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UAZ-3163-103 "Patriot" can replace UAZ-3151 in the Russian army

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In 2015, the Russian Ministry of Defense decided to abandon the purchase of reliable and unpretentious cars UAZ-3151, which are massively used in the Russian armed forces. And, as noted "Messenger of Mordovia", the UAZ-3163-103 with the appropriate name “Patriot” is considered as a candidate for replacement.




The Ulyanovsk Automobile Plant brought several variants of this vehicle with the 2015х4 wheel formula: an SUV, a vehicle for military traffic police and a pickup UAZ Cargo to the Army 4 forum.

All vehicles were modified according to the requirements of the Russian defense ministry, in particular, they received a reinforced spring suspension.
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  1. andrei332809
    andrei332809 31 August 2015 09: 22 New
    +15
    I liked the car, but only the wheels would be bigger and wider
    1. serg1970
      serg1970 31 August 2015 09: 27 New
      +17
      And the quality of painting. In fact, a year or two and rust comes out. :(
      1. nizrum
        nizrum 31 August 2015 09: 36 New
        +7
        And not only painting ...
        Everyone with whom they talked, they say: the car is so-so.
        1. Nick
          Nick 31 August 2015 09: 56 New
          +6
          Quote: nizrum
          And not only painting ...
          Everyone with whom they talked, they say: the car is so-so.

          Try to buy a new one, real SUV for 700 thousand, and to be better, you are unlikely to find
          1. self-propelled
            self-propelled 31 August 2015 10: 30 New
            +22
            Quote: andrei332809
            andrei332809 (8) Today, 09: 22 New
            I liked the car, but only the wheels would be bigger and wider

            Quote: serg1970
            And the quality of painting. In fact, a year or two and rust comes out. :(

            Quote: nizrum
            And not only painting ...
            Everyone with whom they talked, they say: the car is so-so.

            UAZ is a well-known "rogue" (as the Yussians said after Desert Storm - in those conditions there were two cars that moved without problems - the Czech Tatra and the Russian UAZ). "goat" - a classmate (and sister) of the British "Defender" and the German "helik". but
            - to anyone factory UAZ lacks a good diesel engine and inter-wheel differential locks;
            - why army cars are so fanciful (impractical in the production and repair, and also for booking) body panels;
            MY IDEAL OF THE ARMY AUTO - UAZ-3172
            1. selbrat
              selbrat 31 August 2015 10: 42 New
              +10
              This one looks great, but about which the article, too glamorous, is too much for the army.
              1. Nosgoth
                Nosgoth 1 September 2015 05: 48 New
                0
                But I’m wondering, on the “army” version, such a patriotic word as PATRIOT will also be written not in Russian? laughing
            2. 31R-US
              31R-US 31 August 2015 15: 20 New
              +1
              You can throw the winch just in case, patency.
          2. selbrat
            selbrat 31 August 2015 10: 41 New
            -8
            Quote: Nick
            Try to buy a new, real SUV for 700 thousand, and to be better, you’ll hardly find

            For this money, you can take a Japanese from. And he will be better than this NEW.
            1. Esso
              Esso 31 August 2015 11: 26 New
              +2
              Shurin has a car service for me, a UAZ patriot was repairing it, he says a bucket of bolts. And as my mechanic said, “You need to love UAZ!” I agree to take a simpler Japanese man. For the army, maybe. For ordinary citizens there is no way! give or sweatshirt that in winter it was not cold to lie under it!
              1. 31R-US
                31R-US 31 August 2015 14: 30 New
                0
                Quote: Esso
                Easier to agree to take the Japanese.

                Together with all of Japan laughing
              2. 31R-US
                31R-US 31 August 2015 14: 37 New
                0
                Quote: 31R-US
                they will give a quilted jacket as a gift or a sweatshirt

                And before in MTO "quilted jackets" issued
            2. 31R-US
              31R-US 31 August 2015 14: 32 New
              +1
              The best car is the new car.
              1. Nosgoth
                Nosgoth 1 September 2015 05: 49 New
                0
                But not every new car is better :-)
          3. I love Motherland
            I love Motherland 31 August 2015 12: 42 New
            0
            All Japanese women from the secondary market for 700 thousand are many times better than Russian auto trash. Although in fairness I must say that the concept of the Russian car, in particular the Niva and the same UAZ is outstanding, but the implementation ...
            1. Nosgoth
              Nosgoth 1 September 2015 06: 13 New
              0
              Yes, our just stupid sad ... also terrible.

              It is necessary, like the Chinese, to buy a license for the production of some kind of Japanese “shaggy years” (engine, frame, gearbox) to make her a body for her (preferably according to Japanese technical specifications for materials and coatings) and name it in her own way. For example, take the same Toyota Land Cruiser in an 80 body. But there will be a car with a machine gun (4 steps, simple, without any electronics), with a front-wheel drive connected, a spring and front axle suspension, spring on continuous axles, 3 locks, a 4,2 liter diesel engine with and without a turbine, etc. etc.) and this is a 1989 car. Which is still popular.

