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Apogee "energy security" has come. Poland asks for help

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Heat energy crisis has exposed Poland. Ahead - Fall. And then - and even winter ...

A few weeks of heat, higher than the temperature 30 degree led not only to drought and tragic situation for many Polish farmers record low water levels in rivers and a dramatic increase in fire danger in the forests, but also in the best condition showed the country's energy crisis.

For the first time since the times of socialist Poland, it has reached the point that restrictions have arisen in the supply of electricity to consumers, primarily industrial enterprises, not to mention individual clients who regularly suffer from power outages during every, even minimal, deviation of weather conditions from the norm - year-round, not only in summer.

One of the favorite topics of the eloquent discourse of Donald Tusk, who until the autumn of 2014, served as Polish Prime Minister for seven years, was the issue of “energy security” of Poland and “European energy solidarity”. He spoke about these ideas on every occasion and even without chance - for example, when he suddenly declared that “the European Union will emerge from the crisis around Ukraine even stronger if it rallies around the issue of energy security.”

Under the same slogans, the head of government also liked to appear at promotional events advantageous in terms of propaganda — in particular, in February last year, he attended celebrations to mark the beginning of the construction of two new power units at the thermal power plant in the city of Opole (in the south-west of the country). The cost of this largest stories “New” Poland with 1989, industrial investment will be about 3,3 billion dollars, and new coal-fired power units will supply 1800 MW of energy. According to the plans, the completion of construction of new facilities is scheduled for 2018-2019 years, and at the end of last year Donald Tusk left his office in Warsaw and moved to Brussels, where he occupied the post of EU valet, who has no real influence on the EU Council. Problems of the Polish energy left behind.

All the cornerstones of the “energy security” of Poland turned out to be failures, according to the idea of ​​Tusk. Shale gas, whose courtly mass media seduced Poles with gigantic reserves, was only a myth: all foreign concerns refused to continue its search, citing its insignificant reserves that make commercial production unprofitable. The gas port in Swinoujscie (in the west of the Polish Baltic coast), which for more than a year - according to the initial plans - was supposed to receive vessels with liquefied gas, primarily from Qatar, is still not ready, and the deadlines for the completion of its construction are constantly postponed. And, of course, none of the European leaders seriously took the naive idea of ​​the Polish Prime Minister about joint purchases of Russian gas for the entire European Union - in particular, in his opinion, “European energy solidarity” was also to be based.

Moreover, Tusk’s successor as Prime Minister Eva Kopach signed a “climate package” in Brussels, which imposed obligations on Poland to seriously limit carbon dioxide emissions to the atmosphere. In this connection, contrary to the words of Tusk that “the Polish energy sector will be based on stone and brown coal for many years to come”, already this year and next year we will have to cut off some of the power capacities that could continue to work.

However, now the August heat ruthlessly showed the real state of the Polish energy industry. The power grid began to burst. Restrictions in the supply of electricity felt the 1600 large energy-intensive industrial enterprises. In Silesia, two rolling shops completely stopped. The car factory, collecting "fiaty", was forced to send workers to a maintenance repair idle. In cities in many office buildings, elevators and air conditioners had to be turned off, escalators stopped in shopping centers, fountains froze on the streets, and part of the lighting did not light up.

In the power plants themselves followed a series of accidents. Due to cooling problems of coal-fired power units, two out of eight units of the Polanets power station were shut down with a total capacity of 1800 MW. Electricity production was also interrupted at the country's largest power generating unit, 858 MW, at the world's largest (!) Brown coal-fired power plant in Belchatow (central Poland; by the way, it is also the country's largest producer of carbon dioxide).

Some experts bluntly say that the country “consumed energy investments made in the days of the Polish People's Republic”, and after the 1989 of the year, during the Polish economic “transformation” in this area in proportion to the needs, not very much was done. In addition, on the one hand, the Polish coal-based power industry is hitting the “climate package”, and on the other, there are numerous problems with the use of renewable energy sources. Poland pledged that before 2020, these sources would be 19,3% of all electricity produced in the country. Only wind farm investors received permits for the installation of turbines with a total capacity of 18 thousand MW, but so far have not reached even 20% of this level.

