Former Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine: we need a wall between democracy and barbarism

In Ukraine, they are trying to justify the allocation of billions of hryvnias to create the so-called “European shaft” on the border with Russia. Thus, the ex-foreign minister “Square” (2007-2009) Vladimir Ogryzko said that the “wall” that Yatsenyuk is trying to build helps to protect Ukraine from the “Asian horde”. In the magazine "New time" There was an article for Ogryzko in which he writes:

A separate conversation is a wall between Ukraine and Russia; it is being built little by little and that is good. After all, it is along the eastern border of Ukraine that the civilization border between democracy and barbarism will pass.

At the same time, Ogryzko did not specify from which side of the wall barbarism ... Not from the one where they cover tires with monuments to the victims of fascism and set fire to them, not from the one where people are being pushed into trash cans and sprinkled with flour, not from the one where create "black lists" of cultural figures and ban dozens of books? And this is without taking into account a whole series of war crimes ...

Bit:

(...) we simply need a wall. Unlike the Baltic countries, in which the territory of contact with Russia is relatively small, Ukraine has 1974,04 km of border with the Russian Federation in the east and northeast. It is through these territories, in which case the Asian horde will go to the West; historical examples of this already exist. Therefore, in our case, the wall should be more than just a symbol: it should be deeply echeloned, as military experts say, so that it cannot be broken through for no reason. It is necessary to build it, because democratic states can communicate with the current Kremlin regime only through the wall.

Meanwhile, the readers of the Ukrainian newspaper Novoye Vremya for the most part respond to Ogryzko with words that are far from supporting his theses.

One of the comments (user Klopez dron) (style saved):

Is it really not clear that isolating oneself from the Moscow "horde" will not work. This fencing off can only lead to the perfect impoverishment of Ukraine. Sooner or later, patriotic pragmatists who will establish relations with Russia and continue to trade for the good of both countries will come to power in Ukraine. And the hysteria that prevails now in Ukraine, especially among the Russophobic elite (Poroshenko, Yatsenyuk, Ogryzko (what is the last name)), is simply from stupidity, corruption and powerlessness.

Comments

[avvg]

Barbara is located in Kiev (abolishes the weight of the lifestyle of the city), darling.

[just exp]

in reality, these barbarians were decent people, civilized just in Kuev, only civilizations they are different, those that are in Kuev are civilized by the cannibalistic civilization.

[Uncle VasyaSayapin]

Barbarism is in their heads, and the wall is their skull.

[Mahmut]

These victims of a lobotomy urgently need to rebuild the wall between the right and left hemisphere.

[Alexey Boukin]

Yes, let them build. There will be less "stink" from the "democratic state". The only question is, will it have time to become democratic?

[Jan Krumins]

Under any pretext, beg for money from Europe, then to plunder ...

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Well, how are the children in the sandbox .....
And at least the wipe snot wiped (pictured))))))

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: avvg

Barbara is located in Kiev

I will show how accurate and figurative the Ukrainian language is! Well, how else can you call such a man, except Stub? By the way, before calling Russia "the Asian horde", I would talk to the Canadians and find out what they think about the ukroemigrants. Moreover, this opinion was not formed yesterday - there are entire Ukrainian farms in Canada for about 150 years. About "hordes" - he is not for the West - they know the "kaklam" price. And not even for us. This is it for domestic consumption. So that Bandera cubs know who their enemy is.

To this topic. For a civilized neighboring country 404.

In Kiev, in front of the public toilet, there are two Bandera and talking:
- And what about the letter "M"?
- There Mosk .. ali poop!
- And the letter "Zh"?
- There are some Jews!
- Chu, but what about de?
- Our Ukraine, de desirably, there is a serm ...

[northern]

It's funny to watch the animals in the zoo build a fence around themselves.

[Good_Taxist]

Oh! Fucking, FUCK!
When are Russophobes fucking already calm down !!!!

