"Samum" returned home from the Mediterranean

Missile hovercraft "Samum" returned to Sevastopol after successfully completing tasks in the Mediterranean, reports MIC with reference to the representative of the Black Sea Fleet Vyacheslav Trukhachev.

"During the three months of marching in a distant maritime zone, the warship took part in the Russian-Chinese naval exercise" Marine Interaction - 2015 ", in the first Russian-Egyptian naval exercise" Friendship Bridge - 2015 ", performed combat exercises during the exercise the permanent connection of the ships of the Russian Navy in the Mediterranean Sea, which included the operation of the RVCP, ”said Trukhachev.

Also, the Shakhtar marine rescue tug returned to Sevastopol, which for almost three months provided the activities of the Black Sea warship detachment fleet in the Mediterranean and the Atlantic, ”added a spokesman for the fleet.

Comments

[Air Force captain]

Let's have more presence ... many and different in all oceans of the world ...

[Haettenschweiler]

- It seems joyful - it worked as it should, returned, but ... compared to the naval power of the USSR it still looks pale.

[Oleg14774]

Quote: Haettenschweiler

Compared to the naval power of the USSR, it still looks pale.

So the USSR also began poorly after three revolutions, the Civil War and the 1st World War!

[veksha50]

Quote: Oleg147741

So the USSR also began poorly after three revolutions, the Civil War and the 1st World War!

I put a plus with the condition: put everything in place according to historical events ...

[Soviet Union]

But now is another time: neither revolution, nor civil, nor world ...

[CAMS]

and the 90s, and Chechnya? Well, even if we stood on our feet, we were generally written off

[Sars]

But what about the "great democratic, universal" revolution of 1984-1999

[veksha50]

Quote: Haettenschweiler

- It seems joyful - it worked as it should, returned, but ... compared to the naval power of the USSR it still looks

Looks normal ... And went camping normally ...

And if you don't like something - take a closer look at the Ukrainian Zaporizhzhia chained to the pier ...

[Alexey RA]

Quote: veksha50

And if you don't like something - take a closer look at the Ukrainian Zaporizhzhia chained to the pier ...

Firstly, no longer chained. 13 SRZ Black Sea Fleet knows its business - after its repair, the submarine was able not only to sink, but also to emerge.
Secondly, it’s not Ukrainian anymore. B-435 returned to the Black Sea Fleet.

[Manul]

Quote: Haettenschweiler

- It seems joyful - it worked as it should, returned, but ... compared to the naval power of the USSR it still looks pale

As they were made by two pieces, so decay. The technique is serious and powerful. but there are no articles on the continued production of hovercraft rockets and discussions are not going on. My questions on the forums - why - do not find the answer.

[igor.borov775]

These ships have unique abilities. All are tormented by stealth and they are almost invisible. Water dust covers them well. This one is another. Mines do not care.

[Vladimir 1964]

I agree with you, Denis, the boat for demonstration is of course rather weak, and still very expensive to operate.

[Manul]

Quote: Vladimir 1964

and also very expensive to operate.

This is not the first time I've heard this. But I cringe how easily such authoritative opinions slip between couch experts. And can I give the figures that determine the operating costs, and other figures that determine the effectiveness. And let's look at other ships in this proportion, for example, US aircraft carriers.

[Vladimir 1964]

Ilya, well, where are the aircraft carriers, why go to extremes. The hovercraft in fuel consumption at the same displacement exceeds the classically displacing ships by a little less than two times. Hence the autonomy of navigation to various sources (of our site) for no more than 14 days, someone gives even less. Ships of this type are intended for use in the near sea zone.

[Manul]

Quote: Vladimir 1964

Ilya, well, where are the aircraft carriers, why go to extremes. The hovercraft in fuel consumption at the same displacement exceeds the classically displacing ships by a little less than two times. Hence the autonomy of navigation to various sources (of our site) for no more than 14 days, someone gives even less. Ships of this type are intended for use in the near sea zone.

And if the task that they can perform, no one else will? I do not argue that they are gluttonous. But I prove that they are effective. So they need to refuel with a tanker and thus increase the autonomy of the campaign. Is fuel more expensive than a combat mission, or even the outcome of a naval battle?

[gispanec]

Quote: Air Force Captain

Let's have more presence ... many and different in all oceans of the world ..

come on ..... only who will be present ?? ... Nuno build ships of the 1st and 2nd rank .... but only with the first we have big problems ... and there are no 2 engines yet ... well, wait 3 a year old .... a petit is being repaired ... a kuzya just got out of it ... Moscow is about to get up (next year) ... I can’t say exactly who and when to repair about a BOD ....

[TVM - 75]

Poor RUSSIAN LANGUAGE! Why is it so?

