As a court decision in the case of Vasilyeva, Mikhail Borisovich and Garry Kimovich were brought to light

Last week, the contents of the vessel in the form of "irreconcilable opposition" began to boil. Those “yeasts” that led to this content to active fermentation and turbulence were decisions of various Russian courts regarding such persons as nationalist Oleg Mironov, who sprayed tear gas at a Makarevich concert (3 of imprisonment), ex-official of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation Yevgeny Vasilyeva (Parole) and Ukrainian director Oleg Sentsov (20 years in prison). It should be noted that among those Russians who are far from “irreconcilable” opposition views, at least one of the listed court decisions caused a storm of negative emotions, since this decision once again proved that everyone is equal before domestic law, but there are still who is more equal ...


By the situation of expressed dissatisfaction with citizens about the same release of Ms. Vasilyeva, who now also requires “unfreezing” accounts for the total amount of 300 million rubles, the “irreconcilable opposition” simply could not pass by. After all, this is for the non-living a real gift - the people are dissatisfied with a judicial decision, which means that the “irreconcilable” as it were, by definition, need to take the bull by the horns and once again raise the question (albeit often from abroad) that “this country only a change of power will save. ” Who is being offered to change? - Well, so it is understandable - on ourselves ...

And before examining and discussing oppositional turbulence, it is necessary to ask an important question: if the court decision on the same Ms. Vasilyeva is a clear gift for the “irreconcilable opposition”, then there is a force that was beneficial to make this gift? - It is so profitable that the judicial institutions did not even begin to calculate the factor, which in countries with an electoral system is one of the determining factors, namely the rating of the current authorities. But judicial institutions, for a moment, are themselves one of the branches of power ... That is so: either the judicial institutions themselves signed a frank dependence on those who consider the current system of authorities to be beneficial to discredit and loosen, and specifically saw the branch on which they were sitting, or For some reason, the established system of power considered that this decision would not affect the rating percentages of the system itself, and the people simply “need to be given time to calm down” ... As they say, there is no third

Now about the very turbulence in the opposition environment. The situation was such that, due to court decisions taken last week in Russia, “luminaries of intransigence” clashed in absentia with each other - Garry Kasparov and Mikhail Khodorkovsky. A critical point was the comment on the release of Yevgenia Vasilyeva from prison, made by Mr. Khodorkovsky. He first congratulated the ex-official on parole, announcing that she had “suffered enough”, and then decided to explain his position in full. On the portal "Open Russia" appeared an article by an ex-convict. Fragment of this Articles:

(...) was released by parole Eugene Vasiliev. And for me it is obvious - it is just a lightning rod for public discontent. Vasilyeva sat instead of Serdyukov; everything that she was accused of was done by Serdyukov. And it was done with the knowledge of Putin, who does not consider embezzlement to be such a great sin and use it to control the environment.

In recent days there has been a big discussion about the early release of Vasilyeva. It is legal, but, in the opinion of a significant part of society, unfair. This part of society is eager to revenge at least someone. And this is also a consequence of Putin’s policy of recent years - the policy of mutual hatred. And I think we should be glad that the woman was released from prison.

There is such a thing: mercy. At the heart of our rights are the Christian commandments and Christian philosophy. Mercy is their integral part. To keep a person behind bars only for the sake of others, a person who does not threaten anyone and compensate his part of the damage, mercilessly. The desire to "punish" only leads the attention of society from the true causes and the true perpetrators. We need to achieve not sitting in Vasilyeva's prison, but fair, legal laws and creating a system of their unconditional fulfillment.
And let Vasilyeva go home.


In the same article, a citizen Khodorkovsky, broadcasting from Europe, says that Russia “must become a rule-of-law state,” that “the law-enforcement system must be law-enforcement, not just protective,” that “the state must be based on law, and not on propaganda " etc. In addition, Khodorkovsky recalls the "unfair" sentence to his beloved, as well as the sentences of Pussy Riot, Navalny, the mentioned Sentsov and others.

But not “Pussy”, not Navalny, and not Sentsov, mentioned by Khodorkovsky in his tumultuous article, did not receive such attention of another “irreconcilable” - Mr. Kasparov. And the chess player, who decided to go on prikormku to the foreign "friends" of Russia, paid particular attention to precisely those lines in which the former head of Yukos is trying to justify the release of Vasilyeva by mercy. Extensive commentary statements by a person who clearly claims to be a leather armchair in the highest echelons of the Russian authorities, Kasparov issues on his Russian-language Facebook page, heading the comment in dostoevsky: "Crime and Punishment".

The main idea of ​​Kasparov’s note is that Khodorkovsky “legitimized” the liberation of Vasilyeva not at all because it was a matter of “mercy” or “protecting the rights of women”. According to Kasparov, MBH (Kasparov calls his yesterday’s “colleague” on “nepolzhivosti” in the material exactly like that), with his statements about parole Vasilyeva gives a signal to Russian “elites” that they have nothing to fear if they support him (Khodorkovsky), and that from his side, these “elites” will be provided.

As a court decision in the case of Vasilyeva, Mikhail Borisovich and Garry Kimovich were brought to light


From the material of Kasparov:
Frankly, such a step surprised me a lot, but all the actions and statements of the MBH during the last year show that this congratulation is not accidental, but completely fits into Khodorkovsky’s political strategy.
Yesterday’s statement by MBH is another appeal to the Russian elites assuring their immunity in the event of Putin being removed from power. This is not the first attempt to give a signal from Khodorkovsky: his campaign in the West, aimed at lifting sanctions against Russian officials, and the thesis about the impossibility of returning Crimea to Ukraine in the “foreseeable future” were designed to perform the same function. De facto, a situation has arisen where one of the most authoritative representatives of Russian civil society offers indulgences to people who participated in the design of the existing regime in Russia and are its beneficiaries.


Further, the chess player points out that “such a strategic line contains a rational grain”, which can lead “to Putin’s dismissal”, but at the same time adds that those representatives of the “elites” who will contribute to “bloodless regime change in Russia”, but at the same time those who committed "crimes" cannot count "on leniency."

From the material of Kasparov:
On the contrary, the designation by the opposition of clear “red lines” will force those representatives of the elite who have not yet managed to cross these lines, three times to think about whether it is worth staying with Putin until the very end, is it not better to leave the sinking ship before the load of the committed crimes draws them along with this ship to the bottom.


As is clearly seen from the texts of Khodorkovsky and Kasparov, in the midst of the “irreconcilables”, something similar began to attempt to divide the skin of an unkilled bear. Or - attempts to bargain with the “elites” from the point of view of whom and how much “under the new government” (ie, as it were with them) will be unsubscribed ... Not only that, something similar to fierce competition from opposition “leaders” "- they say, I and only I will bring Russia to the" bright democratic future "... And in response:" Do not listen to him, for I! .. And only me! .. "

This whole rat race looks ridiculous. Those who declare the goal of building a legal state, while not being embarrassed to violate the laws (Khodorkovsky not only didn’t sit out the sentence for serious criminal offenses, but now also calls on Russians (in the same article) refuse to comply with Russian legislation) and express the interests of completely different states - after all, it was already stories country. It was when "to the ground, and then ..."; it was when “foreign countries and perestroika will help us”; that was all. Against this background, an attempt to clash with supporters of Khodorkovsky and Kasparov looks even funnier (there are such fans in the Russian Federation and especially not in the Russian Federation). Supporters of the latter reproach the MBH even for the fact that Khodorkovsky still has a website in RuNet that is not blocked by Roskomnadzor. Like, is your MBH flirting with the current Russian authorities, if its press center is openly accessible, while the site of our lamp has been blocked for a long time? ..

In general, the spiders in the bank are trying to at least bite, and at the most - and devour each other “with the entrails”, declaring that they, they say, will help the people of Russia finally meet with a bright future ... bright future "? - with that, which is again “to the ground, and then ...”, or with the one in which the status of legality in the state and society will be determined solely by the personal attitude of one or another applicant for a leather chair to the personalities of Vladimir Putin? ..

