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US decided to dictate the rules of the Black Sea

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US decided to dictate the rules of the Black SeaDuring the start of the NATO and Ukraine Sea Breeze exercises, the commander of the 6th fleet US Navy Vice Admiral James Foggo has promised to use the "right to free shipping" for the permanent presence of the US Navy in the Black Sea. In addition, the United States called for the development of a code of conduct for military sailors in the Black Sea, as well as the modernization of the Ukrainian Navy.


The US Navy "is trying to maintain an almost permanent presence in the Black Sea," said on the eve of the commander of the US Navy's 6 fleet, James Foggo. Vice Admiral Foggo referred to the rule of freedom of navigation in international waters.

The statement by the commander of the 6 fleet was timed to coincide with the NATO-based Sea Breeze 31 exercises that began on August 2015. In these multinational exercises, taking place in Ukraine and in the waters of the Black Sea, the American missile destroyer Donald Cook, the main weapons which are cruise missiles "Tomahawk", having a range of up to 2,5 thousand. Km and capable of carrying nuclear warheads.

Vice Admiral Foggo stressed: this time, Sea Breeze’s teachings (in which, apart from the US and NATO allies, Ukraine, Moldova and Sweden are taking part), are held in a “somewhat more tense geopolitical situation” due to the conflict in Ukraine and the deterioration of relations with Russia.

The commander of the 6 fleet also said: the command of the US Navy believes that naval sailors from different countries could endorse for the Black Sea the same general code of conduct that operates in the Pacific Ocean. “Last year, the countries of the Pacific region adopted the“ Code of Conduct for Unplanned Contacts at Sea ”- a kind of“ gentlemen’s agreement ”that increased security and strengthened mutual trust between military fleets,” Foggo said.

The United States designated the military presence in the Black Sea, not only through demonstration destroyer near the coast of the Crimea. As the correspondent of the newspaper LOOK, on ​​Thursday in the Georgian port of Batumi offers equipped American-based item.

"They do not care at all"


The commander of the Black Sea Fleet in 1998 – 2002, and now the head of the State Duma Defense Committee, Admiral Vladimir Komoyedov noted in the comment to the VIEW newspaper: when the operational connection BLEKSIFOR was created, which included all the Black Sea countries, there was neither North America nor other non-Black Sea countries ". The US statement on the desire for a permanent presence in the Black Sea, he called the "lunge of America, which had derailed, stood on the wing and flew." “They don't care about everything related to international rules that have been established without them,” the source said.

Speaking about the opening of a US-based home base in Batumi, Komoyedov noted: “The Georgians, of course, are“ well done ”. More there and the Americans were admitted. I understand that they definitely want to break completely. ”

It remains for Russia to “only strengthen its positions in all areas on the Black Sea,” emphasized Admiral Komoyedov. In his opinion, this is a question of the present, not of the future, as they were engaged in, even when Crimea was not part of Russia, in Novorossiysk, for example, they built a basing point for new ships that are being built in Kaliningrad and St. Petersburg specifically for Black Sea Fleet. “So we will not abandon this matter, we will bring it to mind,” Komoyedov stressed. He recalled that with the entry of the Crimea into Russia, the bays returned, adapted for the basing of ships of all classes - first of all, in Sevastopol. “There are other ports, naval bases, the same Theodosius and others. Therefore, there will be enough funds to accept new ships and submarines, ”the parliamentarian noted and said:“ The US will always be visiting the Black Sea, and we will be at home - these are two big differences. ”

The strongest "breeze"


In addition, the commander of 6, the American fleet, announcing his meeting with Prime Minister of Ukraine Arseniy Yatsenyuk, said that Kiev needs to modernize its naval forces - "perhaps it is about adding new warships, as far as their budget allows" . We note that Yatsenyuk, speaking at the opening of the exercises Sea Breeze 2015, announced: the naval forces of Ukraine will return to the Crimea.


How the United States controls the entire planet

The current "Sea Breeze" - the most ambitious for all history these NATO exercises. Up to 2,5 thousand military servicemen take part in them (of which 1 thousand represent the US Army). In addition to the destroyer Donald Cook, the Pentagon sent four more warships, as well as two submarines, 6 airplanes and helicopters, and 40 wheeled vehicles. The host country, the Ukrainian army, deployed 1 thousand soldiers, nine Navy ships, a dozen border patrol boats, 8 airplanes and helicopters, and up to 50 wheeled vehicles.

“Maneuvering areas are the water area of ​​the Black Sea, polygons of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, military airfields“ Shkolny ”(Odessa),“ Kulbakino ”(Nikolaev),“ Chernobaevka ”(Kherson), landing sites of the Tendrovsky Spit (Ochakov) and Pervomaisky Island, international airport "Odessa", Odessa Sea Trade Port, Sea Trade Port "Yuzhny", the military port of Ochakov (Mykolaiv region) ", - said the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.

Cook expedition

The fourth-generation rocket destroyer Donald Cook, equipped with the Aegis combat control system, is a frequent visitor to the Black Sea. 8 of April of last year, the Pentagon said that the ship will be sent to this area "as part of a demonstration of support for Eastern European allies, concerned about the strengthening of Russian troops along the border between Russia and Ukraine."

The spectacular demonstration failed - April 12 2014, the Su-24 Russian Air Force overflew the American destroyer at a distance of about 1 km and at an altitude of about 160 meters above sea level. Reports on this “counterdemonstration” claimed that the Russian plane used the Khibiny electronic warfare complex (KREB), as a result of which the American ship was forcibly turned off the radar, combat control circuits, data transmission systems. After the Aegis system was turned off, “Su-24 simulated a rocket attack on a blinded and deafened ship, then another and another — only 12 times,” the Rossiyskaya Gazeta reported. The US military did not confirm these reports (limiting itself to the words that the Russian pilot "used standard intimidation"), but, be that as it may, Donald Cook retired to the Romanian port of Constanta.

In April of the same year, this destroyer participated in exercises joint with the Turkish Navy, and in January 2015 of the year - in joint maneuvers with the flagship of the Ukrainian fleet, the Hetman Sagaidachny frigate.

“Normal Presence”


The destroyers of missile control (destroyers of missile-defense systems) of the class “Arly Burk”, to which Donald Cook belongs, replace each other in the Black Sea with enviable regularity. In October 2014, the destroyer Cole entered the same Romanian Constanza, at the same time this port was visited by the command ship 6 of the fleet Mount Whitney. Less than a month later, the American destroyer Ross arrived in the Black Sea to “improve combat readiness” of the Romanian fleet.

At the end of June of this year, the Laboon URO destroyer, sent to the Black Sea to "promote peace and stability in the region", took part in joint exercises with the Roman Navy corvette "Eustatiou Sebastian". The same ship also entered the Georgian port of Batumi - as France-Presse reported, “in order to demonstrate support for Georgia — a candidate member of NATO”; the ship held a joint training with the coast guard of Georgia. In July, Laboon was replaced by the destroyer Porter, who began his “tour” of the Black Sea from entering the Bulgarian port of Varna. And finally, admonishing Donald Cook, Admiral James Foggo said: "We are striving to make our presence in the region normal."

It is obvious that before the reunification of Crimea with Russia, the Pentagon considered Sevastopol as one of the key points of the “normal presence” of the USA in the region. Recall that in August 2008, the news of the arrival on the Sevastopol raid of the command ship 6 fleet Mount Whitney provoked mass protests. Later, the ship still entered the port, but the team was unable to reach the city because of the protesters. Note that the US ambassador in Kiev Jeffrey Payet, speaking at the opening ceremony of Sea Breeze 2015 in Odessa, called this city, where the Ukrainian Navy is now based, "the temporary home of the Ukrainian fleet." The head of the diplomatic mission once again emphasized that Washington considers the annexation of Crimea to Russia as an act of “illegal military annexation.”

Note that the naval exercises Sea Breeze (from 1997 held in the framework of bilateral cooperation between NATO and Ukraine) caused mass protests in Nikolayev and Odessa regions, often accompanied by clashes. Double maneuvers were disrupted, in particular, because of the resistance of local authorities.

