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Military Parade in Beijing

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In honor of the 70 anniversary of the victory in World War II and the victory of China in the war of liberation against Japan, a large-scale military parade was held in the center of Beijing. It was attended by 16 thousands of military personnel, more than two hundred units of various military equipment, including new models.


For the first time, soldiers of Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Cuba, Serbia and other countries marched in a parade in the capital of the People's Republic of China. Among the guests of honor of the parade were President Vladimir Putin, UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, President of Egypt Al-Sisi, President of the Czech Republic Milos Zeman, President of South Korea Pak Geun-hye, President of Tajikistan Rakhmon, President of Uzbekistan Islam Karimov, President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko, etc. .

The guests of the solemn ceremony expressed the words of admiration for the colorful and at the same time impressive presentation. Chinese media also describe vivid performances on Tiananmen Square exclusively in excellent colors. From the material of the People's Daily:
The powerful and calm breath of the parade in Beijing - as the main core of all the festivities - has been transmitted to hundreds of millions of people all over the planet. They are inspired by the confidence that the world not only has a chance for progressive development, but also serious guarantees that a new world catastrophe will not break out, which, as everyone knows, began with the aggression of the Japanese militarists in Asia and here in Asia, ended in defeat.


The main questions were caused by the statement of the PRC Chairman Xi Jinping on the preparation for the reduction of the PLA by 300 of thousands of people, which he did by speaking at Tiananmen. The official mouthpiece of the Chinese Communist Party explains the reason for such a move. From the material "People's Daily":
The large-scale reduction of the army, undertaken at the time by Deng Xiaoping, led to the creation of a new page in China’s economic construction. Thus, on what grounds is the reduction of the number of the Chinese army announced by Xi Jinping based? What is the significance of this step? From the traditional perspective of the CPC, military reform and disarmament, troop reductions go hand in hand. Only the presence of "selected troops" will be able to increase the combat capability of the army, but "selected troops" also mean a reduction in the number of the army.


In the Western media, they noted that the statement of the PRC Chairman is a signal to the West. - A signal that the Chinese army "will be reduced quantitatively, but at the same time grow qualitatively."

Photos of Chinese media:





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  1. oldav
    oldav 3 September 2015 13: 33 New
    +7
    I wonder if the USSR did not send troops into China, what would happen to this territory? I doubt that the Americans would have entered there.
    1. zeleznijdorojnik
      zeleznijdorojnik 3 September 2015 13: 50 New
      +10
      If only, yes, if only - mushrooms were growing in the mouth. History does not have a subjunctive mood, however, specify - what do you mean? Manzhou Guo? And it’s not clear - in what kind of China did the USSR send troops?
      1. zeleznijdorojnik
        zeleznijdorojnik 3 September 2015 13: 52 New
        +12
        The meeting of GDP has passed solidly. Inspired. But father, but his son somehow is not very. Rebenko also grimaced ... br-r.
        1. zeleznijdorojnik
          zeleznijdorojnik 3 September 2015 13: 58 New
          +8
          1. Apologet.Ru
            Apologet.Ru 3 September 2015 14: 15 New
            +16
            hi
            I just want to say - BEAUTIFUL AND DECENT !!!
            I received an aesthetic pleasure from viewing, especially understanding how much effort and patience the participants themselves put into this beauty.
            This is about the parade ...
            But the presenter-voiced by RT, besides annoyance didn’t cause anything, the impression is that the announcer is a typical spak, who has not served in the army for a day, and even distinguishes poorly letters on the cheat sheet ...
            1. guard
              guard 3 September 2015 21: 19 New
              +2
              Among the honored guests of the parade were Russian President Vladimir Putin, UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, Egyptian President al-Sisi, Czech President Milos Zeman, South Korean President Park Geun-hye, Tajik President Rakhmon, Uzbek President Islam Karimov, Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko and others .


              Our President of the Republic of Kazakhstan N.A. Nazarbayev is already listed as "et al." !?
              1. razzhivin
                razzhivin 3 September 2015 21: 42 New
                +5
                Do not worry ... Everyone respects your President ... The author of the article did not want to offend the fraternal people ...
                1. Talgat
                  Talgat 4 September 2015 15: 15 New
                  +1
                  Well, let's not drinks

                  In general, of course, China sent an unambiguous signal to the West, and especially the United States and Japan, that it is not only becoming a center of power, but also gathering potential allies around itself, primarily Russia with all the ODBC, in addition, Pakistan, Latinos - Bolivarians, and not India there will be confrontations at least and there will obviously be at least economic cooperation

                  There was no Iran and North Korea - and these two de facto allies - moreover, "in the forefront"
        2. zeleznijdorojnik
          zeleznijdorojnik 3 September 2015 13: 59 New
          +5
        3. zeleznijdorojnik
          zeleznijdorojnik 3 September 2015 14: 01 New
          +5
          4 times participated in a solid parade - in Kiev during the Soviet era - but I do not remember such stringencies
          1. Serg 122
            Serg 122 3 September 2015 20: 16 New
            0
            Well, another photo to the heap ...
            1. Starover_Z
              Starover_Z 4 September 2015 09: 58 New
              +1
              Quote: Serg 122
              Well, another photo to the heap ...

