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Specialists of the Russian design bureau “Luch” printed out UAVs on a 3D printer

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The Director-General of the Design Bureau Luch (United Instrument-Making Corporation) Mikhail Shebakpolsky said that the company’s specialists had managed to develop and print on a 3D printer a short-range unmanned aerial vehicle, which is currently being tested, in just six weeks.




“We made a drone in the class of short-range, entirely printed on 3D-printer. It was created and already flown - at present, this UAV is located in Nizhny Tagil. The whole cycle of works from the formation of the technical task took about 1,5 a month, ”the newspaper quotes him. "Sight".

The CEO noted that specialists from the Rybinsk engine-building plant Saturn and the state corporation Rostec participated in the work on the UAV.

“The UAV was designed specifically for the 3D printer. There is still a lot of work to be done: the size of the device, materials for three-dimensional printing, domestic equipment. To date, the wing span of the drone is 2,5 meters, the go-pro camera was used as the payload, Shebakpolsky said.

It is worth noting that recently Russian engineers are actively working on various unmanned aerial vehicles. So, during the MAKS-2015 aviation salon, the perspective Fregat drone, the ZALA 421-16Е5 operational-tactical air reconnaissance complex and the Teal airbag reconnaissance drone were presented. In addition, in 2019, the serial production of the Orion 1 drone drone will be launched.
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  1. Byshido_dis
    Byshido_dis 4 September 2015 12: 09 New
    +17
    Wow what a handsome man !!! Finalize and put into mass ... printing;)
    1. self-propelled
      self-propelled 4 September 2015 12: 23 New
      +13
      Specialists of the Russian design bureau “Luch” printed out UAVs on a 3D printer

      ay, where are you all-scouts? who shouted there that Russia can only trade resources?
      God forbid any state to live "troubled times" like those that Russia experienced (get bogged down). and God grant you, after all that mess, find the strength to "get on your feet."
      I hope this (implementation of the capabilities of the 3D printer) the first swallow. further more
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      2. siberalt
        siberalt 4 September 2015 12: 37 New
        +7
        Well done! It remains only to finalize your printer, your consumables and in series.
        1. Mahmut
          Mahmut 4 September 2015 12: 51 New
          +7
          ay, where are you all-scouts? who shouted there that Russia can only trade resources?

          And whose printer. That's when there will be its equipment, then we will rejoice.
          1. self-propelled
            self-propelled 4 September 2015 12: 59 New
            0
            But is there information about the model of the printer on which this product was sculpted?
            only chur without common phrases, they say all the modern machine tools and appliances Russia buys for the cordon. I want fried facts, not idle talk hi
            1. Vanya Ivanov
              Vanya Ivanov 4 September 2015 22: 53 New
              0
              a detailed review of Russian 3D printers .http: //www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/? search = 3D-printer.
          2. Homo
            Homo 4 September 2015 13: 02 New
            +3
            Quote: Mahmut
            And whose printer. That's when there will be its equipment, then we will rejoice.

            Not tired? China uses Western equipment and copies equipment and does not bother. And he does not shout at every corner "there is none, everything is lost, we are a backward country" !!!
          3. Iline
            Iline 4 September 2015 17: 58 New
            +2
            Somehow all this is strange. In practice, knowing the speed at which the printer prints even small plastic parts (from several hours to several days) and a resolution of 0,15 mm (the result is rough, especially if it contains even small bending radii), I strongly doubt that all the details for this UAV were made on a 3D printer. With metals it is still much sadder. And this despite the fact that for these printers you also need to develop a drawing in electronic form (also a very long time occupation). Or am I missing something in the development of 3D printers today? Or were there several hundred of these printers in order to keep within 1,5 months?
            Most likely, journalists, as usual, did not dive deep into the essence of the matter.
            1. Mahmut
              Mahmut 5 September 2015 05: 04 New
              +1
              And this despite the fact that for these printers you also need to develop a drawing in electronic form (also a very long time lesson)

              As I understand it, it was a joke. Even at AvtoVAZ, for whose “backwardness” every second patriot likes to kick, it’s been no more than 15 years since anyone has used kulmans. All new drawings are in electronic form only. Having the skill to work with auto-cad, compass, and other programs, drawing takes an order of magnitude less time. Moreover, the program eliminates design errors. At the same time, a 3D model and a mathematical model of the product are created. But here is a 3D printer to print at least a naked body is not and is not expected.
          4. gozmosZh
            gozmosZh 4 September 2015 20: 26 New
            +1
            and until World War II, Germany purchased axes from alloy steel for remelting into the hulls of its battleships. What is it like? Krupp factories did not pull?
          5. slavarachkov. 28
            slavarachkov. 28 5 September 2015 16: 08 New
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            > And whose printer. That's when there will be its equipment, then we will rejoice.

            Where do we recruit people to do everything ourselves? Unless we carry out "humanization", as once dispossessed). But then you need a "gulag." Which archipelago will we choose for it?)
        2. reut.sib
          reut.sib 4 September 2015 13: 09 New
          +3

          In our vast expanses they are very necessary. Let it be dreams, but you need to squeeze the tail to the "black loggers" and other bastards.
        3. KaPToC
          KaPToC 4 September 2015 13: 18 New
          +1
          Quote: siberalt
          Well done! It remains only to finalize your printer, your consumables and in series.