“We can control both the basin and the straits of the Black Sea”


The USA’s desire to have a permanent presence in the Black Sea contradicts the international agreement - the Montreux Convention of 1936 on the status of the Black Sea Straits, which restricts the presence of non-Black Sea warships, determines the class of these ships, and so on, military expert, editor-in-chief of Arsenal magazine told the VZGLYAD newspaper. Fatherland "Victor Murakhovsky. He noted that “the revision of this convention is impossible. Therefore, the United States must comply with it fully and send its ships to the Black Sea on a rotational basis. ”

The expert explained that the item was created in the Batumi-based, rather than a military base. These berths are equipped with a supply of ships with fuel, water and other supplies.

At the same time, it must be recognized that most of the countries that enter the Black Sea marine basin are members of NATO: Bulgaria, Romania, Turkey. “Therefore, in a military sense, nothing new has appeared for us. On the contrary, recently we have gained fairly strong positions there due to the fact that we have now created an interspecific self-sufficient group of troops on the Crimean peninsula, ”the source said. - Now we are our aviation from Crimea, with anti-ship missile systems we can actually control both the Black Sea straits and the Black Sea basin. ”

Thus, Russia can quite well oppose the Americans on the Black Sea, Murakhovsky is sure: “The United States cannot keep a permanent large grouping on the Black Sea, but only single ships. We can well resist such ships, ”the interlocutor emphasized. He admitted that the United States could, of course, violate the Montreux Convention, but “even in this case we can violate, for example, block the Black Sea straits,” the expert concluded.
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  1. Arh
    Arh 5 September 2015 05: 18 New
    +3
    They forgot to ask us)))), but we recall if there are bulk and prolizovannye koraBlya systems))))))) !!!!
  2. Barakuda
    Barakuda 5 September 2015 05: 27 New
    +2
    Is this an article or a joke? Well, the Turks would be asked, I would understand. To whom the order of Nakhimov should be driven into the chest with a nail?
  3. FREGATENKAPITAN
    FREGATENKAPITAN 5 September 2015 05: 29 New
    +10
    Well ....... one submarine missile cruiser on a permanent database off the coast of the USA ...) I remind you -ter.water -12 miles ...... about 20 km from the Statue of Liberty), demonstratively showing the periscope, will cool quickly heads of the Pentagon's hot heads ......... This has already passed ..... and the Caribbean crisis, and an order similar to Andropov in response to the deployment of the Pershing in Europe, deploying boats off the coast of civilians ....... Stupid bravado ... The era of the 90s has passed, nothing will pass with impunity!
    1. 222222
      222222 5 September 2015 08: 24 New
      +2
      FREGATENCAPTAIN (1) SU Today, 05:29 AM
      Well ....... one submarine missile cruiser on a permanent database off the coast of the USA .. "
      .. I need a demonstration .. off the coast of the United States .. and active talk about the deployment of the RF Armed Forces in Cuba and Latin America ..
      1. Phantom Revolution
        Phantom Revolution 5 September 2015 09: 03 New
        0
        Quote: 222222
        .. I need a demonstration .. off the coast of the United States .. and active talk about the deployment of the RF Armed Forces in Cuba and Latin America ..

        It’s superfluous in Cuba, but in Venezuela or Argentina, that’s it.
      2. Phantom Revolution
        Phantom Revolution 5 September 2015 09: 03 New
        +1
        Quote: 222222
        .. I need a demonstration .. off the coast of the United States .. and active talk about the deployment of the RF Armed Forces in Cuba and Latin America ..

        In Cuba, it’s redundant, but in Venezuela or Argentina, that’s it.
        1. shasherin.pavel
          shasherin.pavel 5 September 2015 10: 39 New
          0
          Quote: Phantom Revolution
          In Cuba, it’s redundant, but in Venezuela or Argentina, that’s it.

          Go to Antarctica, although you can’t ... it is the continent of the world. Well then, offer the Falklands.
      3. Militia
        Militia 5 September 2015 14: 57 New
        +1
        We need a demonstration .. off the coast of the United States .. and active talk about the deployment of contingents of the Russian Armed Forces in Cuba and Latin America ..

        No talk. Only adequate action. The strong only understands the position of superior strength. If the question is raised about the base in Poti, then an adequate answer is our base in Cuba. If the question is asked about the base in Odessa, then an adequate answer is our base in Venezuela, etc. You don’t have to go far for an example. In October 1962, after the Soviet Union deployed military units and weapons, including nuclear missiles, in Cuba, the Americans very quickly realized what they sewed in their ass was not fun. And they quickly made a rollback movement in the cancer pose.


        © Calend.ru
    2. Dryuya2
      Dryuya2 5 September 2015 09: 52 New
      0
      Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
      Well ....... one submarine missile cruiser on a permanent database off the coast of the USA ...)

      winked
      The Pentagon suspected the research ship of the Russian Federation "Yantar" in the surveillance of US nuclear submarines
      US reconnaissance ships, planes and satellites closely monitor the movement of the Russian research ship Amber, which cruised near the US naval base Kings Bay (Georgia) with nuclear submarines. According to the Pentagon, the ship can study the routes of American submarines, reports The Washington Free Beacon. The Pentagon is concerned about the appearance of Amber, Fox News writes.
      .....
      Another source told Fox News that the Pentagon is also tracking another Russian research vessel in international waters. When asked whether such US spy ships are located off the coast of Russia, a senior official said: “Of course, what do you think all these“ oceanographic vessels ”are doing? Are they studying whales?”
      completely here - http://www.newsru.com/world/04sep2015/usa.html
  4. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 5 September 2015 05: 29 New
    +10
    There is nothing for the United States to do in the Black Sea and there is nothing to come up with here.
    Let them dictate their will in the Hudson pool.
  5. Lenin
    Lenin 5 September 2015 05: 35 New
    +7
    It’s time for us to conduct exercises in Cuba.
    1. Fedor Bolts
      Fedor Bolts 5 September 2015 05: 46 New
      +10
      With our surface fleet, only a tyulk in the Caspian Sea is frightening. It has long lagged behind the Americans. Only underwater and hold on.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 5 September 2015 06: 28 New
        +15
        Quote: Fedor Bolts
        With our surface fleet, only a tyulk in the Caspian Sea is frightening. It has long lagged behind the Americans. Only underwater and hold on.

        for truth you get minuses ... laughing and apparently me too! lolthere apparently are some idiots who consider our "surface" equal to "yusovsky"! and they don’t care that 62 ships built in 2013 - the number of American “Berks” exceeds the number of destroyers under the flags of all other countries of the world combined! the main thing is cheers! fool
        1. evil partisan
          evil partisan 5 September 2015 07: 08 New
          0
          Quote: Andrew Y.
          the number of American "Berks" exceeds the number of destroyers under the flags of all other countries of the world combined!

          Comrade Katz!wink Do you offer to give up? what
          1. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 5 September 2015 07: 28 New
            +8
            Quote: wicked partisan
            Quote: Andrew Y.
            the number of American "Berks" exceeds the number of destroyers under the flags of all other countries of the world combined!

            Comrade Katz!wink Do you offer to give up? what

            Monya, you forgot about the submarine fleet, we have it! yes
            1. evil partisan
              evil partisan 5 September 2015 07: 32 New
              0
              Quote: Andrew Y.
              Monya
              sad
              am
              Quote: Andrew Y.
              you forgot for the submarine fleet

              To blame! fool
            2. evil partisan
              evil partisan 5 September 2015 07: 56 New
              +7
              Quote: Andrew Y.
              Monya, you forgot about the submarine fleet

              Izya! hi How do you like this news:

