Peace - dead. And the country - to us




Thousands and thousands of reasons to be ashamed of watching us from newspapers, websites, reports, radio and television. There is shame. And the facility is found. You just need to give up all this and say: “This is not me. That's not mine".

I love talking to people about dreams. I love to read about dreams. I love to hear about them. For dreams, almost everything can be said about a person or a society.

There are many different genres of dreams. There is science fiction - about starships, about protein synthesizers, traveling and mastering the planets. Soviet - about the struggle for the exaltation of man. Or capitalist - a desperate adventurous struggle for a place under the sun. "Planet of Storms" and "Indomitable Planet." Strugatsky and Harrison. One genre, and what a huge difference!

Or here's a fantasy. Or a marvelous genre of “popanstvo”, caused by a strange and characteristic for Russians, the desire to alter their own history.

And here is a little dream again. Dream expressed Oleg Kashin. She talks a lot about dreamers.

They celebrated the Olympics, and even the press critical of the Kremlin notes the high quality of its organization, and state television says that Russia has shown itself open to the world, and Merkel flies to Moscow and sincerely happily embraces his friend Vladimir, and there are no stickers about Obama on Russian cars Only about the grandfather and the victory is, and no "can repeat."

The ruble is stable, oil is expensive, supermarket shelves are full of hundreds of varieties of the finest European cheese.

Sometimes, in order to trample something, you don’t need to jump at it with fists and angry denunciation. Sometimes it is enough to just truthfully supplement.

So I will just continue.

It was a friendly football match between Spartak Moscow and Metalist Kharkiv (or Arsenal - I don’t care). Ukrainian fans with flags and symbols passed through the streets of Moscow. Among them were the ultras who participated with the burning of people in the Odessa House of Trade Unions. The police did not intervene.

The deputies of Ukraine D. Yarosh and A. Biletsky visited the Echo of Moscow radio station - the leading Echo Buntman congratulated them on the anniversary of the ban of the Russian language and asked about national policy.

Prime Minister of Russia D. Medvedev met with his counterpart A. Yatsenyuk. Talk about gas discounts was held in a friendly atmosphere.

An article by I. Farion on the full support of the population of Crimea of ​​the ban on education in Russian and the replacement of Russian was published on the Novaya Gazeta website fleet to american.

And so on.

Is the picture described above by O. Kashin worth enduring the inevitable attachments to it in the form?

Is freedom from the need to be polite with these vile mugs, frankly speaking, a few conditional hardships that we endure?

The price of a dream is what is important to understand and present well before inviting someone to dream the same with you. Do not you give out something about yourself that no one needs to know?

But the advice from a dreamer. Also interesting:

Just stop treating the Russian Federation as your state. It is not yours, not ours. It sat on our heads without asking us if we want this. It exists independently of us, the only form of its interaction with us is its police structures. The man who was killed at the Dalniy ATS - if he were alive, would he also say that he was ashamed of the police?

Let the Russian Federation be ashamed of the Russian Federation - it’s not us, it’s not related to us. This is a foreign state, it is hostile to any Russian person. Saying that you are ashamed of him, you stand on his side. Treat him like ISIS - are you ashamed of ISIS?

Seductively. Oh, how seductive. How easy it is to get rid of shame.

Yes, Kashin and I are ashamed of different things: he is ashamed of the fact that they put Sentsov in prison, and I, for letting Vasilyev out. His friends are ashamed of the fact that Stomakhin is sitting (for what? He just simply called for killing and discriminating the Russians), for me because of the insult based on the nationality made by the media, Ernst Kudusov and Alfred Koch did not sit down.

And for the fools and the road ashamed. And for the lack of hospices. Not enough schools, kindergartens, hospitals. Education, honesty, conscience is often and often lacking.

I have under the windows all the edge of the forest dirtied. The citizens rest and leave traces of their rest everywhere - packaging, paper, bottles, barbecues.

Disgusting. It's a shame for fellow citizens.

Our prefect is trying to pave our way through our forest. And all the while trying to pretend that the residents of our area very much agree with that. It is a shame for the prefect.

Thousands and thousands of reasons to be ashamed of watching us from newspapers, websites, reports, radio and television.

There is shame. And the facility is found. You just need to give up all this and say: “This is not me. That's not mine". Those who want to stop feeling ashamed - you just need to step aside. Those who do not want to have a common country with thieves, fools, corrupt officials, criminals - you just need to move away.

For those who do not want to mess, you need to move.

For this it is not necessary to enter into liberalism. It is possible on the contrary - to enter into something patriotic. You can even in the Soviet. Or nationalistic. Taste. The main thing - to abandon this country.

The solution is so easy. So simple. So seductively elementary.

Move away. And do not interfere.

Because there are those who calmly refer to the blood and dirt on their hands. There are those who are not afraid to get dirty. There are those who are not tormented by shame.

And they have to deal with this country.

And you with your “this is my country”, with your still working and living shame - you can stop this business. Of course, they can pass through you too, but this will increase costs. And these people - honor the rate of return.

So yes - embarrassing.

But we are not going anywhere. Because this is all ours.

And with dirt, and with ill-bred fellow citizens, and with Vasilyeva, and with roads and fools, but also with Pskov paratroopers who did not leave the scientists. With hopes and graves of ancestors. With Stalin and the Terrible, with Seraphim of Sarov and Sergius of Radonezh.

All this is ours.

All this is us.

And even if we are still far from perfect, we have not yet become hell, floor cloth, or regimental regiment I have described ...

And our shame, our ability to be ashamed is needed precisely by this country and ourselves. Our people and our children.

And we will not give up this shame to anyone and will not exchange anything for anything.

Peace - dead.

And the country - to us.

And imagine that there was no Crimea. That is, it was, of course, but it remained an autonomous republic within Ukraine, and Aksenov still sits at the threshold of the Verkhovna Rada, to which he will never be elected, and the prosecutor Poklonskaya is visiting the Crimean grandmother no longer in the prosecutor’s dress, just staying, without any ambitions ...
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  1. Vladimir 1964 5 September 2015 15: 02 New
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    Interesting article.
    1. severniy 5 September 2015 15: 06 New
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      I don’t understand .. You can minus .. The article is not about my mood ..
      And the 100th time I say, I’m in the Crimea, there are Russians! 100500 percent!
      1. Baikonur 5 September 2015 15: 14 New
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        And in the Donbass and in Kharkov, too, Russian, and in Transnistria! I dream that together we could be proud of Russia!
        And to be ashamed? Yes, in all countries there is something to be ashamed of, and even more!
        But litter and crap - education!
        I don’t understand why this question is not raised on TV!
        1. Temples 5 September 2015 15: 24 New
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          characteristic of Russians with a desire to reinterpret their own story


          Roma, you say, don’t talk.

          What is this Russian desire to rewrite history?
          Can you give more details?

          I am ashamed of him.

          What makes you think that a Russian should be ashamed?
          Want to be ashamed - your problems.
          Just don’t shift your phobias at all.

          Love the Motherland and act in such a way that there would be no reason to be ashamed.

          Remember the words of Korchagin?
          1. severniy 5 September 2015 15: 25 New
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            I’ll raise a comment comrade ....
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            What kind of attempt to arrange a srach on the resource? The article smells bad. I own a little NLP and claim that the hidden message of the article provokes a negative reaction from the reader. Especially the central part. Even the format is in command form. And the beginning and the end, for health, it seems, distracting formulas.
            PS: Do not rush to minus me, read the opus carefully.
            1. Next 5 September 2015 20: 02 New
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              Try to re-read them again.
              1. Vladimir 1964 5 September 2015 20: 30 New
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                Good comment Igor, good, but I'm afraid that for some it still will not help.
            2. marlin1203 5 September 2015 21: 27 New
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              Literary pretty elegantly written, good Russian. I understood everything correctly, no traces of zombies were noticed. Everything about the eternal, about good and evil and the human conscience.
          2. Albert1988 5 September 2015 16: 20 New
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            Quote: Temples
            What is this Russian desire to rewrite history?
            Can you give more details?

            The answer to this question has long been found - all this "shame", all these "attempts" to re-think something there, and the "popanadny" literature resulting from them - are sublimation of the "loser" complexes, which, unfortunately, are inherent in a very large number of our fellow citizens - many of them profess liberal ideology, others put on a Nazi-Black-Hundred wrapper, but they have one thing in common - they are not wealthy in life, primarily because they are not used to working, they are not used to answering for something, and so they shift the blame and shame for their failure on the state, on the country, on the people, in general, on everyone and everything, except for those beloved.
            They can’t live in such a way that they don’t be ashamed of it, so the justification begins - the country is “not like that”, the people are “not like that”, etc. and thoughts on the topic "as if it would be better if ..."
            1. Eternal Watch 5 September 2015 16: 42 New
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              Quote: Albert1988
              here they put the blame and shame for their failure on the state,

              Dear!
              Do you remember the main thesis of capitalism?
              The strongest survives. those. all who did not have time to bite off part of the state property or are not trained to trade Chinese underpants, in your opinion, are losers.
              And also, in your opinion, all pensioners are losers.
              And I think you are a loser because in the 90s I didn’t go to “unscrew” the Bosky hucksters and shoot the likes of myself, although, believe me, there were plenty of offers from the “bandos” to me, as a person with combat experience. ..
              And the “lucky ones,” in your opinion, are the ebn family, the seven-boyars, the coop. “Lake”, bankers and traders.
              The "lucky ones" must live, and the "losers" to serve them, not living up to old age - this is your paradigm.
              I expressly declare that all this bacchanalia is not for long, “tolerate” a little more.
              Social Revolution is inevitable, like a sunrise.
              1. VseDoFeNi 5 September 2015 18: 45 New
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                Quote: Eternal Watch
                The strongest survives.

                These are not the strongest, but mediocre, unscrupulous, greedy, etc.

                Quote: Eternal Watch
                Social Revolution is inevitable, like a sunrise.

                What did you do with this revolution?
                The same crowd-elite system. You saw rations for directors and chief engineers in the hungry eighties? And I saw. And the term "egalitarianism" tells you what?
                You want the rich not, but the poor. And revolution is not needed here. Need evolution and morality.
                1. veksha50 5 September 2015 19: 32 New
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                  Quote: VseDoFeNi
                  You want not to be rich, but it is necessary that there are no poor. And revolution is not needed here. Need evolution and morality.



                  !!!

                  I fully support ...

                  The rich, or the "lucky ones" were always ... And far from it, these were not always decent people ...

                  But the fact that among decent workers there shouldn’t be poor - this is the kind of society that needs to be created ... So that an honestly working person who brings his own contribution to the benefit of society never feels flawed ...
                2. marlin1203 5 September 2015 21: 32 New
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                  With all due respect, these special rations and in general all the benefits of the USSR party nomenclature are not worth one Abramovich’s yacht. So do not talk about it. Equalization is not good, but there was a “necessary minimum” (social) for all and “from plow to people” there were much more chances to break out than now. And they fought with egalitarianism by piece-rate forms of remuneration, bonuses, etc. There were a lot of highly paid professions, district coefficients, etc. In general, we don’t have to “sprinkle ash” on our entire past and be ashamed of it.
                3. Eternal Watch 6 September 2015 01: 26 New
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                  Quote: VseDoFeNi
                  revolution is not needed here. Need evolution and morality.

                  evolution ... blue-green algae ..man .. KPE ...
                  We are slowly waiting for the bourgeoisie to evolve into proletarians and distribute, looted wealth to all deservedly ...
                  even children laugh from you .... be ashamed ....
                  1. Babr 6 September 2015 04: 37 New
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                    Do not touch the CPE, the future lies with it. (Although after Petrov’s death, everything has changed there)
                    I want the same for barricades. And with what?
                    With your komunyaksky views? But I'm sorry, this has already passed.
                    And where are we?
                    Right.
                    Oh ..
                    So you need to look tongue
              2. proletarian 5 September 2015 20: 05 New
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                Sorry for the intervention, did you carefully read the comment?
                Zhenya said
                Quote: Albert1988
                they are not wealthy in life, primarily because they are not used to working, they are not used to answering for something, and so they blame and shame for their failure on the state, on the country, on the people, in general, on everyone and everything, except loved ones.
                1. Albert1988 6 September 2015 00: 02 New
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                  Quote: proletarian
                  Sorry for the intervention, did you carefully read the comment?
                  Zhenya said

                  Here, apparently, they read extremely inattentively ...
                  Well, it happens))))
              3. Albert1988 6 September 2015 00: 00 New
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                Quote: Eternal Watch
                those. all who did not have time to bite off part of the state property or are not trained to trade Chinese underpants, in your opinion, are losers.
                And also, in your opinion, all pensioners are losers.
                And I think you are a loser because in the 90s I didn’t go to “unscrew” the Bosky hucksters and shoot the likes of myself, although, believe me, there were plenty of offers from the “bandos” to me, as a person with combat experience. ..
                And the “lucky ones,” in your opinion, are the ebn family, the seven-boyars, the coop. “Lake”, bankers and traders.
                The "lucky ones" must live, and the "losers" to serve them, not living up to old age - this is your paradigm.