It turns out that the court decision on the same Vasilyeva was also a kind of litmus test for the “irreconcilable opposition”. Some representatives actually say: yes, we are ready to support any corrupt official and bribe taker, if only he would support us in the struggle for power. Others answer: in principle, and we are ready to support any corrupt official, because the money does not smell, but even if it repeats more often that he (she) “for the change of the Kremlin regime”. That is the essence of the “irreconcilable” one - to get closer to the structures of power at any cost, rely on the support of any (including foreign) capital, hanging on the ears the next noodles about “building democracy”, and there - though the grass does not grow ... in principle, the same is true for the Western “friends” of Russia themselves, arguing, for example, on the fight against terrorism. It turns out that there are terrorists “right” and “wrong” - the right ones can be supported with finances and weapons. And the oppositionists of the MBH and Kasparov character, as it turns out, have “right” and “wrong” corrupt officials who can be relied on to achieve their own goals and express the interests of the main economic and political sponsors.
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  1. Andrey Yuryevich 31 August 2015 06: 51 New
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    Themis, she’s such a woman ... executive.request
    1. Russian Uzbek 31 August 2015 07: 27 New
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      like in the movies! "Elusive Avengers" ... there were also two "applicants" there;)
      1. captain 31 August 2015 08: 20 New
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        I apologize to the fool, but I did not understand what the author wanted to explain in the article. If I understand correctly, he writes about the legality of parole for Vasilyeva and at the same time stigmatizes Khodorkovsky and Kasparov (these people, by their ethnicity, mentality and attitude towards the Russian people, have long been no authority for most of our society). Apparently I want to make the actions of our authorities very noble and crystal clear. Serdyukov was not imprisoned just because he has a lot of information and not only defense value. That's all. And do not write articles about his amazing ability to "become an agent of Russia's interests." He did everything that none of the generals could do. Something was done successfully (the monetary allowance of the military personnel became higher, the housing problem was solved quite quickly, pilots began to fly, ships went to sea, exercises were being conducted, the number of headquarters was reduced, and the trimmed parts were removed etc.). Something is not entirely successful. They removed the group thoughtlessly on the Western and Eastern borders of our state, but for this there is the General Staff and our Supreme Commander-in-Chief. He did business with military schools, cut them too sharply and thoughtlessly, removed the institution of ensigns and did not find a replacement for him, the institution of sergeants (real junior commanders) never created. It slowed down the adoption of domestic developments, but he was not to blame for the purchase of foreign weapons in large amounts of money, this was not his prerogative. Yes, he started a harem, he stole and his concubines, but where was the accounting chamber, military prosecutor's office and our glorious deputies? He did a lot of bad things, but also a lot of good things. It seems to me that everything lies in the plane of family relations, he is Zubkov’s son-in-law, and he was offended and decided to punish him for treason. And most importantly, Serdyukov did not come to the Ministry of Defense himself, who appointed him there was appointed by a person who knew everything, but they are simply afraid to write about this. This is our president, whom I respect and I think many citizens of our country. I am waiting for angry denials and cons, I will not be offended.
        1. Vitaly72 31 August 2015 09: 08 New
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          Holy simplicity
        2. I do not care 31 August 2015 09: 50 New
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          Quote: captain
          . I am waiting for angry denials and cons, I will not be offended.

          yes what insults, such a life
        3. Aleksander 31 August 2015 10: 44 New
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          Quote: captain
          Something was accomplished successfully (the monetary allowance of the military personnel became higher, the housing issue was resolved quite quickly, pilots began to fly, ships set sail, exercises were being conducted

          Funding appeared, and contentment appeared. Think about the fact that with that funding there should have been times TEN more of the same apartments and equipment, but what we have is crumbs from stolen goods.. And the fact that they stole wildly and a lot was proved by the court.
          1. Mahmut 31 August 2015 11: 18 New
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            And why they are so disliked in Russia.
          2. lelikas 31 August 2015 17: 43 New
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            Quote: Aleksander
            Funding appeared, and contentment appeared. Think about the fact that with that funding there should have been TEN more of the same apartments and equipment, but what we have is crumbs from stolen goods .. And the court proved that they stole wildly and a lot.

            Very good acquaintance, won the tender, but the delivery of household appliances to MO - the cadet barracks were converted into a mini hotel, followed by sale to private individuals - the benefit was canceled in the light of the ensuing mess - the cadets in ah ** tung -
            in each room on TV with microwave, refrigerator and iron ... laughing
        4. kot28.ru 31 August 2015 12: 23 New
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          Yuri, I don’t know how I will deal with ensigns in the MO later, I hope for the best, but in our department the rank of ensign is minimal, there are no soldier-sergeants, and everyone who is assigned to the service is assigned the rank of ensign! Therefore, I doubt very much that in 15-20 years the rank of ensign will be specific, it seems like only in one structure! Apparently, such an experiment was canceled in a timely manner! And yet, a classmate left the structure, at first they didn’t take him because of the rank in the Defense Ministry, after the departure of Serdyuk, the set of ensigns in MO resumed! hi
        5. JACTUS RECTUS 31 August 2015 15: 06 New
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          This lady was released, Putin's rating fell by 6%. We draw conclusions.
        6. proletarian 31 August 2015 22: 26 New
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          And who said sir, what are you?
          Just the author had in mind that this situation was a "litmus" paper for the "non-living", that is. once again showed what all this "unsystematic ... OPPA" is worth.
        7. igortyson 1 September 2015 21: 59 New
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          Thanks for the comment! Thanks to such cameras, I don’t read the article, but immediately turn to discussions and everything is clear.
      2. SRC P-15 31 August 2015 08: 25 New
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        As a court decision in the case of Vasilyeva, Mikhail Borisovich and Garry Kimovich were brought to light

        These ... (no words) stirred because they expected a completely different reaction of the Russian people to Vasilyeva’s release according to parole. They thought and hoped that the people would be outraged and throw their anger into the streets. But so far it’s not according to theirs: yes, people are outraged by the unjust release of Vasilyeva, but they are pouring out their indignation more and more in their circle of communication and in the media. They can’t get out of dissent on the street now, people have not forgotten the 90s and for the second time, enter the same river, there are few people who want to. From that, these ... are biting among themselves - from powerlessness to influence domestic politics in Russia.
        And with the case of Vasilyeva, I think, everything will become clear, just now, at the top, apparently, there is a hidden struggle. We are most likely not dedicated to much.
        1. Nick 31 August 2015 09: 38 New
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          Quote: SRC P-15
          And with the case of Vasilyeva, I think, everything will become clear, just now, at the top, apparently, there is a hidden struggle. We are most likely not dedicated to much.

          The fight may and is going on, but, strictly speaking, formally the decision on the parole of Vasilyeva was made without violating the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. We have adopted such laws. One for one hundred thousand rubles for four years of imprisonment, and the other for one hundred million for five years conditionally, and all this is within the framework of the Law. The State Duma needs to think, as it is already necessary to do a scale of punishment, the edges are very far away, an unprecedented scope for judges, and in terms of personal material well-being too.
          1. Dema46 31 August 2015 11: 00 New
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            No need to blame the laws. They have nothing to do with it. Corruption is to blame and personally the main one in the Kremlin.
            1. proletarian 31 August 2015 22: 32 New
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              Corruption, etc. etc. arise because the laws that are adopted can be interpreted diametrically opposite (due to inaccuracies, fuzziness, and sometimes even open contradictions).
            2. Volzhanin 1 September 2015 09: 22 New
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              Personally, the chief in the Kremlin, unfortunately, does not have the necessary powers. But the boyars are still doing what they want. Well, Putin doesn’t have this law to read this.
              But here, the people have a referendum!
              Have you voted for the referendum?
          2. kunstkammer 31 August 2015 12: 31 New
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            We are most likely not dedicated to much.

