Since the Third World War, the USA is already late




The war was needed by the United States to avoid the collapse of its own economy. But in a situation of market collapse, war will not help.

US earned good money on World War II, selling weapon to all countries of the world. The Soviet Union was sold exclusively for gold. And not a single bomb fell on the territory of the United States. Now the situation is quite different. Sowing chaos and instability around the world, the United States did get a retaliatory strike. What happened was what the Americans were most afraid of - the joint war between Russia and China against the dollar.

Pressure on China has sharply increased after May 9. In Washington, the Chinese leader Xi Jinping did not like the friendly talks in Moscow. There was a mess in Hong Kong that was quickly cooled. Maneuvers in the East China Sea, finally, accidents at chemical plants. The Chinese didn’t endure this and pulled the trigger of the First World Economic War. For which, in principle, prepared for a long time. At first, China devalued the yuan, which led to a collapse on the Shanghai Stock Exchange Shanghai Composite Index by 7,6%. Then China began to actively intervene in the foreign exchange market, using its reserves. For a short period, Beijing sold fantastic volumes of US bonds, and this affected the yield of bonds.

In just two weeks, China sold bonds for more than 100 billion dollars. August 24 has already been announced as Black Monday. One of the oldest among existing US stock indices, Dow Jones, has fallen by more than 200 points for four days. At the close of the stock exchange on Tuesday, 25 in August, Dow Jones was again in the red zone, setting a new anti-record. For the first time in my 119-year-old history The Dow Jones index rapidly dropped 1089 points to the 15.370 mark, which is a new anti-record for the entire existence of this index (the previous anti-record was recorded in 2008 year and amounted to 777 base points).

Since 19 August, the traditional synchronous movement of US stocks and bond yields has been disrupted. This way of life was maintained for almost 30 years, but that all changed in one day.

Russia and China get rid of US bonds for the second year. But slowly. For the period from December 2013, the volume of treasuries owned by Russia has decreased from $ 149,9 billion to $ 86 billion, as evidenced by the results of a study by the American Ministry of Finance and the Federal Reserve System. From the beginning of 2015, China has sold treasury bonds for $ 107 billion. And here is a breakthrough. For the last two weeks, as for the whole year.

Large volumes of US securities make the Chinese economy dependent on the United States. For the collapse of quotations beats on China itself. But the fact that this would have to be done was understood by everyone, so they got rid of the papers gradually. To minimize losses. At the end of June 2015, the volume of US Treasury securities on the balance of the People’s Bank of China is estimated at $ 1,271 trillion. But, losing the securities, China lost its influence on the United States. And China nevertheless decided to strike this blow. If securities are sold quickly, then they are worthless for others, but not for you. Therefore, China decided to no longer catch the financial wind that blows from Washington, but create the wind itself. Now that you have completed this step, you cannot stop. According to experts, maintaining a similar pace of sales will allow the People’s Bank of China to intervene for another 18 weeks.

Whether the US economy will withstand such a blow is unknown. More likely no than yes. Similar strikes against the US financial system have never been done. Therefore, it is obvious that it is too late to start a military conflict. According to experts, with each percentage of the markets falling, the amount of required injections grows by about 200 billion dollars. In ten days from August 19, the loss of capitalization of the American economy has already exceeded 1,6 trillion dollars. And the process is almost out of control. The dollar against the euro fell by 1,5% - to 1,12 dollar per euro. Gone up in oil prices. The Russian ruble went up too, having immediately won back 5 rubles from the dollar.

In this situation, the United States has to pay more attention to internal problems and curtail its external presence. Obama is almost multiplied by zero. It requires the immediate adoption of the budget and the next increase in the threshold of public debt. But this only contributes to the growth of distrust towards the United States. In the United States itself, mistrust is growing both towards Democrats and Republicans, and the ratings of the notorious Trump unexpectedly grow. I would not be surprised if Donald Trump becomes the next president of the United States, although it will be very out of the ordinary. This will destroy the entire political system in the United States. A small victorious war to save the Democratic rating in the elections, the United States will not succeed. And Ukraine is not the place where the Americans could win.

Poroshenko was not accidentally invited to Berlin. So that he leaves his military rhetoric, for in Moscow it was made clear that there will be no third Minsk, but there will be a surrender. Moreover, Moscow as the guarantor of the Minsk Agreements, which became a UN document with the light hand of Russia, in the event Kiev uses force now has the right to conduct peace enforcement operations like in Georgia in 2008.

And no one else will give money to Kiev. No one. The crisis. Money could be given by Russians and Chinese. But not this power and subject to real federalization, where the regions will receive real independence up to their own armed forces. Nobody has ever disarmed the winners yet. Therefore, there was talk of adopting a new Constitution, only the current Supreme Council is clearly not capable of this. A World War with guns and tanks will be gone. Black Monday August 24, 2015 has already become a kind of economic Pearl Harbor and is likely to go down in history as the beginning of the First World Economic War. And if the United States loses in this world economic war to Russia and China, in Ukraine everything will be Donbass. I often saw such inscriptions in Kiev on the walls of houses. They apparently wanted to give a negative meaning. And present as a threat. But time is the chief judge. And the meaning is sometimes reversed. Now it will be salvation.
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  1. Hammer 1 September 2015 05: 43 New
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    Che some kind of muddle is incomprehensible, it seems like a manipulation
    1. Scandinavian 1 September 2015 06: 28 New
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      Nothing unclear article. I liked the economic part. Confirmed the actions of China. Throwing treasuries into the US market. This makes me happy.
      1. Letun 1 September 2015 07: 13 New
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        Quote: Scandinavian
        Confirmed the actions of China. Throwing treasuries into the US market. This makes me happy.

        This, of course, is pleasing, but the author, in my opinion, celebrates victory too early. The premise of the article recalled a recent statement by a lop-eared monkey that the Russian economy was torn to shreds. Give wishful thinking.
        1. moL4yn 1 September 2015 07: 26 New
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          I agree with you. Here is a site with indexes. Everything is displayed online. It’s easier to watch yourself than to read different experts. http://en.investing.com/indices/major-indices
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          WKS 1 September 2015 09: 39 New
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          Quote: Letun
          Quote: Scandinavian
          Confirmed the actions of China. Throwing treasuries into the US market. This makes me happy.

          This, of course, is pleasing, but the author, in my opinion, celebrates victory too early. The premise of the article recalled a recent statement by a lop-eared monkey that the Russian economy was torn to shreds. Give wishful thinking.

          How many of these “Throws in Treasuries” the PRC will need if there are more than a trillion $ US bonds. All this looks like tactical fuss with its own currency rather than a strategic overhead task of collapsing green. Half of Chinese products are sold in the United States, from which these dollars have accumulated. Everything is not so simple as the author of the article depicted.
        3. Altona 1 September 2015 10: 50 New
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          Quote: Letun
          The premise of the article recalled a recent statement by a lop-eared monkey that the Russian economy was torn to shreds. Give wishful thinking.