              And here is the video in the kit!
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5HQf_kejWI - запись с канала "Россия 24"

              We look and evaluate! wink
          2. Aljavad
            Aljavad 3 September 2015 20: 49 New
            0
            I do not remember such strictness


            savages !!! belay

            And the rhythm of the step is 120 per minute - tavi is better!
          3. SSR
            SSR 3 September 2015 22: 12 New
            +1
            Quote: zeleznijdorojnik
            4 times participated in a solid parade - in Kiev during the Soviet era - but I do not remember such stringencies

            And I’m all of these - a waste of fixation approach ..... I still remember and I remember the whole bundle.
        4. Now we are free
          Now we are free 3 September 2015 14: 10 New
          +26
          The event itself ...

          He penetrated the Chinese with even greater respect when they drove in open cars and accompanied by an honorary escort of veterans before the parade. China has always been distinguished by the fact that if he copied something from us (and he copied to ...) then he left only the best and cut off everything else. During the passage of aviation, the passage of equipment and the passage of pedestrian columns I caught a very great resemblance to the Moscow parade in honor of the 70th victory. Even how the cameras were filmed suggests that the Chinese carefully studied our parade and made changes to their own based on what they saw with us. Xi Jinping was great, he himself took the parade and circled the troops very loudly and loudly greeted the military, turning in the blink of an eye from an intelligent intellectual with the face of a man who saw life into a battered military general. This observation once again confirms the proverb - Appearance is deceiving ...
          In general, I liked the parade as well as the fact that there were those who were “on our side of the barricades”, it’s noteworthy that not a single EU representative was present at the Mama-Obama parade, it wasn’t allowed to see (the exception was only the Czech Republic) well done, the Chinese have good memory...
          1. Anatole Klim
            Anatole Klim 3 September 2015 14: 38 New
            +8
            Quote: Now we are free
            This observation once again confirms the proverb - Appearance is deceiving ...

            For some reason, a Mao-style french jacket, in which Xi Jinping was dressed, caught my eye, it even seemed to me that his collar was hemmed. I don’t even suppose that this was what Xi Jinping wanted to convey to those around him ... or maybe it’s just a Chinese tradition, it’s all the same remarkable.
            1. Throw
              Throw 3 September 2015 15: 48 New
              +1
              Ours at 1h02min go. Eagles! soldier
              1. zeleznijdorojnik
                zeleznijdorojnik 3 September 2015 16: 44 New
                0
                And xoxls from 57-38 to 58-00.
          2. svp67
            svp67 3 September 2015 18: 19 New
            +2
            Quote: Now we are free
            transported in open cars and accompanied by an honorary escort of veterans

            This is what we are missing so much, in the sense that in the cars it was both veterans of the Communist Party, and the homildan was an act of popular reconciliation.
            In general, I liked the parade
            Moreover, such coherence arouses respect, as well as the skill of the operators, the procession of pedestrian columns sometimes resembled an avalanche ... Well, here also the size of the area gives a lot, yet our Krasnaya is much smaller in size.
            But what he noted, there were all, but our analogue of the Suvorov and Nakhimov residents was not there.
            1. dvina71
              dvina71 3 September 2015 18: 25 New
              0
              Quote: svp67
              This is what we are missing so much, in the sense that in the cars it was both veterans of the Communist Party, and the homildan was an act of popular reconciliation.


              And who should we carry along with the Red Army men? Policemen? SSovtsev? ROAshnikov? ..
              You didn’t confuse anything?
              1. svp67
                svp67 3 September 2015 20: 45 New
                +1
                Quote: dvina71
                And who should we carry along with the Red Army men? Policemen? SSovtsev? ROAshnikov? ..
                You didn’t confuse anything?

                Do you think that in the “white movement” there were no true patriots of Russia who simply saw it different, not like the communists, and who during the Second World War fought against the fascists, in France, Italy, North Africa, and others places ...
                1. dvina71
                  dvina71 3 September 2015 23: 40 New
                  0
                  Quote: svp67
                  Do you think that in the “white movement” there were no true patriots of Russia who simply saw it different, not like the communists, and who during the Second World War fought against the fascists, in France, Italy, North Africa, and others places ...


                  Even with your logic .. it’s lame .. The Chiang Kai-shek Army for the Red Army is an analogue of the ROA, but not like resistance forces and partisans. In China, they put in one bus enemies who temporarily fought against a common enemy .. Do you propose to rehabilitate Vlasov and Krasnov?
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 4 September 2015 05: 06 New
                    +1
                    Quote: dvina71
                    Even with your logic .. it’s lame ..

                    This is not very logical for you.
                    Quote: dvina71
                    The army of Chiang Kai-shek for the Red Army is an analogue of the ROA, but not like resistance forces and partisans.