            I guess we’re not at all dedicated to anything. And what's going on under the carpet ... y! this secret is great and state! Only sometimes from there, from under the carpet come joyful yelping or crunching of someone's bones. But we are not supposed to know! We s - pleb s!
            One for one hundred thousand rubles for four years in prison

            I personally knew one poor fellow who, for one woman’s shoe stolen from the counter (one!), was in the cell for the second year. Without trial and sentence.
            No need to blame the laws. They have nothing to do with it.

            right! The one who writes such laws for himself is the one to do with it.
            1. Andrey Gladkikh 31 August 2015 18: 24 New
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              I don’t know the details of the case about the theft of one shoe. I do not exclude that this person has not the first criminal record and that other crimes were revealed during the investigation of the case. In general, it’s a popular myth that they plant “for a bucket of potatoes”. Anyone who is at least a little interested in the activities of our judicial system knows that they plant us when it is simply impossible not to plant. For crimes of small and medium gravity, persons without a criminal record in 90% of cases receive suspended sentences. Assigning a much milder sentence than the defendant deserves is ubiquitous, and putting in the little things is a myth.
          3. olimpiada15 31 August 2015 13: 15 New
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            In contrast to the case of Vasilyeva, I recall the case of the director of the house of culture, I’m sorry I forgot my name once on F, who went to the village as a music teacher and was asked to become director of a recreation center, who was accused of giving a bribe on the basis of a crunch of banknotes, i.e. there it was not clear whether there was a bribe at all, and there was no talk of any wealth at all, i.e. he didn’t do any damage at all, he was initially given a dozen planers, then it came to Putin’s intervention and a little time was spent. And against this background, the case of Vasilyeva looks very ugly, didn’t it be necessary to replenish the treasury of the same Moscow region when selling the property of the Ministry of Defense? People are shown disregard for the interests of the state for the sake of the personal interests of individuals. Yes, we know that they are all sawing in the black, but if all the participants are happy with the sharing of this cake, then why are the balamamut? The country now definitely does not need to add oil to the fire.
            1. cap54 31 August 2015 18: 46 New
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              I recall the case of the director of the house of culture, sorry I forgot my last name somehow on F
              His name was Ilya Farber, was sentenced in September 2011 to three years for giving permission to the organization of the contractor to continue repairing the house of culture, allegedly for a bribe. In fact, the repair continued with his personal money. And Farber only demanded that the contractor return his money. December 31, 2013 released on parole after serving 2/3 of the term.
          4. cap54 31 August 2015 18: 35 New
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            We have adopted such laws.
            The last current Criminal Code was adopted and entered into force in 1997. During this time, a lot of water flowed away and a bag of potatoes as it was at that time a bag, it remained to them ... but nobody could even guess the theft of billions of rubles at that time ... Our criminal law and the code must be changed together !!! And the punishment should be adequate to the time and ruble exchange rate !!! UK should change faster and tougher !!!
          5. twviewer 31 August 2015 19: 19 New
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            Vasilyeva accepted without violation of the Criminal Code. We have adopted such laws.

            Seriously? the judge makes a decision on the basis of the evidence, legislative and other rules of law, guided by his own convictions. Is it possible to convince a judge using his state position for personal gain? Who said no ?? It is legal???
            So you cannot decide anything by laws alone. The gentlemen are very comfortable and are not going to change anything. For it is paradise - to have everything and not to answer for anything. All this will end is known as, look at the security forces of the “weakling” Yanukovych, and with us EVERYTHING will be much more brutal and tougher.
        2. tomket 31 August 2015 10: 26 New
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          Quote: SRC P-15
          Yes, people are outraged by the unjust release of Vasilyeva, but they are pouring out their indignation more and more in their circle of communication and in the media. They will not be able to bring dissenters to the street now, people have not forgotten the 90 years and the second time, to enter the same river, there are few people who want to.

          Well, actually it turns out a little different. The guarantor did one thing on the head of the people. And the people, except for the righteous indignation in the network, have nothing against. In fact received a card blange. Russians are not dill! will endure! And they will start to be very indignant - they will intimidate. Do you want it in Ukraine ???
          1. Flexsus 31 August 2015 21: 00 New
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            The guarantor did one thing on the head of the people.

            And how did this “one thing” guarantee the head? Did he sign the pardon of Vasilieva? Was he reading the decree on parole? Also say that it was He who called the judge who was considering this case? The law makes such a decision. All formalities were completed. The decision has taken place. I want to ask dear interlocutors, and where were the state. When did the prosecutors agree to house arrest at the very beginning of the case? it was then necessary to seek a more severe restriction of freedom. Where were they and what did they do when considering the merits? When there was a debate between the parties, what did they do? When the court ruled, what did they do? Why didn’t they appeal the court decision? Or is the Guarantor to blame for this too? Maybe stop blaming everything on the President? Maybe you should start to fulfill your duties as a citizen of your own country? On every corner, everyone is shouting about the rights of a man and a citizen, but everyone is forgetting about the responsibilities of a man and a citizen. Maybe everyone should REMEMBER THEM AND BEGIN TO EXECUTE THEM?
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    3. siberalt 31 August 2015 10: 13 New
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      They always boil yeast if thrown into a sartir cesspool laughing There would be a nutrient medium.
    4. JACTUS RECTUS 31 August 2015 15: 03 New
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      And what did you want ??? Wanted an independent court ??? We got it !!! Independent from conscience, from the law, from morality, independent from the party and bosses !!! What I want is to create !!!! This is democracy and freedom. And I want to sell my independence to whom I want.
  2. Nord2015 31 August 2015 07: 04 New
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    Khodorkovsky remembered the Christian commandments: Our rights are based on Christian commandments and Christian philosophy.
    Here they are: TEN GOD'S COMMANDMENTS
    Contents:
    1. I am the Lord your God, and there are no other gods besides Me.
    2. Do not make yourself an idol and no image; do not worship and serve them.
    3. Remember not the name of the Lord your God in vain.
    4. Work and do all your work for six days, and the seventh is the day of rest, which you dedicate to the Lord your God.
    5. Honor your father and mother, may you be blessed on earth and long-lived.
    6. Thou shalt not kill.
    7. Do not commit adultery.
    8. Thou shalt not steal.
    9. Do not bear false witness.
    10. Covet nothing stranger.
    Even if I was too shy to refer to them, all the more so it is not a right but a duty. All that they see their rights everywhere.
    1. Revolver 31 August 2015 07: 56 New
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      Quote: Nord2015
      Our rights are based on Christian commandments and Christian philosophy.
      In fact, to be honest, even to ourselves, the Jewish commandments precede Jesus for many centuries. By the way, He strictly obeyed these commandments, which, alas, cannot be said of many who call themselves Christians, that is, His followers.
    2. Ezhaak 31 August 2015 09: 55 New
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      Quote: Nord2015
      All that they see their rights everywhere.

      It goes without saying. Everyone speaks about their rights, including me, my beloved. However, we categorically remain silent about our obligations to the state whose citizen are oats.
      Take Kasparov’s Civil Code as an example. Obtaining US citizenship, he, like everyone else, took the oath of allegiance to his new homeland, and actively fulfills everything written in that oath. A Russian citizen received citizenship by default and silently. He owes nothing to anyone! Did not pay attention to it?
      1. spiolist pas harp 1 September 2015 12: 55 New
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        Quote: Hedgehog
        A Russian citizen received citizenship by default and silently. He owes nothing to anyone! Did not pay attention to it?
        You give out orange behind salty. A person receives citizenship with a passport upon reaching adulthood. By the age of 16, a person can already make a completely conscious choice - the citizen of which country he wants and can become.
    3. 97110 31 August 2015 14: 24 New
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      Quote: Nord2015
      Khodorkovsky remembered the Christian commandments

      You bring
      Ten Commandments (Decalogue, or the Law of God) (Hebrew עשרת הורות, "Aseret-a-Dibrot" - letters. Ten sayings [1]; other Greek. Δέκα λόγοι, "decalogue" - letters. ten words) - precepts, ten basic laws that, according to the Pentateuch, were given to Moses by God himself, in the presence of the sons of Israel, on Mount Sinai on the fiftieth day after the Exodus from Egypt (Exodus 19: 10-25) [2].
    4. Egevich 31 August 2015 20: 53 New
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      Quote: Nord2015
      Khodorkovsky remembered the Christian commandments: Our rights are based on Christian commandments and Christian philosophy.
      Here they are: TEN GOD'S COMMANDMENTS
      Contents:
      1. I am the Lord your God, and there are no other gods besides Me.
      2. Do not make yourself an idol and no image; do not worship and serve them.
      3. Remember not the name of the Lord your God in vain.
      4. Work and do all your work for six days, and the seventh is the day of rest, which you dedicate to the Lord your God.
      5. Honor your father and mother, may you be blessed on earth and long-lived.
      6. Thou shalt not kill.
      7. Do not commit adultery.
      8. Thou shalt not steal.
      9. Do not bear false witness.
      10. Covet nothing stranger.
      Even if I was too shy to refer to them, all the more so it is not a right but a duty. All that they see their rights everywhere.


