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The flagship of the Federation Council "Peter the Great" will be repaired

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The nuclear-powered cruiser “Peter the Great” will be sent for scheduled repairs, reports RIA News message of the representative of the Federation Council Vadim Sergi.




"North heavy nuclear missile cruiser fleet Peter the Great is getting ready for dry docking. The necessary list of works preceding the docking operation was carried out on the ship, ”said Serga.

According to him, the planned repair will be carried out "at 82-th ship repair plant in the village Roslyakovo (Murmansk region), whose workers are completing the preparation of a floating boat to put the ship into it."

Earlier in this float was the aircraft-carrying cruiser "Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Kuznetsov." Its repair is finished 20 August.

Help Agency: "The cruiser" Peter the Great "is the world's largest non-aircraft assault warship with a nuclear power plant, designed to defeat large surface and coastal targets, to provide integrated anti-aircraft and anti-submarine defense of combat ships."

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  1. demo
    demo 31 August 2015 16: 43 New
    +8
    What a whopper!
    And how did everyone manage to stuff it there?
    1. bionik
      bionik 31 August 2015 16: 46 New
      +4
      Well, it’s not for nothing that they called Peter the Great.
      Quote: demo
      What a whopper!
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 31 August 2015 16: 49 New
      +25
      Quote: demo
      What a whopper!
      And how did everyone manage to stuff it there?

      Here's a clickable picture.
      1. severyanin
        severyanin 31 August 2015 21: 21 New
        +9
        And I can show a more interesting photo :))) That we in 2013 in the Arctic brought a caravan)))
        1. Garris199
          Garris199 31 August 2015 21: 57 New
          0
          Two icebreakers at once?
          1. severyanin
            severyanin 31 August 2015 22: 06 New
            +1
            Yes, and behind Peter there’s still a tail of a caravan from the 4’s BDK and other tugboats, killers ... This expedition was covered in the media, google a trip to Fr. Boiler room. After this campaign, three weeks later we left for 7 months in Middle-earth ... And there - Syria, events in the “dead-dead”, then “Krymnash”, we thought we would have to hold on again :))))
      2. severyanin
        severyanin 31 August 2015 23: 37 New
        +1
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        Here's a clickable picture.

        With a bunch of "mistakes" on TTX, but for inexperienced people, it’s alright to have a general idea wink
      3. Linkor9s21
        Linkor9s21 1 September 2015 00: 53 New
        +1
        Yes, it seems to me that he should be the Flagship of our entire Fleet !!!
        1. Nosgoth
          Nosgoth 1 September 2015 09: 12 New
          0
          What is it like? We have a new fleet structure, all in one formed? laughing

          And the upcoming repair and modernization of his 2 "brothers", they no longer roll on the flagships of the fleets?
        2. Nosgoth
          Nosgoth 1 September 2015 09: 12 New
          0
          What is it like? We have a new fleet structure, all in one formed? laughing

          And the upcoming repair and modernization of his 2 "brothers", they no longer roll on the flagships of the fleets?
    3. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 31 August 2015 16: 53 New
      +39
      I had to go around the flagship of the Federation Council, this is a whole city, pride in our fleet penetrated me to the land to tears. I will say more, after going to the Kuznetsov right after Peter, summarizing the effect, sobbing with delight, I got drunk! soldier
      1. gudgeon
        gudgeon 31 August 2015 17: 03 New
        +12
        Quote: Major Yurik
        I had to go around the flagship of the Federation Council, this is a whole city, pride in our fleet penetrated me to the land to tears. I will say more, after going to the Kuznetsov right after Peter, summarizing the effect, sobbing with delight, I got drunk! soldier

        Found here on VO:
        The four atomic giants of the 1144 project - the liberal press likes to “wipe their feet” about them, and the British Secretary of Defense every time flew out on a helicopter to admire the Orlans in the ocean.
        1. marlin1203
          marlin1203 31 August 2015 17: 47 New
          +3
          And how many of the "giants" left alive from 4, were interested in? Here you sob. True, there was news that another 1 “eagle” is going to be rebuilt, but it pleases. But it is painfully long and expensive this event, as if not to tear oneself. And when, by the way, in such articles will the type of ship repair be indicated at least approximately? Repairs are different and radically different from each other in terms, cost and results.
          1. sir.jonn
            sir.jonn 31 August 2015 19: 38 New
            +3
            Quote: marlin1203
            And when, by the way, in such articles will the type of ship repair be indicated at least approximately? Repairs are different and radically different from each other in terms, cost and results.

            Scheduled with docking is written, and this is repair of overboard bottom reinforcement, screw-steering group, hull cleaning, checking the condition of the sides, painting, etc. Typically, such work is not distinguished by something special and carries only the fulfillment of requirements for maintaining the ship in good technical condition.
      2. evil partisan
        evil partisan 31 August 2015 17: 06 New
        +7
        Quote: Major Yurik
        summarizing the effect seen, sobbing with delight, I got drunk!

