Media: America lost to Arctic Russia

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The rivalry over the Arctic with its richest resources and new trade routes has already begun to be compared with the Cold War. And in this struggle, America loses to other countries, and above all to Russia, according to an article published in the New York Times.



“The Alaska Coast Guard no longer has enough ships to simultaneously monitor active shipping through the Bering Strait and control fishing in the region. The fleet of protection, including two icebreakers, is aging. Communication at high latitudes is undeveloped, and there are no deep-sea ports, ”the authors say RIA News.

The newspaper notes that "all this requires investment, but they have been absent for years due to political disputes, budgetary restrictions and bureaucracy."

"We are not the first day to shout that the country does not have the capacity to maintain any significant presence in the Arctic," the coast guard commander Paul Zakanft quoted the New York Times.

Moscow, the newspaper writes, “is building 10 search and rescue stations in the Arctic region, increasing its military presence and rebuilding Soviet bases.” The US military is looking at this tumultuous activity with caution: "The army is thinking about reducing two brigades in Alaska, and the Navy has admitted that it has little experience in operations in the Arctic."

Moreover, the Russian Federation submitted an application to the UN to expand the boundaries of the continental shelf in accordance with the UN Convention. “The United States did not even ratify this convention,” the publication reminds.

“The United States has not even entered this game,” said retired admiral Robert Papp, who previously commanded the US Coast Guard, now special representative of the State Department for cooperation in the Arctic. “I would like the US to do something of what Russia is doing - new bases, telecommunications, search and rescue capabilities.”

In his opinion, it is necessary to act the same way as during the Cold War: “when the USSR launched a satellite into space, the United States did not sit idly by saying" well done, Mother Russia ".

Thus, the future of the Arctic was at the center of yet another geopolitical rivalry, which put a new barrier between the USA and its allies and Russia. By the way, the report of the American Center for Strategic Studies, devoted to the activities of the Russian Federation in the Arctic, is called: “The New Ice Curtain”.
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  1. +31
    30 August 2015 11: 23
    “Alaska's coast guard is already short of ships to simultaneously track active shipping through the Bering Strait and control fishing in the region. The security fleet, including two icebreakers, is aging. Communication at high latitudes is undeveloped, and there are no deep-sea ports. ”
    Another pumping up of public opinion to justify pumping dollars where ordered.
    1. +21
      30 August 2015 11: 30
      By the way, the report of the American Center for Strategic Studies on the activities of the Russian Federation in the Arctic is called: “The New Ice Curtain”.

      I would call it better: "New Ice Mix". - For the first time, the Americans do not have time for a new "batch". smile
      1. +3
        30 August 2015 11: 31
        If they succeed, they don’t just throw such things away. So they are waiting for something, preparing a plan, but most likely they already have it!
        These FSHAkals will still show their rotten grin in the Arctic!
        1. +15
          30 August 2015 11: 57
          Not adapted "ONE" to harsh climatic conditions. They would be warmer somewhere ... Yes
          1. +3
            30 August 2015 21: 13
            such as Syria, Libya, Iraq ..... angry
        2. +3
          30 August 2015 14: 33
          I looked at the US icebreaker fleet. Now the Americans have one icebreaker with a capacity of over 45000 h.p. and two significantly less power. With the fleet that is at the disposal of the USA and Canada it is impossible to provide research on the study of the shelf. Here, Russian help may be needed in the US-Canadian studies Shelf from the USA. In conditions when warming began in the Arctic, a significant part of Greenland should be freed from ice. And then studies of the shelf and the bottom of the Arctic Ocean will be required.
          1. 0
            30 August 2015 18: 26
            Quote: Amurets
            a significant part of Greenland should be free of ice. And then studies of the shelf and the bottom of the Arctic Ocean will be required.

            and then there will be no research striped, according to one version, as soon as tsunamis, floods, and other delights start at the mattress, Greenland will have something to do with the rise in land due to the decrease in pressure that the glaciers now provide.
            1. +1
              31 August 2015 00: 58
              In fact, because of the Yellowstone supervolcano, their problems may begin earlier.
          2. 0
            30 August 2015 23: 54
            Quote: Amurets
            I looked at the US icebreaker fleet. Now the Americans have one icebreaker with a capacity of over 45000 h.p. and two significantly less power. With the fleet that is at the disposal of the USA and Canada it is impossible to provide research on the study of the shelf. Here, Russian help may be needed in the US-Canadian studies Shelf from the USA. In conditions when warming began in the Arctic, a significant part of Greenland should be freed from ice. And then studies of the shelf and the bottom of the Arctic Ocean will be required.

