Ministry of Energy of Ukraine: Kiev can get a discount on Russian gas

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The head of the Ministry of Energy and Coal Industry of Ukraine, Vladimir Demchishin, said in an interview with the 5 Channel that Kiev may demand a discount on gas from Moscow.



"The price at which we are ready to buy should be objective, reasonable and beneficial for us," RIA quotes him. "News".

Ukrainian politician stressed that Ukraine’s purchase of reverse Ukrainian gas gave Moscow “an understanding that we will defend our interests, we are not forced to buy at any price. What is the discount for the fourth quarter - is still unknown, there is a discussion. But I think that such a discount should be, because there is a business case.

In his opinion, the real discount will be about 30-40 dollars per thousand cubic meters, since Ukraine does not pay transit fees to Russian Gazprom.
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  1. +25
    31 August 2015 07: 22
    "The price at which we are ready to buy should be objective, reasonable and beneficial for us," RIA quotes him.


    A crest without a freebie is not a crest. Yaytsenyuh now refers to Russia only in an ultimatum form. It is necessary to treat it. Can give a tie to chew ....
    1. +10
      31 August 2015 07: 24
      Cheaper only for nothing, everything is as always. A Huhu is not hoho?
      1. +21
        31 August 2015 07: 40
        Shaw again such discounts .... am
        1. +5
          31 August 2015 11: 50
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Shaw again such discounts ...

          Horseradish bald, not discounts.
      2. +9
        31 August 2015 07: 40
        Quote: Oleg Chertkov
        Cheaper only for nothing, everything is as always. A Huhu is not hoho?

        Need a discount ?! With Europe on this occasion first!
        You aim there with all 4 hooves, and there the prices are different!
        1. +5
          31 August 2015 09: 12
          yes let them demand, they have the right to demand anything
          our right is not to give a discount
          1. 0
            1 September 2015 00: 22
            Not to give a discount is our "not a right, but a duty."
    2. +8
      31 August 2015 07: 35
      It’s better to tighten the neck tight ... laughing
      1. +15
        31 August 2015 08: 32
        Dear forum participants, there will be a discount, well, our president and prime minister will not be able to leave the "fraternal" people. They cannot. Otherwise, a kirdyk will come to our Crimea, it will not receive gas and electricity. We sell diesel fuel at a reduced price to Ukraine, we help the Ukrainian Armed Forces. And former fighters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard come to us to earn money, the right sector comes to us like to their home. Remember the events in Moscow, when they tried to rip off the St. George's ribbon from the journalist at the rally of our "opposition". I understand your anger, I myself am indignant, but our leaders will give a discount, they will not go anywhere.
        1. +5
          31 August 2015 08: 45
          I don’t believe that there is no database for the entire nationalist gang. It’s necessary to catch this evil right on the border and immediately and immediately to the wall. But our opposition, led by Kasyanov, should be sent to build the enterprises that they destroyed. Moreover, they should be restored at their own expense. They don’t want to let them die of hunger.
          1. +2
            31 August 2015 10: 15
            And send our opposition, led by Kasyanov, to build enterprises that they destroyed. And to restore at their own expense - Amur

            Unfortunately, those who destroyed our enterprises, and in whose ranks were, at one time, Kasyanov, Nemtsov, Kudrin, Koh and other retirees from power, are still in the highest power in Russia, "run the show", and not in any way they are not opposition, they destroy enterprises, the ruling "elite" of Russia.
            And the Kasyanovs - waste material, foam thrown from a liberal boiler.
            This is me to understand the alignment of political forces and the essence of the ongoing political events in Russia.
        2. +1
          31 August 2015 10: 51
          first let 3 lard of debts in Eurobonds be returned, and they may not give a discount, if the electricity is turned off to the Crimea, we won’t supply electricity to Ukraine again, the cables are laid and the diesel generators are already deployed, it will not be easy but the Crimea will survive the winter but dill not sure.
    3. +4
      31 August 2015 07: 38
      the ultimate form is for the mental health of kaklov (not to be confused with the Ukrainians), so that they would see that they jumped and brought to power not a sucker of some kind, but a strong politician.
    4. 0
      31 August 2015 08: 25
      Quote: SS68SS
      It is necessary to treat it.