      I recalled the joke:
      the prophet Moses descends from Mount Sinai and says to the Jews gathered below:
      - I have two news for you, good and bad ... the good is that they agree on ten, and the bad is that adultery has entered ...
      1. Lunic 1 September 2015 05: 28 New
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        Quote: Egevich
        I recalled the joke:
        the prophet Moses descends from Mount Sinai and says to the Jews gathered below:
        - I have two news for you, good and bad ... the good is that they agree on ten, and the bad is that adultery has entered ...

        Well, if you read the history of the ancient Jewish people (Old Testament) carefully, you will see that in addition to several wives, wealthy Jews also had concubines ...
        Why am I? If you are my friend, having (literally and figuratively) several wives and a dozen more concubines still go to some kind of b $% (literary word), then this is a sin !!!
        In addition, you endanger venous diseases throughout your family. Bitselin was not yet on sale ..
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  3. Moore 31 August 2015 07: 09 New
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    And before you consider and discuss the opposition seething, it is necessary to ask an important question: if the court decision on the same Ms. Vasilyeva is a clear gift for the “irreconcilable opposition”, then there is also the force that was beneficial to make this gift? - It is so beneficial that judicial institutions did not even begin to calculate a factor that is one of the determining factors in countries with an electoral system, namely the rating of the current authorities

    The question is really important. Apparently, they did not simply not calculate, but directly ignored the absolutely expected reaction of the majority of the population to the court decision. Yes, before the election ...
    The ancient Roman principle of "Who benefits?" does not give a direct answer to the question.
    The answer to the question "Who is not profitable?" almost unambiguous: the one who, according to the people, is omnipotent and omnipotent. Yes, to Him.
  4. inkass_98 31 August 2015 07: 10 New
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    There was a viper toad ...
  5. Stoler 31 August 2015 07: 14 New
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    All This Chatter- SHE SHOULD SIT IN JAIL! And I perceive ostentatious UDO as a spit in the face of our own people (or by whom they consider us there). And to transfer arrows to Khodorkovsky and a hedgehog with him is already too much, so don’t wash yourself off.
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      As an officer, I fully support your opinion! And all the officers of our same opinion but we can not do anything unfortunately ((to fix this ...
  6. rotmistr60 31 August 2015 07: 15 New
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    once again raise the question (albeit often from behind the hill) that “only a change of government will save this country

    Yes, this question is almost always raised from behind a hill - it is safer. Another thing is what, or rather, who do they count on in the change of this power? For those who still support by their stupidity, either Navalny’s frostbite, or a bunch of so-called intellectuals who consider themselves honor and conscience ... They just hate Russia so much at the subconscious level that they absolutely do not want to look at it from the real side.
  7. aleks700 31 August 2015 07: 17 New
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    Vasilyeva sat instead of Serdyukov; everything that she was accused of was done by Serdyukov. And it was done with the knowledge of Putin, who does not consider embezzlement such a great sin and uses it to control his environment.
    So what? He is not right?
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      BMW 31 August 2015 07: 29 New
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      Quote: aleks700
      So what? He is not right?


      Right, this is a mutual guarantee of money.
      I just don’t understand the actions of the GDP, so to decapitate my image, and give “food” for “vultures”.
      The assessment is not loud. I just don’t understand GDP.
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        Or maybe the same GDP crook
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          In any case, he is not a doo.
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            Quote: Nikolai K
            In any case, he is not a doo.

            And among the highest crooks, in fact, there are no fools.
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          Or maybe the same GDP crook

          Why can it?
      2. Cat man null 31 August 2015 09: 19 New
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        I just don’t understand the actions of the GDP, so to decapitate my image, and give “food” for “vultures”.
        The assessment is not loud. I just don’t understand GDP.

        Um ..

        - there are three branches of government: legislative, executive, judicial
        - there is a principle of separation of powers
        - The President, strictly speaking, does not belong to any of the branches of government. It has functions close to the executive. But not to the judicial.

        Hence the conclusion: according to the current legislation, the President is not obliged (and indeed should not) to intervene in the decisions taken by the judiciary. To dismiss the prosecutor general, for example, he is quite able to yes

        The verdict and parole Vasilyeva - entirely in the competence of the judicial branch.

        But for some reason, the arrows are actively transferring to the President. Apparently, in the calculation, that "people picks up" and will go to indignation.

        That is, the calculation is mainly on the ignorance of people.

        Judging by the part of the comments here, on the forum - the calculation is completely unfounded wink
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          dmb 31 August 2015 10: 10 New
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          Great comment. Perfectly in the spirit of the article, regarding the responsibility of the authorities for the legality of the decisions taken. Let us leave alone a swar of two things, and turn to the current legislation, as the authors say, trying to clean the "white clothes of the Leader". The seagull was appointed at his recommendation, and Bastrykin and all the judges personally to them. Well, suppose (as the workers of the "dry cleaning" try to do), that they all turn out to be "liberals" who insidiously penetrated our holy law enforcement system, in order to discredit the bright image of the national guardian. And why then do these evil men continue to hold their posts? After all, they will continue to "substitute" him. But to rid the people of these villains who violate the law, their direct duty, as the Guarantor. It is very interesting that "dry cleaning workers" will write about this.
          1. Cat man null 31 August 2015 10: 32 New
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            The seagull was appointed on his proposal, and Bastrykin and all the judges personally to them

            So-so-so .. glimpses ..

            And who appointed the judge who made such a "noise" decision?

            Do you even know that in the state (as well as in the army, by the way) - everyone is responsible for his own plot? Nobody will blame the MO for messing up the fly somewhere, right? This is the prerogative of the company, the battalion commander, the regiment, further down the list .. and the MO on this list is the last (not the last), right?

            Under whose "command" is this bloke - to understand this. I'm talking about the judge now.

            And then - if you can’t figure it out - up the "ladder" .. this process takes some time, don’t you?

            So I suggest that you don’t yell like a victim (it’s not for you personally, it’s such a collective image), but just look at the process .. more precisely, at the result, since no one will show us the “process”. Why not show? - but not obliged because ..

            That's something like request

            PS:
            Quote: dmb
            And why then do these evil men continue to hold their posts?

            I assure you - the business of Serdyukov and Co on the scale of the country as a whole is a small trifle, it’s simply very much publicized. And "evil spirits", perhaps, not only harm, but also bring benefits .. Or maybe they just didn’t get their hands from the President ..

            PPS:
            Quote: dmb
            It is very interesting that "dry cleaning workers" will write about this.

            If this is for me, then by. I’m the same “TX” as you are a ballerina. It’s just that there’s no work now, so I’m sitting here, I suffer from garbage ..

            I - understand? wink
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              dmb 31 August 2015 11: 30 New
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              More than, therefore, about the "TX", this is for you. And I did not say at all that you are doing this trivially for money. Most likely by conviction. It’s interesting, and what do you think a judge, prosecutor and investigator should have deliberately violated the law in the interests of the offender, so that they can be smoothed out, and when will they reach the heart? Today, nothing seems to bother. Love for none of these people does not feel. By the way, it was he, the leader, who appointed the judge.
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                Quote: dmb
                intentionally breaking the law in the interests of the criminal,

                Etta .. Vasya ..

                - Where is the evidence of intentional violation of the law?

                Quote: dmb
                and when will the hearts reach the heart?

                Dear .. you are on a site where former (or even real) military men communicate .. you still do not understand that the Supreme .. has a little more work than some kind of serdyukoff

                Well, something like this laughing

                Are you somewhere funny if so laughing
            2. Marxist 31 August 2015 11: 47 New
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              Hello Roman! hi
              Of course, if such a circus were in the case of Petka Vaskin, who had stolen a gas trimmer from the warehouse of the management company of the city of Gadiukinsk, Olonets province, then, of course, there would be no questions to the president.

              But the Oboronservis case was resonant to the extreme.
              Putin could not fail to understand that, ultimately, the people's confidence in the authorities and his personal rating in the country also ultimately depend on his outcome.
              The FSB could not help but keep him informed.
              If the GDP did not suit the outcome of the case, he would have easily replaced the judge who was running the case against Vasilyeva, and forced the new one to reconsider the case with one telegram, as he once strongly recommended that the VGTRK editorial board should be returned to the program “On the most important thing” to Police Officer.