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          War is not one battle, just Black Monday revealed the great vulnerability of the US market to China’s actions ... Or rather, the Chinese and American economies were kind of interconnected vessels ... Resetting treasures is something like a “bell” that’s enough feed Fashmington "... China wants to create a new global economy based on the Silk Road, tied to itself, and much larger than the US ...
          PS One can count the Third World countdown from the fall of the USSR and the beginning of the First War in Iraq, from the beginning of the bombing of Yugoslavia, from the second war in Iraq ... The war with Russia in the active phase began on 08.08.08 in South Ossetia ...
        4. NordUral 1 September 2015 16: 41 New
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          It’s a universal misfortune to run ahead of a steam locomotive, but God forbid that everything without any atomic mushrooms on the planet suffers ..
      2. Alexey-74 1 September 2015 11: 29 New
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        I support a clearly traced line of a non-random collapse of the exchange in China, and Russia surprisingly quieted down taking nothing to strengthen the ruble .... in general, the economic war began ... wait and see. That’s why Russia and China are building up their gold reserves.
      3. Schulz 1 September 2015 12: 22 New
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        Quote: Scandinavian
        Nothing unclear article. I liked the economic part. Confirmed the actions of China. Throwing treasuries into the US market. This makes me happy.

        What do you like about the economic part? Beautiful phrase "Throwing Treasuries into the US Market"?
        Not a single paragraph of the article can withstand any criticism and is suitable only for reading by urapatriots who do not even want / cannot think about what they read.
        Point by point:
        Personally, it’s completely incomprehensible to me why the author wrote that China could not stand
        Maneuvers in the East China Sea, finally, accidents at chemical plants.

        didn’t add the collapse of the metro station under construction here to a heap? But a fool should be clear that "I also ruined the chapel".

        At first, China devalued the yuan, which led to the collapse of the Shanghai Composite Index by 7,6%. Then China began to actively intervene in the foreign exchange market, using its reserves. In a short period, Beijing sold simply fantastic volumes of US bonds, and this affected the yield of bonds.

        Those. According to the author, China did not devalue the yuan in order to increase the competitiveness of its goods (the same metallurgy, which became more and more difficult to compete with the same Russian against the background of a falling ruble), but to spite America? And until then, had the yuan maintained a high exchange rate by making foreign exchange interventions (300 billion dollars since the beginning of the year) - in order to weaken the US economy? Just like the far-sighted central bank of the Russian Federation, first weakening the American economy through currency interventions, and then buying up US securities, so what?

        Russia and China are getting rid of US bonds for the second year. But slowly. Since December 2013, the volume of treasuries owned by Russia has decreased from $ 149,9 billion to $ 86 billion,

        Basting on cola ... i.e. again - Russia sells (and then buys again wink ) US securities not to maintain their own economy, but to destroy the American?
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        2. Schulz 1 September 2015 12: 22 New
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          Now, having taken this step, one cannot stop. According to experts, maintaining such a pace of sales will allow the People's Bank of China to intervene for another 18 weeks.

          I would recommend that the author at least occasionally read economic publications, especially Chinese, since he writes about China. So, the Chinese Central Bank said it is refusing further (at least such large-scale) foreign exchange interventions and the RMB rate will be determined by supply and demand. Whether the Chinese Central Bank will keep its word or not, I personally do not know, but such a statement has a place to be.

          And the process is practically out of control. The dollar against the euro fell by 1,5% - to 1,12 dollars per euro. We went into rising oil prices. The Russian ruble also went up, having won back 5 rubles from the dollar at once.

          Something I was tired of commenting on the author’s progressive nonsense. About the constant short-term fluctuations of the American currency against the European one, and especially about the "growth of the Russian ruble, which won back 5 rubles from the dollar right away." As if before this, the ruble stood stably in place and did not fall by the same 5 rubles to the dollar.

          The last thing I would like to comment on in this "analytical" "article" clearly characterizes the author:
          The US made good money on the Second World War, selling weapons to all countries of the world. The Soviet Union was sold exclusively for gold.

          The United States never sold weapons to the Soviet Union during World War II for gold. Under Lend-Lease everything (including weapons) was delivered for FREE! After the war ended, the USSR paid for what it decided to keep. For the fact that he returned - did not pay.

          PS: So continue to read such "articles", give them more pluses and write in the comments: "Great article! The author put everything on the shelves."
          1. Altona 1 September 2015 14: 45 New
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            Quote: Schulz
            The United States never sold weapons to the Soviet Union during World War II for gold. Under Lend-Lease everything (including weapons) was delivered for FREE! After the war ended, the USSR paid for what it decided to keep. For the fact that he returned - did not pay.

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            Nothing ... And did they send ships with gold to the village of grandfather? Lend-lease therefore was called, from the word "leasing", a lease with the right to redeem ... And "free", it would be called for FREE-free of charge or military aids ... If you write, and you consider yourself an expert, then at least look through a financial dictionary ... Any nonsense can be written in the comments, and I sin with this, but at least you should not juggle with terms. It’s just that under the terms of this lease it was written that “equipment destroyed in battle is not payable,” because the dead pilot or tanker paid for it with his life, while the American soldier needs to pay insurance. You have to pay for everything in this life, but for their "help" by itself ...

            PS And “debts for the war”, although we paid them in millions of lives, the USSR and Russia returned, and even for World War I to French banks that issued fraudulent bills and bonds, but they didn’t return royal gold to us, even though they tacitly admitted that it it seems to be there, but "there are no legitimate heirs" ... That's the whole Western "business honesty" ... As regards industrial assistance in general, with such volumes of output, this equipment cost a penny, and American plants were state-owned, but surrendered to industrialists for rent ... That is, the American vaunted capitalists even saved a lot of money on capital expenditures, and the management system and logistics were built so competently that the US industry produced 10 times more products than Japan, 3-5 times more than Germany ...
            1. TWR
              TWR 1 September 2015 15: 12 New
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              Quote: Altona
              Nothing ... And did they send ships with gold to the village of grandfather?

              Not everything that the USSR received during the war was Lend-Lease supplies. Something was bought. This primarily concerned dual-use technologies and equipment. Before the war, they did not sell it in the USSR, because he was expelled as an aggressor from the League of Nations. And after the outbreak of war, the ban was lifted. And they used it.
              For example, if it were not for purchases (for gold, as you write), then there would be no T-34/85 tank. Because before the war in the USSR there was not (more precisely, not enough; only 52-K was enough) equipment for the production of its S-53 gun. The same applies to guns ZIS-2 arr. 1943 Cannons for tanks IS-2. And much more.
              1. Altona 1 September 2015 17: 04 New
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                Quote: TWR
                Not everything that the USSR received during the war was Lend-Lease supplies. Something was bought. This primarily concerned dual-use technologies and equipment. Before the war, they did not sell it in the USSR, because he was expelled as an aggressor from the League of Nations. And after the outbreak of war, the ban was lifted. And they used it.

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                I did not claim that all the assistance was under the Lend-Lease. One does not exclude the other and trade in the war does not stop, but rather, on the contrary, it may increase. With regards to technology, not a lot of technologies were transferred, anyway, I had to think a lot ourselves when looking at American models. Just as it is now being done in China ... The term "leasing" simply means some kind of payment, not a freebie ... The most interesting thing is that it was us who demanded that they pay, and they forgive the other countries. And another point, the Lend-Lease, was generally intended for Great Britain, and Stalin agreed to "pinch off" the quota for Churchill. So if you really pick the history of the issue, then you need to pick it to the end ...
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                  TWR 1 September 2015 22: 06 New
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                  Quote: Altona
                  With regards to technology, not a lot of technologies were transferred, anyway, I had to think a lot ourselves when looking at American models.