        Odd somehow what ... sluggish or something sad ... I got drunk 1 time, and 2 flagships yes .
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 31 August 2015 17: 11 New
          +7
          Quote: wicked partisan
          . Drunk 1 time, and 2 flagships

          General disrespect for the fleet. yes
          1. evil partisan
            evil partisan 31 August 2015 17: 15 New
            +22
            Quote: Vladimirets
            General disrespect for the fleet.

            Catch and milk. am
          2. Major Yurik
            Major Yurik 31 August 2015 18: 28 New
            +4
            Quote: Vladimirets
            Quote: wicked partisan
            . Drunk 1 time, and 2 flagships

            General disrespect for the fleet. yes


            Quote: wicked partisan
            Quote: Vladimirets
            General disrespect for the fleet.

            Catch and milk. am


            I agree, even though it’s a matter of the past, but come, I’ll correct it as a sinful thing !!! soldier drinks
            1. evil partisan
              evil partisan 31 August 2015 19: 28 New
              0
              Quote: Major Yurik
              come

              Noticed. yes
      3. soratnik
        soratnik 31 August 2015 20: 39 New
        -7
        If I had visited the aircraft carrier Enterprise, I would probably have drowned.
    4. vodolaz
      vodolaz 31 August 2015 17: 37 New
      0
      Looking at this bandura takes pride directly.
    5. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 31 August 2015 17: 49 New
      +7
      Quote: demo
      What a whopper!

      Battleship looks behind! What is missing is the gun turrets with the "three hundred"!
      And the flag of the Soviet Navy! (Well, he was created in the USSR!)
    6. soratnik
      soratnik 31 August 2015 20: 33 New
      -6
      SO "Peter the Great"
      Length - 251 m;
      Width - 25,5 m;
      Draught - 10,3 m;
      Displacement - 26190 tons;

      Aircraft carrier Enterprise
      Length - 342,3 m;
      Width - 78,4 m;
      Draught - 11,9 m;
      Displacement - 93500 tons;
      1. Penetrator
        Penetrator 31 August 2015 21: 08 New
        +9
        Quote: soratnik
        SO "Peter the Great"
        Length - 251 m;
        Width - 25,5 m;
        Draught - 10,3 m;
        Displacement - 26190 tons;

        Aircraft carrier Enterprise
        Length - 342,3 m;
        Width - 78,4 m;
        Draught - 11,9 m;
        Displacement - 93500 tons;

        And what? Why compare the bull term with the goose neck, and a full-fledged modern battleship (well, not a missile cruiser, in fact) - with a floating airfield? If you like it, then masturbate to your Enterprise, but do not confuse the warm with the soft.
        1. soratnik
          soratnik 1 September 2015 11: 11 New
          +1
          Of course, it should be a shame for you couch generals who drank the local kvass that at one time pido like you ... guided by the same patriotic ideas as you that we are not an aggressive power wrote off the price of iron at our aircraft carriers (though not completed) sold and drank. Now you can even bite your ass, but Russia does not have such ships that would allow us to resolve any issues in any part of the world. This once again confirms that any slimes, fermented patriots are more harmful than enemies who do not allow to lose vigilance and understanding of the strategic capabilities of aircraft carriers. Only now, domestic debts in the Navy have realized the strategic need to have aircraft carriers in service. You can, of course, with bated breath, having drunk mop, look at the only workable SO that besides costs more in repairs than goes. Perhaps this leads to alcoholism.
  2. lelikas
    lelikas 31 August 2015 16: 45 New
    +5
    He would have complete rearmament and new management systems ....
    1. little girl15
      little girl15 31 August 2015 16: 48 New
      +1
      It would be great.
    2. Rader
      Rader 31 August 2015 16: 51 New
      +5
      Modernization will be, but not now. First Nakhimov will be modernized, then it will reach Peter
      Ps I hope Peter will be modernized to the fullest, and not like Nakhimov - anti-crisis (again, c300 instead of redoubts, etc.)
    3. veksha50
      veksha50 31 August 2015 16: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: lelikas
      He would have complete rearmament and new management systems ....



      Hm ... Really SO already managed to become outdated? I understand that science and technology are moving and developing, you won’t have time to follow them, however, you might not rearrange a warship without thoughtful rearmament - maybe it is not necessary ???

