Ministry of Energy of Ukraine: Kiev can get a discount on Russian gas

The head of the Ministry of Energy and Coal Industry of Ukraine, Vladimir Demchishin, said in an interview with the 5 Channel that Kiev may demand a discount on gas from Moscow.




"The price at which we are ready to buy should be objective, reasonable and beneficial for us," RIA quotes him. "News".

Ukrainian politician stressed that Ukraine’s purchase of reverse Ukrainian gas gave Moscow “an understanding that we will defend our interests, we are not forced to buy at any price. What is the discount for the fourth quarter - is still unknown, there is a discussion. But I think that such a discount should be, because there is a business case.

In his opinion, the real discount will be about 30-40 dollars per thousand cubic meters, since Ukraine does not pay transit fees to Russian Gazprom.
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  1. SS68SS 31 August 2015 07: 22 New
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    "The price at which we are ready to buy should be objective, reasonable and beneficial for us," RIA quotes him.


    A crest without a freebie is not a crest. Yaytsenyuh now refers to Russia only in an ultimatum form. It is necessary to treat it. Can give a tie to chew ....
    1. Chertkov Oleg 31 August 2015 07: 24 New
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      Cheaper only for nothing, everything is as always. A Huhu is not hoho?
      1. MIKHAN 31 August 2015 07: 40 New
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        Shaw again such discounts .... am
        1. northern 31 August 2015 11: 50 New
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          Quote: MIKHAN
          Shaw again such discounts ...

          Horseradish bald, not discounts.
      2. Starover_Z 31 August 2015 07: 40 New
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        Quote: Oleg Chertkov
        Cheaper only for nothing, everything is as always. A Huhu is not hoho?

        Need a discount ?! With Europe on this occasion first!
        You aim there with all 4 hooves, and there the prices are different!
        1. Poppy 31 August 2015 09: 12 New
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          yes let them demand, they have the right to demand anything
          our right is not to give a discount
          1. PValery53 1 September 2015 00: 22 New
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            Do not give a discount - our "not right, but duty".
    2. annodomene 31 August 2015 07: 35 New
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      It’s better to tighten the neck tight ... laughing
      1. captain 31 August 2015 08: 32 New
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        Dear forum participants, there will be a discount, well, our president and prime minister will not be able to abandon the "brotherly" people. They can’t. Otherwise, kirdyk will come to our Crimea, it will not receive gas and electricity. We sell diesel fuel at a preferential price to Ukraine and help the APU. And former soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard come to us to earn money, the right sector comes over to us, as if to our home. Remember the events in Moscow when they tried to tear a St. George ribbon from a journalist at a rally of our "opposition". I understand your anger, I am indignant, but our leaders will give a discount, they will not go anywhere.
        1. Amurets 31 August 2015 08: 45 New
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          I don’t believe that there is no database for the entire nationalist gang. It’s necessary to catch this evil right on the border and immediately and immediately to the wall. But our opposition, led by Kasyanov, should be sent to build the enterprises that they destroyed. Moreover, they should be restored at their own expense. They don’t want to let them die of hunger.
          1. vladimirZ 31 August 2015 10: 15 New
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            And send our opposition, led by Kasyanov, to build enterprises that they destroyed. And to restore at their own expense - Amur

            Unfortunately, those who destroyed our enterprises, and in whose ranks were, at one time, Kasyanov, Nemtsov, Kudrin, Kokh and other retirees from power, are still in the highest power of Russia, "rule the ball", and in no way they are not the opposition, they are destroying enterprises, the ruling "elite" of Russia.
            And the Kasyanovs - waste material, foam thrown from a liberal boiler.
            This is me to understand the alignment of political forces and the essence of the ongoing political events in Russia.
        2. tilovaykrisa 31 August 2015 10: 51 New
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          first let 3 lard of debts in Eurobonds be returned, and they may not give a discount, if the electricity is turned off to the Crimea, we won’t supply electricity to Ukraine again, the cables are laid and the diesel generators are already deployed, it will not be easy but the Crimea will survive the winter but dill not sure.
    3. just exp 31 August 2015 07: 38 New
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      the ultimate form is for the mental health of kaklov (not to be confused with the Ukrainians), so that they would see that they jumped and brought to power not a sucker of some kind, but a strong politician.
    4. vlade99 31 August 2015 08: 25 New
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      Quote: SS68SS
      It is necessary to treat it.