            this is certainly true, but do not belittle the industrial and technological power of the United States, and vassals should not be forgotten, you can’t hear about the closure of the world's largest shipyards in South Korea, Japan, and other tame hegemonic animals .. It will be required and everything will be done in a year one and a half, you say they have no development and experience in the construction of such ships .. So this is all complete nonsense! They can sculpt boats of any size and complexity, and they will buy the drawings from us .. or does someone think that we will not sell them? I think that already ... All of them have opportunities and resources and technologies, there is no need so far, everything will be there, first simple icebreakers and ice class ships, and then if there will be a need and atomic ones .. I will repeat with the Western world the head of the United States has everything for this .. as an example, please look at the history of MDIs, for a year they developed and riveted in thousands of pieces, while costing US industry forces without attracting the resources of other state TVs ..
            1. +1
              31 August 2015 01: 03
              I agree, ice except one. Koreans have no experience with special steels reaching the ice belt.
        3. +1
          30 August 2015 19: 23
          God is not a fraer, he sees everything. The end to the American fascists will be
      2. +10
        30 August 2015 12: 50
        Yes, dear SRTs P-15, you are really right, the situation is unique. True, on the Soviet base, but in my opinion, for the first time in modern history we have a real advantage over the Yankees. "Trifle", but nice.
        1. +1
          30 August 2015 21: 16
          Go Russia!!!! angry
      3. 0
        1 September 2015 15: 06
        They are not going to keep up with why they need it. There are no direct roads for American politics. you build invest money in infrastructure, and we will come to you with our democracy, well, further on according to the well-known scenario. As an example, remember Iraq and Saddam with his global project to irrigate his country, neither Iraq nor Saddam.
        Well, yes we are not Iraq. but it doesn’t make it easier, where the army cannot take the fortress, a donkey loaded with gold can handle it. This is what we need to remember. The fifth column has not gone anywhere. And Putin is still not Stalin, though ...
      4. 0
        1 September 2015 15: 22
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        For the first time, Americans do not have time for a new "batch"

        Yes, they never won there. More precisely, they did not try to play. For star-striped, interests south of the country were directed, not north. Cheaper.
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    3. +3
      30 August 2015 11: 31
      Believe the Americans - dig a grave for yourself.
      1. +7
        30 August 2015 11: 39
        Quote: milann
        Believe the Americans - dig a grave for yourself.

        It’s time for mattresses to start counting their losses and get used to the rank of second-class country and pacify their PR and ambitions
        1. +4
          30 August 2015 12: 09
          Quote: Wend
          It’s time for mattresses to start counting their losses and get used to the rank of second-class country and pacify their PR and ambitions

          ..and then they will not be distinguished from Papua New Guinea by anything, which, in principle, is true .. laughing
        2. +1
          30 August 2015 12: 12
          Quote: Wend
          It’s time for mattresses to start counting their losses and get used to the rank of second-class country and pacify their PR and ambitions



          It's too early ... unfortunately ...

          PS It is necessary to dynamically, constantly force the understanding that for the United States the "golden age" must someday end ...
        3. +4
          30 August 2015 12: 35
          Quote: Wend
          Quote: milann
          Believe the Americans - dig a grave for yourself.

          It’s time for mattresses to start counting their losses and get used to the rank of second-class country and pacify their PR and ambitions

          They are already a country of Evil, Deceit and Deception, only because of their "exclusiveness" they do not understand this, for them money and profit are the most important things in life. For this they are ready to kill and are actively doing it all over the world. The Americans are pests, they have already shit all over the world, have unleashed and continue to inflate hotbeds of tension throughout the planet, explaining this by alleged observance of human rights and implanting democracy, but they themselves do not have this very democracy in the United States. It is required to deprive them of what is most dear to them - money, and then, after a generation, their government will grow wiser and become not "exceptional" (from among normal people), but rather normal, for whom the opinion of other countries means something. Otherwise, evil will be harshly defeated and finally will do good by dying!
          1. +3
            30 August 2015 13: 16
            Quote: Alexanderrr
            Quote: Wend
            Quote: milann
            Believe the Americans - dig a grave for yourself.