      Leopard change his spots.
    5. +2
      31 August 2015 08: 28
      nevermind they need a big one, not a discount, they’re blaming us from all the cracks, and also give a discount to freeloaders ...
    6. +4
      31 August 2015 09: 15
      .... The key here: ".... that Kiev can DEMAND a discount on gas from Moscow ...."

      ..... ALREADY DEMAND !!!! ..... Ohamel is absolutely "brotherly people" .... belay
    7. +3
      31 August 2015 09: 35
      To demand is not yet to receive. The freebie should run out. Stop wagging his tail in front of the "aggressor country" and begging for discounts. Let's see the reaction of our "government" ...
      1. +2
        31 August 2015 09: 40
        Maybe he demands it because he knows something? I think our Anglo-Saxons will be sold once again and gas will be given to Ukrainians at the price that they would say from Washington. When the fifth column is strong in power, it is very difficult, almost impossible, to be independent.
    8. +1
      31 August 2015 09: 42
      Quote: SS68SS
      "The price at which we are ready to buy should be objective, reasonable and beneficial for us," RIA quotes him.


      A crest without a freebie is not a crest. Yaytsenyuh now refers to Russia only in an ultimatum form. It is necessary to treat it. Can give a tie to chew ....

      Yes, it is necessary to treat them harshly.
      Quote: SS68SS
      beneficial for us
      This phrase amused me more. It is beneficial for them, and not for Russia. No, we will keep our benefit too.
  2. +3
    31 August 2015 07: 22
    Again, Ukrainians want to "freebie." They sat down firmly on the neck, do not want to get off.
    1. 0
      31 August 2015 07: 26
      Quote: avvg
      Again, Ukrainians want to "freebie."

      You can rest assured that they will receive it.
      1. +6
        31 August 2015 07: 32
        Quote: namer
        Quote: avvg
        Again, Ukrainians want to "freebie."

        You can rest assured that they will receive it.

        Receive. Shekel would not receive discounts from you, and Russia is a generous soul. In addition, the fraternal people, albeit controlled and fooled by your tribesmen, dear namer.
        1. 0
          31 August 2015 07: 40
          Quote: Penetrator
          Besides the fraternal people,

          Not fraternal, but one divided. Our task is to unite again into a single people!

        2. +1
          31 August 2015 07: 50
          Quote: Penetrator

          Receive.

          Quote: Penetrator

          You can rest assured that they will receive it.

          They don’t get it, the Kremlin has a crisis wassat
      2. 0
        31 August 2015 07: 41
        if again they press Crimea (energy) or transit (gas) then they can get ((((
        1. +2
          31 August 2015 07: 44
          Quote: just EXPL
          if again they press Crimea (energy) or transit (gas) then they can get ((((

          They will not press Crimea - the energy bridge will be commissioned in December. And transit .. Gas transit is also a European problem.
          1. 0
            31 August 2015 11: 58
            THIS IS ONLY A EUROPEAN PROBLEM !!!
      3. 0
        31 August 2015 11: 56
        Now they may receive it, but in a couple of years the time will come when it will have to work out EVERYTHING, COMPLETELY, for all the years. And let them pray that it would be political practice. Otherwise ... laughing
      4. 0
        31 August 2015 18: 37
        Quote: namer

        You can rest assured that they will receive it.

        Decisions on Gazprom discounts are made by one person in the Russian Federation. It will be interesting to read the comments of local fighters against the "fascists". True, they have a sacred mantra "he outplayed everyone again."
      5. The comment was deleted.
    2. +2
      31 August 2015 08: 24
      Ukrainians want through the EU to get the keys to gas pumping stations on the border with Europe in Transcarpathia.
  3. +1
    31 August 2015 07: 24
    and he hoped and believed ....
    1. 0
      31 August 2015 07: 31
      Wow - keyboard virtuoso, where did you find it? laughing
      1. +3
        31 August 2015 07: 39
        it is an ordinary solid sign, next to the letter X is located (the most Russian letter).
        1. +1
          31 August 2015 07: 49
          Quote: just explo
          it is an ordinary solid sign, next to the letter X is located (the most Russian letter).