      Leopard change his spots.
    5. Sasha 19871987 31 August 2015 08: 28 New
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      nevermind they need a big one, not a discount, they’re blaming us from all the cracks, and also give a discount to freeloaders ...
    6. aleks 62 next 31 August 2015 09: 15 New
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      .... The key here is: ".... that Kiev may REQUEST a gas discount from Moscow ...."

      ..... ALREADY REQUEST !!!! ..... Ohamel completely "brotherly people" .... belay
    7. Alexey Boukin 31 August 2015 09: 35 New
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      To demand does not mean to receive. The freebie should end. Stop twirling your tail in front of the "country of the aggressor" and beg for discounts. Let's look at the reaction of our "government" ...
      1. Mareman Vasilich 31 August 2015 09: 40 New
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        Maybe he demands it because he knows something? I think our Anglo-Saxons will be sold once again and gas will be given to Ukrainians at the price that they would say from Washington. When the fifth column is strong in power, it is very difficult, almost impossible, to be independent.
    8. Vend 31 August 2015 09: 42 New
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      Quote: SS68SS
      "The price at which we are ready to buy should be objective, reasonable and beneficial for us," RIA quotes him.


      A crest without a freebie is not a crest. Yaytsenyuh now refers to Russia only in an ultimatum form. It is necessary to treat it. Can give a tie to chew ....

      Yes, it is necessary to treat them harshly.
      Quote: SS68SS
      beneficial for us
      This phrase amused me more. It is beneficial for them, and not for Russia. No, we will keep our benefit too.
  2. avvg 31 August 2015 07: 22 New
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    Ukrainians again want to “freebie.” Firmly stuck on his neck, do not want to get off.
    1. namer 31 August 2015 07: 26 New
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      Quote: avvg
      Again Ukrainians want a "freebie."

      You can rest assured that they will receive it.
      1. Penetrator 31 August 2015 07: 32 New
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        Quote: namer
        Quote: avvg
        Again Ukrainians want a "freebie."

        You can rest assured that they will receive it.

        Receive. Shekel would not receive discounts from you, and Russia is a generous soul. In addition, the fraternal people, albeit controlled and fooled by your tribesmen, dear namer.
        1. VseDoFeNi 31 August 2015 07: 40 New
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          Quote: Penetrator
          Besides the fraternal people,

          Not fraternal, but one divided. Our task is to unite again into a single people!

        2. Alexander Romanov 31 August 2015 07: 50 New
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          Quote: Penetrator

          Receive.

          Quote: Penetrator

          You can rest assured that they will receive it.

          They don’t get it, the Kremlin has a crisis wassat
      2. just exp 31 August 2015 07: 41 New
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        if again they press Crimea (energy) or transit (gas) then they can get ((((
        1. Penetrator 31 August 2015 07: 44 New
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          Quote: just EXPL
          if again they press Crimea (energy) or transit (gas) then they can get ((((

          They will not press Crimea - the energy bridge will be commissioned in December. And transit .. Gas transit is also a European problem.
          1. 33 Watcher 31 August 2015 11: 58 New
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            THIS IS ONLY A EUROPEAN PROBLEM !!!
      3. 33 Watcher 31 August 2015 11: 56 New
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        Now they may receive it, but in a couple of years the time will come when it will have to work out EVERYTHING, COMPLETELY, for all the years. And let them pray that it would be political practice. Otherwise ... laughing
      4. Semurg 31 August 2015 18: 37 New
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        Quote: namer

        You can rest assured that they will receive it.

        Decisions on Gazprom discounts are made by a single person in the Russian Federation. It will be interesting to read the comments of local fighters against the "fascists." True, they have the sacred mantra "he again outplayed everyone."
      5. The comment was deleted.
    2. Amurets 31 August 2015 08: 24 New
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      Ukrainians want through the EU to get the keys to gas pumping stations on the border with Europe in Transcarpathia.
  3. just exp 31 August 2015 07: 24 New
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    and he hoped and believed ....
    1. afdjhbn67 31 August 2015 07: 31 New
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      Wow - keyboard virtuoso, where did you find it? laughing
      1. just exp 31 August 2015 07: 39 New
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        it is an ordinary solid sign, next to the letter X is located (the most Russian letter).
        1. Alexander Romanov 31 August 2015 07: 49 New
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          Quote: just EXPL
          it is an ordinary solid sign, next to the letter X is located (the most Russian letter).

