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MFA of Ukraine: There are no grounds for the Russian Federation to apply its jurisdiction on the territory of Ukraine

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The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine commented on the statement of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation that the international law and legislation of the country allow the Russian office to investigate criminal cases of war crimes in the Donbass.




“The statements of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation once again cause outrage in Ukraine - they have nothing in common either with international law, or with reality or common sense. There are no grounds for the Russian Federation to apply its jurisdiction on the territory of Ukraine, except for the investigation of the crime of aggression, which is carried out by Russia against our state, ”reports the Ukrainian agency RIA "News".

According to the Ukrainian side, such an investigation can only be carried out against the top military and political leadership of the Russian Federation, and it is the Russian authorities who are responsible for numerous destruction and casualties among the peaceful population of Donbass.

International humanitarian law stipulates that countries are obliged to find and bring to justice those responsible for serious violations of the Geneva Conventions from 1949, as well as additional protocols I and II to them from 1977, or in any way involved in war crimes . Prosecution of such persons and their extradition for trial in the territory of another state should also be carried out.

The statement of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine was commented by the official representative of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation Vladimir Markin:

We understand, though without sympathy, the personnel problems of the department in Kiev, which is trying to fulfill the duties of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. The study of international conventions aimed at preventing genocide and other war crimes is, indeed, difficult for those who build their careers solely on the possession of the sovereign movement, which eliminates the need for any more knowledge.

We know that in the next version of the “state power” there is no distinction between “war crimes” and “war crimes”, which is in the official languages ​​of all civilized countries. Apparently, this is also a problem of the perception of its procedural status of the “sovereign elite”. At the same time, I would like to remind the staff of the Kiev misunderstanding that ignorance of international laws does not exempt from responsibility, and also that the Foreign Minister of the Nazi regime, von Ribbentrop, was hanged by the Nuremberg Tribunal as a war criminal. The fact that such a tribunal for war crimes in the Donbass will take place and the evidence collected by the TFR will form the basis of a harsh sentence - there is no doubt.
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  1. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 4 September 2015 09: 53 New
    +15
    Have dill got its opinion? What a news! For them the FSB ambassador thinks and decides.
    1. djqnbdjqnb
      djqnbdjqnb 4 September 2015 09: 55 New
      +13
      Is Donetsk and Lugansk regions Ukraine?
      1. Roman1970
        Roman1970 4 September 2015 09: 59 New
        +24
        Quote: djqnbdjqnb
        Is Donetsk and Lugansk regions Ukraine?

        Well, if de jure, then yes. And if de facto, then the local bolts put on this "de jure". laughing
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 4 September 2015 10: 36 New
          +9
          Quote: Roman1970
          Quote: djqnbdjqnb
          Is Donetsk and Lugansk regions Ukraine?

          Well, if de jure, then yes. And if de facto, then the local bolts put on this "de jure". laughing

          By the way, de jure it is still the USSR ...
          1. Hon
            Hon 4 September 2015 10: 58 New
            -5
            Does the USSR still exist?
            1. meriem1
              meriem1 4 September 2015 11: 34 New
              +2
              Quote: Hon
              Does the USSR still exist?

              Not. just regulatory acts need sometimes to be interested. The border is not demarcated. This is already an occasion to talk about the right bank of the Dnieper! Then there was a referendum, if you remember ... Forgotten, but 300% legitimate, It’s strange for an adult to not understand this.
              1. Hon
                Hon 4 September 2015 17: 45 New
                0
                Are you sure the border is not demarcated? it seems like there is a border agreement, from 2004. But what about the referendum? it was not enough, the countries making up the USSR decided to exit, that’s all.
              2. Hon
                Hon 4 September 2015 17: 46 New
                0
                by the way there was a referendum in Tatarstan on secession from the Russian Federation, it can also be remembered. but Tatarstan is still part of the Russian Federation
      2. Tanais
        Tanais 4 September 2015 10: 04 New
        +15
        Quote: djqnbdjqnb
        Is Donetsk and Lugansk regions Ukraine?



        Not even that ...

        The “State”, having corrected all conceivable and not conceivable norms of International Law and common sense, appeals to them ...
      3. WKS
        WKS 4 September 2015 10: 25 New
        0
        Quote: djqnbdjqnb
        Is Donetsk and Lugansk regions Ukraine?