            It’s time for mattresses to start counting their losses and get used to the rank of second-class country and pacify their PR and ambitions

            It is required to deprive them of what is most dear to them - money, and then, after a generation, their government will grow wiser and become not "exceptional" (from among normal people), but rather normal, for whom the opinion of other countries means something. Otherwise, evil will be harshly defeated and finally will do good by dying!

            Does the world need such a country? In my opinion, no. Let the Autonomous Commonwealth of the States of America be better. Every man is his own master. It’s time to apply their favorite scenario for mattresses, it’s better to have several small states than one large one.
        4. +3
          30 August 2015 12: 36
          The time will come, we challenge the contract of sale of Alaska.
          1. 0
            2 September 2015 06: 25
            Quote: spiriolla-xnumx
            challenge the Alaska sales contract.

            There is no such contract. There was an agreement on a "lease" to legitimize the presence of private military companies of the Russian-American Company on the territory of the USA.
        5. 0
          30 August 2015 21: 16
          Let the petroleum jelly cook ................ am
    4. +13
      30 August 2015 11: 35
      That's the trouble with the Yankes, everyone is trying to pull their star-striped panties all over the globe. Truselya certainly notable, only now there is not enough size for the entire globe, the striped ones will break off, and it serves them as "exceptional"! tongue
      1. +4
        30 August 2015 11: 59
        In men's affairs, the main thing is not cowardly, but what is under them ... tongue
        1. +4
          30 August 2015 12: 01
          Quote: yuriy55
          In men's affairs, the main thing is not cowardly, but what is under them ... tongue


          Sluggish frame! laughing
          1. +1
            30 August 2015 12: 43
            Already dumped! Every day is not Sunday.


            http://alfanews.com.ua/news/469275
    5. +1
      30 August 2015 11: 36
      Another pumping up of public opinion to justify pumping dollars where ordered.
      I don’t quite agree with you. The states invested more in Antarctica, considered it more promising, and in recent times the climate has changed and technology does not stand still. It has become profitable to develop Arctic resources. And so you are right, they want to jump into the last carriage and catch the Arctic wealth section.
      1. +2
        30 August 2015 12: 15
        Therefore, yesterday’s article in support of Russia and today’s is an attempt to put pressure on Congress to ratify the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea of ​​1982. Yesterday I wrote comments that Russia is the leader in the icebreaker fleet. If the plan to build new new 3-L icebreakers is fully implemented 60 and one L-110. One icebreaker was laid at the Baltic Shipyard. The second was laid down next year. Money was allocated for both.
    6. +1
      30 August 2015 13: 14
      Quote: udincev
      pumping dollars

      The machine no longer has time to print. They should also transfer him to China. Here we have some fun.
  2. +1
    30 August 2015 11: 23
    Finally, at least in this area, we overtook America.
    1. +1
      30 August 2015 12: 13
      The global geopolitical confrontation in the Arctic is just unfolding ... And someone has already overtaken ... As a rule, among the "winners" of the loudmouths, victory slips from under their noses because they have already "won" and have relaxed ...)
      1. +4
        30 August 2015 12: 25
        Right now, it is not necessary to shout: "We are ahead" but to really do business. Strengthen the Pacific Fleet and the Kuril Flotilla so that there is something to control the Eastern sector of the Arctic and the territory of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk. The western sector protects the SF quite well. No one gave up leadership without a fight, and the Americans will not give up.
        1. +1
          30 August 2015 21: 18
          Quote: Amurets
          Strengthen Pacific Fleet and Kuril Flotilla