          And why put it?
          1. just exp 31 August 2015 09: 24 New
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            zakos under pre-revolutionary writing.
            All ashipke aftyr brush Ivo aftarskim style.
          2. afdjhbn67 31 August 2015 09: 28 New
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            eh darkness i, darkness .. crying
          3. afdjhbn67 31 August 2015 09: 55 New
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            Our dialogue shows that modern spelling is just as necessary to "b"
  4. the polar 31 August 2015 07: 25 New
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    In the heading “they can get a discount” and in the text “they can get a discount”.
    Do site editors see no difference in meanings or speculate on readers' interest in the topic?
    1. Egoza 31 August 2015 07: 40 New
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      Quote: Polar
      Do site editors see no difference in meanings or speculate on readers' interest in the topic?

      Press article, which means "copyright" to violate no matter what! But the main thing is precisely quoted "price ... so that it would be profitable" Schaz! Although if in exchange the complete liberation of Donbass - well, you can still think.
      1. the polar 31 August 2015 08: 12 New
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        No, the article is not from the press, from the "press" only a photo, but the article itself with information, as old as a mammoth, was sucked out of a finger by some editor of VO. This is confirmed by the fact that my comment was the first, and he, offended by the editor, pushed deep down. Seesly dreams of becoming a famous writer
  5. Mountain shooter 31 August 2015 07: 26 New
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    Oh yeah! Russia is at war with you! How can you negotiate with the aggressor? Yes, and ask for discounts? But the fact that dill is energetically dependent on Russia, not only for gas, but also for electricity, do not scare them?
    1. namer 31 August 2015 07: 27 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Oh yeah! Russia is at war with you! How can you negotiate with the aggressor? Yes, and ask for discounts? But the fact that dill is energetically dependent on Russia, not only for gas, but also for electricity, do not scare them?

      Well, the problem is at least mutual, some ask for a discount from the aggressor, others give it to the Nazis.
      1. 78bor1973 31 August 2015 07: 31 New
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        Yes, take off now no one will sit down at the negotiating table, this is all for complacency!
      2. just exp 31 August 2015 07: 40 New
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        the aggressors are forced to give a discount to the fascists, for the fascists are fascists and that would be fierce and build problems for others.
      3. Voha_krim 31 August 2015 07: 44 New
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        Quote: namer
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Oh yeah! Russia is at war with you! How can you negotiate with the aggressor? Yes, and ask for discounts? But the fact that dill is energetically dependent on Russia, not only for gas, but also for electricity, do not scare them?

        Well, the problem is at least mutual, some ask for a discount from the aggressor, others give it to the Nazis.

        The discount is not given to the fascists, but to the common people (though how long will it reach him? Is another question).
        1. just exp 31 August 2015 07: 48 New
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          not how much, but how much.
        2. 33 Watcher 31 August 2015 12: 06 New
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          Nonsense write dear! I am ordinary people. I am a citizen of this resource-rich country. And at the gas station and in the bills for the LCD, no one does not give me discounts, I think, too. Only those inside Gazprom have dreams come true.
      4. 33 Watcher 31 August 2015 12: 01 New
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        How mutual? This is the problem of some over there. I have no problems, I clearly know how to behave with blackmailers, and with the Nazis too. hi
  6. brasist 31 August 2015 07: 26 New
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    The head of the Ministry of Energy and Coal Industry of Ukraine, Vladimir Demchishin, said in an interview with the 5 Channel that Kiev may demand a discount on gas from Moscow.

    A trebovolka not break?
    1. 0255 31 August 2015 09: 40 New
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      Quote: brasist
      A trebovolka not break?

      Still not broken, dill get a discount from the "aggressor" sad
  7. Name 31 August 2015 07: 28 New
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    Everything will depend on Miller’s position, or rather, on Putin’s decision. The opinion of Demchishin does not mean anything.
  8. rotmistr60 31 August 2015 07: 28 New
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    that Kiev may demand a discount on gas from Moscow