              Everything will be better than what we now have (at least if there is parity in cross-country ability, then there will be a huge supply of quality and durability). And the localization of production and the license will allow building these cars regardless of the global situation (the same import substitution, as this will essentially be ours, our production, and therefore repair with spare parts). But there will be more reliability.

              ps just do not know how to normally do cars.
              1. Dr. Hub
                Dr. Hub 25 June 2017 15: 40 New
                +1
                At 80 cruiser full time. Front axle does not turn off
        2. Corsair
          Corsair 31 August 2015 10: 21 New
          +1
          Quote: nizrum
          And not only painting ...
          Everyone with whom they talked, they say: the car is so-so.

          belay judging by the reviews - the car begins to crumble two days after the purchase and the gasoline engine is full $ ONE.
          1. kostella85
            kostella85 31 August 2015 12: 46 New
            +4
            Judging by experience - a normal machine. 409 motor (which is gasoline) -powerful and reliable, the motor itself is a well-known modified 406, with a different timing and fuel. Of the mustache - weak rollers of the drive belt, it is decided by installing reinforced (price from 250 per piece). 514 diesel - the same 409 with a different timing and diesel fuel (in addition, other gear ratios in the bridges). Of the minuses - due to increased loads, it is generally less reliable, shaky to a solarium. Diesel Iveco is the most unreliable and expensive in everything.
            Handouts Dymos, C Patriots — reliable and convenient (servo), proof: they are put on a rally Gazelle. Hodovka Very simple and reliable, if you temporarily change bushings and bushings - eternal.
            The interior is comfortable and warm.
            On the army version I would put the leopard axles (gear wide) rear differential with electric lock (as they put on the Gazelles) and hubs on the front axle. Autonomy yet.
            1. Nosgoth
              Nosgoth 1 September 2015 06: 28 New
              0
              It's about army cars. Those. when the car is not its own (when the soldier has service in the background ... or even the 22nd plan) and the soldiers did not drive such cars before (no operational experience). After all, an ordinary conscript, most often, behaves worse with a UAZ than a blonde, the oil does not know when and how to change :-( and he does not need it.

              Or do you think that every driver, the same UAZ, auto mechanic?

              A car should be easily maintained and "friendly" (an automatic machine is desirable), and not require so much attention and knowledge of all the little things. After all, we praise the AK for its reliability and simplicity, and scold the M-16 and its derivatives for the need for more attention to service, etc. So why is it all the other way around with a car?
          2. Alexey Lesogor
            Alexey Lesogor 31 August 2015 15: 11 New
            +4
            If the hands are not from the railroad car and there is no gasket between the steering wheel and the seat, the car is good and reliable. Gouging behind the wheel all that you want eats. wink
            1. Nosgoth
              Nosgoth 1 September 2015 06: 33 New
              0
              Now tell me, why does an ordinary soldier conscript should love some "official" car there, on which he "trumpeted and is free"?
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        3. tvgpvo
          tvgpvo 31 August 2015 11: 09 New
          +22
          I’ve been operating it for the fifth year (traveled all over the European part of Russia), there are almost no problems. Yes, the car is not for girls.
          1. I love Motherland
            I love Motherland 31 August 2015 12: 44 New
            0
            Come to us in Eastern Siberia, what is Baikal ...
            1. tvgpvo
              tvgpvo 31 August 2015 20: 07 New
              0
              Thank you, this dream has been haunting for a long time, maybe I’ll get together.
          2. SPACE59
            SPACE59 31 August 2015 13: 40 New
            +1
            If a patriot is not for girls, which I fundamentally disagree with, my cousin has been riding it for 3 years (by the way, the car does not cause problems), then how to understand this girl. she travels behind the wheel of a hunter. But drom.ru has her travel reports.
            1. tvgpvo
              tvgpvo 31 August 2015 20: 09 New
              0
              I will also let a couple know. which are on patricians, but alas, this is rather the exception.
              1. Nosgoth
                Nosgoth 1 September 2015 06: 57 New
                0
                That's it. I also know and see girls managing and elevating Kruzak and turbo Eviks on mechanics, and no worse than men. But this is not an indicator. Just like some males rolled to homosexual, not an indicator of all men.

                So the example of COSMOS59 is about nothing.
          3. Nosgoth
            Nosgoth 1 September 2015 06: 51 New
            0
            The eighth year is already my Range (I travel to the Far East), there are almost no problems. Yes, the car is not for girls (the problems are mainly due to the climate - humidity affects the electronics contacts / connectors not in the best way - sometimes the infections are oxidized, and the computer swears, but knowing the car and surgical intervention "on its own" eliminates the problem at the moment, but there are no complaints about the mechanical part, engine, drive, gearbox - no problem. Never called a tow truck)

            Add.
            I am completely satisfied and am going to change it to a fresher model. So what is the sacred meaning of your post? He must instantly erase all the stereotypes and real flaws of the car, so that everyone is proud of UAZ? This will never happen. Each has its own requirements for cars, and how many people, so many opinions.

            On this topic. Everything is simple.
            You need to clearly understand why cars.
            1) If it’s just for off-road driving, then there is less electronics and a more basketball-like interior, “evil” tires (which “hammer” at speeds along the highway) and pressure on the cross-country with high-torque engines.
            2) If for the city and rare off-road trips (without replacing highway rubber with mud), then the cabin's comfort is more important (not only comfortable leather seats with heating, blowing, etc.), better dynamics and ergonomics, while maintaining off-road functions.
            3) If for "just moving", then a second-hand Japanese woman is just right (the same T. Karib, for example, 4WD is decent and universal, and they don’t lift him badly)

            But for the army, you need an additional requirement - ease of operation (not only less jambs for iron, but also, preferably, a normal machine). And UAZ have problems with this. Here you need to love your car and know it thoroughly, so less often lie under it.
            BUT, do you think this is needed by the same conscript soldier who was drafted into the army for a limited period of service? He didn’t care, he was convinced himself how they “kill” the boxes, ride like deers and wanted to spit on their cars. There are, of course, exceptions, but the bulk are. Away from the repair shop, in the field, you need to operate the car, and not fight it.
        4. goose
          goose 31 August 2015 12: 12 New
          0
          Quote: nizrum
          And not only painting ...
          Everyone with whom they talked, they say: the car is so-so.