          Fair remark. It remains to create the Kuril Flotilla. But where will she have the GBMB? Apparently the Kamchatka flotilla was meant.
          Quote: Amurets
          The western sector protects the SF quite well.
          Yes, the SF forces have been assigned responsibility for the entire Arctic, not only for its western sector.
          Quote: Amurets
          No one gave up leadership without a fight, and the Americans will not give up.
          I'm afraid you're right. But amas will go the other way. To begin with, they will challenge through the UN the exclusive right of the Russian Federation to the NSR, transferring it from under national jurisdiction to international. Can quickly build an icebreaking fleet. But they already have submarines with compartments for fur seals and specialists MTR. Therefore, our * polar bears * will have to confront them, guarding bases and military facilities on the banks of the Arctic Ocean.
          The forces of the PF SF are facing a lot of work. We need Yaseni-M, Leaders, new generation anti-submarine aviation, military systems, PLA search systems based on new physical principles. All these are colossal means.
          Therefore: Long live a thriving economy! and her brainchild - MIC! IMHO.
          1. +1
            31 August 2015 01: 21
            Good KAA Boa! Yes you are right, this is a typo, namely the Kamchatka flotilla. It is difficult to challenge Russia's exclusive right to the NSR. It passes through the internal territorial waters of Russia. So, what do you propose is all that is needed, but the Pacific Fleet needs to be strengthened in the North-East direction and it is probably time to load the Komsomolsk shipbuilding for the Pacific Fleet with the construction of the nuclear submarine.
  3. +8
    30 August 2015 11: 24
    Russia is developing what others are still thinking about, but Washington believes that any leading actions by other countries are an aggressive policy. How they like to be leaders. request
    1. 0
      31 August 2015 12: 57
      How they like to be leaders.


      The typo in the last word is the initial letter P.

      And the rest I agree! smile
  4. +1
    30 August 2015 11: 29
    Yes, where there is amerikosam, they have a lot of cases in the whole world, everywhere you have to stick your "penny" !!!
  5. 0
    30 August 2015 11: 32
    This is just the beginning of losing. Count the "babos" gentlemen. We have been taught by Alaska.
  6. +2
    30 August 2015 11: 33
    They will receive money, with such propaganda. While they will develop, they will support the Scandinavian countries in everything. A tough political battle is ahead of us at the United Nations and other international platforms. I hope we can handle it.
  7. +2
    30 August 2015 11: 36
    What can you even know about life if you didn’t try on cardboard pants while standing in the cold on the market?
  8. 0
    30 August 2015 11: 37
    Here, as in a children's game, who is the first and stronger is the King of the Hill !!!
    1. 0
      31 August 2015 17: 48
      Not who first got up and slippers!
  9. +2
    30 August 2015 11: 37
    Lord's mattresses. See Soviet maps of the borders of the RSFSR, where the triangle with the peaks of the Kola, Chukchi Peninsulas and the North Pole is marked with a dotted line. And do not rock the boat with two icebreakers of parasail type, one of which is under repair.
    Need an Arctic? Book your tickets. Our sailors will ride comfortably to the North Pole. Do you really need the Arctic? Poop question, so you will be left there. laughing
  10. +3
    30 August 2015 11: 44
    flirted with the upheavals in the banana republics and profuca Arctic.
  11. +8
    30 August 2015 11: 52
    Russia-USSR has long ago "staked out" the Arctic and we will defend our right!
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    1. +3
      30 August 2015 12: 34
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Russia-USSR has long ago "staked out" the Arctic and we will defend our right!

      I agree, but in my opinion, the yusovskaya boat in the photo .... correct if I'm mistaken ..
      1. +1
        30 August 2015 13: 17
        Software architecture similar to the Ohio class
    2. +2
      30 August 2015 21: 44
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Russia-USSR has long ago "staked out" the Arctic and we will defend our right!
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      Mikhan is a beautiful photo, fortunately this is not our unity!
      March 22. Arctic Ocean The US submarine "USS Annapolis" is frozen into ice more than 1 meter thick. © DPA
      Ours, unlike the Ams, "did not freeze": they broke the ice, launched rockets and left.
  12. +5
    30 August 2015 11: 54
    Our "analysts" are wonderful, as if America and Russia for the Arctic and did not "fight", hence the "victory". Norway fought and it won, it didn’t give a decent chunk of our most valuable territories, completely useless. No special written terms of the transfer were fixed, and the Norwegians did not intend to observe any oral "gentlemen's agreements" and will not. Purely as Gorbachev handed over Europe under oral promises that NATO will not expand. We have a fight with Canada and Denmark ahead of us, but America simply does not need all this. At any moment, it will demand and receive any bases in the Arctic from its allies, or it will simply wait for them, "if something happens," to tearfully beg to send troops and protect, that's the whole struggle.
  13. +3
    30 August 2015 11: 54
    Then the Americans began to suck up, "Russia has the right to increase the Arctic shelf." But there is no faith!
    1. +2
      30 August 2015 12: 46
      Let's see! It seems that the first hearings at the UN were postponed this fall. This is in our favor.
  14. +3
    30 August 2015 11: 55
    There, all our lives, our Swedes and Norgs grazed, we didn’t smell like states what they cared for. Hydrocarbons, Duc, there, acre of seals, walruses and polar bears, there is no one to bomb, only they do not sideways. Stupor, however, the standard solution does not roll what
  15. +1
    30 August 2015 11: 56
    I am glad that our country is gradually coming to its senses. It is good that we are building up our presence in the Arctic using absolutely legal methods. The only bad thing is that even though the United States admits that it "lost" the fight for the Arctic. But you shouldn't believe them. By their vile ordinariness, whether by deception, or with the help of international institutions or somehow, they instruct us with sticks in the wheels.