          And why put it?
          1. +1
            31 August 2015 09: 24
            zakos under pre-revolutionary writing.
            All ashipke aftyr brush Ivo aftarskim style.
          2. 0
            31 August 2015 09: 28
            eh darkness i, darkness .. crying
          3. 0
            31 August 2015 09: 55
            Our dialogue shows that modern spelling is as needed as "yat"
  4. +2
    31 August 2015 07: 25
    In the heading "may receive a discount" and in the text "may require a discount".
    Do site editors see no difference in meanings or speculate on readers' interest in the topic?
    1. +2
      31 August 2015 07: 40
      Quote: Polar
      Do site editors see no difference in meanings or speculate on readers' interest in the topic?

      Article from the press, which means "copyright" to violate no way! But the main thing is precisely quoted "price ... so that it would be profitable for us" Schaz! Although if in exchange for the complete liberation of Donbass - well, you can still think.
      1. 0
        31 August 2015 08: 12
        No, the article is not from the press, from the "press" only a photo, but the article itself with information as ancient as a mammoth was sucked out of the finger by some VO editor. This is confirmed by the fact that my comment was the first, and it was pushed deep down by the insulted editor. Apparently dreams of becoming a famous writer
  5. +2
    31 August 2015 07: 26
    Oh yeah! Russia is at war with you! How can you negotiate with the aggressor? Yes, and ask for discounts? But the fact that dill is energetically dependent on Russia, not only for gas, but also for electricity, do not scare them?
    1. +7
      31 August 2015 07: 27
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Oh yeah! Russia is at war with you! How can you negotiate with the aggressor? Yes, and ask for discounts? But the fact that dill is energetically dependent on Russia, not only for gas, but also for electricity, do not scare them?

      Well, the problem is at least mutual, some ask for a discount from the aggressor, others give it to the Nazis.
      1. 0
        31 August 2015 07: 31
        Yes, take off now no one will sit down at the negotiating table, this is all for complacency!
      2. 0
        31 August 2015 07: 40
        the aggressors are forced to give a discount to the fascists, for the fascists are fascists and that would be fierce and build problems for others.
      3. -5
        31 August 2015 07: 44
        Quote: namer
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Oh yeah! Russia is at war with you! How can you negotiate with the aggressor? Yes, and ask for discounts? But the fact that dill is energetically dependent on Russia, not only for gas, but also for electricity, do not scare them?

        Well, the problem is at least mutual, some ask for a discount from the aggressor, others give it to the Nazis.

        The discount is not given to the fascists, but to the common people (though how long will it reach him? Is another question).
        1. +1
          31 August 2015 07: 48
          not how much, but how much.
        2. +1
          31 August 2015 12: 06
          Write nonsense dear! I'm a common people. I am a citizen of this resource-rich country. And at gas stations and on the bills for the LCD, no one does discounts, I think you too. Dreams come true only for those inside Gazprom.
      4. 0
        31 August 2015 12: 01
        How mutual? This is the problem of some over there. I have no problems, I clearly know how to behave with blackmailers, and with the Nazis too. hi
  6. 0
    31 August 2015 07: 26
    The head of the Ministry of Energy and Coal Industry of Ukraine, Vladimir Demchishin, said in an interview with the 5 Channel that Kiev may demand a discount on gas from Moscow.

    A trebovolka not break?
    1. +2
      31 August 2015 09: 40
      Quote: brasist
      A trebovolka not break?

      Still not broken, dill get a discount from the "aggressor" sad
  7. +2
    31 August 2015 07: 28
    Everything will depend on Miller’s position, or rather, on Putin’s decision. The opinion of Demchishin does not mean anything.
  8. +2
    31 August 2015 07: 28
    that Kiev may demand a discount on gas from Moscow