                Do not turn everything inside out - losers, this is a very definite class of people - by the way I wrote them - basically these are numerous graduates of motley pseudo-universities of a humanitarian-economic-legal profile, suffering from excessive exaggerated conceit, who consider them to be “exceptional” and worthy of golden mountains and dairy rivers just for the fact that they are such. When they are faced with reality, where to work, and they do not want to do this, then all this shame begins, etc.
                Therefore, read my comment carefully: have you ever seen a senior citizen or an even hard worker who would be ashamed that he is Russian? Or who would seriously consider. that the country is to blame for some of his failures?
                They can criticize the government, the system, etc., but their criticism is substantive and does not resemble liberal whining like "our country and people are not like that."
                Quote: Eternal Watch
                And the “lucky ones,” in your opinion, are the ebn family, the seven-boyars, the coop. “Lake”, bankers and traders.

                And this, dear, is a banal thief, which turned out to be at the right time in the right place, which was just lucky, and without much effort went out of the mud to riches. By the way, a typical loser just dreams of such luck - just to steal, buy dachas, Mercedes and not work, only the thieves that have already broken through to the feeder will not let the poor go on, they’ll curse the country ...
                1. Eternal Watch 6 September 2015 00: 24 New
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                  Quote: Albert1988
                  Albert1988

                  it is possible that I did not understand your promises ...,
                  but
                  you just strengthened me in my innocence!
                  your thesis boils down to the fact that thieves are waiting for thieves stolen
                  Our concepts diverge, as, apparently, and life perceptions hi
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          3. Iskras 5 September 2015 16: 21 New
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            the author got into the wrong steppe.
          4. st25310 5 September 2015 17: 46 New
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            Kurgan-25 in action
            1. VseDoFeNi 5 September 2015 18: 53 New
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              This is the merit of Putin, although many do not want to see this !!!
            2. 9lvariag 5 September 2015 23: 25 New
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              Well, what's wrong with Kurgan? And what's in his gun?
              In my time, at our airport there was such an emergency, with the Su-17M4 “duty link”. I don’t know what the techies did there, but on one of the planes looking with their noses in the direction of the town, the NR-30 shot.
              Deliciously so lupanula and a good lineup. The ladder that was standing under the plane, from the rebound of the first AP shell, took off at 4m. up and crashed onto the hood APA! Sailor got a concussion. Both techies are injured by fragments of pipe and shell. The shell flew into the caponier.
              The rest of the shells fell:
              1) 2 of them in front of the barracks, one OFZT.
              2) 1-in BB tracer struck the asphalt in the alley.
              3) 2-OFZT (possibly armor-piercing-explosive), exploded near the school. It was lucky that there was no training time, and dense bushes and trees were saved.
              4) One BB with a tracer and RP, got through 3km. in Gas -53. “bread machine”, tearing a solid piece of the box from her. The car was then repaired and painted. Drove, paid money for crap pants.
              The case was under Yurin and he was hushed up quietly.
              And here is just some kind of fire.
          5. Lelek 5 September 2015 18: 09 New
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            Quote: Temples
            Temples


            I would put more "likes", but the system does not allow. Bravo!
          6. proletarian 5 September 2015 19: 59 New
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            Do not confuse shame and all sorts of phobias, because these are completely different concepts; in fact, everything is simple, shame "makes" a person correct himself and change for the better everything around him gradually, step by step, and phobias or Russian fear make a person avoid everything that it scares him, to turn away where participation is necessary, help is needed, people "amazed" by fear say they don’t concern me, my hut is from the edge.
          7. VseDoFeNi 5 September 2015 20: 14 New
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            Quote: Temples
            What is this Russian desire to rewrite history?
            Can you give more details?

            It’s just that they have changed the story for us and continue to do it today.



            Quote: Temples
            What makes you think that a Russian should be ashamed?


            “We British and Americans are thieves, robbers, and pirates, which we are proud of.” Mark Twain.

            Arrogant Saxons pride themselves in doing abominations, but should we be ashamed?
          8. Aleksey_K 5 September 2015 21: 35 New
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            Quote: Temples
            Love the Motherland and act in such a way that there would be no reason to be ashamed.

            Remember the words of Korchagin?

            Pavka Korchagin with a saber and a rifle "white reptile" beat. This "white reptile" consisted of nobles, gentlemen of capitalists, liberals and all sorts of remnants of royal evil. Therefore, he was not ashamed. We cannot do this now for many reasons, one of which, and the most important, is civil strife in the country will lead to the death of Russia. It will be torn to pieces and captured by new invaders: America, England, Japan, Germany, France, Canada, Turkey, China and even Ukraine.
            Therefore, it is necessary to bite the bullet and while fighting for the restoration of Russia in the framework of this system. And we must not be ashamed, but always remember who our enemies are, and in the case when Russia will dominate the World, only then will the proletariat again take power into their own hands. Power can be taken in a peaceful way, but the bloodshed by the oligarchs will still be unleashed, they will begin a new civil war. And since all power is only power when it can protect itself, then it will be necessary, like Pavka Korchagin with a machine gun and grenades, to destroy all this bloodthirsty evil spirits and then it will not be a shame for a life that has not been lived aimlessly.
            1. VseDoFeNi 6 September 2015 15: 50 New
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              the proletariat again take power into their own hands

              Was power in the hands of the proletariat? request
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        2. Next 5 September 2015 20: 01 New
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          Sorry to you “-” and not because of Donbass, Kharkov ... and Transnistria. And about shame. Because the word SHAME, in my opinion the blue word CONSCIENCE. And I disagree about the upbringing. It is best to educate by personal example and not rely on Marya Petrovna at school, television or neighbors. Yes, and proud of the fact that in the yard there is a little less manure than that of a neighbor, you see, is it not so? Do not find? After all, it turns out that you still live in manure. Probably something like this in my opinion.
        3. Tambov Wolf 5 September 2015 21: 30 New
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          And to whom to educate? The guarantor, he refuses his words and he is fine. The iPhone doesn’t see anything further than the gadget, and so it’s wonderful. The governors aren’t up to us, they’re sawing “cabbage” while they’re giving, The power is the same below. The family remains. and the school. Everything is clear with the school, Americans are already teaching teachers, and students can send a big teacher to a fat and big one and give a mug, they still will not do anything — they’re still children. The family is the last bastion, but the khan is also suitable for him. Mother and father plow till late at night, but grab the weekend, the salary is not enough, how much will come, they will receive so much, but they will pay the state for everything, remaining with hell and everybody. There is no time for education (but these are in good families). And in bad ones? In general, there were grandmothers with grandfathers, but not everyone. And the grandfathers had a backache, then sores, sand poured. In the USSR, there was some kind of upbringing and that was torn (Gorbachev, Yeltsins and others like them ) .And now young people from all screens are taught to grab more, but to walk on corpses. So either we must again introduce the Soviet system of education or in 25 years there will be a semi-Russian-semi-American who speaks semi-English slang. In one word, Ivan, who does not remember kinship.
          1. Vitaly72 5 September 2015 23: 26 New
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            Bravo Wolf! All about the case
        4. Yars 5 September 2015 21: 44 New
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          Russians are not only in Kharkov and Donbass, Russians are in all of Ukraine, but many are intoxicated by oligarchic media that are controlled from outside and history textbooks that are also written under dictation from the west. As for garbage, it is necessary not only to educate through the media, but also from kindergarten and school, then these children will make remarks to their parents seeing how they throw garbage not into an urn!
      2. SRC P-15 5 September 2015 15: 15 New
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        And our shame, our ability to be ashamed is needed precisely by this country and ourselves. Our people and our children.

        You can be ashamed, but proud of this shame, you can’t!
        1. dlouraques 5 September 2015 19: 19 New
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          These words in general with what sense?
          An attempt to covert remarks to the head of our state? Our country is one such, there are no others. One of the few states on the planet, although it is more correct to say the only one that has its own opinion before the "democrats" and can stop them, besiege them. They will not calm down on their mistakes in any way; they continue to foment war and unrest. But time will put everything in its place. Immunity from parasites is necessary and this is enough.
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      4. Asadullah 5 September 2015 17: 39 New
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        I did not understand.


        Similarly. What a verbal blizzard.
      5. proletarian 5 September 2015 19: 46 New
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        If you do not understand what is written, read it again, slowly with the arrangement, and you will understand that this is a cry of the soul and a call not to "bend over".
        An example is near, Ukraine. I do not refuse my country of my compatriots, I am ashamed of our country (not the state because it burned out on May 2 last year in Odessa, in the house of trade unions), I am ashamed of our people who blame Russia for all their problems and the Russians.
        Afterword: Sorry to boil.
        1. severniy 5 September 2015 21: 14 New
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          Quote: proletarian
          If you do not understand what is written, read it again, slowly with the arrangement, and you will understand that this is a cry of the soul and a call not to "bend over".
          An example is near, Ukraine. I do not refuse my country of my compatriots, I am ashamed of our country (not the state because it burned out on May 2 last year in Odessa, in the house of trade unions), I am ashamed of our people who blame Russia for all their problems and the Russians.
          Afterword: Sorry to boil.

          Do not blame me, but I also, while reading fluently
          I’m catching the point, I myself am from Odessa, my wife is from Lviv, it’s so painful for me to read the news, But this article energizes tension as fast as possible, clinging to all sore topics (why ...) such as roads, Vasiliev, etc. . Once again I write, this is a provocative article, don’t tell me where you don’t put stresses .., with what speed do not read .....
          1. proletarian 6 September 2015 00: 05 New
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            Actually, this article was written for the Russians, so here Vasiliev and the rest Mr. whose we are "above the roof", while we are looking for some reason "a speck in the eye of a neighbor" although the "logs" of both of them are sticking out.
      6. barsik92090 6 September 2015 00: 29 New
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        Tovarisch confesses to his Western friends and as if justifies himself for his country and people, thinking that they will understand his difficult fate.
      7. Oper6300 6 September 2015 10: 01 New
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        Read it again. The article is not about Crimea, but about Russia and EVERYONE of us.
    2. jaguar 5 September 2015 16: 17 New
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      I agree with you an interesting article ... makes you think .... and as always, as I see the minusers have already come to you laughing
    3. Abbra 5 September 2015 21: 47 New
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      OOOOOOooooooooochen interesting.
    4. Ermak 6 September 2015 00: 23 New
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      Interesting ?????
      And our shame, our ability to be ashamed is needed precisely by this country and ourselves. Our people and our children.

      And we will not give up this shame to anyone and will not exchange anything for anything.

      According to the author, shame is -
      And with dirt, and with rude fellow citizens, and with Vasilyeva, and with roads and fools,
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      Dear author, there is too much negative for one article to our country, but reasonable criticism is needed, but this is not shame. They are ashamed before someone, and before whom you are ashamed, dear comrade. There is no answer in your article. So do not exact the guess - in front of abroad?
      What you wrote about is to pile up the dirt. Not only that, and mixed household level, and, politics. I believe that this dirt is everywhere !!! in the world!!! And at the household level, before being ashamed, think about whether it is worth taking out the garbage. Better show an example, make the situation next to you cleaner. Maybe others will reach for your initiative. In the Soviet Union there was such a story for children (I’m not quoting): “There was a log on the sidewalk and everyone had to step over or bypass it and everyone was indignant. And one boy, this log rolled away from the sidewalk and went on.”
      When my wife and I had occasions going out into the countryside and going to a place where vacationers had blamed us, we used to bring other people's garbage to the city and dumped them in litter bins. Yes, it can be one package, but if each one takes the package, or even better, takes it by itself, then there will be brilliance. So, comrade stop being ashamed and start with yourself and your friends. And I am proud of Russia, its history and grandeur, I am even proud of the present time, especially lately. And I am ashamed of no one!
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    5. Vend 6 September 2015 11: 26 New
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      Quote: Vladimir 1964
      Interesting article.

      Yes, there is something to think about, although it says something that has already been said more than once
      And imagine that there was no Crimea.
      But I do not want to imagine this. I don’t even want to think what horrors could happen there now.
  2. Eternal Watch 5 September 2015 15: 03 New
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    Very interesting article! +
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    quote "Let the Russian Federation be ashamed of the Russian Federation - it is not us, it has nothing to do with us. It is a foreign state, it is hostile to any Russian person. Saying that you are ashamed of it, you take its side. Relate to it, how about ISIS - are you ashamed of ISIS? "

    go to the ass dreamers .. I was born and raised on this land ... I am proud of Russia and the Federation as I was proud of the USSR .. this is my land and the land of my children.

    such dreamers fell into foreign lands in 90 .. where the ass was warm ... than now there is no reason to dump if everything is so bad ...
    1. vovanpain 5 September 2015 15: 13 New
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      Plus for you, if you could put more. I fully support and join.
      1. baltika-18 5 September 2015 16: 40 New
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        Quote: vovanpain
        Let the Russian Federation be ashamed of the Russian Federation - it is not us,

        Damn, Alexander, surprised. Accept my support in this matter.
        1. vorobey 5 September 2015 16: 51 New
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          Quote: baltika-18
          Damn, Alexander, surprised. Accept my support in this matter.


          Nikolai is a quote from the author .. you don’t understand it .. we are still on different sides ... I am part of Russia or the Russian Federation ... just like you and everyone else ...

          quoted Confucius as something

          Beware of people who want to instill a feeling of guilt in you .. because they crave power over you ...

          there are examples in history. -Germans after the Second World ...
          1. baltika-18 5 September 2015 17: 03 New
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            Quote: vorobey
            Nikolai is a quote from the author .. you do not understand .. we are still on different sides ..