                    So you want to say that created with Japanese money and the Japanese, Gomildan fought on their side? Do not make me laugh. The troops of the Homildan from the very beginning to the end fought against Japan. And the USSR for a very long time provided them with help and support. So your comparison is not appropriate.
                    Our SB, in the service of the Gomildan
                    [img] http://worldofwarplanes.ru/dcont/fb/skazki-1/21_october_2013/taran_v_nebe_k

                    itaja-2.jpg? MEDIA_PREFIX = / dcont / fb / [/ img]


                    Our I15

                    And I15bis

                    Here is I16

                    And T26

                    Plus, our crews, instructors and advisers.
                  2. Aleksey_K
                    Aleksey_K 4 September 2015 12: 44 New
                    0
                    Quote: dvina71
                    The army of Chiang Kai-shek for the Red Army is an analogue of the ROA, but not like resistance forces and partisans.

                    The army of Chiang Kai-shek was not at war against the Red Army of the USSR, the Kuomintang should not be confused with the Vlasov traitors. The Kuomintang betrayed no one and existed independently as a party representing the bourgeoisie and even fought more strongly against the Japanese invaders, more strongly than the Maoists (communists). The USSR actively helped the Kuomintang, as well as the Maoists.
              2. Aljavad
                Aljavad 3 September 2015 21: 01 New
                +5
                And who should we carry along with the Red Army men?


                No need to carry anyone.

                It’s time to end the Civil War. There everyone was equally right and guilty. In your own way!

                It is said: “Almost saints began, almost criminals finished.” (I quote from memory)

                "I still fall on that one, that one - civil.
                And the commissioners in dusty helmets will bow silently over me ... "

                Don't do this! Or do we have few external enemies? Or is there no more business left in the country?

                When we have a bickering inside, the enemies rejoice, and rub their lascivious little hands.
              3. Aleksey_K
                Aleksey_K 4 September 2015 12: 35 New
                0
                Quote: dvina71
                Quote: svp67
                This is what we are missing so much, in the sense that in the cars it was both veterans of the Communist Party, and the homildan was an act of popular reconciliation.


                And who should we carry along with the Red Army men? Policemen? SSovtsev? ROAshnikov? ..
                You didn’t confuse anything?

                Historically, the Kuomintang and Maoists fought against the Japanese invaders. And both warring parties have made their contribution to the liberation of China. The USSR also helped Chiang Kai-shek and Mao Jie Dong.
          3. Andrey NM
            Andrey NM 3 September 2015 20: 14 New
            +1
            The parade is grandiose, "guys" are serious. But here is what smiled - the guns on the "cast" and on summer tires, the "Kalash" chrome and shiny. There is something in it ... Chinese. And the influence of our design school is simply overwhelming. Cars on very narrow rubber, which indicates a high pressure on the ground, and this has a bad effect on patency. A lot of technology is just "slime". Strategic bombers - actually Tu-16, I’m silent about other planes. Still, Chinese culture is completely different. Some things for us look if not comical, then unusual.

            Himself in the 80s participated in the parades on the Palace. By November 7, they began to prepare in July.
            1. Aljavad
              Aljavad 3 September 2015 21: 04 New
              0
              Strategic bombers - actually Tu-16


              They are. Upgraded.

              And why are they worse than the Tu-95s? Platform for weapons.
          4. grafin
            grafin 3 September 2015 22: 09 New
            +5
            the commentator-the sucker didn’t come close to the army, and I don’t know where he went ... he called Preobrazhensky and Belarusians and Kyrgyz and Kazakhs ... it sucks for RT - are specialists recruited by what principle ??? I'm already silent about mooing and stuttering - this is generally a feature of modern television and the mass media
        5. demo
          demo 3 September 2015 14: 30 New
          +2
          Yes
          You are right.
          Something is wrong at the conservatory.
        6. digo
          digo 3 September 2015 16: 24 New
          +2
          "The meeting of the GDP was solidly held. It inspired me. But father, but his son somehow wasn’t very good. Rebenko also grimaced ... br-r."
          But why is there - preparing a son for the kingdom ... Although who knows, maybe for the better what
        7. zurbagan63
          zurbagan63 3 September 2015 16: 51 New
          +1
          dad’s dictatorial habits, that’s dragging his son. Already disgusting already ...
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 3 September 2015 14: 00 New
      +6
      Parade Video
    3. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 3 September 2015 14: 04 New
      +5
      Quote: oldav
      I wonder if the USSR did not send troops into China, what would happen to this territory? I doubt that the Americans would have entered there.

      In vain doubt. Without our troops in China, the Kuomintang would most likely have won. And the Kuomintang already in 1946 granted US troops special rights in China.

      Without the entry of Soviet troops into China, the Chinese Communists would not have received the captured weapons of the Kwantung Army. Their further supply would have been difficult (it came with "gray schemes" through Port Arthur). Moreover, in real life, our group in Port Arthur actually saved parts of the communists pushed to the border of our base - the Kuomintang team indicated the radius of fire of Soviet artillery on the map and strongly did not recommend crossing this line “to avoid”.

      Without the entry of our troops into China, none of this would have happened.
    4. meriem1
      meriem1 3 September 2015 16: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: oldav
      I wonder if the USSR did not send troops into China, what would happen to this territory? I doubt that the Americans would have entered there.