[Manul]

Quote: TVM - 75

Poor RUSSIAN LANGUAGE! Why is it so?

And for caps, Turgenev would have expressed it to you.

[marlin1203]

It is necessary to build. Only wisely. The toy fleet is very expensive. It is possible to undermine the economy so that it will not rise any more. But the boats of this project are the most. It seems that there are also 2 ranks, but in terms of the price-damage ratio, they are very "spiteful". Of course, they are too small for the far ocean zone, but in the Black (Baltic, Caspian) Sea, they will definitely not give anyone a descent

[Civil]

But is this ship intended to work in the far sea zone as a cruiser?

[Manul]

Quote: Civil

But is this ship intended to work in the far sea zone as a cruiser?

I put you a plus for an interesting question, but on the other hand - do you assume that they will not be able to carry out any tasks?

Navigation range: 2500 miles with 12 nodes, 800 miles with 45 nodes.

Is it possible to refuel them afloat? I don’t know - I haven’t found it yet. But if there is, then if there is a combat mission, there will be a refueling tanker.
Let’s ask questions more constructively. If we can answer it ourselves, we try to dig ourselves on the Internet ourselves, and not force people like you to do the same inexperienced in the matter. Tomorrow I'm going to rummage through the wilds of the Internet - what about the possibility of refueling and replenishing supplies. But you do not lag behind. I want to know from you - and the cruiser in the far sea zone where he takes food for personnel, and ammunition in case of warfare?

[Civil]

Quote: Manul

Quote: Civil

But is this ship intended to work in the far sea zone as a cruiser?

I put you a plus for an interesting question, but on the other hand - do you assume that they will not be able to carry out any tasks?

Navigation range: 2500 miles with 12 nodes, 800 miles with 45 nodes.

Is it possible to refuel them afloat? I don’t know - I haven’t found it yet. But if there is, then if there is a combat mission, there will be a refueling tanker.
Let’s ask questions more constructively. If we can answer it ourselves, we try to dig ourselves on the Internet ourselves, and not force people like you to do the same inexperienced in the matter. Tomorrow I'm going to rummage through the wilds of the Internet - what about the possibility of refueling and replenishing supplies. But you do not lag behind. I want to know from you - and the cruiser in the far sea zone where he takes food for personnel, and ammunition in case of warfare?

Of course, there are supply vessels, questions about shipping capabilities, air defense, missile defense, actions in the KMG, there are simply real doubts ...

[Manul]

Quote: Civil

Of course, there are supply vessels, questions about shipping capabilities, air defense, missile defense, actions in the KMG, there are simply real doubts ...

Quote: Lance

Lance (4) Yesterday, 23:52 p.m. ↑
But is this ship intended to work in the far sea zone as a cruiser?
No.
Far Sea Zone - Ocean
There he has a heavy skeg scheme.
Consider catamaran. Seaworthiness is not a fountain))
And he is not a cruiser.

So I talked about the need for these ships in the fleet, and not that they would deal with the enemy beyond the north pole. For a pair of such ships for each fleet as border guards (peculiar watch dogs), they also spend our squadron and meet her. They used to meet the enemy squadron at the approaches before coastal missile and artillery complexes. Isn't that their task?

[Throw]

But is this ship intended to work in the far sea zone as a cruiser?

No.
Far Sea Zone - Ocean
There he has a heavy skeg scheme.
Consider catamaran. Seaworthiness is not a fountain))
And he is not a cruiser.

[JackTheRipper]

Honestly, it’s a little crazy or out of despair to send a ship of such a small displacement from the Black Sea, bypassing the Sea of ​​Marmara and the Aegean to the shores of Egypt.
Although the ship is excellent, but IMHO, in their coastal zones and + - miles 700 no more.
A purely personal opinion.

[kil 31]

the sea rescue tug Shakhtar returned, which for almost three months supported the activities of a detachment of warships of the Black Sea Fleet in the Mediterranean Sea and the Atlantic Ocean ”, Here the kid was plowing there, they drove the devil to where. Well done, he stood it.

[War and Peace]

Quote: Kil 31

the sea rescue tug Shakhtar returned, which for almost three months supported the activities of a detachment of warships of the Black Sea Fleet in the Mediterranean Sea and the Atlantic Ocean ”, Here the kid was plowing there, they drove the devil to where. Well done, he stood it.

What did he do there in the Mediterranean? maybe he has torpedoes?

[beer-youk]

He is saving! Save those who should be across our course!

[svp67]

Quote: War and Peace

What did he do there in the Mediterranean?

Hard, routine, everyday work. Do not forget that we have a Base Point in Syria, and our ships are far from the first freshness, so that a tugboat is a fighting unit there.

[War and Peace]

Quote: svp67

Quote: War and Peace

What did he do there in the Mediterranean?