              But there is no president’s reaction - that means he was completely satisfied with the completion of the process.

              But he, as I said, had great opportunities for pressure on the investigation.

              Incidentally, a year ago, Serdyukov was appointed president by the post of director of the Federal Research Testing Center for Engineering.
              So do not tell tales about the fact that Putin does not see anything, does not know, the king is good, and the boyars are bad, after all, the "king" is not imprisoned.
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                Quote: Marxist
                Putin could not fail to understand that, in the final analysis, the people's confidence in the government and his personal rating in the country depend on his outcome.

                No could
                Quote: Marxist
                The FSB could not help but keep him informed.

                Since I don’t have any relation to this office except my acquaintances - IMHO - she keeps this matter under control and keeps ..

                Quote: Marxist
                But there is no president’s reaction - that means he was completely satisfied with the completion of the process

                Dear Marxist, I assure you that for Putin this whole bugger is just another fly that flies into the kitchen for some reason .. there are now much more serious matters there ... much more yes

                Quote: Marxist
                But he, as I said, had great opportunities for pressure on the investigation

                I also have the opportunity to drive the fly away .. or even - scary to say - completely drive it away .. from this world .. and?

                If I need to do something that this particular fly does not interfere with, what do you think I will do? Is it really a fly? laughing

                Quote: Marxist
                Incidentally, a year ago, Serdyukov was appointed president by the post of director of the Federal Research Testing Center for Engineering.

                Honorary link, IMHO .. where is this body now?

                Quote: Marxist
                So do not tell tales about the fact that Putin does not see anything, does not know, the king is good, and the boyars are bad, after all, the "king" is not imprisoned.

                Colleagues .. I would be interested to talk on this topic with people who managed projects (enterprises), in which more than 10000 people are involved.

                All the rest - put the cons and lie on the couch evenly.

                That's something like yes
            3. Uncle Joe 31 August 2015 13: 06 New
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              Quote: Cat Man Null
              And who appointed the judge who made such a "noise" decision?

              Well, and by whom?

              http://publication.pravo.gov.ru/Document/View/0001201310280035?index=30&rangeSiz
              e = 1
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                Quote: Uncle Joe
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                And who appointed the judge who made such a "noise" decision?

                Well, and by whom?

                Uncle Joe, never held you for an idiot .. but, hike, in vain ..

                You play cheap .. you don’t know how such documents are prepared, how they are signed, and who are the real ones responsible for the candidatures of the same judges, for example?

                If not, my sympathy ..
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                  TWR 1 September 2015 00: 35 New
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                  Uncle Joe, never held you for an idiot .. but, hike, in vain.

                  You are in vain upset. Do not forget Uncle Joe is a dogmatic. He is so arranged. It’s hard for him in another way.
                  Uncle Joe, no offense. Dogmatic, this is not an abusive word. This is, like, a feature. tongue
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                    Do not forget Uncle Joe dogmatic

                    And here I am - a pragmatist, practical .. so what? laughing

                    Quote: TWR
                    You're upset in vain

                    No, not that .. I’m personally just funny laughing
                    1. TWR
                      TWR 1 September 2015 00: 48 New
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                      No, not that .. I’m personally just funny

                      Well, why. Personally, some of the Uncle Joe information I get to the mountain is quite interesting. You cannot refuse him erudition. Creative processing of the "baggage of knowledge" is not visible. It's a pity. However, I already mentioned this.
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                        Quote: TWR
                        Creative processing of the "baggage of knowledge" is not visible. It's a pity.

                        Exactly no
                2. Uncle Joe 1 September 2015 03: 32 New
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                  you do not know how such documents
                  It seems that you are not aware that without looking at the document you signed (whether it is an agreement with a bank, a cop protocol, or something else) - this is only your problem.
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                    Quote: Uncle Joe
                    It seems that you are not aware that without looking at the document you signed (whether it is an agreement with a bank, a cop protocol, or something else) - this is only your problem.
                    Umm .. Vasya .. how many people did you really control in your short life? (give maximum, only then be ready to answer, yeah ..)
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                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    you do not know how such documents
                    It seems that you are not aware that without looking at the document you signed (whether it is an agreement with a bank, a cop protocol, or something else) - this is only your problem.

                    Looking at any document that concerns me personally, I’m in the know.

                    When they brought something there for signature, I look at the list of performers, yeah ..

                    something like that .. uncle fool
                    1. Uncle Joe 1 September 2015 16: 56 New
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                      Quote: Cat Man Null
                      how many people are you
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                      Looking at any document that concerns me personally
                      My dear man - stop wagging your ass.

                      Below you asked a perfectly fair question about formal violations (it’s right - any law, like law in general, is completely formal), and thereby plunged into a warm, damp formalism, from which you can now not even try to get out - it will not work, and wandering with words will not will help.

                      Is there a signature? There is, and so the person in charge is determined.

                      Did the responsible person respond to the violations? No, and that means the person in charge has not fulfilled his duties prescribed by the constitution, and non-fulfillment or violation of the provisions of the constitution is a crime.

                      The question is closed.
                      1. Cat man null 1 September 2015 22: 35 New
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                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        Is there a signature? There is, and so the person in charge is determined.

                        Did the responsible person respond to the violations? No, and that means the person in charge has not fulfilled his duties prescribed by the constitution, and non-fulfillment or violation of the provisions of the constitution is a crime.

                        The question is closed.

                        Nah .. for me, when I worked like that - it was a question for the ladder.

                        Yes, my signature. Then I look who prepared the document, and strain them (all), respectively.

                        What they do there about it is stupidly not my business. There is a deadline for the execution of the order. By this time - either there is a result, or - people have failed, a revision is required with a file (by me).

                        Where did the people who could not cope with it go - yes to me exactly.

                        Something like this. At the same time, I repeat - the maximum project that I have had - there were people, in sum, a little bit laughing
                      2. Uncle Joe 2 September 2015 01: 13 New
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                        Next i I look who prepared the document and strain them (all), respectively
                        As required.

                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        Did the responsible person respond to the violations? No, and that means the person in charge has not fulfilled his duties prescribed by the constitution
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                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        Quote: Cat Man Null

                        Next, I look who prepared the document, and strain them (all), respectively
                        As required.

                        And who told you that this has not been done?

                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        What they do there about it is stupidly not my business. There is a deadline for the execution of the order. By this time - either there is a result, or - people have failed, a revision is required with a file (by me).

                        Here I am about it exactly

                        Uncle Joe, you move out, hike sad
                      4. Uncle Joe 2 September 2015 12: 24 New
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                        And who told you that this has not been done?
                        Judges and prosecutors - tightly seated in their former places, as well as convicts - seated where they should sit very tightly.

                        Here I am about it exactly
                        Bgg ...

                        Qualification (there is clearly 159.3.4), maintenance under subscription (people go to jail for much less - the same Smetanova spent several months in jail), unreasonably mild sentence (part 4 - up to 10 years), ignoring the fact that income does not correspond to expenses (already a reason for the investigation), Serdyukov’s obvious otmaz and his amnesty ...

                        Well, just exactly about it wassat


                        Uncle Joe, you move out, hike
                        That is not.

                        It’s just that you are intensely screwing the booty, so it seems to you that the apron has gone.
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                        Judges and prosecutors - tightly seated in their former places, as well as convicts - seated where they should sit very tightly.

                        They all told you this personally, or do you think so? laughing

                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        Qualification...

                        You know .. I personally saw when a person, who was breaking a dozen, sat down at 2.5, like .. after a half and a half went on parole ... and?

                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        Just you hard booty twist

                        These are your erotic fantasies. I'm currently busy .. a little different things laughing
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      About hands and benefit, it is very interesting.
  • Dema46 31 August 2015 11: 06 New
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    They bring him down because he 100% made the decision to appoint a furniture merchant to the post of Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation! is this not enough for you? Let the ex-son-in-law of one of the people close to him. Poor Vova cried a lot when they did UDO Vasilyeva, and Dima-iPhone sobbed from impotence ???
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      He was blamed on him because he 100% made the decision to appoint a furniture merchant as Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation

      Which "furniture merchant" dispersed tries all Arbat VO + a little more.

      IMHO, for this and appointed.

      The army received a brand new leadership. IMHO.