    For this reason, we need to gain a foothold in the Arctic as quickly as possible, so that we can always give an adequate response to all opponents.
  16. +1
    30 August 2015 11: 58
    the main thing is not to slow down the pace of development and recovery!
  17. 0
    30 August 2015 12: 03
    As long as there is the Russian Northern Fleet, you cannot see the amers of the Arctic as your ears without a mirror ... tongue
  18. +1
    30 August 2015 12: 03
    We are developing the shelf, building bases, raising the country's prestige! So this is awesome! ...
    To the envy of our enemies! ... Oops, partners! ... lol
  19. 0
    30 August 2015 12: 03
    The Arctic, this is our navel of the earth.
  20. 0
    30 August 2015 12: 05
    White "people" who seized America, first of all, need to think about how to return Alaska and California to the Russians, and release the Indians from the concentration camps (reservations) to the rest of the land.
  21. +1
    30 August 2015 12: 10
    "America lost Russia's Arctic"...

    Well, the headline can be called capricious - on our part, and the next begging for money from the Congress-Senate - on the other hand ...

    The fact that Russia is now "pillar-marking" everything it can in the Arctic is a plus, it is good for us ...

    But the fact that America is not present in the Arctic, has not ratified the UN Convention and "lost" to Russia in the Arctic is verbiage ...

    As always, all actions are done by someone else’s hands ... This is Canada-Denmark-Sweden-Norway, and the same UN ...

    So the battle for the Arctic is only just beginning, and most importantly - so that Russia does not stop there and expand its Arctic capabilities ... The Arctic is not only today, it is tomorrow, and the day after tomorrow, and the future in the foreseeable future is not for one generation of the people of Russia ...
  22. +1
    30 August 2015 12: 14
    “We are not the first day to scream that the country does not have the ability to maintain any significant presence in the Arctic”

    Who first got up and slippers, or you did not know this is not respected. wassat
  23. +2
    30 August 2015 12: 15
    For a long time it was necessary to engage in the development of the Arctic by the military. And this is not only the Northern way. As far as I understand, there were no air defense systems in this direction. Neither the islands nor the mainland were protected by anything. The entry of American submarines into the Arctic Ocean and our country are in full view. It was possible to easily, easily shoot off the ammunition of a nuclear submarine completely and not one nuclear submarine.
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    2. +1
      30 August 2015 15: 16
      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/110/irvr379.png Вот такую территорию Двумя корпусами защищала 11-я Отдельная Армия ПВО в Советское врумя.Практически весь Дальний Восток. Сейчас ещё хуже.
    3. +3
      30 August 2015 22: 18
      Quote: galakt
      The entry of American submarines into the Arctic Ocean and our country are in full view. It was possible to easily, easily shoot off the ammunition of a nuclear submarine completely and not one nuclear submarine.

      I have long cited the graphic part of the Amov plan for striking SLCMs from the Arctic sector on the territory of the Russian Federation. Thank God they thought better of it and the MiG-31BM is returned to the Arctic. And then Taburetkin closed all the Arctic bases, Mlyn!
  24. 0
    30 August 2015 12: 19
    It is very difficult to develop these territories, but it is necessary! - I am proud of my country!
  25. -1
    30 August 2015 12: 24
    The black gentleman, a lover of heat and Arab spring, miscalculated in the Arctic.
    Well, all the carnival cat.
  26. -5
    30 August 2015 12: 25
    America lost Russia's Arctic