The August energy crisis ended in a curiosity: Poland bought electricity in ... Ukraine - poor, plundered and at war. Moreover, it was not without rattle in bilateral relations. First, the Ukrainian Minister of Energy rejected the Polish request, and only after intervention at the highest level was this resistance broken.

So far, Polish politicians have managed to patch the energy hole. However, this will not improve the well-being of many Poles, who after the summer heat will be anxiously watching the autumn rain showers, and then the winter frosts and thaws. After each slightly more intense such natural phenomenon in the country, hundreds of thousands of households are left without electricity! “Sorry, such a climate”, - these infinitely brazen words of the minister of infrastructure in the government of Tusk, who also went to work in Brussels, became a catch phrase in Poland.
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  1. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 1 September 2015 05: 38 New
    +25
    it’s bad for everyone ... for some of us everything is damn good.
    1. RBLip
      RBLip 1 September 2015 07: 49 New
      +42
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      it’s bad for everyone ... for some of us everything is damn good

      shit with us ... but be that as it may, August survived without major disasters. and indeed, we’ve survived the 90s, and we’ll survive it all. yes
      1. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe 1 September 2015 09: 19 New
        +19
        Quote: RBLip
        We’ve survived the 90s, and we’ll survive it all.

        IT is of course, only everyone is already sick of not living, but worrying.
        1. sssla
          sssla 1 September 2015 09: 44 New
          +23
          Quote: cherkas.oe
          IT is of course, only everyone is already sick of not living, but worrying.

          Well, share your time when, and a place somewhere on the globe, where they live like a god behind a shirt, and they pick their navel from idleness, because EVERYTHING IS THERE !!! Well, remember what is missing in history))))
          1. vlade99
            vlade99 1 September 2015 10: 29 New
            +7
            Quote: sssla
            Well, share your time when, and a place somewhere on the globe, where they live like God’s shirt

            I will share - the time of the USSR.
            1. RBLip
              RBLip 1 September 2015 11: 00 New
              +3
              Quote: vlade99
              I will share - the time of the USSR.

              VERY DISPUTABLE. maybe under Brezhnev ...
              1. sabakina
                sabakina 1 September 2015 11: 56 New
                +7
                Quote: RBLip
                Quote: vlade99
                I will share - the time of the USSR.

                VERY DISPUTABLE. maybe under Brezhnev ...

                I will say for myself. 1967-1986 RSFSR.
                1. 2sila
                  2sila 1 September 2015 14: 20 New
                  +3
                  Damn, I guess we lived in a different RSFSR ....... We didn’t have anything at all in a closed, defense city. No cheese, no sausages. Someone said about meat in the store, but I did not see him there at all. I remember taffeta cakes and pumpkin juice, but something from meat - no.
            2. Sasha_Sar
              Sasha_Sar 1 September 2015 13: 49 New
              +6
              In the USSR, it was good only with education, youth leisure (sports sections on every corner and free of charge), but otherwise it was good only in the "first-order". "Sausage" trains, sorry "communal" was a "freebie", remember the expression did not buy, but "got it" or "given".
              Censorship was everywhere and on everything, so we only remember the good.
              1. I am a Russian
                I am a Russian 2 September 2015 09: 44 New
                +2
                Quote: Sasha_Sar
                Censorship was everywhere and on everything, so we only remember the good.