    Well, they already demand, pay attention not asking. I have already written several times that our concessions to Ukraine on energy resources are perceived by them and the West as weakness. As a result of this, then such statements appear that look like orders. I hope that the government will no longer make any concessions. Otherwise, it will be a disgrace to Russia.
    1. 0
      31 August 2015 08: 25
      That's right, we must do so that they beg us, otherwise they will soon begin to order.
  9. +2
    31 August 2015 07: 29
    Fuck reverse gas buy-let Slovaks on Russian gas raise the loot!
    And it’s easier for us-Slovaks immediately go to the barrel, and they will deal with the independent kooky.
  10. +3
    31 August 2015 07: 30
    It’s just interesting if the USSR could buy and demand from Germany discounts on products in 1941, or the Germans in 1943–45 would demand discounts on gasoline and manganese nickel from us.
    And then demand a discount from the aggressor and immediately yell that they are a bastion of democracy, that they are a wall. And the most important thing in all of this is not to understand who is more than morons, we or they. It seems to me that we - they abuse us, scold us, press us with sanctions and we all recognize these freaks, we trade with them, we give discounts.
  11. +2
    31 August 2015 07: 35
    Ministry of Energy of Ukraine: Kiev can get a discount on Russian gas
    So what is this news? They received a discount a priori. Another thing is that she did not suit them. Again, they want to pass off a completely regular development of events as an overthrow?
    Quote: Angry Guerrilla
    Kiev may require
    Well, they are in vain. "A bankrupt cannot demand, a bankrupt can only ask." - S.V. Lavrov.
  12. +2
    31 August 2015 07: 37
    Quote: namer
    You can rest assured that they will receive it.

    I hope that the decision will be made after all the calculations "how beneficial it is for us."
  13. +3
    31 August 2015 07: 38
    Well, if our Ministry of Energy, out of stupidity or for some other reason, again sells gas to Svidomo at discounts, it will be a direct betrayal of not only Russia's economic interests, but direct help to the junta to destroy the Russians in Donbass! Bastrykin to the studio!
  14. +5
    31 August 2015 07: 41
    Is it time to demand from Ukraine all debts with interest? And initiate lawsuits on the return of debts paid by GTU for ships and aircraft. There will be a lot of debts there. Let them give no money to equipment of enterprises, land to any other material values. It is good that they managed to return Crimea in time, otherwise in April 2013 Crimea would become an American state. So do not give them any discounts. And disconnect from gas until it is not calculated.
  15. +4
    31 August 2015 07: 45
    The price at which we are ready to sell should be objective, reasonable and profitable for us! Do not want, do not take ...
  16. 0
    31 August 2015 07: 46
    “The price at which we are ready to buy should be objective, reasonable and beneficial for us,”
    I'm sticking out. But Russia should not accidentally restore the economy of Ukraine. fool
  17. +1
    31 August 2015 07: 51
    You still haven’t returned your debts for the delivered gas! To give this minister a stupid sledgehammer !!
  18. +2
    31 August 2015 07: 51
    The gas discount .... pff ...- garbage .... a couple of months ago they announced that we should give them some billions there to restore the Donbass - which they themselves bombed.

    This is ho.hol style !! - "Give me money! Give me gas! I hate you! But give me money, huh? Give me something to eat! - because you have nothing to shit under the door" .....
  19. +3
    31 August 2015 07: 53
    Quote: SS68SS
    Can give a tie to chew ....

    Better yesterday's socks. laughing
  20. +1
    31 August 2015 07: 54
    The Ukrainian politician emphasized that Ukraine’s purchase of reverse Ukrainian gas gave Moscow “an understanding that we will defend our interests,

    How interesting - Russia offered gas at $ 341.5, and bought on the reverse at $ 362! To whom are they doing worse? They also "demand"! And they will probably stomp their feet! Oh well! Reverse further! They will only talk to you in a sound manner!
  21. +1
    31 August 2015 07: 55
    The Ukrainian politician emphasized that Ukraine’s purchase of reverse Ukrainian gas gave Moscow “an understanding that we will defend our interests, we are not forced to buy at any price

    Again ambition for nothing. The price for the reverse from the EU is not yet known, and whether ambitious politicians from the "square" will be able to pump it into underground storage facilities with a reverse volume ,,, Of course not. All these ambitions resemble a capricious child who, in spite of Mom, does not wear mittens ... recourse
  22. +3
    31 August 2015 08: 00
    Kiev may require a discount on gas from Moscow

    You can not read further.
  23. +1
    31 August 2015 08: 02
    Kakip such discounts! Say goodbye to sell only at market price + extra charge (for not honoring Russia!)
  24. +2
    31 August 2015 08: 17
    Explain why they always require a discount? there is a contract - pay. No, come on, goodbye. Hey, it would be more likely that this pipe would close.
  25. 0
    31 August 2015 08: 19
    Discounts on gas hohlopitekam need to look at European hubs! There they are waiting with open arms. And discounts are already provided. And LNG from the mattress is on the way!
  26. +2
    31 August 2015 08: 29
    There you have it, dill, not a discount on gas.
    1. +3
      31 August 2015 08: 43
      Actually, it's not fucking ... But your message is clear. Will Gazprom understand it?
  27. +1
    31 August 2015 08: 29
    What discount for the fourth quarter is still unknown, there is a discussion.

