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Administration of the President of Ukraine promises to consider a petition on the right of citizens to protection (for the presence of firearms) within 10 days

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The administration of President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko is obliged in the near future to consider a petition, created on the official website of the ukroprezidenta and dedicated to the right of citizens of Ukraine to the presence of firearms weapons. The fact is that this petition is gaining 25 thousands of votes, which automatically leads to the need for its consideration by the Ukrainian authorities. At least, this is exactly the situation with regard to the petitions filed on the website of the President of the country in Ukraine.


Administration of the President of Ukraine promises to consider a petition on the right of citizens to protection (for the presence of firearms) within 10 days


В microblogging Administration of the President of Ukraine has a comment about the petition:

Within 10 days, the position regarding the petition (on the right of citizens of Ukraine to be defended), which was the first to collect 25000 signatures, will be made public - D. Shimkiv.


For reference: D. Shimkiv - Dmitry Shimkiv, is the deputy head of the presidential administration Poroshenko.

In fact, such a petition leads to a kind of fork for the Ukrainian authorities. After all, if the initiative of the petitioner is evaluated by the authorities of Ukraine positively, then this will lead to an even greater spread of “firearm” in the country. If Poroshenko rejects the petition, then he will have to explain to the people why the radicals have the right to have firearms (and who gave them this right?), And the rest of Ukrainians do not have this right? .. But Poroshenko does not admit he simply does not have the authority, forces and means to disarm the radicals.
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  1. Sosed_26
    Sosed_26 4 September 2015 14: 25 New
    +8
    In may let's shoot each other in Kiev soldier
    they don’t have enough weapons that from the so-called ATO zone comes to Kiev
    1. Samaritan
      Samaritan 4 September 2015 14: 26 New
      +9
      This will kill Ukraine, or rather kill it!
      1. Now we are free
        Now we are free 4 September 2015 14: 46 New
        +9
        For example, I’m only FOR! At the same time, let's see how a society perceives which the right to have firearms did not mention (in contrast to the USA) new freedoms ... Ukraine is a kind of training ground on which:
        Maidan-run-in (Thank you, Russia took root from this abomination)
        -brokat European freedoms and rights with garbage lustration burning alive (thanks again, the Liberals in our country have long been biting their elbows that they were so unreasonably crawling with frostbite Svidomo Russophobes from the very beginning of the "Democratic Maidan" and now you can’t wash yourself off from this kiss, although some types of Makar and Arbenina and are not going to launder)
        -Back around various anti-Maidan methods as success -Crimea, various ways of conducting the Hybrid Wars database, information wars, etc. the practice is colossal!
        - the EU-US gap, even if not a momentary, but long-lasting one, is being run in because the latter want to tackle the EU with their faces in Ukraine ... making a problem and forcing their European friends to clean up after them.
        -I think of writing too many tests on both sides of the latest types of weapons
        -Now the novelty is rolling in - “Civil weapons” although I think Poroshenko / Valtsman will be categorically against such an initiative. However, the population of the weapon, and without its permission, has a lot, and this is by no means short barrels ...

        Ukraine is a training ground and as the Jews say, “So I’ll see what’s new and who is going to run around at this training ground ...
        1. Grabberxnumx
          Grabberxnumx 4 September 2015 15: 31 New
          +9
          I already saw this movie somewhere ..
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      3. Alexey Boukin
        Alexey Boukin 4 September 2015 15: 17 New
        +3
        That's right. The adoption of this law means the self-destruction of the country's population. That's just a pity for innocent people who have become hostages of the situation in Ukraine.
        1. 222222
          222222 4 September 2015 15: 38 New
          +3
          alexey bukin (1) SU Today, 15:17 ↑ New
          That's right. The adoption of this law means the self-destruction of the country's population. @
          ... fate is evident ...

          ..Abram, what is fate?
          - Oh, that’s if you walk along the street, and a brick falls on your head!
          - And if by?
          - There is no chance.
          .......................... laughing
      4. Major Yurik
        Major Yurik 4 September 2015 15: 26 New
        +8
        Quote: Samaritan
        This will kill Ukraine, or rather kill it!