                Not everything can be called censorship ... culture, etiquette, do you catch the direction of thought?
            3. Felix
              Felix 1 September 2015 14: 39 New
              +2
              Quote: vlade99
              Quote: sssla
              Well, share your time when, and a place somewhere on the globe, where they live like God’s shirt
              I will share - USSR time

              Yah!!! In those days, picking from idleness, you could only get a term for parasitism, quite real. In order to buy the unfortunate "Lada" you had to work for almost 10 years, and then also stand in line ... No, really. I do not want at this time.
          2. cherkas.oe
            cherkas.oe 1 September 2015 17: 19 New
            +2
            Quote: sssla
            Well, share your time when, and a place somewhere on the globe, where they live like a god behind a shirt, and they pick their navel from idleness, because EVERYTHING IS THERE !!! Well, remember what is missing in history))))

            Well, if not difficult, count; what is the average amount of land for every inhabitant of Russia, minerals - oceans, seas, rivers and lakes, taiga and tundra, steppes and mountains. And think: - "Is this how people should live in a country that has such wealth?"
            1. KaPToC
              KaPToC 1 September 2015 19: 15 New
              0
              Quote: cherkas.oe
              And think: - "Is this how people should live in a country that has such wealth?"

              The main wealth of any state is people, and minerals themselves will not turn into consumer goods.
              So think about which state is richer, Russia - in ninth place.
        2. Kotr
          Kotr 1 September 2015 12: 29 New
          -1
          Who is it all? At least not me!
        3. Kent0001
          Kent0001 1 September 2015 16: 43 New
          +2
          Cool said! We just forgot how to live. Learned to survive all these hardships.
    2. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 1 September 2015 08: 01 New
      +2
      I would also say "Sorry, shit happens"
    3. vladimir_krm
      vladimir_krm 1 September 2015 08: 29 New
      +8
      At least, the Poles in fact bought energy in Russia, in transit through Ukraine, so that it would not be so noticeable.
      1. EGOrkka
        EGOrkka 1 September 2015 08: 56 New
        +1
        vladimir_krm
        At least, the Poles in fact bought energy in Russia, in transit through Ukraine, so that it would not be so noticeable.


        .... and scratch your ear through the anus? The Poles through Belarus pipe with gas !!! what the hell through Ukraine then?
        1. Monster_Fat
          Monster_Fat 1 September 2015 09: 17 New
          +8
          And so it is: Poland buys Russian electricity, which Ukraine resells to it.
          1. aviator1913
            aviator1913 1 September 2015 10: 27 New
            +2
            You should know that since the Soviet times, in western Ukraine, the energy system was sharpened for export to the Warsaw Pact countries, and now for the needs of the EU countries, we have different energy system standards, so 2 energy systems were created for export. One worked for the domestic needs of Ukraine, the second, for exporting electricity to the west.