            Well .... All the little things in life. The barricade will not happen anyway, so it’s a bit of a chat, it’s boring sometimes, I go to see what the people are saying. But the revolution, Alexander, will be. The revolution is in the minds of people. Nothing funs like that soul when the expected tragedy turns into farce.
            1. vorobey 5 September 2015 17: 06 New
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              But the revolution, Alexander, will be. The revolution is in the minds of the people


              Yes, I don’t mind .. let the minds rage drinks By the way, Kolya and I caught other notes in you ... so mine hi
            2. rosarioagro 5 September 2015 17: 13 New
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              Quote: baltika-18
              But the revolution, Alexander, will be. The revolution is in the minds of people. Nothing amuses the soul when the expected tragedy turns into a farce.

              I also think so, as Wasserman said that socialism was coming with the help of high technology, now I’m all wondering what he had in mind?
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                Quote: rosarioagro
                I also think so, as Wasserman said that socialism was coming with the help of high technology, now I’m all wondering what he had in mind?

                We’ll soon find out that it’s 21 years in the yard. I think a radical revision of knowledge and a qualitative leap in development are expected.
                Quote: vorobey
                By the way, Kolya and I caught other notes in you.

                I'm not bloodthirsty wink, became indifferent to the conqueror of the deep sea, the leader of the Siberian Cranes. But he was my favorite character. Even a little sad. what
                1. vorobey 5 September 2015 19: 21 New
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                  Quote: baltika-18
                  , became indifferent to the conqueror of the deep sea, the leader of the Siberian Cranes. But he was my favorite character. Even a little sad


                  But this is something that any government and any leader can not stand-indifference .. good
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                    The more indifference the common people express to the acts of power, the more fear and repression do they push these unshakable institutions.
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                    Quote: vorobey
                    But this is something that any government and any leader can not stand - indifference.

                    Of course. Moreover, breaking the spears in the internet because of the simulacrum, in fact, just pictures on the TV screen. There is no point.
                    Someone believes, adores. Let me. What is this? Nothing, you can not redo me.
                    Quote: Thunderbolt
                    The more indifference the common people express to the acts of power, the more fear and repression do they push these unshakable institutions.

                    This is dangerous for any government, Gromoboy. Once upon a time I worked as the deputy head of the repair production department, went to production, the repair service was in a deplorable state. I put together a meeting, said that I would "tighten the screws" in response from the back rows (it was in the assembly the hall) it sounded like “you will tear the thread.” I had to answer “it’s okay, we’ll cut it small.” I knew what to do, so I wasn’t afraid. Does our government know what to do. Most likely there is no.
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                      There began a period of confusion and reeling.
                      It’s just that incomes from the state feeding service are decreasing due to the subsidence of our raw material economy, so the rats bite in the struggle for this (control over state finances). The unforgettable Sakhalin governor Khoroshavin (underground nickname --- brook) was presented to the media as a lonely villain, but here he is put (under house arrest laughing ) and you can beat the timpani --- the eradication of corruption has begun, Putin has given a signal (and all that). REALLY in the interests of Sechin and Gazprom clashed on Sakhalin. Sechin won, the local governor as a loser will break us another "vanka-vstanka" on we’ll hardly sit down on the topic of the fight against corruption. And if it does, then it will serve in Vasilyevsky laughing Damn, under oil hymns about stable stability and ".. all as one .." the country enters the calendar autumn. The holidays are over and I have a feeling that this autumn is preparing surprises
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                        Quote: Thunderbolt
                        the country is entering the calendar autumn. The holidays are over and I have a feeling that this autumn is preparing surprises

                        You don’t feel the feelings. You wrote it right. The crisis is just beginning. The first sign is the construction industry is sinking. We have a powerful office in Ivanovo, 2500 people are working, 1000 have already been reduced. The remaining salary was paid only recently for February.
              2. severniy 5 September 2015 19: 13 New
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                Quote: baltika-18
                But the revolution, Alexander, will be. The revolution is in the minds of people. Nothing amuses the soul when the expected tragedy turns into a farce.

                I also think so, as Wasserman said that socialism was coming with the help of high technology, now I’m all wondering what he had in mind?


                yes citizenship wants a fox face ... :)
    2. Uncle Joe 6 September 2015 01: 25 New
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      Quote: vorobey
      I am proud of Russia and the Federation as I was proud of the USSR before .. this is my land and the land of my children.
      In fact, this is called unprincipled opportunism - when the concept of "my land" strictly corresponds to the political boundaries of the state (and even more so when one blinds oneself to the quality and essence of this state).
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        Quote: Uncle Joe
        unprincipled opportunism


        we have different concepts about unprincipled adaptability ...
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  5. svp67 5 September 2015 15: 08 New
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    Damn it, I’m often ashamed of my State, but I’m proud of my Country. But this does not mean that I wish her revolutionary upheavals, I still wish evolution.
    1. Sibiryak 5 September 2015 15: 30 New
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      Quote: svp67
      I am often ashamed of my State

      It should be a shame not for the State, but for the actions and decisions of people who have been entrusted with the right to lead processes both in the state and beyond!
  6. rosarioagro 5 September 2015 15: 08 New
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    "... Imagine that there was no Crimea. That is, of course, it was, but it remained an autonomous republic within Ukraine"

    As we went there, we would have gone on vacation, otherwise the impression is like the presentation of “Herbalife” - “I was in the Crimea!”, As if the Crimea had just appeared :-)
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      Quote: rosarioagro
      "... Imagine that there was no Crimea. That is, of course, it was, but it remained an autonomous republic within Ukraine"

      As we went there, we would have gone on vacation, otherwise the impression is like the presentation of “Herbalife” - “I was in the Crimea!”, As if the Crimea had just appeared :-)


      For example, I have not been, but I often happen and I know the mood of people. By the way, the film "Crimea the way home", according to local residents, showed everything as it was ... Something like this ...
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        Quote: severniy
        By the way, the film "Crimea is the way home" according to local residents showed

        Quite right, he showed, before this film Putin said that the annexation of Crimea was based on the results of a referendum, in the film he says that the decision to annex Crimea was made before the referendum. very indicative as they say ...
        1. vorobey 5 September 2015 15: 35 New
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          Quote: rosarioagro
          Quite right, he showed, before this film Putin said that the annexation of Crimea was based on the results of a referendum, in the film he says that the decision to annex Crimea was made before the referendum. very indicative as they say ...


          do not distort .. and he said the truth .. the decision was made before the referendum or do you think the snot sat chewing and did not decide what to do ... and the referendum brought the car into action ...
          1. rosarioagro 5 September 2015 15: 50 New
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            Quote: vorobey
            and the referendum set the car in motion.

            This is a referendum, you can say decoration, an excuse if you want, in the USSR there was also a referendum and that the USSR was saved?
            1. vorobey 5 September 2015 15: 53 New
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              Quote: rosarioagro
              Quote: vorobey
              and the referendum set the car in motion.

              This is a referendum, you can say decoration, an excuse if you want, in the USSR there was also a referendum and that the USSR was saved?


              Tell me straight .. you are against ..
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                Tell me straight .. you are against ..

                Against what?
            2. severniy 5 September 2015 16: 09 New
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              Not the scenery, it was a mood monitoring. Maybe this did not play a decisive role, but Vova added confidence ...
          2. Uncle Joe 6 September 2015 02: 08 New
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            do not distort .. and he said the truth .. the decision was made before the referendum or do you think the snot sat chewing and did not decide what to do ... and the referendum brought the car into action ...
            Russian President Vladimir Putin first spoke about how the decision was made to join Crimea to Russia.
            "It was a night from 22 to 23 (February). We finished around 7 a.m. And when I parted, I will not hide, I said to all my colleagues (there were four of them): “The situation unfolded in such a way in Ukraine that we are forced to start work on the return of Crimea to Russia, because we cannot leave this territory and people who they live there at the mercy of fate under the rink of nationalists, "Vladimir Putin said in an interview for the television movie" Way to the Homeland ", the plot of which was shown on the TV channel Russia-1.
            http://xn--b1aga5aadd.xn--p1ai/2015/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D
            0% B029 /

            04.03.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX Russia has no plans to join Crimea to its territoryPresident Vladimir Putin said at a meeting with reporters on Tuesday.
            http://russian.rt.com/article/23593
            1. Cat man null 6 September 2015 02: 11 New
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              Quote: Uncle Joe
              from 22 to 23 (February). We finished around 7 in the morning. And when I parted, I will not hide, I said to all my colleagues (there were four of them): “The situation unfolded in this way in Ukraine, that we are forced to start work on the return of Crimea to Russia

              Quote: Uncle Joe
              04.03.2014 Russia has no plans to join Crimea to its territory, President Vladimir Putin said at a meeting with reporters

              Uncle Joe, but you certainly would have put the truth to the journalists in place of GDP ... yes, no, I don’t know?

              PS: If not "yes" - explain, plz - why did you just say that? wink
              1. Uncle Joe 6 September 2015 03: 05 New
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                but you certainly would have put the truth to the journalists in place of GDP
                To lie in such things in the era of satellite tracking means to lie exclusively to the population of your country - this makes no sense unless you work against the interests of this population.

                why did you say that now?
                What did you say?
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                  Quote: Uncle Joe
                  To lie in such things in the era of satellite tracking means to lie exclusively to the population of your country - this makes no sense unless you work against the interests of this population.

                  Oh really? belay

                  Quote: http://topwar.ru/42371-kak-amerikanskaya-razvedka-krym-promorgala.html
                  The Wall Street Journal recently talked about how American intelligence agencies slammed the Russian "invasion" of Crimea. In a material dated March 24, journalists Adam Entous, Julian E. Barnes, and Siobhan Gorman share their thoughts with the reading public about how Kremlin managed to fool not only intelligence analysts, but also military satellites tracking Crimea

                  Quote: Uncle Joe
                  What did you say?

                  IMHO some nonsense .. no? wink
                  1. Uncle Joe 6 September 2015 12: 36 New
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                    Oh really?
                    Ага.

                    Adam Entous, Julian E. Barnes and Siobhan Gorman reporters share with the reading public their considerations
                    Have you decided to play with words while considering this "fooling" from the position of stupidity of a kindergarten, or from the position of insanity in a nursing home?

                    And people - yes, he hawala and gives links to the opinion of the experts.

                    IMHO some nonsense .. no?
                    Which one?
                    1. Cat man null 6 September 2015 13: 35 New
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                      You now decided to play with words

                      Not me, but you.

                      Our mattress partners seemed to admit that they had "overslept Crimea." Despite the satellites ..

                      And Uncle Joe is against .. Baba Yaga, practical ..

                      Nevermind..

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                      Which one?

                      Umm .. obvious. No one canceled the disguise in the preparation and execution of operations (and especially of such large-scale ones as the Crimea, for example). Disinformation (read - deception) of the enemy is one of the components of this disguise. Nobody canceled it either.

                      Your original feed, “Putin Lied to Reporters,” is either utter stupidity or an unsuccessful attempt to troll. Your further fabrications on the subject of the "era of satellites" are an untalented attempt to move out. And you can hide from satellites ..

                      Something like that.
        2. severniy 5 September 2015 15: 36 New
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          The will of the people alone does not give anything, the example of Transnistria, Novarossia, etc., but you need to slide on the peninsula, but talk to the people .. I told them the identity: 90 percent does not happen! They answered: no, everyone went to vote, all for Russia ....
        3. Cat man null 5 September 2015 15: 38 New
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          Quote: rosarioagro
          before this film, Putin said that the annexation of Crimea occurred according to the results of the referendum

          Quote: rosarioagro
          in the movie he says that The decision to join Crimea was made before the referendum

          Is your logic lame, or does it seem to me?

          - the decision was taken. "Want", like, "to join." Will join or not - but how the bones will fall ..
          - and joined - precisely according to the results of the referendum
          - the only thing that Putin added is that Russia helped this.

          I wish I was surprised if it were somehow different belay
          1. Andrey_K 5 September 2015 16: 31 New
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            Correctly:
            "They decided to buy a car at the family council and my dad bought it."
            <mentally retarded people> in this phrase do not understand: so who bought the car dad or family council?

            A clear illustration of the fact that one’s brain is blocked, they will see evidence of their innocence in any phrase, even if the logic is lame on all legs.
      2. vorobey 5 September 2015 15: 29 New
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        but I often also know the mood of people


        Well .. the euphoria has subsided now .. but the people were ready for this ... I say mother-in-law, mother. she herself is kindness - go in the ass in-law .... but as for the black Ukrainians are envious who are now in the Crimea ... envy with shit and rushing ..
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          Mdyayaya, I, too, I think I would organize a tax break for them, because our prices are hard on them .....
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      Quote: rosarioagro
      As we went there, we would have gone on vacation, otherwise the impression is like the presentation of “Herbalife” - “I was in the Crimea!”, As if the Crimea had just appeared :-)

      Although history does not tolerate ... But you have to "deign" ...

      It is not yet known what and how it would be in Crimea, do not intervene in the Russian Federation. For some reason, it seems that the process of “squeezing the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation” would not have cost bloodlessly ...

      With Donbass, "exactly the opposite," Russia would intervene at the very beginning, during the Crimean Spring, so much blood would not have been ...

      The stink, the threats from Kiev, Brussels, Washington, would be, blood - No ...