          In fact - only painting. Make it and there will be a good car. The suspension is quite difficult to maintain, but it’s a real frame SUV.
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      3. AlNikolaich
        AlNikolaich 31 August 2015 09: 36 New
        +14
        Quote: serg1970
        And the quality of painting. In fact, a year or two and rust comes out. :(

        For ten years now they have been painting normally ... Import painting complex is worth it.
        1. vladimirZ
          vladimirZ 31 August 2015 09: 47 New
          +5
          And the quality of painting. In fact, a year or two and rust comes out. - serg1970

          For ten years now they have been painting normally ... Import painting complex stands.- AlNikolaich (3)

          Paint, do not paint, even on imported, but all the same, so that the rust does not eat, for good, you need to galvanize the body, before painting.
          Or are we still doing the calculation “before the first battle”, cheaply and cheerfully?
        2. sagitch
          sagitch 31 August 2015 09: 50 New
          +2
          In Soviet times, ML paint was superior in all respects to imported paint! It just dried well at temperatures above 60 degrees. There were no chips, and rust did not pearl. Although rust is due to areas or even low-quality metal.
        3. goose
          goose 31 August 2015 12: 14 New
          +2
          Quote: AlNikolaich
          For ten years now they have been painting normally ... Import painting complex is worth it.

          This would be normal for Kalina. There is no normal iron and its processing. Coloring is the same, in theory, should be multi-layered. Actually the car will become 10% more expensive, but respect will appear.

          But in any case, the machine allows you to independently increase the corrosion resistance. To do this, zinc rivets need to be adjusted and machined in the right places.

          Another additive - it rusts only in large cities such as Moscow, St. Petersburg. Where there is no water and salt, the car does not rust for 30 years. For example, Siberia, Kazakhstan. But there are large engine resource distances that are not quite enough.
        4. 31R-US
          31R-US 31 August 2015 14: 27 New
          0
          Quote: AlNikolaich
          For ten years now they have been painting normally ... Import painting complex is worth it.

          Rust mainly climbs due to low-quality metal
      4. Nick
        Nick 31 August 2015 09: 52 New
        +4
        Quote: serg1970
        And the quality of painting. In fact, a year or two and rust comes out. :(

        On older versions, yes. Corrosion resistance is now significantly improved. My friend has been traveling for the fifth year since the summer of 2011, and there are no spiders on the body yet.
        1. Corsair
          Corsair 31 August 2015 10: 25 New
          -2
          Quote: Nick
          On older versions, yes. Corrosion resistance is now significantly improved. My friend has been traveling for the fifth year since the summer of 2011, and there are no spiders on the body yet.

          And how many of your friends went over in this car and repaired over the years - he did not tell you? I got stuck with a friend’s engine in the second year, remembering about the main gasket I’ll add - he’s a rare hollow, of course, but he understands cars - he wouldn’t artificially create conditions for this.
          1. AlNikolaich
            AlNikolaich 31 August 2015 11: 02 New
            +3
            Quote: Corsair
            Quote: Nick
            On older versions, yes. Corrosion resistance is now significantly improved. My friend has been traveling for the fifth year since the summer of 2011, and there are no spiders on the body yet.

            And how many of your friends went over in this car and repaired over the years - he did not tell you? I got stuck with a friend’s engine in the second year, remembering about the main gasket I’ll add - he’s a rare hollow, of course, but he understands cars - he wouldn’t artificially create conditions for this.

            Well, of course, he didn’t fill the oil, but he understands it ... negative
            1. Corsair
              Corsair 31 August 2015 13: 40 New
              +1
              Quote: AlNikolaich
              Well, of course, he didn’t fill the oil, but he understands it ...

              laughing I’m certainly a patriot, but the assembly of our cars is poor
              it seems that since the 2000s, some sorted off robots and migrant workers have been collecting them according to the principle that it doesn’t spin - hammer it.
              And the acquaintance himself works in a car locker - he couldn’t help but pour oil, he shouldn’t overheat the coolant.
        2. Nosgoth
          Nosgoth 1 September 2015 07: 09 New
          0
          Fifth year? Since 2011?
      5. antikilller55
        antikilller55 31 August 2015 17: 36 New
        +1
        Yes, what a year or two, in April they received two patricks, not a car, but a semi-assembled lego. The rust was already present at the attachment point of the spare wheel, the front bumper dangled like a sail in the wind, the gas pump (mileage 200km) switched off on the track and they want to put it in the army ???
      6. DanSabaka
        DanSabaka 31 August 2015 19: 30 New
        +1
        and finally:
        UAZ-3163-103 with the appropriate name "Patriot".

        the car is called not "Patriot" but "Patriot" .... Such a patriotism in our country has traditionally developed .....
    2. Consul-t
      Consul-t 31 August 2015 09: 35 New
      +6
      Do you know, dear, that the cross-country ability of a car depends on the width of the wheels? Why is the patency of the old UAZ better than other all-terrain vehicles? Because the wheels are narrow as standard.
      Why is it difficult for Finns to find wide winter tires? They have all winter tires narrow.
      For the same reason. The smaller the contact patch, the specific pressure per cm is more stable in snow and ice.
      1. Nick
        Nick 31 August 2015 10: 01 New
        +11
        Quote: Consul-t
        Do you know, dear, that the cross-country ability of a car depends on the width of the wheels? Why is the patency of the old UAZ better than other all-terrain vehicles? Because the wheels are narrow as standard.
        Why is it difficult for Finns to find wide winter tires? They have all winter tires narrow.
        For the same reason. The smaller the contact patch, the specific pressure per cm is more stable in snow and ice.