      What "furniture merchant" was not required to know. He was just played in the dark. Again - IMHO.
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        TWR 1 September 2015 00: 17 New
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        Quote: Cat Man Null
        The army received a brand new leadership. IMHO.

        And in general, at least somehow it became like an army.
        Quote: Cat Man Null
        What "furniture merchant" was not required to know. He was just played in the dark. Again - IMHO.

        I don’t think so. Actually not a man from the street.
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          And in general, at least somehow it became like an army.

          Agree

          Quote: TWR
          I don’t think so. Actually not a man from the street.

          So .. I wrote a hundred times In My Hamble Opinion there request
    2. Cat man null 2 September 2015 21: 45 New
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      Poor Vova cried a lot when they did UDO Vasilyeva, and Dima-iPhone sobbed from impotence ???

      Vasya .. when you make decisions, class like Dimon and Vova do it right now - then we will look at you. With interest yes
  • 97110 31 August 2015 14: 33 New
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    Judging by the part of the comments here, on the forum - the calculation is completely unfounded

    "The norms of morality were replaced by the norms of law." The thought is not mine, but it fits your thoughts perfectly. And some commentators proceed from the fact that the war is already underway. And in this war it is decided whether we live (part of the commentators), or die. With "children and household". Absolutely, without a trace, with the destruction of memory die. Therefore, any act that reduces the defenses of the homeland of part of the commentators, this part of the commentators blames HIS CHIEF COMMANDING. Because defeat in this war means our death, the death of our Motherland. And it is the same for us, as interpreted by the rules of law, written by the most talented ENEMIES of OUR PEOPLE.
    1. Cat man null 31 August 2015 23: 00 New
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      Norms of morality replaced by norms of law

      These are not "moral standards." This is the overthrow in ... okay, brains ..

      NOT IMHO

      “Ignorance of the law does not cancel responsibility for it” - is that familiar?
      Illiteracy (in the laws, the structure of the State in which you, live, further on the list) in the conditions of an information attack does not negate the fact that you are an idiot, at least .. yes, no, I don’t know ??
  • asiat_61 31 August 2015 23: 30 New
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    But our president has the right to run trains!
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      But our president has the right to run trains!

      And the name of your President is Yakunin .. only he was fired here recently ..

      Well kotochki will launch, ???
  • MIKHAN 31 August 2015 07: 19 New
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    Khodorkovsky remembered the Christian commandments: Our rights are based on Christian commandments and Christian philosophy.

    The Talmud for him is the main guide there all their "commandments"!
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      Not the Talmud. and the criminal code
  • vovanpain 31 August 2015 07: 20 New
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    If a simple hard worker steals a bag of potatoes, he will sit in full and without any UDO, atut ....
    1. sv68 31 August 2015 07: 40 New
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      .vovanpain-slip her sack of a ribbon and say that she stole it!
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        She will damn the floors for 2 days, sit in a 13-room cell and leave for parole.
  • Egoza 31 August 2015 07: 25 New
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    Well, if mercy leaped, then let Kvachkova be released ahead of schedule. For balance, so to speak.
  • TVM - 75 31 August 2015 07: 25 New
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    Liberals began to fuss. Crisis, sanctions - seize the moment. In all events they are trying to find the weakness of the authorities and Putin personally, to enlist the support of elites. On the one hand, speaking of honesty and justice, and on the other, they promise for loyalty to allow them to steal. It is very time to give the paws of this pack and their patrons. How many more revolutions and coups it is necessary for the authorities to understand the difference between the opposition and the fifth column, which must be withdrawn like cockroaches!
  • 3 Gorynych 31 August 2015 07: 26 New
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    "De facto, a situation has developed where one of the most respected representatives of Russian civil society offers indulgence to people who took part in the construction of the existing regime in Russia" - this is what Kasparov said, I didn’t know that Khodor ... is in Russia " most authority "!!! Only the hat in front of him still has to be removed ....! One word - leberasts ....!
  • parusnik 31 August 2015 07: 28 New
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    But by and large, something needs to be done with our Themis ... I decided ... A certain oligarch, a ferry and a man, filed a lawsuit in the Arbitration Court of the Krasnodar Territory that the AMP Tamani should make a discount on the collection of ship dues, freight ferry .. they say it is a passenger ferry, and wagons, freight and personal vehicles are the personal belongings of passengers ... But could not buy the Krasnodar Arbitration..and the Southern Federal District. The court made a fair decision that this ferry is freight .. A similar claim , the aforementioned oligarch filed with the Moscow Arbitration Court, the Federal State Unitary Enterprise Rosmorport and the Moscow court in all instances, ruled that this ferry is passenger .. The paradox for the administration ... for the Maritime Administration it is a freight ferry, for a state-owned enterprise passenger .. Pavel, you say. .ah!
  • Schulz 31 August 2015 08: 02 New
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    that "only a change of power will save this country." For whom they suggest changing? - Well, it’s so clear - on ourselves ...
  • Russia 31 August 2015 08: 27 New
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    Maybe I'm wrong?
    GDP does not interfere with litigation. This is fraught with wild cries of "(n) the opposition" and human rights activists. But he made it possible to "make a mistake" in the current system of justice. Moreover, it’s obvious. Now it’s a move. I hope so.

    Not yet evening...
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      Quote: Rossi-Ya
      Maybe I'm wrong?
      GDP does not interfere with litigation. This is fraught with wild cries of "(n) the opposition" and human rights activists. But he made it possible to "make a mistake" in the current system of justice. Moreover, it’s obvious. Now it’s a move. I hope so.

      Not yet evening...


      An interesting idea, and it is not without reason, if we take into account the article about P’s actions to “blow up” the West, and then “soothe” and “distracting” moves. And he will correct the "mistake" ... Later. At other participants (the "head" Nano has already run, who managed). hi
      1. Kuzyakin15 31 August 2015 13: 09 New
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        But doesn’t it seem to you that the system just works - we don’t give up yours!
        And do not look for ingenious moves of genital plans, where they did not exist.
        There is one plan — the gray mass should sit from bell to bell. Which has no money for expensive lawyers and bribery of judges and law enforcement officers. The example of Vasilyeva is not even the hundredth case.
  • Million 31 August 2015 08: 44 New
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    Jew and Azerbaijani - Russian opposition!
  • surrozh 31 August 2015 08: 48 New
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    "But who will Serdyukov plant, he’s Zubkov’s son-in-law, read the Internet, village!" - paraphrasing the famous Slant from "Gentlemen of Fortune".
    Note to the novelist: the cardinal’s daughter is crazy about the corporal and marries him. The cardinal is crazy about his daughter and moves the corporal up the ranks to the Minister of Defense. The corporal (already the Minister of Defense) is madly in love with his subordinate and wants to get a divorce. The cardinal initiates a financial investigation - and the distraught corporal is "left" in the shade, the unhappy lover is in prison (for a couple of days), the daughter is happy again, the people are silent.
  • exalex2 31 August 2015 08: 51 New
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    A whole generation of underserved has grown. Now it’s so easy to cope. Until there is a plan where we are going and what we want to achieve, we will march on the spot, "printing" the step. But there was no plan as there wasn’t .. The management is "manual" (((
    1. WINovikov 31 August 2015 09: 39 New
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      Manual or tamed?
    2. 97110 31 August 2015 14: 44 New
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      Quote: exalex2
      then we’ll march in place, “printing” the step.