          For example, the Americans fly on someone else’s titanium and do not worry, why should it soar us?
      3. Dazdranagon
        Dazdranagon 4 September 2015 14: 12 New
        +2
        Quote: self-propelled
        ay, where are you all-scouts?
        - I’m not an all-rounder, but while you don’t have your machines / printers, you shouldn’t throw your hats! hi
      4. APASUS
        APASUS 4 September 2015 20: 57 New
        0
        Quote: self-propelled
        ay, where are you all-scouts? who was shouting that Russia can only trade resources? God forbid any state to live through “troubled times” like those that Russia experienced (get bogged down). and God grant you, after all that mess, find the strength to "get on your feet." I hope this (the implementation of the capabilities of a 3D printer) is the first sign. further - great

        What it means
        “We made a drone in the short-range class, fully printed on a 3D printer.
        A glider, an engine, a control system are also printed on a 3D printer, and until they press the blade of a jet engine it’s all babble. The production of materials with programmable physical properties is aerobatics, and spray from the sprayer according to the established program and build a model of the glider. ............. young technician
    2. Infinity
      Infinity 4 September 2015 12: 25 New
      +3
      Quote: Byshido_dis
      Wow what a handsome man !!! Modify and put into mass production

      Yes, 3D printer technology of the future is already in the present!
      The only thing is that not all of them can be produced quickly. Some parts break quickly (like in a printed gun that breaks after a few shots).
    3. Voha_krim
      Voha_krim 4 September 2015 12: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: Byshido_dis
      Wow what a handsome man !!! Finalize and put into mass ... printing;)

      And we will print these beauties as sausages (according to Khrushchev) !!!
      1. SAG
        SAG 4 September 2015 12: 52 New
        0
        And we will print these beauties as sausages (according to Khrushchev) !!!

        Yeah, and even according to Stalin, we’ll print a nuclear bomb ... then diapers in the US and the EU will not be enough for childrenwassat
    4. Professor
      Professor 4 September 2015 12: 38 New
      -1
      Quote: Byshido_dis
      Wow what a handsome man !!!

      Yeah. Israeli designers tried their best. good

      1. Lawyer
        Lawyer 4 September 2015 12: 51 New
        +4
        What is there to try, the usual tailless tail of which a dime a dozen.
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 4 September 2015 13: 09 New
          +13
          Quote: Professor
          Yeah. Israeli designers tried their best. good

          All aircraft are similar, because the laws of physics and aerodynamics are the same for all.
          And about the "amazing" Israeli "designers" we have already heard, the machine gun Galil (AK) is an example. laughing

          And the Israeli SUV Storm Mark I (which is a Jeep Wrangler) laughing

          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 4 September 2015 13: 41 New
            +1
            The picture in the article UAV ZALA 421-16E5
            The range of the video channel is 150 km
            Flight Duration 6-7 h
            UAV wing span 5000 mm
            Maximum flight altitude 3600 m
            Takeoff Pneumatic launcher
            Landing Parachute and Air Shock Absorber
            Engine Type Electric Pusher
            Speed ​​65-110 km / h
            Maximum take-off weight 29,5 kg
            Target load weight up to 5 kg
            ANN navigation with SNA correction, radio range finder
            Target loads Type 16E + / Type 16E5
            Optional Digital Camera 24MP Built-in Camera
            Glider Two detachable consoles and fuselage
            Maximum allowable wind speed 15 m / s
            Operating temperature range -30 ° C ... + 40 ° C
            Built-in automatic target tracking module
            The complex is designed for air surveillance under adverse environmental conditions at any time of the day at a distance of up to 150 km with the transmission of video in real time.

            http://zala.aero/bespilotnyj-samolet-zala-421-16e5/
          2. The brightest
            The brightest 4 September 2015 13: 48 New
            0
            If Stirlitz suddenly swears in Russian in a secret Israeli bureau. He does not take out any suspicion of espionage ...
            P.S. Israel’s entire defense industry is based on Soviet Jews. Here, rather, we need to once again make a claim to us about the privatized developments ... As in the cases with the same Galileo.
            1. padded jacket
              padded jacket 4 September 2015 13: 58 New
              +1
              Quote: Svetly
              Israel's entire defense industry rests on Soviet Jews

              I would say a little differently, the entire defense industry of Israel rests on the borrowing and copying of ideas from around the world (but of course the fact that the Jews "took" the USSR / Russia gave a huge push to the Israeli military-industrial complex)
          3. Professor
            Professor 4 September 2015 15: 04 New
            0
            Quote: Sid.74
            And about the "amazing" Israeli "designers" we have already heard, the machine gun Galil (AK) is an example.

            This machine was made in Israel under license.

            Quote: Sid.74
            And the Israeli SUV Storm Mark I (which is a Jeep Wrangler)

            This car was also manufactured in Israel under license.

            And on Orbitrer-3, I do not remember that Russia acquired a license. wink
            1. Sid.74
              Sid.74 4 September 2015 15: 35 New
              +3
              Quote: Professor
              And on Orbitrer-3, I do not remember that Russia acquired a license.wink

              And who said this is your 3 orbiter?
              The orbiter has small horns in the front of the device, our ZALA 421-16E5 does not.
              Zala is Izhevsk, firm Zala aero group, so that nobody stole your unique design. wink
              Quote: Professor
              This machine was made in Israel under license.