                  You can’t imagine much without equipment. If not for American equipment, then already starting in 1943. there would be nothing to fight with German tanks. This was especially pronounced near Kursk in the same 1943. Great battle cost the USSR this battle. After all, it was fought with old weapons. And this weapon, three-inches and forty-five, the limit of capabilities of the Soviet pre-war equipment, by then completely "dead". And there was nothing to replace them without new equipment.
                  1. Docent1984 2 September 2015 13: 59 New
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                    What grass did you smoke?
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                      TWR 2 September 2015 15: 46 New
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                      Quote: Docent1984
                      What grass did you smoke?

                      I do not have your habits.
                      On the merits of the issue of objection is? Want to tell us a "life story" about how you can chop tanks with drafts?
                      1. Docent1984 3 September 2015 13: 46 New
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                        Well, if you consider DP-27, ML-20, BR-19, 85mm anti-aircraft guns, ZIS-3, tanks T-34, KV-2 (this is what came to mind fluently, if you dig, you can pick up more) with outdated weapons Then what could be the objection? fellow But seriously, then at one of the country's oldest defense plants - Barricades (these are the ones that, in addition to barrel artillery now produce Topol and Iskander), I visited several times and saw with my own eyes the machines that have been there since the middle of 30x years worth) In addition to the Swiss press, purchased before the revolution, and several dozen captured German gear cutters, all Soviet-made machines wink
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                        TWR 3 September 2015 15: 21 New
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                        Quote: Docent1984
                        Well, if you consider DP-27, ML-20, BR-19, 85mm anti-aircraft guns, ZIS-3, tanks T-34, KV-2 (this is what came to mind fluently, if you dig, you can pick up more) with outdated weapons Then what could be the objection?

                        What about checkers is canceled? Tell us how to "beat up tanks" using the BR-19? laughing
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                        I’ve been several times and saw with my own eyes the machines that have been standing there since the mid 30s)

                        Happy for you. It was a pity it was impossible to produce anything good on them. The maximum is the level of 40 klb. three inches (EIS-3, T-34/76). By the middle of the war, it was called "below the baseboard."
                      3. Docent1984 4 September 2015 13: 45 New
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                        For those who served on an armored train, trunks for the BR-19 (caliber - 152mm - if you are too lazy to read it yourself), ML-20 (caliber - 152mm) were very successfully made on these "worthless" machines. A little later, they also began to make trunks for IS-2 and ISU-152 on them.

                        And as for your first send - the tanks do not "crush", but destroy. I don’t know about you, but I understand that howitzers are not used to destroy moving tanks. To combat tanks, hand grenades, anti-tank rifles, barrel artillery, tanks, self-propelled artillery mounts are used (this is for the years under consideration). If you are so stubbornly wedging on one component of anti-tank weapons - the barrel artillery, it’s not a question, you can hit such ones in particular. The ZIS-3 divisional cannon, loaded with the 53-BR-354P sub-caliber projectile, pierced the frontal armor with a thickness of 105mm from a distance of 300m. To fight medium tanks is enough. But the enemy’s use of heavy tanks in droves led to the need to create in 43 SU-122 caliber 122mm. These self-propelled guns were made, correctly, on Soviet machines wink
                        You know, you are trying in vain to argue with me on this issue, because I am an assistant professor at the Department of Engineering Technology, and even more, I work at the Faculty of Automated Systems, Transport and Arms. And about how and on what gun barrels are made, well, it's not for you to tell me smile
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        3. Schulz 1 September 2015 18: 10 New
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          Quote: Altona

          Nothing ... And did they send ships with gold to the village of grandfather?

          Since you do not know your own story, I will tell you. “Steamboats with gold” as well as furs, ore and other valuable raw materials were sent to ENGLAND since 1942. The first ship was torpedoed and sank. They raised it only in 1990.

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          Lend-lease was therefore called so, from the word "leasing", a lease with the right to redeem ... And "free", it would be called for FREE-free of charge or military aids ... Anyone can write nonsense in the comments, and I sin with this, but at least with terms I must not juggle

          Well, since you are such a connoisseur of English terms, then translate the first word to me. And then voice the figure of this same lease, which the Soviet Union paid for "non-free" assistance.

          Quote: Altona
          It’s just that under the terms of this leasing it was written that “equipment destroyed in battles is not payable”,

          If you do not know what the original text of the document looks like, do not write your interpretation of it, do not disgrace.
          - delivered materials (vehicles, various military equipment, weapons, raw materials, other items) destroyed, lost and used during the war are not subject to payment (Article 5);
          - property transferred under Lend-Lease, remaining after the end of the war and suitable for civilian purposes, will be paid in full or in part on the basis of long-term loans provided by the United States
          (mainly interest-free loans).

          Quote: Altona

          PS And “debts for the war”, even though we paid them with millions of lives, USSR and Russia returned,

          You are generally in this topic "not in the tooth with your foot", and still climb to discuss it and write something about nonsense.
          Russia until now has not paid for the land lease. The deadline for final repayment of debt is 2030. Learn the materiel.
          PS: Do you want to talk about how the Americans "boiled down" on us, what "cents" this equipment cost (by the way, why only the equipment?) And what was delivered?
          1. Altona 1 September 2015 20: 38 New
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            - property transferred under Lend-Lease, remaining after the end of the war and suitable for civilian purposes, will be paid in full or in part on the basis of long-term loans provided by the United States (mainly interest-free loans).

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            And then disgrace? You are somehow more careful in expressions ... With your theses you yourself write about PAYMENT, and with money of loans or with your own assets, there’s no difference ... And I don’t need to know the terms of payment, in the morning you can agree on payment, in the evening it’s canceled at lunch about a discount ...
            PS We are talking about paying in general, and not about FREE from the beginning ... Lend-lease literally-leasing on the loan granted ...
            1. Schulz 1 September 2015 22: 00 New
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              Again. Especially for you. On the shelves.

              The author wrote that:"The US made good money on World War II, selling weapons to all countries of the world. Sold to the Soviet Union exclusively for gold. "
              I replied that the US never did not sell weapons USSR and moreover for gold.
              You decided to “shine with erudition” and started writing about “steamers with gold” completely unaware that they were intended not at all by the USA. Well, like: were the steamboats? Were! For weapons? Yes, for weapons! To whom? What's the difference. "Are there few Pedrov in Brazil"?

              Then, with tenacity worthy of a better application, you grabbed onto the term "Lend-Lease" completely without delving into the essence of what is happening. Type: "leasing implies some kind of payment"? Well, that's all there further bother.

              I think you can skip your free interpretation of the conditions of lenl lease.

              After this extravaganza continued. As it turned out:"Lend-Lease was generally intended for Great Britain and Stalin agreed to "pinch" from the quota for Churchill.:" No more no less.

              Well and completed your extravaganza of the absurd the statement that "USSR debt paid".

              And after all this, you ask: "What does one have to disgrace"? You are an interesting person!
              1. Altona 2 September 2015 15: 23 New
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                I think you can skip your free interpretation of the conditions of lenl lease.

