UAZ-3163-103 "Patriot" can replace UAZ-3151 in the Russian army

In 2015, the Russian Ministry of Defense decided to abandon the purchase of reliable and unpretentious cars UAZ-3151, which are massively used in the Russian armed forces. And, as noted "Messenger of Mordovia", the UAZ-3163-103 with the appropriate name “Patriot” is considered as a candidate for replacement.

The Ulyanovsk Automobile Plant brought several variants of this vehicle with the 2015х4 wheel formula: an SUV, a vehicle for military traffic police and a pickup UAZ Cargo to the Army 4 forum.

All vehicles were modified according to the requirements of the Russian defense ministry, in particular, they received a reinforced spring suspension.

Comments

[andrei332809]

I liked the car, but only the wheels would be bigger and wider

[serg1970]

And the quality of painting. In fact, a year or two and rust comes out. :(

[nizrum]

And not only painting ...
Everyone with whom they talked, they say: the car is so-so.

[Nick]

Quote: nizrum

And not only painting ...
Everyone with whom they talked, they say: the car is so-so.

Try to buy a new one, real SUV for 700 thousand, and to be better, you are unlikely to find

[self-propelled]

Quote: andrei332809

andrei332809 (8) Today, 09: 22 New
I liked the car, but only the wheels would be bigger and wider

Quote: serg1970

And the quality of painting. In fact, a year or two and rust comes out. :(

Quote: nizrum

And not only painting ...
Everyone with whom they talked, they say: the car is so-so.

UAZ is a well-known "rogue" (as the Yusovites said after "Storm in the Desert" - in those conditions there were two cars that could move without problems - the Czech "Tatra" and the Russian UAZ). "goat" is a classmate (and twin brother) of the British "Defender" and the German "Gelik". but
- to anyone factory UAZ lacks a good diesel engine and inter-wheel differential locks;
- why army cars are so fanciful (impractical in the production and repair, and also for booking) body panels;
MY IDEAL OF THE ARMY AUTO - UAZ-3172

[Selbrat]

This one looks great, but about which the article, too glamorous, is too much for the army.

[Nosgoth]

But I'm wondering, on the "army" version, such a patriotic word as PATRIOT will also be written not in Russian?

[31R-US]

You can throw the winch just in case, patency.

[Selbrat]

Quote: Nick

Try to buy a new, real SUV for 700 thousand, and to be better, you’ll hardly find

For this money, you can take a Japanese from. And he will be better than this NEW.

[esso]

My brother-in-law keeps a car service, a UAZ patriot repaired, says a bucket of bolts. And as my mechanic said, "You need to love a UAZ!" They will either give you a sweatshirt so that it was not cold to lie under it in winter!

[31R-US]

Quote: Esso

Easier to agree to take the Japanese.

Together with all of Japan

[31R-US]

Quote: 31R-US

they will give a quilted jacket as a gift or a sweatshirt

And earlier in the MTO "quilted jackets" were given

[31R-US]

The best car is the new car.

[Nosgoth]

But not every new car is better :-)

[I love Motherland]

All Japanese women from the secondary market for 700 thousand are many times better than Russian auto trash. Although in fairness I must say that the concept of the Russian car, in particular the Niva and the same UAZ is outstanding, but the implementation ...

[Nosgoth]

Yes, our just stupid ... also terrible.

It is necessary, like the same Chinese, to buy a license for the production of some kind of Japanese woman of "shaggy years" (engine, frame, gearbox) to make her own body (preferably according to Japanese specifications for materials and coatings) and name it in her own way. For example, take the same Toyota Land Cruiser in the 80 body. But there will be a car with a machine gun (4 steps, simple, without any electronics), with a plug-in front-wheel drive, spring suspension of front and rear wheels, on continuous axles, 3 locks, 4,2 liter diesel engine with and without a turbine, etc. etc.) and this is a 1989 car. Which is still popular today.

Everything will be better than what we now have (at least if there is parity in cross-country ability, then there will be a huge supply of quality and durability). And the localization of production and the license will allow building these cars regardless of the global situation (the same import substitution, as this will essentially be ours, our production, and therefore repair with spare parts). But there will be more reliability.

ps just do not know how to normally do cars.

[Dr. Hub]

At 80 cruiser full time. Front axle does not turn off

[Corsair]

Quote: nizrum

And not only painting ...
Everyone with whom they talked, they say: the car is so-so.

judging by the reviews - the car begins to crumble two days after the purchase and the gasoline engine is full $ ONE.

