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US will not be able to "punish" the Russian military-industrial complexOn Wednesday, the US authorities intend to publish a black list of Russian defense companies - this time they impose sanctions "in connection with Iran, the DPRK and Syria." Rosoboronexport and MiG Corporation are mentioned in the list. The United States exploits the political environment to neutralize competitors, but the defense industry does not consider itself to be affected. MFA promises "retaliatory and not necessarily" mirror "measures."


The US government will impose sanctions against a number of Russian defense companies. The reason this time was not the events in Ukraine, but alleged violations of the law on nuclear non-proliferation weapons “In connection with Iran, the DPRK and Syria”.

The document, which is to be officially published on Wednesday, is already available for preview on the website of the governmental bulletin of the Federal Register.

According to the information it contains, the black list includes the Tula Instrument Engineering Design Bureau, Katod, NPO Mashinostroyenia, MiG Corporation, Rosoboronexport. The sanctions also apply to their "successors, divisions and subsidiaries," the document says.

The US authorities claim that Russian companies were allegedly involved in the transfer to Iran, the DPRK and Syria, or the acquisition from these countries of goods, services and technologies from "multilateral export control lists" that could make a significant contribution to the development of weapons of mass destruction.

According to the spokesman for the US Embassy in Moscow, William Stevens, “these organizations came under sanctions based on reliable information that they were involved in transferring or purchasing from these countries goods, services and technologies listed in the multilateral export control lists and national control lists. US lists, as well as other items that could make a significant contribution to the development of weapons of mass destruction. ” Thus, according to Stevens, no agency department of the US government can acquire products or enter into transactions with these organizations, provide assistance to these companies, and also sell them items from the US Munitions List.

Only with the personal sanction of the Secretary of State


The notice posted on behalf of the US Department of State explains that, henceforth, US Government ministries and departments will be prohibited from entering into any procurement contracts with companies on the sanctions list and providing them with any material support and assistance. Exceptions can be made only with the personal sanction of the US Secretary of State, noted Tass. It is also forbidden to sell military black goods to companies from the blacklist of the US government.

Earlier deals for the sale of goods and services falling under the US export control law are broken. Licenses for such transactions are prohibited from now on. Measures remain in force for two years, unless the deadline is changed by the decision of the Secretary of State.

The agency responsible for this document is the US Department of State. “It was decided that a number of foreign structures are involved in actions that imply additional measures under part of the 3 th non-proliferation law in connection with Iran, North Korea and Syria,” the notification says.

It also stresses that this law "provides for penalties for foreign companies and individuals for deliveries to Iran, Syria and the DPRK, as well as for the acquisition of goods, services and technologies therein that fall under the (so-called) multilateral control lists." As noted, with regard to Iran, these norms are in effect from 1 January 1999 of the year, in Syria - from 1 January 2005 of the year, and in the DPRK - from 1 January of 2006.

Keywords: nuclear weapons, Iran, Rosoboronexport, sanctions, economic sanctions, military-industrial complex, defense enterprises, the United States and Russia
Along with this, new sanctions also affected companies from a number of other countries, in particular from China, Iran, Sudan, Syria, Turkey, and the United Arab Emirates.
"On the one hand, even happy"

Catod OJSC, which is producing optoelectronic transducers — the main components of night vision devices — stated that the enterprise will not suffer, since the US market plays a minor role in its operations. “It will not affect our economic indicators. We work with the countries of EurAsEC and BRICS, and recently a very large amount of production goes for the domestic market, for the Russian power structures, ”said the company's general director Vladimir Loktionov TASS.

According to Loktionov, the United States "is using the political environment to compete." “Before our appearance, they were monopolists in this market. On the one hand, we are even glad that this happened because we understand that we have reached a very high level in our technologies. So in Russia they can not only pump oil, but also do something that can compete with American companies, ”the general director added.

The head of the Department of Industry, Innovation and Entrepreneurship of Novosibirsk, Alexander Lyulko, explained the introduction of sanctions against Katod with a competitive struggle. “There are two such enterprises that develop fifth-generation electronic optical converters in the world: our Cathode and an American company. Moreover, “Cathode”, as far as I know, is now seriously pushing the American company, ”he said.