    Well, they already demand, pay attention not asking. I have already written several times that our concessions to Ukraine on energy resources are perceived by them and the West as weakness. As a result of this, then such statements appear that look like orders. I hope that the government will no longer make any concessions. Otherwise, it will be a disgrace to Russia.
    1. Simon 31 August 2015 08: 25 New
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      That's right, we must do so that they beg us, otherwise they will soon begin to order.
  9. serega.fedotov 31 August 2015 07: 29 New
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    Fuck reverse gas buy-let Slovaks on Russian gas raise the loot!
    And it’s easier for us-Slovaks immediately go to the barrel, and they will deal with the independent kooky.
  10. perm23 31 August 2015 07: 30 New
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    It’s just interesting if the USSR could buy and demand from Germany discounts on products in 1941, or the Germans in 1943–45 would demand discounts on gasoline and manganese nickel from us.
    And then demand a discount from the aggressor and immediately yell that they are a bastion of democracy, that they are a wall. And the most important thing in all of this is not to understand who is more than morons, we or they. It seems to me that we - they abuse us, scold us, press us with sanctions and we all recognize these freaks, we trade with them, we give discounts.
  11. evil partisan 31 August 2015 07: 35 New
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    Ministry of Energy of Ukraine: Kiev can get a discount on Russian gas
    So what is this news? They received a discount a priori. Another thing is that she did not suit them. Again, they want to pass off a completely regular development of events as an overthrow?
    Quote: wicked partisan
    Kiev may require
    Well, they are in vain. “Bankrupt cannot demand, bankrupt can only ask.” - S.V. Lavrov.
  12. mamont5 31 August 2015 07: 37 New
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    You can rest assured that they will receive it.

    I hope that the decision will be made, after all the calculations "as it is to our advantage."
  13. kartalovkolya 31 August 2015 07: 38 New
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    Well, if our Ministry of Energy, out of stupidity or for any other reason, will again sell Svidomo gas at discounts, this will be a direct betrayal of not only Russia's economic interests, but direct help of the junta to destroy Russians in the Donbass! Bastrykin to the studio!
  14. Amurets 31 August 2015 07: 41 New
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    Is it time to demand from Ukraine all debts with interest? And initiate lawsuits on the return of debts paid by GTU for ships and aircraft. There will be a lot of debts there. Let them give no money to equipment of enterprises, land to any other material values. It is good that they managed to return Crimea in time, otherwise in April 2013 Crimea would become an American state. So do not give them any discounts. And disconnect from gas until it is not calculated.
  15. Masya masya 31 August 2015 07: 45 New
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    The price at which we are ready to sell should be objective, reasonable and profitable for us! Do not want, do not take ...
  16. BOB044 31 August 2015 07: 46 New
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    “The price at which we are ready to buy should be objective, reasonable and beneficial for us,”
    I'm sticking out. But Russia should not accidentally restore the economy of Ukraine. fool
  17. sv68 31 August 2015 07: 51 New
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    You still haven’t returned your debts for the delivered gas! To give this minister a stupid sledgehammer !!
  18. Dezinto 31 August 2015 07: 51 New
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    The gas discount .... pff ...- garbage .... a couple of months ago they announced that we should give them some billions there to restore the Donbass - which they themselves bombed.

    Here it is ho.hol style !! - "Give me money! Give me gas! I hate you! But give me money? Give me something to eat! - you don’t have anything to shit at the door" .....
  19. Turk 31 August 2015 07: 53 New
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    Quote: SS68SS
    Can give a tie to chew ....

    Better yesterday's socks. laughing
  20. Voha_krim 31 August 2015 07: 54 New
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    The Ukrainian politician emphasized that Ukraine’s purchase of reverse Ukrainian gas gave Moscow “an understanding that we will defend our interests,

    How interesting - Russia offered gas at $ 341.5, and bought reverse at $ 362! Who are they doing worse? They also "demand"! And they’ll probably stomp their feet! Oh well! Reverse further! They will only speak with you in a sound tone!
  21. vlad.svargin 31 August 2015 07: 55 New
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    The Ukrainian politician emphasized that Ukraine’s purchase of reverse Ukrainian gas gave Moscow “an understanding that we will defend our interests, we are not forced to buy at any price

    Again, ambition for nothing. The price of a reverse from the EU is not yet known, and whether ambitious politicians will be able to upload “underground” policies to underground storage facilities with a reverse volume ,,, Of course not. All these ambitions resemble a capricious child who does not wear mittens for evil Mom ... recourse
  22. Flinky 31 August 2015 08: 00 New
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    Kiev may require a discount on gas from Moscow