[kostella85]

Judging by experience - a normal machine. 409 motor (which is gasoline) -powerful and reliable, the motor itself is a well-known modified 406, with a different timing and fuel. Of the mustache - weak rollers of the drive belt, it is decided by installing reinforced (price from 250 per piece). 514 diesel - the same 409 with a different timing and diesel fuel (in addition, other gear ratios in the bridges). Of the minuses - due to increased loads, it is generally less reliable, shaky to a solarium. Diesel Iveco is the most unreliable and expensive in everything.
Handouts Dymos, C Patriots — reliable and convenient (servo), proof: they are put on a rally Gazelle. Hodovka Very simple and reliable, if you temporarily change bushings and bushings - eternal.
The interior is comfortable and warm.
On the army version I would put the leopard axles (gear wide) rear differential with electric lock (as they put on the Gazelles) and hubs on the front axle. Autonomy yet.

[Nosgoth]

It's about army cars. Those. when the car is not its own (when the soldier has service in the background ... or even the 22nd plan) and the soldiers did not drive such cars before (no operational experience). After all, an ordinary conscript, most often, behaves worse with a UAZ than a blonde, the oil does not know when and how to change :-( and he does not need it.

Or do you think that every driver, the same UAZ, auto mechanic?

The car should be easy to maintain and "friendly" (automatic is desirable), and not require so much attention and knowledge of all the little things. After all, we praise the AK for its reliability and simplicity, and we criticize the M-16 and its derivatives for the need for more attention to maintenance, etc. So why is it the other way around with cars?

[Alexey Lesogor]

If the hands are not from the railroad car and there is no gasket between the steering wheel and the seat, the car is good and reliable. Gouging behind the wheel all that you want eats.

[Nosgoth]

Now tell me why an ordinary conscript soldier should love some kind of "official" car, in which he "chopped off and free"?

[tvgpvo]

I’ve been operating it for the fifth year (traveled all over the European part of Russia), there are almost no problems. Yes, the car is not for girls.

[I love Motherland]

Come to us in Eastern Siberia, what is Baikal ...

[tvgpvo]

Thank you, this dream has been haunting for a long time, maybe I’ll get together.

[SPACE59]

If a patriot is not for girls, which I fundamentally disagree with, my cousin has been riding it for 3 years (by the way, the car does not cause problems), then how to understand this girl. she travels behind the wheel of a hunter. But drom.ru has her travel reports.

[tvgpvo]

I will also let a couple know. which are on patricians, but alas, this is rather the exception.

[Nosgoth]

That's it. I also know and see girls managing and elevating Kruzak and turbo Eviks on mechanics, and no worse than men. But this is not an indicator. Just like some males rolled to homosexual, not an indicator of all men.

So the example of COSMOS59 is about nothing.

[Nosgoth]

The eighth year is already my Range (I travel to the Far East), there are almost no problems. Yes, the car is not for girls (the problems are mainly due to the climate - humidity does not act on the contacts / connectors of the electronics in the best way - sometimes infections are oxidized from which the computer swears, but knowledge of the car and surgical intervention "on its own" eliminates the problem at the moment, but there are no complaints about the mechanical part, engine, drive, gearbox - no problem. Never called a tow truck)

Add.
I am completely satisfied and am going to change it to a "fresher" model. So what is the sacred meaning of your post? Should he erase all the stereotypes and real shortcomings of the car in an instant, so that everyone becomes proud of the UAZ? This will never happen. Everyone has their own requirements for a car, and how many people, so many opinions.

On this topic. Everything is simple.
You need to clearly understand why cars.
1) If just for off-road, then less electronics and a more aspirational interior, "evil" rubber (which is "hammered" at speed on the highway) and pressure on cross-country ability with high-torque engines.
2) If for the city and rare off-road trips (without replacing highway rubber with mud), then the cabin's comfort is more important (not only comfortable leather seats with heating, blowing, etc.), better dynamics and ergonomics, while maintaining off-road functions.
3) If for "just movement", then a second-hand Japanese woman is just right (the same T. Karib, for example, a decent 4WD and a station wagon, and they don't bully him)

But for the army, you need an additional requirement - ease of operation (not only less jambs for iron, but also, preferably, a normal machine). And UAZ have problems with this. Here you need to love your car and know it thoroughly, so less often lie under it.
BUT, do you think this is needed by the same conscript soldier who was drafted into the army for a limited period of service? Yes, he does not care, he was convinced himself how they "kill" boxes, ride like deer and wanted to spit on their cars. There are of course exceptions, but most of them are. Far from the repair shop, in the field, the car needs to be exploited, not dealt with.