Lyulko noted that, according to the data sounded at the last meeting of the Presidium of the SB RAS, "Cathode" occupies a quarter of the market of the EOP in the US

“No dependence on the American market”


In JSC "MIC" NPO Mashinostroeniya "make similar forecasts. “These are not the first sanctions that are targeted against our company. Compared to last year, they bring nothing new. As we worked last year, we continue to work, ”a spokeswoman for the corporation told the VIEW newspaper.


What are the plans for the replacement of imported goods by Russian

The representative of the corporation "MiG" Anastasia Kravchenko also said that the current restrictions will not affect the work of the enterprise.
“These sanctions for our company and for our relations with partners are not critical. Our corporation uses its own technology, so the announced restrictions will not prevent the company from continuing to operate in the same mode, ”Kravchenko told the VIEW newspaper.

“At the moment, we are not dependent on the American market. There will be no casualties, ”she added.

"Measures, and not necessarily" mirror "


In response to another unfriendly move by Washington, the Russian Foreign Ministry said: “The expansion of sanctions lists (...) is not just another manifestation of the inability of the US administration to adequately assess what is happening in Ukraine. This is a reflection of the line that has taken root in the US ruling circles for the deliberate, consistent destruction of the basis for the normalization of Russian-American relations. ” In addition to the ongoing attempts to “build in” sanctions against Russian individuals and legal entities into the tragic cannon of what is happening in Ukraine, it announced the use of “illegitimate restriction in the framework of the current US legislation on Iran, Syria and the DPRK,” the Foreign Ministry said.

“We make sure again: Washington is not driven at all by concern for reducing tensions in hot spots, but by irritation with Russia's independent position on the world stage, the desire to“ punish ”us for rigorously upholding national interests, for the free choice of the inhabitants of Crimea and Sevastopol and thereby harm the Russian economy "- stressed in the Foreign Ministry. The same message emphasizes that Washington’s “reckless course” “causes growing concern even among the US allies” and not only “is fraught with serious costs for international stability”, but also “without a doubt, a boomerang will hit American interests.” “We emphasize: in the USA there should be no illusions about the possibility of continuing this line without negative consequences for oneself. The retaliatory measures, and not necessarily the “mirror” ones, will follow from our side, ”the statement says.

"Can play at hand"


“The continuation of the package of sanctions is not a surprise. Now we can say for sure that the cold war is going on, no matter how it camouflages, ”said Sergey Yermakov, head of the regional security problems sector at the Center for Defense Studies of the Russian Institute for Strategic Studies, at VZGLYAD.

He added that information motives for US sanctions "are always used the most diverse and even ridiculous. Russia exclusively observes everything related to arms control issues, especially in the nuclear sphere, and the Americans understand this perfectly well. Periodic claims about non-proliferation of nuclear weapons or the treaty on medium and shorter range missiles (INF) do not have any real ground and are designed to put Russia in a negative light, to justify those sanctions that the Americans already intend to impose, ”the expert said.

The US sanctions themselves are not so terrible, but “anti-Russian rhetoric is developing, which does not add stability or predictability to the international climate as a whole and does not strengthen international security,” the source said.
He pointed out that the United States imposes sanctions on those enterprises, cooperation with which they are not interested. But "there are enterprises that make engines, including rocket engines, which are put on American civilian missiles, there are also certain components that are produced in Russia, and American companies are interested in them, for example, the same Boeing" - they do not fall under these sanctions. Such a cynical approach, "- said the source.

The policy of sanctions puts pressure on the economy, but there are no direct real consequences from the new sanctions wave for enterprises, Ermakov added. “The Russian leadership is doing everything possible to switch to its own resources or to look for other suppliers,” the expert said. He explained that each case with the purchase of components is individual, but "all this is solved." “Of course, not immediately, it requires investments and power, but maybe it will play into the hands and raise the domestic industry,” the expert concluded.

"Ready for an economic war"


Vasily Kashin, an expert of the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, agrees with Yermakov. The US sanctions, in his opinion, "have become quite an expected technical measure, to which everyone has become accustomed." “I don’t think that the companies mentioned in the list of sanctions will have significant problems because of this, because they existed long ago under the constant threat of sanctions and even partial sanctions,” said Kashin to VIEW.

