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F-22 fighters in Europe: who is the United States cheating?

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On August 29, the 4 X-generation F-5A Raptor 22 fighter arrived from the United States at the American airbase Spangdahlem, located in West Germany. Planes will stay in Europe until mid-September. According to the US Air Force Minister Deborah Lee James, the Raptors will demonstrate the country's commitment to security and stability in Europe, since Russia's aggressive actions in Ukraine raise concerns. A little later, the 2 aircraft went to Poland, and it also became known about plans to arrange a kind of media event at the Amari airbase in Estonia, where one of the American F-22A is expected to arrive. At the moment, the 2 A-10 attack aircraft of the US Air Force are deployed at the Estonian airbase, and the Predator drone 2 drums are deployed to Latvia.

This whole situation may cause irritation to a resident of Russia, but very few people have fear: the 4 fighter, even if they are the 6 generation (not yet developed), will not be able to make any changes to the balance of power on the continent. Therefore, to consider now the tactical and technical characteristics of the American fighter "star", as well as the possibilities for countering it from Russia in this material is not worth it. What do the Americans want to achieve and deceive whom by arranging a two-week “fashion show” in Europe?

No one should notice a reduction in US military presence in Europe

Such high-profile "tours" should divert attention from the fact that the real US military presence on the European continent is declining. 15 US bases are scheduled to close, leaving 17 operational. Within two years it is planned to withdraw from Germany XHUMX attack helicopter AH-24 Apache.

F-22 fighters in Europe: who is the United States cheating?


At the same Air Force base, Spangdahlem, there have already been reductions: in recent years, only one of the X-NUMX squadrons of F-3 fighters has remained there. All this is due to a decrease in the military budget. Against this background, it is difficult to demand from European allies to resist Russia more actively and to purchase weapons - the population will not understand.

And again business

Once again, adding fuel to the fire of anti-Russian propaganda and hysteria is beneficial to the giants of the military-industrial complex of the United States, who actively promote their products, taking advantage of an imaginary threat. This has been particularly successful in Scandinavia and the Baltic States, where countries began to drastically increase their military budgets after the start of the Ukrainian crisis. This is a good way to prepare public opinion for new military spending, even in countries that are far from wealthy in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. The display of the F-22 fighter can also be an indirect advertisement of the new F-35 fighter, which, unlike the heavier predecessor, is planned to be actively exported.

As for the Baltic states, another goal is to divert attention from the fact that since September 1, NATO has halved the number of fighters (from 16 to 8) constantly participating in airspace patrols over Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. The demo comes to an end - for defense (although it is not clear from whom and why) you now have to pay.
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  1. Stranger03
    Stranger03 3 September 2015 14: 03 New
    +7
    They scared 4 with airplanes, are we already afraid or should we deploy a couple of Ixander divisions in Kaliningrad? laughing
    1. anokem
      anokem 3 September 2015 14: 14 New
      -40
      Every time I see the F-22, I feel angry at Uncle Sam, who refused to sell us this wonderful car ...
      1. Engineer
        Engineer 3 September 2015 14: 16 New
        +44
        buy from the Chinese laughing
      2. kil 31
        kil 31 3 September 2015 14: 17 New
        +16
        Quote: anokem
        Every time I see the F-22, I feel angry at Uncle Sam, who refused to sell us this wonderful car ...

        Do not worry, nerves must be protected. You’re 35 years old. hi
        1. anokem
          anokem 3 September 2015 14: 25 New
          -1
          In fact of the matter. The F-22 is as cool as the F-35 as the F-15 is cooler than the F-16. Ideally, for every 4 light fighter you need to have 1 heavy.
          1. Altona
            Altona 3 September 2015 15: 09 New
            +10
            Quote: anokem
            In fact of the matter. The F-22 is as cool as the F-35 as the F-15 is cooler than the F-16. Ideally, for every 4 light fighter you need to have 1 heavy.