[goose]

Quote: nizrum

And not only painting ...
Everyone with whom they talked, they say: the car is so-so.

In fact - only painting. Make it and there will be a good car. The suspension is quite difficult to maintain, but it’s a real frame SUV.

[AlNikolaich]

Quote: serg1970

And the quality of painting. In fact, a year or two and rust comes out. :(

For ten years now they have been painting normally ... Import painting complex is worth it.

[vladimirZ]

And the quality of painting. In fact, a year or two and rust comes out. - serg1970

For ten years now they have been painting normally ... Import painting complex stands.- AlNikolaich (3)

Paint, do not paint, even on imported, but all the same, so that the rust does not eat, for good, you need to galvanize the body, before painting.
Or do we still do it on the basis of "before the first battle", cheap and cheerful?

[sagitch]

In Soviet times, ML paint was superior in all respects to imported paint! It just dried well at temperatures above 60 degrees. There were no chips, and rust did not pearl. Although rust is due to areas or even low-quality metal.

[goose]

Quote: AlNikolaich

For ten years now they have been painting normally ... Import painting complex is worth it.

This would be normal for Kalina. There is no normal iron and its processing. Coloring is the same, in theory, should be multi-layered. Actually the car will become 10% more expensive, but respect will appear.

But in any case, the machine allows you to independently increase the corrosion resistance. To do this, zinc rivets need to be adjusted and machined in the right places.

Another additive - it rusts only in large cities such as Moscow, St. Petersburg. Where there is no water and salt, the car does not rust for 30 years. For example, Siberia, Kazakhstan. But there are large engine resource distances that are not quite enough.

[31R-US]

Quote: AlNikolaich

For ten years now they have been painting normally ... Import painting complex is worth it.

Rust mainly climbs due to low-quality metal

[Nick]

Quote: serg1970

And the quality of painting. In fact, a year or two and rust comes out. :(

On older versions, yes. Corrosion resistance is now significantly improved. My friend has been traveling for the fifth year since the summer of 2011, and there are no spiders on the body yet.

[Corsair]

Quote: Nick

On older versions, yes. Corrosion resistance is now significantly improved. My friend has been traveling for the fifth year since the summer of 2011, and there are no spiders on the body yet.

And how many of your friends went over in this car and repaired over the years - he did not tell you? I got stuck with a friend’s engine in the second year, remembering about the main gasket I’ll add - he’s a rare hollow, of course, but he understands cars - he wouldn’t artificially create conditions for this.

[AlNikolaich]

Quote: Corsair

Quote: Nick

On older versions, yes. Corrosion resistance is now significantly improved. My friend has been traveling for the fifth year since the summer of 2011, and there are no spiders on the body yet.

And how many of your friends went over in this car and repaired over the years - he did not tell you? I got stuck with a friend’s engine in the second year, remembering about the main gasket I’ll add - he’s a rare hollow, of course, but he understands cars - he wouldn’t artificially create conditions for this.

Well, of course, he didn’t fill the oil, but he understands it ...

[Corsair]

Quote: AlNikolaich

Well, of course, he didn’t fill the oil, but he understands it ...

I’m certainly a patriot, but the assembly of our cars is poor
it seems that since the 2000s, some sorted off robots and migrant workers have been collecting them according to the principle that it doesn’t spin - hammer it.
And the acquaintance himself works in a car locker - he couldn’t help but pour oil, he shouldn’t overheat the coolant.

[Nosgoth]

Fifth year? Since 2011?

[antikilller55]

Yes, what a year or two, in April they received two patricks, not a car, but a semi-assembled lego. The rust was already present at the attachment point of the spare wheel, the front bumper dangled like a sail in the wind, the gas pump (mileage 200km) switched off on the track and they want to put it in the army ???

[DanSabaka]

and finally:

UAZ-3163-103 with the appropriate name "Patriot".

the car is not called "Patriot" but "Patriot" .... This is how patriotism has traditionally developed in our country .....