The interviewee noted that “problems with the purchase of equipment and components from Russian defense enterprises began a long time ago, they fully manifested themselves with the onset of the Ukrainian crisis and were in some private matters even earlier.” The expert explained that earlier (“and since 90’s, this история it continues uninterruptedly ”) then one or another Russian enterprise fell under some kind of American sanctions for military-technical cooperation with Iran, nevertheless it has not been interrupted in recent years, even after the imposition of sanctions by the Security Council it continued in areas where is allowed. “There are quite a few of these areas,” the expert emphasized.

US pays a big price


As world military spending grows


Kashin noted that "the actions of the United States have not added a positive effect to our relations, but the United States has been doing this for many decades now." At the same time, the United States themselves for such a policy “pay a rather high price,” the expert emphasized. He explained that if you have the choice of buying American or non-American equipment and components, then all other things being equal, you will always strive to choose non-American.
“Just because you know that America loves to play in an economic war and at any moment something can turn so that you yourself, without suspecting it, will fall under certain sanctions - it may not even be due to your actions, with the actions of your counterparty, the resale of your equipment, ”the expert explained. This example is followed by many other developing countries, particularly China. “For this reason, Americans are already losing the Chinese civilian aircraft market, and many other high-tech markets are losing out to the Japanese and Europeans. It should be understood that any technological dependence on the United States is a risk, it should always be avoided, even if everything is working fine at the moment, ”the expert emphasized.

He recalled that “the United States views economic war as the main component of foreign policy. When any contradictions arise, the first thing they think about is the imposition of sanctions, sometimes even on close countries. So do not be substituted, "- said Kashin. If earlier we had illusions that a final break with the West is impossible, they themselves will not want to suffer losses, now it is clear that all this is “complete nonsense. When making any decision, it is necessary to consider such a component as an economic war that the United States is waging against us and will wage for decades to come. How she will take a turn, what they decide to take a step at one stage or another, you do not know, everyone should measure the risk, ”said the source.

Since the blacklisted companies have long cooperated with Iran, supplied something to it, sanctions in some private areas may worsen their situation, but in general, it is unlikely that something will change, the expert believes. Answering the question why these enterprises fell under sanctions, Kashin explained that in recent years, even under sanctions, we had several large projects with Iran, in particular, the delivery of anti-tank Kornet missile systems, various types of electronic warfare systems, in the modernization of the Iranian air defense systems. “These are all areas that are allowed to cooperate with the sanctions regime imposed by Security Council resolution 1929. We didn’t break anything with this, but from the US point of view there could be a violation, ”the expert noted.
He added that there may be smaller projects that we don’t know about in the media, for example someone put a machine to someone, and then the Americans came to the conclusion that it is used in a rocket program. Either someone provided any advisory services - it is generally very difficult to verify, the Americans somehow traced them and came to the conclusion.

And again "in connection with the situation in Ukraine"


In addition, it became known that "The Bureau of Industry and Security (under the US Department of Commerce) changes the rules for controlling export regulations by blacklisting 29 companies" from Russia, the document says, which will also be published on the website of the Federal Register. This time, sanctions are imposed against Russia in connection with the situation in Ukraine. As emphasized in the document, "this is done because the US government has decided that they are acting in opposition to national security or the interests of the United States foreign policy."

This step is also more technical and, in effect, fixes the sanctions that Washington has already imposed at the end of July against a number of individuals and companies. In particular, it dealt with structures related to businessmen Boris Rotenberg, Gennady Timchenko (as well as the Rosneft concern) registered in Russia, Crimea, Ukraine, Cyprus, Finland, Romania, Switzerland and the United Kingdom.

The list of


The EU countries, the USA and Canada introduced the first package of sanctions against Russia last spring, which was later expanded. In response, Russia in August 2014 introduced retaliatory sanctions that spread to the products of the agro-industrial sector from the United States, EU states, Canada, Australia and Norway.
In particular, the United States since 1 August 2014, has banned the supply of equipment for deep-sea exploration and production of oil, work in the Arctic and shale oil fields in Russia. In September, the sanctions were tightened: it was also forbidden to provide services for such projects. The United States indicated specific recipients of such sanctions: Gazprom, Gazprom Neft, Rosneft, LUKOIL and Surgutneftegas.