    You can not read further.
  23. polkovnik manuch 31 August 2015 08: 02 New
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    Kakip such discounts! Say goodbye to sell only at market price + extra charge (for not honoring Russia!)
  24. AdekvatNICK 31 August 2015 08: 17 New
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    Explain why they always require a discount? there is a contract - pay. No, come on, goodbye. Hey, it would be more likely that this pipe would close.
  25. ibu355yandex.ru 31 August 2015 08: 19 New
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    Discounts on gas hohlopitekam need to look at European hubs! There they are waiting with open arms. And discounts are already provided. And LNG from the mattress is on the way!
  26. ALEA IACTA EST 31 August 2015 08: 29 New
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    There you have it, dill, not a discount on gas.
    1. revnagan 31 August 2015 08: 43 New
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      Actually, this is not hell ... But your message is clear. Will they understand him at Gazprom?
  27. Nikoha.2010 31 August 2015 08: 29 New
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    What discount for the fourth quarter is still unknown, there is a discussion.

    Hello everyone hi ! Where is the discussion? In the Verkhovna Rada, Naftogaz or in the minds of Ukrainian politicians. Gaprom has another “problem” outlined. In Egypt, or rather in the Mediterranean Sea, they found a gas field with an area of ​​about 100 sq. Km. It will take years to develop this field, but the Turkish Stream is also being built with a scratch. But on the account of the requirement of discounts, it’s just nonsense, but we can expect everything from Moscow and nobody will ask us with you. IMHO!
    1. Nyrobsky 31 August 2015 09: 40 New
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      Quote: Nikoha.2010
      Gaprom has another “problem” outlined. In Egypt, or rather in the Mediterranean Sea, they found a gas field with an area of ​​about 100 sq. Km.

      For Gazprom, this is not a problem))) Cairo has already stated that when developing this gas field, it will stop importing gas for up to 5 years by switching to its own gas. We do not import gas to them
    2. evil partisan 31 August 2015 11: 06 New
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      Quote: Nikoha.2010
      Gaprom has another “problem” outlined. In Egypt, or rather in the Mediterranean Sea, they found a gas field with an area of ​​about 100 sq. Km.

      Depth - 1,5 km. yes
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      It will take years to develop this field.

      Years 20. Well, nothing less than 10. During this time, a lot of things will happen.
  28. vladimirw 31 August 2015 08: 36 New
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    Whatever we write here, BUT our rulers, due to an increase in domestic tariffs, will give any discount to the Ukrainian fascists! Liberasty spit on the interests of the motherland, they want to be in a geyropu
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    I would have closed the “crane” altogether, even if they ask or jump from the west. And you see how beneficial it is for them.
  30. Pavel Vereshchagin 31 August 2015 08: 39 New
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    Zadolbite these dill with their ultimatums.
  31. Sapiens 63 31 August 2015 08: 53 New
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    [quote = vladimirw] Whatever we write here, BUT our rulers, by raising internal tariffs, will give any discount to the Ukrainian fascists! Liberasts spit on the interests of the motherland, they want to be a geyropu [/. Are you talking about some liberals? Who are in the Kremlin? We have one person who makes such decisions ...
  32. allexx623 31 August 2015 08: 56 New
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    Guys, wake up! They will definitely get this discount, BUT at our expense. I have a gas receipt from July - 73 rubles with a penny per cubic meter. Before that, it was 67 rubles. per cube It turns out more than 1000 (THOUSAND!) American Tugs per 1000 cubic meters. And here you are, my type of government is condemning Ukraine for providing discounts. Everything is much sadder. When will they give us a discount? Who will demand from us, as this Demchishin demands from ours from them. Can we call him to ourselves, for protection, like, national interests? It’s a joke, of course, but it somehow hurts to look at the policies of the “native” authorities.
  33. K-50 31 August 2015 09: 05 New
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    “The price at which we are ready to buy should be objective, reasonable and beneficial for us,”
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    Is it better to finally free or even pays Russia that we use its gas?
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    But I think that such a discount should be, because there is an economic justification.
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    Because we want it so much?
    Ukropiteksky insanity !!!! laughing am
  34. Poppy 31 August 2015 09: 15 New
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    The Ukrainian politician emphasized that Ukraine’s purchase of reverse Ukrainian gas gave Moscow “an understanding that we will defend our interests, we are not forced to buy at any price.

    Yes, everyone saw that they were ready to buy more than directly in Russia and pay in advance - for Russia this is an ideal option, because gas, anyway, ours, but Europeans regularly pay for it
  35. akudr48 31 August 2015 09: 17 New
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    The most surprising fact is that Russia is a kind soul, it can still give all the discounts requested by independent cannibals.