[Consul-t]

Do you know, dear, that the cross-country ability of a car depends on the width of the wheels? Why is the patency of the old UAZ better than other all-terrain vehicles? Because the wheels are narrow as standard.
Why is it difficult for Finns to find wide winter tires? They have all winter tires narrow.
For the same reason. The smaller the contact patch, the specific pressure per cm is more stable in snow and ice.

[Nick]

Quote: Consul-t

Do you know, dear, that the cross-country ability of a car depends on the width of the wheels? Why is the patency of the old UAZ better than other all-terrain vehicles? Because the wheels are narrow as standard.
Why is it difficult for Finns to find wide winter tires? They have all winter tires narrow.
For the same reason. The smaller the contact patch, the specific pressure per cm is more stable in snow and ice.

Not everything is so simple, much depends on the density of the soil. On loose sand, wide tires are preferable; on narrow tires, the car will "dig" faster to the bridge. And the increased contact patch gives a gain when braking.

[Vladimir 1964]

Dear Consultant, are you sure that you write?

[self-propelled]

Quote: Consul-t

Do you know, dear, that the cross-country ability of a car depends on the width of the wheels?

Do you know, dear, that narrow wheels work well only on good asphalt and in shallow snow !? on loose soils, in deep snow (virgin snow) and in marshy (swampy and loess) soils, wide rubber works better (pneumatic skating is even better, but this is a separate and sad story). the contact spot of the wheel with the surface is greater, respectively, the pressure per unit area is less. Yes, rolling resistance is greater (but it’s better to drive slowly than just stand). in a word simple physics

[tvgpvo]

There is also the concept of "longitudinal patency", the angle of longitudinal cross. Longitudinal cross-country angle - The maximum angle at which the vehicle can move from the slope to the horizontal part of the overpass without touching anything with the bottom.
Ramp Angle (Roll Angle) - The maximum angle between the tangents to the front and rear wheels and the bottom point of the car.
These angles characterize the steepness of the obstacles that the car can overcome, and so it is higher for old UAZs. (Base length is shorter)

[northern]

Quote: Consul-t

car traffic depends on the width of the wheels

And the car on the blades will be the most passable, yeah. Uma chamber.

[veteran66]

the car is too glamorous for the army, and you are also talking about some "wheels" .... by the way, wheels of a smaller radius create more tractive effort, which is much more useful for an army jeep, given its "dead" engine.

[Nick]

Quote: veteran66

the car is too glamorous for the army, and you are also talking about some "wheels" .... by the way, wheels of a smaller radius create more tractive effort, which is much more useful for an army jeep, given its "dead" engine.

Traction can be increased by changing the main pair in the transmission or by installing on-board gearboxes on the axles, which, incidentally, also increases the geometric cross-country ability, as the clearance increases. A larger diameter wheel gives a higher passability, rolling over obstacles easier.

[self-propelled]

Quote: Nick

Traction can be increased by changing the main pair in the transmission or by installing on-board gearboxes on the axles, which, incidentally, also increases the geometric cross-country ability, as the clearance increases. A larger diameter wheel gives a higher passability, rolling over obstacles easier.

I agree. but as always there is BUT ...
- the golden rule of mechanics - we win in strength, we lose in displacement (distance);
- it is impossible to arbitrarily take and change the gear ratio of the main gear, there is a measure for everything (the more "traction" pair, the higher the load on the gearbox);
- large wheels - also + to the load on the main pair;
By the way, all this is well known to "offroders" (fans of off-road excursions). and the main couples on their "UAZ" are not only more traction, but also thoroughly strengthened

[Nick]

Quote: self-propelled

- the golden rule of mechanics - we win in strength, we lose in displacement (distance);
- it is impossible to arbitrarily take and change the gear ratio of the main gear, there is a measure for everything (the more "traction" pair, the higher the load on the gearbox);
- large wheels - also + to the load on the main pair;

All this is true, but in this case, final drives compensate for all these shortcomings. Reduction on final drives in 15% will allow increasing wheel diameter by 15% without increasing the load on the main pair, without changing the speed and without distorting the speedometer.
I agree with you, you can’t do anything thoughtlessly. Everything should be calculated and balanced.