In late July, 2015, the US Treasury Department announced the introduction of sanctions against 11 individuals and 15 legal entities. Among the defendants of the list, in particular, the Russian businessman Roman Rotenberg and the son of the former President of Ukraine, Alexander Yanukovych. The list also includes the Izhevsk Mechanical Plant, the Izhmash concern, a number of commercial ports in the Crimea, and subsidiaries of VEB and Rosneft. 7 August, the United States extended its industry-wide sanctions against the Russian economy to the Yuzhno-Kirinskoye oil and gas field in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk.

Rosneft regarded the US sanctions as revenge for Russia's vote on Boeing. The US itself explained the expansion of the blacklist with attempts by companies to circumvent sanctions.
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  1. Stranger03
    Stranger03 4 September 2015 14: 49 New
    +12
    It’s time for the United States to impose sanctions against the whole world at once, laughing
    1. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 4 September 2015 14: 58 New
      +8
      The US authorities claim that Russian companies were allegedly involved in the transfer to Iran, the DPRK and Syria, or the acquisition from these countries of goods, services and technologies from "multilateral export control lists" that could make a significant contribution to the development of weapons of mass destruction.

      It is time for them to punish companies that cooperate with state enterprises that use, I apologize for bored stamps, Russian materials in aviation and where else.
      Roscosmos is time to punish, carrying the US cosmonauts into orbit!
      Because then the developments are used for military purposes!
      Companies that supply states with engines for space,
      on which military satellites are launched into space!
      Why is the sanctioned “war” not being waged against these enterprises ?!
      1. Borets
        Borets 4 September 2015 15: 03 New
        +2
        Let them push, maybe get around ..
        1. Temples
          Temples 4 September 2015 15: 31 New
          +2
          Exceptions may be made only with the personal approval of the US Secretary of State


          So Kerry needs to be rolled back and everything is fine? laughing
          Did the kid hold on? wassat
          1. djqnbdjqnb
            djqnbdjqnb 4 September 2015 16: 08 New
            0
            Pr.idu.rki, they would have to think about how to save their economy, how to save NATO from collapse, and they would again impose sanctions ... Then they themselves will ask each other: “How could we do this ?!”
          2. Inok10
            Inok10 4 September 2015 19: 57 New
            +4
            Quote: Temples
            Exceptions may be made only with the personal approval of the US Secretary of State


            So Kerry needs to be rolled back and everything is fine? laughing
            Did the kid hold on? wassat

            .. soon the Secretary of State will need to be vacated .. according to this, Mr. Kerry decided not to waste time .. laughing
        2. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 4 September 2015 15: 53 New
          -3
          Plans — what will or will not be there in 2020 — are not particularly interesting. The military-industrial complex is lying on its side. It is unlikely that he is optimistic that he is also being kicked.
        3. NEXUS
          NEXUS 4 September 2015 19: 10 New
          +1
          Quote: Borets
          Let them push, maybe get around ..

      2. Dormidont2
        Dormidont2 4 September 2015 17: 51 New
        +6
        It is clear, of course, that the share of imports in our country, thanks to the liberal policies of NeDimon and Vovka, is large; For 15 years, they exported raw materials and imported imports, but now there’s nothing to import, one talk on TV, econ.forums - saving tigers, they again sit waiting for foreigners to come and build factories, not realizing that foreigners export profits in foreign currency, this will again fall the ruble - rise in prices and all over again. instead of building state factories of the factory ourselves (oligarchs do not want to build)
    2. Platonich
      Platonich 4 September 2015 19: 09 New
      0
      ... and so they crap from it !!!!
  2. meriem1
    meriem1 4 September 2015 14: 50 New
    +5
    According to the spokesman for the US Embassy in Moscow, William Stevens, “these organizations came under sanctions based on reliable information that they were involved in transferring or purchasing from these countries goods, services and technologies listed in the multilateral export control lists and national control lists. US lists, as well as other items that could make a significant contribution to the development of weapons of mass destruction. ” Thus, according to Stevens, no agency department of the US government can acquire products or enter into transactions with these organizations, provide assistance to these companies, and also sell them items from the US Munitions List.