    And what's next? What's the difference, what is the territory of the country, if it is externally managed :)
  27. +3
    30 August 2015 12: 45
    Our new "Arctic" is under construction ... You can use this phrase without quotes ..
    1. +1
      30 August 2015 12: 52
      Did the new icebreaker have a name? I know him as the LK-60YA. By the way, next year they are laying the Second. Money has already been allocated.
    2. +1
      30 August 2015 12: 54
      Build right! And in all directions good

      Meanwhile, in the photo to the article, the Soviet Union nuclear icebreaker, commissioned in 1989. What is noteworthy: the icebreaker is designed in such a way that it can be retrofitted into a battleship in a short time. Some of this equipment is in a mothballed state on board, while others are stored in onshore warehouses.

      Awaiting its recovery by 2017.
  28. 0
    30 August 2015 12: 58
    that the Americans often say about the Arctic)) polar bears butted, they will have it soon))) "white revolution" laughing
    1. +2
      30 August 2015 14: 49
      Have you forgotten how at the beginning of summer the crew of polar bears, on an ice floe, defeated the English submarine. Here are the Americans outraged.
  29. AVV
    0
    30 August 2015 13: 20
    I would like the United States to do something of what Russia is doing - new bases, telecommunications, search and rescue capabilities. ” You might think they have few bases around the world ??? Let them spend a little more !!! Then the crisis will really come to their homes!
  30. 0
    30 August 2015 13: 38
    The rivalry for the Arctic with its richest resources and new trade routes has already begun to be compared with the Cold War. And in this struggle, America is losing to other countries and, above all, Russia ...
    - there was a rumor that Fashington is mobilizing the "Dachny Saiga" and rubber boats from the Ukrobandery to control the Bering Strait.
    Watch out for polar bears!
  31. -1
    30 August 2015 15: 43
    -Where is this and ... when "America lost the Arctic to Russia" ..? -What is this incomprehensible jubilation and unfounded conclusions ..?
    - It was Russia that suddenly took and signed with America the Shevardnadze-Baker treaty enslaving for itself, thus demonstrating not only its own stupidity, but also outright disregard and betrayal of its own ... Russian state interests ...
    -Then Russia voluntarily took and gave some part of the shelf to some not very powerful Norway (gave Norway a piece of the Barents Sea) ... -What was Russia hoping for ..? -What will the Norwegians help with the development of the Shtokman field ..? -But as history shows ... -any of the most innocent suddenly adopted "sanctions" against Russia and ... -all hopes go into oblivion ... -and the territorial agreement has already been signed and entered into force ... -As they say .. -What has fallen from the cart .., then ... -And who is left at the broken trough ..? - Obviously not Norway ...
    - But America and Norway ... -Chinese ships began to go more and more often into the Russian northern seas ... -And China began to build icebreakers at an accelerated pace ... -It is clearly not for joint exercises with the Russian Navy in the Mediterranean and Black seas and not for exercises on the Far Eastern coasts ...
    -China needs the Arctic ... -Russian Arctic ... -And here everyone is jubilant and rejoicing that ... "America lost the Arctic to Russia" ... -That really ...
    1. +1
      30 August 2015 16: 43
      Not everyone is jubilant, some are trying to figure out why the United States anonymously, behind the scenes, came out in support of Russia, saying that the shelf belongs to Russia. According to research in the Arctic, Russia is a leader. Perhaps the Americans may need our materials and support when the Greenland fight begins. The Chinese are interested in the Northern Sea Route, but so far they are more interested in the Northeast Passage along the coasts of Canada and the United States. This is the closest exit to the West Coast of the United States and the North Atlantic. Yes, China has two icebreakers, but they will not solve the problem of postings along the Northern Sea Route. them, and it is not known how they will behave on the ice. China has no such experience as Finland and Russia. And it is always with great pleasure that the oil and gas tycoons cherish their pleasures. The Americans spun on their whims when they allowed making the Sea of ​​Okhotsk the Inland Sea of ​​Russia. They showed that Japanese and Korean are alien to them when a solid piece of the Bering Sea has landed to them.
  32. +1
    30 August 2015 17: 07
    (“The US has not even entered this game,” said retired admiral Robert Papp)

    And Russia is not "playing". Russia is developing its own space. And he does it with success, without looking back at the grunt of the "hegemon" and others like him. bully
  33. +1
    30 August 2015 21: 20
    Quote: ermolai
    and then no research will be striped, according to one version, as soon as the tsunami begins at the mattress, it leaves Greenland