      Quote: exalex2
      A whole generation of underserved
      AND BENT FROM THE ARMY. We do not know how to build a walk, all the more so by "printing a step". Look around you.
  • Pavel Vereshchagin 31 August 2015 08: 54 New
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    If a normal society is extremely displeased with a court decision in the case of the thief Vasilyeva then this does not mean that it agrees with these renegades and traitors like Kasparov, Kasyanov, Khodorkovsky, Navalny, etc.
  • vobels 31 August 2015 09: 06 New
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    “We need to seek not just sitting in Vasilyeva’s prison, but fair, legal laws and creating a system for their unconditional execution.” Well it is bent! Did he even understand what he wrote? And at least one example cited "fair laws and their enforcement."
  • Apsit 31 August 2015 09: 11 New
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    now also requiring “unfreezing" accounts for a total of 300 million rubles,
    Let him first justify this money as earned by overwork, and then demand it.
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    HAM 31 August 2015 09: 14 New
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    Now Vasiliev as Khodorkovsky will become an “OPPOSITION”, he will leave for Nice and will weep for the broken honor of the “prisoner of conscience” ..
    1. Amurets 31 August 2015 09: 17 New
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      And what was her honor?
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          HAM 31 August 2015 09: 41 New
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          Yes, in general, it is necessary to call the "opposition" by their proper names, otherwise it sounds indecent ....
  • Loner_53 31 August 2015 09: 21 New
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    Well, they otmazali Vasilyeva, straight .. m they’ll do a saint soon. But in fact, all this says that the tops do not care about the opinion of the people. They’ll say ... in the kitchen and silence. sad
  • SergeySeverny 31 August 2015 09: 23 New
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    all this fuss in a dunghill ... causes a steady gag reflex, no more
  • anip 31 August 2015 09: 27 New
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    There is such a thing: mercy. Our rights are based on Christian commandments and Christian philosophy. Charity is an integral part of them. Keeping a person behind bars only for the sake of other things, a person who no longer threatens anyone and has made up for his part of the damage, is merciless. The desire to "punish" only distracts the attention of society from the true causes and the true culprits.

    Right Has returned more than 260 million, still writes about the lifting of the arrest of 300 million. I wonder HOW was she able to EARN such money? If she even worked for 10 years, then this is 56 million rubles a year !!! And this is without taking into account clothing, food, services, etc. etc. How can I make that kind of money ??? What is her official salary?
    And about the mercilessness of holding a person behind bars: the same judge who released Vasilyev by parole, sentenced a year and a half ago a person to steal a plane, of course, a plane is a much more serious crime.
  • atamankko 31 August 2015 09: 33 New
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    The vomiting of the opposition.
  • Cap.Morgan 31 August 2015 09: 37 New
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    The question arises, why did the Serdyukov case arise at all? Why wasn’t he let down on the brakes? It would seem simpler, but no .... The intrigues of the opposition? And not that one, a puppet, created to please the West, but a real one, with a billionth coin and its special services?
    As for justice, take an example from America. There pepper type Mavrodi got 100 years old and does not blather. And Hodor, by American standards, came out early. They kill killers and people who have committed resonant economic crimes, and for many many years. Everything was invented long before us.
  • Uncle Joe 31 August 2015 09: 39 New
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    It turns out that the court decision on the same Vasilyeva also became a kind of litmus test for the “implacable opposition”.
    Yeah, we’ll write about the “opposition”, about the president as a dead man ...

    19.1. All are equal before the law and the court.
    2. The state guarantees equality of rights and freedoms person and citizen independently by gender, race, nationality, language, origin, property and official position, place of residence, religion, belief, belonging to public associations, as well as other circumstances. Any form of restriction of the rights of citizens on the grounds of social, racial, national, linguistic or religious affiliation is prohibited.

    80.1. The President of the Russian Federation is the head of state.
    2. The President of the Russian Federation is the guarantor Constitution Russian Federation, the rights and freedoms of man and citizen. In accordance with the procedure established by the Constitution of the Russian Federation, he takes measures to protect the sovereignty of the Russian Federation, its independence and state integrity, ensures the coordinated functioning and interaction of state authorities.

    Guarantor - the one who or that provides implementation, execution of something.
    1. Cat man null 31 August 2015 10: 01 New
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      I repeat, perhaps:

      Quote: Cat Man Null
      - there are three branches of government: legislative, executive, judicial
      - there is a principle of separation of powers
      - The President, strictly speaking, does not belong to any of the branches of government. It has functions close to the executive. But not to the judicial.

      Hence the conclusion: according to the current legislation, the President is not obliged (and indeed should not) to intervene in the decisions taken by the judiciary. To dismiss the prosecutor general, for example, he is quite able to do so ..

      The verdict and parole Vasilyeva - entirely in the competence of the judicial branch.

      But for some reason, the arrows are actively transferring to the President.

      Uncle, any comments? wink

      Quote: Uncle Joe
      19.1. All are equal before the law and the court.

      And where in the case of Vasilyeva (formally, yes) - violations of this principle? Formally (by law, that is) - they are NOT.

      Quote: Uncle Joe
      80.1. The President of the Russian Federation is the head of state.
      2. The President of the Russian Federation is the guarantor of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the rights and freedoms of man and citizen

      ... which, however, does not mean that the President MUST poke his nose into any hole, right? wink

      Quote: Uncle Joe
      A guarantor is one who or something that ensures the implementation, execution of something.

      Right Namely, this is what:

      Quote: Uncle Joe
      In accordance with the procedure established by the Constitution of the Russian Federation, he takes measures to protect the sovereignty of the Russian Federation, its independence and state integrity, ensures the coordinated functioning and interaction of state authorities.

      Where is the President’s duty to intervene in court decisions? Strictly speaking, he doesn’t have such a right (it’s clear that there is an opportunity. But he has no right. And there is no obligation either).

      Something like this .. Uncle, any comments? wink
      1. Uncle Joe 31 August 2015 13: 40 New
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        Quote: Cat Man Null
        any comments?
        Is that - stupidity, but no more.

        And where in the case of Vasilyeva (formally, yes) - violations of this principle?
        Qualification (there is clearly 159.3.4), maintenance under subscription (people go to jail for much less - the same Smetanova spent several months in jail), unreasonably mild sentence (part 4 - up to 10 years), ignoring the fact that income does not correspond to expenses (this is the reason for the investigation), is Serdyukov’s obvious otmaz and his amnesty supply enough?

        which, however, does not mean that the President MUST poke his nose into any hole, right?
        The President is obliged to guarantee the constitution, as a result of which he is obliged to poke his nose where there are obvious violations.

        Right Namely, this is what:
        Yeah - and 136 more articles.

        Where is the President’s duty to intervene in court decisions?
        We look at article 19, look around us, reread the definition of the term "guarantor".
  • VSkilled 31 August 2015 09: 44 New
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    Another couple of Jews staged another "brawl" regarding the "further fate of unhappy Russia."

    I'm only interested in one question: how long will THEY poke their long hook-shaped noses out of their business?

    We need a "law banning the profession" (it has long been valid, by the way, in a number of countries in the West). Representatives of diasporas with their national entities outside the state should not have the right to engage in political activity and big business in this state.

    Otherwise, it will be "like in Ukraine." Solid "kalomoyshi" in power, and, as a consequence - the permanent "alles kaput".
  • Sergejluf 31 August 2015 09: 45 New
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    If the "system" could not prove how much money Vasiliev grabbed? That decision on parole simply matches the letter of the law. The question is: how to make the "system" comply with even those laws that exist now.
  • Socialism 2.0 31 August 2015 09: 45 New
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    The country must know its Heroes
    1. The point 31 August 2015 11: 24 New
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      Probably got a good vacation. recourse
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        I repeat. I am interested in the career growth of this judge and most importantly, he was the first and only one to take up this matter or there were those who refused to conduct it. I would like to believe that they were. Indeed, in order to release according to parole the convict must fully admit his guilt! And as far as we know, Serdyukovka (Vasilyeva) pleaded not guilty. And why didn’t she wait a ten-day period at the camp, but immediately banished after the issuance of the notice? After all, she was not amnestied, namely, released on parole. Probably because the poetess, also to me, Agnia Barto. Toad went on a hike to the campaign, for so many years he had been dragging a robe, albeit a mild one, and this shit was just like that from the camp. Either our Father’s Tsar has something hidden in his sleeve again, or he doesn’t need this navel ride. There are other controls, even if they understand. And then He will ask them later. And another question, is Enta Vasiliev a bearer of state secrets? If so, was it possible to shove it into the community zone. Who knows or what brothers think, share your opinion.
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    After the author pointed out: there is no third way, even if the average person uninitiated in this matter (that is, I) knows that there are always a ton of options, I still read to the end ... the question is for the author. What is the article about?
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    With these clowns, of course, everything is clear and true. But the liberation of the thief Vasilyeva in this way and the untouchability of figures like Serdyukov is a pure setup am
  • Standard Oil 31 August 2015 10: 16 New
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    It’s strange, such a reaction to the release of this Vasilyeva, and that someone thought it would be different? It would be surprising if they had been kept at least by those unfortunate five years, and in VIP conditions. I’m the only thing that is not clear why they did it before the election? I understand that there will be no fair elections, but anyway, so rude to the public, forgive me for cheating. If there was a real opposition in Russia, then it would be a royal gift for it, and the existing government would fly off instantly. And what’s most interesting, that in the elections, people will go and vote again for whom? Correctly for the party "Rogues and Thieves" and let someone say that "United Russia" is not a party of crooks and thieves. This person can spit in the face, boldly. For he or consciously lies, or clinical d.bil. And for some reason people are offended when they call them bail. But forgive it, it is. Although it’s not even annoying, I see the country is rich, someone stole 300 million rubles from the budget there. some kind of - // - appealing Minister of Defense (what is he there I didn’t know in it, in the end it’s much cheaper to remove a whore), we have money for her, and we don’t have money for sick children, and for 300 million rubles you can probably cure everyone. I don’t believe God, and I don’t believe that after death there Vasiliev will face an incorruptible court and all matters, and she will die a happy person in her bed, so I would like someone to stab her or something. This person would become a hero. Already about Serdyukov, it seems they found the extreme one and so they got it all over the world. And why then blame Ukraine? What can we offer them Serdyukov or Vasilyeva? They have their own, and more than that they have nothing.
  • Kuzyakin15 31 August 2015 10: 33 New
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    Quote: Nick
    Quote: SRC P-15
    And with the case of Vasilyeva, I think, everything will become clear, just now, at the top, apparently, there is a hidden struggle. We are most likely not dedicated to much.