                After this extravaganza continued. As it turned out: "Lend-Lease was generally intended for Great Britain and Stalin agreed to" pinch off "the quota for Churchill .:" No more, no less.

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                I didn’t ask you anything at all, Mr. Schulz ... I don’t need to demonstrate the troll’s extras and shake the air ... There were ships with gold, trains and planes ... I am not a member of the chamber of commerce and I don’t read contracts .. . For something they paid, they took on credit ... What I write is in literature and other sources, I can’t judge their reliability, it’s on the conscience of the authors ... You did not show a diploma of a historian either, you hide under Jewish-German surname and delusionally argue that you know everything and everything ... I also read a lot of literature at one time, I write from memory, I don’t impose my opinion on anyone ... Go through the woods ...
          2. Altona 1 September 2015 20: 43 New
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            Quote: Schulz
            You are generally in this topic "not in the tooth with your foot", and still climb to discuss it and write something about nonsense.
            Russia until now has not paid for the land lease. The deadline for final repayment of debt is 2030. Learn the materiel.
            PS: Do you want to talk about how the Americans "boiled down" on us, what "cents" this equipment cost (by the way, why only the equipment?) And what was delivered?

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            Do you imagine yourself an expert on everything and everything? And why do you think so. that the Americans are not welded? That is, for you, the life of Soviet soldiers is an empty phrase, just voiced speeches at the parade? Missile and atomic technologies pulled out of Germany, industrial designs, for which the Soviet soldiers laid down, is this also so-so prey? The USSR is not involved in it? You yourself would have taught the materiel how to use braids of copy-paste to stir up the brains and replace theses ...
            PS The capture of new markets as a result of the war, the Bretton Woods system is, of course, also "altruism" and "lack of remoteness" of the USA ...
            1. Schulz 1 September 2015 22: 13 New
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              Where did you go now?
              If I believe that the Americans didn’t make enough money on Lend-Lease (but how could they make it on them by putting weapons and everything else for the sum of 11 billion dollars in prices of 45 years and still not having received 700 million in real prices?), then for me the life of Soviet soldiers is an empty phrase? How is this related?
              What is the relationship between the “Missile and nuclear technologies pulled out of Germany, industrial designs for which the Soviet soldiers laid down” and the Lend-Lease conditions? AS?
              And in what area should I learn materiel?
          3. Altona 1 September 2015 20: 47 New
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            Since you do not know your own story, I will tell you.

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            Why do I need your interpretations of history, and even with their own insinuations? Have you witnessed the events? Mikoyan or Molotov Parker filed an agreement to sign?
            PS The wording of the terms of payment was not given by me, but by Wikipedia ...
            1. Schulz 1 September 2015 22: 24 New
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              Do not write nonsense. Unlike you, I studied this topic not superficially but thoroughly and I know what I'm writing about. And certainly not for you to catch me in a lie.
              LETTER OF THE SECRETARY OF STATE OF THE USA
              D. ACHESON, AMBASSADOR OF THE USSR TO THE USA A.S. PANYUSHKIN
              ON THE QUESTION OF SETTLEMENT OF CALCULATIONS ON THE LEND-LIZ you want to read? Horizons for.
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                Quote: Schulz
                LETTER OF THE SECRETARY OF STATE OF THE USA
                D. ACHESON, AMBASSADOR OF THE USSR TO THE USA A.S. PANYUSHKIN
                ON THE QUESTION OF SETTLEMENT OF CALCULATIONS ON THE LEND-LIZ you want to read? Horizons for.

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                I read, and what? The United States government simply goes to a discount, it is his right, but that doesn’t cancel the payment itself ... We can conclude an agreement with you for the supply of goods for one hundred rubles, and then mutually cancel the payment amount, but initially the agreement is not free ... As regards “gold”, at that time all assets were secured by physical gold, that is, any official check or bill of exchange would also be confirmed by physical gold and guaranteed by the State Bank ... If you substitute theses, then I’ll juggle ... And Your "enchanting" nonsense is not interesting for me to read, everyone subtracts what he considers important ... Was there a deal? Was ... Payment was implied ...
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            Quote: Schulz
            You are generally in this topic "not in the tooth with your foot", and still climb to discuss it and write something about nonsense.

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            I’ll give you one piece of advice, or rather, it’s not even mine, I simply read: “Issuing redundant information on a topic leads to completely opposite results, and not to those that you sought if you wanted to convince the interlocutors on the forum.” And go to personalities less, I don’t impose my opinion on you and I’m not going to change it, I’ll read the necessary information myself, and I will believe it, I won’t believe it myself either ...
      4. patriot-rf 1 September 2015 17: 13 New
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        The United States never sold weapons to the Soviet Union during World War II for gold. Under Lend-Lease everything (including weapons) was delivered for FREE! After the war ended, the USSR paid for what it decided to keep. For the fact that he returned - did not pay.

        You are kind, you probably don’t know the conditions of Lend-Lease. EVERYTHING that you couldn’t return in good condition after the war, that is, on the go, for example, PAY GOLD. And it was like that in Murmansk: they climb into the Studer’s cabin, start, wound up well, the unit was noted, and on the ship. On the ship under the press, then the next technique and. etc. The only thing that did not go under the press tanks. Even = king cobras = pressed. How do I know, I will say. First-hand. I had a grandfather in the commission on Lend-Lease. So study the sources as you advise the author .... wink
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          Quote: patriot-RF
          You are kind, you probably don’t know the conditions of Lend-Lease. EVERYTHING that you couldn’t return in good condition after the war, that is, on the go, for example, PAY GOLD. And it was like that in Murmansk: they climb into the Studer’s cabin, start, wound up well, the unit was noted, and on the ship. On the ship under the press, then the next technique and. etc. The only thing that did not go under the press tanks. Even = king cobras = pressed. How do I know, I will say. First-hand. I had a grandfather in the commission on Lend-Lease. So study the sources as you advise the author ...

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          To be honest, I have already forgotten the conditions of Lend-Lease, but the point is that you still had to pay for something. If it were absolutely free, then everything would be free and the word "free" would be called ... If you follow your logic, then the USSR paid 700 million dollars in vain ...
          PS
          delivered materials (cars, various military equipment, weapons, raw materials, other items) destroyed, lost and used during the war are not subject to payment (Article 5); [3]
          property transferred under Lend-Lease property remaining after the end of the war and suitable for civilian purposes will be paid in full or in part on the basis of long-term loans provided by the United States (mainly interest-free loans);
          if the American side is interested, undamaged and unused machinery and equipment should be returned after the war in the USA. [3]


          Immediately after the war, the United States sent to countries receiving Lend-Lease assistance a proposal to return the surviving military equipment and pay off the debt in order to receive new loans. Since the Lend-Lease Act provided for the cancellation of used military equipment and materials, the Americans insisted on paying only for civil supplies: railway transport, power plants, ships, trucks and other equipment that were in the recipient countries as of September 2, 1945 [50]. The United States did not require compensation for the military equipment destroyed during the fighting.
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          PPS If we take into account how much civil equipment was delivered to us, then the amount is of course decent, we only imported steam locomotives and ships ...
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            Quote: Altona
            but the point is that you still had to pay for something. If it were absolutely free, then everything would be free and the word "free" would be called ...