              Well, yes, and who bought the license from the Finns?laughing
              1. Professor
                Professor 4 September 2015 15: 40 New
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                Quote: Sid.74
                The orbiter has small horns in the front of the device, our ZALA 421-16E5 does not.

                Show the Hall in front.
                By the way, this is not only my opinion, but also your experts. For example, Denis Fedutinov.
                1. Sid.74
                  Sid.74 4 September 2015 16: 01 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Professor
                  Show the Hall in front.

                  No photo in front ... request But in the schematic illustration from the Zala website, there are no horns.
                  And the media talk about the joint production of UAVs was about the "searcher" IAI Searcher 2 (which is an outpost)

                  And the collaboration was on the Zastava UAV (IAI Bird-Eye 400), and this is a completely different song and a different design.
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 4 September 2015 16: 47 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Sid.74
                    But in the schematic illustration from the Zala website, there are no horns.

                    On the image? Yes, in the picture I can draw not only horns, but also a tail with a trunk.

                    Quote: Sid.74
                    And the collaboration was on the Zastava UAV (IAI Bird-Eye 400), and this is a completely different song and a different design.

                    The company Aeronautix, the one that was developed and manufactured by the Orbitrer, is now for sale. If Russia had money ...
                  2. padded jacket
                    padded jacket 4 September 2015 19: 46 New
                    0
                    Quote: Sid.74
                    There is no photograph in front .. But in the schematic drawing from the Zala website, there are no horns.

                    Above, I gave a video of this particular UAV (its number is clearly visible on the tail), the professor simply does not see this video since I’m in emergency, put it on your own so that he can see it.
      2. World Cup 2014
        World Cup 2014 4 September 2015 14: 46 New
        -1
        Israeli designers can only copy American and Russian technology
    5. Samaritan
      Samaritan 4 September 2015 13: 07 New
      +2
      In Rybinsk, Yaroslavl Oblast, OJSC KB Luch has opened a new building designed for serial production of unmanned aerial vehicles. More than 120 million rubles were invested in the creation of a new production.
      The production building with an area of ​​2200 square meters was erected as part of the first stage of a large-scale investment project, which is being implemented on the basis of the Luch design bureau. At its facilities, it is planned to release a promising middle-class UAV Corsair, designed to monitor the situation within a radius of 120 kilometers, and a number of other short-range UAVs.
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  2. Siberia55
    Siberia55 4 September 2015 12: 10 New
    +4
    That's right, manpower must be protected. The future is for robotics!
    1. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 4 September 2015 12: 17 New
      0
      And if this technique is hacked and sadanut by the creator? The man will remain in the war. The pilot cannot be replaced. UAVs can only be sandwiched by IS.
      The robot shot 9 soldiers
      http://www.mr7.ru/articles/18280/
    2. little girl15
      little girl15 4 September 2015 12: 36 New
      0
      Yes ... the further the more terrible it is to live. The enemy also has such technologies.
  3. Berg berg
    Berg berg 4 September 2015 12: 12 New
    +3
    Good luck ! Bigger and cheaper!
  4. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 4 September 2015 12: 13 New
    +2
    And the engine is printing? Fiction!
    1. Mainbeam
      Mainbeam 4 September 2015 12: 25 New
      +3
      and a radio control unit, and servos, and a camera
      1. Vanya Ivanov
        Vanya Ivanov 4 September 2015 13: 41 New
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        Quote: MainBeam
        and a radio control unit, and servos, and a camera

        No, of course, but there will be more.
    2. Vanya Ivanov
      Vanya Ivanov 4 September 2015 13: 40 New
      +1
      PRINT AND REACTIVE! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElUEaGPPn5U
  5. SAM 5
    SAM 5 4 September 2015 12: 18 New
    +2
    And do the engine print?

    Mustache print. good
    1. PQ-18
      PQ-18 4 September 2015 12: 27 New
      +2
      And the engine is printing? Fiction!

      not yet, ONLY ... money and kerosene for him too! wassat
    2. Voha_krim
      Voha_krim 4 September 2015 12: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: SAM 5
      And do the engine print?

      Mustache print. good

      If electric motors: - steel cores, copper winding, batteries ... hardly. Unless separate nodes.
  6. shinobi
    shinobi 4 September 2015 12: 19 New
    0
    We’ve been printing rocket engine cases and turbo-generating units for about 15 years already. A drone glider will be easier.
  7. vovanpain
    vovanpain 4 September 2015 12: 20 New
    +11
    But when, after all, when we want, we can. Young people are fellow countrymen.
  8. Prussian
    Prussian 4 September 2015 12: 20 New
    +1
    It becomes uninteresting to live, the dream comes down to having a printer, the decline of civilization will happen when 3-d printers, learn to print 3-d printers.
  9. Taygerus
    Taygerus 4 September 2015 12: 20 New
    +1
    cool, nothing to say good
  10. kil 31
    kil 31 4 September 2015 12: 20 New
    +1
    It was created and already flew - at present this UAV is in Nizhny Tagil. At the exhibition, for sale. I would like characteristics.
  11. Vanya Ivanov
    Vanya Ivanov 4 September 2015 12: 22 New
    +2
    3D printing is in the future as they can reproduce themselves. We do not develop this topic badly. http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/? search = 3D-printer.
    I watched a video where ours created a 3D printer printing with plastic fiber reinforced with carbon fiber. So the details are much stronger and lighter than steel ones. Maybe UAVs were blinded on this printer.
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    1. askort154
      askort154 4 September 2015 12: 36 New
      +1
      MainBeam ...... Disposable or what?