              ARKHANGELSK, September 4, 2015, 20:04 - REGNUM The world's largest nuclear submarine went to the White Sea to take part in military exercises. On Friday, September 4, reports the portal flot.com. Strategic Russian heavy missile submarine cruiser Dmitry Donskoy left for the White Sea from the base in Severodvinsk tonight. The submarine will participate in anti-submarine exercises, in which the small anti-submarine ships Onega and Naryan-Mar take part. The nuclear submarine Dmitry Donskoy is a legacy of former Soviet military power. This is the lead ship of the series, built in the framework of the project 941 "Shark". The boat was laid down on June 30, 1976 at the Sevmash Enterprise and entered service with the Navy in 1981. This is a unique project of Soviet military engineers: in a submarine two submarines are enclosed at once, all systems duplicate each other. The ship provides very comfortable conditions for the crew. On the boat there is a lounge for relaxation, a gym, a swimming pool measuring 4 by 2 meters and a depth of 2 meters, filled with fresh or salt sea water with the possibility of heating, a solarium, a sauna trimmed with oak boards, a "living area". For the construction of "Sharks" on the "Sevmash" was specially erected a new workshop number 55 - the largest indoor boathouse in the world. Since 2002, it has been called "Dmitry Donskoy." Now the submarine is armed with six 533-mm torpedo tubes, 22 torpedoes 53-65K, SET-65, SAET-60M, USET-80 and Vodopad missile torpedoes, 20 Bulava ballistic missiles, as well as 8 anti-aircraft missile Needle complexes. At one time, the NATO military bloc was very afraid of these submarines. According to the classification of the North Atlantic Alliance, they are called "Typhoon." At the moment, in addition to Dmitry Donskoy, there are two more submarines of Project 941 - Severstal and Arkhangelsk. They are currently in reserve with a base in Severodvinsk and, according to available information, are awaiting write-offs. Source: http://regnum.ru/news/polit/1963479.html

              Source: http://politikus.ru/army/57239-vmf-rf-vyvel-na-ucheniya-samuyu-bolshuyu-atomnuyu
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              1. Andrey Yuryevich
                Andrey Yuryevich 5 September 2015 08: 10 New
                +4
                Quote: wicked partisan
                How do you like this news:

                Abramchik! this is awesome news! go tell everyone on Privoz! yes laughing
              2. family tree
                family tree 5 September 2015 08: 44 New
                +4
                Quote: wicked partisan
                At the moment, in addition to Dmitry Donskoy, there are two more submarines of Project 941 - Severstal and Arkhangelsk. They are currently in reserve with a base in Severodvinsk and, according to available information, are awaiting write-offs.

                And there were six sad
                Sholom, homegrown Jews hi
                1. evil partisan
                  evil partisan 5 September 2015 08: 53 New
                  +2
                  Quote: perepilka
                  Sholom, homegrown Jews

                  Hello Jew - Arctic. drinks
                  Quote: perepilka
                  there were six

                  Yeah ... I remember Gazprom was considering the option of remaking them into gas carriers. Then this topic subsided. I read in a magazine about 8 years ago a rationale with calculations. At first glance, everything really looked ...
                  1. Boa kaa
                    Boa kaa 5 September 2015 11: 41 New
                    +6
                    Quote: wicked partisan
                    Gazprom was considering the option of converting them into gas carriers. Then this topic subsided.

                    This is probably due to the fact that Gazprom has not decided for himself in which of the 5 strong buildings of this giant he is going to pump LNG! laughing
                    Quote: wicked partisan
                    At first glance, everything really looked ...

                    "We were born to make a fairy tale come true" ... So what? fellow
                    It remains to be remembered: "One for all, we will not stand for the price!" and a voice from behind: "No change!" lol
              3. Boa kaa
                Boa kaa 5 September 2015 11: 27 New
                +6
                Quote: wicked partisan
                How do you like this news:

                I apologize for interfering in the conversation of such high professionals ... But personally, she shows me a lot!
                Somehow:
                1. To develop the PLZ 2 (!) MPKashek (!) In the sea kicked out strategic * shed *! (because * a fence *, because of the huge reflection area of ​​the g / a signal like 629A, etc., it’s difficult to name it). Here, either Donskoy’s solution of his tasks (for example, practicing a b / training course, maybe elements of a new KSBU system) and then * a little thing * he was hung up on his tail.
                Or there’s no one else to send (duty, repair, transfer of the building, preparation for going around the corner) ... But Donskoy still burns his core ...
                2. Maybe MPKashki simply cleaned the exit from the base by conducting a control search of the adversary’s submarine before leaving * stand *, which is to be fired at Kura.
                3. Maybe, to help the brothers * anti-water guides * close the task, they sent the most-most * inconspicuous * for active GAS submarine cruiser? So much for the prize of the Navy Group of Companies on the search for nuclear submarines. All the same * dime * to the piggy bank of glorious deeds of the SF!
                You can still argue, but I think this is enough.
                And our * scribblers * are trying to make a sensation out of it ...
                I understand that they would write: the most low-noise submarine of the Northern Fleet went into the sea, in search of which the NATO PIC in the Atlantic was bombing all its submarines, but they could not find the Russian submarine, although they burned up the annual fuel supply released to them for the entire NATO submarine submarine.
                But this once happened during the Union!
                Yours faithfully, hi
                1. far
                  far 5 September 2015 11: 38 New
                  -4
                  Dear I served in Long Aviation, we also lacked all sorts of figures. SIMPLY I REMEMBER 08.08.08. The regiment commander went to the parade ground and announced that our fraternal regiment had been fighting for a day, had already lost one side, now it was our turn, we were taught, fed, and cooked for this — and then I was convinced who is who.
                  1. ancient
                    ancient 5 September 2015 12: 16 New
                    +6
                    Quote: far
                    The regiment commander went to the parade ground and announced that our fraternal regiment had been fighting for a day, had already lost one side, now it was our turn, we were taught, fed, and cooked for this — and then I was convinced who is who.



                    Well, well, in more detail ... it's "hde" such .. "rallies" are held on the occasion of ... to fight us or ..... "wait out"? wassat
                    1. far
                      far 5 September 2015 12: 34 New
                      -3
                      It was not a rally. The statement of the combat mission is that during the night we convert the sides to one and a half-ton bombs, at 5-00 the beginning of the preflight, at 9-00 we fly off. If you are far from this then you should not be clever. It was in Vozdvizhenka, Primorsky Krai, 444 TBAP, who knows, he will understand.
                      1. ancient
                        ancient 5 September 2015 13: 10 New
                        +5
                        Quote: far
                        It wasn’t a rally


                        I hope I quoted your previous comment correctly, wink - ".... The regiment commander went to the parade ground and announced" lol

                        As far as I know ... the commander conducts the statement of the TASK in a class specially equipped for these events, with recording on a tape recorder wink

                        Quote: far
                        what a night we are converting the sides under one and a half-ton bombs,


                        In fact, the re-equipment is to "throw off" the BD-45F and stick in their place either KD-3-22R or KD-4-105A, and not .... "re-equipment for the lorry" wassat
                        What .. again the "daughter of a retired captain"? wink
                      2. ancient
                        ancient 5 September 2015 13: 11 New
                        +5
                        Quote: ancient
                        What .. again the "daughter of a retired captain"?


                        Quote: far
                        at 5-00 the beginning of the preflight, at 9-00 we fly away


                        So what? Typical pre-flight, which includes BC suspension and refueling and "NK exhibition" with verification of all other AO, RTO systems. request
                        And then you ... where personally .. fly away? belay

                        And where were you going to fly from Primorye, when the question was already decided that you all ... fell under the "ReHorming". wink
                        "Wait" I’ll call Alexander Petrovich and take an interest ..... "namesake, well report," how are you there ... "rallies-statements of the BZ" on the parade ground .... held "? wink

                        Quote: far
                        If you are far from this then you should not be clever.


                        Well, I hope, according to my answers, you could understand that this phrase is yours ... such .. "stupidity", that ... well, once you get into the "puddle" further, let's wink
                        And, by the way, I didn’t “see” something and .. didn’t hear “about” the enormous advantages in connection with the “relocation to the Guards”, and about launches from D-420 km? belay

                        Waiting with soldier
                      3. far
                        far 5 September 2015 13: 29 New
                        -3
                        IF YOU HAVE ATTENDED A DAY AT LEAST 1 DAY, YOU SHOULD KNOW WHAT YOUR PRE-PREPARATION PREPARES FOR YOURSELF, SUMMER 3 HOURS, WINTER FOR ONE MORE. JUDGING AT YOUR STATEMENT - if YOU SERVED IN A HOT SHOP - FORMER POLITICAL DEPARTMENT.
                      4. ancient
                        ancient 5 September 2015 13: 57 New
                        +1
                        Quote: far
                        SUMMER 3 HOURS, WINTER FOR AN HOUR MORE.