            Quote: Altona
            The United States did not require compensation for the military equipment destroyed during the fighting.

            You wrote it. And here is what I wrote.
            The US never sold weapons to the Soviet Union during the great patriotic for gold.

            Once again
            Quote: Altona
            If you follow your logic, then 700 million dollars of the USSR paid completely in vain ...

            Neither the USSR nor Russia have paid the debt until now.
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              Neither the USSR nor Russia have paid the debt until now.

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              This is the second question, and in fact the substitution of the thesis ... The amount of debt can be shook indefinitely if the fact of debt itself was somehow recognized ... But the fact that it is "free" does not mean ...
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                When you claim that the debt has been paid and you are being caught lying - write: “This is the second question” and don’t worry.
                This is perhaps the end. Good luck!
        2. Schulz 1 September 2015 18: 52 New
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          Quote: patriot-RF

          You are kind, you probably don’t know the conditions of Lend-Lease. EVERYTHING that you couldn’t return in good condition after the war, that is, on the go, for example, PAY GOLD.

          I know
          Lend-Lease Provisions stipulated that after the war, if the American side was interested, undamaged and unused machinery and equipment should be returned to the United States.
          Those. Now you want to say that the USSR did not want to keep all the "undefeated and unused" machinery and equipment, but wanted to return the United States and they also wandered about?

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          PAYING GOLD.

          Now pay attention to how quickly this connoisseur of history will merge. Or he’ll offer me to find in the library and read some sort of book.

          Is there any evidence for this?
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        prior to the signing of the Lend-Lease Agreement on 11.6.1942. only for gold.
  • MIKHAN 1 September 2015 06: 28 New
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    Everything goes like in a joke:
    "Where to hurry? In the evening we’ll go down the mountain and set the herd on ....." Although, according to the Chinese proverb, "If you sit by the river for a long time, you will see the enemy’s floating corpse" Of course it does not suit us! The enemy is strong and treacherous .... The dollar needs to be wet!
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      And also our Russian proverb, how a rope does not curl, and there will always be an end.
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      The enemy is strong and treacherous .... The dollar needs to be wet!

      This enemy has a strong regeneration system like the mythical hydra: it is the US Federal Reserve. Ability like a lizard with a tail. So far, China has only preempted the tail of the dollar, but we have to cut our heads.
  • 222222 1 September 2015 08: 47 New
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    US is already late for World War III
    In the meantime, REMEMBER 1 SEPTEMBER ,,,,
    "" SEPTEMBER 1 IN HISTORY. THE BEGINNING OF THE SECOND WORLD.
    On September 1, 1939, German troops invaded Poland. Poland decided to make a victim of aggression. This is true - but only partially. For a very long time, warm relations were emphasized between Berlin and Warsaw. In September 1938, Poland took advantage of the hopeless situation of Czechoslovakia, which was forced by Munich agreement to give part of the territory to Germany, and on September 30 it demanded that Prague transfer the Tesinsky district to it. Germany supported the demand of Poland, and Prague lost. Documents have survived that show that Berlin and Warsaw were in talks about stripping SOVIET Ukraine. Also, Poland made attempts to seize part of the territories in the Baltic.
    But this warm alliance had a problem - the Polish Corridor. This is the Polish territory that separated the main part of Germany from East Prussia. Another controversial issue was the city of Danzig (Gdansk), which Berlin wanted to be included in the Reich. But Poland went against Germany, relying too much on her allies - England and France, and forgetting how they easily betrayed Czechoslovakia. Poland had a chance to resist Germany in alliance with the USSR. But Foreign Minister Beck proudly threw: “We will lose our freedom with the Germans, and our souls with the Russians” - Moscow, tired of the tricks of the West and Poland, signed a non-aggression pact with Germany and a secret protocol to it.
    And the war has begun. On September 1, Germany threw 1,6 million soldiers, 6000 guns, 2000 aircraft and 2800 tanks against Poland. Poland responded with 1 million soldiers, 220 tanks, 650 wedges, 4300 guns, and 407 aircraft. Since gaining independence, Poland has been preparing for only one war - in the East. Until 1939, there was not even a plan for a German attack. And when he appeared, he was based on a naive faith in allies. Well, Polish society, even at the beginning of the war, believed that a brave Polish cavalryman would be enough for a couple of weeks to defeat the enemy and walk through the streets of Berlin with a brave march. The stronger the shock from the defeat.
    Despite the unconditional courage, desperate resistance and individual successes of the Polish troops, they suffered heavy defeats one after another. The Polish Air Force, in general, ceased to exist on the third day of the war. On September 6, the General Headquarters, President Ignatius Moscitsky and the Polish government left Warsaw. On September 12, the Germans went to Lviv, on September 14 surrounded Warsaw. On September 22, the assault on the capital began, and on September 28, Warsaw surrendered. Meanwhile, on September 18, the Polish government and military leadership fled to Romania, and from there to England. Polish leaders did not want to lose freedom, limited their souls ...
    And on September 17, after the outcome of the war, by and large was predetermined, the Red Army entered Poland. And she returned what was taken from Russia in the 20s.
    During the war, German troops, according to various estimates, lost 8-16 thousand killed and 300-5029 missing. Poland lost 66 thousand soldiers killed. 420 thousand fell into German captivity, and 230 thousand in the Soviet.
    Well, the Western allies ... They did it out of habit - they tried to sit out. Having declared war on Germany, they shot, for a look, a little and calmed down. And Poland had to disentangle everything alone. It’s a pity that many today forget some of the lessons of history .... ""
    1. baltika-18 1 September 2015 09: 32 New
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      Nothing unclear article. I liked the economic part.

      An article for people who are far from economics. Luzan (author) is an expert who needs to go to school. China sells Treasuries for direct interventions on its stock market. For Shanghai Composite and the Dow Jones are inextricably linked. From August 26, both began to grow. And oil, too. Question why? Larchik just opens. On August 25, there was a speech by Bill Dudley, President of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, who made it clear to stock market players that until there was no rate increase and you could still play.
      Further, the phrase is generally finish. Only Russia and China can give money to Ukraine, no one else has. Luzan go to school, study. China's gold reserves: 2,45 trillion dollars, total external debt 28 trillion dollars. China has no extra money in general, he is forced to throw off treasuries in order to establish the stock market. I am silent about Russia at all. Today we have good liquid reserves of about $ 100 billion. Therefore, the ruble in free oil floatation, its dependence on the price of oil and gas reached 82%, that is, we actually have no economy. The current swing with indices and prices shows this very well.
      1. Sid.74 1 September 2015 10: 35 New
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        28 total foreign debt trillion. dollars.