      Disposable works in an aggressive environment and therefore often breaks, and this one is in the vastness of nature. Good luck! lol
  13. Haettenschweiler
    Haettenschweiler 4 September 2015 12: 31 New
    +2
    Nothing is said about the characteristics of this UAV.
    Nothing is said about how much it took to “modify the file” after printing - it cannot be that the printer “draws” the machine immediately with all the necessary stuffing.
    Nothing is said about the price of such a "toy" printed on the printer, in comparison with the same, for example, assembled "the old fashioned way."
    But all this would be very interesting.
  14. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 4 September 2015 12: 46 New
    0
    Class! It remains only to learn how to create your own printers, without "partners".
    1. Professor
      Professor 4 September 2015 12: 49 New
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      Quote: gladysheff2010
      Class! It remains only to learn how to create your own printers, without "partners".

      Even schoolchildren make a printer today. The whole problem is in the print media.
      1. Iline
        Iline 4 September 2015 19: 12 New
        0
        Quote: Professor
        Even schoolchildren make a printer today. The whole problem is in the print media.

        I confirm. There is nothing very complicated to assemble the printer itself with the appropriate education, and there is nothing super complicated in these printers. But the materials for him - yes ...
  15. roskot
    roskot 4 September 2015 12: 57 New
    0
    Fly doves fly
    There are no obstacles for you anywhere.
    Carry doves, carry
    Hello ukrovoekam.
  16. vlad7777kul
    vlad7777kul 4 September 2015 13: 12 New
    0
    Such UAVs must be put up for sale as toys.
  17. slavaisrael
    slavaisrael 4 September 2015 13: 14 New
    +1
    In the meantime, welcome to the real world.
    The Russian Ministry of Defense purchased another 10 Forpost unmanned aerial vehicles this year, which are Israeli IAI Searcher MkII Israeli UAVs assembled in Russia under a license from the Ural Civil Aviation Plant, the Russian newspaper Vedomosti writes. Two sources reported to Vedomosti. manager of aircraft manufacturing enterprises and an interlocutor close to the Russian military. The representative of "Oboronprom" refrained from commenting, receiving comments from the Ministry of Defense and IAI failed, the publication said.

    According to the source, the amount of the transaction concluded this year is approximately $ 300 million.
    According to Russian expert in the field of unmanned systems Denis Fedutinov, in Russia there is no unmanned complex, similar in size to the Forpost complex. Speaking about the closest competitors, he mentioned two developments that are now being carried out in the interests of the Russian Ministry of Defense: a lighter UAV than the Outpost created by the Luch Design Bureau (part of the Vega concern controlled by Rostec), about 200 kg (against 430 kg at Forpost) - and the heavier drones weighing about 1 ton, which is being developed by Kronstadt (formerly called Transas). However, both of these systems are still in the early stages of testing, and several more years will pass before the start of their serial production. Meanwhile, the Outpost, obviously, turned out to be in great demand by the Russian military, who are currently actively exploiting it, which probably caused additional purchases.
    Forpost UAV in June of this year was presented at the Army 2015 exhibition held in Kubinka near Moscow. Then it was reported that it was planned to carry out modernization work in three stages. At the first stage, which is being implemented now, it is planned to create a modification of "Outpost-M". The new version of the UAV will be equipped with a GLONASS-based navigation system. Also, the device will receive a new secure communication line and a state recognition system. In this case, the updated UAV will be slightly heavier than the original - its take-off weight will be about 500 kg.

    At the second stage of work, it is planned to create a version of "Outpost-R". It will be distinguished by the availability of data relay equipment from UAVs "Forpost" and "Orlan", as well as from radio stations "Azart". Also, on board the UAV will be installed equipment for electronic intelligence (RTR) with a range of up to 250 km. In addition, this version will be equipped with the necessary equipment to interact with the air traffic control system (ATC).
    At the third stage, it is planned to create a modernized and deeply localized version of the UAV. In particular, it is planned to equip the UAV with new reconnaissance and surveillance equipment, including a digital aerial photography system (CAFS) and side-view radar. The payload equipment is supposed to be installed in a universal compartment inside the fuselage (up to 35 kg), as well as in containers on an external sling (up to 14 kg). At this stage, it is supposed to switch to the use of diagnostic tools and maintenance of Russian production.

    According to Russian expert in the field of unmanned systems Denis Fedutinov, plans to modernize the Outpost and localize its individual components arose a couple of years ago. "Such plans existed, and they fit into the usual practice for such cases, the current situation with the sanctions against Russia only stimulated this process," Fedutinov believes. Moreover, according to him, the above list of works is most likely incomplete.
  18. slavaisrael
    slavaisrael 4 September 2015 13: 15 New
    +1
    Recall that at the end of 2013, the Ural Civil Aviation Plant completed a contract for the assembly of Searcher MkII and BirdEye 400 unmanned systems developed by the Israeli company Israel Aerospace Industries, commissioned by the Russian Ministry of Defense.