Hard, routine, everyday work. Do not forget that we have a Base Point in Syria, and our ships are far from the first freshness, so that a tugboat is a fighting unit there.

so what didn’t stay at the point in this? it is clear that the boat is official and coastal, then to Tartus, then back, so no resource is enough ...

[Boa kaa]

Quote: War and Peace

it is clear that the boat is official and coastal

The miner, actually a MARINE tugboat, is not basic, not raid. Therefore, he carried his BS at the MSS fleet parking points.
And kabatage is "the transportation of goods and passengers, carried out within the same sea, in coastal waters, most often between the ports of one state. Dictionary of business terms. Akademik.ru. 2001"

[War and Peace]

Quote: BoA KAA

Quote: War and Peace

it is clear that the boat is official and coastal

The miner, actually a MARINE tugboat, is not basic, not raid. Therefore, he carried his BS at the MSS fleet parking points.
And kabatage is "the transportation of goods and passengers, carried out within the same sea, in coastal waters, most often between the ports of one state. Dictionary of business terms. Akademik.ru. 2001"

Well, and the fact that he does not rank between the seas dangles like this?

[svp67]

Quote: War and Peace

so what didn’t stay at the point in this? it is clear that the boat is official and coastal, then to Tartus, then back, so no resource is enough ...

It's not a question of salary. It is possible that he himself returned to the service, the mechanisms also need prophylaxis, and maybe he accompanied the "pre-infarction" one.

[veksha50]

Quote: War and Peace

What did he do there in the Mediterranean? maybe he has torpedoes?

I don’t understand - why is such a dismissive attitude towards providing courts ???

Where does this snobbery and gentility come from ???

Yes, even Peter the Great would have cost a lot if he hadn’t plowed a myriad of such towing fireflies ???

[Vladimirets]

Quote: keel 31

Here the kid was plowing there, they drove the devil to where. Well done, he stood it.

+ To you, I also thought about this, the crew usually has neither fame, nor fanfare, nor respect, marine laborers, but as they are needed.

[chunga-changa]

It is more correct to call it "hovercraft skeg", because "hovercraft" is a little different, for example "Bison". The difference is like between an excavator and a bulldozer, they seem to be similar and both dig, but they do it in different ways and for different purposes.

[veksha50]

Quote: chunga-changa

but they do it differently

Well, yes, yes ... The bison will deliver armored personnel carriers and marines and will fire a gun ...

But Samum as E ... t - and the NATO destroyer - no ...

[chunga-changa]

Rather like that. “The bison will pass over shoals and mines, come ashore, unload equipment and people. In case of fatal damage to the“ skirt ”or engines, the loaded one will most likely drown. And the“ Samum ”will walk along the fairways and anchor, or moor to the pier , but on the other hand "eat" less fuel and be more seaworthy without losing speed. In case of serious damage to the "skirt", it will most likely slowly reach the base.

[igor.borov775]

That's the point. Very interesting boat. The bison guzzle a break and the fuel is not easy, but here everything is different.

[kolkulon]

And how many of these are we in the fleet?

[Seriomilander]

Two, Bora and Samum, as the name of the winds ...

[gjv]

Quote: Seriomilander

Two, Bora and Samum, as the name of the winds ...

Bora's appearance

+ bonus - a fight on the road.

[gjv]

Another movie about these ships. In general, the plot is the same, but IMHO editing is slightly different and other shots come across ...

[sabakina]

In the 90s I read old things in the RG, how officers, at their own expense, kept the "Bor" afloat, if only they did not saw it on pins and needles ... Honor and praise to all who served on this ship!

[Manul]

Local winds are winds that differ in some features from the main character of the general circulation of the atmosphere, but, like constant winds, regularly repeating and having a noticeable effect on the weather regime in a limited part of the landscape or water area.

Local winds include a breeze changing its direction twice a day, mountain-valley winds, boron, hair-drier, dry wind, sumum and many others [1].

The occurrence of local winds is mainly associated with the difference in temperature conditions over large bodies of water (breezes) or mountains, their spread relative to the general circulation flows and the location of mountain valleys (phen, boron, mountain-valley), as well as with a change in the general atmospheric circulation by local conditions (summ , sirocco, hamsin). Some of them are essentially air currents of the general circulation of the atmosphere, but in a certain area they have special properties, and therefore they are attributed to local winds and give them their own names.

For example, only on Lake Baikal, due to the difference in warming water and land and the complex location of steep-slope ridges with deep valleys, at least 5 local winds are distinguished: barguzin - a warm northeast wind, a mountain wind - north-west wind, causing powerful storms, sarma - a sudden west wind, reaching a hurricane force of up to 80 m / s, the valley ones - the southwestern kultuk and the southeast shellon.