      Otherwise - now I’ve stood on the dock - and let them change ... If necessary ...
      1. Rader
        Rader 31 August 2015 17: 00 New
        +6
        Well, it’s correct that Peter's repair is not delayed. And how it is being driven across the seas and oceans is so scary, as long as they did not drive a horse request Well and yes, now electronics 20 years ago is already both morally and physically outdated, problems cannot be solved with one repair, an adequate modernization is needed.
      2. lelikas
        lelikas 31 August 2015 17: 14 New
        +9
        Quote: veksha50
        Hm ... Really SO already managed to become outdated? I understand that science and technology are moving and developing, you won’t have time to follow them, however, you might not rearrange a warship without thoughtful rearmament - maybe it is not necessary ???

        Unfortunately, yes, the project has been almost forty years old - in the current realities - very old. With current technology, its combat effectiveness can be increased three times. Put new missiles, air defense, a new bius, a radar with headlights instead of the whole bunch that is hung on it now ..... The whole world is in ruins :).
        1. Serg 122
          Serg 122 31 August 2015 17: 40 New
          +1
          Quote...
          Unfortunately, yes, the project is almost forty years old - in the current realities - very old

          But "to wallow" may not be weak! There would be five "old men" of the Navy (I mean the same combat-ready) and some who would change diapers much more often ... hi
        2. veksha50
          veksha50 31 August 2015 18: 31 New
          +2
          Quote: lelikas
          Unfortunately, yes, the project has been almost forty years old - in the current realities - very old.



          Still a couple of these ... With a new filling and a new version ...

          It’s a pity, and with money it’s tight, and that’s necessary, and that’s ...
        3. Vadim12
          Vadim12 31 August 2015 19: 53 New
          +1
          These antennas will drown out almost any rocket flying at him. Although he does not look modern with them, his radiation power is terrible, the Aegis are resting.
      3. severyanin
        severyanin 31 August 2015 21: 09 New
        +2
        Quote: veksha50
        Otherwise - now I’ve stood on the dock - and let them change ... If necessary ...

        What kind of you, my friend, is simple - in the dock you can change weapons :)))) I’m directly touched :))) right now, because of my bosom, they’ll pull out everything new and replace it in two seconds!
        In the current realities, it takes YEARS sad
        This is a simple planned docking, well, they will tint the hull below the waterline, change the tread protection, bottom-side reinforcement, clean the screws ... a common thing, once every two and a half years. And all this will last a couple of months, no more.
    4. marlin1203
      marlin1203 31 August 2015 17: 48 New
      0
      And what equivalent can he replace the strike missile system?
      1. SAN31
        SAN31 31 August 2015 20: 40 New
        +2
        The complex will remain untouched - it will be relevant in a hundred years.
  3. veksha50
    veksha50 31 August 2015 16: 49 New
    +2
    The main thing is that it doesn’t have a very long repair time ... Although the repair should be of high quality ...

    PS Oh, we would still have a couple of such people ... we could at least change each other in the Mediterranean ... Yes, and for repairs it would be possible to become planned ...
    1. Rader
      Rader 31 August 2015 17: 07 New
      +1
      x, we would still have a couple of such ... we could at least change each other in the Mediterranean ... Yes, and for repairs it would be possible to become planned ...

      But there were 4 of them, and even more are planned for construction.
      Fate spared only one Peter (it’s even sad to recall Nakhimov: a beautiful warship rotted for many years near the mooring wall and was pulled apart by nuts) sad
      1. veksha50
        veksha50 31 August 2015 18: 33 New
        +1
        Quote: Rader
        But there were 4 of them, and even more are planned for construction.



        Well, you won’t return the past ... But the fact that such ships are necessary is beyond dispute ...

        PS Maybe there is some hope that they will build at least a couple more ...
        1. Rader
          Rader 31 August 2015 20: 04 New
          0
          Alas, there is no hope of building new Eagles recourse But there is a hope that his successors - destroyers "Leader" will embody all the best qualities of their predecessor, getting rid of the shortcomings inherent in ships of past years smile wink
      2. severyanin
        severyanin 31 August 2015 22: 47 New
        +2
        Yes, you’re right ... I’ve found at home, the winter of the 1997 of the year, all three beauties still in Severomorsk - on the left - the Peter the Great onboard 183, has not yet been accepted into the fleet, but has recently come from St. Petersburg, on the right - Admiral Ushakov, aka former Kirov, head cruiser, airborne 090, in the background is Admiral Nakhimov, airborne 080 ... Nakhimov and Ushakov were then slow-moving, a year later they would be dragged to Severodvinsk by eternal "joke ... Let's see how the grandiose" cut "of the dough, called the modernization of" Nakhimov ", ends ... You can minus it, but I'm used to calling things by my own names and, let’s say, a little bit in control of the situation sad
  4. nvn_co
    nvn_co 31 August 2015 16: 52 New
    -1
    "The world's largest non-carrier nuclear attack strike ship "What does non-aircraft bearing mean? But what about 2 Ka-27s? It seems like it can have 2 helicopters of the Ka-27, Ka-27PS, Ka-31, Ka-39 type on it.
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 31 August 2015 16: 59 New
      +3
      It means that he is not an aircraft carrier in a certain sense of the word. And one or two helicopters on a warship will not surprise anyone.