    The contract for the assembly of unmanned systems was signed in 2010 by the Russian corporation Oboronprom and the Israeli company IAI. Its cost amounted to 400 million dollars. The UZGA plant, partially owned by Oboronprom, was chosen as the production site. Previously, this company was mainly engaged in the repair of aircraft engines.
    The "unmanned deal" with Israel caused an mixed reaction in Russia. This decision has been repeatedly criticized by a number of Russian politicians and aviation experts. Israel has refused a deal to supply Russia with more modern, including strike UAVs. In 2012, after the change of leadership of the Russian Ministry of Defense, the Russian media wrote about the possible completion of cooperation between Israel and Russia in the field of unmanned aerial vehicles. The new Minister of Defense of Russia Sergey Shoigu said then that from now on, priority would be given to equipment of Russian manufacturers. But cooperation with the Israeli concern IAI was continued.

    Military-technical cooperation with Russia has raised and raises many questions in Israel. This is due primarily to the fact that Moscow continues to supply arms to Iran and Syria. At the same time, Tehran is particularly interested in UAV technologies, developing its own production of this equipment. Iranian UAVs were repeatedly used by the Lebanese Hezbollah against Israel. During Operation Unbreakable Rock (in the summer of 2014), the simplest UAVs (including the Kamikaze drone) were first used by the Hamas terrorist organization in real-life combat operations. In addition, persistent rumors are circulating about the tests of Russian UAVs in combat conditions in Syria (Moscow categorically refutes these rumors). Against this background, Israel rejects Russia's proposals for the joint production of modern strike UAVs
  19. Jan Ivanov
    Jan Ivanov 4 September 2015 13: 17 New
    0
    It is very convenient to print in parts as needed. In parts of the future, of course. ) I hope not very far.
  20. komendor
    komendor 4 September 2015 13: 19 New
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    Quote: self-propelled
    Specialists of the Russian design bureau “Luch” printed out UAVs on a 3D printer

    ay, where are you all-scouts? who shouted there that Russia can only trade resources?
    God forbid any state to live "troubled times" like those that Russia experienced (get bogged down). and God grant you, after all that mess, find the strength to "get on your feet."
    I hope this (implementation of the capabilities of the 3D printer) the first swallow. further more


    I’ll add, Live the troubled times and get on your feet in such a short period of time, no country in the world has been able to.

    For a long time I want to ask, this site may not be the topic. So do we need a firearm in free sale or not?
  21. ilya_oz
    ilya_oz 4 September 2015 13: 30 New
    0
    I don't want to hear anything about drones until they hit angry
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  23. samuraiway
    samuraiway 4 September 2015 13: 38 New
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    In China, 2 large construction companies print houses. Cheap and fast. One of the developers is our compatriot from Belgorod. Now living and working abroad is not profitable for our construction companies. Ps. About the printout of a gunshot in the United States, probably already everyone knows ...
  24. Igor Polovodov
    Igor Polovodov 4 September 2015 13: 47 New
    +1
    Futuristic image, in the spirit of unrivaled leadership !!!
    Gopro in the furnace, you need to develop your own optics! The benefit of the Krasnogorsk plant them. S.A. Zvereva is on guard of the fatherland to this day !!!
  25. RiverVV
    RiverVV 4 September 2015 14: 02 New
    +3
    When the Russians were told what electric welding was, they built the T-34. When they were provided with tape, they launched a man into space. A computer with a 3D printer was shown to them in vain.
  26. Kaiten
    Kaiten 4 September 2015 14: 13 New
    +2
    Let's have less imagination. Only a plastic case can print. All other nodes: engine, cameras, electronics must be separately purchased and installed. But it is they who make the drone a military machine. Without them, the airplane is not much different from the pioneer crafts of model aircraft circles. It is not clear why printing, when at any serious airline there are machines and molds for the production of body panels. The use of molds significantly reduces the cost of the process, speeds it up and allows you to make it massive. 3D printers allow the construction of different parts on the same equipment, but if you produce the same part on a 3D printer, then it will certainly lose the press. Therefore, 3D printers are used for small-scale production, at universities, design bureaus, or even just in the household.
    1. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich 4 September 2015 14: 42 New
      +2
      So, apparently, the first pre-production sample was printed ... The main thing is that a mathematical
      model, and embodied in the material. If everything is successful, then the mold is already pressed.
      1. Kaiten
        Kaiten 4 September 2015 15: 03 New
        +1
        Quote: AlNikolaich
        So, apparently, the first pre-production sample was printed ... The main thing is that a mathematical
        model, and embodied in the material. If everything is successful, then the mold is already pressed.

        Then you need to write as it is: a team of aircraft engineers and programmers created a computer model of a drone that allows you to print the details of the case on a 3D printer.
        By the way, for the production of molds, this computer model will be of little use. Mold production is a very highly specialized field with special equipment with its highly specialized software.
  27. Crown
    Crown 4 September 2015 14: 22 New
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: Byshido_dis
    Wow what a handsome man !!!

    Yeah. Israeli designers tried their best. good


    And Israeli designers come from the USSR)))) The Soviet education system is the best in the world!
    1. Professor
      Professor 4 September 2015 15: 08 New
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      Quote: Krona
      And Israeli designers come from the USSR)))) The Soviet education system is the best in the world!