[Reducer]

"All vehicles underwent refinement according to the requirements of the Russian defense department ..."
It must be assumed that casting on UAZs and ATVs is a mandatory requirement from Moscow Region ?!
So do not be shy, do not stop gentlemen: armored personnel carriers, typhoons and the Urals also order a glamorous little black thread, put some red shoes on

[goose]

Quote: Reduktor

ado believe casting on UAZs and ATVs is a mandatory requirement from the MO ?!

Do you look at the difference between forged wheels and pouring?

[Reducer]

And what about forged wheels is a necessity for army equipment ?!
Russian military equipment has always been distinguished by practicality and self-sufficiency, the simplicity of achieving the goal. Sometimes to the detriment of beauty, convenience. All Moscow Region is folk money, it would not be frail to treat them prudently.

[Sasha 19871987]

3 years ago, how many we suffered with this "Patriot" with a friend, I don’t know which troops will be supplied, but civilians all need tuning and peeling, a damp car, but I'm talking about a publicly available version from a car dealership

[Alex Nick]

The wheel travel is very long, so they are small, they will touch the arch. And wide ones in the snow are not very.

[pomegranate]

UAZ-3163-103 with the appropriate name "Patriot"

I would still write in Russian !!!

[Mareman Vasilich]

Don’t say it surprises me too. For whom do they write?

[Nick]

Quote: pomegranate

UAZ-3163-103 with the appropriate name "Patriot"

I would still write in Russian !!!

Quote: Mareman Vasilich

Don’t say it surprises me too. For whom do they write?

Patriot is a Greek word, and already internationalized. In Russian, the name will sound approximately like the Fatherland or the Compatriot.

[PPD]

It's about writing in Latin. And we are talking about this from the very beginning.

[Slobber]

I would still write in Russian !!!

Patriot is originally not Russian. And they write it this way initially, because it is exported. On the official website, besides the CIS, the Czech Republic and Nicaragua are indicated, but in reality there are a lot of people in Scandinavia, and in Finland in particular, ride UAZs, although Patera is a minority.

[Ah1ll]

Well, what then does Skoda for sale in Russia write in Russian ??

[smershxnumx]

And yet it is not clear - why does the fifth door, like a right-hand drive, open to the right? If you are standing at the curb (curb, etc.) the door is in the way, you have to go around or cover

[Fidget]

Because on the side of the road (which is usually with a slope to the right), the 5th door will not close constantly and strive to hit you on the back when poking around in the trunk. In addition, the possibility of opening this door to meet a car running behind is excluded. From a practical point of view, everything is just fine.

[smershxnumx]

Uh-uh .... Have you heard about door opening limiters ??? Not? So they are !!! Even on "basins" !!! From a practical point of view, opening a door to the curb is a complete absence of a normal !!! Opened the "gate" - and you run into a circular path (if there is no one behind) or opened / closed put / raised ... Well, and passive safety too .. Inadvertently ...

[veteran66]

already started to write on new issues, guessed about patriotism

[Ah1ll]

It always worried me! Well, they say they write Patriot for marketing. It was only ours that Patriot could write in English! Horror))

[Slobber]

This is only ours could Patriot

Of course, only ours, the rest do not write in Latin.

[Bayonet]

Quote: pomegranate

I would still write in Russian !!!

Well, haven't the guys written yet?

[Dezinto]

"As an applicant" ... is being considered .....

When?

As fishing ... yes .... and for the regular army - it has long been necessary to update!

[Siberia 9444]

My friend threw off a photo on skype of what kind of UAZ model I can’t find here is what I need to take for hunting.

[vkl-47]

This is a hunter remade

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: Siberia 9444

My friend threw off a photo on skype of what kind of UAZ model I can’t find here is what I need to take for hunting.

[bmv04636]

This is UAZ scorpion 2 experimental models with independent bridges now make them in the original body

[Siberia 9444]

It's bad that 2 and you already rolled out a lip with another Here I would buy for hunting Thanks for the information in the evening I’ll pick up a friend and let the same lip roll.

[self-propelled]

Quote: Siberia 9444

My friend threw off a photo on skype of what kind of UAZ model I can’t find here is what I need to take for hunting.

so it's "Scorpion". with the "goat" has very little in common - the side panels, but the general view. independent suspension, like Polish Andoria diesel engine there is an option to put. the car itself is wider than the UAZ, the track is wider and there are also different price points (like self-blocks, etc.). excellent car for hunting and fishing, as well as for "storm in a sand pit" but the price is no longer UAZ

[Nikoha.2010]

Quote: DEZINTO

As fishing ... yes .... and for the regular army - it has long been necessary to update!