            ----------------------
            Breathe deeper, you are excited ... laughing
            1. meriem1
              meriem1 3 September 2015 16: 06 New
              0
              Yes, a couple of MANPADS need to be thrown at these bases. So we'll see ..... what kind of Sukhov !!!
          2. VP
            VP 3 September 2015 15: 43 New
            +7
            In training battles with the Germans in the Typhoons, the score was almost a draw.
            Well, why would you need such happiness for a pollard?
            To drive the local nomads in the dunes and fight against the MiG-17?
            1. bobby
              bobby 3 September 2015 16: 57 New
              -24
              the score was almost a draw, but American planes had external equipment, as a result of which the EPR increased significantly. The F 22 also fought against the 30 Su 2014 Cope Taufan. The Su 30 had no chance.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=32&v=UjDidH_SW-M
              1. sabakina
                sabakina 3 September 2015 18: 01 New
                +3
                Quote: bobby
                the score was almost a draw, but American planes had external equipment, as a result of which the EPR increased significantly. The F 22 also fought against the 30 Su 2014 Cope Taufan. The Su 30 had no chance.

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=32&v=UjDidH_SW-M

                Well, did I see it in your video? Take-off landing? belay
              2. Dry_T-50
                Dry_T-50 3 September 2015 18: 22 New
                +4
                Quote: bobby
                F 22 also fought against Su 30 Cope Taufan 2014. Su 30 had no chance.

                You would still compare F-15 with MiG-25 fool
                They have completely different principles of application.
                And in the video ... what is there to watch at all? Take-off and landing?
              3. Cherdak
                Cherdak 3 September 2015 20: 46 New
                +4
                Quote: bobby
                F 22 also fought against Su 30


                Hi Bob! Poles have not left traces here for a long time.
                Study at your leisure so that you are not torn to pieces as a representative of an endangered species ...
          3. saturn.mmm
            saturn.mmm 3 September 2015 16: 21 New
            +3
            Quote: anokem
            Ideally, for every 4 light fighter you need to have 1 heavy.

            I strongly doubt that Iran will come to you in the next 5 years, and for the rest of Israel’s enemies the F-22 and the F-35 are now redundant.
          4. tehnoluks
            tehnoluks 3 September 2015 21: 41 New
            +5
            In fact of the matter. The F-22 is as cool as the F-35 as the F-15 is cooler than the F-16. Ideally, for every 4 light fighter you need to have 1 heavy.

            Do you know! It is said that the amount of mind on the planet is a constant value. And the population is growing ..)
      3. pv1005
        pv1005 3 September 2015 14: 19 New
        +6
        Every time I see the F-22, I feel angry at Uncle Sam, who refused to sell us this wonderful car ...

        And why do we need to know about this?
      4. Bongo
        Bongo 3 September 2015 14: 20 New
        +15
        Quote: anokem
        Every time I see the F-22, I feel angry at Uncle Sam, who refused to sell us this wonderful car ...

        You are not alone in your grief, the Japanese also refused. smile
        1. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 3 September 2015 16: 22 New
          +5
          Quote: Bongo
          You are not alone in your grief, the Japanese also refused.

          Refused to everyone
      5. Altona
        Altona 3 September 2015 14: 26 New
        +10
        Quote: anokem
        Every time I see the F-22, I feel angry at Uncle Sam, who refused to sell us this wonderful car ...

        ----------------------------
        This car is not for "nephews." Uncle will sell you F-35 .. laughing
      6. Siberia 9444
        Siberia 9444 3 September 2015 14: 26 New
        +6
        It’s good that we don’t have such problems wink your wonderful cars good
      7. ARES623
        ARES623 3 September 2015 14: 27 New
        +5
        Quote: anokem
        Every time I see the F-22, I feel angry at Uncle Sam, who refused to sell us this wonderful car ...

        And to you, is she on h.r.a. ????
        1. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 3 September 2015 16: 23 New
          +2
          Quote: ARES623
          And to you, is she on h.r.a. ????

          Iran is a large regional state poses some threat to Israel.
      8. Wedmak
        Wedmak 3 September 2015 14: 30 New
        +3
        Well, why do you actually need this car? If I am not mistaken, Israel even has American weapons in its own version. The same F-16 are redone so that you do not recognize right away. And then what do you ask F-22 to do?
        1. anokem
          anokem 3 September 2015 14: 36 New
          +2
          They also upgraded, put all their avionics, would be better than the American version of the F-22.
          1. Altona
            Altona 3 September 2015 14: 45 New
            +10
            Quote: anokem
            They also upgraded, put all their avionics, would be better than the American version of the F-22.