      100% yes !!! Only to throw nuclear bombs. To fight ... so it is necessary to be a man ... Always went on someone else's neck (((
  2. morpogr
    morpogr 3 September 2015 13: 37 New
    +2
    We are peaceful people, but our armored train stands on a siding. soldier
    1. I doubt it
      I doubt it 3 September 2015 16: 49 New
      +6
      This is not our armored train, do not flatter yourself. Another big question is which way he will roll. Here they say, ".... the Chinese have a good memory ..." Do you have a good one? After the Second World War was Damansky. And URA near Khabarovsk (now disbanded), the Soviet Union did not build from the Japanese.
      And no one canceled the great Chinese dream. The highest ranks of China speak of her. The same Xi Jinping.
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      2. Temples
        Temples 3 September 2015 17: 56 New
        +3
        Do you have a good one? After the Second World War was Damansky. And URA near Khabarovsk (now disbanded), the Soviet Union did not build from the Japanese.


        Mao - "Stalin could be criticized - but not killed."
        Mao said that Khrushchev was ruining the cause of Stalin!
        In January 1957, he declared that the Soviet leaders were “blinded by a thirst for profit”, so “the best way to deal with them is to ask them to flog it.”

        How modern it sounds !!!

        This is not about the USSR! Not about the people! Not about the course! Not about Stalin! This is about Khrushchev and his comrades.

        “If imperialism imposes a war on us,” said Mao, “and now we have 600 million people, and we will lose 300 million of them, so this is a war, years will pass, we will grow new people and restore the population.” If the West invades the territory of the USSR, he continued, one should not resist - it is better to move beyond the Urals and keep the defense for a year, two, three, until the Chinese come to the aid of the Russians.
  3. sever.56
    sever.56 3 September 2015 13: 38 New
    +13
    Very beautiful and powerful parade. The technique inspires respect, and the ceremonial calculations of the Chinese army were simply excellent, beautiful! And our guys passed, as always, great !. They worthily represented Russia at this event.
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 3 September 2015 13: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: sever.56
      Very beautiful and powerful parade

      Yes .. if it weren’t for obvious jambs .. Okay, long speech from a person with a poor talent for pushing speech. But .. The chromed rims of the salute cannons and the same chromed AKs of the guard of honor .. make me doubt that this is a military parade .. Then .. in the car of S. D. Pina around the headlights there’s some kind of thing .. although this is so Chinese .. but not on a representative limousine ..
      Well, the planes .. The first batch flew over, blew smoke, all the following planes had to be seen through this colorful haze ..
      As for the technology .. What should I call camouflage of white-blue shades on wheeled vehicles and why is it?
      But in general, the spectacle is grandiose and worthy of attention.
      Although I like our parades for being unobtrusive, at a fast pace, but at the same time a clear organization and common sense.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 3 September 2015 14: 05 New
        +4
        Quote: dvina71
        What to call camouflage of white-blue shades on wheeled vehicles and why is it?

        White and blue are marines. They traditionally have these camouflage colors:

        1. dvina71
          dvina71 3 September 2015 14: 15 New
          0
          Quote: Alexey RA
          White and blue are marines.

          That I didn’t understand .. that the Marines .. The question is suddenly .. What is the functionality of such a camouflage?
          1. Bayonet
            Bayonet 3 September 2015 18: 09 New
            0
            Quote: dvina71
            That I didn’t understand .. that the Marines .. The question is suddenly .. What is the functionality of such a camouflage?

            Ours also use such camouflage. This KAMAZ is at my work, it does not belong to marines.
            (click on photo)
          2. Altona
            Altona 3 September 2015 22: 26 New
            +1
            Quote: dvina71
            That I didn’t understand .. that the Marines .. The question is suddenly .. What is the functionality of such a camouflage?

            --------------------------------
            Highlands, coastal zone against the backdrop of the water ...
      2. Altona
        Altona 3 September 2015 14: 54 New
        +3
        Quote: dvina71
        Yes .. if it weren’t for obvious jambs .. Okay, long speech from a person with a poor talent for pushing speech. But .. The chromed rims of the salute cannons and the same chromed AKs of the guard of honor .. make me doubt that this is a military parade .. Then .. in the car of S. D. Pina around the headlights there’s some kind of thing .. although this is so Chinese .. but not on a representative limousine ..

        ---------------------------
        Eastern specificity in everything. Some redundancy, gigantomania, an abundance of colors. I don’t agree about the speech, the public flogging of Shinzo Abe and Obama for not accepting the invitation is cool, honest and in the eyes, there are no “partners and colleagues” to you.
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      4. gjv
        gjv 3 September 2015 16: 42 New
        +1
        Quote: dvina71
        Then .. in the car of S. D. Ping around the headlights there are some little things .., although this is so in Chinese .., but not in the executive limousine ..


        Executive sedan FAW Hongqi L5 (Red Flag L5). Built on the chassis of the Toyota Crown Majesta. The Hongqi L5 sedan is a representative car that meets the needs of the government, in order to prevent a foreign manufacturer from entering this important segment, for example, Rolls-Royce.