    It is necessary to declare such "DOERS" person NON GRANT. Lose nefig. Maybe they’ll open their mouth less often ... And it already stinks ...
  3. Mother Theresa
    Mother Theresa 4 September 2015 15: 01 New
    +8
    More recently, they wrote a request for the supply of spare parts and maintenance of booster compressors made in the USA. And there is an interesting request system in English, an answer in Russian. Ask why, and then so that manufacturers in the USA, if dragged to court, say that they don’t understand Russian or that we didn’t understand his request correctly and gave the wrong answer. And in the request, the question is whether our equipment will be used in the Crimea and who is the shareholder of your enterprise. Shareholder Gazprom and Fotrum and small owners. So Gazprom wrote
    in Russian, and Fortum in English, and as a result, they realized that our shareholder is the international energy company Fortum.
  4. sl22277
    sl22277 4 September 2015 15: 02 New
    +2
    Do not intimidate Russia with sanctions. They only benefit the country. You just need to stop stealing and squandering. Need to develop your own!
    1. marlin1203
      marlin1203 4 September 2015 15: 45 New
      +2
      Stop stealing?! What country are you in, excuse me, live in? what
      1. ferdiperdozzz
        ferdiperdozzz 5 September 2015 21: 16 New
        0
        In any country. Or do you think that they steal only in Russia?
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  5. kil 31
    kil 31 4 September 2015 15: 04 New
    +1
    restrictions will not affect the operation of the enterprise. They all say this, but forget about their accounts.“Provides for penalties for foreign companies and individuals for supplyand probably already immediately ran to transfer money from striped banks.
  6. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 4 September 2015 15: 15 New
    +3
    Small dirty tricks.
  7. rf xnumx
    rf xnumx 4 September 2015 15: 29 New
    +9
    US will not be able to "punish" the Russian military-industrial complex
  8. 31rus
    31rus 4 September 2015 15: 31 New
    +6
    Well, how much can you bring nonsense? If both the president and the prime minister and other independent experts say that sanctions harm our economy, no one argues, we are obliged to develop our business especially in strategic areas, and America itself imports 30-40% of components in the field of electronics to put it simply, we are all “tied up”, it’s another matter where you need and you can do it and do it better, cheaper, then you can talk about serious import substitution, while only the words or show those industries where the dependence was minimal or not critical
  9. udincev
    udincev 4 September 2015 15: 46 New
    +4
    “Once again, we are convinced that Washington is not driven by concern for reducing tensions in hot spots, but by irritation with Russia's independent position on the world stage, the desire to“ punish ”us for rigorous upholding of national interests
    That is true. By direct text or between lines, but with a red line. And then you see "Ukraine, Iran, North Korea ...". Ugh on ...
  10. tyras85
    tyras85 4 September 2015 16: 01 New
    +6
    Quote: sl22277
    Do not intimidate Russia with sanctions. They only benefit the country. You just need to stop stealing and squandering. Need to develop your own!

    Very true on business! Add and plant for theft at dense REAL terms.
    1. Mama_Cholli
      Mama_Cholli 4 September 2015 16: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: tyras85
      Quote: sl22277
      Do not intimidate Russia with sanctions. They only benefit the country. You just need to stop stealing and squandering. Need to develop your own!

      Very true on business! Add and plant for theft at dense REAL terms.

      This does not fail ... In the government, and even more so in the State Duma, many will be against it.
  11. 79807420129
    79807420129 4 September 2015 16: 08 New
    +8
    The smoked roof leaves completely. I won’t be surprised if he deduces sanctions against his wife.
  12. iouris
    iouris 4 September 2015 16: 16 New
    +4
    Charts show our critical import dependency. And how can one solve the problem of import substitution, when most of the single agricultural, industrial and transport complex of the USSR, enterprises possessing critical technologies, and intellectual resources were actually given to the enemy for that? Without rebuilding the country, this is hardly possible. But for this we need a project that people understand.
    1. 31rus
      31rus 4 September 2015 16: 22 New
      +1
      The project is one strong, independent, truly socially oriented state, here you have a project
  13. mamont5
    mamont5 4 September 2015 16: 19 New
    +1
    "the defense industry itself does not consider itself affected. The Foreign Ministry promises" retaliatory and not necessarily "mirror" measures "

    Yes, twist these "retaliatory measures" tightly so that life does not seem to honey to Amer. There are such fad as to catch the US tail.
  14. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 4 September 2015 16: 23 New
    +2
    It's time to implement your OS ...
    write: for the people, something is already working for the Sun.
    This will be a very good response.
    1. rosarioagro
      rosarioagro 4 September 2015 16: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: Mama_Cholli
      It's time to implement your OS.