        What source of information did you get from?
        On December 31 2013, China's external debt 784 billion dollars, which is 9% of GDP, with GDP in 12,3 trillion dollars.
        But the US debt 18,3 trillion dollars, which is 109% of US GDP.
        What a significant difference.
        Britain's debt is almost 10 trillion dollars, which is 396% of GDP.
        Germany's debt is 5,7 trillion dollars, which is 159% GDP.
        France's debt is 5,3 trillion dollars, which is 236% GDP.
        The EU debt is almost 18 trillion dollars, which is 101% of GDP.
        And you are surprised that the stock exchange is in a fever, because it is from the bubbles that the West has inflated on the stock exchange and in its economy. Well, it’s impossible to print money and at the same time keep negative interest rates forever. Sooner or later they burst.
        1. baltika-18 1 September 2015 10: 47 New
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          9% is a net public debt. A total of 28 trillion. Bloomberg. The Chinese bubble is the same as everyone else. You can increase.
          1. baltika-18 1 September 2015 10: 53 New
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            I'll add. Zhenya, you need to look as much as possible. Then the picture will be complete.
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              I'll add. Zhenya, you need to look as much as possible. Then the picture will be complete.

              Mckinsey, so-so source, and wrapped in bloomberg so in general. wink
              One “analyst” from a consulting company considered China’s debt .. incomprehensible to him. He is good, and most importantly, what kind of media-like media personalities he has, and what a colorful name is Simon Kennedy.laughing

              In all seriousness, to say that China’s foreign debt, which is a “global factory” more than in the USA, which produced the last TV in the early nineties, is this a pardon for nonsense.
              According to all sorts of financial tools Mckinsey is known, by drawing on the hedgehog.
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                One “analyst” from a consulting company considered China’s debt .. incomprehensible to him. He is good, and most importantly, what kind of media-like media personalities he has, and what a colorful name is Simon Kennedy.

                Each media character, Zhenya, is at work and behind each media character there are serious people who make economics and politics in the modern world. To understand the whole essence of impending events, you need to consider everything. And even the last three explosions in China: Tianjin Zibo Nanking.
                The smiley is funny, but I guarantee that in the near future there will be no laughing matter. I am ready, and you?
                I’m writing to warn. The clever will understand, the rest, when life pokes his nose. The discussion is over, all the best and goodbye.
                1. Sid.74 1 September 2015 12: 05 New
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                  Every media character, Zhenya, is at work and behind every media character there are serious people who make economics and politics in the modern world.

                  Bloomberg has long been somewhere between “Echo of Moscow” and the rating agency Fitch, more and more “fried” news and less and less sound view of things happening around.
                  As for China, the dropping of the US T-bills is not revenge for the attack on the Chinese stock exchanges that the banks of the West have arranged.
                  This is a painful hold that was held to protect China from encroaching on their sovereign policy. The American authorities naively believed that their financial sector is a hanging cow against which China will never go, but everything turned out differently.
                  The representative of the German Foreign Ministry, for example, asked what China meant when he said that financial companies playing to destabilize the Chinese market would be fined and expelled from the country?
                  The day before, China made a warning to the Deutsche Bank.
                  And lo and behold, after a couple of days everything was quiet.
                  And only in Russia are markets collapsing due to the price of oil,winked liberal nonsense. For the list of banks that moved in the markets in Russia and China are one. One and the same money lenders, the same media people and personalities, the same funds and their owners.
                  And the explosions in China are not just that either. As well as the destabilization of BV and Ukraine, as well as the situation with the flow of migrants to the EU. But all this has nothing to do with Bloomberg, who has turned into a yellow press.
                  And as for the hurricane, it certainly will. Not in vain over the past couple of years, under quite "accidental" circumstances, about 40, high-ranking financial tycoons of the West have died, although there was nothing to foretell them to live and live.
                  Or maybe they knew too much?bully
    2. Zoldat_A 1 September 2015 10: 32 New
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      Quote: 222222
      Poland had a chance to resist Germany in alliance with the USSR. But Foreign Minister Beck proudly threw: “We will lose our freedom with the Germans, and our souls with the Russians” - Moscow, tired of the tricks of the West and Poland, signed a non-aggression pact with Germany and a secret protocol to it.

      Quote: 222222
      Alder lost 66 thousand soldiers killed. 420 thousand fell into German captivity, and 230 thousand in the Soviet.

      So this is not the end of the story - 6 Poles destroyed by the Germans - this is the price Poland paid for her saved soul. I am afraid that in the event of the next "hot" war, Poland will have nothing to save. Why soul to ashes?
  • EvgNik 1 September 2015 05: 48 New
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    It's funny Now the main thing is not to lag behind China. And it’s better to keep up with him.
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      Quote: EvgNik
      Now the main thing is not to lag behind China. And it’s better to keep up with him.

      That's just a "keep up" continuous effort. In the late eighties, the Chinese bought up our household electrical appliances in stores. And now, Chinese Lenovo takes first place in the Russian computer market, etc. gadgets. Lunokhods walked in the seventies on the moon, and now jade hares are running.
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        In quantity - maybe, but in quality ... Well, here I have confidence in Lenovo - and that's it! Better our Aquarius.
    2. afdjhbn67 1 September 2015 07: 55 New
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      if Putin operated on this article, then from the UN rostrum he could say "the US economy is torn to shreds" ... laughing
      By the way, "DELIVERY" did not prevent a couple of three lards from pouring into the economy of the states again in the summer ..
  • tommy717 1 September 2015 06: 07 New
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    The article is encouraging, but it painfully resembles Obama’s remarks about Russia's torn economy, with only the opposite sign. In general, the United States must be destroyed. I would like to see their collapse during my lifetime.
    1. larand 1 September 2015 10: 03 New
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      The article is encouraging

      Even if the author is right and China, along with the capitalists of the Russian Federation, is investing in the states, then all the dividends from this event are privatized only by the capitalists. And we, as we are called "ordinary people", will get a donut hole.
  • Don Cesar 1 September 2015 06: 13 New
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    as they say, we'll see ...
  • Armored optimist 1 September 2015 06: 19 New
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    They say 60-90 days before falling below the plinth.
  • Wolka 1 September 2015 06: 29 New
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    it’s too early to celebrate the victory, there will certainly be changes, and obviously not everyone will survive, this is understandable, but the Yankees will take away a lot of other people's blood in their financial agony ...
  • Denis 60 rus 1 September 2015 06: 41 New
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    everyone got a boost of optimism? - :)
  • rotmistr60 1 September 2015 06: 46 New
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    Black Monday August 24, 2015 has already become a kind of economic Pearl Harbor and is likely to go down in history as the beginning of the First World Economic War.

    The Russian proverb is right: "Do not wake famously while it is quiet."
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      The Russian proverb is right: "Do not wake famously while it is quiet."

      Our rubles fell at the same time almost ten times faster than US stock indices. Indexes fell by 1% or a little more - and we rejoice? Do we not notice our problems? The whole world works for the stability of the US economy! Russia and China have only slightly tried to minimize their participation in this pyramid, but not even get rid of it. Now the stability of the American currency is ensured by the military power and authority of the United States. If necessary, they simply print these pieces of paper as needed - and solve their problems by shifting them to countries that use the dollar, that is, including us.
  • Bigship 1 September 2015 07: 07 New
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    Positive article. There is only one thing ... The Dow Jones fell by 1-2% for the first time in the last 7 years, the Chinese devalued the yuan by 2-3% for the first time in the last 20 years. In our country, the ruble lost 10% in a couple of days, then thought, and ... got another 10 percent in another couple of days, then thought and won back 5%. This is the dynamics !!! Do not compare with the Chinese nor the Americans ... It's sad ...
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      Quote: BigShip
      In our country, the ruble lost 10% in a couple of days, then thought, and ... got another 10 percent in another couple of days, then thought and won back 5%. This is the dynamics !!!