      Yeah. In 1987, they created their fighter retroactively since they began to move to Israel only in 1991. And the tank was made in general in 1979. Wonders. laughing
  28. Professor
    Professor 4 September 2015 15: 25 New
    -1
    By the way:
    The Russian army will continue to purchase Israeli-made drones

    A contract was signed for the supply of 10 new complexes in the amount of approximately $ 300 million
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 4 September 2015 15: 54 New
      +2
      Quote: Professor
      A contract was signed for the supply of 10 new complexes in the amount of approximately $ 300 million

      Well this statements, lied as always. Here and read:
      The representative of Oboronprom refrained from commenting; it was not possible to receive comments from the Ministry of Defense and IAI.

      And some unknown interlocutor confirmed ... lol
      Moreover, the statement was made by the Israeli side that year, saying that you would not have any drones because of Russia's position on Syria, Iran and Ukraine.
      1. Professor
        Professor 4 September 2015 16: 37 New
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        Quote: Sid.74
        Moreover, the statement was made by the Israeli side that year, saying that you would not have any drones because of Russia's position on Syria, Iran and Ukraine.

        There were no such statements.
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 4 September 2015 17: 10 New
          +1
          Quote: Professor
          There were no such statements.


          "We could get billions of dollars from Russia," the official said. In addition, he noted Moscow’s “unique opportunity” to influence Israel’s strategic positions in the region through relations with hostile states, such as Iran and Syria. But, the Defense News source added, "we must take care of the concerns of the United States," RIA Novosti reports.
          ......
          Currently, the contract for 400 of millions of dollars between Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) and OPK Oboronprom for the production of unmanned aerial vehicles based on Israeli developments is in the final stage of implementation.
          ......
          At the same time, the tension that has arisen around the situation in Ukraine makes Israel shy away from concluding new high-profile deals. Defense News sources point out vague delays in the implementation of the framework agreement between the Russian Federation and Israel on space cooperation.
          http://www.trend.az/world/israel/2280611.html
          1. Professor
            Professor 4 September 2015 17: 12 New
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            Quote: Sid.74
            http://www.trend.az/world/israel/2280611.html

            Have you sent me a link to an Azerbaijani site that links to an Israeli site that links to an anonymous official? I believe.
  29. Termit1309
    Termit1309 4 September 2015 16: 01 New
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    By the way:
    The Russian army will continue to purchase Israeli-made drones

    A contract was signed for the supply of 10 new complexes in the amount of approximately $ 300 million


    Well, you have to invent something in this world. smile
    1. Professor
      Professor 4 September 2015 16: 42 New
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      Quote: Termit1309
      Well, you have to invent something in this world.

      We have no problems with this. We earn as some brain pumping hydrocarbons from the bowels. lol

      Here are just the news for this week:
      Israeli company that created a minimally invasive heart valve replacement system sold for $ 1 billion


      Intel introduced a new generation of processors developed in Israel
  30. Termit1309
    Termit1309 4 September 2015 18: 03 New
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    Happy for you. How is YOUR 5th generation fighter program doing, how many nuclear submarines YOU laid this year, how many ships of rank 2-3 are built on your slipways ..... Although, okay, you won’t understand my humor. The professor does not need to puff and puff out his cheeks. The States at one time took licenses from Sweden for RPGs and Italy for pistols. And no one in the States did not sprinkle ashes on his head - we say poor. And no one in Italy and Sweden poked the United States, they can’t do normal pestles and borders. And as for brains and hydrocarbons, I would shut up, it’s ridiculous to listen to this from a country living on a subsidy from the USA
    1. Professor
      Professor 4 September 2015 20: 29 New
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      Quote: Termit1309
      How is YOUR fifth generation fighter program going, how many nuclear submarines YOU have laid this year, how many ships of rank 5-2 are being built on your stocks ....

      The fifth generation fighter is under construction, we do not need nuclear submarines (the Dead Sea has already died), like the ships listed by you.

      Quote: Termit1309
      The professor does not need to puff and puff out his cheeks.

      Do not be so self-critical.

      Quote: Termit1309
      The States at one time took licenses from Sweden for RPGs and Italy for pistols. And no one in the States did not sprinkle ashes on his head - we say poor.

      That's for sure. Americans calmly buy Carl Gustav and do not shout about import substitution. Maybe they just don’t have Rogozin and la la la?

      Quote: Termit1309
      And as for brains and hydrocarbons, I would shut up, it’s ridiculous to listen to this from a country living on a subsidy from the USA

      Are you talking to yourself? In 2013, bourgeoisie swelled $ 94 billion into Russia. We don’t have to dream of such a thing. sad
  31. leon1204id
    leon1204id 4 September 2015 23: 32 New
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    They printed on a 3D printer because used design programs. In the Sukhoi Design Bureau for about 15 years, these programs began to be done. That is, they greatly facilitated the design work and did not bathe about foreign engines and parts. Of course, other production equipment is needed in the series. Have you seen how coins are stamped in the mint? Somehow like this.
    Of course, you can listen to music written by a bot ...... no
  32. Termit1309
    Termit1309 5 September 2015 03: 28 New
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    Quote: Professor
    Fifth generation fighter is being built