            Ukraine cannot just transfer this energy inside, therefore they seek to sell energy abroad at a high price, having received currency.
            1. The stranger
              The stranger 1 September 2015 11: 55 New
              +5
              Not for export. It was called the Energy Ring "Mir", connected all CMEA countries, and ensured, in addition to uninterrupted power supply, as well as system stability in the event of a major war. Then the main problem is the sudden disconnection of large consumers, not generators.
            2. plotnikov561956
              plotnikov561956 1 September 2015 13: 10 New
              +2
              It seems that I understand a lot in the energy sector ... but I don’t understand about export currents ...
              This is something new ! What is the difference between export and import currents ... only do not include the frequency here .. it is 50 Hz in Europe
              1. The stranger
                The stranger 1 September 2015 23: 37 New
                +1
                Then it’s better to tell the youngsters what’s the matter. I’m not a power engineer; He himself did not remember the short circuit equations, which is already about high power.
                1. plotnikov561956
                  plotnikov561956 2 September 2015 01: 45 New
                  +1
                  Thank you for your honesty and nice mentality ... accept premium ones for growth, and switching and synchronizing generations is not very interesting .. Good luck!
                  1. The stranger
                    The stranger 2 September 2015 02: 04 New
                    +1
                    Thank you for your kind word, but otherwise wrong :) In my opinion - interesting.
                    I understand that the 20s ... 70s will not return soon, when science was a religion, and that this is not a popular science site. But as far as a place enjoys authority among a certain audience - what's wrong? At least someone will have something, at least fluently.
            3. vladimir_krm
              vladimir_krm 2 September 2015 10: 00 New
              +1
              The standards in the Department of Internal Affairs were the same, and no one redone them. And if the Ukrainian oligarchs own metallurgical plants in Poland, then they always drove energy there. In Europe, 230/400 instead of 220/380, and the same 50 Hz. The difference is not fundamental.
        2. shibi
          shibi 1 September 2015 09: 18 New
          +8
          The Poles through Belarus pipe with gas !!!
          Electricity is not pumped through gas pipes.
        3. Revolver
          Revolver 1 September 2015 09: 19 New
          +7
          Quote: EGOrkka
          The Poles through Belarus pipe with gas !!! what the hell through Ukraine then?
          Yes, it seems like they didn’t even buy gas, but directly electricity, in transit through the ukrosystem. That is, panov bought from dill, and dill, respectively, bought in the Russian Federation, and resold to Poland, and even some broth on this business raped.
        4. dudinets
          dudinets 1 September 2015 11: 26 New
          +4
          Yes, because the gas there is twice totalitarian (Putin and Lukashenko). therefore, let dirty Ukrainians make pure electricity out of desecrated gas.
        5. vladimir_krm
          vladimir_krm 2 September 2015 09: 33 New
          0
          And then a pipe with gas to electricity? Once again: it would be much simpler, cheaper and more reasonable for the Poles to buy electricity in Russia. But ambition is in the way. As a result, Ukraine buys in Russia and resells part of it to Poland.
    4. wolf7
      wolf7 1 September 2015 12: 42 New
      +5
      It remains only to Dude to blow that Moscow clamps electricity, does not buy apples, picks up the price of gas. in general, everything is bad, but, of course, Putin is to blame. belay
    5. Prisoner
      Prisoner 1 September 2015 13: 49 New
      +1
      It’s all bad. But it’s bad for us, it’s normal, but it’s good to get hurt in general! winked
  2. Wolka
    Wolka 1 September 2015 05: 39 New
    +16
    the climate has nothing to do with it, there is only Polish aggressive dullness and laziness ...
  3. evil partisan
    evil partisan 1 September 2015 05: 40 New
    +5
    Bullshit. At the bottom of Lithuania near by. Dalia will help. She has gas wazoo. A Old Man electricity winked .
    1. EGOrkka
      EGOrkka 1 September 2015 08: 58 New
      0
      evil partisan
      At the bottom of Lithuania near by


      .... maybe you look at the map? ... under what side? And in Lithuania, what gas is produced?
      1. evil partisan
        evil partisan 1 September 2015 10: 09 New
        +3
        Quote: EGOrkka
        .... maybe you look at the map? ... under what side? And in Lithuania, what gas is produced?

        What a running case ... what
        We type in the search engine "Lithuanian LNG terminal" and read. hi
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 1 September 2015 11: 13 New
        +5
        Quote: EGOrkka
        .... maybe you look at the map? ... under what side? And in Lithuania, what gas is produced?

        And, so you are not aware of this wonderful Lithuanian breakthrough?
        Lithuanians decided to live a free energy life. And they entered into a contract with LNG supply taxes. The problem is that they signed this contract on the same terms as with Gazprom - “take it or pay it.” And now they are forced to pay for them excess volumes of expensive LNG + pay for terminal rental. They had plans to sell gas to their neighbors, but for some reason, before signing the contract, the Lithuanians did not ask these neighbors - would they buy it? smile
  4. Coboklo
    Coboklo 1 September 2015 05: 47 New
    +7
    They will steal diesel fuel from American bases and heat stoves, as in the days of Saki in Georgia they will warm up. You can process apples for gas, for example.
    Polish industry is already bent, energy consumption in large volumes is not required.
    Will get out, the Uterus of Bosque.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 1 September 2015 06: 42 New
      +5
      Quote: Coboklo
      Will get out, the Uterus of Bosque.

      dog krev !!!
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 1 September 2015 07: 33 New
        +6
        Quiet Vshendze
        deafly vshendze
        co benzo .. benzo .. (something will be)
        A. Mitskevich.
        complete dog krev Andrey Yuryevich laughing
      2. evil partisan
        evil partisan 1 September 2015 10: 40 New
        -2
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        dog krev !!!