    And others do not? Or does the ocean level rise exclusively off the coast of the United States? And other countries will not affect. And Leningrad will not be under water, together with Kaliningrad? Well, the tsunami from melting ice is something new in science
    1. +1
      31 August 2015 07: 59
      No! Only off the coast of the enemies of Russia.
  34. +1
    30 August 2015 21: 25
    We will not engage in hat-making,
    but we’ll simply develop and defend our Arctic.
    1. +1
      31 August 2015 01: 34
      This is a really sensible offer. Any business can be bought.
  35. 0
    30 August 2015 22: 04
    Not far off is the time when the Americans are at a trough with their green pieces of paper.
  36. +1
    31 August 2015 01: 05
    I am glad that in connection with the warming they will finally begin to intensively use the Northern Sea Route, and given that the route through it is shorter than the Suez Canal (from Europe to China) by one and a half times, shipping in the Arctic will be very cost-effective, we must assume
    1. 0
      31 August 2015 18: 50
      Pleases. In order not to miss the unstable unpredictable nature, it is advisable to think to revitalize shipping what how to warm up the way. laughing
  37. +1
    31 August 2015 05: 11
    One can only laugh at the expense of "America lost to Russia". It's just that America had things to do in other parts of the world. And she had no time for the Arctic. With its level of economy, no matter how bloated it is, it won't take much time to catch up.
  38. 0
    31 August 2015 17: 11
    Yes, I agree that it’s too early to talk about losing wins. Well done are those who plan and implement actions in the Arctic. Recently I heard that polar expeditions are resuming and for this they will produce special platforms so as not to travel on ice floes. But in general - I believe that we will overtake (if not already surpassed).
  39. +1
    31 August 2015 17: 21
    The main thing is not to miss this advantage. Big budgets can do a lot. And although they cannot directly buy the genius of engineering, the USA is that rival, which should not be written off even when the starting positions are obviously unequal. Underestimated - then lost. I wish our respective services not to rest on their laurels, but to consistently continue their progressive movement in the territories that originally belong to us.
  40. 0
    31 August 2015 18: 26
    All of America, with the exception of the Indians (the indigenous inhabitants of this land), is a European rabble of criminals, swindlers, vile Saxons, criminals who fled from Europe so that they can give peace ??? Nothing but meanness !!!
  41. 0
    1 September 2015 14: 13
    Well done mother Russia!
  42. +1
    1 September 2015 16: 28
    Quote: Amurets
    Right now, it is not necessary to shout: "We are ahead" but to really do business. Strengthen the Pacific Fleet and the Kuril Flotilla so that there is something to control the Eastern sector of the Arctic and the territory of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk. The western sector protects the SF quite well. No one gave up leadership without a fight, and the Americans will not give up.

    Regarding the Northern Fleet: the Northern Fleet's naval grouping is scanty in comparison with its tasks. Our leadership now has the Black Sea Fleet "favorite brainchild". There are new ships and submarines. There is simply no one to provide the "holy of holies" with the deployment of the naval forces. There are almost no OVR ships and the near sea zone left. Sad to tears ...
    1. +1
      2 September 2015 07: 31
      I partially agree. The Black Sea Fleet is not able to provide all the tasks facing it because of the position of Ukraine and Georgia, which forbade the updating and strengthening of the Black Sea Fleet. Now in the Crimea. So that Khokhly gather to give the Crimea to the United States and NATO, a proven fact, as a guarantee of entry into NATO. Therefore, there was an urgent need to give part of the Black Sea Fleet ships. The Caspian flotilla cannot solve all the problems in the South. I understand your concern about the Northern Fleet, but look at the ship’s composition and the Pacific Fleet’s theater and you will understand why the Pacific Fleet needs to be strengthened. Besides, the Bering Strait and the North The eastern Arctic has always been part of the responsibility zone of the Kamchatka flotilla.
  43. 0
    2 September 2015 07: 06
    Quote: Major Yurik
    That's the trouble with the Yankes, everyone is trying to pull their star-striped panties all over the globe. Truselya certainly notable, only now there is not enough size for the entire globe, the striped ones will break off, and it serves them as "exceptional"! tongue

    Like any family panties they were rarely washed, they stink and wore quickly.

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