            -------------------
            You have a country of "modernizers" ... You burn well, for a long time I didn’t laugh like that ... laughing
            1. saturn.mmm
              saturn.mmm 3 September 2015 16: 25 New
              +2
              Quote: Altona
              You have a country of "modernizers" ... You burn well, for a long time I didn’t laugh like that ...

              And explain the reason for the laugh?
              1. Altona
                Altona 3 September 2015 20: 02 New
                +2
                Quote: saturn.mmm
                And explain the reason for the laugh?

                ---------------------------
                The reason is that people print their dreams on the forum ... Dreams. that Hale-Avir will receive the F-22 and will be a super-duper of the Air Force, or rather the same "exceptional" as the United States ..
                1. saturn.mmm
                  saturn.mmm 3 September 2015 21: 06 New
                  0
                  Quote: Altona
                  The reason is that people print their dreams on the forum ... Dreams. that Hale-Avir will receive the F-22 and will be a super-duper of the Air Force, or rather the same "exceptional" as the United States ..

                  Iran annoys them, they are worried, and they have good modernizations on the F-16, they did something on the Su-25, sort of like the Mig-29, Su-30, which are exported, they could not do without the French.
                  1. Altona
                    Altona 4 September 2015 00: 41 New
                    +1
                    Quote: saturn.mmm
                    Iran annoys them, they are worried, and they have good modernizations on the F-16, they did something on the Su-25, sort of like the Mig-29, Su-30, which are exported, they could not do without the French.

                    ----------------------
                    I’m not discussing the possibility of modernization, it’s just naive to dream of top weapons when the US strictly ranks its customers, even if it’s Israel. In the war, too, B-17, B-29 and other advanced bomber aircraft were not sold to us, so as not to give up the technological advantage ...
          2. Wedmak
            Wedmak 3 September 2015 14: 49 New
            +6
            But you never answered, why do you need F-22? You have no targets for him in the 2000 radius of km.
            1. anokem
              anokem 3 September 2015 14: 57 New
              -23
              Because it perfectly performs shock functions, and we need to prepare for the destruction of Iran’s nuclear program. Or as a cover for attack aircraft over Iran. Similarly, F-15s covered up F-16s during the destruction of an Iraqi nuclear reactor
              1. Wedmak
                Wedmak 3 September 2015 15: 05 New
                +31
                and we need to prepare for the destruction of Iran’s nuclear program

                Have you tried to negotiate peacefully? They say this is also possible.
                1. anokem
                  anokem 3 September 2015 17: 22 New
                  -3
                  We would gladly agree. But how to reach an agreement with a country that denies Israel’s right to exist in ANY borders? Teach please
                  1. Chukcha
                    Chukcha 3 September 2015 20: 50 New
                    +1
                    So sort of agreed, no?
                  2. Iskander-Khan
                    Iskander-Khan 3 September 2015 20: 51 New
                    +6
                    Dear question, And how does this exist in any borders ... My friend, you are an aggressor since you reserve the right to exist in any borders, and therefore longing for F-22 so what
              2. Altona
                Altona 3 September 2015 15: 12 New
                +10
                Quote: anokem
                Because it perfectly performs shock functions, and we need to prepare for the destruction of Iran’s nuclear program. Or as a cover for attack aircraft over Iran. Similarly, F-15s covered up F-16s during the destruction of an Iraqi nuclear reactor

                -----------------------
                Dear editor, maybe better about the reactor, eh?
                About your favorite moon tractor? After all, you can not the same year
                Then the plates are scared, they say, mean, fly,
                Then you have dogs barking, then you have ruins say.
                laughing
              3. Geser
                Geser 3 September 2015 15: 46 New
                +29
                Please answer - why can Israel have its own nuclear program and nuclear weapons and Iran can not? Just don’t talk about Muslim radicals and fanatics who can use nuclear weapons against Israel. As if in Israel itself there are no Jewish radicals and fanatics from Judaism.
                1. pv1005
                  pv1005 3 September 2015 16: 46 New
                  +8
                  Please answer - why can Israel have its own nuclear program and nuclear weapons and Iran can not?