        The sedan has a 6-liter V12, capable of developing up to 400 “horses” and a 6-speed automatic. Four-wheel drive and air suspension are available. Dimensions FAW Red Flag L5 are: 5 555 mm in length, 2 018 mm in width, 1 578 mm in height, wheelbase - 3 435 mm. A Chinese car weighing 3200 kg accelerates to 200 km per hour, with a fuel consumption of 20 l / 100 km.
        Previously, only Chinese officials, as well as the head of China, could use the machine of this brand.
        Xi Ping - modesty, uses the "obsolete" design modification 2012-2014.
        In 2015, the design was updated, now these ryushechek-air intakes around the headlights are gone.

        It was originally planned that the car will be used exclusively by the leaders of the Communist Party of China. This decision was later revised in favor of commercialization and the launch of mass production. The first owner of a luxury limousine is already known. He became Wen Zhonghua, the owner of a chain of furniture stores in Jiangsu.
        The cost of the limousine is 5 million yuan, which is equivalent to about 63,5 million rubles.
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 3 September 2015 23: 15 New
          +1
          The muzzle is clearly seamless from the 21st Volga. However, what I mean, they have everything seamlessly drawn.
      5. Ajent cho
        Ajent cho 4 September 2015 00: 32 New
        +1
        Although I like our parades for being unobtrusive, at a fast pace, but at the same time a clear organization and common sense.
        I knew that someone had already expressed my idea.
        The tendency to copy very ruins the idea and creativity. This fully applies to the Chinese. And we also have a well-developed continuity, which is not observed at all in the salad of Chinese military equipment.
        In short (the Chinese comrades forgive me), the impression of the parade: everything is very large and stupid.
    2. Roman1970
      Roman1970 3 September 2015 14: 11 New
      +2
      Quote: sever.56
      Very beautiful and powerful parade. The technique inspires respect, and the ceremonial calculations of the Chinese army were simply excellent, beautiful! And our guys passed, as always, great !. They worthily represented Russia at this event.

      Powerful, of course ... But the parade on Red Square impressed me more. The reason is simple. There was music familiar from childhood. And the Chinese marches ... Well, for the Chinese they, of course, are understandable and familiar, but they did not cause me enthusiasm ...
      1. demo
        demo 3 September 2015 14: 39 New
        +4
        Chinese marches is a mixture of Anglo-French melodies in a Chinese arrangement.
        It’s very hard to go along with this kind of music in combat.
        And tonality cuts the ear.
        Oh well.
        This is a parade in Beijing, not in Moscow.
        The organization is very high level.
        And faces.
        The faces of the soldiers are simply amazing with their unflappable monumentality.
        Although here the local flavor affects.
        1. Aljavad
          Aljavad 3 September 2015 21: 13 New
          0
          It’s very hard to go along with this kind of music in combat.


          On TV they said: pace - 112 steps / minute. Our pace is 120. It’s therefore difficult, because it’s unusual - as it were.

          Not ours.
      2. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 3 September 2015 16: 03 New
        0
        Quote: dvina71
        What is the functionality of such a camouflage?
        Maybe it was a coloring especially for that memorable parade ..? Here's what these cars look like now: the blue tone is not so bright, interspersed with a green “number.” Yes, and the soldiers have a uniform, but the rest is wearing protective colors.
  4. kil 31
    kil 31 3 September 2015 13: 40 New
    +6
    The Western media noted that the statement by the PRC chairman is a signal to the West. - A signal that the Chinese army "will be reduced quantitatively, but at the same time grow qualitatively." I don’t know why they think that they are sending some signals. In the priest, they did not knock on China. It’s just that the army is developing technologically and that amount is no longer needed.
    1. demo
      demo 3 September 2015 14: 40 New
      +3
      Countries that won LGBT will always sniff and listen.
      This is their mentality.
      Or sensitivity.
  5. udincev
    udincev 3 September 2015 13: 40 New
    +4
    The parade is impressive. Communication leaders in China, I hope, is also not without good. And thank God that without the Anglo-Saxons.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 3 September 2015 15: 11 New
      +4
      Quote: udincev
      Communication leaders in China, I hope, is also not without good. And thank God that without the Anglo-Saxons.

      Korean hamster didn't come either smile - Does not respect the Chinese, and yet they laid almost a million of their soldiers for Kims!
  6. SAA
    SAA 3 September 2015 13: 42 New
    +5
    Beautiful, well done.
  7. PQ-18
    PQ-18 3 September 2015 13: 44 New
    +14
    I did not like the comments of Russian journalists from the Beijing parade ...
    They sang with the filing of the Beijing official disinformation that "China has made a decisive contribution to the defeat of Japan in Asia"!
    Beijing revisionism on the "crucial role" has a distant and ambitious aim ..
    Mao @ comrade from the Communist Party ALL war hiding in the caves, and ONLY after the declaration of the USSR war of Japan .. a little stir "against yuppie"!
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 3 September 2015 14: 00 New
      +1
      Well, then China had a lot of victims ..
    2. demo
      demo 3 September 2015 14: 44 New
      +4
      What about eastern polites?
      The spoken word in China will be analyzed a hundred times and rechecked for "lice."
      So it was necessary to say.
      And another thirty years, our announcers said that:
      "The Chinese military is rattling weapons."
      Or not?
      So do not cling to the words of journalists.
      They have such a profession - to live with astigmatism of conscience.
      Largely.
      They are paid for what they say.
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 3 September 2015 23: 18 New
        -2
        Quote: demo
        So no need for words of journalists cling.
        journalism
    3. BIGLESHIY
      BIGLESHIY 3 September 2015 15: 17 New
      0
      Quote: PQ-18
      I did not like the comments of Russian journalists from the Beijing parade ...
      They sang with the filing of the Beijing official disinformation that "China has made a decisive contribution to the defeat of Japan in Asia"!
      Beijing revisionism on the "crucial role" has a distant and ambitious aim ..
      Mao @ comrade from the Communist Party ALL war hiding in the caves, and ONLY after the declaration of the USSR war of Japan .. a little stir "against yuppie"!