        Grandfather broke up.sad It’s time for him to prepare for the earth request and he’s there too ...
  5. Vega
    Vega 1 September 2015 05: 50 New
    +15
    Everything is not very fun, there is little energy, but democracy is overkill.
  6. Don Cesar
    Don Cesar 1 September 2015 06: 02 New
    +9
    put the apples in your ..you, to spite Putin!
  7. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 1 September 2015 06: 24 New
    +4
    Poland bought electricity in ... Ukraine
    The energy that Russia and Ukraine supply in good faith steals from the Crimea yes
  8. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 1 September 2015 06: 32 New
    +12
    First they sold urkaine, then bought from her. Confused psheks!
  9. tracker
    tracker 1 September 2015 06: 33 New
    +12
    all the time, the former countries of the Warsaw Pact try to spoil Russia, using the Soviet legacy as well, they don’t get enough of democracy, and when Russia slightly covered the “crane”, the vaunted European values ​​came out with big economic problems. In short, the time has come for all to pay to fans of the European Union, rightly so
  10. Russia
    Russia 1 September 2015 06: 34 New
    +13
    I’m not evil, but I’m ready to give the Poles a big spoon ... so that they can take full results of the shit democracy, and “independence” from the mind, and my short memory. am
    1. chelovektapok
      chelovektapok 1 September 2015 07: 29 New
      +5
      "ready to give the Poles a big spoon" (c). Leaky spoon such "little brothers" must be given!
      1. 52
        52 1 September 2015 08: 40 New
        +1
        Yes, and the juicer does not hurt, then they will do apple alcohol for generators.
      2. Borets
        Borets 1 September 2015 09: 27 New
        0
        Not that they. Precisely slurped, it is better to have a big and whole.
  11. max2215
    max2215 1 September 2015 06: 35 New
    +1

    In addition, on the one hand, the “climate package” strikes Polish coal-based energy
    Yes, God, with her, with Poland, look at the weather in the last decade, everywhere there are anomalies, where there is drought, where on the contrary it floods, or even hails. In Baikal, where there have never been such droughts this summer, there was practically no rain, on the small sea in some bays, water began to bloom.
    The greenhouse effect, presumably, is not a reversible phenomenon, and if it is reversible, will our great-grandchildren survive to normalize? And then who knows, maybe dinosaurs had a civilization .......
  12. satris
    satris 1 September 2015 06: 35 New
    +1
    Ah, idiots! The only way out is to mothball the Ignalina NPP and take energy from there.
    1. Averias
      Averias 1 September 2015 09: 00 New
      +4
      Quote: satris
      Ah, idiots! The only way out is to mothball the Ignalina NPP and take energy from there.

      The trick is that, according to experts (our first and foremost international, as well as the IAEA commission) re-commissioning of this nuclear power plant with subsequent commissioning is not possible. Only the dismantling of power units and the construction of new ones. And who is interested in giving money for this? Certainly not Europe, they did not stop this nuclear power plant for this.
  13. Denis 60 rus
    Denis 60 rus 1 September 2015 06: 36 New
    +3
    the level of rivers and lakes is also low (about a meter and a half down). In some towns, the wells are dry, deepened.
    1. Simon
      Simon 1 September 2015 08: 42 New
      +3
      But in the Urals and in Primorye everything flooded and the rivers overflowed
      1. vadson
        vadson 1 September 2015 09: 15 New
        +2
        in our Urals I already got confused roofing felts third roofing felts fourth flood of rivers in a year, two weeks ago, water arrived up to a meter per night
  14. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 1 September 2015 06: 41 New
    +4
    “The EU will come out of the crisis around Ukraine even stronger if it rallies around the issue of energy security.”