      And now, and blood, and stink, and everything else, "in one bottle" ...
      1. vorobey 5 September 2015 16: 02 New
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        With Donbass, "exactly the opposite," Russia would intervene at the very beginning, during the Crimean Spring, so much blood would not have been ...


        questions put to a referendum in Crimea

        The list of referendum issues was approved on March 6, 2014. The referendum participants had to choose one of two options:

        “Are you for the reunification of Crimea with Russia as a subject of the Russian Federation?”

        “You are for the restoration of the 1992 Constitution of the Republic of Crimea and for the status of Crimea as part of Ukraine

        Questions at the referendum in Donetsk.

        The only question in two languages ​​(Russian and Ukrainian) was submitted to the referendum: “Do you support the act of state independence of the Donetsk People’s Republic?”

        Two possible answers were proposed: “Yes”, “No” [


        everything is exactly the opposite ... Moscow again?
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          Questions at the referendum in Donetsk.

          The only question in two languages ​​(Russian and Ukrainian) was submitted to the referendum: “Do you support the act of state independence of the Donetsk People’s Republic?”

          Two possible answers were proposed: “Yes”, “No” [


          everything is exactly the opposite ... Moscow again?

          It was supposed TWO consecutive referendum:

          1. On independence. (sovereignty from becoming fascist Ukraine)

          2. On joining the Russian Federation.

          After that there was a "pulling", with a call "to postpone, postpone, cancel" ... (WHERE ???)

          The SECOND referendum, while heeding the calls, was canceled. FIRST, due to the impossibility of being in the "legal field of Ukraine", they decided to hold, and held ...

          Turnout and rush were crazy. Such would be in the SECOND referendum.
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            This was followed by "pulling", with the call "to postpone, reschedule, cancel" ... (WHERE ???) SECOND referendum, heeding the calls, was canceled


            already quoted the words of one Svidomo with whom I had a chance to communicate ... and so he doused me with such a phrase

            you still howl from the number of lumpen and majors that you hung from the southeast ...

            the more I communicate with you, the more I understand how he is right in this .. We will always be guilty .. and we must always be you
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            All this, of course, yes.

            But. There are our Wishlist, but there is politics. Outer, worldview, etc.

            Crimea was needed urgently, because of the Navy Black Sea Fleet. He was taken urgently.

            But the Southeast is not needed. We need ALL Ukraine. As a buffer zone between Russia and NATO. And now they are solving this problem. Yes, people are dying. Yes, many more people will die. But ... Ce la politician ...
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          + Sparrow ... it was already somewhere that in milionnaya Donetsk, aaazh 7 came to a pro-Russian rally .... maybe that was why there was no decisive action on the part of the Russian Federation ...
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            + Sparrow ... it was already somewhere that in milionnaya Donetsk, aaazh 7 came to a pro-Russian rally .... maybe that was why there was no decisive action on the part of the Russian Federation ...



            OK, let's start counting ...


            Not lost And this is only a rally procession 01.03.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX ...

            It’s amazing to be ruined ... And this is without "polite people", SAMI.

            1. severniy 5 September 2015 16: 48 New
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              "On Lenin Square in the center of Donetsk, a rally began against separatism and for a united Ukraine.
              Thousands of people chant "Glory to Ukraine" and "Donetsk is Ukraine."
              Anyone who has something to say can speak from the stage.
              At the beginning of the rally it was announced that politicians would not speak today.
              Along the perimeter of the square, police officers maintain law and order ..... "

              And where was that? And I do not argue, I explain that Crimea is more united and more Russian for historical reasons .. IMHO ..
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                Quote: severniy
                "On Lenin Square in the center of Donetsk, a rally began against separatism and for a united Ukraine.
                Thousands of people chant "Glory to Ukraine" and "Donetsk is Ukraine."
                Anyone who has something to say can speak from the stage.
                At the beginning of the rally it was announced that politicians would not speak today.
                Along the perimeter of the square, police officers maintain law and order ..... "

                And where was that? And I do not argue, I explain that Crimea is more united and more Russian for historical reasons .. IMHO ..


                The fact that IMHO ...

                And moreover, based on false information ukroSMI ... Especially without reference to the source.

                Learn to separate the grains from the chaff, otherwise you will pull on your bran all your life ...
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                  Quote: severniy
                  "On Lenin Square in the center of Donetsk, a rally began against separatism and for a united Ukraine.
                  Thousands of people chant "Glory to Ukraine" and "Donetsk is Ukraine."
                  Anyone who has something to say can speak from the stage.
                  At the beginning of the rally it was announced that politicians would not speak today.
                  Along the perimeter of the square, police officers maintain law and order ..... "

                  And where was that? And I do not argue, I explain that Crimea is more united and more Russian for historical reasons .. IMHO ..


                  The fact that IMHO ...

                  And moreover, based on false information ukroSMI ... Especially without reference to the source.

                  Learn to separate the grains from the chaff, otherwise you will pull on your bran all your life ...

                  where am I miserable then ... and ATP for wise advice ...
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                  and somehow I talked with two businessmen from the Donbass, father and son .., blurted out that I was from Odessa (though I haven’t been living there for 35 years), so they told me: why are you Odessa silent ??, barely restrained, what would you not ask .. but what are you relatives not in the trenches near Donetsk ... so please reprove this to you, but I’m like a thread with my own little mind ... because I know for the Crimea, and I’m not fugitive from the east of Ukraine I’ve seen one .., but with arms and legs for some reason ...
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                  Quote: Tanais

                  And moreover, based on false information ukroSMI ... Especially without reference to the source.


                  you have all the arguments for the false media outlets ...

                  Quote: Tanais
                  Learn to separate the grains from the chaff, otherwise you will pull on your bran all your life ...


                  I repeat once again ... the bonds of Minsk and the hand of Moscow go to the ass .. if you think that you were stabbed, get up and demand ... as there were kraehatniks and you have remained .. we don’t owe you anything and no one moves a finger while you 9 out of 10 will not be assembled and will not declare a referendum and not two in turn ... sort yourself out first yourself and do not shift to an uncle from Moscow.
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                    I repeat once again ... the bonds of Minsk and the hand of Moscow go to the ass ..

                    Obviously, rudeness, at birth, before you degenerated ...
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                      Quote: vorobey
                      I repeat once again ... the bonds of Minsk and the hand of Moscow go to the ass ..

                      Obviously, rudeness, at birth, before you degenerated ...


                      hypothetically I admit ... but not offended ..

                      you talk a lot about the puts ... but you don’t want to get out of them yourself - do you like it? then there’s nothing to build a victim of yourself ... in criminology there is such a thing - victimization and often it even manifests itself unconsciously .. you knowingly build a victim out of yourself and your own kind ...

                      unlike you, there are others .. helped a family of refugees from Lugansk ... how much shame was in their eyes when I told them - write what we need to bring ... they said yes we don’t need much, we ourselves .. we are a little bit .. a grandmother of 67 years and six children with her. while the adults remained in Lugansk ... the adobe hut in two rooms with a stove ... got nicely settled down .. and the adults arrived and the men are working ... already two .. the youngest 19 was just fulfilled .. and they do not moan and do not blame the bonds of Minsk and Moscow’s darkest hand .. although they threw both houses and the house there ... and the other day I saw a plowman with VGZ numbers - blacks still ... I don’t know Lugansk region I’ve probably bought a penny with bullets and a ruffled system of materials .. you just sit and everyday exploits in nete commit exposing and complaining. ugh on you again tongue
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                        Quote: Tanais
                        Tanais


                        Tanais, if you haven’t understood yet, I’m not against you personally and not against Donbass .. I’m against your position .. we won’t do anything for you .. together with you yes ... but never instead of you ..

                        I bow to those who have not left and remained on their land ... hi
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                        hypothetically I admit ... but not offended ..

                        Admit it. But I don’t need assumptions to realize that the Donbass and we are not together “offended”, as you assume, but hostages ...

                        The hostages are big and dirty fuss. God willing, understanding this will come to you over time. When everything is resolved.

                        It will not come, and okay, there will be a minority of those ...
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                        Quote: Tanais
                        The hostages are big and dirty fuss. God willing, understanding this will come to you over time. When everything is resolved.


                        I wrote about victimization above .. you don’t understand anything ...
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          it was already somewhere that in milionnaya Donetsk, aaazh 7 came to a pro-Russian rally .... maybe that was why there was no decisive action on the part of the Russian Federation ...

          And in Simferopol, four thousand came out before the parliaments, and what of this?
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            Quote: rosarioagro
            And in Simferopol, four thousand came out before the parliaments, and what of this?


            you were there? you saw?
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            Quote: severniy
            it was already somewhere that in milionnaya Donetsk, aaazh 7 came to a pro-Russian rally .... maybe that was why there was no decisive action on the part of the Russian Federation ...

            And in Simferopol, four thousand came out before the parliaments, and what of this?


            I don’t want to denigrate the nation, but all were for Russia, and several hundred Crimean Tatar people tried to sabotage with the submission of the Dzhemilev, but most are most ...
            ps yes there on the square would not fit ... :)
  • Alex Nick 5 September 2015 15: 08 New
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    If not us, then who will change something in our life? Even being in the "couch troops" you can change people's opinion in a good way. Our indignation and indignation on various issues do not pass unnoticed.
  • Kos_kalinki9 5 September 2015 15: 11 New
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    Rulers come and go, but the homeland remains. And since I was born in this country, if this is my Homeland, I must cherish it and protect it.
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      hi good "Richt oder Unricht - maine Vaterland" soldier
  • shinobi 5 September 2015 15: 12 New
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    What kind of attempt to arrange a srach on the resource? The article smells bad. I own a little NLP and claim that the hidden message of the article provokes a negative reaction from the reader. Especially the central part. Even the format is in command form. And the beginning and the end, for health, it seems, distracting formulas.
    PS: Do not rush to minus me, read the opus carefully.
    1. Cat man null 5 September 2015 15: 17 New
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      Quote: shinobi
      I own a little NLP

      Stop owning it, for your own good laughing

      Quote: shinobi
      hidden message of the article cause a negative reaction from the reader

      I did not see this ..

      Quote: shinobi
      The article smells bad

      In which place? Summary: "this is my country, despite the fact that not everything is in it .. in chocolate, and I know about it."

      Under which with pleasure and subscribe. Article +
      1. severniy 5 September 2015 15: 30 New
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        But besides shameful and disgusting, the author somehow did not express his intention to collect garbage at the edge, it’s better to just be ashamed ... Minus the article, it’s a pity that one ....
        1. adamas.k 5 September 2015 16: 47 New
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          also minusanul - doing nothing to sit and be ashamed, bullshit. There should always be a positive example.
      2. Kos_kalinki9 5 September 2015 15: 30 New
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        For Cat ManNull Well answered. ++++
        Not everything is so smooth in the kingdom of Denmark, but it is our country and we and our children live here. Sorry for the excessive pathos
      3. shinobi 6 September 2015 03: 30 New
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        The article is designed for people like you. And yes, the author is well done, he achieved his goal.
        PS: If you don’t see microbes, for example, or don’t know, this doesn’t mean that it is not.
        1. Cat man null 6 September 2015 03: 45 New
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          Quote: shinobi
          And yes, the author did well, he achieved his goal.

          I chewed it in detail below

          - why this article is written
          - where does so much "bashfulness" come from
          - ...

          It’s only a pity that “a rare bird will reach the second page of comments” laughing

          Beacon:

          Quote: Cat Man Null
          - the article is a “motivated objection” to a certain Oleg Kashin, on his article “Let the Russian Federation be ashamed of the Russian Federation”

          http://kashin.guru/2015/08/25/pust-za-rossijskuyu-federatsiyu-budet-sty-dno-ross
          ijskoj-federatsii /

          Next - look at the "source", much will be revealed to you.

          Quote: shinobi
          The article is designed for people like you.

          You ... that .. explain already, on which - "such" .. It would be funny to listen laughing
          1. Kos_kalinki9 6 September 2015 05: 47 New
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            good And why should the "comrade" read the source, he has a microscope and he SEES what we and you are not given.
            1. shinobi 6 September 2015 10: 20 New
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              Especially if the article is the answer. And to watch how opponents pick their hands in alien and private complexes.
  • iliitchitch 5 September 2015 15: 16 New
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    Shame, shame, shame ... But how much can you chew the snot intellectual in chocolate with an incurable desire for "maso"? Yes, everything is not all right in our stable, so what? Well, the work is going on, for decades more. Some Aldebarans will arrive tomorrow with a friendly visit and say: "Hello, brothers, are you here Voyagers rushed to invite you to visit your galactic outback?" . And we still have America and Canada unkempt in the morning. Then the guests will be ashamed of their (Westerners) deceit, rudeness, arrogance, etc. It's me that you need to think broader.
  • afdjhbn67 5 September 2015 15: 22 New
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    peace for the dead .. land to peasants, factory workers
    pushes the author, on the site it would be easier to write aff.tor zhzhot. The state is WE, that would not inspire us about cogs and tongues ..
  • nozdrevat58 5 September 2015 15: 24 New
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    go to the ass dreamers .. I was born and raised on this land ... I am proud of Russia and the Federation as I was proud of the USSR .. this is my land and the land of my children.
    And it is right! I live in central Russia. In the thirties, my grandfather went with his family to earn money in Donbas. My mother was born there. There was a war. My grandfather died near Voronezh. Donbas he is ours, Soviet, but not Zapodensky - not Bender
  • vovanpain 5 September 2015 15: 24 New
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    Why am I ashamed of this is my Homeland. I was born here, I live here and die only here. And of course she has flaws, but this is my Homeland and I love her, and whoever doesn’t like it, brought the suitcase and wherever you want.
  • fzr1000 5 September 2015 15: 25 New
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    Aesopian language on the site is not held in high esteem.
    1. Eternal Watch 5 September 2015 15: 27 New
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      Quote: fzr1000
      Aesopian language on the site is not held in high esteem.