    After all, we supply them with gasoline, diesel fuel for tanks, electric. energy, hold banks there, etc.

    We trade with the enemy, which happens when playing giveaways.

    It's time to stop such vile games.
  36. Vladimir1960 31 August 2015 09: 20 New
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    Ukraine is like that girl in a joke. “I'm sitting drinking coffee in a cafe. A guy comes up and says:“ Girl, can I pay for you? ”Well, I was not taken aback - I got receipts for gas, electricity, water.” And further. "Cursing mos ... her, in Ukrainian kitchens they burned Russian gas with hatred."
  37. gelezo47 31 August 2015 09: 21 New
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    So recently they announced that they would not buy Russian gas ...
    It is dangerous to conduct business with the current leadership of Ukraine, especially when the treasury is empty ...
  38. loaln 31 August 2015 09: 35 New
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    Gazprom rests, rests and merges. Where? Yes, all the same.
    And, they correctly write that then they will get everything from the Russians by domestic prices.
    But what about? Foreign exchange flow is a FLOW different from water. It flows in an unknown direction. And it’s a sin not to take advantage of such a physical feature.
    1. Das Boot 31 August 2015 09: 50 New
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      Quote: loaln
      Gazprom rests, rests and merges. Where? Yes, all the same.

      and what remains for him? The upcoming redistribution of the energy market is binding. Gazprom’s affairs are not as good as it is customary to imagine, based on Miller-Novak press releases. And the xoxls take advantage of this. Would anyone do otherwise?
      Quote: loaln
      And, they correctly write that then they will get everything from the Russians by domestic prices.

      Foreign trade marginal failures state monopoly doomed offset by the domestic market. Shuffling with Turkish-South-Chinese flows will not help. Gazprom made a timid attempt to blackmail and washed.
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      Foreign exchange flow is a FLOW different from water. It flows in an unknown direction.

      why - in the unknown? With reference to the country in which there are no currency restrictions - it is quite clear where. He runs, darling, from the country.
  39. roskot 31 August 2015 09: 42 New
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    Discounts are usually requested. And here it requires. Insolent kid.
    But what about the reverse. You have to pay there, but free from Russia?
  40. Nyrobsky 31 August 2015 09: 44 New
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    "" "But I think that such a discount should be, because there is an economic justification." "" - dreamed ..... Harvest dumplings.
    “Must” does not mean that it is obligated.
    1. Das Boot 31 August 2015 10: 10 New
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      Harvest dumplings.
      already sounded a year ago. Something smoke from dungsters in the sky of xoxland in the winter of 2014/2015 was not noticed. However, a caricature of xoxla with frozen snot will still be in use.
  41. anfil 31 August 2015 10: 55 New
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    In his opinion, a real discount will be around 30-40 dollars per thousand cubic meters, since Ukraine does not pay transit fees Russian Gazprom


    Why did they hang out in 404, who doesn’t pay a fee ?!

    TRANSIT DUTIES - customs duties levied on the passage of foreign goods across the border of a given country following through its territory for consumption in a third country. The purpose of transit duties is to cover the costs of customs authorities carrying out customs control and customs clearance of goods through the border.


    Ah yes GP, oh yes son of a bitch, it turns out he drives gas through 404, and she also pays for it wassat
  42. Moonsund 31 August 2015 11: 36 New
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    I do not understand! neither my experience nor my assessments of the environment are enough to explain why we so obediently and meekly agree with the fucking creatures, constantly demanding something, begging, asking for discounts, restructuring, deferred payments. Why are we talking? Do you agree? Reverse? Go ahead! Maybe when the ass freezes in the winter to the battery, an understanding of all the harshness of the authorities will come? ALWAYS, our, Russian interests should always be in the corner of the corner. The rest follows. I do not understand.
    1. Das Boot 31 August 2015 11: 53 New
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      I do not understand! neither my experience nor my assessments of the environment are enough to explain why we so obediently and meekly agree with the fucking creatures

      because you have to sell gas.
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      all the harshness of hohlovlasti?

      well, if the Maidan could achieve triumph perfect power, then it must be permanent and infinite. Smoke and soot from tires in the stratosphere and, as a result, nuclear winter ....
  43. cergey51046 31 August 2015 13: 03 New
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    This cannot be done. You can’t support fascism. Let them receive gas discounts from Europe and America.