    I did not understand what I said. From the crisis into which the EU drove itself at the insistent "request" of the United States, it will not come out strong. And they will not do without Russian gas in the coming years, no matter how verbally they show off. You cannot warm the country with words and gas is not taken from the air.
    Poland bought electricity in ... Ukraine

    And this already says a lot. I wonder what will happen in the winter and who will be the first to refuse our gas for the sake of political ambitions?
  15. RU-Officer
    RU-Officer 1 September 2015 06: 45 New
    +2
    Author:
    After each slightly more intense such natural phenomenon in the country, hundreds of thousands of households are left without electricity! “Sorry, such a climate,” these infinitely impudent words of the Minister of Infrastructure in the Tusk government, who also went to work in Brussels, became a catch phrase in Poland.

    Voo-from ... Is life getting better in Europe? wink
    And why am I so “intolerant” in the morning - I ask myself. what Probably the news is sick of ... hi
  16. SAM 5
    SAM 5 1 September 2015 06: 46 New
    +3
    However, even now, the August heat mercilessly showed the real state of Polish energy. The power system began to burst.

    But fingers bend onet much.
  17. chelovektapok
    chelovektapok 1 September 2015 07: 21 New
    +4
    Energy - an expensive thing for construction, maintenance, repair, etc. It requires investments and investments in order to work reliably and safely. Apparently, the resource of constructions and equipment that the USSR gave free to "fraternal Poland" is ending. Conclusion: in order not to be left completely without energy, the “panamas” will have to fork out and are not sickly at their own expense. Tariffs for energy carriers and the energy itself will soar to heaven. With what I congratulate!
    You can advise them to adopt the experience of refugees from Africa and the Middle East. There will soon be more of them in the EU than local ones. They live in camps without light and have come up with a lot of things, like "lighting without wires and sockets." LEDs are connected to potatoes and sour fruits, fireflies are collected in jars, the chlorine-containing liquid in an ordinary bottle is placed on a sunbeam from a hole in the roof, a lot of things to learn from new neighbors. The Middle Ages, then the Middle Ages and there is nothing to sniff fastidiously!
  18. akudr48
    akudr48 1 September 2015 07: 50 New
    +1
    "Poland bought electricity in ... Ukraine - poor, plundered and at war."

    And Russia has supplied e-mail. energy to Ukraine.

    Thus, an energy chain is created from Russia through Ukraine to Poland.

    We save our enemies. But if these enemies are partners, then another thing.

    Business over borders or trade with the enemy.

    Such illegibility is ruining Russia.
  19. Name
    Name 1 September 2015 07: 53 New
    +10
    Let Ivan Krylov forgive me, but slightly modified according to time: Dragonflies
    Summer red sang;
    They didn’t have time to look back,
    As winter rolls in my eyes.
    - and for some reason geys is not in a hurry with the help ... Not in the subject, but indicative.
    1. Poppy
      Poppy 1 September 2015 10: 13 New
      +1
      everything they have through this place
  20. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 1 September 2015 07: 53 New
    0
    The most important and most important thing is in no case to get in touch with the Poles on any issue. It is necessary to completely ignore this dirty country.
    If our unpredictable authorities will decide to help the Psheks - half of the Russian people will not understand the authorities will hate.
    It is unheard of to help those who bite your leg and spit in your face.
    God forbid them from conversations and dialogues with polandia!
  21. koksalek
    koksalek 1 September 2015 08: 02 New
    +1
    You don’t have a stone ax in your hands and you’re plowing your neck with your head proudly lifted up, here is your future
  22. vovanpain
    vovanpain 1 September 2015 08: 08 New
    +10
    Well, son? Did the Poles help you? That’s what N.V. Gogol recalls. Although two of the pair of boots, one kisses the other from the other, he takes the other in his mouth.
  23. Shiva83483
    Shiva83483 1 September 2015 08: 26 New
    +1
    Quote: Andrew Y.
    Quote: Coboklo
    Will get out, the Uterus of Bosque.

    dog krev !!!