                        Yeah .. you explain this to children or NK'kashnikam ... so how much time does it take to the NK-45 exhibition in the .. "double gyrocompassing" mode? wink

                        And where does your "fan attack" come in? I wrote that you told such a “terrible thing” ... at 5.00:9.00 we started, and at XNUMX:XNUMX we fly wassat (Iceman ... something) lol what is a TYPICAL PREFERRED request

                        And I realized ..... they felt that they had “gotten into” the wrong topic and were trying to .. hand over back? .. So I gave you a lot of chances, and now ... excuse me ... I will carry a face on the table ... until. ..short to the stop.

                        Well, what can I say about you, with 99% certainty ... some junior mechanic in the AB group, who was trusted as much as possible “unpacking the bomb, so that the“ woods would not be knocked down ”, well, open the zinc with fuses .. but not more ..... disassemble and clean the cannon, and of course ..... "trolley with BK" using .... "animal steam" to push under the plane " wassat
                  2. far
                    far 5 September 2015 13: 27 New
                    -3
                    http://ok.ru/profile/357744328715/pphotos/770778629643 ПОСМОТРИ ССЫЛКУ И убедишься что я не дочь офицера
                  3. ancient
                    ancient 5 September 2015 14: 00 New
                    +4
                    Quote: far
                    SEE THE LINK And make sure I'm not the daughter of an officer


                    He looked and what? .. Captain ...., "and on the chest of his mighty .... jubilee medals hang" .. not even for years of service ..... Komsomol? wassat
                    Akromya of the Guards badge didn’t see anything .. he hid the class, the same university request
                2. far
                  far 5 September 2015 13: 48 New
                  -5
                  You call anyone you want, at least Alexander Pavlovich, at least Nicholas II, at least the GDP - if you served in the regiment for at least 1 day you would understand (and not in the hot shop - the former political department) there are more like you there than under the Union.
                3. ancient
                  ancient 5 September 2015 14: 27 New
                  +4
                  Quote: far
                  if you served in the regiment for at least 1 day, you would understand (and not in the hot shop — the former political department) there are more people like you than under the Union.


                  So .. "servant" .. you don’t "jump", but give aviation equipment .... or did you only see the plane from the headquarters or the one .. who was at the checkpoint before entering instead of the monument? wassat
                4. far
                  far 5 September 2015 15: 25 New
                  -2
                  I am the Senior Technician of the RAV group Androsenko Sergey Viktorovich, my group leader is Major Baygot Mikhail Viktorovich. This is enough or not.
                5. ancient
                  ancient 5 September 2015 16: 14 New
                  +5
                  Quote: far
                  Senior Technician, RAV Group


                  Maybe all the same "groups MAINTENANCE R and AB " wink

                  Why is there such incompetence in any matter? Or just on .. "cage" stood while in ... "secretariat" met ?.
                  In technology, the full 0 is the weight of the missiles, you don’t know the weight of the warheads, you don’t know the holders of the launch range, you don’t know, I still haven’t reached the fuses, front and rear ballast, alcohol circuits, etc. etc. you don’t know anything .. absolutely ... but ..... "flew" to fight wassat
                6. Aleksandr1959
                  Aleksandr1959 5 September 2015 16: 47 New
                  +4
                  alcohol circuits
                  wassat
                  The clean one was poured into a beam under the X-22 in a heavy load, if memory serves, then 6 liters. And to merge it was not so simple. "Massandra" (water-alcohol mixture) was poured into the air conditioning system (but there you will pour honeycomb fillers and horseradish, so they didn’t really fill it up) Again, if I remember, then 120 liters. 40 liters seasoned in the "Lilac" .... which was never included. It was a reserve of the senior technician of the plane (ship).
                7. ancient
                  ancient 5 September 2015 17: 23 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Aleksandr1959
                  The clean one was poured into a beam under the X-22 in a heavy load, if memory serves, then 6 liters.


                  Sasha, do not tell all the secrets wink And it was possible to merge from the beam, but only the gunsmiths could do this with the help of a “cunning screwdriver” through the “syrtic circuit”, but ... this “rattlesnake” (since it was already mixed with the inhibitor) could be used only because firstly, the smell ... even a gas mask did not save, secondly, he himself saw how they shed it on concrete and that .. started .. "melt" wassat
                  Well, I forgot about the front tank of the "commander" on the windshields.
                  And the most yummy it was in the "stern" (you write everything correctly - "Sirenevskaya").
                  On the spare one, the “pravak” immediately ... got the stepladder and .. “dived”).
                  Well, on the base there yes it’s NZ star.teha ... the engineer of the nuclear power plant also visited him with a .. "bow" resorted, because. the old tech had ... always soldier
                8. Aleksandr1959
                  Aleksandr1959 5 September 2015 17: 39 New
                  +4
                  He merged from the beam. One undocked the fitting on the tank and blew all the fool, the other, lying on the wings of a closed cargo loader. set up the pan, clicking on the "boobs".
                  By the way, the seconded guys from Poltava, with a hangover, drank this mixture with us at a time ... when the "massandra" was not at hand.
                  As for the "Lilac", there is the main thing, it was necessary to reset the boost first ... and then five seconds and 40 liters spread out on the concrete. I saw once such a picture wassat
                  By the way, with the "Lilac" it was possible to merge and open the hatch on the keel and undock the pipeline, respectively substituting the pallet and container. wassat I had to “teach” a couple of times one too “smart” person close to the bosses. He still didn’t understand where it happened twice on 40 liters ... "I probably blew it out during the flight" wassat Representatives of KAPO ... (after low tide they 3l) confirmed this version.
                  As for the air conditioning system. So at first they “refueled” for each departure, then a change was made to the instruction manual. Refuel if you were planning a flight to supersonic or low altitude. ... Well, we asked the leading engineers to include one of these modes in the flight task ... because they themselves "fed" us. As for where and how clean it was on the Su-25T, I’m silent for a while wassat
          2. Boa kaa
            Boa kaa 5 September 2015 17: 04 New
            +6
            Quote: far
            I am a Senior Technician at RAV Group

            And where are you, my dear friend, from BAO flew something ??? laughing
            Do not touch Seryoga, “you are a stupid person”! He will make a mockery of you in two counts, an airdrome rat! yes
            Alexander 2, hello! Glad you came out of the peak and appeared again on the radio horizon! Boa. drinks
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          4. iouris
            iouris 5 September 2015 21: 42 New
            0
            And if the parachute hadn’t opened, then one could also see what was inside her ...
            Nonsense is all this, extreme, and faces, like, like normal people.
  6. far
    far 5 September 2015 17: 02 New
    0
    DB -45F is not planned according to plan. We have either 2 missiles with a 45K database, the second bombing flight is either FAB-500TS, or OFAB-250.
  7. ancient
    ancient 5 September 2015 17: 29 New
    +3
    Quote: far
    DB -45F is not planned according to plan


    When you write like this, you need to put the planned word in quotation marks, because people may not understand the difference between Planning Flight Table and Planning Table No. 1 wink

    Moreover, then depending on the load options (target range) you already have either KD-3-22 (with the middle row or not or with APP-22 instead of the 3rd row) or KD-4-105.
    Then what kind of refurbishment were you talking about? belay Discard some cassettes and stick others is this conversion? belay
  8. Aleksandr1959
    Aleksandr1959 5 September 2015 17: 43 New
    +1
    Alexander, you still ask, how does a Planned Flight Table differ from an unscheduled booze? wassat
  9. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 5 September 2015 19: 06 New
    +3
    As far as I know ... the commander conducts the statement of the TASK in a class specially equipped for these events, with recording on a tape recorder
    our "pre-flight task setting" was done like that! yesin the presence of pilots, operators RSP, RSBN, "altimeter", of course, tablets
    stov, and on-duty shift technicians radar at the KDP, regiment Colonel Stadnik personally! something like that ... ( wink Ancient-ours with a brush!)
  • evil partisan
    evil partisan 5 September 2015 12: 14 New
    -1
    Quote: BoA KAA
    I apologize for interfering in the conversation of such high professionals ...

    Do not complex, Colleague winked ! Come on let's fellow .
  • ancient
    ancient 5 September 2015 12: 18 New
    +2
    Quote: BoA KAA
    I apologize for interfering in the conversation of such high professionals ...