      Ka-39 ?! What kind of beast is this?
      1. nvn_co
        nvn_co 1 September 2015 20: 00 New
        +1
        Regarding the Ka-39, it’s me who got it wrong, I pressed the wrong button, I typed ... I meant the Ka-29.
        But regarding what I asked, and they minded me here laughing so. I think it is wrong to confuse an aircraft-carrying cruiser and a heavy nuclear missile cruiser - two ships that are completely different in purpose and "sense". And to some extent shameful. This is to the author. In this particular case, when writing articles or descriptions of ships, the word - aircraft carrier (non-aircraft carrier) is missed.
        No one needs to be surprised by helicopters ... wink It's just that if at least one side is based on a ship, even an UAV is an aircraft-carrying side! And this word is written in TK, then in TU, and then in other regulatory and guidance documents. hi
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  5. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 31 August 2015 16: 56 New
    +2
    Not on time, of course, but the right thing yet! SEEKING if that ....
    1. Inok10
      Inok10 31 August 2015 17: 07 New
      +7
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Not on time, of course, but the right thing yet! SEEKING if that ....

      ..and, where should we go .. here the Forty Naval on the tail brought .. such a situation .. Nakhimov’s commissioned a year earlier, Peter will now be pranked and will estimate how much he can go through until the next repair .. if at least 3 more years .. Lazarev will be unambiguously modernized .. but I repeat it was Forty, the reliability is 50/50 .. hi
      1. severyanin
        severyanin 31 August 2015 22: 14 New
        -1
        Quote: Inok10
        Nakhimov in operation a year earlier

        No options, your magpie doesn't own the decor
        1. Inok10
          Inok10 31 August 2015 22: 59 New
          +4
          Quote: severyanin
          No options, your magpie doesn't own the decor

          .. well, how to say .. The earth is full of rumors .. wink
          Sevmash will be able to transfer the heavy nuclear missile cruiser Admiral Nakhimov to the Navy in 2018, a year ahead of schedule.
          During a working trip to Severodvinsk, Commander-in-Chief of the Navy, Admiral Viktor Chirkov set the task for Sevmash - to hand over the cruiser a year earlier than planned - in 2018 instead of 2019. Источник: http://flotprom.ru/2015/%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%8822/

          .. and more ..
          The nuclear-powered cruiser of the Kirov class - Admiral Nakhimov, which is being repaired at the plants of OJSC Production Association Sevmash (part of OJSC United Shipbuilding Corporation), will be transferred to the Navy in 2018, a year ahead of schedule . This was told by the director general of the enterprise Mikhail Budnichenko in an interview with the RIA Novosti news agency.
          According to Mr. Budichenko, the construction and repair work on the Admiral Nakhimov cruiser was significantly optimized. “The ship is completing the detection and dismantling of part of the hull structures, the work in the first and second building areas has been completed. The issue of optimizing the timing of electrical work is being considered. The task of the next year is the formation of the basic hull structures, foundations, partitions, loading of the main large-sized equipment, the implementation of electrical work, ”he said. Source: http://voennovosti.ru/2015/07/krejser-admiral-naximov-vyjdet-s-remonta-na-god-ra
          nshe /
          .. somewhere like that .. here .. hi
          1. severyanin
            severyanin 31 August 2015 23: 31 New
            0
            Well, if you call IT magpie, then everything is clear wassat There they’ll bring you such a “tail” laughing you can continue to collect HEARINGS
            And I communicate with the factory workers directly on duty, so I will be more reliable. Everything goes to the point that “Nakhimov” alas, will be like with the neighboring “Ustinov”, they have been waiting for him in the Navy since 2013, and there, before the end of the second, how much needs to be completed ... “Cut the dough” and hack nobody has canceled ship repair sad
            1. Inok10
              Inok10 1 September 2015 00: 04 New
              +3
              Quote: severyanin
              Everything goes to the point that “Nakhimov” alas, will be like with the neighboring “Ustinov”, they are also waiting for him in the Navy since 2013

              .. Mom did not teach that lying is not good? .. laughing .. attentively from 1.43 to 1.49 .. video from 2013 .. hi
              1. severyanin
                severyanin 1 September 2015 00: 24 New
                +2
                Quote: Inok10
                .. Mom did not teach that lying is not good?