Contents [remove]
1 Afghan
2 Barguzin
3 Biz
4 Bora
5 Breeze
6 garmsil
7 Mountain-valley winds
8 Marshmallows
9 Mistral
10 Meltemi
11 Pampero
12 Epaulet
13 Sumum
14 Sarma
15 Cirocco
16 Dry wind
17 Tornado
18 Foehn
19 Hamsin
20 Harmatan
21 Chinook

As we can see, 19 more ships have not been completed. Where are they ??? I ask everyone!

[lecturer]

... As we can see, 19 more ships have not been completed. Where are they ??? I ask everyone!

- son, it used to be taken with a bang, and now QUALITY!

[Manul]

Quote: morpod

- son, it used to be taken with a bang, and now QUALITY!

Excuse me, dad, but minus I set you solely for familiarity. And for youthful maximalism I pat on the shoulder, and I’ll say - they don’t take quality now (and not everywhere else before). And they don’t take quantity. Starters-engineers and enthusiasts pull on their teeth. They won’t be awarded either a prize or an order. And I don’t have to tell anything and patronize them. I think so a couple of such ships in each fleet are needed at least, and a couple more in reserve. And the hydrofoil ships are somehow forgotten (was Alekseev really so far across his throat that all his creations were removed under the cloth?). What is your opinion on the required number of hovercraft rocket ships? Or are you talking about talking in the evening under a cup of tea with rosehips, but in the rubble, and with a tablet in the country?

[Seriomilander]

Bora is a cold northerly wind that collapses with great force on the coast.
Samum - a sultry wind, flying in flurries and accompanied by dust-sand vortices and a storm (sand hurricane).

[FID]

Quote: Seriomilander

Bora - cold north wind

I would call it not "northern", but a katabatic wind ... It flows from Mithridates ... Even though Mithridates is in the north of Novorossiysk ...

[Karayakupovo]

Not only from Mithridates (this is a small mountain in Kerch) compared to the one that flows from the Caucasus Mountains. This has happened more than once in Novorossiysk itself.

[atamankko]

Everywhere we have to show the flag of Russia to remember.

[sabakina]

Quote: atamankko

Everywhere we have to show the flag of Russia to remember.

Unfortunately, they remember the flag of the Navy of the Republic of Ingushetia less than the flag of the Navy of the USSR ...

[made13]

Few ships to actively demonstrate power. Unfortunately.

[halzan7]

The most important thing is that people are captains and sailors who passed the test so to speak, and as they say in the article successfully! And it does not matter what rank your ship is. Muzhiki for a successful return and for the patience of your wives and girlfriends !!!! HOORAY!!!!

[veksha50]

The crews that Samuma, that Shakhtar are heroic guys ... On ships of this level - well, far from ocean and far - staying for three months away from the bases is already something ... Not to mention participation in exercises .. .

And then they come home - and next to the pelvis with a sea breeze hang out ... The guys from Samum can only creak their cheekbones, teeth ...

[colonel manuch]

A good karablik, Soviet-built, powerful weapons, that's just very noisy, if anyone was, that one knows.

[Karayakupovo]

For this, the design speed is about 45 knots and he has a catamaran type hull.

[EDDI 76]

the main thing is that he returned, and this is a fact!

[Alex1313]

Quote: Oleg147741

Quote: Haettenschweiler

Compared to the naval power of the USSR, it still looks pale.

So the USSR also began poorly after three revolutions, the Civil War and the 1st World War!

Think correctly, not all at once

[shelva]

Quote: Soviet Union

But now is another time: neither revolution, nor civil, nor world ...

Yes, the time is different, a lot of enemies of the fatherland divorced at all levels of Russian society and government. There is the same civil war, only secretive.

[Cartman]

Quote: Oleg147741

Quote: Haettenschweiler

Compared to the naval power of the USSR, it still looks pale.

So the USSR also began poorly after three revolutions, the Civil War and the 1st World War!

you would be more careful, my brain can burst from such ruts

[Yugra]

The missile carrier returned on time. Just to the teachings of hohlopups and the non-donation of mattresses ...

[Starik72]

I am not a sailor, but I liked the ship, beautiful! See how he walks on the waves, apparently awesome action! Pobol such and other ships and submarines !!!

[Anchonsha]

I would like to hear and read such news every day and so that the ships spend more time off the coast of the United States.

[80BIPIHA]

Wow a tugboat like a destroyer!

[Termit1309]

Quote: Manul

As they were made by two pieces, so decay. The technique is serious and powerful. but there are no articles on the continued production of hovercraft rockets and discussions are not going on. My questions on the forums - why - do not find the answer.

RCC range has increased. Stealth - technology has become more commonly used. An ordinary (displacement) RTO with RCC ONIX and stealth elements is cheaper, simpler and stronger.