    Cholera yiy in the stove .....
  24. EvilLion
    EvilLion 1 September 2015 08: 31 New
    +2
    The winter is coming!
  25. V.ic
    V.ic 1 September 2015 08: 32 New
    +1
    none of the European leaders seriously accepted the Polish Prime Minister’s naive idea of ​​joint purchases of Russian gas for the entire European Union - namely, in his opinion, “European energy solidarity” should also be based on this. Author Alexander Storm

    In the Geyropeysky chicken coop, everyone is for himself! Panam should have learned this a long time ago! What kind of pan is not a freebie? Bummer!
  26. Million
    Million 1 September 2015 08: 33 New
    +2
    Prostitutes do not have to be, then life will get better
  27. rosarioagro
    rosarioagro 1 September 2015 08: 46 New
    +2
    "... Only investors in wind farms received permits to install turbines with a total capacity of 18 thousand MW"

    Something very much they get 18 gigawatts from wind energy :-)
  28. atamankko
    atamankko 1 September 2015 08: 50 New
    +2
    While they ask, and soon they will howl from hopelessness.
  29. sisa29
    sisa29 1 September 2015 09: 27 New
    +1
    But what if the story of Hitler’s golden train is true. The cost is approximately 100 billion US rubles. I think the Poles consider themselves the full owners of this treasure. And for 100 billion you can ... "The cost of building one unit of a nuclear power plant (NPP) can be from $ 2 billion to $ 5 billion" or "Build a coal-fired power station with a capacity of 800 MW, the project cost is estimated at $ 1,5-2 billion ",. So it seems Hitler made a good present after death.
    1. cuzmin.mihail2013
      cuzmin.mihail2013 1 September 2015 10: 02 New
      +1
      But it will only be necessary to agree with the IAEA. And this is not easy!
    2. aleksandr-budarin1
      aleksandr-budarin1 1 September 2015 11: 06 New
      +1
      Here is just one “little problem”: Building one power unit takes several YEARS !!! You can’t buy it in the store as a Benzo generator .... So HAPPINESS is postponed ...
  30. gloomy fox
    gloomy fox 1 September 2015 09: 59 New
    +1
    Well, how proud is Europe living, but how is it in Poland, and how is it ?? who has more light and pan. the floor of Europe lives in Proud Niche. For that Mlyn CEE EUROPE SAME !!!!!! again you will buy gas from Russia and coal, too. your pride will disappear with the first Good frosts !!!!! Merkel, though a reptile, but It made it clear that Russia had to be negotiated and take into account her opinion. Here it is, but Germany is far from a poor country. hi
  31. aleksandr-budarin1
    aleksandr-budarin1 1 September 2015 10: 42 New
    +2
    All the "hurts" created during the "Warsaw Pact Countries" after the Great Patriotic War, with the help of the USSR (to the detriment of itself and the development of the infrastructure of the RSFSR territory itself), I suppose, will soon be used up. And in conditions of rapidly cheaper energy carriers, none of the "solidary European family" want to invest in the half-poor economies of the "new members" (and not very new ones). They would have to maintain and equip their own corner. After the sanctions imposed by the European Union, it turned out that in the past fifteen For years, apart from Gazprom, no one has invested in the so-called energy security ...
    SORROW crying
  32. 1goose3
    1goose3 1 September 2015 11: 16 New
    0
    Quote: wicked partisan
    We type in the search engine "Lithuanian LNG terminal" and read