        But Ukraine itself is it Dill?
        1. go21zd45few
          go21zd45few 4 September 2015 10: 57 New
          +8
          Regarding the Crimea, the question is solved simply, Mr. Kravchuk, you were 1 president of Ukraine and
          At present, we are most glad for the return of Crimea to Ukraine. The question is, on which
          Based on the original Russian territory was given to Ukraine, where the confirmation act on
          the transfer of the Republic of Crimea to Ukraine, approved by the Supreme Council of the RSFSR and the USSR, at which Congress of People's Deputies of the USSR this question was resolved, there will be no answer and there will be no answer since Khrushchev, the Ukrainian himself gave Ukraine Crimea from the shoulder of the shoulder in exchange for the silence of the Kiev Central Committee of the Communist Party on participation Khrushchev in the Stalinist repression. So sit on w ... red, Russia has regained what it had belonged to for centuries.
      4. Alexey Boukin
        Alexey Boukin 4 September 2015 11: 49 New
        +1
        Sheer cynical lie !!! Although all this has long been practiced in Ukraine, shifting from a sore head to a healthy one.
    2. Andrea
      Andrea 4 September 2015 10: 04 New
      +3
      Quote: oleg-gr
      Have dill got its opinion? What a news! For them the FSB ambassador thinks and decides.
      Is this opinion just another air shock. If you yourself do not want to investigate anything (you can’t, fear etc.), someone should punish for real crimes and not switchmen, but real ghouls.
    3. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 4 September 2015 10: 07 New
      +3
      oleg-gr
      Have dill got its opinion? What a news

      Interesting ... and these legislators of CAVE BEHAVIOR AND THINKING are ready to say the same about the law enforcement practice of their owners?
      According to the Ukrainian side, such an investigation can only be conducted in relation to the highest military and political leadership of the Russian Federation

      But the Yankos can capture citizens of other countries anywhere in the world ... bomb cities and civilians ... overthrow the legally elected leaders of other countries ... conduct shameless surveillance of the top leaders of the allies ... EXACTLY ON THIS WAY AND THE DRIVERS FOLLOW ....
      In contrast to this practice of the world gendarme and their followers, WINE OF RUSSIA ONLY WHEN SENDING HUMANITARIAN CONVOYS, WE JUST DO NOT GIVE PEOPLE DIE!
    4. Момент
      Момент 4 September 2015 10: 09 New
      +4
      They are afraid of dill. Because the crime is only documented by Russia, and in which direction the wind will blow in the coming years is unknown. And so the criminals are there.
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 4 September 2015 10: 24 New
        +1
        Afraid of this junta! Therefore, they will hold on to their teeth with power ...... Nobody is forgotten, nothing is forgotten and there is no statute of limitations!
    5. Finches
      Finches 4 September 2015 10: 16 New
      +5
      Ukraine generally has no jurisdiction! Ukraine, this is just the US Reich Commissariat! Moreover, as with the Reich, the Germans, and now the Americans, consider Ukraine, not as some kind of state formation, but just as territory! Ukraine has its own Gauleiter - Ambassador Payette. Therefore, what can we talk about here ???
    6. little girl15
      little girl15 4 September 2015 10: 36 New
      0
      For Banderstan, the law is that the drawbar is where the Chief Baboon will say there and jump.
    7. self-propelled
      self-propelled 4 September 2015 10: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: oleg-gr
      Have dill got its opinion? What a news! For them the FSB ambassador thinks and decides.

      your opinion ?! wassat where can he come from ?! "everyone has already stolen before us" - as the famous movie hero used to say. I’ll slightly reshoot the famous phrase - everyone has already decided for us (the motto of the inhabitants of Ukraine)!
      ambassador ... sha and thinks, and decides, and trades in Ukraine without taking into account the opinions of Ukrainians
      1. Curculum
        Curculum 4 September 2015 11: 33 New
        0
        Quote: self-propelled
        everyone has already decided for us

        Both phrases refer to dill, so - you can combine: "Everything has already been decided and stolen for us."
    8. EGOrkka
      EGOrkka 4 September 2015 10: 53 New
      +1
      Rostov Garrison Court .... will not give anyone its competencies! laughing
  2. Roman1970
    Roman1970 4 September 2015 09: 53 New
    +4
    and it is the Russian authorities that are responsible
    Everything, nothing else is needed. On anyone, but not in Ukraine. And besides, she (Ukraine) always must all. Interestingly, such rhetoric (heresy) will ever change, and what needs to be done for this?
    1. shultc
      shultc 4 September 2015 10: 18 New
      +1
      Interestingly, such rhetoric (heresy) will ever change, and what needs to be done for this?