        Not everything is so simple, a lot depends on the density of soils. On loose sand, wide rubber is preferable; on narrow rubber, the car quickly “burrows” to the bridge. Yes, and an increased contact spot will give a gain when braking.
      2. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 31 August 2015 10: 37 New
        +4
        Dear Consultant, are you sure that you write?
      3. self-propelled
        self-propelled 31 August 2015 10: 57 New
        +7
        Quote: Consul-t
        Do you know, dear, that the cross-country ability of a car depends on the width of the wheels?

        Do you know, dear, that narrow wheels work well only on good asphalt and in shallow snow !? on loose soils, in deep snow (virgin snow) and in marshy (swampy and loess) soils, wide rubber works better (pneumatic skating is even better, but this is a separate and sad story). the contact spot of the wheel with the surface is greater, respectively, the pressure per unit area is less. Yes, rolling resistance is greater (but it’s better to drive slowly than just stand). in a word simple physics request
      4. tvgpvo
        tvgpvo 31 August 2015 11: 23 New
        +1
        There is also the concept of "longitudinal patency" the angle of longitudinal patency. Angle of longitudinal patency - The maximum angle at which the car can move from the slope to the horizontal part of the flyover without touching the bottom.
        Ramp Angle (Roll Angle) - The maximum angle between the tangents to the front and rear wheels and the bottom point of the car.
        These angles characterize the steepness of the obstacles that the car can overcome, and so it is higher for old UAZs. (Base length is shorter)
      5. northern
        northern 31 August 2015 12: 30 New
        +2
        Quote: Consul-t
        car traffic depends on the width of the wheels

        And the car on the blades will be the most passable, yeah. Uma chamber.
    3. veteran66
      veteran66 31 August 2015 09: 57 New
      +4
      the car is too glamorous for the army, and you are also talking about some kind of "wheels" .... by the way, wheels of a smaller radius create more traction, which is much more useful for an army jeep, given its "dead" engine.
      1. Nick
        Nick 31 August 2015 11: 50 New
        +2
        Quote: veteran66
        the car is too glamorous for the army, and you are also talking about some kind of "wheels" .... by the way, wheels of a smaller radius create more traction, which is much more useful for an army jeep, given its "dead" engine.

        Traction can be increased by changing the main pair in the transmission or by installing on-board gearboxes on the axles, which, incidentally, also increases the geometric cross-country ability, as the clearance increases. A larger diameter wheel gives a higher passability, rolling over obstacles easier.
        1. self-propelled
          self-propelled 31 August 2015 13: 15 New
          +1
          Quote: Nick
          Traction can be increased by changing the main pair in the transmission or by installing on-board gearboxes on the axles, which, incidentally, also increases the geometric cross-country ability, as the clearance increases. A larger diameter wheel gives a higher passability, rolling over obstacles easier.

          I agree. but as always there is BUT ...
          - the golden rule of mechanics - we win in strength, we lose in displacement (distance);
          - you can not arbitrarily take and change the gear ratio of the main transmission, there is a measure for everything (the more “traction” the pair, the higher the load on the gearbox);
          - large wheels - also + to the load on the main pair;
          By the way, “offroders” (fans of off-road raids) are well aware of this. and the main pairs on their UAZ are not only more traction, but also thoroughly strengthened
          1. Nick
            Nick 31 August 2015 19: 05 New
            0
            Quote: self-propelled
            - the golden rule of mechanics - we win in strength, we lose in displacement (distance);
            - you can not arbitrarily take and change the gear ratio of the main transmission, there is a measure for everything (the more “traction” the pair, the higher the load on the gearbox);
            - large wheels - also + to the load on the main pair;

            All this is true, but in this case, final drives compensate for all these shortcomings. Reduction on final drives in 15% will allow increasing wheel diameter by 15% without increasing the load on the main pair, without changing the speed and without distorting the speedometer.
            I agree with you, you can’t do anything thoughtlessly. Everything should be calculated and balanced.
    4. Reducer
      Reducer 31 August 2015 10: 42 New
      0
      "All vehicles underwent refinement according to the requirements of the Russian defense department ..."
      It must be assumed that casting on UAZs and ATVs is a mandatory requirement from Moscow Region ?!
      So do not be shy, do not stop gentlemen: armored personnel carriers, typhoons and the Urals also order a glamorous little black thread, put some red shoes on laughing
      1. goose
        goose 31 August 2015 12: 21 New
        +2
        Quote: Reduktor
        ado believe casting on UAZs and ATVs is a mandatory requirement from the MO ?!