      I’m trying to remember the same thing, this is some decisive contribution China made to the victory over Japan. Another attempt to rewrite history. Again they are trying to steal the victory from us.
    4. Alexey Lobanov
      Alexey Lobanov 3 September 2015 15: 33 New
      +14
      Quote: PQ-18
      I did not like the comments of Russian journalists from the Beijing parade ...
      They sang with the filing of the Beijing official disinformation that "China has made a decisive contribution to the defeat of Japan in Asia"!
      Beijing revisionism on the "crucial role" has a distant and ambitious aim ..
      Mao @ comrade from the Communist Party ALL war hiding in the caves, and ONLY after the declaration of the USSR war of Japan .. a little stir "against yuppie"!

      Why do you post nonsense, the Chinese from the 37th (and, in general - even earlier) held back the Japs!
      If not for China, Japan would very likely have attacked the USSR. And I was always surprised that the role of China in this good deed is underestimated. Read at least the actual material, or something. am
      1. K-50
        K-50 3 September 2015 17: 45 New
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        Quote: Alexey Lobanov
        Why do you post nonsense, the Chinese from the 37th (and, in general - even earlier) held back the Japs!

        But nothing that China was almost all under the Japs?
        And this with a population of ten times more than the enemy, while there was a lot of help with weapons, equipment from the USSR and the USA?
        The Chinese simply hid and did not shine, just as about their saying about the clash of two tigers, waiting for the battle to end.
        Well, China has no military victories, no, not a single one, even Vietnam was lost with a much smaller Vietnamese army. hi
        1. Aljavad
          Aljavad 3 September 2015 21: 35 New
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          But nothing that China was almost all under the Japs?
          And this with a population of ten times more than the enemy, while there was a lot of help with weapons, equipment from the USSR and the USA?

          The strategy was its own, Chinese. We do not understand, even wild.
          To lure the aggressor deep into its relatively vast territory, and then, for a couple of generations, to assimilate.
          The method tested on the previous conquerors - the Mongols and Manchurians.
          So, with our fraternal help, they even mixed cards in something.

          When our military experts in China back in the 30s. tried to plan the offensive, or although a strong defense, they were looked at as jumping from an oak tree. What for???? Let them come! And we will depart. The enemy will stretch communications, disperse forces, in the end weaken and ask for peace. Losses? Do we really have a few people? A lot more than the enemy. Even if 10 Japanese perishes at 1 Chinese, soon we will kill them. (Relevant Damage topic for the states)

          PS: This refers to China in general, and not to Mao and the CCP in particular. To this we are intended and 100%.
        2. Alexey Lobanov
          Alexey Lobanov 3 September 2015 22: 12 New
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          Quote: K-50
          Quote: Alexey Lobanov
          Why do you post nonsense, the Chinese from the 37th (and, in general - even earlier) held back the Japs!

          But nothing that China was almost all under the Japs?
          And this with a population of ten times more than the enemy, while there was a lot of help with weapons, equipment from the USSR and the USA?
          The Chinese simply hid and did not shine, just as about their saying about the clash of two tigers, waiting for the battle to end.
          Well, China has no military victories, no, not a single one, even Vietnam was lost with a much smaller Vietnamese army. hi

          Well, let's judge objectively, by numbers, so to speak.
          Losses of Japan in the war with China - up to 500 thousand killed (many open sources).
          Losses of Japan in the war in the Pacific Ocean - 310 thousand killed.
          The military power of China and the United States (not counting the allies) of that time does not make sense to compare.
          Question - who made a decisive contribution to the defeat of the Japanese?
          And another question - where in the Pacific Ocean, at least the millionth army of the Japanese opposed the Americans?
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 3 September 2015 23: 28 New
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            Quote: Alexey Lobanov
            Losses of Japan in the war with China - up to 500 thousand killed (many open sources).
            Losses of Japan in the war in the Pacific Ocean - 310 thousand killed.
            The military power of China and the United States (not counting the allies) of that time does not make sense to compare.
            Question - who made a decisive contribution to the defeat of the Japanese?
            And another question - where in the Pacific Ocean, at least the millionth army of the Japanese opposed the Americans?