      +100500 good drinks
    2. Tanais 5 September 2015 15: 42 New
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      Quote: fzr1000
      Aesopian language on the site is not held in high esteem.


      Because they do not want to think. They develop in themselves "plane-parallel thinking," and hope that someone will chew and put in their mouths ...
      1. rosarioagro 5 September 2015 15: 53 New
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        Quote: Tanais
        and they hope that someone will cheat and put it in their mouth ...

        There is such a phenomenon, I call it "live TV" :-)

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          Quote: rosarioagro
          Quote: Tanais
          and they hope that someone will cheat and put it in their mouth ...

          There is such a phenomenon, I call it "live TV" :-)



          Well, you demonstrated your thinking and logic above ...
          1. Tanais 5 September 2015 16: 32 New
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            Well, you demonstrated your thinking and logic above ...



            Well, you run up. You will be offended ...

            Stay within, do not get personal.
            1. vorobey 5 September 2015 16: 59 New
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              Well, you run up. You will be offended ...


              take offense? .. against you? .. are you offended .. the hand of Moscow, the bonds of Minsk

              jerking, leashes ... ugh.
  • RiverVV 5 September 2015 15: 26 New
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    I will say one clever thing to the author. Just don't be offended. What is he dreaming about in his toilet for his beloved? Not the main thing.
  • silberwolf88 5 September 2015 15: 27 New
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    Paradoxically, BUT - a fact ... there are no Russian diasporas abroad (sometimes there are settlements of believers of course) ... in the second generation, Russians usually assimilate ... adopt the local culture and traditions ... therefore ... in order to remain Russian. .. a person needs the Russian State ... The conclusion is quite simple ... I personally accept it calmly ... THE STATE ABOVE SEPARATELY TAKEN OUT OF PERSONALITY ...
    This is my country ...
  • exalex2 5 September 2015 15: 29 New
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    “And I’m ashamed of fools and roads. And there aren’t enough hospices. There aren’t enough schools, kindergartens, hospitals. Parenting, honesty, conscience are often not enough.
    Under my windows, the entire edge of the forest is filthy. "Citizens rest and leave traces of their rest everywhere - packaging, pieces of paper, bottles, barbecues."
    It’s hard to disagree. I have the same garbage at work and around the house. We do not live but survive. The result of the exam is unique. When Parents make money and they don’t care what the children do. There’s simply nothing to pay for housing and communal services, otherwise you can become a “homeless person” with your children. A wonderful "social" state .. What they wanted, they built it .. Rather, it built it.
    1. tokens2 5 September 2015 19: 47 New
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      Under my windows, the entire edge of the forest is filthy. "Citizens rest and leave traces of their rest everywhere - packaging, pieces of paper, bottles, barbecues."

      And under my windows there are banks with advertising for a payday loan.
      Even the converted tourist van stood. Converted to a mobile office loan up to 100t.r.
      Sometimes I go out and look to the window ... there is still a young girl with two children, discussing the terms of the "loan". To eat children and drink herself to forget about such a life.
      And after all, healthy Russian men work in the ento sphere. Security guards. Ugh.
      Samoyeds.
  • sabakina 5 September 2015 15: 31 New
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    No guys. The inner scent tells me: "We will live."
    The passing war, and the music is eternal!
  • 79807420129 5 September 2015 15: 44 New
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    I was ashamed of EBN for his drunken tricks, for the spat on the state, and now I have nothing to be ashamed of, we have shortcomings and we must cope with them and correct them, but we need to love our homeland, because it is only one like the mother.
    1. rosarioagro 5 September 2015 16: 00 New
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      Quote: 79807420129
      and now I have nothing to be ashamed of

      those. Was Vasilyeva all right?
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        Quote: rosarioagro
        Quote: 79807420129
        and now I have nothing to be ashamed of

        those. Was Vasilyeva all right?

        Bad with Vasilyeva, bad. And then what? Will we hate Russia with all its history? That is, one Blendinka outweighed everything positive? Well, THEN GIVE MAIDAN ON THESE REASONS WE BUILD, we’ll go out to the swamp, we can drive to Kostroma, balance Navalny for his meeting with the curators. And what? We are desperate.
        1. rosarioagro 5 September 2015 16: 41 New
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          . And then what?

          Good question, it’s good that you start to ask it, maybe you can find the answer, don’t have to repeat about the Maidan after others, this is an invention of another country
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            Quote: rosarioagro
            Quote: Kos_kalinki9
            . And then what?

            Good question, it’s good that you start to ask it, maybe you can find the answer, don’t have to repeat about the Maidan after others, this is an invention of another country

            Have you already found the answer? Something in your comment I did not see this. And we don’t need to blame about the Maidan, three years ago we considered the Ukrainians brothers, almost our country. Well, let's call the riot, since the Maidan is not like. The essence of this does not change. And about what I have been asking myself and others for a long time.
            1. rosarioagro 5 September 2015 17: 10 New
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              Have you already found the answer?

              No, I did not find, in the sense of specificity, if I could offer a formulated goal, wow, I would be quoted :-)
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                Well, without specifics, well, at least thinking out loud. Or are you still waiting for an insight to quote?
        2. giperion121 5 September 2015 17: 07 New
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          Maidan is not necessary, but rallies should be. Otherwise, it turns out that people shawl, and all do not care for such matters with Serdyukov, Vasilyeva, Chubais and others.
          1. Cat man null 5 September 2015 17: 10 New
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            Quote: giperion121
            Maidan is not necessary, but rallies should be. Otherwise it turns out that people shawal,

            Plyusan, perhaps .. "a system without negative feedback .. is unstable" wink
            1. Kos_kalinki9 5 September 2015 17: 22 New
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              Quote: Cat Man Null
              Quote: giperion121
              Maidan is not necessary, but rallies should be. Otherwise it turns out that people shawal,

              Plyusan, perhaps .. "a system without negative feedback .. is unstable" wink

              Guys. we have local elections soon. I asked if you would go, the answer is why? And then we complain that the deputies and officials are bad. Themselves moved away from everything and wait for the uncle from the side who will do everything for us. Just do not repeat the famous phrase by I.V. Stalin about the election results and calculations.
  • Tusv 5 September 2015 15: 50 New
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    Just stop treating the Russian Federation as your state.

    This is why the Russian Federation is not my state? Even Comrade Stalin said that he was Russian of Georgian nationality. This is the power !!!
    Less to you author. This must be earned very meticulously. It would be better if I read Gumilev’s “Earth Biosphere” - everything is said about us there. Why are we good and why are we worse than nuclear war when they attack us.
    And so summarized, read article 27 of our constitution and do not write garbage
    1. Kos_kalinki9 5 September 2015 16: 04 New
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      Have you read the article carefully, or what?
      1. Tusv 5 September 2015 17: 19 New
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        Quote: Kos_kalinki9
        Have you read the article carefully, or what?

        What purpose are you interested in? It hurts a strange question. Even so, it is written
        1. Everyone who is lawfully in the territory of the Russian Federation has the right to freely move around, choose the place of residence and residence.
        2. Everyone can freely travel outside the Russian Federation. A citizen of the Russian Federation has the right to return unhindered to the Russian Federation.

        Of course, if you live according to the laws of the Russian Federation
        1. Kos_kalinki9 5 September 2015 17: 53 New
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          Yes, just the phrase that you attributed to the author of the article does not belong to him, but as he put it in the article “dreamer”.
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      Gumilyov’s theory * passionary * - something, i.e. nothing to do with, his head * baked by the sun * and looking - the event happened. Only the sun illuminates the whole earth, and events are local.
      1. Tusv 5 September 2015 17: 22 New
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        Gumilyov theory * passionary *

        I have not read it and the word * passionary * I do not know
        1. Tambov Wolf 5 September 2015 21: 50 New
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          You and Dolores Ibbaruri don’t know? What is interesting in schools now? Probably nothing. Probably like having a neighbor's grandmother out of pocket to steal in a "legal" way.
  • Zomanus 5 September 2015 15: 57 New
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    Interesting article. But just being ashamed is one thing. It is necessary to propose ways to correct this, to act on our own. At least at the minimum level of assistance to those who are near you. Well, as for the article, it is necessary to format the society in the direction of the eastern system, when everything is built into one society and society brings up. That's how it was in Soviet times. And now, Western behavior, when each member of society has a stake in what others will think about him.
    1. ALEA IACTA EST 5 September 2015 17: 17 New
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      society needs to be formatted towards the eastern system

      It’s not worth following anyone. Russia has its own path: west and east are equally alien to us.
  • Basil50 5 September 2015 16: 11 New
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    The raider seizure of OUR country was successful, and now the new owners are fattening, and if they do anything for the country, then only by necessity. Do not be surprised at inflation, all retail trade from private owners, production is also private, even weapons. Having stolen state property, they hired all kinds of talkers and provocateurs who lie, according to * internal * conviction. How many professors-like experts lie about the involvement of traitors, but they * were fed * and given the opportunity to lie loudly. So this did not happen * suddenly *, not suddenly, they prepared and sought support abroad and inside the country they looked for villains, and as soon as the destruction of the SOVIET UNION and then the theft of state property took place. And now, so, we exist, when the attack on OUR COUNTRY takes place, only then will the possibility of * unity * of the owners and * people * arise. Just like in 1914, and with the same result.
    1. Eternal Watch 5 September 2015 16: 20 New
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      Vasily50, I firmly squeeze your hand for a clear statement of the situation. soldier
      Thank you!
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        Thank you.
    2. severniy 5 September 2015 16: 35 New
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      Quote: Vasily50
      The raider seizure of OUR country was successful, and now the new owners are fattening, and if they do anything for the country, then only by necessity. Do not be surprised at inflation, all retail trade from private owners, production is also private, even weapons. Having stolen state property, they hired all kinds of talkers and provocateurs who lie, according to * internal * conviction. How many professors-like experts lie about the involvement of traitors, but they * were fed * and given the opportunity to lie loudly. So this did not happen * suddenly *, not suddenly, they prepared and sought support abroad and inside the country they looked for villains, and as soon as the destruction of the SOVIET UNION and then the theft of state property took place. And now, so, we exist, when the attack on OUR COUNTRY takes place, only then will the possibility of * unity * of the owners and * people * arise. Just like in 1914, and with the same result.


      Clear and true!
      And it works even more against the author sitting on the pope evenly and crying, that everything is bad .. Again, I write, at least raise the fifth point and remove it in the forest, the country will become better!
      And the raiders, they are not from the president .. We ourselves silently fed them, I remember how I sold our voucher to the director and how he exchanged money for reform .. (there was a sum of money, who remembers) ...
      1. Basil50 5 September 2015 17: 05 New
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        Tales of * self-emergence * of corruption and * spontaneous generation * * of brothers * and all kinds of opposition, KGB professionals came up with.
        1. severniy 5 September 2015 19: 31 New
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          Tales of * self-emergence * of corruption and * spontaneous generation * * of brothers * and all kinds of opposition, KGB professionals came up with.


          with me in MY city they ceased to exist: a meat factory, a milk factory, a slaughterhouse, a garment factory, several construction trusts, a lot of boarding houses passed into private hands ... and I responsibly declare neither Putin nor the KGB involved in this ...
          1. Basil50 5 September 2015 20: 55 New
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            And you think, where did these * investors * come from, and fearlessly and with impunity they ruined for a penny, or even for free, privatized? Where did all these law enforcement officers look? Where all of these * brothers * came from, and they all turned out to be * untouchable * for punishment and rebuff. Only bandits have weapons, and God forbid * to offend * any of them, the policemen will protect them immediately and firmly. A lot of examples. Think about it.
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              And you think, where did these * investors * come from, and fearlessly and with impunity they ruined for a penny, or even for free, privatized?

              And again I repeat that in 1991 the corrupt brainless communists destroyed the USSR, tied the RUBLE to the DOLLAR, deprived our enterprises of work and financing, grabbed the country for a penny ...

              Putin is forced to correct the consequences of this destruction.

              Today, under Putin, people in Russia live as RICH as they never lived in the foreseeable past. Vivid evidence of this is the courtyards of Russian cities, clogged with cars, many of which were bought with overpayment on credit. This indicates that people have money to overpay and the lack of intelligence, so as not to overpay.
              And I will repeat it, as long as there are those who do not understand this.
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                In my opinion, this suggests that cars do not take on credit from a good life, but wild overpayments, that saving the drowning is the work of the drowning
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                  Quote: Vitaliy72
                  In my opinion, this suggests that

                  Quote: Vitaliy72
                  cars do not take a loan from a good life

                  belay and why belay
                  Quote: Vitaliy72
                  and wild overpayments that the salvation of drowning people was done by the hands of the drowning themselves ...