    Hello everyone hi ! Where is the discussion going? In the Verkhovna Rada, Naftogaz or in the heads of Ukrainian politicians. "Gaprom" has another "problem" outlined. In Egypt, or rather in the Mediterranean Sea, they found a gas field with an area of ​​about 100 sq. Km. It will take years to develop this field, but the Turkish Stream is also being built with a creak. But at the expense of demanding discounts, it's just nonsense, but we can expect everything from Moscow and no one will ask us with you. IMHO!
    1. 0
      31 August 2015 09: 40
      Quote: Nikoha.2010
      "Gaprom" has another "problem" outlined. In Egypt, or rather in the Mediterranean Sea, they found a gas field with an area of ​​about 100 sq. Km.

      For Gazprom, this is not a problem))) Cairo has already stated that when developing this gas field, it will stop importing gas for up to 5 years by switching to its own gas. We do not import gas to them
    2. +1
      31 August 2015 11: 06
      Quote: Nikoha.2010
      "Gaprom" has another "problem" outlined. In Egypt, or rather in the Mediterranean Sea, they found a gas field with an area of ​​about 100 sq. Km.

      Depth - 1,5 km. Yes
      Quote: Nikoha.2010
      It will take years to develop this field.

      Years 20. Well, nothing less than 10. During this time, a lot of things will happen.
  28. -1
    31 August 2015 08: 36
    Whatever we write here, BUT our rulers, due to an increase in domestic tariffs, will give any discount to the Ukrainian fascists! Liberasty spit on the interests of the motherland, they want to be in a geyropu
  29. dk
    +3
    31 August 2015 08: 37
    I would generally close the "tap", let the West ask or jump. And you see, how profitable it is for them.
  30. +2
    31 August 2015 08: 39
    Zadolbite these dill with their ultimatums.
  31. 0
    31 August 2015 08: 53
    [quote = vladimirw] Whatever we write here, BUT our rulers, by raising internal tariffs, will give any discount to the Ukrainian fascists! Liberasts spit on the interests of the motherland, they want to be a geyropu [/. Are you talking about some liberals? Who are in the Kremlin? We have one person who makes such decisions ...
  32. +2
    31 August 2015 08: 56
    Guys, wake up! They will definitely receive this discount, BUT at our expense. I have a receipt for gas since July - 73 rubles with kopecks per cubic meter. Before that it was 67 rubles. per cubic meter It turns out more than 1000 (THOUSANDS!) American tugras per 1000 cubic meters. And you here condemn our type of government for providing discounts to Ukraine. Everything is much sadder. When will they give us a discount? Who will demand from us, as this Demchishin demands from them from ours. Can we invite him to our place, to defend, for example, people's interests? It's a joke, of course, but it hurts to look at the politics of the "native" authorities.
  33. +4
    31 August 2015 09: 05
    “The price at which we are ready to buy should be objective, reasonable and beneficial for us,”
    --------
    Is it better to finally free or even pays Russia that we use its gas?
    ------------
    But I think that such a discount should be, because there is an economic justification.
    ---------------
    Because we want it so much?
    Ukropiteksky insanity !!!! laughing am
  34. +1
    31 August 2015 09: 15
    The Ukrainian politician emphasized that Ukraine’s purchase of reverse Ukrainian gas gave Moscow “an understanding that we will defend our interests, we are not forced to buy at any price.

    Yes, everyone saw that they were ready to buy more than directly in Russia and pay in advance - for Russia this is an ideal option, because gas, anyway, ours, but Europeans regularly pay for it
  35. +1
    31 August 2015 09: 17
    The most surprising fact is that Russia is a kind soul, it can still give all the discounts requested by independent cannibals.

    After all, we supply them with gasoline, diesel fuel for tanks, electric. energy, hold banks there, etc.