      Which one? And then I have a domain controller raised on one of these, so the replication problems are constant
      1. Mama_Cholli
        Mama_Cholli 4 September 2015 17: 04 New
        0
        Linux kernel?

        Well, if the military gave their SIA to civilians, they also need access to the World Wide Web through their own door.
        Pisi: Any time to implement, so that people would cry from this crap window. Particularly pleasing to a dozen.
        Well done right for the NSA.
  15. 1536
    1536 4 September 2015 16: 28 New
    +5
    Maybe it's time to punish the United States ?!
    For example, there will be a real Russian system of bank cards, I’ll immediately change American to Russian. At least a dollar, even a ruble cannot be given to the Americans to destroy humanity. You look, these dollars and rubles will turn into billions, and the American economy will shrink, and the Americans will not have money to carry out the genocide! And there, and before the collapse of this devilish country is not far.
  16. duchy
    duchy 4 September 2015 16: 35 New
    +1
    I suggest that in order to lower the United States from heaven to sinful earth, it is enough to remove all the machines for printing bucks and destroy all the cliches. And no longer allow laughing
  17. Foul skeptic
    Foul skeptic 4 September 2015 16: 39 New
    0
    I will keep these charts for myself.
    1. starriuy
      starriuy 4 September 2015 22: 49 New
      +3
      I already saved ... That would be neighing in four years ...
  18. garhail
    garhail 4 September 2015 16: 40 New
    0
    Hmm-bl ... need to say all American companies "arevoir." But unfortunately, too much is being done in the USA and Co. Here is the fee for liberalism, i.e. worldwide division of labor. USSR was self-sufficient
  19. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 4 September 2015 16: 43 New
    0
    USA is a country of political adolescents. A unique case to be investigated by the notorious "English" or "British" scientists. Although this Frankenstein is framed exactly according to the model made by subjects of Her Majesty. Forgery, distortion of reality to a mirror (shines but does not warm), the continuous imposition of one’s own vision, bribery and sabotage instead of healthy competition (the imposition of sanctions) are “patterns of“ exceptional ”behavior on the world stage. Solid Satanism in the substitution of religiosity and piety is all that we have been striving for since the 80s?! No and no. This is not our way and not our "values" stop
  20. loaln
    loaln 4 September 2015 16: 48 New
    +1
    "If earlier we had illusions that a final break with the West was impossible, they themselves would not want to suffer losses, now it is clear that all this is" complete stupidity. "

    You can meet such a statement now quite often. What is it for? Are those who "rule" the Russian economy have seen their sight?
    But, here, something in the subconscious does not allow to come to this conclusion. No way.
    It's just that people for whom the coup d'etat of the 90s still remains a symbol of "Russia's desire for freedom" (from whom, for what?), By default are not capable of this completely logical step.
    So this is just mimicry. So, a tactical retreat. No more.
    A pity. There is negligible time for our people to become again not a cog, but an engine for the development of the country.
    A country that is native in name but alien in deeds instills in the CENTURY the absolute passivity of the individual’s enthusiasm for the sake of a common cause. And this for Russia is a failure in everything. And, as a result, telepathing in the wake of the "general line". But not his own. That completely disavows the so loud sounding and encouraging statement above.
  21. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 4 September 2015 17: 40 New
    +6
    So I want Russian business to understand once and for all that:
    1. The West will never allow Russia to develop and be independent.
    2. They consider Russia only as a colony.
    3. Business freedom is limited to the extent that this business damages Russia.
    4. As soon as Russia weakens, it will be destroyed, and if this happens, then
    5. you lose your business and become an empty place.
    This is American democracy, business freedom.
    If you still do not understand, look to the future p. 5
  22. shinobi
    shinobi 4 September 2015 17: 42 New
    -1
    The Yankees are doing very badly. Competitions cannot stand it, even weak. And it will only get worse.
  23. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 4 September 2015 19: 55 New
    +2
    "... but continued in areas where it is permitted."
    It is curious, AND WHO PERMISSES IT FOR US?
  24. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 4 September 2015 20: 51 New
    +3
    There is a suggestion: To put a modest condition for mattresses: your sanctions are damaging our budget in the amount of ... million (billion) dollars, so be quiet, guys, the price of RD-180 and the transportation of your "type of astronauts" to the ISS will increase interest on 250 -300. Nothing personal, just business ... Your phrase? laughing
    1. andj61
      andj61 4 September 2015 20: 58 New
      +2
      Quote: stock buildbat
      There is a suggestion: To put a modest condition for mattresses: your sanctions are damaging our budget in the amount of ... million (billion) dollars, so be quiet, guys, the price of RD-180 and the transportation of your "type of astronauts" to the ISS will increase interest on 250 -300. Nothing personal, just business ... Your phrase? laughing