                  ... yeah .. and also - "not knowing the ford, do not poke your head in the water"
            2. severniy 5 September 2015 21: 31 New
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              And you think, where did these * investors * come from, and fearlessly and with impunity they ruined for a penny, or even for free, privatized? Where did all these law enforcement officers look? Where all of these * brothers * came from, and they all turned out to be * untouchable * for punishment and rebuff. Only bandits have weapons, and God forbid * to offend * any of them, the policemen will protect them immediately and firmly. A lot of examples. Think about it.

              But this is the legacy of the hunchbacked one, and if you have not noticed the GDP trying to at least do something, the same rot of Khodorkovsky is not in vain because he has sat down. And the Chubais’s friends didn’t just dump from the country .... But we don’t support, so with the filing of such scribblers we start screaming: there is no freedom in stranger, justice ... You yourself will figure out who your friend is, liberals (read Chubais, Khodorkovsky , and others ...), or those who press their genitals at least somehow (read the GDP, the KGB and others), at least think at least not, there are two sides to the coin, Volodya or pro-Europeans with shame for today's Russia. And you need to choose ...
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              2. Vitaly72 6 September 2015 00: 13 New
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                Do not tell me where is the chubais with pressed organs now?
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                if you haven’t noticed the GDP is trying to at least do something, the same rot of Khodorkovsky is not in vain because it has sat down. And Chubais’s friends didn’t just dump from the country ..

                Plin, here we think in a mirror .. I'm ready to subscribe to every word ..

                Quote: severniy
                And we don’t support it, so starting with the filing of such scribblers, we begin to yell: there is no freedom in a stranger, justice ..

                Well, not the same !!

                There is no this in the article, read it carefully again. There is no it there! And there is this:

                Yes, Kashin and I are ashamed of different things: he is ashamed for having sent Sentsov, and for me for letting Vasilyev go. Ernst Kudusov and Alfred Koch didn’t feel ashamed of Stomakhin’s sitting for what (for what? He merely called for the murder and discrimination of Russians), for me because of the ethnic insult made through the media

                What is wrong here? Yes everything is correct!

                There are those whom shame does not torment.

                And they have to deal with this country.

                And you with your “this is my country”, with your still working and living shame - you can stop this business. Of course, they can pass through you, but this will increase costs. And these people honor the rate of return.

                So yes - embarrassing.

                But we are not going anywhere. Because this is all ours.

                .

                And our shame, our ability to be ashamed is needed precisely by this country and ourselves. Our people and our children.

                And we will not give up this shame to anyone and will not exchange anything for anything.

                What is wrong here? Yes, everything is so again!

                Quote: severniy
                You yourself will figure out who your friend is ..

                Of course, GDP. Both to you and to me, and the author of the article. Read carefully already, do not be lazy!

                Quote: severniy
                And you need to choose ...

                I personally have long chosen for myself. And you, apparently, too .. and the author of the article - too ..

                And the funny thing is that we all chose the same thing. yes

                And the fact that you did not really understand the article, and rushed to fight with windmills - this is not a fortuneteller ..

                Read already, finally Fucking manual article carefully! stop

                PS: Replace “shame” with “indifference”, “a sense of responsibility”, or something .. so that it doesn’t hit the eyes - in the context of this article it is almost the same ..
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            and I responsibly declare neither Putin nor the KGB involved in this ...

            for the quirky “Aesopian language.” (see above for everyone) + 100500
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              Quote: Eternal Watch
              for the quirky “Aesopian language.” (see above for everyone) + 100500

              What would you say if you understood that it not banter and not Aesopian language ? And what about the "direct" speech? laughing

              Below from the post that you commented, look - very informative yes
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                And what would you say if you realized that this is not a banter?

                and you plus sign for banter good
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                  Quote: Eternal Watch
                  and you plus sign for banter

                  Bliiiin .. how everything is running ..

                  Quote: severniy
                  But this is the legacy of the hunchbacked one, and if you have not noticed the GDP trying to at least do something, the same rot of Khodorkovsky is not in vain because he has sat down. And the Chubais’s friends didn’t just dump from the country .... But we don’t support, so with the filing of such scribblers we start screaming: there is no freedom in stranger, justice ... You yourself will figure out who your friend is, liberals (read Chubais, Khodorkovsky , and others ...), or those who press their genitals at least somehow (read the GDP, the KGB and others), at least think at least not, there are two sides to the coin, Volodya or pro-Europeans with shame for today's Russia. And you need to choose ...

                  And so here?

                  It’s just that he wrote the comments above, and saw both messages .. IMHO not banter there, not banter at all no
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                  2. Eternal Watch 6 September 2015 02: 22 New
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                    no banter there, no banter at all no

                    You have a plus sign
                    1. Cat man null 6 September 2015 02: 37 New
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                      You have a plus sign

                      Yes, I have these pluses .. but for you - nothing (s) "The Godfather"

                      For gumnokartinki, the topic of discussion in no way related negative
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                        Yes, I have these pluses ..

                        Just wanted to express to you ....., oh well ...
                        And about the pictures and stuff .. (Aesopian language) the discussion says ....
                        Well, shah, she died, she died ..., with the wax "She drowned" .....
  • MIKHAN 5 September 2015 16: 13 New
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    I'm not ashamed! It happens offensively and bitterly, but with genes I always feel that it’s all temporary and the country will surely be cleaned of scum of all stripes (now this is just the next period) The article is twofold and leaves a bad sediment in my soul ..... Less!
  • Obolensky 5 September 2015 16: 13 New
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    All dreamers go in even rows on an erotic journey. You can dream falling asleep in a warm, cozy bed near the woman’s side and think about the fate of Russia, and how everything could be changed. But these are only dreams. Why all this: "But if ... That could be ...". We seem to live in the real world. With real problems, deeds and more. So why do we dreamers? We need pragmatists and realists who clearly know, or even predict the real state of things. And dreamers ... They have no place in this world. Let them dream of how Navalny and Co. and another shusher do it, how they will change Russia, and how they are now very ashamed of the country.
  • mikh-korsakov 5 September 2015 16: 37 New
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    Question with Vasilyeva. I am convinced that, yes, it’s insulting, but personally I’m not ashamed of it. If in this locality the judge turned out to be a doctor of justice or a holy night, then this is a question for a specific authority in the judicial system, which allowed the court to enter the court system. I do not believe that she was released by the will of the highest authorities, they are not suicides. but they were deficient in terms of the penetration of d.ur into the organs. It was a provocation of our liberal circles before the elections, which was successfully conducted by the lawyer Barshchevsky, not without reason he smiled so pretty at inspiring the people, they say, we have such a law. But laws are not given from God, but from power. They will be changed, in particular, house arrest will be counted in the ratio of 1: 2.
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      Quote: mikh-korsakov
      If in this locality the judge turned out to be a doctor of justice or a holy night, then this is a question for a specific authority in the judicial system, which allowed the doctor of justice to enter the judicial system. I do not believe that she was released by the will of the highest authorities, they are not suicides. but they were deficient in terms of the penetration of d.ur into the organs. E

      M-yes, just amazing, honestly :-)
      1. Kos_kalinki9 5 September 2015 20: 05 New
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        Well, actually, a federal judge is appointed by the President of the Russian Federation (Article 128 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation).
  • adamas.k 5 September 2015 16: 53 New
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    We’ve got it already, everyone is missing something, I’ve probably snickered. before they lived there was nothing at all and were kind and happy. We were happy that we were living. And now this dissatisfied has three cars per family and he whines that gasoline has risen in price.
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      And those who have three jeeps whine.
      Sun with them ... not enough.
  • polkovnik manuch 5 September 2015 17: 03 New
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    Patriotically, the epilogue doesn’t count, and the rest can be interpreted as follows: “And you do not sit down as friends, all the same, you are not good at musicians!” That's how our brains are littering.
  • iliitchitch 5 September 2015 17: 06 New
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    peace for the dead .. land to peasants, factory workers
    pushes the author, on the site it would be easier to write aff.tor zhzhot. The state is WE, that would not inspire us about cogs and tongues ..

    I watched the program a couple of months ago, Archpriest Vsevolod Chaplin spoke there. The words were remembered: "Europe is WE, but who are you?" . This answer was to the bluish question: "What to do?" . Yes, everything will be in order.
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      I support this is the real truth. And besides this, as if they didn’t say that medical policies mean anything, it’s not at all like that. And it doesn’t matter if you are healthy or disabled.
    2. vorobey 5 September 2015 17: 43 New
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      . Let’s check how many minuses appear here, it’s those who will bet who is here licking up the authorities for a plus sign. I’ve been to your minuses.


      I’ll take it upon myself ... delete it .. and now repeat it just as intelligibly only without obscenities and insults.
      1. severniy 5 September 2015 19: 42 New
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        Quote: vorobey
        Quote: smerx89
        . Let’s check how many minuses appear here, it’s those who will bet who is here licking up the authorities for a plus sign. I’ve been to your minuses.


        I’ll take it upon myself ... delete it .. and now repeat it just as intelligibly only without obscenities and insults.


        I spoke with a person with a series of 777 about five days ago ... he was very unsatisfied that we have portraits of certain people in each bureau’s office, a question, Poroshenko is a cool guy, would you go there, or to the Baltic states, there also Democracy, but if I like our president and don’t like the left, why is it called licking out the nth point? I don’t like the prime minister, but better than Vova, there’s no leader in the country now and there won’t be any in the foreseeable future !!! did not sing ....
        it’s like with LGBT, when heterosex scolds gays, this is bad .., and if a gooahm is dissatisfied with normal people, this is Democracy ...
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      1. vorobey 5 September 2015 19: 25 New
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        This .. Vasya .. I’m here with the authorities - I don’t lick. And to you - a fat minus, for which - I painted everything there like

        Somehow

        why deleted the comment ... plus ..
        1. Cat man null 5 September 2015 19: 31 New
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          why deleted the comment ... plus.

          It somehow hung in the air without a source laughing

          And who deleted the source? Voooot ..
          1. vorobey 5 September 2015 20: 26 New
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            Quote: Cat Man Null
            And who deleted the source? Voooot ..


            I only asked for a soft translation ... and where? By the way, if anyone thinks that everything in chocolate is deeply mistaken to me - also in loans like a Papuan in beads ... The leader begged me to collect them and pay them ... I go to the Crimea to work and not even have children at sea this year brought it ... I have three organizations and I pay taxes everywhere .. and so it got ... but groans of the offended got even more ..
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              Quote: vorobey
              I only asked for a soft translation ... and where?

              Well, shchazz .. there was such a stream of consciousness ..

              Quote: From memory about what was
              You go to Crimea = bourgeois and do not pay taxes = to blame for all my troubles

              The government of its ...

              100 lard bucks ... Capello ... how many llamas .. from our wallet .. 2.5 trillion .. and retire in 63 years .. narrow-eyed debts are written off ..

              But loans to workers are not written off (and who didn’t want to collect them, I ask?)

              In general, total fly away, not a life position laughing

              Quote: vorobey
              if anyone thinks that I have everything in chocolate, he is deeply mistaken

              Similar garbage .. I’m a hired labor force that can’t find any application request

              But somehow I think that these are my personal difficulties. Not governments and not yours hi
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              Quote: vorobey
              Quote: Cat Man Null
              And who deleted the source? Voooot ..


              I only asked for a soft translation ... and where? By the way, if anyone thinks that everything in chocolate is deeply mistaken to me - also in loans like a Papuan in beads ... The leader begged me to collect them and pay them ... I go to the Crimea to work and not even have children at sea this year brought it ... I have three organizations and I pay taxes everywhere .. and so it got ... but groans of the offended got even more ..

              Here for the ban children could b .... negative
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                Quote: severniy
                Here for the ban children could b.


                My wife wrote for such a ban for children ... but I have an excuse for an iron ... four children and we still do not fit in one car ...
  • rosarioagro 5 September 2015 17: 31 New
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    Offtopic by the way, but better check and take action:
    "... At the end of August, it turned out that Microsoft began the automatic distribution of updates for previous operating systems - Windows 7 and 8 - that integrate all the user tracking elements available in Windows 10 into the system.

    We are talking about updates with indexes:
    KB3068708
    KB3022345
    KB3075249
    KB3080149
    Once installed in the system (and in most cases, especially on office computers, the installation of updates takes place automatically), Windows 7 and 8 will begin to send user personal data to Microsoft.


    Details: http://regnum.ru/news/it/1963501.html Any use of materials is allowed only if there is a hyperlink to REGNUM IA. "
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      I have Windows on computer 10, everything itself has been updated, so they follow me and I write with pleasure about it: Obama is a smug black-maned baboon and a dunce. I'm waiting for sanctions
      1. severniy 5 September 2015 19: 46 New
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        I have Windows on computer 10, everything itself has been updated, so they follow me and I write with pleasure about it: Obama is a smug black-maned baboon and a dunce. I'm waiting for sanctions

        wa hahahhh the pluses in turnips are gone ...
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      Offtopic by the way, but better check and take action:
      "... At the end of August, it turned out that Microsoft began the automatic distribution of updates for previous operating systems - Windows 7 and 8 - that integrate all the user tracking elements available in Windows 10 into the system.

      We are talking about updates with indexes:
      KB3068708
      KB3022345
      KB3075249
      KB3080149
      Once installed in the system (and in most cases, especially on office computers, the installation of updates takes place automatically), Windows 7 and 8 will begin to send user personal data to Microsoft.