    Built but not by you. By the way, I noticed that many debaters, as it were, do not see the difference between their country and the USA. If they do something there, we do it. If they are measured, they add all US troops to their armed forces.
    That's for sure. Americans calmly buy Carl Gustav and do not shout about import substitution. Maybe they just don’t have Rogozin and la la la?
    Shouting occasionally. When Congress recalls that they buy engines for their rockets from us.
    And I don’t understand your irony about import substitution. Engines for airplanes, helicopters, ships must do in the country. How did your toys with your kosher fighter end? You simply indicated your place and were denied engines on it. Well, the Chinese out of kindness bought.
    Are you talking to yourself? In 2013, bourgeoisie swelled $ 94 billion into Russia. We don’t have to dream of such a thing. sad
    But from this place in more detail, when did the bourgeoisie donate to us, how did they give you money?
    1. Professor
      Professor 5 September 2015 07: 46 New
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      Quote: Termit1309
      Built but not by you.

      Of course with us. We make wings, our avionics, software.

      Quote: Termit1309
      Shouting occasionally. When Congress recalls that they buy engines for their rockets from us.

      They never shout about purchasing from partners, and Russia is not a partner.

      Quote: Termit1309
      How did your toys with your kosher fighter end? You simply indicated your place and were denied engines on it. Well, the Chinese out of kindness bought.

      Who refused? In your engine, the reason for the closure of Lavi? lol

      Quote: Termit1309
      But from this place in more detail, when did the bourgeoisie donate to us, how did they give you money?

      Then when to us.
  33. dakty
    dakty 5 September 2015 09: 06 New
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    Quote: Professor
    We have no problems with this. We earn as some brain pumping hydrocarbons from the bowels.


    Fortunately, we have something to "download"! And you???
    And with the brains we have everything exactly. Remind me how many space rockets per year you launch? How much, how much ??? lol
    1. Professor
      Professor 5 September 2015 10: 07 New
      -1
      Quote: dakty
      Fortunately, we have something to "download"! And you???

      Unfortunately there is.

      Quote: dakty
      And with the brains we have everything exactly.

      Happy for you. So falling oil prices will not affect you in any way. It already reflects on us - gasoline is constantly getting cheaper.

      Quote: dakty
      Remind me how many space rockets per year you launch? How much, how much ???

      As much as there is a need. We do not have astronauts, but we satisfy the needs for spy satellites and communication satellites.

      PS
      You all wrote it on whose computer? In Chinese with an American processor? wink Here I am about that. Enjoy the fruits of civilization.
  34. dakty
    dakty 5 September 2015 10: 24 New
    +1
    I did not expect another answer. You then probably write on an Israeli computer! And your phone is domestic. When something you can’t simply say that it is not necessary. Ships, missiles, airplanes - this is progress and is created for the development of mankind. And you create what? Only that which kills. Ito, half copied, and half improved, but did not create. What do you think requires more brains: build a rocket or a drone? ...
    1. Professor
      Professor 5 September 2015 10: 35 New
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      Quote: dakty
      I did not expect another answer. You then probably write on an Israeli computer! And your phone is domestic. When something you can’t simply say that it is not necessary. Ships, missiles, airplanes - this is progress and is created for the development of mankind.

      I have a Chinese comp, a domestic-developed and manufactured processor. The phone is Korean, but with Israeli technology. Ships, missiles, planes today are made even by technologically backward countries like Iran. Here are the "progressive" Palestinians making rockets in general on their knees.

      Quote: dakty
      . And you create what? Only that which kills.

      Not only. Here are just the news for this week:
      Israeli company that created a minimally invasive heart valve replacement system sold for $ 1 billion


      Intel introduced a new generation of processors developed in Israel

      Quote: dakty
      Ito, half copied, and half improved, but did not create.

      Half copied and half improved? Right Sue us for plagiarism. wink

      Quote: dakty
      What do you think requires more brains: build a rocket or a drone? ...

      I think that a drone. Missiles are made by everyone and everything, from Palestinians, North Koreans to Persians with Pakistanis. But the club of drone manufacturers is still exclusive.
  35. dakty
    dakty 5 September 2015 11: 02 New
    +3
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: dakty
    What do you think requires more brains: build a rocket or a drone? ...
    I think that a drone. Missiles are made by everyone and everything, from Palestinians, North Koreans to Persians with Pakistanis. But the club of drone manufacturers is still exclusive.


    After these your words I have nothing to add. Of course, it is easier to create a rocket engine and all modules than a model airplane (which I did as a child in an airplane modeling circle), and control, take-off, docking programs, etc. simpler than software and communication equipment for 100-500 km for an airplane.
    There is nothing to argue about! And these "all and sundry" do not climb out of space look.
    1. Professor
      Professor 5 September 2015 11: 11 New
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      Quote: dakty
      There is nothing to argue about!

      Right Arabs rockets in garages riveting including their engines, and Russia buys drones from Israel.
  36. dakty
    dakty 5 September 2015 11: 24 New
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    Quote: Professor
    Arabs rockets in garages rive including their engines


    Do not distort, professor, you understand what kind of missiles we are talking about ...
    1. Professor
      Professor 5 September 2015 11: 33 New
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      Quote: dakty
      Do not distort, professor, you understand what kind of missiles we are talking about ...