            In the Battle of Midway alone, 3 Japanese aircraft carriers gurgled, not counting escort ships. Aircraft carrier, both in weight and in price, pulls on a tank army, although in terms of crew it’s only a regiment. So to compare the marine and land theaters is not entirely correct. Name at least one land battle in which they would have destroyed (not battered, not defeated and discarded, namely 3 tank armies were completely destroyed.
            1. Alexey Lobanov
              Alexey Lobanov 4 September 2015 00: 05 New
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              If it weren’t for China, on which Japan has been squandering its military power since 1937, it is doubtful that there would have been a Midway ... True, I doubt that there would have been Pearl Harbr ... The Americans would have been quiet and would not have interfered the Japs grab whatever they wanted. There would be no oil blockade. And, accordingly, Japan would not attack. laughing
              The “exceptional” generally like to attribute themselves to merit, and as for the Second World War, they have no equal in this. Only if you inflate the mouse to the size of an elephant, it will look more comical than realistic.
              1. Revolver
                Revolver 4 September 2015 08: 57 New
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                Quote: Alexey Lobanov
                If not for China, on which Japan squandered its military power since 1937
                If you are such a fan of China, then remove the Japanese Nakajima Ki-84 from Ava and replace it with a Chinese thread ... oh yes, the Chinese chineses didn’t have their own aircraft, they flew for them at one time, and quite successfully, Soviet pilots in Soviet And -16, differing only in Chinese (specifically Kuomintang) identities.



                True, when the Japanese brought their famous Zero against them, the "donkeys" somehow immediately faded and deflated.
                1. Alexey Lobanov
                  Alexey Lobanov 4 September 2015 09: 24 New
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                  Quote: Nagan
                  If you are such a fan of China, then remove the Japanese Nakajima Ki-84 from Ava and replace it with a Chinese thread ...

                  Hayat on the profile picture is only a personal tradition, no more. Although, she already says that her owner was interested wink question ...
                  The Chinese did not have aviation and navy, but the Japs inflicted damage, very significant for the further development of history. The damage is moral and economic. Everything that happened since December 1941 is only a consequence of the previous five years of the war. I just want to show that China took the brunt of Japan, and this made a decisive contribution.
                  1. Alexey Lobanov
                    Alexey Lobanov 4 September 2015 09: 41 New
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                    Yes, I forgot to clarify about Ishachkov ... I don’t see the point of comparing them with Zero, the generations are different. I think you know how despairingly the Japanese pilots called the American Wildcats - and they were of the same generation ...
                    1. Revolver
                      Revolver 4 September 2015 20: 25 New
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                      Quote: Alexey Lobanov
                      Yes, I forgot to clarify about Ishachkov ... I don’t see the point of comparing them with Zero, the generations are different.

                      There is no sense, and then there was, but the pilots on the I-16 still flew up to the sky and fought, although they themselves knew how much the forces were not equal. Because there was such a word - "must." Such a thing is a military duty - since it is ordered to attack with the bare backside of a hedgehog, you will attack, and you will scream “cheers” too.soldier
                      And you, although in many respects do not agree, plus - because, unlike some, argue with arguments, not rudeness.
    5. Aljavad
      Aljavad 3 September 2015 21: 24 New
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      I did not like the comments of Russian journalists from the Beijing parade ...
      They sang with the filing of the Beijing official disinformation that "China has made a decisive contribution to the defeat of Japan in Asia"!
      Beijing revisionism on the "crucial role" has a distant and ambitious aim ..
      Mao @ comrades from the Communist Party HIDDEN ALL the war in the caves, and ONLY after the declaration of the USSR war of Japan .. a little stir "against yuppie"!


      Like it or not, they fought for almost 15 years, put 30 million. As much as they could, they could!

      The strategy was its own, Chinese. We do not understand, even wild.
      To lure the aggressor deep into its relatively vast territory, and then, for a couple of generations, to assimilate.
      The method tested on the previous conquerors - the Mongols and Manchurians.
      So, with our fraternal help, they even mixed cards in something.