      Details: http://regnum.ru/news/it/1963501.html Any use of materials is allowed only if there is a hyperlink to REGNUM IA. "


      THX.
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      We have cracked systems, we don’t update them (updates are disabled). There is nothing to feed the Institute of Social Sciences, But thanks for the news.
  • tyras85 5 September 2015 17: 33 New
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    Quote: Sibiryak
    Quote: svp67
    I am often ashamed of my State

    It should be a shame not for the State, but for the actions and decisions of people who have been entrusted with the right to lead processes both in the state and beyond!


    Reasonable and true! I am still ashamed of the global UNPUNISHED robbery of our Russia. Peskov’s watches, the poverty of pensioners, the wild prices of food and medicine, the withdrawal of capital abroad = our annual budget with YOU RUSSIA! Close eyes? Keep silent? It’s possible, but I think it’s TO TRAIN Russia! RUSSIA is WE!
    If the LORD OF PEOPLE ceases to be silent, we will sweep away corruption! Not right away, hard, slow, but breaking! I believe. We will not have Maidanov! Russia is smart and intelligent! Movements will go when people open their eyes.
    They’ll think about what we leave to the children and grandchildren? AND DO WE LEAVE ??? (IMHO).
  • Borus017 5 September 2015 17: 45 New
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    Do you want to shoot? Shoot it. But do not talk much.
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      Quote: Borus017
      Do you want to shoot? Shoot it. But do not talk much.


      Do you speak peacocks?

      sometimes you have to answer for the shoot, it is better for someone else to shoot ... but you don’t have to answer for the words ... and tomorrow you can say something else ....
  • Yugra 5 September 2015 18: 10 New
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    About the fifth column, there’s only one conversation with her: through the sight of a sniper rifle. Everything. These are not my fellow citizens. The time will come, and I think it will come soon when I personally go to shoot scum like bulk, yashin, kasyanov. I’m waiting ...
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      through the scope of a sniper rifle

      And in the end, they will be made "martyrs." request
      Court-guillotine-hell. am
    2. severniy 5 September 2015 19: 49 New
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      Quote: Ugra
      About the fifth column, there’s only one conversation with her: through the sight of a sniper rifle. Everything. These are not my fellow citizens. The time will come, and I think it will come soon when I personally go to shoot scum like bulk, yashin, kasyanov. I’m waiting ...


      uh, chubais please do not forget .., honored comrade so to speak ...
      and the hodor didn’t look at me either ...
  • tyras85 5 September 2015 18: 33 New
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    Terry corruption is considered a global threat to Russia's security! To my deep regret, the Supreme Administrative Staff does not take concrete MER! I don’t see any understandable measures of influence on these destructive processes. Amid the extinction of the Russians and the impoverishment of the population, only ??? I would like to see intelligible managerial decisions, systematic, methodical, bloodless !!! Russia does not need maidans and “color” shocks! The people-voters should see work and actions, but not BOLTOVYA by box. They can’t, they don’t know - let the people be asked! We have set THEM ..., elected for good, entrusted to the Great State! RUSSIA!
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      We have set THEM ..., elected for good, entrusted to the Great State! RUSSIA!

      And once again I remind you that today under Putin, people in Russia live as RICH as they never lived in the foreseeable past. Vivid evidence of this is the courtyards of Russian cities, clogged with cars, many of which were bought with overpayment on credit. This indicates that people have money to overpay and the lack of intelligence, so as not to overpay.
      And I will repeat it, as long as there are those who do not understand this.

      Trust is justified.

      Yes, corruption is bad. Yes, it harms Russia. But if you speak of the bad, speak of the good. Otherwise, you yourself paint your country in an unsightly color.
      1. vorobey 5 September 2015 19: 28 New
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        And I will repeat it, as long as there are those who do not understand this.


        I like the dophenists .. I agree that everything around us is always to blame ... he admits himself to be a woodpecker, he says ... good
        1. VseDoFeNi 5 September 2015 20: 24 New
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          admits himself to be a woodpecker

          One wise man said: “I know that I know nothing.” It was a wise Socrates. That is, the wise recognizes himself as a "woodpecker". yes
      2. dlouraques 5 September 2015 19: 37 New
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        A strong state has a strong leader and internal order. Take our closest history (Nikolai II, Stalin, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Gorbachev Yesltsin, Putin) and the reality becomes clear. You don’t even have to say anything. You can also consider a distant story: Alexander Nevsky, Ivan the Terrible - already enough to confirm.
        Now the same. Criticism of power under any pretext (maybe there is a logical, but mostly complete nonsense) is extended to weaken the country. Examples of the 90s are enough for learning.
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          A strong state has a strong leader and internal order. Take our closest history (Nikolai II, Stalin, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Gorbachev Yesltsin, Putin) and the reality becomes clear. You don’t even have to say anything. You can also consider a distant story: Alexander Nevsky, Ivan the Terrible - already enough to confirm.
          Now the same. Criticism of power under any pretext (maybe there is a logical, but mostly complete nonsense) is extended to weaken the country. Examples of the 90s are enough for learning.


          Yeah, right now, Volodya, as a Terrible daughter, will decide and how Nevsky will rush to the Donbass, into the trenches ..., her, times are different, I don’t want saturation, but you can already compare him with Peter (maybe with a stretch) ...
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        under Putin, the people in Russia live as rich as they have never lived in the foreseeable past. Clear evidence of this are the yards of Russian cities, clogged with cars.
        But I just wonder recourse how long in the foreseeable future, will work "olginskaya mantra-manuals" on "Putin's well-being" .. request
        1. VseDoFeNi 5 September 2015 20: 30 New
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          for how long in the foreseeable future will the "Olga mantra training manual" work

          I can’t imagine what the "Olga mantra-training manual" is. But I see that in our provincial city we opened a large number of nail design studios and flower shops, and you won’t list everything. But there are people who persistently do not want to admit that in a poor country it is NOT-WHO-CAN-BUT !!!

          "How many adult fools live around me"Do not remember Makarevich by night.
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            Not by night be remembered Makarevich.


            let him hiccup ..
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            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            But I see that in our provincial city we have opened both nail design studios and flower shops, and you can’t list them all.
            It is significant that your list does not include real production enterprises, plants and factories .. request
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            But there are people who stubbornly do not want to admit that in a poor country it is NOT-WHO-CAN-BUT !!!
            It depends on what you compare it to. If with the less developed countries of Asia and Africa, then yes ..
            But if with the countries of Europe and North America and "Asian tigers", then ..
            Putin came after Yeltsin, and against his background, anyone would be a good president. And amid rising energy prices. In such conditions, it is easy to be a successful manager.
            And in the conditions of the collapse in oil prices, "the king was naked" .. negative
            And I think any fool is clear what is the merit of the "well-being" of recent years. And, certainly not GDP.
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            I have no idea what the "Olgin mantra-methodic" is
            If I were you, I would also say / write. Family, children, mortgages .. and you will not find work with such conditions and salary .. "My dream job good good "
            You, as an indexing spent wink ?! Compensate, so let's say losses ..
            This is Mihan, "the blessed patriot." He writes "for the idea," and not that you are a "professional" ...
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              It is significant that your list does not include real production enterprises, plants and factories ..

              In difficult times, if they build, then the enterprises of the real sector, and certainly not the nail design studio. fool

              Quote: Alibekulu
              But if with the countries of Europe and North America and "Asian tigers", then ..
              If you do not have enough for life and you are forced to borrow, increasing debt and are not able to repay it, then you are a loser, a pedal horse and a rogue, which today are the USA, the EU and others like them.

              Quote: Alibekulu
              If I were you, I would also say / write. Family, children, mortgages .. and you will not find work with such conditions and salary .. "My dream job

              You can talk to yourself as much as you like. I do not understand.
  • nrex 5 September 2015 18: 41 New
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    This entire article is not worth even a drop of attention because the next order from s. Why is this man not ashamed of the children killed and mutilated by the war, the elderly, the torn women? Come friend on YouTube there is a lot of cow - is it blood from Russian soldiers? Why are you not ashamed of a friend of the virtually wiped out cities of Syria. Is this Russia to blame? Like most Russians, I am not ashamed of being the most patient nation in the world. Sovereigns come and go, people remain people. Why ashamed of what he did not commit. Just think a piece of paper under the window was thrown, go take it away, there is no piece of paper and there is no shame. Or did you get pride? Who will return the legs and eyes to the children of Dombas. Who will bring home refugees from the Middle East? You don’t grieve about that, there are more serious things and it’s not the fault of the Russian people that they live in the richest country that they tear both from inside and outside. But internal problems fade into the background when an external threat appears. Your article is a provocation from an external enemy. With such articles, the Bolsheviks dabbled in the trenches. I hope the word provocateur is not new to you. They also interfere with the sour and the fresh, and the people will dissolve their ears and not hear behind the anger that arose from the heard, the main thing. This article is another spark to the Maidan in Russia. Do we need it? 95% of those for whom you are ashamed to stand up at the right time and do not run, but where will you be in which trench is the question? And are you Roman Nosikov? )))
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      Quote: nrex
      Your article is a provocation from an external enemy

      Nope ..

      Quote: nrex
      This article is another spark to the Maidan in Russia

      Not at all.

      Quote: nrex
      but where will you be in which trench is the question?

      Dear, kind advice to you: read the article to the end, carefully.. only then - write something there.

      I assure you - in the article (explicitly) there are answers to all your questions. yes
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        The novel, surprised, the site still has a lot of sane people.
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        Quote: Cat Man Null
        Quote: nrex
        Your article is a provocation from an external enemy

        Nope ..

        Quote: nrex
        This article is another spark to the Maidan in Russia

        Not at all.

        Quote: nrex
        but where will you be in which trench is the question?

        Dear, kind advice to you: read the article to the end, carefully.. only then - write something there.

        I assure you - in the article (explicitly) there are answers to all your questions. yes

        With your IQ, you Dear, you might know that when communicating with unfamiliar people it is customary to write to you and you, that is, from capital letters ... or is liberal laziness overtaken? Although with a commoner and so come .....
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          You Dear, you might know that when communicating with unfamiliar people it is customary to write to you and you, that is, from capital letters ...

          I don’t know .. to me personally - it’s absolutely exactly how they write me. If it’s critical for you - I can do it with a big one .. but I can send it in an emergency inadvertently ..

          Quote: severniy
          With your IQ ... with strangers ..

          Since, as you correctly noted, we know each other ... not very much - leave me alone, plz, from my IQ .. I don’t know him myself laughing

          Quote: severniy
          Although with a commoner and so come .....

          Well, do not be discouraged, do not ...

          Quote: severniy
          Quote: rosarioagro
          We are talking about updates with indexes:
          KB3068708
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          ATP

          ... same way, "common people".. pancake laughing
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            If for you


            Here it already gives rudeness .. I probably for an emergency good Your company is like me .......
            PS Perhaps I will dwell on this comment ...
            1. Cat man null 5 September 2015 22: 32 New
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              Quote: severniy
              If for you

              Pup. Corrected.

              Quote: severniy
              I’m probably for an emergency, I’m your company too

              Duc, this .. clave in hand and forth ..
    2. severniy 5 September 2015 21: 41 New
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      This entire article is not worth even a drop of attention because the next order from s. Why is this man not ashamed of the children killed and mutilated by the war, the elderly, the torn women? Come friend on YouTube there is a lot of cow - is it blood from Russian soldiers? Why are you not ashamed of a friend of the virtually wiped out cities of Syria. Is this Russia to blame? Like most Russians, I am not ashamed of being the most patient nation in the world. Sovereigns come and go, people remain people. Why ashamed of what he did not commit. Just think a piece of paper under the window was thrown, go take it away, there is no piece of paper and there is no shame. Or did you get pride? Who will return the legs and eyes to the children of Dombas. Who will bring home refugees from the Middle East? You don’t grieve about that, there are more serious things and it’s not the fault of the Russian people that they live in the richest country that they tear both from inside and outside. But internal problems fade into the background when an external threat appears. Your article is a provocation from an external enemy. With such articles, the Bolsheviks dabbled in the trenches. I hope the word provocateur is not new to you. They also interfere with the sour and the fresh, and the people will dissolve their ears and not hear behind the anger that arose from the heard, the main thing. This article is another spark to the Maidan in Russia. Do we need it? 95% of those for whom you are ashamed to stand up at the right time and do not run, but where will you be in which trench is the question? And are you Roman Nosikov? )))

      Beautifully written .. Respect ..
  • am808s 5 September 2015 18: 46 New
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    Some kind of nonsense barely read to the middle. For whom did they write? Can’t it be easier? He broke all the brains into pieces, all the convolutions he weaved. It just seems to me that the author needs a shot and not me miserable.
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      Some kind of nonsense barely read to the middle. For whom did they write? Can’t it be easier? He broke all the brains into pieces, all the convolutions he weaved. It just seems to me that the author needs a shot and not me miserable.

      If only you read it to the middle, then write a comment only to half. And if it seems, be baptized.
  • water 5 September 2015 18: 57 New
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    Good article! An article about us. It makes you think. However, judging by the statements on the forum, not all. It's a pity.
    1. Vladimir 1964 5 September 2015 21: 05 New
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      Good article! An article about us. It makes you think. However, judging by the statements on the forum, not all. It's a pity.

      Good comment, Vladimir, thoughtful.
    2. Cat man null 7 September 2015 10: 38 New
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      Quote: watermark
      It makes you think. However, judging by the statements on the forum, not all. It's a pity.