      It will change when the flag of New Russia is raised above Ukraine’s Rada. They will sing in a different way: it’s not us or they’re children, but by and large, while America is dictating, they will persecute Russia.
    2. Lukich
      Lukich 4 September 2015 10: 27 New
      +2
      Quote: Roman1970
      Interestingly, such rhetoric (heresy) will ever change, and what needs to be done for this?

      never. it is already at the genetic level. they come to Russia and here we owe them
  3. vovanpain
    vovanpain 4 September 2015 09: 54 New
    +10
    The Nuremberg Tribunal has long been waiting for its clients ukrofashistov and the junta, as well as their patrons from overseas and European capitals. The sentence can be only one-the highest measure.
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 4 September 2015 09: 55 New
    +3
    If you do not go into the intricacies of international law, then all the same, I am 100% sure of the competence of the Russian investigating authorities, unlike Ukrainian ones. By the way, they (Ukrainian) would open their mouths to Russia less, and take up their internal problems, which are higher than the roof.
  5. zanoza
    zanoza 4 September 2015 09: 56 New
    +4
    Strange (in relation to Kiev - ordinary) position of dill. There is no war with Russia, not declared, but aggression on her part, with the "seizure of Ukrainian territories" - there is. So there are Russian troops (from 6 thousand to 200 thousand, depending on the exacerbation of brain disease, and 500 tanks each enter, then exit ..., and SU-shki in the sky of Donbass seem ...), then they are not. Ushlopki, you will understand the "concepts" of war and peace.
    And for the death of people in the Donbass and destruction, answer in full. The time will come!
  6. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 4 September 2015 09: 57 New
    +2
    "... it is the Russian authorities that bear responsibility for the numerous destruction and casualties among the civilian population of Donbass."

    What is it ?
    1. B.T.V.
      B.T.V. 4 September 2015 10: 00 New
      +2
      Quote: iliitch
      "... it is the Russian authorities that bear responsibility for the numerous destruction and casualties among the civilian population of Donbass."

      What is it ?


      Another aggravation, autumn has come, however.
    2. Roman1970
      Roman1970 4 September 2015 10: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: iliitch
      "... it is the Russian authorities that bear responsibility for the numerous destruction and casualties among the civilian population of Donbass."

      What is it ?

      Apparently, a certain diagnosis ... But I'm not a psychiatrist, let the doctors do this ...
  7. Prussian
    Prussian 4 September 2015 09: 58 New
    +4
    The winners will interpret the Geneva Convention, and I believe that all of these already aged Turchinovs, Beletskys and the rest Yatsynyuk will be pulled out of bed around the world and judged at best.
    1. Tanais
      Tanais 4 September 2015 10: 23 New
      0
      Quote: PRUSSAC
      The winners will interpret the Geneva Convention, and I believe that all of these already aged Turchinovs, Beletskys and the rest Yatsynyuk will be pulled out of bed around the world and judged at best.



      This is how much time do you give the junta so that Biletsky, who is only 36, is old?
      1. meriem1
        meriem1 4 September 2015 15: 16 New
        0
        Quote: Tanais
        Quote: PRUSSAC
        The winners will interpret the Geneva Convention, and I believe that all of these already aged Turchinovs, Beletskys and the rest Yatsynyuk will be pulled out of bed around the world and judged at best.



        This is how much time do you give the junta so that Biletsky, who is only 36, is old?