    Again forgot the "high professionals" in the "quotation marks"? lol drinks

    "They" now .... such .. "highly professional .. will tell" that wassat
    1. Eternal Watch
      Eternal Watch 5 September 2015 14: 04 New
      +2
      Quote: ancient
      "They" now .... such .. "highly professional .. will tell" that

      after three weeks of absence, he switched on Russia-24 and immediately the session on the Far East, oh..p..r..s..t .., zombie clowns will tell SUCH ..... belay
      Hello Alexander! drinks
      1. ancient
        ancient 5 September 2015 14: 33 New
        +4
        Quote: Eternal Watch
        Hello Alexander!


        Hello, friend! Yes, I’m the same gnemic .. I was absent, but here it turns out ... about which .. "Dalniki" is .. and they start up "something" with 420 km wassat and something .. "convert" under 1.5 ki. and the statement of the BZ is carried out on the parade ground and under .. general vote (whether to set the task or not) wassat
        And the Tu-95MS and Tu-160 in orderly rows (or maybe all the same columns) destroy ships of a potential enemy in the Black Sea.
        And especially for enth affairs 1-nu Tu = 160-t was converted, which carries as many as 250 "bonmbochek" wassat

        Correctly said, dear Professor, you need to go to the site after a 2-week start of classes ... "schoolchildren", then it will be more difficult for them to get out with their "opuses" wassat

        How is rest then? drinks
        1. Eternal Watch
          Eternal Watch 5 September 2015 14: 53 New
          +3
          Quote: ancient
          How is rest then?

          Class!!

          here in the bayonet go on yusovskih infantry, and you're talking about aviation ....
          and then suddenly "Pasha G" appears, which the battalions capture everything .... pi ... pi ... pi ...
          In a word, I'm glad to see you !!! drinks
          business trip report will be complete, too wink
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  • shasherin.pavel
    shasherin.pavel 5 September 2015 10: 55 New
    +1
    Quote: Andrew Y.
    you forgot about the submarine fleet,

    everything under water? Grinya, do you really think that a bindyuzhnik can carry goods from Deribas to Ankara? Maybe you forgot, but the pans are not a ship, they don’t go under water. If you want to land paratroopers on a submarine, they will also be drowned before you bring them to the shore. "
  • NOMADE
    NOMADE 5 September 2015 07: 46 New
    +1
    bgg Hello everyone!
    PS, we do not like to face the truth ... (
    I put both pluses.
  • shasherin.pavel
    shasherin.pavel 5 September 2015 10: 49 New
    +1
    Then we need to remind Andrei Yuryevich that during the passage of the polar convoys, when on the most dangerous section of the route from Bear Island, Soviet escorts consisting of destroyers lost “traders” less than under the escort of the heavy ships of Great Britain and the United States. Not in the amount of strength but in the ability to cope with the task. When Great Britain handed over the Royal Severin battleship to the USSR, all Western newspapers wrote that before the war ended the Russians could not master the battleship. When the battleship left the home base three weeks later, all the English newspapers wrote in a choke that "the Russians had gathered all the engineers of the Soviet Union for the battleship."
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 5 September 2015 12: 51 New
      +2
      Quote: shasherin.pavel
      When Great Britain handed over the Royal Severin battleship to the USSR, all Western newspapers wrote that before the war ended the Russians could not master the battleship. When did the battleship come out in three weeks

      why not master the dreadnought of 1916, which has not undergone any major modernization, except for the replacement of artillery, TA and deck reinforcement by 5cm. One trip to Scapa Flow and one convoy JW-59, with the exchange of "Kite" for 2 U-Boot. Kaley Lange (U-711) even attacked Arkhangelsk, but unsuccessfully. Actually, from this moment until the cut in England in 1949, the combat biography of the Sovereign - Archangel and ended. He did not go through any docking or repairs. But even in another case - all the engineers from all over the Union would hardly be needed.
  • Kot58
    Kot58 5 September 2015 05: 49 New
    +2
    Our politicians only vote “we can do it, we can do it.” Isn’t it time to do it already !!!
  • Zheka Krasnoyarsk
    Zheka Krasnoyarsk 5 September 2015 05: 56 New
    +21
    Note that the US ambassador to Kiev, Jeffrey Payet, speaking at the opening ceremony of Sea Breeze 2015 in Odessa, called this city, where the Ukrainian Navy is now based, "the temporary home of the Ukrainian fleet."

    Totally agree Odessa, Nikolaev and in general the entire coast should be returned to RUSSIA !!!
  • afdjhbn67
    afdjhbn67 5 September 2015 06: 00 New
    +1
    And what kind of panic is on the air? The Black Sea is not an inland Russian body of water, what hysteria is that? we have both "Balls" and "Khibiny", and they have a donald bunch .. laughing
  • silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 5 September 2015 06: 08 New
    +5
    The next arrival of the American "gopnik" on international law ... the criminals are always hindered by laws ...
  • s.melioxin
    s.melioxin 5 September 2015 06: 23 New
    +11
    USA on the Black Sea will always be away, and we will be at home
    You can’t say more precisely. And houses and walls help and the water is warmer, and the storm is not a storm. If you are a fighter, then for every attack, there is a counterattack. We don’t need someone else’s, but we won’t give YOURSELF either. Russians since 1917 have argued that blacks are also people. But Obama came and ruined everything.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 5 September 2015 06: 30 New
      +7
      Well, why put such stupid demotivators? MiG-35 ... on the Black Sea .. ugh! children...
      1. s.melioxin
        s.melioxin 5 September 2015 07: 02 New
        +4
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        Well, why put such stupid demotivators? MiG-35 ... on the Black Sea .. ugh! children...
        Respected! Do not find fault with the picture, but in the sense of the word. Good luck! Before you think badly - think good.
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  • duschman80-81
    duschman80-81 5 September 2015 06: 34 New
    +5
    It is necessary to demand the strict implementation of international laws on the Black Sea, to stop licking the lumbar department to "our partners", as is the case with the Mistrals. Why does someone manage the money of Russians - taxpayers, and makes all kinds of discounts for our money? It’s better to direct this money to orphanages and cadet corps to educate those people who will love their MOTHERLAND until the end of their days and know that she needs everything to fight for and protect for her as her mother.
    1. kuz363
      kuz363 5 September 2015 07: 03 New
      +1
      US does not violate international agreements on the Black Sea
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 5 September 2015 11: 59 New
        +5
        Quote: kuz363
        US does not violate international agreements on the Black Sea
        But only until the tonnage and terms of the simultaneous stay of their ships in the World Cup are exceeded. (Conventia Montreux, 1936)
        Me more touched another infa:
        In addition to the destroyer Donald Cook, the Pentagon detached four more warships, as well as two submarines, 6 aircraft and helicopters and 40 units of wheeled vehicles.
        The USA does not have diesel submarines; they have not yet built submarines. It turns out that the submarine will tidy up? But the entry of nuclear boats into the Black Sea is prohibited.
        Maybe these * fish * are located in the eastern Mediterranean and work out electronic launches from there according to NK and Av?
        But then * scribblers * again fell ... in the wrong place.
        1. Das Boot
          Das Boot 5 September 2015 12: 58 New
          +2
          Quote: BoA KAA
          The USA does not have diesel submarines; they have not yet built submarines. It turns out that the submarine will tidy up?

          well, rented from the Swedes Gotland, as it was in 2005 laughing
  • Bayonet
    Bayonet 5 September 2015 06: 39 New
    +14
    I started reading, everything seems to be right, but how I got to the Su-24 with the Khibiny (how much can you fool this nonsense - there was never a Su-24 Khibin am ) - I realized they started for health, and finished for peace! There were still not enough diapers. negative
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 5 September 2015 19: 34 New
      0
      Quote: Bayonet
      (how much can you fool this nonsense - there has never been a Su-24 Khibin

      prove it to the Chelyabinsk board, otherwise he doesn’t know that he was hung up ...
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 5 September 2015 20: 03 New
        +3
        Quote: Bayonet
        there was never a Su-24 "Khibin
        Do you see the power of information warfare? One article in zhp ("... yellow press ..." E. Letov) clouds the brains of active Russian youth. By the way, as there is no Khibin on the Su-24, there is Khibiny , here’s a photo document. The truth is this is a mock-up and no one really bothers that the Khibiny’s work not to suppress, but to reflect the wave. And this is all the same, the main thing is that our youth truly believe that 1 Su-24 neutralizes one American destroyer.
        1. Das Boot
          Das Boot 5 September 2015 20: 45 New
          +3
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          most importantly, our youth truly believes that one Su-1 will neutralize one American destroyer.