        Do you look at the difference between forged wheels and pouring?
        1. Reducer
          Reducer 1 September 2015 05: 17 New
          0
          And what about forged wheels is a necessity for army equipment ?!
          Russian military equipment has always been distinguished by practicality and self-sufficiency, the simplicity of achieving the goal. Sometimes to the detriment of beauty, convenience. All Moscow Region is folk money, it would not be frail to treat them prudently.
    5. Sasha 19871987
      Sasha 19871987 31 August 2015 11: 48 New
      +3
      3 years ago, how many others tormented with this “Patriot” I don’t know which troops will be supplied, but civilians all need tuning and peeling, a raw car, but I'm talking about a public version from a car dealership
    6. Alex Nick
      Alex Nick 3 September 2015 12: 52 New
      0
      The wheel travel is very long, so they are small, they will touch the arch. And wide ones in the snow are not very.
  2. pomegranate
    pomegranate 31 August 2015 09: 22 New
    +16
    UAZ-3163-103 with the appropriate name "Patriot"

    I would still write in Russian !!!
    1. Mareman Vasilich
      Mareman Vasilich 31 August 2015 09: 34 New
      +6
      Don’t say it surprises me too. For whom do they write?
      1. Nick
        Nick 31 August 2015 10: 10 New
        +2
        Quote: pomegranate
        UAZ-3163-103 with the appropriate name "Patriot"

        I would still write in Russian !!!

        Quote: Mareman Vasilich
        Don’t say it surprises me too. For whom do they write?

        Patriot is a Greek word, and already internationalized. In Russian, the name will sound approximately like the Fatherland or the Compatriot.
        1. PPD
          PPD 31 August 2015 11: 14 New
          +2
          It's about writing in Latin. And we are talking about this from the very beginning.
    2. Slobber
      Slobber 31 August 2015 09: 49 New
      +3
      I would still write in Russian !!!

      Patriot is originally not Russian. And they write it this way initially, because it is exported. On the official website, besides the CIS, the Czech Republic and Nicaragua are indicated, but in reality there are a lot of people in Scandinavia, and in Finland in particular, ride UAZs, although Patera is a minority.
      1. Ah1ll
        Ah1ll 31 August 2015 10: 13 New
        0
        Well, what then does Skoda for sale in Russia write in Russian ??
    3. smershxnumx
      smershxnumx 31 August 2015 09: 55 New
      0
      And yet it is not clear - why does the fifth door, like a right-hand drive, open to the right? If you are standing at the curb (curb, etc.) the door is in the way, you have to go around or cover
      1. Fidget
        Fidget 31 August 2015 10: 55 New
        +1
        Because on the side of the road (which is usually with a slope to the right), the 5th door will not close constantly and strive to hit you on the back when poking around in the trunk. In addition, the possibility of opening this door to meet a car running behind is excluded. From a practical point of view, everything is just fine.
        1. smershxnumx
          smershxnumx 1 September 2015 18: 53 New
          0
          Ehhh ... And about the door opening limiters you heard a four-thread ??? Not? So they are !!! Even on the "basins" !!! From a practical point of view, opening the door to the side of the road is a complete lack of normal !!! I opened the "gate" - and you run into a circle (this is if there is nobody behind) or opened / closed set / raised ... Well, passive safety too .. Unreasonable ...
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    5. veteran66
      veteran66 31 August 2015 09: 59 New
      +2
      already started to write on new issues, guessed about patriotism
    6. Ah1ll
      Ah1ll 31 August 2015 10: 12 New
      0
      It always worried me! Well, they say they write Patriot for marketing. It was only ours that Patriot could write in English! Horror))
      1. Slobber
        Slobber 31 August 2015 10: 55 New
        +2
        This is only ours could Patriot

        Of course, only ours, the rest do not write in Latin.
    7. Bayonet
      Bayonet 31 August 2015 12: 15 New
      +1
      Quote: pomegranate
      I would still write in Russian !!!

      Well, haven't the guys written yet? smile
  3. Dezinto
    Dezinto 31 August 2015 09: 23 New
    +5
    "As an applicant" ... is considered .....

    When?

    As fishing ... yes .... and for the regular army - it has long been necessary to update!

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    2. Siberia 9444
      Siberia 9444 31 August 2015 09: 40 New
      +2
      My friend threw off a photo on skype of what kind of UAZ model I can’t find here is what I need to take for hunting.
      1. vkl-47
        vkl-47 31 August 2015 09: 48 New
        +1
        This is a hunter remade
        1. Uncle Joe
          Uncle Joe 31 August 2015 10: 01 New
          +2
          Quote: Siberia 9444
          My friend threw off a photo on skype of what kind of UAZ model I can’t find here is what I need to take for hunting.
        2. bmv04636
          bmv04636 31 August 2015 11: 00 New
          +2
          This is UAZ scorpion 2 experimental models with independent bridges now make them in the original body
          1. Siberia 9444
            Siberia 9444 31 August 2015 12: 43 New
            0
            It's bad that 2 and you already rolled out a lip with another lol Here I would buy for hunting good hi Thanks for the information in the evening I’ll pick up a friend and let the same lip roll.
      2. self-propelled
        self-propelled 31 August 2015 12: 55 New
        +1
        Quote: Siberia 9444
        My friend threw off a photo on skype of what kind of UAZ model I can’t find here is what I need to take for hunting.

        so it’s Scorpio’s. with the "goat" has very little in common - the side panels, but the general view. independent suspension, like Polish Andoria diesel there is an option to put. the car itself is wider than the UAZ, the track is wider and there are still different carriages (like self-blocks, etc.). a great car both for hunting and fishing, and for the "sandstorm storm" smile but the price is no longer UAZ
    3. Nikoha.2010
      Nikoha.2010 31 August 2015 10: 32 New
      0
      Quote: DEZINTO
      As fishing ... yes .... and for the regular army - it has long been necessary to update!