[Simon]

And why should they calm down! They believe that the more squealing, the more the EU will roll away for the construction of the wall. They just don’t understand with their head that soon the wall will have to be built with Europe - to defend against the fugitive Arabs. This is just a horde that climbs without a weapon in all the cracks.

[Doctor Savage]

Yesterday, at the central heating station, I heard:

Ukraine is like a chicken with a severed head. Which is still running for some time ....

[rotmistr60]

Volodymyr Ogryzko said that the “wall” that Yatsenyuk is trying to build helps protect Ukraine from "Asian horde"

Well, what can you say about that. We already heard this from one person with a mustache under his nose. Now, Ukrainians have become purebred Aryans. Good luck to the new tribunal.

[Penetrator]

"Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine" is not a position. This is a diagnosis!

[78bor1973]

The guy knows everything about the walls! That's right, garden, you can still make out the road ...

[serega.fedotov]

Quote: 78bor1973

The guy knows everything about the walls! That's right, garden, you can still make out the road ...

First, the wall with Russia, then with Europe (so that EU migrants do not annoy), then machine-gun towers, well, at the end of the issue, Ukrainians will be able to get it in their hands!

[78bor1973]

In Europe, they themselves can be fenced off from the insins there, you can not invest!

[Simon]

Most likely the wall is being built for money laundering. The Kiev top, standing at the wall feeder, plucks a tidbit for himself and puts it in his pocket, and writes it off to build the wall. They are temporary in Kiev, all the same, people will someday understand that a thief is sitting in Kiev.

[Mountain shooter]

This is how much dough can be worn on such a construction? Saliva flows directly. A similar wall in military terms is meaningless, in the economic - suicidal. Ahead, great Ukrainians. To the great help.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

. A similar wall in military terms is meaningless, in the economic - suicidal.

Shhhhhh, don't scare insanity

[mamont5]

"Ex-Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine: We Need a Wall Between Democracy and Barbarism"

So simple. Juntiats, large and small, must be walled up tightly and pretend that they are not. Absolutely not!

[Egoza]

Let them build. Then the Russians will buy a chain link for a penny. At the cottage come in handy.

[jPilot]

What does it mean to buy. "Than to ask and be humiliated, it is better to c ... and be silent"

[Voha_krim]

At the same time, Ogryzko did not specify from which side of the wall barbarism ... Not from the one where they cover tires with monuments to the victims of fascism and set fire to them, not from the one where people are being pushed into trash cans and sprinkled with flour, not from the one where create "black lists" of cultural figures and ban dozens of books? And this is without taking into account a whole series of war crimes ...

Author 5+
The stub is burning!
Klopez dron

[evil partisan]

Oh, they will go broke on the construction of walls, like ancient China ... He really managed to build almost 9000km before this. walls, and these ... In general: what nation, such and walls. In this case, liquid ...

[Neophyte]

Having built 1 km of "walls", the dimwitted in vain hope that they will be invited by the EU to build other walls from migratory flows from Africa. The diagnosis is on the face!

[3 Gorynych]

... a village lost among impenetrable forests. Only the will of chance and thick fog could bring him to this damned place. The people living here are not like any hitherto seen by a traveler. These people, protecting themselves from the rest of the world with a deep moat, ...

This is the release of the new film "Viy" - nothing that does not remind ...

[sv68]

build or not build a wall, and your EU will throw a couple of hundreds of thousands to migrants, will you rejoice ???

[sklefosovskii]

This wall would be perfectly revered and looked at the Supreme Rada from the rest of normal Kiev

[Vladimirets]

Quote: sklefosovskii

normal Kiev

Is he there?

[asar]

With (t) the wounded are still Kukuev!
They are "erecting" a wall between the Russian Federation and the ditch!
And then ... they demand a discount on gas ... from the Russian Federation!
C (t) wounded, c (t) wounded people!
Yes, cockles, to see the harvest of "fool" today is excellent! "Fascinating" see "nonsense"!
Yes, and the ex-minister is some kind of shabby, handkerchief from the dude did not take root! It walks like a homeless person from the Kazan station!