          curious as well MIKHAN believes because
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          young people
          or simply
          1. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt 5 September 2015 21: 17 New
            -2
            Das Boot, you still did not understand the essence of our doctrine ..? It doesn’t matter how many aircraft carriers they have, we will defeat them in spirit, because a pederast cannot defeat a member of United Russia in a fair and honest battle, the gut is thin and all that .By the way, when this singer came to Samara with his "VIA", I listened live to their cool songs. And "forward and up!" it’s generally beyond good and art (because it sounded so natural).
            1. Das Boot
              Das Boot 5 September 2015 21: 50 New
              +4
              Quote: Thunderbolt
              we will defeat their spirit

              undoubtedly. Are they still wearing footcloths?
              Quote: Thunderbolt
              No matter how many aircraft carriers they have
              of course. In principle, finally, it doesn’t matter. You have to lie on the couch and believe. Well, and with the "spirit", respectively.
              Quote: Thunderbolt
              this singer came to Samara with his "VIA", then I listened live to their cool songs.

              slightly weighted chanson? These dumbasses would at least take guitar lessons.
              Quote: Thunderbolt
              generally beyond good and art

              it's like LSD, eh? B / \ I, man, the sixties are already almost 50 years old, how have they passed.

              And by the way, if "the essence of our doctrine" is stupid Shi-opatziotism, then yes, I’m not going to delve into it.
              1. Thunderbolt
                Thunderbolt 5 September 2015 22: 22 New
                -1
                Quote: Das Boot
                slightly weighted chanson?
                who knows, I like their musical range, and the lyrics are filled with a kind of matrix input. If you are not interested, then you or you will never hear these songs or all in vain. As a word, drove through. Or flew by winked ? P.S. And which VIA do you like?
                1. Thunderbolt
                  Thunderbolt 5 September 2015 22: 37 New
                  0
                  Quote: Das Boot
                  And by the way, if "the essence of our doctrine" is stupid Shi-opatziotism, then yes, I’m not going to delve into it.
                  Are you liable for military service? Do you have a reminder on alarm actions? You probably like western rock bands, then I feel sorry for you ... They turned on and irradiated our youth with your radars. Judging by your avatar, otraimshtaynili you, sir, in full. Well, do not be discouraged, dear friend, we will fight for you soldier )))
                  1. Ruslan67
                    Ruslan67 5 September 2015 22: 57 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Thunderbolt
                    ? You probably like western rock bands, then I feel sorry for you

                    Deepa Dire Straights Queen of Scorpio request I didn’t get it what Or it’s time to put me on the lists belay
  • kuz363
    kuz363 5 September 2015 07: 02 New
    +7
    An expert with a hangover? How can Russia block the Black Sea straits that are in Turkey? And Turkey has a fleet stronger than the Black Sea. Rather, it can be the other way around. Minus to the author
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 5 September 2015 12: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: kuz363
      How can Russia block the Black Sea straits that are in Turkey?
      How how!? Yes, very simple: active MLM. But this is the land, it is a declaration of war.
      And then, Russia is a country that respects itself, and constantly requires others to comply with international treaties, for such in peacetime will never go. For this is a gross violation of Mr. Law of the Sea!
      Quote: kuz363
      And Turkey has a fleet stronger than the Black Sea.

      Quantity does not mean quality. Yes, and aviation can not be written off. And of course, our SLCMs with their ranges ...
      So, it’s not a fact that in terms of combat potential the Turks are stronger than us in the Black Sea Fleet. Which, in fact, annoys Shtatnikov.
  • Name
    Name 5 September 2015 07: 12 New
    0
    Greetings to all! Well, the "code of conduct" from the United States was predetermined in 2014 and repeated in 2015 ... over "cookie" and "Ross." Let them sing psalms and burden the work of their psychoanalysts.
  • Persistent
    Persistent 5 September 2015 07: 22 New
    -1
    Quote: Arh
    They forgot to ask us)))), but we recall if there are bulk and prolizovannye koraBlya systems))))))) !!!!



    "Cook" first ... The previous lesson didn’t work for him ...
  • EvgNik
    EvgNik 5 September 2015 07: 32 New
    +3
    "" Russia may well oppose the Americans in the Black Sea ""
    It can’t, but it should. Nothing for the Yankees to do in the Black Sea. We, too, can come to the shores of the states and dictate our conditions. In the end, you must have a conscience.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 5 September 2015 12: 24 New
      +5
      Quote: EvgNik
      We, too, can come to the shores of the states and dictate our conditions.

      Oh how! And men don’t know ... (c)
      I don’t want to insult the patriotic feelings of the members of the forum ... but when you knock on the clave, you should think with your head, and not how many likes you cut down with "lulling."
      PS My leader, when the adjuncts "buried", said that the best remedy for patriotic frenzy is statistics and a sober mathematical calculation.
      Particularly * gifted * he proposed to carry out mathematical modeling of the alleged event. After this, manilism and Khrushchenism became much less.
      It seems to me - very practical advice!
    2. Iskander-Khan
      Iskander-Khan 5 September 2015 15: 02 New
      -1
      Where there was a conscience ... there the grass grew And you need to have no conscience but the Yankesov and the earlier the better ..
  • 1536
    1536 5 September 2015 07: 38 New
    +12
    In fact, the Americans can block our Black Sea Fleet from entering the Mediterranean Sea through the Bosporus and Dardanelles. This is precisely what they are seeking: to lock Russia in the Black Sea. International treaties serve the Negro from the White House simply as toilet paper (just like Hitler spat on international law and the will of the peoples).
    It would be interesting to listen to our military experts (non-Ivash, of course) who would analyze the situation and give a forecast for the future, how to keep the Black Sea straits in common use, and not allow the Americans to turn them into their patrimony. Forewarned is forearmed. And then you only hear: "rusty ships", "we have Khibiny", yes, "I ordered it." Can help what the Black Sea Fleet needs, or at least know what to prepare for? The U.S. Navy or ships should not be permanently located in the Black Sea and control the straits. Then the Americans will have to really fight!
    And what are the Ukrainians (or those who live there), as well as the Georgians traitors! As soon as our land wears them!
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 5 September 2015 13: 17 New
      +5
      Quote: 1536
      Americans can block our Black Sea Fleet access to the Mediterranean Sea through the Bosporus and Dardanelles.

      Most likely they will entrust this to their NATO satellites ...
      Quote: 1536
      This is precisely what they are seeking: to lock Russia in the Black Sea.
      To prevent this from happening and 5 OpEsk was created, then a flotilla, now a permanent OS. In the threatened period, ships through the straits (by notification) follow to Middle-earth for deployment to their RDBs.
      Quote: 1536
      know what to prepare for. The U.S. Navy or ships should not be allowed to be permanently in the Black Sea and control the straits.
      Sailors know for sure that everyone who is in the SM at the time of the start of large-scale databases will no longer see Sevastopol. The main thing is to have time to drown the tracked SSBNs and to maximally pick out the aircraft carriers. Both will be approximately 2 pieces each.
      As for amov. I believe that they also know that from the World Cup they have only one way - to the bottom. And the pouring zone will be blocked. This is an axiom.
      Quote: 1536
      And what are the Ukrainians (or those who live there), as well as the Georgians traitors!
      He met with many of them, served, was friends ... The peoples are good, but their rulers are * for sale *, they look in their mouths. Why they still tolerate them is unclear ... But this is not the worst. The worst thing is that they are used to start a big war against Russia, and then they will be thrown out as a used rubber product ... * Case whit * - an attack of the junta on the DPR-LPR. We can’t stand aside. States will catch up too ...
      So, little fun.
      1. mvg
        mvg 7 September 2015 22: 49 New
        0
        If large-scale databases begin, then not only the sailors of the SM and the World Cup will know that they will not see Sevastopol ... and there are VERY many Zulus, tauregs and VERY many nationalities ... If only a few yellow ones survive in their underground cities ...
      2. Scraptor
        Scraptor 29 September 2015 22: 24 New
        0
        Will they entrust them to defend Alaska too? repeat
        You can also block the Danish straits - over it now also has a bridge as well as over the Bosphorus. wassat
  • Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 5 September 2015 07: 46 New
    +5
    When will this satanic empire be torn apart? Everywhere dogs climb, all over the world!
    And with what joy Ukraine serves them, the fraternal people are called pancake! Found your enemy!
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 5 September 2015 08: 08 New
    +6
    Lived Ekary Babai! I remember in childhood I was vacationing in Batumi with my parents, so there were 3-4 warships constantly on the horizon (periodically changing) + border guards on the shore at night drove a couple from the shore (not laid) There was a quiet calm and pride in the country! a filthy broom from the Black Sea! I understand that Russia is also weak and actually surrounded by hostile states ..... Give nothing time!
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 5 September 2015 21: 40 New
      +2
      Quote: MIKHAN
      .. Nothing give time!