      Guess three times who has a controlling stake in the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, hence the result.
  • mamont5 1 September 2015 07: 49 New
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    Confirmed the actions of China. Throwing treasuries into the US market. This makes me happy.

    This, of course, is pleasing, but the author, in my opinion, celebrates victory too early. The premise of the article recalled a recent statement by a lop-eared monkey that the Russian economy was torn to shreds. Give wishful thinking.

    And victory is still far away. Yes, and the very fall of the United States is unlikely to be painless for the whole world, but ... "We must, Fedya!
  • Doctor Savage 1 September 2015 07: 50 New
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    To the campaign, that prophecy was just about that.
    Which the UN translators translated as "Now they will show you Mother Kuzi."
  • GUKTU 1 September 2015 08: 21 New
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    I am a supporter of the domestic "wooden" ruble. But do not forget that the dollar is in many countries one of the main reserve currencies. Just so mattresses will not give their benefit and will not miss
  • akudr48 1 September 2015 08: 34 New
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    The periodization of world wars is a little embarrassing.

    There is no doubt about the Second World War, WW2 according to theirs, the USSR won there.

    Some believe that World War III was the Cold War or WW3, I don’t remember who won there, Gorbachev said that the world had won then, chewing gum from Lisbon to Vladivostok.

    That is, now the adversary is defeated already in the 4th World War, which is nice, but from time to time doubts were taken.

    Particularly pleased with the situation in Ukraine, that for this reason (America bail), "no one else will give money to Kiev. Nobody. Crisis."

    And then Russia will come to the rescue of Kiev, help partners, where by gas, where by electric power, where by diesel fuel, where by finances. And it already helps.

    But how, after all, the winner must be a generous soul, which is characteristic of Russia without victories.
  • Svetlana 1 September 2015 08: 44 New
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    If the dollar collapses, our entire economy tied to the dollar will collapse. First you need to get rid of the dollar, carry out industrialization, revive agriculture, remove dependence on trade in natural resources, and then watch how the dollar falls. Now it’s just pointless. It’s the same as chopping the branch on which you sit.
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      Svetlana
      If the dollar collapses, then our entire economy will collapse



      ... the fact of the matter is that not all ... will not collapse when replacing the dollar with an EQUIVALENT.
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        hi Well there will be no candy wrappers so what? will the plants get up? the tractor will not start? confused blow job to forget how to do? or a spoon in your mouth with potatoes will not climb? what will change? "whistling" your stupidity is limitless !!!! A prosperous class with a lot of candy wrappers in their pocket will suffer! and the rest will quickly switch to another EQUIVALENT.
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      First you need to get rid of the dollar, carry out industrialization, revive agriculture, remove dependence on trade in natural resources,

      Well, for this, mother must apparently nationalize the subsoil, railway, the main means of production, and this is war!
    3. afdjhbn67 1 September 2015 10: 20 New
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      I have not seen such a sweet, almost childish delight for a long time ... the dollar is almost a corpse, America is in the abyss, tolhe is a step before victory, tolle has already won .. fellow
  • SergeySeverny 1 September 2015 08: 48 New
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    this is only the beginning, if China sells another 200 lard of paper, then it can be confidently said that the war has begun, currency, economic - it doesn’t matter
    and woe to those who did not manage to hide in the yuan
    I advise everyone
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      China sold 1% -PSSh shook for a week. Count if China sells-10% or all-50% ....... that's where the dog is buried!
  • Belarus 1 September 2015 08: 51 New
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    Essentially, I’m more interested in this: when you even drive a small cat into a corner, even it starts to resist. But Americans, in fact, are driven or Americans themselves are most likely driven into a corner. And I have a question: what can Americans throw out to go out or save themselves in this situation? After all, they also perfectly understand and see everything, although for me it would be better if they had strangled themselves and did not torment the rest of the world with their show off.
    1. 97110 1 September 2015 09: 59 New
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      After all, they too understand and see everything perfectly

      Somehow on the box showed. From Mexico, a crowd climbs over a fence in the US. The night shots, you can see a continuous stream of gray human bodies on a gray background. They all understand. Only really want to eat. And the appetite from overcoming the fence will not disappear, as you might imagine.
  • shinobi 1 September 2015 09: 02 New
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    Yes, there isn’t any background whatsoever. The usual stupidity of amers in the world market has returned as a boomerang. The dollar is the same currency as the others. By imposing sanctions, they actually limited their use in the markets. They were warned by everyone, even the lazy ones. And naturally, when the currency is not in demand, why is it necessary if the market is closed, depreciation occurs. All actions with securities are simple and understandable in this context. There is an opportunity to sell faster. Business, nothing personal. There is a way to save, very simple. Remove sanctions and open trade unhindered. But! In this case, the United States becomes dependent on the trade situation like everyone else, and does not dictate it. What they cannot afford, huh, hegemon. And the cart of politics is placed in front of the donkey to the economy. The northern fox is inevitable for the United States to love . And the blame for this lies entirely with US politicians, since the natural laws of the economy are unchanged. If sanctions, not only anti-Russian, are not lifted, the United States will be destroyed. They will be removed, they will lose power.
  • anderles66 1 September 2015 09: 27 New
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    Here the author believes that the United States was late. I think no. Late for what? To win? Or to start a mess? It’s too early to talk about this. First, to indicate a steady trend, you need to wait a bit and look at the actions of key players, in particular China, as the main holder of the indicated American papers. Perhaps it was a demonstration. Not the fact that China thinks the same way as the author. Secondly, it’s never too late to start a war. Especially when it comes to the United States. You can start a war at any moment, even on the principle that "so you don’t get to anyone," so as not to rejoice. A lot of ways to drag China into conflict (Japan, Taiwan, Korea did not just begin to smolder, Tibet and other problems of China can also erupt, for example, simultaneously with Hong Kong, etc., etc.). So I would caution against being overly optimistic. There are many opportunities for provocations in the arsenal of the “masters of the world”, the preparation of which has already been written many times (for example, explosions of “dirty” bombs in Iraq, Ukraine, and even in Europe. Why not in China?).
  • Normal ok 1 September 2015 10: 11 New
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    In May of this year, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation acquired US Treasury securities for 4,1 billion dollars, increasing its investments to 70,1 billion dollars.
    Source: http://3rm.info/main/57994-rossiya-finansiruet-ssha-v-mae-kupila-amerikanskih-ce

    nnyh-bumag-na-summu-chetverti-byudzheta.html
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    Well, did the ice break? The swaggering, narcissistic "God-chosen" Americans have finally fallen into a hole that they were digging for others ... We stock up on popcorn (at affordable prices) and look further.
  • GYGOLA 1 September 2015 10: 44 New
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    As for the article, I DO NOT BELIEVE, much is debatable. I won’t run the sale either, they aren’t there.
  • TWR
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    Russia and China get rid of US bonds for the second year. But slowly. For the period from December 2013, the volume of treasuries owned by Russia has decreased from $ 149,9 billion to $ 86 billion, as evidenced by the results of a study by the American Ministry of Finance and the Federal Reserve System. From the beginning of 2015, China has sold treasury bonds for $ 107 billion. And here is a breakthrough. For the last two weeks, as for the whole year.