        Where and who knows what and how? Where is the guarantee that the cartridge is no longer in the barrel and that the bastards are alive, it’s just a delay, so that I don’t have to answer later for the PA. Remember Israel and Massad! This is CORRECT. Blood is bad! Blood killers is very good!
  8. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 4 September 2015 10: 00 New
    +3
    "The responsibility for the destruction in the Donbass lies with Russia."
    This is the logic: Ukraine has introduced its armed forces, which fire at the settlements of Donbass, and this is not the fault of those who used weapons against their own population, but the neighbors. De-b-ly.
  9. wild
    wild 4 September 2015 10: 03 New
    +2
    If you still send special forces to catch especially odious figures and trial them, there will be no price at all, and if you also eliminate dogs like Pastor and Valtsman, a monument during your life in the hero’s homeland
  10. sl22277
    sl22277 4 September 2015 10: 04 New
    +4
    Why should Russia be held accountable for the destruction and killings committed by the Kiev Junta ?! There are no Russian troops in the Donbass. Perhaps the most beloved tale of the Ukrainian authorities about “Russian aggression”. Indeed, thanks to her, you can not be held responsible for the consequences, but simply blame the blame for what is happening on the territory of "Independent" on someone else. Meanwhile, to distract the Ukrainians from really important problems, because while people think that there is an external adversary, they are ready to forgive all the ugliness that is happening inside the country.
  11. Karayakupovo
    Karayakupovo 4 September 2015 10: 05 New
    +2
    Guys. Winter will come soon too. The Russian bear has a thick skin. But how tseyupropeytsy without gas and coal of this bear winter, the question is open.
  12. samoletil18
    samoletil18 4 September 2015 10: 09 New
    +2
    Is dill scary?
  13. Kosta153
    Kosta153 4 September 2015 10: 11 New
    +1
    Quote: Karayakupovo
    Guys. Winter will come soon too. The Russian bear has a thick skin. But how tseyupropeytsy without gas and coal of this bear winter, the question is open.
    As in the past we wintered, so this is wintered. Business is business ...
  14. Polite Moose
    Polite Moose 4 September 2015 10: 11 New
    +2
    Yeah! Let them tell the amers about the absence of any grounds for the US to exercise its jurisdiction in the territory of "__________" (insert any country).
  15. Alexnder
    Alexnder 4 September 2015 10: 12 New
    +3
    Dill comrades, in your statement, replace the phrase "Russian Federation" with the United States, and you will be miraculously surprised that you can !!
  16. anderles66
    anderles66 4 September 2015 10: 15 New
    +1
    Yes, really curious. Actually refer to an act of aggression, but not legally recognize it, it must be a great lawyer. I do not like to extol jurisprudence, but there are things that are designated as “common sense,” which dill has not had for a long time, but which I wish for everyone. wassat
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  18. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 4 September 2015 10: 35 New
    +1
    White book of atrocities of the Ukrainian junta! Now we will not be silent
  19. X Y Z
    X Y Z 4 September 2015 10: 43 New
    +1
    Nervous. The thought that suddenly, in which case, it will not be possible to reach Boryspil, is nevertheless constantly disturbing and unnerving. And suddenly you still have to answer for everything done.
  20. roskot
    roskot 4 September 2015 10: 44 New
    +1
    There is an autumn aggravation in Dill. The freebie is over, Russia is to blame.
    1. twincam
      twincam 4 September 2015 11: 16 New
      0
      Well, of course)))
      Hands of the Kremlin, bloody gebnya)))
      Armored armada and hordes of paratroopers invade the territory of the independent)))))
  21. Pomah
    Pomah 4 September 2015 10: 47 New
    0
    it would be better to say right away how much we owe them now, taking into account today)))
  22. raid14
    raid14 4 September 2015 11: 20 New
    +1
    What, what, and GWP of the country 404, managed to send the summons to the head of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Russia VV Gerasimov to testify in the case "Aggression of the Russian Armed Forces against Ukraine".
  23. vladimirw
    vladimirw 4 September 2015 11: 20 New
    +1
    "There are no grounds for the Russian Federation to apply its jurisdiction in Ukraine, except for the investigation of the crime of aggression, which is carried out by Russia against our state,"
    aren’t there really no people in our leadership with common sense that, after such statements, send all trade with the ruin into a tough relationship? MONEY forwards
  24. press officer
    press officer 4 September 2015 11: 32 New
    0
    Quote: go21zd45few
    Regarding the Crimea, the question is solved simply, Mr. Kravchuk, you were 1 president of Ukraine and
    At present, we are most glad for the return of Crimea to Ukraine. The question is, on which
    Based on the original Russian territory was given to Ukraine, where the confirmation act on
    the transfer of the Republic of Crimea to Ukraine, approved by the Supreme Council of the RSFSR and the USSR, at which Congress of People's Deputies of the USSR this question was resolved, there will be no answer and there will be no answer since Khrushchev, the Ukrainian himself gave Ukraine Crimea from the shoulder of the shoulder in exchange for the silence of the Kiev Central Committee of the Communist Party on participation Khrushchev in the Stalinist repression. So sit on w ... red, Russia has regained what it had belonged to for centuries.


    In general, we can all return exactly on the map to places! soldier
  25. Alekseir162
    Alekseir162 4 September 2015 11: 53 New
    0
    According to the Ukrainian side, such an investigation can only be conducted in relation to the highest military and political leadership of the Russian Federation

    It would be nice for the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry to refresh its memory by recalling the fate of the Nazi leaders in Germany. What did these leaders end up with, there is no need to remind, yes, and it was only recently (by historical standards).
  26. nekot
    nekot 4 September 2015 12: 10 New
    0
    Markin well done, he answered normally - that he didn’t consider them to be responsible and that they would all go to the tribunal, and especially they would be in the loop)
  27. iouris
    iouris 4 September 2015 13: 12 New
    0
    The grounds may appear after the recognition of the Bialowieza Pact as criminal by the representatives of the Russian Federation, Belarus and Ukraine in Belovezhskaya Pushcha.
  28. am808s
    am808s 4 September 2015 15: 30 New
    0
    When, after the trial of the Kiev “Ribentrops,” they will hang up anyway, they will not admit their guilt. They’re not adequate anymore. Penguins squeezed them with foam at the mouth and feed them irresponsibly. So it’s useless to judge them, except for science like that.
  29. Severok
    Severok 4 September 2015 22: 33 New
    0
    ... We are sympathetic, although without sympathy, to the personnel problems of the department in Kiev trying to fulfill the duties of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Studying international conventions aimed at the prevention of genocide and other war crimes is really difficult for figures who build careers solely in the possession of “sovereign mob”, which eliminates the need for any more knowledge ...

    Bravo to Markin! So them, nose, into their own guano !!!