                  And in response to silence. He has not yet returned from the office. laughing
                2. anokem
                  anokem 3 September 2015 17: 27 New
                  +1
                  No Jewish radical denies the right of Iran or any other country to exist. Iran, through the mouth of its spiritual leader and its president, denies Israel the right to exist in ANY borders. And the possession of such a country by nuclear weapons is a death sentence for us. Therefore, Israel will do everything in its power to prevent this from happening. Even if America is unhappy with Russia and Europe
                  1. Chukcha
                    Chukcha 3 September 2015 20: 53 New
                    +3
                    Then the question is, what about Pakistan? They have nuclear weapons, and they also do not like Israel.
              4. vladimir_krm
                vladimir_krm 3 September 2015 16: 38 New
                +2
                Drums? This is if you really replace the completely on-board equipment. Or just stationary targets with entering coordinates even before departure. And what about Iran, the ancient F-14s? And the point is so expensive to expose against them?
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              6. MESS
                MESS 3 September 2015 17: 04 New
                +3
                it’s unlikely that you will have to fight the poison program with these planes. since they will have 300 Russian-made
                1. anokem
                  anokem 3 September 2015 17: 28 New
                  -15
                  F-22 and F-35 will be able to fly freely over Iran and in the presence of C-300.
                  1. sabakina
                    sabakina 3 September 2015 18: 07 New
                    +10
                    Quote: anokem
                    F-22 and F-35 will be able to fly freely over Iran and in the presence of C-300.

                    And what? Already flew? and how is it?
                  2. Dry_T-50
                    Dry_T-50 3 September 2015 18: 18 New
                    +3
                    Quote: anokem
                    F-22 and F-35 will be able to fly freely over Iran and in the presence of C-300.

                    Monsieur, does your name Pasha Mercedes mean anything?
                  3. Iskander-Khan
                    Iskander-Khan 3 September 2015 20: 57 New
                    +2
                    Are you sure about ... free to fly ... free to fall ... like a leaf from a tree, for example how do you like it
              7. Minsk
                Minsk 3 September 2015 17: 04 New
                +8
                Count: You will destroy a couple of Iranian reactors, and in response, Iran will deliver a massive missile strike over the entire territory of the promised land, what will you do then? Hang out with live? hi
                1. anokem
                  anokem 3 September 2015 17: 29 New
                  -4
                  It will be extremely unpleasant (and to say the least). But getting on the head of Iranian atomic charges will be unpleasant thousands of times
                  1. sabakina
                    sabakina 3 September 2015 18: 10 New
                    +9
                    Quote: anokem
                    It will be extremely unpleasant (and to say the least). But getting on the head of Iranian atomic charges will be unpleasant thousands of times

                    Why are you all so afraid? For half a century they have been living in their state, and they got the feces under the 1000-year history ...
                    1. anokem
                      anokem 3 September 2015 18: 14 New
                      +2
                      Our story is special, and during the Second World War it taught us forever that if someone says that he is going to destroy us, he needs to immediately and unconditionally believe
                      1. Chukcha
                        Chukcha 3 September 2015 20: 57 New
                        +3
                        Mdaaaa, historical memory is a strong thing. And the Iranians (Persians), too.
                    2. razzhivin
                      razzhivin 3 September 2015 22: 19 New
                      +7
                      Idin, my acquaintance, spoke of another acquaintance who traveled to Moscow with two jeeps of security: “how much does it take for people to do so much security would be needed” ...
                      I didn’t want to offend anyone - I just remembered ...
                  2. TOZ-34
                    TOZ-34 4 September 2015 10: 28 New
                    0
                    No need to run into. I may not like the neighbor, as I did him. But if I refrain from "trickery," the neighbor also does not shit me.
                    And so - the Soviet Union and America at one time agreed when they had sane people at the helm.
                2. Iskander-Khan
                  Iskander-Khan 3 September 2015 20: 59 New
                  0
                  Garden and Gamora will be ...
              8. saturn.mmm
                saturn.mmm 3 September 2015 21: 15 New
                -2
                Quote: anokem
                Because it performs well and shock functions

                And for what 17 minuses set? For the Iranian nuclear program? Sorry for the Iranian nuclear program? So the Israelis are worried that the Iranians would not get weapons-grade plutonium, it would also not hurt us to exercise caution in this matter, what will the Ayatollahs do tomorrow? Suddenly, they’ll take offense in the Caspian or make friends with the USA and we will become enemies.
                1. anokem
                  anokem 3 September 2015 21: 59 New
                  0
                  I’ll explain to you why there are 17 minuses: people believe that any enemy of America is automatically a friend of Russia. Well, the Israeli flag adds minuses.
                  1. saturn.mmm
                    saturn.mmm 3 September 2015 22: 57 New
                    -3
                    Quote: anokem
                    I’ll explain to you why there are 17 minuses: people believe that any enemy of America is automatically a friend of Russia. Well, the Israeli flag adds minuses.