      And then along the entire coast of the Black Sea - from the Bosphorus to the Bosphorus, our border guards at night will drive a couple from the shore - not allowed! And it will be quiet, surprisingly calm and pride in the country! But the Bosphorus may not be - there will be a strait named after MIKHAN! laughing
      1. Das Boot
        Das Boot 5 September 2015 22: 00 New
        +3
        Quote: Bayonet
        But the Bosphorus may not be - there will be a strait named after MIKHAN!

        I see comrade MIKHAN soon on the VoenOboz meme will become, such as "Karl! .." and so on. In principle, the cliché of the local Shi30patriot has long been asking for itself ... With the exception of gender symbols, such as a horse on a gallop and a burning hut, I think he can do the rest.
  • Tusv
    Tusv 5 September 2015 08: 24 New
    +4
    For the third time, I propose trolling with a pop-up liferaft decorated with the slogan "Everything for your presence." Novorossiysk can do that
  • Izotovp
    Izotovp 5 September 2015 08: 41 New
    +4
    The only adequate answer will be the constant presence of our Navy and Air Force in the Caribbean and the Pacific Ocean off the coast of our most likely friends.
    1. Scraptor
      Scraptor 29 September 2015 22: 28 New
      0
      in the Great Lakes then ... by the way, why not?
      The river of St. Lavrenity (of that which was not Pavlovich) used to be navigable throughout, even before they built locks on it.

      but they don’t understand - the Stalin Strait between Canada and Mexico laughing
      it was not a joke.
  • SPB 1221
    SPB 1221 5 September 2015 08: 51 New
    +4
    Soon, no one will sail in the Black Sea. Dill said that since they dug it, now they will bury it in the evil of Russia !!! laughing
    1. olimpiada15
      olimpiada15 5 September 2015 09: 10 New
      +3
      Will they bury the ones that dug it?
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  • PValery53
    PValery53 5 September 2015 09: 11 New
    0
    The Americans in the Black Sea will not dictate something, but sniff in two holes and rejoice that every day for them in the Black Sea went smoothly and they are still intact.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 5 September 2015 09: 16 New
    +4
    “And in this case we can violate something, for example, block the Black Sea straits”

    It seems to me that the former commander of the Black Sea Fleet knows what he is talking about. And if so, then Russia has its trump card up its sleeve.
  • atamankko
    atamankko 5 September 2015 09: 53 New
    0
    This is not "exceptional", but "impudent" Americans.
  • sieras
    sieras 5 September 2015 09: 56 New
    +2
    Well, where are the whiners who wanted to return the Crimea because Could you buy cheese with mold once a year?
    understand I hope who and what now would be in the Crimea?
  • Nymp
    Nymp 5 September 2015 10: 22 New
    0
    "He admitted that the United States, of course, could violate the Montreux Convention, but" even in this case we can violate something, for example, block the Black Sea straits, "the expert concluded."

    If the states already violate the strictly prescribed rules for staying in the Black Sea basin for non-Black Sea countries, what else are we waiting for?
    1. far
      far 5 September 2015 11: 09 New
      -1
      The Montreux Convention consists in the fact that any ship of a non-Black Sea state can be in the Black Sea for no more than 45 days. If he does not leave voluntarily (not in view of malfunctions), any ship of the Black Sea state has the right to drown him without any consequences.
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 5 September 2015 11: 45 New
        +3
        Clarification:

        Quote: http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/ruwiki/977274
        Subject to prior notification by the Turkish authorities, the Black Sea Powers may navigate their warships of any class through the straits in peacetime. For warships of non-Black Sea powers, significant class restrictions have been introduced (only small surface ships pass) and tonnage.

        The total tonnage of military vessels of non-Black Sea states in the Black Sea should not exceed 30 thousand. t (with the possibility of raising this minimum to 45 thousand. t in case of an increase in the naval forces of the Black Sea countries) with a tenure no more than 21 days.

        In the case of Turkey’s participation in the war, and also if Turkey considers that it is directly threatened by war, it is granted the right to allow or prohibit passage of any military vessels through the straits. During a war in which Turkey is not participating, the straits should be closed to the passage of military vessels of any belligerent nation.
  • shasherin.pavel
    shasherin.pavel 5 September 2015 10: 22 New
    +1
    The “Code of Conduct for Unplanned Contacts at Sea” is a kind of “gentlemen’s agreement” that made it possible to increase the safety of US ships when meeting with Russian ships. Apparently they remembered how their ships met in the Black Sea and now they want to conclude a "gentleman" agreement: "You just do not push us out of the sea."
    “They don’t give a damn about everything that is connected with international rules that were established without them,” but here it’s necessary to add: “international rules are not written for them, because everything they“ sign ”to others is not a decree for them, they are above these rules for plebeians "Similar rules were used by Great Britain in its colonies, when under the ban there was everything that could threaten the Anglo-Saxons.
  • Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 5 September 2015 10: 23 New
    +1
    Quote: 1536
    In fact, the Americans can block our Black Sea Fleet from entering the Mediterranean Sea through the Bosporus and Dardanelles. This is precisely what they are seeking: to lock Russia in the Black Sea.

    In fact, this will violate all international agreements on shipping, which can be qualified as a declaration of war, which means that a solution to this problem is possible only by military means.
    Equally, Russia may limit the movement of NATO ships and their satellites in the Black Sea. What the US allies have in the Black Sea can be destroyed within a few days.
    I think that the Americans are unlikely to go to such an aggravation. Yankee bluff
    1. Scraptor
      Scraptor 29 September 2015 22: 32 New
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      In a few minutes ...
  • roskot
    roskot 5 September 2015 10: 27 New
    +1
    But once Napoleon suggested that Alesander I demolish the British Empire and go to the Turks, then there would be no Americans in Black. Missed such a chance ..

    We missed our chance when Tagged, with Northwind-Alash in the kingdom were. Bought for a piece of sausage.
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 5 September 2015 11: 54 New
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      Quote: roskot
      Bought for a piece of sausage

      Yes, and then soy sausage. Tolley business - in the USSR there were few varieties, but all was edible - meat.
  • roskot
    roskot 5 September 2015 10: 50 New
    +1
    Well then. We'll have to go to Florida. And offer our terms. The benefit can be refueled in Cuba.
    And bring refugees from the Middle East with you.
    1. 1536
      1536 5 September 2015 11: 59 New
      +2
      Cuba seems to be blown away! And soon there, at best, Mosfilm will remove the remake of the film "Amphibian Man" - nature will correspond to all 100%.
      1. Das Boot
        Das Boot 5 September 2015 13: 10 New
        +1
        Quote: 1536
        Cuba seems to be blown away!

        do not go to the grandmother. But base-keepers continue to slur the topic of "bases in Cuba and beyond everywhere ..."
  • Santjaga_Garka
    Santjaga_Garka 5 September 2015 11: 40 New
    -2
    It's time to put Turkey in its place, otherwise they let anyone get into the Black Sea! Overlap the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles and not let US ships go without the declared goal, but they will shake their guns - to scoop rockets from the Crimea ...
  • Old26
    Old26 5 September 2015 11: 45 New
    +3
    Quote: wicked partisan
    Since 2002, it has been called "Dmitry Donskoy." Now the submarine is armed with six 533-mm torpedo tubes, 22 torpedoes 53-65K, SET-65, SAET-60M, USET-80 and Vodopad missile torpedoes, 20 Bulava ballistic missiles, as well as 8 anti-aircraft missile Needle complexes.