Nicholas ! So for the regular army? Yes, and with a 2,3-liter diesel engine ZMZ 51432. The cost of such a car starts from 719 990 rubles.

[gelezo47]

The car is good! It’s time to already supply it to the army ...

[Alexey M]

Already seen military Patrick, green with black numbers.

[Million]

I wonder what workmanship they will have? Instead of glands, they will use the packing as in one and a half cars :) :)

[AlNikolaich]

Quote: Million

I wonder what workmanship they will have? Instead of glands, they will use the packing as in one and a half cars :) :)

Well, if that, and Mercedes uses the gasket for now, and the Range Rover, on an 4,4 liter engine ...
And UAZ engines have been running for a long time already, they are without stuffing ... Gasoline and diesel, for workers
volume of 2,5 and 2,9 liters.

[kostella85]

And on which of the current UAZ 402 motor stands, a respected "specialist" in quality and packing? :(

[kostella85]

And on which of the current UAZ 402 motor stands, a respected "specialist" in quality and packing? :(

[31R-US]

This one should be army, only matte

[Nick]

Quote: 31R-US

This one should be army, only matte

Our native UAZ has long been covered with a mat, and layered, even brilliant. But still, we love him for his phenomenal maneuverability and endurance, and factory workers are trying to tighten reliability now.

[sagitch]

Only the injector should not be put on military vehicles. The consumption is the same with a crab finder, but you can leave from anywhere and reliability increases significantly !!!

[SPACE59]

Carburetor repair is easier, almost any driver can service. But at the expense of reliability, I would not be so categorical. The injector, if you do not touch it, does not cause problems for a very long time.

[sagitch]

But it can unpredictably refuse and of course at the most inopportune moment for this.

[VP]

I drove on the injection cars of different companies more than one hundred thousand, never had a problem.
Unlike carburetor with which everything happened.
Explain your point, better with examples from your practice.

[31R-US]

But the carburetor cannot be drowned out from the satellite

[SPACE59]

Of course, I am not an expert in such matters, but such things happen in connection with the impact on the electrical network of the car. In carburetor cars, all this is also present. Then you really need to drive diesels with a mechanical fuel pump or switch to horse traction

[reader1964]

For pot-bellied staff. In the frontal strip, the curved windows glare, the headlights are not covered by a blackout, the windshield does not tilt, the roof is not removable. A welcome target for drones. just take it for fishing.

[Million]

The military machine should be as simple, reliable and cheap as possible.

[VP]

Bike, no?

[31R-US]

For two years 90-92 I didn’t fail on such a pretty decent car, you can certainly put some fun optics, the seats are more comfortable, although the seats seem to be adjustable in the hunters, but at the expense of the engine, that the weak I don’t know I was happy with, I didn’t miss the baits in tow.

[atamankko]

It is necessary to test, and then draw conclusions.

[priapman]

This is a race. The car is heavier, more capricious, in the army they are simply tortured with it. Of course, such a contract is beneficial for the plant, and it is also very profitable to repair endlessly due to the Ministry of Defense. In short, they think not about the quality of the sun, but about how to cut down more dough. Well, well, that's in the spirit of Western capitalism.

[Lemon1972]

Yeah, damn replacement ... And in every part of the warranty workshop ... A month later, a neighbor went to fight with electronics ...

[wasjasibirjac]

considering that 3151 is discontinued, the transition to the Patriot is justified. This vehicle is clearly not a combat vehicle, but a traveling one, therefore it is necessary to have an easy reservation or not to allow it to reach the combat zone, but only in the deep rear.

[Rubber]

Sorry for "Hunter", that is, a familiar UAZ from childhood. Especially with a tent roof.

[bmv04636]

I think such a Patriot for the army would be better

[AlNikolaich]

As for the Patriot, the car is not bad, with a large resource. Problems, like the Hunter kingpin!
In terms of bodywork, the Hunter family is a more "military" car. No unnecessary details, simpler, more
light. It’s time to change the body. The 469 family, drawn by Eduard Molchanov over 40 years ago,
certainly beautiful, but somewhat outdated. Not comfortable with some inconvenience of operation, fuel
tanks on the sides of the machine are not safe. Many rounded surfaces complicate
body repair. Perhaps you should pay attention to the UAZ prototypes of the eighties, they have more
simple body ...
Who cares, the resource UAZbook!