                    Soon, there will be no one to put the cons, all opponents will be driven into the skull and there will be happiness.
                    Something reminded Krylov's fable.
                    Cuckoo and Rooster
                    "How, dear Cockerel, you sing, you are loud, it is important!" -
                    “And you, Cuckoo, my light,
                    How to pull smoothly and lingeringly:
                    In the whole forest we don’t have such a singer! ”-

                    ...
          3. saturn.mmm
            saturn.mmm 3 September 2015 16: 25 New
            -1
            Quote: anokem
            They also upgraded, put all their avionics, would be better than the American version of the F-22.

            After the modernization of the avionics avionics F-22 is pretty good, they say.
      9. VP
        VP 3 September 2015 15: 36 New
        +4
        Why is she wonderful?
        No one except the amers themselves exploited it, so there is no one to check the consistency of advertising and life.
        Release stopped 5 years ago, probably not without reason?
      10. zemnoyd
        zemnoyd 3 September 2015 16: 05 New
        +1
        is this for you to Israel?
      11. IAlex
        IAlex 3 September 2015 16: 12 New
        0
        If in time you don’t get cancer when Uncle Sam wants to, you can personally enjoy, to the pig's squeal, communication with this wonderful machine that your uncle refused to sell to you ...
      12. bastard
        bastard 3 September 2015 16: 49 New
        +2
        Quote: anokem
        Every time I see the F-22, I feel angry at Uncle Sam, who refused to sell us this wonderful car ...

        Wait, they’ll throw you more than once. Everything on the concepts.
        1. anokem
          anokem 3 September 2015 17: 30 New
          -2
          Maybe. But this is the best of the worst
      13. MESS
        MESS 3 September 2015 16: 59 New
        +2
        and that Russian planes are not suitable?
        1. anokem
          anokem 3 September 2015 17: 31 New
          -13
          Not suitable, like any others. There is no F-22 aircraft to date
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 3 September 2015 18: 14 New
            +10
            Quote: anokem
            Not suitable, like any others. There is no F-22 aircraft to date

            For your size, you and La-7 with IL-2 for the eyes will be.
            1. Iskander-Khan
              Iskander-Khan 3 September 2015 21: 03 New
              0
              Stalin I.V- let them fly ..
          2. misljachii
            misljachii 3 September 2015 19: 18 New
            0
            ))) mixed
          3. Tambov Wolf
            Tambov Wolf 3 September 2015 19: 33 New
            +3
            This is what level, if the old P-18 takes it with a bang, I’m not talking about modern meter radars. It lights up on the screen like Ilyich’s bulb. And taking on escort already means 90% death, even from older equipment. In the USA, the generals already started understand all this venture with "invisibility". You read about it. Yes, and weapons on 22 of the series are not ah. Well, about 35 the Americans themselves say that the cut was too cool.
          4. Iskander-Khan
            Iskander-Khan 3 September 2015 21: 02 New
            +1
            Well man ... You’ve definitely-laughed at. I read you and wonder, are you Hochmach or just a resident of the promised land ...
          5. Tusv
            Tusv 3 September 2015 23: 02 New
            -1
            Quote: anokem
            Not suitable, like any others. There is no F-22 aircraft to date