      Because -

      Mail arrives badly. I’m reading this letter, and I feel it didn’t reach no

      It’s just better to read this article along with the article, which the author opposes:
      http://kashin.guru/2015/08/25/pust-za-rossijskuyu-federatsiyu-budet-sty-dno-ross
      ijskoj-federatsii /

      Then the word "ashamed" ceases to creep into the eyes (and the people have basically broken down on this), and everything becomes clear and understandable yes
  • samarin1969 5 September 2015 19: 15 New
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    It looks like a mediocre smoke screen draining the DNI ...
    1. vorobey 5 September 2015 19: 29 New
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      Quote: samarin1969
      It looks like a mediocre smoke screen draining the DNI ...


      sho also merge? ... about Syria for four years so Taldychili ...
      1. ALEA IACTA EST 5 September 2015 19: 33 New
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        The people asks Strelkova and spectacles. laughing
        1. severniy 5 September 2015 19: 56 New
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          Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
          The people asks Strelkova and spectacles. laughing

          that’s exactly who I don’t like because this character is .... no one has given him more water .. and out of business ..., md .., followed his business and .... sent to me surrenders to me .. .
          1. ALEA IACTA EST 5 September 2015 20: 04 New
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            Yes, no. He’s just not Napoleon. And I want to PR ...
            1. severniy 5 September 2015 20: 20 New
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              so fight in the fields, sir do you protect me in my basement !? and when my basement (read Slavyansk) was destroyed, you pulled yourself away, and where did you go with my family ???, but he can’t see himself now, not in the Russian government, not in opposition ..., noooo, counterattack ...
  • Igluxnumx 5 September 2015 19: 35 New
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    Again I was late for discussion .... And yet ...
    “Get out of the way” is a betrayal to oneself. Stepped aside - and you're already different, prudent as a shopkeeper and slippery as soap. Someone adapts, someone stubbornly stands his ground .... The question is, can we change something? We are ordinary, "small" people. "In the middle of a world free for the heart of a free man, there are two ways" .... Each has his own way and his own struggle (including the rejection of the struggle). How to say your yes or no so that they can hear you? I’m working hard as an engineer, although the waiter or security guard is calmer and more profitable.
    For me, the article is about that.
    1. vorobey 5 September 2015 21: 44 New
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      Quote: Iglu40
      I’m working hard as an engineer, although the waiter or security guard is calmer and more profitable.

      fellow countryman, I don’t know your name ... plus .. in other words, "Do not do what your conscience condemns, and do not say that you do not agree with the truth. Observe this most important thing and you will complete the whole task of your life." Marcus Aurelius

      I have already cited the parable of the cross ..

      There lived a peasant who worked from morning to night, but at the same time barely making ends meet. This went on for many years, and all these years more and more often the thought came to him about the injustice of the world order. “Why did God bless some with wealth and nobility, and leave others in poverty for life?”
      And then one day he had a vision. He stands in a huge cave filled with a great many crosses of different sizes, types and weights. Here are crosses, and gold, and stone, and wooden, and from straw. Then an angel appeared to him and said: “Do you see these crosses? Choose any for yourself and carry it to the top of the mountain. ”
      The peasant first chose the largest golden cross, but no matter how hard he tried, he could not even lift it. Then I decided to take a smaller cross, made of silver, but I could not take it on myself. He went over all the crosses - some were too heavy, others were unbearable. It was just right for him to have a simple wooden cross, which he conveniently took and carried to the mountain. Carrying the cross up, the peasant returned and asked the Angel:
      - What will be the reward for this work?
      So that you yourself can decide what you deserve, I will tell you what the crosses were, ”said the Angel. “The golden cross that you liked at first is the royal cross.” Most people think: how good it is to be a king! Sit on a soft throne and give out orders. And they don’t know that both gold is the heaviest metal, and the royal share is the heaviest. The silver cross is prepared for those in power. These people carry many worries and sorrows of other people, and few manage to bring this cross to the top. Copper is the cross of those to whom God sent wealth. Many envy them, but living is harder for them than you. You can calmly fall asleep after work, no one will encroach on your modest house.
      And the rich man, day and night, is afraid for his good, as if no one had deceived him. In addition, the rich for his wealth should give an answer to God: how he used it. The Iron Cross is a military cross. Ask those who fought, and they will tell how he gets. The stone cross is among the people of trade; their work is not physically difficult, but as often happens, the merchant loses everything and is forced to start all over again! But the wooden cross that you raised to the mountain - this is your peasant cross. The heart expert, Lord, knows that in any other position you would have destroyed your soul without having brought the cross. So go home and do not grumble to your share: the Lord gives everyone a cross in strength.
  • leon1204id 5 September 2015 19: 56 New
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    No need to think about what others think. When flying high, details are lost and you feel dizzy from success. Try to change the country so as not to be ashamed, but you can’t, you have to step aside. Such is life. hi
  • Michael_59 5 September 2015 19: 57 New
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    Something, you guys who are indignant over the article are too emotional.
    It was written here not very high quality from a technical, editorial point of view - maybe this is the reason - when the author gives "other" views - they were mistakenly attributed to the author? (Although italics are present ...)
    PS Well, and so, for understanding: when I see crap glades - I am ashamed. But, of course, not because I am Russian, but because such nastiness is happening on Russian soil. That such stupid and unscrupulous pigs spoil me and others.
    ZZY And the ability to feel shame is good. This is the quality that distinguishes man from livestock.
  • Siberian1965 5 September 2015 19: 57 New
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    I put a negative article, half did not understand, but I understood the main thing - the author reflects on his perception of reality and for some reason transfers it to me and speaks for me. The answer is - went to w .. pu. I am proud of my country and I understand, unlike the author, that there is enough shit in any country.
    1. severniy 5 September 2015 20: 29 New
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      Quote: Siberian1965
      I put a negative article, half did not understand, but I understood the main thing - the author reflects on his perception of reality and for some reason transfers it to me and speaks for me. The answer is - went to w .. pu. I am proud of my country and I understand, unlike the author, that there is enough shit in any country.

      ornate under the handle of us to the walls of the Kremlin ... stop saying they’ll endure! down rotten power !!! it is so in short ...
  • Cat man null 5 September 2015 20: 02 New
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    I am proud of my country and I understand perfectly unlike the authorthat crap is enough in any country

    The author says the same thing., you will not believe wink

    Quote: Siberian1965
    half did not understand

    ahhh ... then it’s clear ..

    Quote: Siberian1965
    Put article minus .. went to w .. pu

    In! It’s our way, Brazilian laughing
    1. severniy 5 September 2015 20: 28 New
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      Quote: Cat Man Null
      Quote: Siberian1965
      I am proud of my country and I understand perfectly unlike the authorthat crap is enough in any country

      The author says the same thing., you will not believe wink

      Quote: Siberian1965
      half did not understand

      ahhh ... then it’s clear ..

      Quote: Siberian1965
      Put article minus .. went to w .. pu

      In! It’s our way, Brazilian laughing


      Well, you’ll write to the article’s anatations, “not for cattle” .. otherwise we’ll climb into the text by stupidity ...
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        Quote: severniy
        Well, you’ll write to the article’s anatations, “not for cattle” .. otherwise we’ll climb into the text by stupidity ...

        Etta ... "dad, that It was?"

        Quote: severniy
        and then we stupidly we climb into the text with our snout ...

        It is commendable. Only, it seems to me, in your case - it is something like this:

        If I heard, I don’t understand
        If you understand, then not

        IMHO.

        Quote: severniy
        anatomy

        Either "annotation" (in Russian) or "anotatsyya" (in Albanian). I meet your option for the first time request
        1. severniy 5 September 2015 21: 51 New
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          Quote: Cat Man Null
          Quote: severniy
          Well, you’ll write to the article’s anatations, “not for cattle” .. otherwise we’ll climb into the text by stupidity ...

          Etta ... "dad, that It was?"

          Quote: severniy
          and then we stupidly we climb into the text with our snout ...

          It is commendable. Only, it seems to me, in your case - it is something like this:

          If I heard, I don’t understand
          If you understand, then not

          IMHO.

          Quote: severniy
          anatomy

          Either "annotation" (in Russian) or "anotatsyya" (in Albanian). I meet your option for the first time request

          But you learned to write with you, already Prahrez ... Although this new proposal and the editor himself stuck the title .. We for you, for the most part, just you ....
  • Tehb 5 September 2015 20: 12 New
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    And about the garbage at the edge. Bullshit question. Before leaving the fishing, my friend and I always remove someone else’s garbage, that we burn, that we don’t take it to the first container. So neher need to be found fault with the rolls and there will be work, and order, etc.
  • Comments 5 September 2015 20: 47 New
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    I also like to dream when people who do not love Russia and hate the Russian mentality would not torture themselves and us with their whining and would go wherever they like, somewhere across the ocean, where citizens are afraid of their policemen and when they meet with them switch to the other side of the street and where they like to shoot at their citizens. I dream about when, instead of writing undesirable libels, they would go to the edge of the woods and clean up after others if they could not reason them with words. And of course, to dream, imagine that Khrushchev did not give Crimea to anyone and that there was no nightmarish revolution in 17, and Russia was not fragmented, and even now, the Slav brothers would not betray their brothers to the Anglo-Saxons, as if putting a gun to our head, moving NATO is right to our borders. Yes, something I dreamed about.
  • Anchonsha 5 September 2015 21: 01 New
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    An article about everything that’s in the author’s head, everything was mixed up. What happened in Ukraine was logical for this failed country. All the turbidity now from this country accuses us of the fact that only we are to blame for all their troubles. And you know, they are partly right. Because, for free, our rulers annexed Russian lands to them without even consulting with the people, rebuilt and created a powerful economy. But when the Makhnovists-Jews were at the helm of Ukraine, they plundered the country no matter how Russia tried to resist it. It’s already good that even though we returned Crimea to ourselves. Well, the fact that we are sometimes uncivilized is due to the fact that we have a lot of land and we do not appreciate it. Geyropa on a piece of land, but because people were punished and taught to appreciate it.
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      Quote: Anchonsha
      Because, for free, our rulers annexed Russian lands to them without even consulting the people.

      Who specifically will not tell?
      1. Vladimir 1964 5 September 2015 21: 22 New
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        Who specifically will not tell?


        Alexander, I think Anchonsha means Khrushchev.
    2. Vladimir 1964 5 September 2015 21: 20 New
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      Well, the fact that we are sometimes uncivilized is due to the fact that we have a lot of land and we do not appreciate it. Geyropa on a piece of land, but because people were punished and taught to appreciate it.

      There is indeed some truth in your words.
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    Everything is so, but viteevato.
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    Snotty nonsense.
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    The article is abstruse and of no use to it.
  • Vladimir 1964 5 September 2015 21: 28 New
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    But the article is still interesting. Such a serious controversy has not been common recently. The only pity is that we colleagues are very categorical and not always objective. In the discussion, there was just nothing, but only a few people spoke out about the essence of the article. And the essence of the article, in my subjective opinion, is the absence or presence of MORALITY.
    I have the honor of colleagues, you can minus further, only please culturally.
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      Quote: Vladimir 1964
      But the article is still interesting. Such a serious controversy has not been common recently. The only pity is that we colleagues are very categorical and not always objective. In the discussion, there was just nothing, but only a few people spoke out about the essence of the article. And the essence of the article, in my subjective opinion, is the absence or presence of MORALITY.
      I have the honor of colleagues, you can minus further, only please culturally.

      What is - that is, is about serious controversy. I see many hooked. Perhaps I will participate. So, according to the article: "snot" slightly, of course, the author let go, but in my opinion, this only says that he (the author) is a soft, vulnerable person and only, and people tend to express their thoughts according to temperament. Further, about the feeling of shame: as it was correctly noted in the comments above, the feeling of shame indicates a person has an elementary conscience, BUT (!!!) in no case need to "fight", because hypertrophied sense of shame leads to the development of the complex inferiority with all the ensuing (mental strife, binges, suicide, etc.). If there really is something to be ashamed of, then you don’t need to “wind the snot on your fist, shaking off the ashes on the top of your head”, but you should try, in proportion to your possibilities, to rectify the situation, eliminate the cause of shame, or minimize the consequences. "Do you want to change this world, can you accept it as it is? ..." (V. Tsoi) - this is about "to leave - not to leave." In "404," many "departed," so to speak, to observe "Yakon Bude", and everyone flew in without exception, and "we’ve got a hell of a hell out of it" ... As for the "garbage at the edge", then everything is simple: Went AND REMOVED !!! And it doesn’t matter who left this trash. A false sense of awkwardness (or false shame?) Prevents people from doing this, but how can it be: others are watching ... Bullshit. I myself sometimes catch puzzled glances when I pick up a bottle, a can or a bag from the panel and carry it to the urn - say, this is an eccentric ... "But Betty, it's so simple ..." (c) Somehow. PS. Today (or rather, yesterday) I was able to attend the annual festival "Sea Devils" (the first day), Baltic marines and military-historical clubs organize, with a host of events, the highlight of the program is the reconstruction of the assault on Saaremaa in 1944 (including armored vehicles). So, there is only one feeling: pride, only pride and nothing but pride. Shame and sorrow - to the vanquished. PPP. St. Petersburg, today pull up on the second day, it will be great. If you don’t know, then the place is the beach behind the Baltic Pearl, on the bay. Interestingly, Roman-BANSHEE was not accidentally present? And that would be a report. hi