    In just two weeks, China has sold bonds for more than $ 100 billion.

    A soap bubble called "economically powerful China" collapses. The Yankees have inflated him to an incredible size, and now he is collapsing. And collapse, in the end. But not at once. Because:
    At the end of June 2015, the volume of US Treasury securities on the balance sheet of the People’s Bank of China is estimated at $ 1,271 trillion.

    Enough for 12-13 micro-crises. And then, krants to China. Will have to live within our means. Those. hungry and poor. And if, God forbid, China rebels, then the bourgeoisie will immediately close their markets in front of him. And these 12-13 micro-crises will occur very quickly, merging into one macro-crisis. Therefore, now he needs to sit on the pope quietly and evenly. In order not to call out ... And quietly try to correct the situation without sharp jerks.
    Therefore, China decided not to catch the financial wind that is blowing from Washington, but to create the wind itself.

    To date, "poor but proud states" can only create a "cheerful wind." This is the one that is launched from the anus. And the financial winds are controlled by the rich, strong and, interestingly, also proud states. About the "popping pride" see the paragraph above.
    Whether the US economy can withstand such a force is unknown. More likely no than yes.

    What’s the blow?
    According to experts, with every percentage drop in markets, the amount of necessary injections is growing by about $ 200 billion. In the ten days since August 19, the loss of capitalization of the American economy has already exceeded $ 1,6 trillion. And the process is practically out of control.

    You "expert opinions" listen less.
    The dollar against the euro fell by 1,5% - to 1,12 dollars per euro.

    But until recently, the euro was worth some miserable $ 1,46. And now as much as $ 1,12. Do you hear yourself from the outside?
    The Russian ruble also went up, having won back 5 rubles from the dollar at once.

    This is the end, Stirlitz thought, putting his hand in his pocket. But he was mistaken, the end was in another pocket. laughing
    Russian and Chinese could give money

    And where would they get it?
    In other words, A. Luzan managed to make me laugh. Cheerful he people.
    1. EGOrkka 2 September 2015 07: 46 New
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      1. The soap bubble called "economically powerful China" collapses.
      2.And then, krants to China. Will have to live within our means.
      3.And what is the blow?
      4.You listen to “expert opinions” less.
      5.And just recently
      6.This is the end, thought
      7. In other words, it was possible


      1. China has material assets-factories! They stand !!!!!
      2. The Chinese economy-produces material assets at a competitive price! Who can be cheaper?
      3.China dropped 1% of bonds - PSH shook for a week. Calculate how much PSH will shake if China drops 50%
      4. Have you heard enough about the ruins of idiots and what better way to live?
      5. Life goes on .... even if you are gone.
      6. Nothing you have succeeded-self-deception and illusions have not yet brought anyone to good.
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        1. China has material assets-factories! They stand !!!!!
        2. The Chinese economy-produces material assets at a competitive price! Who can be cheaper?
        3.China dropped 1% of bonds - PSH shook for a week. Calculate how much PSH will shake if China drops 50%
        4. Have you heard enough about the ruins of idiots and what better way to live?
        5. Life goes on .... even if you are gone.
        6. Nothing you have succeeded-self-deception and illusions have not yet brought anyone to good.

        1. Foreign plants. And so someone else's profit. Foreign and exported. The products of their factories have a difficult path to developed markets. The Chinese are trying, but nobody is waiting for them there. The domestic market is also not able to help, for this the country is not rich enough. Therefore, dependence on the West is not weak. And about some tricks that China is preparing the United States can write only in articles of this level.
        2. In China, production is already expensive today. Production is being brought to the less affluent countries of Southeast Asia.
        3. Some short time. Then the soap bubbles subside and everything settles down. "Do not make sorrow." The USA has problems in the economy. But they are not tied to China.
        4. This is not understood.
        5. This is apparently just an attempt at rudeness out of the blue.
        6. I get it. Just a tantrum. Monthly periods have been?
        The question is, why write so many points? Half could be removed.
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          1. Foreign plants
          2. In China, production is already expensive today.
          ........


          This is where you taught the economy so?
          or not taught at all?
          Yes, the Chinese economy is more connected with PSG than your words with common sense!
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            This is where you taught the economy so?
            or not taught at all?

            Study the material first. And then engage in discussions.
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              Study the material first.


              Instead of manuals, you need to read thick books on economics! And they take material at a construction site! Maybe you are more familiar at a construction site ... with a shovel.
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                Instead of manuals, you need to read thick books on economics!

                This is for you to read them. And I sometimes write them. It’s a pity that you are reading the wrong books. Or you subtract it.
                Quote: EGOrkka
                And they take the material at the construction site! Maybe you are more familiar at the construction site ... with a shovel.

                Do not align everyone on your own.
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                  Instead of manuals, you need to read thick books on economics!
                  TWR- I sometimes write them



                  ... this is regrettable.
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                    ... this is regrettable.

                    You are mistaken. And in that too.
                    Try to remember one simple thing. “The music is ordered” not by the one with the consumer goods factory, but by the one who controls the sales. He is the chief. And he chooses to whom it is possible to sell consumer goods in his market, and to whom, no.
                    And you have an outdated psychology of times of scarcity. Times have changed.
                    1. EGOrkka 3 September 2015 04: 56 New
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                      “The music is ordered” not by the one with the consumer goods factory, but by the one who controls the sales.


                      You are like a “Hedgehog” in a fog .... then you have PSH and China are not connected with each other, then the main one is sitting in the store .... Open your eyes to the world is brewing "big" SCHUKHER "" with natural consequences. ...... re-pipe and nationalization. And what can a store clerk nationalize? pen? or toilet paper? smile

                      PS. world on the edge .......
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                        in the world brewing "big" SCHUKHER "" with natural consequences ....... over-pipe and nationalization

                        He matures all the way. And it does not ripen. Not yet time. Early. A little bit later.
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                        PS. world on the edge .......

                        The world is slightly wider than one single country.
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    Respect to the author !!! good
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    I replied that the United States had never sold weapons to the USSR, much less for gold.

    The United States did not have any technology or weapons models that could make a significant contribution to the course of hostilities.
    If you look at the supply structure of the USSR under Lend-Lease, military equipment was only a certain part. In addition to it, a massive share was made up of trucks, raw materials and food products, which were not included in the formulation of military losses, and the cost of which had to be paid off.

    Have you heard anything about the tanks glorified in the war from the USA? What about airplanes?
    But probably everyone heard about explosives, stews, trucks, gasoline and oil. So what did the US gesheft do?

    By the way, the Americans refused to supply the most valuable materials to the USSR until it became clear that the situation on the verge, in the event of the victory of the Nazis, the USA might have to fight on their own, which they really did not want.

    US GDP from 38 to 45 years increased almost 2 times. This is a picture of free supplies and universal altruism. No need to really roll into kindergarten.

    US private companies did not disdain to trade with Germany at all throughout the war. The same trucks that were delivered to the USSR, Ford ran into the Nazis through France. Dressed up German submarines. They brought tungsten for armor-piercing shells and duralumin for the aircraft industry, which refused to supply the USSR almost until the middle of the war.