        Pete filed a petition! Petun will have 10 days of binge over this pun, and then he will grunt that Russia will provoke dill! am
    2. kocclissi
      kocclissi 4 September 2015 14: 34 New
      +3
      But this, anti-tank rake .......
      1. Mareman Vasilich
        Mareman Vasilich 4 September 2015 15: 15 New
        +2
        This is called hello chaos and anarchy.
        1. marlin1203
          marlin1203 4 September 2015 15: 35 New
          +4
          Well, that's right. The experiment is methodically organized correctly. First, hands and teeth, then clubs and police shields, then muscular throwing weapons in the form of cobblestones and Molotov cocktails. So we got to the gunshot. The evolution of banderlogs, practically "Rise of the Apes" laughing
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 September 2015 16: 00 New
      +1
      Their weapons smuggled into Russia already well.
  2. kopar
    kopar 4 September 2015 14: 26 New
    +2
    Everything will stall ..... As usual, it happens. There are options to shift "under the cloth"
  3. sagitch
    sagitch 4 September 2015 14: 26 New
    +5
    Again decided to play with fire! Ordinary citizens will not have weapons, but officially all groups will arm themselves !!!
  4. sever.56
    sever.56 4 September 2015 14: 26 New
    +6
    Well, that's it ... Write letters, as they say! Soon, without a machine gun, with such chaos that the PSs and other nationalists are creating, with such a poor economy and people, it will be impossible to go and get bread, they will take it away. Every woman - with a machine gun, every man - with a machine gun!
  5. PPD
    PPD 4 September 2015 14: 27 New
    +4
    Well, yes, now it’s not enough there!
    And so soon they will shoot each other. Visible for full warranty. Can grenades be possible too?
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  7. sl22277
    sl22277 4 September 2015 14: 28 New
    +4
    Against whom will they defend themselves? Friend from Friend? After all, legalizing weapons, the government signs a death sentence for itself.
  8. roskot
    roskot 4 September 2015 14: 30 New
    +4
    Everything is like in the States. Each machine gun, pistol and grenade. Gathering in the Square of Independence.
  9. Sosed_26
    Sosed_26 4 September 2015 14: 30 New
    +1
    Quote: PPD
    Well, yes, now it’s not enough there!
    And so soon they will shoot each other. Visible for full warranty. Can grenades be possible too?

    What are you about what grenades omnipotent Rada TANKS agree good
    so that the deputies wouldn’t be afraid to go to work, otherwise the hungry people are so angry with the government fellow
  10. Temples
    Temples 4 September 2015 14: 33 New
    +4
    Poroshenko does not admit that he simply does not have the authority, forces and means to disarm the radicals.


    Who needs his recognition?
    Talking doll.
    A worthless person is hard to find.
    Does he have at least some independent solutions?
    Is it just physiological in nature.
  11. chelovektapok
    chelovektapok 4 September 2015 14: 36 New
    +4
    The drunk, as always, has no meaning. Allow, forbid .... There are so many on hand that it has already gone beyond the framework of the "permit system". We can only state that practically every Kalash with an RPG is in the hands of an insane population. Puffy hungover creature let him try to take away!
  12. Voha_krim
    Voha_krim 4 September 2015 14: 41 New
    +4
    Abamka bites her elbows this there was no revelry with a firearm before him, and his proposals to Congress were "buried" without even reading! And on UKKKraine it will be a hundred times cooler than in Abamkoland sad
  13. Thomas
    Thomas 4 September 2015 14: 43 New
    +2
    This topic is not new in Ukraine. For several years, lobbyists who are directly related to the Ukrainian Association of Weapon Owners have been trying to push through this project. The cost of resolving the issue is billions of dollars.
    Now they are trying to solve this issue on a pseudo-patriotic hysteria.
  14. flSergius
    flSergius 4 September 2015 14: 46 New
    +3
    This is another way to shift the money of puppeteers galloping into their pockets: someone’s godfather will lead sales and imports, someone will speed up the process of registering and issuing permits for bribes, then they will wash off in a hitch, and there will be a poor armed crowd. Well, that’s what they need!
  15. Aleksandr1959
    Aleksandr1959 4 September 2015 14: 48 New
    +1
    In the current situation in Ukraine, this will lead to the expansion of the zone of open confrontation between different groups of the population.
  16. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 4 September 2015 14: 51 New
    +1
    Forgot to write a petition on the right to wear a GRANATE laughing
  17. pts-m
    pts-m 4 September 2015 14: 54 New
    +1
    the bloody pastry chef informs the rabbit ... that a lot of stunners divorced did not bother to order their quantity. for this I will sign a decree on free ownership and wearing zbrui .... it will bear fruit.
  18. kit-kat
    kit-kat 4 September 2015 14: 57 New
    +1
    At least some Ukrainian people benefit from Bandera.
  19. raid14
    raid14 4 September 2015 15: 00 New
    +1
    If not at all, then they will deny the population permission for a firearm under the pretext of an ATO and a difficult economic situation, or otherwise the country will fall apart and each farm with the next “Old Man Makhno” will declare its independence.
  20. roskot
    roskot 4 September 2015 15: 15 New
    +1
    Will they also issue shooting licenses?
  21. lukke
    lukke 4 September 2015 15: 18 New
    +1
    I suggest to go further - to issue salaries with cartridges
  22. rf xnumx
    rf xnumx 4 September 2015 15: 23 New
    +4
    petition on the right of citizens to protection (for the availability of firearms)
  23. Kochegarkin
    Kochegarkin 4 September 2015 15: 25 New
    +7
    here I found a picture in the subject ...


    the future is independent in case of mass arming of the population
  24. sw6513
    sw6513 4 September 2015 15: 27 New
    +2
    Sign the petition, the fun will begin soon ..
  25. Pilot
    Pilot 4 September 2015 15: 45 New
    +2
    Quote: Mareman Vasilich
    This is called hello chaos and anarchy.