                Hmm, you can’t insert your brain ... Do you happen to have psaki not a relative? She also took evidence of the Russian invasion of non-fallout from YouTube wassat
                You see, I’ll tell you a "terrible" secret - I serve on Ustinov in mechanics and I fully own the issue of restoring a ship wassat And with your Urr-ry patriotic videos, you can mislead someone else, less sophisticated. And I will tell you the second "terrible" secret - before the 16 year of FIG, he will go where himself. Well, factory workers do not have time for many reasons, and that’s it!
                You don’t know about the meeting with the Commander-in-Chief, or about the heap of technical problems that exist at the moment, but all the same - just to say a black thread and slip a vidos from the "yellow" press. And if tomorrow the video shows that in a year he will fly to Mars, also lay out as evidence ???
                PS: I, like you, also feel sorry for the state of affairs in the Navy and I want good news, not the Potemkin villages, which were shown to the Commander-in-Chief in July request
                1. Inok10
                  Inok10 1 September 2015 00: 38 New
                  +3
                  ..
                  Quote: severyanin
                  You see, I’ll tell you a “terrible” secret - I serve on Ustinov in mechanics and I fully own the issue of restoring a ship. And you can mislead patriotic videos of someone else who is less sophisticated.

                  .. and the key phrase is here And their Urr-ry patriotic .. eloquently .. laughing .. and the same serviceman in mechanics on Ustinov, as I Prima of the female ballet troupe of the Bolshoi Theater .. a servant of the Navy, writes Warhead No. laughing laughing laughing
                  .. and higher in the story we rise ..
                  Quote: severyanin
                  "Drank the dough" and hack work while repairing ships, no one in our country has yet canceled

                  .. even more eloquent .. I suppose a companion Lesha Navalny? .. the style and form of speech are felt .. laughing
                  Quote: severyanin
                  You nichrome do not know about the meetings with the Commander in Chief, nor about the heap of technical problems that exist at the moment

                  .. only on March 19 they discussed the progress of Ustinov’s modernization, it’s strange that no one from Kamrad complained, and we have geography from Vladivostok to Kaliningrad .. http://topwar.ru/71246-kreyser-marshal-ustinov-osnastili-novoy-rls.html
                  Quote: severyanin
                  and all there too - just to tell a che-thread and slip a vidos from the "yellow" press.

                  ... video press service of JSC "TsS Zvezdochka" 2013 .. "Belolentochny Cossack" you burned yourself .. laughing laughing laughing
                  1. severyanin
                    severyanin 1 September 2015 00: 49 New
                    0
                    Quote: Inok10
                    .. only on March 19 they discussed the progress of Ustinov’s modernization

                    That's just March 19))) well, just right, just six months ago ... You are my discussion wassat
                    Doesn’t it bother you that the video is two years old?
                    You know, the most eloquent thing is that Ustinov is still standing, but according to your press service, he should already plow the sea-okiyans with might and main ... that's just something I don’t feel the salt spray of the sea yet, only the smell of welding and hardworking mats :)))
                    PySy: And your mother didn’t teach you that you don’t have to insult a person unfamiliar to you, ranking him as a white-tape rifle ???
                    1. Inok10
                      Inok10 1 September 2015 00: 56 New
                      +3
                      Quote: severyanin
                      Doesn’t it bother you that the video is two years old?

                      .. ah, these are whose words? ..
                      Quote: severyanin
                      Everything goes to the point that “Nakhimov” alas, will be like with the neighboring “Ustinov”, they are also waiting for him in the Navy since 2013

                      .. when are they waiting? according to your version of 2013? .. the contract deadline was 2014 .. but! ..
                      “At Ustinov, we were faced with the fact that the repair volumes that were really needed as a result of defect significantly exceeded the originally declared. Given the significant increase in the volume of work, we plan to return Ustinov to the fleet in 2015,” the source said agencies.
                      He noted that the bulk of the work is now focused on replacing cables, and when the ship was docked, no such work was expected. However, after a detailed diagnosis, it turned out that most of the cable routes needed to be changed.
                      Source: http: //www.ckp-vmf.ru/blogs/blog1.php/quot-quot-2015
                      .. deadline for Ustinov 2015 .. hi
                      1. severyanin
                        severyanin 1 September 2015 01: 08 New
                        0
                        You misunderstood me, I just meant that both cruisers are firmly established in the "long-term construction", unfortunately, despite the peppy assurances of the industry.
                        And I wrote about 2013 because it was initial the date of putting the cruiser in operation, when the cruiser on 29 on June 2011, on 27 of years that has not seen a single normal repair, is under its own power (all 6 turbines and 6 gas turbine generators in the ranks!) came to the factory !!! So what? The 2015th is ending, the 11 lard of state money has been "mastered", and these "bad people" on "Zvezdochka" continue to delay the release dates and ask for more dough !!! am
                        Everything about the repair volumes in your quote is basically true, only they can’t even handle the replacement of cables normally, new cables are laid on top of the old ones, diplomas am I can speak for a long time on this subject, evil is not enough ...
                      2. Zomanus
                        Zomanus 1 September 2015 03: 56 New
                        0
                        Well, can you at least hint what has already been done? Is there a complete fault detection?
                      3. severyanin
                        severyanin 1 September 2015 08: 13 New
                        0
                        In fact, a lot has been done of course, but still it’s clearly not enough to leave the factory this year. The troubleshooting has long been over; there are problems, how now to collect everything that had been thoughtlessly “cut” before when the equipment was unloaded. It’s a cruiser from the 404 country, they turned off any cooperation, there aren’t many blueprints, the factory workers have to “touch” to collect ... And many builders are young, from “effective managers”, so they sometimes do this belay There are also problems with pulling cables, new ones do not fit into the old seats, you have to cut new holes for them ... yes, a bunch of everything else
            2. Cat man null
              Cat man null 1 September 2015 00: 48 New
              +1
              Judging by your registration data, you are not the first day on the site.