            I am surprised at you. Do you really believe the cheater Raptor is the coolest?
            Of course, the dinosaur is impressive. But!!!
            He loses the su-35 2-5, which actually led to the closure of the program. Stealth is certainly good, but the good of it is with our air defense system
            Also read TTH T-50, for this day it is the top in the food chain. There are only five of them, but they’ll snack on your raptor and add piglets.
            There is a third factor - our armament is stronger than the American. This is where the sons of Israel must salivate. Even an ancient plane can overwhelm America’s most advanced aircraft without a retaliatory strike. Of course, by designation
      14. giperion121
        giperion121 3 September 2015 17: 45 New
        +1
        Buy dryers and MiGs.
        1. anokem
          anokem 3 September 2015 18: 01 New
          -7
          We will definitely buy it if they are better than American cars in terms of level
      15. antoXa
        antoXa 3 September 2015 18: 20 New
        +3
        You would rather regret that they "banned" you from developing your planes, or rather you paid for the fact that you will not do this
      16. World Cup 2014
        World Cup 2014 3 September 2015 19: 19 New
        -1
        Quote: anokem
        F 22 is a tin so rejoice that you did not sell.

        F 22 is a tin so rejoice that you did not sell.
      17. Tambov Wolf
        Tambov Wolf 3 September 2015 19: 22 New
        0
        As I understand it, you joked, but the people did not understand you? You at least put quotes.
      18. Cherdak
        Cherdak 3 September 2015 20: 40 New
        +2
        Quote: anokem
        Every time I see the F-22 I feel angry


        Look, dear, at least until consolidation ... all wet dreams for your money!
        1. anokem
          anokem 3 September 2015 21: 03 New
          +1
          Oh, don't tear your heart ...
          1. Cherdak
            Cherdak 4 September 2015 13: 30 New
            0
            Quote: anokem
            Oh, don't tear your heart ...


            Akosem Anokem, well, why do you need to disgrace yourself so glamorously in front of nomads?
            Use sho simpler ... and the drones are small townships ... just anti-Bedouin dildos, God forgive me.
    2. Papakiko
      Papakiko 3 September 2015 14: 49 New
      +2
      Quote: Stranger03
      should we be afraid or still deploy a couple of Iksander divisions in Kaliningrad?

      We already need to form new 2-3 tank armies and several air force armies.
      A pair of Iskander divisions no longer make the weather.
      It is necessary to revive by leaps and bounds the former number of divisions of the Strategic Missile Forces and Molodets in modern hypostasis.
      And all this will be demonstrate a country's commitment to security and stability in Europe and all over the world!
      Against this background, it is difficult to require European allies to actively confront Russia and buy weapons - the population will not understand.
      Oh, what pathos.
      They spit out the population and will oppose it only after hundreds of thousands in coffins begin to receive their relatives.
      Such high-profile “tours” should distract attention from the fact that the real US military presence on the European continent is declining. 15 US bases are planned to close, leaving 17 active.
      Well, what a trend about saving budgets and reducing bases !?
      How many bases are openly new in eastern Europe and how many vehicles are being driven there at the present moment ?!
      6 staffs are deployed alone!
      And the deployed headquarters and mobilized equipment is 0.5 steps from open hostilities. This is without taking into account all kinds of “private armies”, which are fighting in full in Africa, Asia and Ukraine.
    3. little girl15
      little girl15 3 September 2015 16: 47 New
      +1
      Oh, at least 1 F-22 would be sold to the Balts (I can imagine how they squirted dust off it with squirrel brushes).
  2. zeleznijdorojnik
    zeleznijdorojnik 3 September 2015 14: 05 New
    +7
    Just like Uncle Pokus’s circus - with two trained monkeys come ... 2 planes ... It will be interesting to read the Estonian press. After all, they will write about the whole air corps.
    1. gans_sp
      gans_sp 3 September 2015 16: 17 New
      +1
      And what, in terms of scale, is about how a delegation on the Death Star visits Russia on a friendly visit.
      1. zeleznijdorojnik
        zeleznijdorojnik 3 September 2015 16: 55 New
        0
        Not in the subject. What a star?
        1. andj61
          andj61 3 September 2015 20: 17 New
          0
          Quote: gans_sp
          And what, in terms of scale, is about how a delegation on the Death Star visits Russia on a friendly visit.

          Quote: zeleznijdorojnik
          Not in the subject. What a star?