    So what? If you think that if near your house, behind the fence, the base of the forwarding company and this fact will at least somehow improve your life, then I just feel sorry for you. fool
  33. cap54
    cap54 1 September 2015 11: 17 New
    0
    And it began as an avalanche usually begins - with a small landslide, and look there and not to hold it to Europe and not to keep to the Europeans themselves !!!
  34. vladimirw
    vladimirw 1 September 2015 12: 24 New
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    bad without the help of the "evil empire" of the USSR and help from the Russian Federation? Psheks - this is not a wave of your saber, you need to work
  35. iouris
    iouris 1 September 2015 13: 15 New
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    SIC! In the mid-80s, the CCCP population was accused of burning too much "universal" fuel oil for heating purposes. Thatcher even determined the ceiling of the population in Russia - 16 million (!).
    Now it is clear that in the "hot" countries of the West, a huge amount of energy is spent in order to regulate the microclimate in rooms and in cars. However, for some reason there are no calls (for now) to reduce the "golden billion" to 16 million.
  36. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 1 September 2015 13: 24 New
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    Quote: Volka
    the climate has nothing to do with it, there is only Polish aggressive dullness and laziness ...

    I would add: stupidity with an openly nationalistic connotation. At the same time, it becomes incomprehensible: how the current Polish politicians differ from the Nazi leaders of Germany during the Second World War, the same reluctance to know and learn the lessons of history, the same great-power puffiness with a set of meaningless slogans and appeals, then same cooperation with American capital. Nothing new! what
  37. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 1 September 2015 16: 11 New
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    The climate is changing, it’s really so and a little sad. In the summer, Europics suffer from heat, in winter from cold and during warming from floods! Therefore, the energy consumption for heating / cooling increases. Therefore, the Russian Federation must sell its gas more expensive, otherwise let them build new power plants (the job is not cheap). It is not necessary to tie the cost of gas to the cost of oil, as was done for deliveries to the EU. These are different substances and are used in different ways and, accordingly, different production costs per kWh of energy. it’s more expensive to do it from oil, and oil will not endlessly become cheaper, because its reserves are being depleted faster and its production is becoming more expensive every year.
    So all the machinations of the Yankees in the game on the cost of oil is a temporary and ineffective phenomenon for a long period of time, and to suffer one year and the Yankees economy will also begin to limp on both legs. Their economy is tied to expanding consumption, and this also cannot last long without expanding the markets for their goods in other countries,
    while undermining the economy of other countries, they undermine their exports too, etc. hi Shorter boomerang effect! laughing
  38. African
    African 1 September 2015 16: 39 New
    +1
    Have you tried to get energy from apples? Let your smart scientists create the technology, maybe you can get the Nobel Prize. Free tip: - to speed up fermentation, chew, spit, fermentation, alcohol, burning, energy.
  39. lobik
    lobik 1 September 2015 19: 33 New
    +2
    I am amused about saving 10 years for a Lada and 10 years for a turn. 1983, a sailor on a fisherman for a voyage (4 months) taking into account bonuses (1-10) received 9000 rubles in his hands. They gave the six out of turn, cost a little more than 9000 rubles. at the state price. Did you say there was no meat and cheese in the boutiques? But didn’t you try to go to the bazaar? There were all heaps, and at real market prices. And now why are you buying everything there and don’t be indignant at why there are no deshmansky state stores with goods at bargain prices, albeit with poor supply?
  40. alexandrastafiev
    alexandrastafiev 2 September 2015 12: 18 New
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    In light of the fact that fuel prices at gas stations were raised again yesterday (more than once during the summer), you somehow read articles with little enthusiasm how they live poorly in Europe in general and in Poland in particular. An inner voice suggests that all this noise in the media about Europeans comes with one goal - to distract the Russian population from the mess and arbitrariness that we have with prices and not only with the mediocre economic policy of the current Russian leadership.
  41. demandy1
    demandy1 3 September 2015 17: 15 New
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    Applause, gentlemen, applause of universal stupidity!