      Two points:
      1. A contract was concluded with the Americans and this contract, as a country that respects its word, needs to be fulfilled before it is executed.
      2. Your proposals completely coincide with the opinion of McCain and other hawks, who believe that they need to immediately abandon Russian engines and throw all their strength and resources into creating American ones. Better, they say, a ship using THEM engines will fly a few years later, but the United States will not finance the Russian space industry. Do you think that in the end they will not create their own, no worse than ours? I am not at all sure of this.
      In addition, using our engines, they do not create their own. And if there is a great need, we can play this.
      1. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 4 September 2015 21: 16 New
        +2
        Create engines. I totally agree smile
        only they could not create a launch vehicle. So far, satellites are sending on a Werner von Braun created. So let them create it. In years through 5-7 they will not be up to rocket engines. It's scary to die
        1. andj61
          andj61 4 September 2015 21: 58 New
          0
          Quote: stock buildbat
          So far, satellites are sending on a Werner von Braun created.

          They have enough carriers. And engines are available on them. Ours is simply more effective.
          Currently, countries of the world in government programs and commercial launches are actively using more than 20 launch vehicles represented by 8 countries:
          in the light class: START 1 (RF), ROCOT (RF), COSMOS 3M (RF), CYCLONE 3 (RF-Ukraine), DNEPR (RF-Ukraine), SHAVIT (Israel), TAURUS (USA), MINOTAUR (USA) PEGASUS (USA);
          in the middle class: UNION (RF), ZENIT 2 M and ZENIT-3SL (RF-Ukraine), PSLV (India), M-5 (Japan), DELTA 2 (USA), CHANG ZHENG (China), GSLV (India) ;
          in the heavy class: ARIANE 5 (ЕКА-European Union), ATLAS 5 (USA), PROTON M (RF), H-IIA (Japan), DELTA 4 Heavy (USA).

          And created by von Brown, Saturn-5 is now not used to launch satellites. In general, its last launch was in 1973 - the Skyleb space station.
  25. Beaver
    Beaver 4 September 2015 21: 11 New
    +1
    WASHINGTON, September 2. / Corr. TASS Anton Chudakov, Andrey Shitov. US authorities decided to impose sanctions against a number of Russian companies, suspects by them in activities that run counter to the US non-proliferation law against Iran, North Korea and Syria.


    It is interesting that they would yell if they had evidence besides suspicion?
  26. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 4 September 2015 22: 37 New
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    If earlier we had illusions that a final break with the West was impossible, they themselves would not want to suffer losses, it is now clear that all this is “complete stupidity. When making any decision, it is necessary to consider such a component as the economic war that the USA is waging against us and will be waged for decades.

    It is a pity that thanks to our libes..alam, we have been feeding on these illusions for too long: some "illusionists" hurt their heads are not just about to arm our army with foreign equipment - they have stuttered about joining NATO! Now for the stupidity of the "illusionists" we are paying in a firefight dealing with issues of import substitution - the restoration of our production, ditched during the rampant shit democracy and fraternization with the West! And to restore - not to destroy! This will take YEARS of super-efforts of the whole country - after all, it is necessary to catch up with the leading world companies in a whole range of areas working in the field of arms from scratch! One can only hope that from this once and for all "relevant" conclusions will be drawn!
  27. burmundia
    burmundia 5 September 2015 01: 28 New
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    straight time machine! Thanks to the author, I plunged into the past. gygygygygygy
    1. tanit
      tanit 5 September 2015 04: 22 New
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      So tell us about the present? Or are you already in the distant, personally visible to you, future?
      Quote: burmundia
      straight time machine! Thanks to the author, I plunged into the past. gygygygygygy
  28. SPIKER
    SPIKER 5 September 2015 19: 33 New
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    Stand ... must !!!