    The fight may and is going on, but, strictly speaking, formally the decision on the parole of Vasilyeva was made without violating the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. We have adopted such laws. One for one hundred thousand rubles for four years of imprisonment, and the other for one hundred million for five years conditionally, and all this is within the framework of the Law. The State Duma needs to think, as it is already necessary to do a scale of punishment, the edges are very far away, an unprecedented scope for judges, and in terms of personal material well-being too.

    The laws are like that. But the main thing is that judges are one for a couple of bags of potato for 5 years and without any parole, and the one who can share with the judges a lemon, another, conditional. Corruption, banal corruption + the right of the strong, and therefore the telephone right. And the laws written for the majority of the spark mass, the electorate, and there is no need to dress the “guarantor” in white clothes. Like he didn’t know, they want to substitute him, etc. He has enough effective levers of power to protect the legitimacy and reputation of the president. And if this is not done, it means that such legitimacy is needed by those in power.
  • unknown 31 August 2015 10: 48 New
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    I'm only interested in one question: how long will THEY poke their long hook-shaped noses out of their business?

    A Jew is translated “immigrant”, without any nationality. Any immigrant to another locality is Jewish.
    Europe is a country (side) of immigrants.
    Jew-translated "ideological."
    External type: almond-shaped eyes, aquiline nose, dark wavy hair - this is the so-called "Armenian type", that is, Armenians.

    After WWII, a special study was carried out in Germany, according to the results of which it was found out that the percentage of blue-eyed and blond among the so-called German Germans was much higher than among the so-called German-Aryans.
    Shlomo Zand, a professor at Tel Aviv University, in his book Who Invented the Jewish People, concluded that Jewish people are the result of proletarianism.
    And if you recall one more word of J.I.D., then everything will fall into place.
    Although this word has a negative connotation, it was originally called, or almost so (consonant play), the estate of merchants.
    An artificial nation that arose from the estate, which managed to privatize a piece of ancient history, and convince (buy) the rest of the world.
  • The point 31 August 2015 11: 20 New
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    Class! Give mercy to Khodorkovsky! Not in a divine way with Vasilyeva? What about the commandment "Do not steal"? Doesn’t he know, MBH about such existence? Still would. After all, it was not stolen from his wallet, but from ours, which we fill with our taxes. The only thing that outrages is UDO Vasilyeva. And someone else says that she was made a switchman. On the other hand, if not one Vasilyeva was released, but with accomplices, it would be more offensive. Long live our justice, the most humane justice in the world!
  • akudr48 31 August 2015 11: 57 New
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    The author made a difficult attempt to prove that the Russian government in the fight against the liberal opposition was simply forced, as it were, not to put Serdyukov and practically release Vasilyev. And did not prove it.

    The decision on parole for Vasilyeva and Serdyukov’s lack of jurisdiction is not a litmus test for the opposition, as the author claims, but the completely expected and only possible option of punishment for his socially, for born thieves and corrupt officials, in other words, for high-ranking thieves.

    And you can do without a piece of paper, a litmus test, since completely different pieces of paper are at stake, greenbacks, in considerable quantities.

    It is not necessary to drag into this mockery of justice this long-running opposition as well, by its presence it justifies the actions of the authorities with its laws for their own and completely different laws for ordinary citizens of Russia.

    The authorities want people to believe that Kasparov is such a terrible revolutionary, as well as a born Maidaner and there is danger from him, fear the citizens of a chess player, not Serdyukov, melamed, Yevtushenkov and other ruling explicit and secret oligarchs.

    The opposition is diligently inflated by the government itself in order to write off on it its own insignificance, which is manifested by the authorities in almost all directions.

    They can do nothing but stealing.
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    The Chocolate Pig herself let them go there in order to have a reason not to observe Minsk in terms of the special status of Donbass.
  • Obliterator 31 August 2015 12: 35 New
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    Quote: captain
    Serdyukov was not imprisoned just because he has a lot of information and not only defense value. That's all. And do not write articles about his amazing ability to "become an agent of Russia's interests."

    Nonsense. For persons with access to information constituting state. secret, lawsuits are closed to the press and random people. And they will not sit in a regular cell with urkagans. If there was a desire, they would be brought to justice. And once again it has been proved to the people that the fight against corruption in the Russian Federation is a farce.
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    Quote: flSergius
    The Chocolate Pig herself let them go there in order to have a reason not to observe Minsk in terms of the special status of Donbass.


    Hey, why did my comment go to the wrong topic?!?!?! I wrote in the topic about blocked thieves' government quarter in Kiev.
  • Yugra 31 August 2015 12: 52 New
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    Why are both still alive. They walk, crap wherever they fall. They pour slop on the country. With both, talk alone through the sight ...
  • Dry_T-50 31 August 2015 12: 52 New
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    Whose cow would mumble, but Khodorkovsky would rather be silent
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    But in general, let this Vasilieva follow in the wake of Khodorkovsky to France, here she’s fucking not needed, there wasn’t enough revolution for the scapegoat
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    The investigation, which lasted more than two years, about four hundred volumes of the criminal case, each of which, like “War and Peace”, I don’t know how many thousands of witnesses went through the case of Vasilyeva, first charged 3 billion losses, then they saved up to 260 million, which she paid instantly, and just as quickly, defense attorneys demanded to unfreeze about 400 million of the arrested money, already earned by hard work and to be returned to the mistress. Why so much effort and money in money, probably more spent by the state than the amount of damage accrued to it, in the end, to come to such a sad result on the basis of the accomplished, and ridiculous in the bottom line, - the mountain gave birth to a mouse .. .It is beneficial for someone who is not, I can only say one thing - the people remained in the cold, and this is no longer funny ...
  • press officer 31 August 2015 13: 19 New
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    Quote: 2.0 Socialism
    The country must know its Heroes


    Well, she paid him a hundred pounds to see .... So he must be asked, why did he suddenly make such a decision ?! Judging by his age ... experience for such a resonant case is not enough ..
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      Quote: press attache
      experience for such a resonant case is not enough

      A call from above is the whole experience.
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    Just do not need mercy (to the question of Vasilyeva and her parole). It seems that it wasn’t from the pocket of the taxpayer that all these millions were stolen. Being nice at someone else’s expense, and not forgetting yourself - this is her credo in life.
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    I look, everyone is reasoning like that in the case of Vasilyeva, as if they had carefully examined all the volumes of the case.
  • chelovektapok 31 August 2015 16: 31 New
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    There are still shortcomings in the Russian FSIN system. The citizens did not sit in a bad chamber with tubes. So they are vomiting. In a normal situation, they would have no other problems besides health and how to sew up the sphincter. 1,5 years. While forward feet would not be carried.
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    "" one of the most respected representatives of Russian civil society ""
    This is Hodor. Who considers him authoritative - let him spend his time. This will be fair. Let them be several thousand - there they belong. Together with the opponent Kasparov.