      Nicholas hi ! So for the regular army? wink Yes, and with a 2,3-liter diesel engine ZMZ 51432. The cost of such a car starts from 719 990 rubles. recourse
  4. gelezo47
    gelezo47 31 August 2015 09: 23 New
    +2
    The car is good! It’s time to already supply it to the army ... soldier
    1. Alexey M
      Alexey M 31 August 2015 09: 36 New
      +2
      Already seen military Patrick, green with black numbers.
  5. Million
    Million 31 August 2015 09: 25 New
    +2
    I wonder what workmanship they will have? Instead of glands, they will use the packing as in one and a half cars :) :)
    1. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich 31 August 2015 09: 34 New
      +3
      Quote: Million
      I wonder what workmanship they will have? Instead of glands, they will use the packing as in one and a half cars :) :)

      Well, if that, and Mercedes uses the gasket for now, and the Range Rover, on an 4,4 liter engine ...
      And UAZ engines have been running for a long time already, they are without stuffing ... Gasoline and diesel, for workers
      volume of 2,5 and 2,9 liters.
    2. kostella85
      kostella85 31 August 2015 13: 03 New
      +1
      And on which of the current UAZ 402 motor stands, a respected "specialist" in quality and packing? :(
    3. kostella85
      kostella85 31 August 2015 13: 03 New
      0
      And on which of the current UAZ 402 motor stands, a respected "specialist" in quality and packing? :(
  6. 31R-US
    31R-US 31 August 2015 09: 30 New
    +13
    This one should be army, only matte
    1. Nick
      Nick 31 August 2015 10: 16 New
      +2
      Quote: 31R-US
      This one should be army, only matte

      Our native UAZ has long been covered with a mat, and layered, even brilliant. But still, we love him for his phenomenal maneuverability and endurance, and factory workers are trying to tighten reliability now.
  7. sagitch
    sagitch 31 August 2015 09: 32 New
    +6
    Only the injector should not be put on military vehicles. The consumption is the same with a crab finder, but you can leave from anywhere and reliability increases significantly !!!
    1. SPACE59
      SPACE59 31 August 2015 09: 38 New
      +5
      Carburetor repair is easier, almost any driver can service. But at the expense of reliability, I would not be so categorical. The injector, if you do not touch it, does not cause problems for a very long time.
      1. sagitch
        sagitch 31 August 2015 09: 52 New
        0
        But it can unpredictably refuse and of course at the most inopportune moment for this.
    2. VP
      VP 31 August 2015 10: 22 New
      +2
      I drove on the injection cars of different companies more than one hundred thousand, never had a problem.
      Unlike carburetor with which everything happened.
      Explain your point, better with examples from your practice.
      1. 31R-US
        31R-US 31 August 2015 12: 18 New
        +2
        But the carburetor cannot be drowned out from the satellite
        1. SPACE59
          SPACE59 31 August 2015 12: 35 New
          0
          Of course, I am not an expert in such matters, but such things happen in connection with the impact on the electrical network of the car. In carburetor cars, all this is also present. Then you really need to drive diesels with a mechanical fuel pump or switch to horse traction good
  8. reader1964
    reader1964 31 August 2015 09: 38 New
    +13
    For pot-bellied staff. In the frontal strip, the curved windows glare, the headlights are not covered by a blackout, the windshield does not tilt, the roof is not removable. A welcome target for drones. just take it for fishing.
  9. Million
    Million 31 August 2015 09: 40 New
    +5
    The military machine should be as simple, reliable and cheap as possible.
    1. VP
      VP 31 August 2015 11: 14 New
      +3
      Bike, no?
    2. 31R-US
      31R-US 31 August 2015 12: 49 New
      +1
      For two years 90-92 I didn’t fail on such a pretty decent car, you can certainly put some fun optics, the seats are more comfortable, although the seats seem to be adjustable in the hunters, but at the expense of the engine, that the weak I don’t know I was happy with, I didn’t miss the baits in tow.
  10. atamankko
    atamankko 31 August 2015 09: 45 New
    +1
    It is necessary to test, and then draw conclusions.
  11. priapman
    priapman 31 August 2015 09: 48 New
    +9
    This is a race. The car is heavier, more capricious, in the army they are simply tortured with it. Of course, such a contract is beneficial for the plant, and it is also very profitable to repair endlessly due to the Ministry of Defense. In short, they think not about the quality of the sun, but about how to cut down more dough. Well, well, that's in the spirit of Western capitalism.
  12. Limon1972
    Limon1972 31 August 2015 09: 50 New
    +1
    Yeah, damn replacement ... And in every part of the warranty workshop ... A month later, a neighbor went to fight with electronics ...
  13. wasjasibirjac
    wasjasibirjac 31 August 2015 09: 50 New
    0
    considering that 3151 is discontinued, the transition to the Patriot is justified. This vehicle is clearly not a combat vehicle, but a traveling one, therefore it is necessary to have an easy reservation or not to allow it to reach the combat zone, but only in the deep rear.
    1. Gumma
      Gumma 31 August 2015 10: 43 New
      0
      It’s a pity for the Hunter, that is, an UAZ familiar from childhood. Especially with a tented roof.
  14. bmv04636
    bmv04636 31 August 2015 09: 51 New
    0
    I think such a Patriot for the army would be better
  15. AlNikolaich
    AlNikolaich 31 August 2015 09: 51 New
    +1
    As for the Patriot, the car is not bad, with a large resource. Problems, like the Hunter kingpin!
    According to the body, the Hunter family is a more "military" car. No extra details, simpler, more
    light. It’s time to change the body. The 469 family, drawn by Eduard Molchanov over 40 years ago,
    certainly beautiful, but somewhat outdated. Not comfortable with some inconvenience of operation, fuel
    tanks on the sides of the machine are not safe. Many rounded surfaces complicate
    body repair. Perhaps you should pay attention to the UAZ prototypes of the eighties, they have more
    simple body ...
    Who cares, the resource UAZbook!
    1. tvgpvo
      tvgpvo 31 August 2015 20: 24 New
      0
      As for the pivots I agree.
  16. Smoked
    Smoked 31 August 2015 09: 52 New
    +2
    I have no questions about the old UAZ, but this Patriot is only for civilians, patriots.
  17. sabakina
    sabakina 31 August 2015 09: 52 New
    +5
    Somehow we started talking about cross-country ability.
    Somewhere in the sands of Central Asia, men after another glass, decided to find out who is cooler. Buried in the sand on the glass UAZ-469 and GAZ-69. 69 drove out, 469 buried himself even deeper.
    Maybe a bike, maybe not. But I think that the army needs cars without bells and whistles, so as not to hang around on the road waiting for the tug, but to fasten the wire and drive on.
    1. self-propelled
      self-propelled 31 August 2015 10: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: sabakina
      Somewhere in the sands of Central Asia, men after another glass, decided to find out who is cooler. Buried in the sand on the glass UAZ-469 and GAZ-69. 69 drove out, 469 buried himself even deeper.
      Maybe a bike, maybe not. But I think that the army needs cars without bells and whistles, so as not to hang around on the road waiting for a tug, but to fasten the wire and move on.