      PS: This refers to China in general, and not to Mao and the CCP in particular. To this we are intended and 100%.
  8. Wolka
    Wolka 3 September 2015 13: 45 New
    +2
    China's goal is achieved - a serious bid for a demonstration of power and widespread participation in global processes ... good
  9. Zheka40
    Zheka40 3 September 2015 13: 45 New
    -1
    Hammers off topic (
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 3 September 2015 15: 20 New
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      Quote: Zheka40
      Hammers off topic (
      The Dongfeng SUV EQ2050, also known as the "Chinese Hammer", has been manufactured in China since 2004 exclusively for the armed forces of the PRC. hi
  10. 44 World
    44 World 3 September 2015 13: 46 New
    +1
    If only there was no war ...
  11. EFRSTR
    EFRSTR 3 September 2015 13: 49 New
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    The technique went very smoothly.
    1. zeleznijdorojnik
      zeleznijdorojnik 3 September 2015 13: 51 New
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      Smoked so painfully. But for a long time we had developed special fuel for equipping military vehicles for the parade - we would have had it on a Chinese solarium - the Kremlin shadows and GUM would have scraped off another year ...
  12. dk
    dk 3 September 2015 13: 50 New
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    you feel the power
  13. twincam
    twincam 3 September 2015 13: 51 New
    +1
    well done !!
    tear epony, europu and tan.
  14. rf xnumx
    rf xnumx 3 September 2015 13: 56 New
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    Military Parade in Beijing
    They can!
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  16. Prussian
    Prussian 3 September 2015 13: 59 New
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    This is already a historical bow, our common victory, this is an application for a common history, In general, China is used to without allies, mentally for them everything beyond the celestial heavens is a barbaric world, we don’t even understand how serious it is for the Chinese to draw a parallel with our victory. never before had it been known.
  17. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 3 September 2015 14: 02 New
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    Everything was solidly furnished. And the fact that there were no Western libertines and Obama bastards does not surprise. These bastards do not want to remember their defeat in the war, but the United States of America is eternal political pr ---- tutki, always where there is an abomination
  18. narval20
    narval20 3 September 2015 14: 08 New
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    I watched the whole parade. Of course, impressive. Well done.
    But (!!!) our, Russian parades are dearer and better / more interesting :)
    He visited China more than once (on service) - therefore, the training and methods of preparing the military personnel of the Chinese army for the parade is not surprising.
    Happy Victory Day, our Eastern Friends and Neighbors! soldier
  19. 1 Nikita
    1 Nikita 3 September 2015 14: 15 New
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    Can someone explain for what such merits the CRIMINAL (Vasiliev) got there, and even on the podium for the guests of honor. Again, the tsar-father did not know?
  20. Engineer
    Engineer 3 September 2015 14: 35 New
    +3
    I watched the parade. The double impression of military equipment, or rather of the abundance of surround equipment. Sorry, but I immediately remember this:
    1. Enot_33
      Enot_33 3 September 2015 15: 13 New
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      the missiles really look fake) and the jolly white-blue camouflage itself certainly hurts the eye. the Russian eye is simply not used to this.
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 3 September 2015 15: 41 New
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        This is the model exposition from the Navy - these are sea missiles. They simply have all kinds, even the Navy is not an everyday box of cadets, but an exposition of weapons.
  21. Valery56
    Valery56 3 September 2015 14: 37 New
    +1
    Happy Victory Day, Friends ...
  22. tezey
    tezey 3 September 2015 15: 37 New
    +4
    I watched the parade. Impressed. Development on the face. This is the army of this century. We must be friends.
  23. Bobfia
    Bobfia 3 September 2015 16: 07 New
    +8
    I watched the parade on "Russia 24". Very upset by the work of commentators. Talk about anything ... It would be interesting to listen to what kind of units of the Chinese army are represented. I would very much like it to be said - from which countries this or that column, but of all this was said only about 3 or 4 ... Very little was said about the equipment ... In general, I liked the parade, there was no presentation on our TV ... Somehow they didn’t prepare ... Maybe the channel was chosen incorrectly?
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    2. padded jacket
      padded jacket 3 September 2015 17: 54 New
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      Quote: BobFIA
      Very upset by the work of commentators. Chatter about anything ...

      Well, if you didn’t like the comments, then there’s another such version of the parade in Chinese.

      By the way, citizens from Israel with "foam at the mouth" here argued that they had "peace, friendship, chewing gum" with China, but for some reason their prime minister did not come, however, like he did not come to the parade in Moscow. What the owner from Washington did not give permission? lol
      And the Western leaders did not come in vain, they will remember this in China.
      The absence of Western leaders at a parade in Beijing offends the memory of the victims of World War II
  24. NordUral
    NordUral 3 September 2015 16: 57 New
    +3
    All right! If we fight against China, then only with it against the predatory and arrogant West. And it depends only on us whether our cooperation will be equal.
  25. demandy1
    demandy1 3 September 2015 18: 14 New
    +6
    Well done Chinese, a gorgeous parade! And notice, not a single bugger!
  26. Straight
    Straight 3 September 2015 20: 33 New
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    Very strong impression. Everything is at the highest level. I am glad that China is with us and understands the danger of a man with the delusions of grandeur of the West. And these mad in their anger - did not come to the parade, which showed disrespect for the Chinese people and its gigantic victims during the war. The Chinese, I think, will appreciate the baseness of Americans and Europeans.
  27. PValery53
    PValery53 3 September 2015 20: 41 New
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    Impressive at the Beijing parade is its clear organization, drill training (training) of the parade participants. But ... the Russian combatant step is clearer, more concise and dearer. If a full battalion box had passed, it would have been more convincing. But so great!
  28. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 3 September 2015 21: 46 New
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    And I liked our parade on May XNUMXth more. Although Chinese is also not bad.
  29. aws4
    aws4 4 September 2015 01: 14 New
    +3
    the parade is good, there are no words, but the one who commented on the passage of the technique on our television showed complete lack of knowledge ... sorry but I was ashamed to listen to this commentator ..... and even more I will say this SHAME !! our TV people got into a puddle inviting an amateur ......
  30. skazochnik
    skazochnik 4 September 2015 03: 11 New
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    The parade impressed me very much, like all Chinese parades, the commentator with RT was disgraced by his bone-speaking and lack of knowledge of the subject. The variety of missile systems surprised me even though some of them are somewhat archaic, I really liked how the leader of China showed himself.
  31. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 4 September 2015 07: 50 New
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    Well, you "cling" to some little things, you can see anything at the Chinese "Victory Parade", but China and the Chinese are worthy of all respect. Do not approach with your standards and opinions - the East is a delicate matter!