    And so that all Ukrainians themselves and shoot.
  26. Makarov
    Makarov 4 September 2015 15: 52 New
    +1
    guys for what GS? =)
  27. Neophyte
    Neophyte 4 September 2015 15: 53 New
    +2
    Who needs this? Unaccounted for weapons are full even when cold weather comes and complete
    pipetsa, ukrpipl begins to shoot at each other.
  28. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 4 September 2015 16: 30 New
    +4
    Apparently on the next Maidan, even "snipers" will not be needed .... Everyone will come with their own ...

    Pisi: And then everyone will go to Europe - to establish life ...
  29. LEVIAFAN
    LEVIAFAN 4 September 2015 17: 01 New
    0
    Quote: Mama_Cholli
    Apparently on the next Maidan, even "snipers" will not be needed .... Everyone will come with their own ...

    Pisi: And then everyone will go to Europe - to establish life ...

    and heal then. sounds like a toast. drinks
  30. uzer 13
    uzer 13 4 September 2015 17: 30 New
    +3
    It’s hard in the village without a gun!
    We have already stopped discussing this topic because of hopelessness, now it is surfacing in Ukraine. What is the point of banning what is already taking place? A Ukrainian unarmed citizen is in an even more ambiguous position than a Russian one. bandits on the one hand and with those who should protect him from them on the other, but also with political bandits. Wherever the poor peasant goes, everyone robs him.
    I can say to opponents of self-defense weapons that everyone who wanted to have one, both in Ukraine and Russia, has long had one. Those who don’t have a weapon endanger not only their own lives, but also their family members, friends and just strangers who may need real help, rather than lengthy discussions on forums about some terrible harm emanating from self-defense weapons. In tsarist Russia, it was freely sold without any documents, something is not mentioned anywhere about any incidents.
  31. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 4 September 2015 17: 35 New
    +1
    What weapons are they? The whole world was stirred up with tires and cobblestones. Savages! Sala, Sala "Hero"
    1. provincial
      provincial 5 September 2015 14: 46 New
      0
      what permission, weapons, and so in bulk. Let them get ready for winter, although this may be a permitted way to survive the winter.
  32. dr.star75
    dr.star75 4 September 2015 17: 35 New
    +4
    I do not agree with most comments, because:
    1. The absence of such a law from the point of view of the Maidan greatly helped? Weapons were full, and illegal.
    2. Does the absence of such a law now help in / in Ukraine? Again: illegal weapons are in full possession of any rabble, but law-abiding citizens do not have them! You can walk a scumbag with an illegal PMm and threaten them, knowing that normal people do not have it. But if he knows what a modest young man with glasses can possibly have, he has the same one, maybe he’s okay, I’ll go better look for a treasure?
    3. In the DLNR, there are probably only tanks in the personal compound (although this is not a fact), and somehow they did not shoot each other.
    4. In the 60s, in our store “sporting goods” you could buy “small things” only with a passport (and this, according to modern rules, is a rifled weapon and you can buy it now only with an impeccable 5-year hunting experience), and also like that did not shoot each other.
    5. We had a rifle club in our school. I, along with the teacher, of course, carried small things wrapped in sweatshirts, along the street, from the place of storage to the shooting gallery, and somehow it didn’t occur to me to go with them to the bank for example (joke of course!)
  33. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 4 September 2015 18: 28 New
    +1
    and this is a fee for the help of the Americans. America is all tied to the arms trade, and Ukraine is an ideal market. That's the order from above to pass the law.
  34. Normal ok
    Normal ok 4 September 2015 18: 36 New
    +2
    Personally, I am for such a right. I will explain. Since childhood, I had a hunting weapon in my house. Grandfather, a reserve officer, was chairman of the Society of Hunters and Fishers. And from childhood I was taught how to deal with him responsibly! to handle. Back in 1986, I personally took 1 a place in the Odessa region for disassembly - AKM. Yes, and in the school (when the Union was the case) very well taught how to handle weapons. So why now all freaks have a trunk (often illegal), and I can’t protect my family if the 3-4 thug breaks in.
  35. roskot
    roskot 4 September 2015 18: 55 New
    +2
    They offer to open the hunting season in Kuev.
    And there is someone to shoot and there is someone.
  36. 79807420129
    79807420129 4 September 2015 20: 13 New
    +10
    Yes, let them shoot each other in Kuev and Lviv, it will be easier for the Donbass.
  37. Evilcat
    Evilcat 4 September 2015 21: 13 New
    +1
    Well, they will. So, what is next? As far as I know, in the USA, depending on the state, the license includes from 12 to 16 points. This caliber, automatic weapons, the presence of a silencer, and other features. Do you seriously believe that Ukrainian legalists will provide for all such nuances? No, seriously?
  38. maksimovich
    maksimovich 4 September 2015 22: 58 New
    0
    Aids will never allow goyim to own weapons.