      As for the simple and unpretentious rogue for the army, I absolutely agree with you! the army needs a simple and understandable machine "for any man" (although not always and not everywhere, but as a mobilization transport 5 +++)
      with regards to -69 and -469 it all depends on the "gasket between the steering wheel and the seat." I personally saw when the rear-wheel drive "loaf" on the ground "did" UAZ-469 ...
    2. PPD
      PPD 31 August 2015 11: 20 New
      +2
      Everything happens in life. The real case is clay: Hunter sat down, followed by Niva. Merce SUV calmly drove through.
      And I don’t need to change to Patriot. Hunter quality add everything. The pickled cucumber is also not a new invention - we will not replace it arguing that something new is needed.
  18. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
    Vladimir Pozlnyakov 31 August 2015 09: 59 New
    0
    At low temperatures, the steering rods of all UAZs are rather weak! At minus 54 degrees between Susuman and Ust-Nero, I almost "left" to the left from the cliff, the steering failed - went to the right! It turned out a small cavity on the bipod steering tie rod! Bipod from the "civilian" UAZ did not come to the "military"! I had to drive a car in a passing van and return to Magadan!
  19. sv68
    sv68 31 August 2015 10: 02 New
    0
    And for the price, will the difference come out significant or will they create a new, budget version for the army?
  20. barclay
    barclay 31 August 2015 10: 15 New
    +3
    Why do army vehicles need such glamorous headlights? For them, it is still necessary to develop a blackout device.
  21. roskot
    roskot 31 August 2015 10: 38 New
    +1
    Why do army vehicles need such glamorous headlights?

    Not all the same on the armored personnel carrier to go to shops. A technique pleases. The main thing is that it breaks less.
  22. Mostovik
    Mostovik 31 August 2015 10: 42 New
    -1
    The UAZ Patriot is half of the Korean nodes ... They bought it further than the Goat, it will do for the army. The Patriot would be for some glamorous generals, because they should not go to Kruzak.
    1. VP
      VP 31 August 2015 11: 22 New
      0
      But what, now in the army are uziks for flying?
      I do not understand groans.
      For off-road and front-line Tiger. There is no special difference for the rear communications. It is as if everyone here is driving solely under enemy fire, and where the KAMAZs do not pass, og, every day on the UAZ alone attacks go except Saturdays and Sundays.
      1. PPD
        PPD 31 August 2015 12: 00 New
        +1
        And you do not consider a difference in the price? Why?
        If you follow this logic, you need to immediately buy a BMW. And what not to attack. And the building will build roads for the general.
        1. VP
          VP 31 August 2015 12: 09 New
          +2
          Have you been in the army?
          What really UAZ general's car?
          Oise, yes, these patriots are traveling for combatants. This is filming Gundezh about "vinil will ride"
          As for the price. And UAZ will not become gold soon after the engine is finally removed from production?
          And where are the legends about its awesome reliability ??
    2. Ze Kot
      Ze Kot 31 August 2015 23: 52 New
      0
      Quote: Bridge
      UAZ Patriot consists of half of the Korean nodes ..


      And Chinese electronics.

      In general, this is an unsuccessful model 3160 ... Long and narrow ...
  23. zoknyay82
    zoknyay82 31 August 2015 10: 53 New
    0
    Quote: Nick
    Quote: nizrum
    And not only painting ...
    Everyone with whom they talked, they say: the car is so-so.