    Thanks for the footnote. Not. of course 20 Bulava missiles on DD is cool, but the authors of the article seem to have drunk a bit yesterday
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 5 September 2015 13: 56 New
      +4
      Quote: Old26
      Not. of course 20 Bulava missiles on DD is cool, but the authors of the article seem to have drunk a bit yesterday

      If so, then you can understand and forgive ...
      Unfortunately, the authors are lazy and not curious. Could take a deeper interest in the subject they are writing about. Maybe then they would know how many mines were converted to an offshore stand for testing SLBMs.
      pr.941U / pr.09412 / pr.941UM is an upgrade option for the D-30 missile system with 20 R-30 Bulava-M missile launchers. From 1998 to June 26.06.2002, 208, the TK-941 SSBN was converted at the Sevmash Production Association, which had previously been modernized according to pr.2U / UTTKh — 30.06.2002 missile launchers for testing Bulava missiles in the bow of the ship were installed, equipment was modernized. Mooring trials of the boat began on June 26.07.2002, XNUMX, re-acceptance for trial operation at the Russian Navy - July XNUMX, XNUMX - for testing the Bulava-M missile system.
      http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic
      1. ancient
        ancient 5 September 2015 14: 38 New
        +3
        Quote: BoA KAA
        Unfortunately, the authors are lazy and not curious. Could take a deeper interest in the subject they are writing about. Maybe then they would know how many mines were converted to an offshore stand for testing SLBMs.


        Well, you ... Alexander-1 and .. "dreamed" wassat It is necessary to be able to read the letters at least ...., and you still put forward such an impossible criterion of selection as ... "INTEREST" wassat

        I have ... won ... what in the "opponents" -... "http://ok.ru/profile/357744328715/pphotos/770778
        629643 LOOK THE LINK And make sure that I am not the daughter of an officer

        I looked and ... I’ll go get a drink ... a hundredth ... for me it's ... "scary" wassat
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                1. Andrey Yuryevich
                  Andrey Yuryevich 5 September 2015 19: 58 New
                  +1
                  Quote: wicked partisan
                  Only for this alone this figure should be banned for life.

                  I agree Half-act ... it is necessary to punish hard! angry
                2. Ruslan67
                  Ruslan67 5 September 2015 20: 00 New
                  +2
                  Quote: wicked partisan
                  this figure should be banned for life.

                  Revenge is a bad feeling wassat
                  1. evil partisan
                    evil partisan 5 September 2015 20: 06 New
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                    Quote: Ruslan67
                    Revenge is a bad feeling

                    This is you now WHAT did you say? what The mouth does not seem to open sad ... Really ?? belay
                    1. Ruslan67
                      Ruslan67 5 September 2015 22: 52 New
                      +2
                      Quote: wicked partisan
                      This is you now WHAT did you say?

                      The main thing to whom bully
                  2. Andrey Yuryevich
                    Andrey Yuryevich 5 September 2015 20: 07 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Ruslan67
                    Revenge is a bad feeling

                    for that nice! wassat Hi Ruslan! hi
        2. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 6 September 2015 09: 27 New
          +3
          Quote: ancient
          I generally ... get out ... like in the "opponents" -
          I looked and ... I’ll go get a drink ... a hundredth ... for me it's ... "scary" wassat

          Well, and ANCIENT you, brother! I carefully looked at the photo. And it seems to me that he saw the sign of the Middle VU ... From a distance it looks like the Guards insignia. That's all for a short time! Therefore, the complexes.
          My father had a saying: * Who is always dirty and hungry? - Aviation technician *. They simply envy the flyers - that’s the reason.
  • EvgNik
    EvgNik 5 September 2015 11: 49 New
    -1
    Forgot, scum, the fate of Macedon, who, although he is called the greatest commander, was sugared in honey for less than 33 years. The current ones had to be alcoholized for another 10 years.
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 5 September 2015 13: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: EvgNik
      Forgot, scum, the fate of Macedon, who, although he is called the greatest commander, was sugared in honey for less than 33 years.

      hospadi, what does this have to do with it?
  • 1536
    1536 5 September 2015 11: 55 New
    +2
    Quote: SPB 1221
    Soon, no one will sail in the Black Sea. Dill said that since they dug it, now they will bury it in the evil of Russia !!! laughing


    They themselves will be buried there by a hairdryer! There were diggers, b ... they only know how ... And it’s not worthy to repeat this nonsense about the “dug up” sea everywhere. Indeed, young people can truly believe in this tale of autists from Ukraine. am
  • Evilcat
    Evilcat 5 September 2015 12: 12 New
    +1
    Russia may well oppose the Americans in the Black Sea
    Trandec! Can Russia oppose itself? They didn’t forget, by chance, how many years have Russian ships been sailing along the Black Sea? Here the question is whether the United States can oppose itself. But for some reason no one asks this question. Are they stupid or arrogant?
  • prostofily
    prostofily 5 September 2015 13: 09 New
    0
    In general, you can conduct ongoing exercises with shooting and warn of risks - who did not hide then and with them.
  • Das Boot
    Das Boot 5 September 2015 14: 06 New
    0
    in 1945-46, Molotov broadcast Stalin's thoughts on the Straits and the Montreux Convention. How it ended is known. And now it will be similar, only the poles will change.
  • far
    far 5 September 2015 15: 05 New
    -1
    Gentlemen among us there is one figure - here in the bayonet go on yusovskih infantry, and you're talking about aviation ....
    and then suddenly "Pasha G" appears, which the battalions capture everything .... pi ... pi ... pi ...
    In a word, I'm glad to see you !!!
    business trip report will be complete, too

    In general, my answer to him is - If you went to the bayonet, then I will be the first to remove my cap in front of you. Who please support.
  • uizik
    uizik 5 September 2015 15: 43 New
    0
    Ordinary chatter of the American admiral!
  • Militia
    Militia 5 September 2015 15: 57 New
    +1
    Quote: name
    Greetings to all! Well, the "code of conduct" from the United States was predetermined in 2014 and repeated in 2015 ... over "cookie" and "Ross." Let them sing psalms and burden the work of their psychoanalysts.


    Remember the year 1988. Bulk on the missile cruiser "Yorktown" and the destroyer "Karon" by guard ships SKR "Bezavezhetny" and "SKR-6". After 27 years, they started talking about a code of conduct. Probably decided to play it safe. And then all of a sudden again they will be robbed of the reckless (as they put it) Russians. Yes and what nah .. the code of conduct can be ??? Like children, chesslovo! Russian sailors recognize only the CODE OF HONOR. And the mattresses didn’t have it, but they don’t. Which is confirmed by fairy tales, such as - "let's respect us and our code of conduct." Yes pah on you and your behavior.
  • shvn
    shvn 5 September 2015 16: 54 New
    +3
    Quote: wks
    in Odessa, he called this city, where the Ukrainian Navy is now based, "the temporary home of the Ukrainian fleet."

    Actually the so-called "Ukrainian fleet" is time to relocate to Portland, closer to the sponsors.

    no, it's time to end the existence of the toy fleet Ruins. Indulged - and that's enough
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  • NordUral
    NordUral 5 September 2015 20: 52 New
    0
    Anglo-Saxon merde will have to explain that they are wrong. Quite already endured.
  • mamont5
    mamont5 6 September 2015 15: 19 New
    +1
    "The US Navy" is trying to maintain an almost constant presence in the Black Sea ""

    They need to be drowned (along with the vessels of their local jackals). Not by ourselves, of course, but by the "forces of nature" so that there would be no superfluous stench, but only a groan and a gnash of teeth.
  • Tektor
    Tektor 6 September 2015 16: 21 New
    +2
    If the Montreux Convention of 1936 on the Status of the Black Sea Straits, which limits the presence of warships of non-Black Sea states, determines the class of these ships, etc. if it ceases to be respected, this will cast doubt on the sovereignty of Turkey over the straits ...
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 6 September 2015 17: 14 New
    +1
    And on the hill? If you can drown a couple of tubs on the Bosphorus. And not necessarily not pin-up.
  • Rostislav
    Rostislav 6 September 2015 20: 29 New
    0
    I just did not understand one
    The receiving side - the Ukrainian army - involved 1 thousand military personnel, nine navy ships a dozen patrol boats of the border service, 8 aircraft and helicopters, and up to 50 units of wheeled vehicles.

    where did they get so much from? Or the author beguiled what?