              And while doing this, you mostly read, not talk. My compliments hi

              Total: You - a pilus, Inok10 - to a monk this - minus .. well, what else can I?
              1. severyanin
                severyanin 1 September 2015 00: 52 New
                0
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                My compliments

                Thank you))) I try to refrain from commenting on topics that I don’t quite understand, but here, as they say, touched a living ...
              2. Inok10
                Inok10 1 September 2015 00: 59 New
                +3
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                Total: You - a pilus, Inok10 - to a monk this - minus .. well, what else can I?

                .. Roman Batkovich, my respect! .. but first you need to study the issue before taking on the buttons .. the deadline for Ustinov’s never to be in 2013 as the “service mechanic” from Ustinov claims .. hi .. originally 2014, shifted to 2015 .. hi
                1. severyanin
                  severyanin 1 September 2015 01: 17 New
                  0
                  Quote: Inok10
                  the deadline for the delivery of Ustinov was never 2013 year

                  :))) Are you back for the old? And where are your favorite links ??? No? I repeat again - the cruiser originally came to the factory on VTG !!! (restoration of technical readiness) with the extension of the life of the ship for 3 years, then only 3 lard was allocated money, and EVERYTHING !!! This is not a full-fledged repair, it’s so called “prank”! but when they started to defect, then yes, it turned out that wherever you throw it was all bad, and the repair volumes increased!
                  Quote: Inok10
                  originally 2014, moved to 2015 ..

                  Remember me when your so beloved media will be "shifted to 2016"
                  1. Inok10
                    Inok10 1 September 2015 01: 38 New
                    +3
                    Quote: severyanin
                    :))) Are you back for the old? And where are your favorite links ??? No? I repeat once again - the cruiser originally came to the plant at VTG !!!

                    .. once again I poke my nose like a kitten in his g .. Your words ?! .. you have to answer for the words ..
                    Quote: severyanin
                    Everything goes to the point that “Nakhimov” alas, will be like with the neighboring “Ustinov”, they are also waiting for him in the Navy since 2013,
                    .. prove ahead .. http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/epz/main/public/home.html to help .. only under the state contract the deadline was originally 2014 year and only because of the unforeseen amount of work after troubleshooting it was shifted to 2015 year ..
                  2. severyanin
                    severyanin 1 September 2015 01: 49 New
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                    Well, what are you posting non-existing links? Maybe enough to fool your head already? I didn’t see the state contract, not my level, but at the time I made up the remodendy to the plant according to its nomenclature (movement division)! And on the mechanical side, the cruiser was supposed to be ready in the 2013 year! And in 2014 (in June, I remember) the final delivery to the fleet from the plant was supposed to be!
                    PySy: along the way, you yourself, with your comments, have been completely smeared with where you are trying to poke me
                2. severyanin
                  severyanin 1 September 2015 01: 40 New
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                  I re-read your comments, amused the "passage" about warhead № laughing
                  I will repeat my post below: Better to be silent and sound silly than to say - and dispel all doubts wassat
                  Read the Ship Charter, chapter 1 "Fundamentals of Ship Organization" and do not write nonsense!
                  In the fleet, so you know, you are our Prima ballerina - after the warhead, the number symbol (No.) is never put, just warhead-1, warhead-2, warhead-5, etc. By the way, how are spaceships still plowing open spaces in your Bolshoi Theater? laughing laughing laughing
                3. Inok10
                  Inok10 1 September 2015 01: 49 New
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                  Quote: severyanin
                  I re-read your comments, amused the "passage" about warhead №