      What about? To send astronauts to Mars? wink
      If you are about the ability to launch a satellite, then this was done by such technologically “developed” countries as India, Iran and North Korea. But Germany did not start. Do you know why? Correctly. Did not want.
      1. Dazdranagon
        Dazdranagon 7 September 2015 12: 10 New
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        Quote: Professor
        If you are about the ability to launch a satellite, then this was done by such technologically “developed” countries as India, Iran and North Korea. But Germany did not start. Do you know why? Correctly. Did not want.
        - here you have the logic ... And imagine that on ALL of your spy satellites (which you wrote about above that you have enough) is a small killer of satellites, posed by the launching country. And if necessary, you remain blind. Is a drone hard to shoot down, by the way?
        1. Professor
          Professor 7 September 2015 12: 40 New
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          Quote: Dazdranagon
          And imagine that ALL of your spy satellites (which you wrote about above that you have enough) have a small satellite killer posed by a launching country.

          Fantasy. Launcher (I hope Israel doesn’t bookmark itself laughing ) asks the customer to go out for a smoke and secretly fastens the destruction unit to the customer’s satellite. lol

          Quote: Dazdranagon
          Is a drone hard to shoot down, by the way?

          And you ask General Shamanov. He will tell you. wink
  37. Termit1309
    Termit1309 5 September 2015 18: 06 New
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    Of course with us. We make wings, our avionics, software.

    Well, yes, India, too, is struts and beautiful decorations on our fighter is going to do. Why are you cooler?
    Quote: Professor
    They never shout about purchasing from partners, and Russia is not a partner.

    and you that partners? Such "partners" as Lesha Gorbunkova for the trunk and to the museum.
    Quote: Professor

    Who refused? In your engine, the reason for the closure of Lavi?

    Yes, you were denied engine supplies, and you shut up. Without an engine from F-15,16, Lavi cannot be built. The Chinese, our Russian, could find an analog. Our Chinese will refuse and your project will bark there. If so technically competent, find an analogue other than Russian or State.
    Quote: Professor

    Then when to us.

    And every year they give you poverty. So that they obeyed and ate porridge.
    Quote: Professor
    Right Arabs rockets in garages riveting including their engines, and Russia buys drones from Israel.

    And some Alef recently said that the Arabs did not make rockets for a long time, but they bought ready-made hailstones and tornadoes in Libya. Russians have not otherwise violated Libyan statehood so that rockets appear on the black market

    But Germany did not start. Do you know why? Correctly. Did not want.
    And Luxenburg did not want to. And Papua New Guinea said we can easily, but too lazy for us.
    1. Professor
      Professor 5 September 2015 19: 40 New
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      Quote: Termit1309
      Well, yes, India, too, is struts and beautiful decorations on our fighter is going to do. Why are you cooler?

      Glad for the Indians. Gather, well, let them gather. We are doing wings on the F-35 and other nyashki.

      Quote: Termit1309
      and you that partners? Such "partners" as Lesha Gorbunkova for the trunk and to the museum.

      Very clever saying. The main topic and with deep meaning. wassat

      Quote: Termit1309
      Yes, you were denied engine supplies, and you shut up. Without an engine from F-15,16, Lavi cannot be built.

      Who refused? On what engines did Lavi fly? What engines did kfir fly on? What was the closure of the Lavi program? Who specifically closed it?

      Quote: Termit1309
      If so technically competent, find an analogue other than Russian or State.

      What engine was Lavi designed for?

      Quote: Termit1309
      And every year they give you poverty. So that they obeyed and ate porridge.

      If we have 3 billion in poverty, then what do you call the 94 billion that you received? wink

      Quote: Termit1309
      And some Alef recently said that the Arabs did not make rockets for a long time, but they bought ready-made hailstones and tornadoes in Libya. Russians have not otherwise violated Libyan statehood so that rockets appear on the black market

      And giving Vasya in the garage says that ...

      Quote: Termit1309
      And Luxenburg did not want to. And Papua New Guinea said we can easily, but too lazy for us.

      Germany has many technologically advanced homelands of elephants, and even richer and the only reason why it does not have its own launch vehicle is the lack of desire.
  38. Termit1309
    Termit1309 6 September 2015 08: 58 New
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    Quote: Professor
    If we have 3 billion in poverty, then what do you call the 94 billion that you received?

    In addition to your words, is there somewhere else information on the allocation of this amount as financial assistance to the Russian Federation?

    Who refused? On what engines did Lavi fly? What engines did kfir fly on? What was the closure of the Lavi program? Who specifically closed it?
    Both that and that on American.
    Cabinet of Ministers of Israel. Do you know those?
    1. Professor
      Professor 6 September 2015 09: 11 New
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      Quote: Termit1309
      In addition to your words, is there somewhere else information on the allocation of this amount as financial assistance to the Russian Federation?

      Of course have. Will the Kremlin press service suit you? wink
      http://www.ey.com/Publication/vwLUAssets/2013-Russia-attractiveness-survey-Eng/$

      FILE / 2013-Russia-attractiveness-survey-Eng.pdf


      Quote: Termit1309
      Both that and that on American.

      Who refused?
      What engines did Lavi fly on? What engine was it designed for?
      What engines did kfir fly on? Whose production?
      What was the closure of the Lavi program?
      Who specifically closed it?