    We trade with the enemy, which happens when playing giveaways.

    It's time to stop such vile games.
  36. +1
    31 August 2015 09: 20
    Ukraine is like that girl in a joke. "I sit drinking coffee in a cafe. A guy comes up and says:" Girl, can I pay for you? "Well, I was not at a loss - I got receipts for gas, electricity, water." And further. "Cursing mos ... they burned Russian gas with hatred in Ukrainian kitchens."
  37. +1
    31 August 2015 09: 21
    So recently they announced that they would not buy Russian gas ...
    It is dangerous to conduct business with the current leadership of Ukraine, especially when the treasury is empty ...
  38. 0
    31 August 2015 09: 35
    Gazprom will wander, wander and "merge". Where? Yes, all the same.
    And, they correctly write that then they will get everything from the Russians by domestic prices.
    But what about? Foreign exchange flow is a FLOW different from water. It flows in an unknown direction. And it’s a sin not to take advantage of such a physical feature.
    1. 0
      31 August 2015 09: 50
      Quote: loaln
      Gazprom will wander, wander and "merge". Where? Yes, all the same.

      and what remains for him? The upcoming redistribution of the energy market is binding. Gazprom’s affairs are not as good as it is customary to imagine, based on Miller-Novak press releases. And the xoxls take advantage of this. Would anyone do otherwise?
      Quote: loaln
      And, they correctly write that then they will get everything from the Russians by domestic prices.

      Foreign trade marginal failures state monopoly doomed offset by the domestic market. Shuffling with Turkish-South-Chinese flows will not help. Gazprom made a timid attempt to blackmail and washed.
      Quote: loaln
      Foreign exchange flow is a FLOW different from water. It flows in an unknown direction.

      why - in the unknown? With reference to the country in which there are no currency restrictions - it is quite clear where. He runs, darling, from the country.
  39. +1
    31 August 2015 09: 42
    Discounts are usually requested. And here it requires. Insolent kid.
    But what about the reverse. You have to pay there, but free from Russia?
  40. 0
    31 August 2015 09: 44
    "" "But I think that there should be such a discount, because there is a business case." "" - dreamed ..... Harvest dumplings.
    “Should” does not mean that it should.
    1. -1
      31 August 2015 10: 10
      Council
      Quote: Nyrobsky
      Harvest dumplings.
      already sounded a year ago. Something smoke from dungsters in the sky of xoxland in the winter of 2014/2015 was not noticed. However, a caricature of xoxla with frozen snot will still be in use.
  41. 0
    31 August 2015 10: 55
    In his opinion, a real discount will be around 30-40 dollars per thousand cubic meters, since Ukraine does not pay transit fees Russian Gazprom


    Why did they hang out in 404, who doesn’t pay a fee ?!

    TRANSIT DUTIES - customs duties levied on the passage of foreign goods across the border of a given country following through its territory for consumption in a third country. The purpose of transit duties is to cover the costs of customs authorities carrying out customs control and customs clearance of goods through the border.


    Ah yes GP, oh yes son of a bitch, it turns out he drives gas through 404, and she also pays for it wassat
  42. 0
    31 August 2015 11: 36
    I do not understand! neither my experience nor my assessments of the environment are enough to explain why we so obediently and meekly agree with the fucking creatures, constantly demanding something, begging, asking for discounts, restructuring, deferred payments. Why are we talking? Do you agree? Reverse? Go ahead! Maybe when the ass freezes in the winter to the battery, an understanding of all the harshness of the authorities will come? ALWAYS, our, Russian interests should always be in the corner of the corner. The rest follows. I do not understand.
    1. 0
      31 August 2015 11: 53
      Quote: Moonsund
      I do not understand! neither my experience nor my assessments of the environment are enough to explain why we so obediently and meekly agree with the fucking creatures

      because you have to sell gas.
      Quote: Moonsund
      all the harshness of hohlovlasti?

      well, if the Maidan could achieve triumph perfect power, then it must be permanent and infinite. Smoke and soot from tires in the stratosphere and, as a result, nuclear winter ....
  43. 0
    31 August 2015 13: 03
    This cannot be done. You can’t support fascism. Let them receive gas discounts from Europe and America.

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