                  .., write another warhead number, you’ll peel off the number symbol .. you’ll recognize Google .. laughing .. could have prepared in advance, otherwise the shame is continuous .. laughing .. "mechanic with Ustinov" .. laughing
                4. severyanin
                  severyanin 1 September 2015 01: 59 New
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                  Oh, comedian damn :)))
                  Googling is more about you. But essentially can you answer something? what's with the reference, huh? laughing You can’t stop puffing, normal people on the forum already understood, as they say, "hu hu.
                  And in general, when the arguments end, the transition to personality begins. so as not to litter the air, the article is still about "Peter the Great", I propose to chat in PM. If anything, here is the link to my VKontakte account: https://vk.com/ustinoid055 You are invited to a debate, if you wish
                5. Inok10
                  Inok10 1 September 2015 02: 51 New
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                  .. and so express ..
                  Quote: severyanin
                  Everything goes to the point that “Nakhimov” alas, will be like with the neighboring “Ustinov”, they are also waiting for him in the Navy since 2013

                  .. this was the beginning .. to the press release of the press service of ZAO TsS Zvezdochka where the deadline for the delivery of the ship is 2015 .. the answer is received ..
                  Quote: severyanin
                  You don’t know about the meeting with the Commander-in-Chief, or about the heap of technical problems that exist at the moment, but all the same - just to say a black thread and slip a vidos from the "yellow" press. And if tomorrow the video shows that in a year he will fly to Mars, also lay out as evidence ???

                  .. I recall the date of delivery of the ship in 2014, postponed to 2015 due to the additional scope of work not previously taken into account by the conditions of the state contract .. read further quote ..
                  Quote: severyanin
                  Doesn’t it bother you that the video is two years old?
                  You know, the most eloquent thing is that Ustinov is still standing, but according to your press service, he should already plow the sea-okiyans with might and main ... that's just something I don’t feel the salt spray of the sea yet, only the smell of welding and hardworking mats :)))

                  ... and then very carefully! ..
                  Quote: severyanin
                  You misunderstood me, I just meant that both cruisers are firmly established in the "long-term construction", unfortunately, despite the peppy assurances of the industry.
                  And I wrote about 2013, because it was the initial date of putting the cruiser in operation, when on June 29, 2011, the cruiser, 27 years old who had not seen a single normal repair, itself came under its own power (all 6 turbines and 6 gas turbine generators!) to the factory !!! So what? 2015 ends, 11 "lard" of state money has been "mastered", and these "bad people" on "Zvezdochka" continue to delay the release dates and ask for more dough !!!

                  ..and even more carefully ..
                  Quote: severyanin
                  I repeat once again - the cruiser originally came to the plant at VTG !!! (restoration of technical readiness) with an extension of the ship's service life by 3 years, then only 3 lard was allocated money, and EVERYTHING !!! This is not a full-fledged repair, it’s so called “prank”! but when they started to defect, then yes, it turned out that wherever you throw it was all bad, and the repair volumes increased!

                  .. it's already warmer .. and a little more patience .. and here it is .. and most importantly for what part .. warhead .. who will understand the topic .. and most importantly all the same 2014
                  Quote: severyanin
                  Maybe enough to fool your head already? I did not see the state contract, not my level, and the number of specialists in the factory according to its nomenclature (movement division) was in due time! And on the mechanical side, the cruiser was supposed to be ready in 2013! And in 2014 (in June, I remember) the final delivery to the fleet from the plant was supposed to be!

                  .. but if, as mentioned above, I did not see the state contract from where such arguments about Lard 3 and 11 ?! .. That's the whole story .. laughing
                6. Inok10
                  Inok10 1 September 2015 02: 57 New
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                  Quote: severyanin
                  If anything, here is the link to my VKontakte account: https://vk.com/ustinoid055 You are invited to a debate, if you wish

                  .. no, thank you .. it's like: .. Hello, your bank is calling you, in connection with a technical problem you need to inform us of your PIN card, so that we can identify you .. laughing laughing laughing
                7. severyanin
                  severyanin 1 September 2015 08: 28 New
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                  In short, they froze, everything is clear with you. You can only play in public laughing
              3. severyanin
                severyanin 1 September 2015 08: 27 New
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                Very interesting, you are setting out :))) it only seems to me that you yourself did not see this state contract in your eyes laughing
                And in order to know how much money has been allocated, be sure to read the state contract? By the way, can you still throw off a normal link to a specific state contract according to Ustinov, so that anyone can check?
                Here is your link:
                Quote: Inok10
                http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/epz/main/public/home.html