    Try to buy a new one, real SUV for 700 thousand, and to be better, you are unlikely to find

    Before the ruble depreciation, it’s easy, it’s a Mitsibishi L200 or a Mazda BT 50, these cars from the same price niche (were), but the “patriot” is covered like a bull in all respects. I love our car industry, but the "patriot" is something! In FIG box-frame instead of channel, as on the "hunter" or 469th? To rot faster? What kind of slurred shit diesel with expensive electronic bells and whistles and zero reliability? A gasoline gluttonous, honest 20 liters per hundred, for Abramovich? In general, UAZ must be learned from its predecessors, which produced very inexpensive and reasonably reliable cars (for its time). Although there is someone who is learning, yes there is apparently no desire.
    1. SPACE59
      SPACE59 31 August 2015 12: 58 New
      0
      Before the ruble depreciated, a patriot could have been cheaper. The last time in the cabin was in December 2014. The simplest patriot with an old mechanical razdatkoy cost 550, if memory serves. And the L 200 once cost 700, that's right, though it was a very long time ago. Compare prices in my city-Patriot 609 minimum, L 200 1349 minimum. however, almost two and a half patriots))
  24. air wolf
    air wolf 31 August 2015 11: 11 New
    +1
    and engine 150 hp and cruise control! Maybe I would buy it.
  25. Engineer
    Engineer 31 August 2015 11: 25 New
    +3
    Plastic bumpers, alloy wheels and the inscription "Patriot" - this will not work for the army.
  26. samoletil18
    samoletil18 31 August 2015 11: 35 New
    +4
    But what about the strongly renamed and slightly turned -469y in no way to pull up to the modern requirements? A certain number of "patriots" for limited use, I still understand. But if there is any conflict, this handsome man will only interfere. Yes, and the economic crisis in the yard, and the new UAZ is not cheaper than its predecessor.
  27. Para bellum
    Para bellum 31 August 2015 11: 36 New
    +1
    Quote: Million
    The military machine should be as simple, reliable and cheap as possible.

    I agree one hundred percent! All the charm of the old UAZ in its high maintainability. Any first-year conscript on his knee in a clean field will be repaired, so that he would reach the park. I agree, a replacement is long overdue, but “Patrick” in my opinion, as already noticed glamorously over the top. soldier
  28. Gardamir
    Gardamir 31 August 2015 11: 40 New
    +1
    Only one amendment. The machine is not called a Patriot, but a Patriot.
  29. alex80
    alex80 31 August 2015 11: 53 New
    +3
    Quote: selbrat
    This one looks great, but about which the article, too glamorous, is too much for the army.

    Especially pleased repeaters turn signals on the mirrors. There’s no way the army can do without them laughing
    Moreover, this option affects the cost of the car.
  30. Leader
    Leader 31 August 2015 12: 26 New
    +3
    This machine (as in the photo in the article) is unsuitable for the army. "Glamorous miracle."
    Some lights are worth it! - shelter.
    Such "jeeps" should be as primitive as possible and suitable for repair "on the knee" or "in the field." There should be no plastic on the body kit.
    Received at the time, “Gunner” departed for less than a year, after which he died forever - moreover, he carried only staff rats. All the carriers covered him with the last words.
    So it is - junk.
  31. GUKTU
    GUKTU 31 August 2015 12: 33 New
    +2
    it seems to me that plastic bumpers aren’t good on military equipment
  32. Yurich
    Yurich 31 August 2015 12: 49 New
    +3
    Such is the Patriot, to be honest, this is a future headache for the head of the car service, experience suggests that the simpler the machine is, the better. I can’t understand what the automatic machine for an armored personnel carrier is for, or such plastic awnings, a bunch of electronics on a passenger car, in fact, a car that must leave 80% of its mileage through the woods and off-road. It may be normal in the Arbat military district, but somewhere in the Urals an ordinary UAZ - 3151 is much more preferable.
  33. 31R-US
    31R-US 31 August 2015 13: 05 New
    0
    Here are the people and yes UAZ got why the mechanism should interfere with work, so no, you need to twist it, and then what happens. I believe that at this stage there are more important problems for the army, where do you need money. Can anyone answer the question? The purpose of the UAZ in the troops. And when the list appears, you might already think you need a Patriot with antler headlights and plastic plumage or a fairly old, good "UAZ" hi
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  35. Alexl
    Alexl 31 August 2015 13: 47 New
    +1
    The fact that they are unpretentious - yes. The fact that reliable is doubtful.
  36. 31R-US
    31R-US 31 August 2015 15: 02 New
    0
    In general, if you really change Hunter, then only for this option
    Consider the pros:
    1. You can put a sniper on the roof, or the calculation with a machine gun belay
    2. I think the warrant officers of the security battalion, would also not hurt. laughing
    3. For staff officers to conduct reconnaissance in battle, not far from the reservoir, accompanied by the fair sex. fellow
    And much more. drinks
  37. Alexey Lesogor
    Alexey Lesogor 31 August 2015 15: 07 New
    +1
    Quote: selbrat
    For this money, you can take a Japanese from. And he will be better than this NEW.

    Second-hand let koklah buy.
  38. Strashila
    Strashila 31 August 2015 17: 44 New
    +3
    The Patriot is not the right machine for the army ... it was originally a civilian machine.
    As it was before, from the time of another 69 ... the military machine received civil registration, and not a turnover.
    In the 2000s, I saw cars manufactured at the exhibition, if I’m not mistaken, the Arsenal factory in St. Petersburg, on an UAZ chassis for oil workers ... you can’t tell them right away from a foreign car.
    The good old UAZ proved its viability ... well, make it a little wider, make it normal for ventilation and heating ... and so on for the little things for comfort ... with its repair suitability ... no more is needed.
    Yes, just talk with lovers of auto off-road off-road ... so everything is already invented and tested there ... only apply in life.
  39. Alex Nick
    Alex Nick 3 September 2015 13: 00 New
    0
    Quote: Corsair
    Quote: nizrum
    And not only painting ...
    Everyone with whom they talked, they say: the car is so-so.

    belay judging by the reviews - the car begins to crumble two days after the purchase and the gasoline engine is full $ ONE.

    .... You first acquire it, and then judge. There is nothing to pour in.