          From the movie "Star Wars". laughing
        2. Iskander-Khan
          Iskander-Khan 3 September 2015 21: 08 New
          +1
          Rising ... Together with anokem
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  3. asadov
    asadov 3 September 2015 14: 07 New
    +3
    what to take with the merchants? Found the reason, showed the goods from all sides. Now it’s the turn of the customers ...
  4. Wedmak
    Wedmak 3 September 2015 14: 13 New
    +8
    Maybe ours will raise AWACS in the air and probe the F-22 signatures. It’s a sin to miss this opportunity.
  5. Stranger03
    Stranger03 3 September 2015 14: 16 New
    +2
    And how to insert a video link on YouTube? Tell me, :). Something does not work.
    1. vladimir_krm
      vladimir_krm 3 September 2015 16: 35 New
      0
      Click on the button with the film strip and insert the video right here.
  6. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 3 September 2015 14: 18 New
    +9
    "At the same Air Force base, Spangdahlem has already experienced reductions:
    in recent years from 3 F-16 fighter squadrons there
    only one left. All this is due to a decrease in the military budget "///

    All NATO countries are well aware that the United States has been around for several years.
    reduce military spending. Obama does not keep it a secret. Long before liquidation
    each military base in Europe is notified by the leadership of that NATO country.
    Simply, Obama asked: "replace us." But the Europeans did nothing.
    And now the States have, at the tearful requests of Europe, plugging holes
    single planes.
    1. nersmail
      nersmail 3 September 2015 14: 28 New
      +2
      So it is for public opinion work, the leaders of the countries and those interested in the course, of course
  7. Taygerus
    Taygerus 3 September 2015 14: 21 New
    +5
    everything went to dig a hopper laughing
  8. Stalevarvar
    Stalevarvar 3 September 2015 14: 32 New
    +4
    A short-range air-to-air missile of the RVV-MD short-range and highly maneuverable air battle

    She is waiting for him
    1. figwam
      figwam 3 September 2015 14: 51 New
      +3
      She is waiting for him

      Only on photo R-73
      1. gjv
        gjv 3 September 2015 16: 03 New
        +4
        Quote: figvam
        Only on photo R-73

        The missile was developed at the Lightning NPO (since 1983 the R-73 was upgraded and modernized by the Vympel State Moscow Design Bureau), it was put into service in 1983. It is equipped with all modifications of the MiG-29 and Su-27 front-line fighters, Su-34 front-line bombers, and attack aircraft Su-25TM (Su-39). The export version of the rocket is called R-73E.
        Currently, there are two variants of this missile: R-73 RMD-1 and R-73M RMD-2, differing mainly in targeting angles: 45 ° for the RMD-1 variant and 60 ° for the RMD-2 variant. In addition to increasing target designation angles, the RMD-2 homing head has increased noise immunity against infrared counteraction and is built on a digital element base, which makes it easy to reprogram tracking and interception algorithms. Improved attack capabilities of low-flying targets. R-73 RMD-2 can be used to organize missile defense and allows you to implement a reverse start mode for the defense of the rear hemisphere of the carrier.
        NATO designation AA-11 "Archer".
  9. sa-zz
    sa-zz 3 September 2015 14: 39 New
    +3
    The United States wants to unleash a third world war and take its bases out of a possible blow. Navaritsya on the sale of weapons and both, and in the end appear as an ally of the victorious side (which they did in World War II)
  10. Leeder
    Leeder 3 September 2015 14: 42 New
    +3
    Quote: asadov
    Found the reason, showed the goods from all sides. Now it’s the turn of the customers ..

    So do not sell F-22 to anyone :)
    1. VP
      VP 3 September 2015 16: 02 New
      +2
      And do not produce for a long time
  11. mast
    mast 3 September 2015 15: 02 New
    +8
    And why is it so good that Russian planes do not have 4 +++
    As for me, there is nothing more than a sky-high price
  12. Boa kaa
    Boa kaa 3 September 2015 15: 04 New
    +2
    Half info.
    On a tour of Europe from the states went another 60 * horseless * flyers. And then 4 Lizards began to creep into the Baltic countries. Does this remind you of anything (except the desire to jerk)?
    It seems to me that is getting acquainted with the new theater. They didn’t fly on an excursion to distant lands? yes
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 3 September 2015 15: 07 New
      +5
      They have already shot a new theater from all angles and heights. This is done by completely different aircraft. And these just drove to test in local conditions, but to reassure the Europeans, they say we are protecting you.
  13. sv68
    sv68 3 September 2015 15: 47 New
    0
    the Yankees are aforel, trying to scare us with four targets !!!
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 3 September 2015 18: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: BoA KAA
      Half info.
      On a tour of Europe from the states went another 60 * horseless * flyers. And then 4 Lizards began to creep into the Baltic countries. Does this remind you of anything (except the desire to jerk)?
      It seems to me that is getting acquainted with the new theater. They didn’t fly on an excursion to distant lands? yes