                It looks impressive, a public procurement website, only this is just the main page of the site, where about the Ustins? or "look for yourself"? but airplanes don’t fly like that, you have to answer for your words too no
                I already said that I communicate directly with builders. And one more small nuance - when reminder notes are compiled before leaving the factory, they are sent to the technical department of the fleet, where they are calculated at various authorities and then one copy is returned to the ship with the prescribed prices for each individual type of work!
  • rumiigo
    rumiigo 31 August 2015 17: 11 New
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    Let it come back soon! fellow
  • sv68
    sv68 31 August 2015 16: 57 New
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    scheduled repair, is it a type of medium without modernization of weapons? Type 2 for transport?
  • BOB044
    BOB044 31 August 2015 16: 59 New
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    In one word, beautiful. good
  • silver_roman
    silver_roman 31 August 2015 17: 05 New
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    as I understand it, this is a repair to maintain in service? those. for technical work, rather than improving the range of technical means and armaments? It seems like after Nakhimov they are going to improve it.
    1. Rader
      Rader 31 August 2015 17: 13 New
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      as I understand it

      Yes, you understand everything correctly hi
  • kolkulon
    kolkulon 31 August 2015 17: 07 New
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    Well, straight "Pelorus" Abramovich in size.)
  • EDDI 76
    EDDI 76 31 August 2015 17: 27 New
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    would rather be back in operation, so that the repair does not drag on for years ...
  • twincam
    twincam 31 August 2015 17: 35 New
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    he is healthy!
  • IAlex
    IAlex 31 August 2015 17: 40 New
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    Why did the cruiser need a transom in the stern and a lap port in the transom at the level of the waterline? what
  • starshina pv
    starshina pv 31 August 2015 17: 45 New
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    Quote: Major Yurik
    I had to go around the flagship of the Federation Council, this is a whole city, pride in our fleet penetrated me to the land to tears. I will say more, after going to the Kuznetsov right after Peter, summarizing the effect, sobbing with delight, I got drunk! soldier

    ah, well done, bravo!
  • CRASH
    CRASH 31 August 2015 17: 46 New
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    But Ushakova and Frunze were chopped into meat, a fly in the ointment in a barrel of pride for the fleet. sad
  • roskot
    roskot 31 August 2015 18: 00 New
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    It will undergo repairs and become operational For evil adversaries. And a year will not pass.
  • Cartman
    Cartman 31 August 2015 18: 33 New
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    now completely without eagles, for a long time I wonder?
    1. severyanin
      severyanin 31 August 2015 21: 42 New
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      Quote: Cartman
      now completely without eagles, for a long time I wonder?

      Yes, this is a simple ordinary docking !!!! He’s in Roslyakovo in PD-50 (who do not know, this is a floating dock) gets up for a couple of months in total! The authors of the article specifically to raise public interest wrote about the repair am
  • kostya-petrov
    kostya-petrov 31 August 2015 18: 42 New
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    and he can go from Mediterranean to the Black Sea and to Sevastopol!
    Moor it at the 13 pier of the Black Sea Fleet! Or there, even under diesels, it will not pass?
    1. severyanin
      severyanin 31 August 2015 22: 09 New
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      Uh ... diesels ??? no comments
      Sometimes it’s better to keep silent and seem silly than say - and dispel all doubts wassat
  • chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 31 August 2015 18: 49 New
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    Apparently they’re preparing a camping trip like last winter. If they can annually bring “Peter” and “Kuzyu” to the ocean, then this will be a very serious progress in the combat readiness of the fleet. So “Kulakova” is preparing for a long trip.
    1. severyanin
      severyanin 31 August 2015 22: 11 New
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      Quote: chunga-changa
      If they can annually bring "Peter" and "Kuzyu" into the ocean

      They won’t be able to, believe me ... another year or two without new ships, and the SF generally has nothing more to display somewhere recourse
      1. Zomanus
        Zomanus 1 September 2015 04: 31 New
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        Is everything so sad?
        And if it's not a secret, what is poured first on the ship at the expiration of the term?
        1. severyanin
          severyanin 1 September 2015 08: 36 New
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          It always starts with the pipelines of ship systems ... pipes are the weakest point ... Ustinov, for example, by its state of the power plant, it could now go to sea without repairs, only the pipelines for the most part have all decayed, and these are permanent leaks , fistulas in the pipes, breakthroughs of highways, flooded fuel and other troubles ... this is of course only the tip of the iceberg, but that’s where it all starts. It’s not without reason that, according to the standards of the Soviet Navy, average repairs to warships were made 1 every 10 years with the complete replacement of all pipelines and partly cable routes ... Turbines were also supposed to be replaced every 10 years regardless of operating time (the procedure is called undocking of the main engines), but by today's standards, this is from the category of fiction, there are no alternate turbines
          1. chunga-changa
            chunga-changa 1 September 2015 19: 21 New
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            It is a pity if so, but now the times are not simple, I think they will try to portray at least something.
  • Old26
    Old26 31 August 2015 19: 59 New
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    Quote: Rader
    But there were 4 of them, and even more are planned for construction.

    It was planned 5. Fifth - Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Kuznetsov (before that, Dzerzhinsky and the October Revolution)