[X Y Z]

It is through these territories, in which case the Asian horde will go to the West; historical examples of this already exist.

I would like examples and evidence, because it is well known that it was from the West, starting in 1085, that the barbarian hordes of conquerors came here. The last horde took place in 1941. It is possible that not the last.

[ALEA IACTA EST]

Yes, let the barbarians fenced off. When they begin to choke in Nazi crap - then maybe they realize the need for education.
Although, they are likely to drown in it in spite of us.

[Scud]

You need to understand what the Americans did and will do everything possible and inconceivable in inciting hatred of the Maidan people to Russia. And the soil is fertile also because about half of Ukrainians are stupid semi-fascists.

[olimpiada15]

Why semi-fascists? More likely twice fascists.
From the very beginning of this mess, Russia underestimates Bandera's fascism and its danger.
This problem is not solved by liberal and some financial and economic measures. Unfortunately, it is not possible to shut up this scum: it must be destroyed completely.

[Pavel Vereshchagin]

One surname of this figure is worth something. A bit from the mind.

[akudr48]

A stub is a product of the decomposition of a communist project in Ukraine, with all their double thoughts and many vector aspirations.

And also the result of physical and even genetic degeneration.

They always hated the Russians, but they waited, waited and gnawed ...

And they bit it and waited.

When the main ideologist of communism Kravchuk becomes the president and the main nationalist, independent, then there will always be a place for other bits and pieces.

But a country cannot be built from stubs, that’s the thing ...

[roskot]

They love loud names. The wall is almost Chinese. Asian hordes, barbarians. So they would say. We build an ordinary tyn from the Vietnamese. "And they really need a wall" so that such bits of schizophrenia do not spread. After all, a completely sick person.

[olimpiada15]

The irony of fate — the USSR was blamed for the Berlin wall and the iron curtain. Why was it to tear down the Berlin wall and open the curtain? To build new ones after years? At its core, sanctions are also a wall, only economic. And here they want to divide one people into parts.
When there was a liberation from artificial barriers in those already ancient times, people thought that the world had become so civilized that it could exist without conflict as good neighbors.
But everything turned out to be wrong, instead of good-neighborliness, the countries of the West and the United States saw an opportunity to colonize the countries that opened these obstacles. The most outrageous thing is that the good intentions and desire of the USSR to stop the arms race, which in any country lays a heavy burden on its citizens, were interpreted as a "US victory" in the Cold War, after which Russia pays indemnity in the form of uncontrolled export of national wealth. it is surrounded by military bases, they prohibit the supply of equipment and components necessary for the country to Russia, and at the same time slanders the country, accusing it of what they themselves tirelessly do: outright robbery in relation to sovereign countries.
As for the wall with Ukraine, build. In principle, Russia is no longer able to help the citizens of Ukraine resist the Bandera neo-Nazi regime and it is probably time to admit this and stop all ties with this trash and support the US-fascist regime in any form.

[Vitaly72]

The barbarians washed themselves in the bathhouse, while civilization was mired in the plague, der ,, me, lice and bonfires of the Inquisition

[Vitaly72]

The barbarians washed themselves in the bathhouse, while civilization was mired in the plague, der ,, me, lice and bonfires of the Inquisition

[Stariknv]

Ukraine is going to build a wall in the likeness of the Great Wall of China with Russia. Let them build only on higher so that someone could not jump.

[Weyland]

Yeah, this wall will wash them ... Like Lee Bo:

SOLDIERS FIGHT SOUTH FROM THE WALL

A disk has risen above the battlefield of the sun,
Again, the soldiers go to the mortal battle.
Here the air is still and heavy
And the grass here is purple with blood.
And the birds peck the human
So gobble up - not able to take off.
Those who fought with enemies here yesterday
Today under the wall lie in the graves.
But selfless warriors family
Still countless in the land of fogs ...
... distant wives husbands and sons
They fight to the rumble of drums.