      And what? This TVD molts 4 times a year. I didn’t breathe optics with alcohol, and Khan ...
  14. TOR2
    TOR2 3 September 2015 16: 10 New
    +2
    On August 29, 4 F-5A Raptor fighter jets arrived from the United States at the American Spangdahlem air base in West Germany.

    Eh, that would be to shoot one neatly. And so that would have fallen on our territory somewhere in a swamp. fellow
  15. NKV
    NKV 3 September 2015 16: 11 New
    +5
    We have already discussed that this is more a political action than a military one. And for the Poles and the Balts, I would like to remind you that in the event of the beginning of large-scale hostilities, the very first airfields to which these birds landed will be the first to be disabled, that will bring you happiness ..
  16. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 3 September 2015 16: 31 New
    +1
    As for the Baltic states, there is another goal - to divert attention from the fact that since September 1, NATO has halved the number of fighters (from 16 to 8)


    Yes, 16 didn’t fit there; 8 had to fly constantly!
  17. akudr48
    akudr48 3 September 2015 16: 33 New
    +1
    Of course, the author is right that

    "4 fighters, even if they are the 6th generation (not yet developed), will not be able to make any changes to the balance of power on the continent."

    They won’t be able to balance the forces, but they can even make a demonstration of the enemy’s intentions. Moreover, the United States already has about 200 flying F-22s.

    To remain realistic, remember how many T-50s we have.

    Such gestures and hints are very well understood at the expert level.

    Like "a fairy tale is a lie, but there is a hint in it ..."

    And according to how Westerners behave in Ukraine, they have already set aside all hints.
  18. ASG7
    ASG7 3 September 2015 16: 35 New
    +1
    This is good for our radar. Now a number of necessary markers for recognizing the F-22 in various PSU modes will be obtained.
  19. Leeder
    Leeder 3 September 2015 17: 13 New
    0
    Quote: VP
    And do not produce for a long time

    Well, the old stuff must be done somewhere ... wink The Abrams are not produced either, but they are sold ...
    I wonder if we should buy 1 little thing to "parse"? Or break into a lard? smile
  20. RomanS
    RomanS 3 September 2015 17: 21 New
    -1
    Perhaps I have been inattentive to the news last year, but I will not mention reports of the withdrawal of US troops, equipment and the closure of military bases in Europe. There were a lot of messages about the entry of tanks and troops. The author delicately "hangs noodles."
  21. jovanni
    jovanni 3 September 2015 17: 28 New
    0
    Quote: anokem
    Every time I see the F-22, I feel angry at Uncle Sam, who refused to sell us this wonderful car ...


    Choo-choo! What problems? Hang down the drawings, and bungle under your name. Well, such as "Mirage" - "Kfir" ...
  22. sounddoc
    sounddoc 3 September 2015 17: 30 New
    +1
    Quote: anokem
    Every time I see the F-22, I feel angry at Uncle Sam, who refused to sell us this wonderful car ...

    Well, as they said in Odessa brothels: "Madame, do not scamper about the client!"
    And what for you F-22? You have such a tsimes as the Iron Dome, so the sky is still locked)))
    1. anokem
      anokem 3 September 2015 18: 42 New
      -1
      You just forgot to mention that the helmet on the 35th development of the Israeli company Elbit. By the way, he is very special, read on the Internet at your leisure
  23. World Cup 2014
    World Cup 2014 3 September 2015 19: 27 New
    0
    Quote: anokem
    F-22 and F-35 will be able to fly freely over Iran and in the presence of C-300.

    They can only not for long, a couple of seconds
    New Amer’s planes are expensive and they don’t have combat qualities, stupidly scrap metal that can fly
  24. Zloblin
    Zloblin 3 September 2015 23: 14 New
    0
    It seems to me ... that our friend from Israel is an "Internet elf." Reply n @ # owls to our “troll ministry”: D