[tvgpvo]

As for the pivots I agree.

[Smoked]

I have no questions about the old UAZ, but this Patriot is only for civilians, patriots.

[sabakina]

Somehow we started talking about cross-country ability.
Somewhere in the sands of Central Asia, men after another glass, decided to find out who is cooler. Buried in the sand on the glass UAZ-469 and GAZ-69. 69 drove out, 469 buried himself even deeper.
Maybe a bike, maybe not. But I think that the army needs cars without bells and whistles, so as not to hang around on the road waiting for the tug, but to fasten the wire and drive on.

[self-propelled]

Quote: sabakina

Somewhere in the sands of Central Asia, men after another glass, decided to find out who is cooler. Buried in the sand on the glass UAZ-469 and GAZ-69. 69 drove out, 469 buried himself even deeper.
Maybe a bike, maybe not. But I think that the army needs cars without bells and whistles, so as not to hang around on the road waiting for a tug, but to fasten the wire and move on.

about a simple and unpretentious trailblazer for the army, I absolutely agree with you! the army needs a simple and understandable car "for any guy" (although not always and not everywhere, but as a mobilization transport 5 +++)
with regards to -69 and -469 it all depends on the "gasket between the steering wheel and the seat." I personally saw when a rear-wheel drive "loaf" on the ground "made" UAZ-469 ...

[PPD]

Everything happens in life. The real case is clay: Hunter sat down, followed by Niva. Merce SUV calmly drove through.
And I don’t need to change to Patriot. Hunter quality add everything. The pickled cucumber is also not a new invention - we will not replace it arguing that something new is needed.

[Vladimir Pozlnyakov]

At low temperatures, the steering rods of all UAZs are rather weak! At minus 54 degrees between Susuman and Ust-Neroy, he almost "left" to the left from the cliff, the steering failed - went to the right! It turned out to be a small cavity on the tie rod bipod! Bipods from "civil" UAZs did not fit the "military"! I had to drive the car into a passing van and return to Magadan!

[sv68]

And for the price, will the difference come out significant or will they create a new, budget version for the army?

[barclay]

Why do army vehicles need such glamorous headlights? For them, it is still necessary to develop a blackout device.

[roskot]

Why do army vehicles need such glamorous headlights?

Not all the same on the armored personnel carrier to go to shops. A technique pleases. The main thing is that it breaks less.

[Mostovik]

The UAZ Patriot is half of the Korean nodes ... They bought it further than the Goat, it will do for the army. The Patriot would be for some glamorous generals, because they should not go to Kruzak.

[VP]

But what, now in the army are uziks for flying?
I do not understand groans.
For off-road and front-line Tiger. There is no special difference for the rear communications. It is as if everyone here is driving solely under enemy fire, and where the KAMAZs do not pass, og, every day on the UAZ alone attacks go except Saturdays and Sundays.

[PPD]

And you do not consider a difference in the price? Why?
If you follow this logic, you need to immediately buy a BMW. And what not to attack. And the building will build roads for the general.

[VP]

Have you been in the army?
What really UAZ general's car?
Oise yes these patriots are traveling commanders. This is taking off the gundezh about "hinirals will ride"
As for the price. And UAZ will not become gold soon after the engine is finally removed from production?
And where are the legends about its awesome reliability ??

[Ze Kot]

Quote: Bridge

UAZ Patriot consists of half of the Korean nodes ..

And Chinese electronics.

In general, this is an unsuccessful model 3160 ... Long and narrow ...

[zoknyay82]

Quote: Nick

Quote: nizrum

And not only painting ...
Everyone with whom they talked, they say: the car is so-so.

Try to buy a new one, real SUV for 700 thousand, and to be better, you are unlikely to find

Before the fall of the ruble, it's easy, it's Mitsibisi L200 or Mazda BT 50, these cars are from the same price niche (they were), but the "patriot" is covered like a bull in all respects. I love our auto industry, but "patriot" is something! Figure box frame instead of channel, as in the "hunter" or 469th? To rot faster? What kind of vague crap diesel with expensive electronic bells and whistles and zero reliability? And gasoline gluttonous - honest 20 liters per hundred, floor for Abramovich? In general, the UAZ should learn from its predecessors, who produced very inexpensive and fairly reliable cars (for their time). Although there is someone who learns, but apparently there is no desire.

[SPACE59]

Before the ruble depreciated, a patriot could have been cheaper. The last time in the cabin was in December 2014. The simplest patriot with an old mechanical razdatkoy cost 550, if memory serves. And the L 200 once cost 700, that's right, though it was a very long time ago. Compare prices in my city-Patriot 609 minimum, L 200 1349 minimum. however, almost two and a half patriots))

[air wolf]

and engine 150 hp and cruise control! Maybe I would buy it.

[Engineer]

Plastic bumpers, cast wheels and the inscription "Patriot" - this will not work for the army.

[samoletil18]

And what is the heavily renamed and slightly revised -469, which can in no way be brought up to modern requirements? I still understand a certain number of "patriots" for limited use. But if any conflict happens, this handsome man will only interfere. And the economic crisis is in the yard, and the new UAZ is not cheaper than its predecessor.

[Para bellum]

Quote: Million

The military machine should be as simple, reliable and cheap as possible.

I agree one hundred percent! All the charm of the old UAZ is in its high maintainability. Any first-year conscript on his knee in an open field will fix it, so that he could reach the park. I agree, the replacement is long overdue, but "Patrick" in my opinion, as already noted, is glamorous too much.

[Gardamir]

Only one amendment. The machine is not called a Patriot, but a Patriot.

[alex80]

Quote: selbrat

This one looks great, but about which the article, too glamorous, is too much for the army.

Especially pleased repeaters turn signals on the mirrors. There’s no way the army can do without them
Moreover, this option affects the cost of the car.

[Leader]

This machine (as in the photo in the article) is unsuitable for the army. "Glamorous miracle".
Some lights are worth it! - shelter.
Such "jeeps" should be as primitive as possible and suitable for repair "on the knee" or "in the field". There should be no plastic on the body kit.
The "Cannoneer" we received at one time departed less than a year, after which it died forever - moreover, it carried only staff rats. All the carriers covered him with their last words.
So it is - junk.

[GUKTU]

it seems to me that plastic bumpers aren’t good on military equipment

[Yurich]

Such is the Patriot, to be honest, this is a future headache for the head of the car service, experience suggests that the simpler the machine is, the better. I can’t understand what the automatic machine for an armored personnel carrier is for, or such plastic awnings, a bunch of electronics on a passenger car, in fact, a car that must leave 80% of its mileage through the woods and off-road. It may be normal in the Arbat military district, but somewhere in the Urals an ordinary UAZ - 3151 is much more preferable.

[31R-US]

So the people and yes, the UAZ got there, why interfere with the mechanism, but no, you need to twist it, and then what happens. I believe that at this stage there are more important problems for the army, where money is needed. Can anyone answer the question? The purpose of the UAZ in the troops. And when the list appears, you might already think you need a Patriot with antler headlights and plastic plumage or a rather old, good UAZ.

[Alexl]

The fact that they are unpretentious - yes. The fact that reliable is doubtful.

[31R-US]

In general, if you really change Hunter, then only for this option
Consider the pros:
1. You can put a sniper on the roof, or the calculation with a machine gun
2. I think the warrant officers of the security battalion, would also not hurt.
3. For staff officers to conduct reconnaissance in battle, not far from the reservoir, accompanied by the fair sex.
And much more.

[Alexey Lesogor]

Quote: selbrat

For this money, you can take a Japanese from. And he will be better than this NEW.

Second-hand let koklah buy.

[Strashila]

The Patriot is not the right machine for the army ... it was originally a civilian machine.
As it was before, from the time of another 69 ... the military machine received civil registration, and not a turnover.
In the 2000s, I saw cars manufactured at the exhibition, if I’m not mistaken, the Arsenal factory in St. Petersburg, on an UAZ chassis for oil workers ... you can’t tell them right away from a foreign car.
The good old UAZ proved its viability ... well, make it a little wider, make it normal for ventilation and heating ... and so on for the little things for comfort ... with its repair suitability ... no more is needed.
Yes, just talk with lovers of auto off-road off-road ... so everything is already invented and tested there ... only apply in life.

[Alex Nick]

Quote: Corsair

Quote: nizrum

And not only painting ...
Everyone with whom they talked, they say: the car is so-so.

judging by the reviews - the car begins to crumble two days after the purchase and the gasoline engine is full $ ONE.

.... You first acquire it, and then judge. There is nothing to pour in.