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"Bastion": a reliable guard of the sea coast

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"Bastion": a reliable guard of the sea coast



In March, 2014, the coastal missile system "Bastion" became the "shield" of the Crimea, forcing the squadron of NATO warships to move away from the coast of the peninsula

After the demonstration of the television documentary “Crimea. Way to the Homeland ”, many even skeptical Russian viewers became more proud to talk about our weapons. And the reason was the phrase of Vladimir Putin about a certain weapon that scared NATO warships. According to the president, it was the Bastion coastal missile system. Putin explained that "so far no one has such weapons" and "this is perhaps the most efficient coastal complex in the world today." After the complex was transferred from the mainland and deployed in the United States for space exploration in the Crimea, the group of NATO warships in the Black Sea sharply went away from Russian shores.

According to media reports, the movement of the Bastion launcher was recorded on the night from 8 to 9 in March in Sevastopol. One of the reasons for this was the ultimatum of US Secretary of State John Kerry, made the day before to Russia. It allowed the possibility of increasing NATO military forces and non-diplomatic actions of the American side. The appearance of "Bastion" in the Crimea became a "cold shower" and noticeably restrained Washington’s belligerent fervor.

The American side was well aware of the coastal missile system "Bastion", deployed on the Russian Black Sea coast long before the events in the Crimea. Therefore, only a suicide could give an order to NATO ships to pass the Straits of the Black Sea, go to the shores of the Crimea and begin an operation to "force" Moscow to something. The Bastion cruise missile is capable of hitting a target at a distance of 500 km. In other words, having started from the region of Sevastopol, to fly over the Black Sea, to “get” a target near the coast of Turkey and make a hole in its side the size of a tram car. For comparison: the distance between Sevastopol and Istanbul in a straight line is slightly more than 552 km.

What is this "miracle weapon" that has become a reliable missile "shield" for the Crimea?

History create


The operational-tactical anti-ship missile system “Bastion” with the “Onyx” missile (“Yakhont” - export version) was developed on the basis of a government decree (from 27.08.1981) at the NPO Mashinostroeniya (Reutov) under the direction of the general designer Herbert Efremov to replace the Redut and Frontier. The complex is universal on the carrier and can be placed on submarines, surface ships and boats, airplanes and ground launchers.

The ground version (from the TsKB Titan) of a self-propelled launcher (SPU) suggested placing three unified anti-ship missiles (RCC) in transport-launch containers (TLC) on the MAZ-543 chassis. From 2008, the main version was the SPU K-340P (Tekhnosoyuzproekt LLC, Belarus) on the MZKT-7930 Astrolog chassis with two TPKs that were based on the ground when fired. The general concept of the application of the complex remained unchanged.

The 3М55 Onyx (Yakhont) supersonic unified anti-ship missile has a trans-horizon shooting range and a variable flight profile, operates on the principle of shot-and-forget, unified on carriers and barely noticeable for modern radar reconnaissance equipment.

After successful state tests in the area of ​​Cape Iron Horn (Taman) in 2010, the complex entered service with the Russian army. Onyx (Yakhont) missiles are produced by Strela (Orenburg).


Supersonic cruise missile "Yakhont-M". Photo: Anatoly Sokolov


Purpose, composition and main characteristics

"Bastion" (3K55, according to NATO classification - SSC-5 Stooge, Russian "puppet") - coastal missile system (BRK) with anti-ship missile "Yakhont" / "Onyx". It is designed to defeat surface ships of various classes and types, operating independently and as part of groups (formations, convoys), including carrier-based, as well as ground-based radio contrast targets under conditions of intense fire and electronic countermeasures of the enemy. Created in mobile ("Bastion-P", K-300P) and stationary ("Bastion-C", K-300С, mine placement) options.

The standard composition of the battery of the BRT Bastion-P battery with K-310 Onyx / Yakhont: 4 SPU K-340P (2 TPK with RCC, crew of 3 person), 1 – 2 combat control vehicle (crew of 5 person), combat duty support vehicle and 4 K-342P transport and charging vehicles (TZM). The Bastion complex can be completed with a self-propelled radar station for over-the-horizon detection of airborne and surface targets of the Monolith-B type. The complex also includes maintenance facilities and training facilities.

The main element of the "Bastion" BRK is the universal high-precision cruise anti-ship missile "Onyx" P-800 (3М55, according to the classification of the United States, NATO - SS-N-26, Strobile, Russian "conifer cone") of medium range. Provides defeat surface and ground targets in the conditions of active fire and electronic countermeasures of the enemy. It has a normal aerodynamic scheme with the placement of the starting engine in the combustion chamber of the main engine. With a starting mass of 3000 – 3100 kg and a length of 8 m, the speed of the rocket when flying at height and at the surface reaches M = 2,6 (750 m / s) and M = 2, respectively. The maximum target destruction range is 450 – 500, up to 300 and 120 km, with altitude (up to 14 km), combined and low-altitude flight trajectory, respectively. At the final segment (about 40 km), the flight altitude is 10 – 15 m. Ready to launch - 2 minutes after power on. The rocket goes into service in an airtight TPC with a designated shelf life until the combat use of 10 years and the interregional maintenance period of 3.

The jam-resistant active-passive radar homing head with a mass of 85 kg detects a target at a distance of up to 75 km and directs a missile upon it during a wave of up to 7 points. The mass of the warhead PKR "Onyx" / "Yakhont" - 300 / 200 kg. The rocket is made using the stealth technology, unified for various carriers, has a trans-horizontal firing range of the “shot-and-forget” principle and operates in a wide altitude range at supersonic flight speeds. The PKR control system provides the evasion of enemy fire weapons, the independent distribution and classification of targets, as well as the choice of attack tactics of the intended target.

The coastal missile system "Bastion-P" protects the coast with a length of more than 600 km. Ammunition is determined by the number of SPU. The launch interval for rockets with one SPU is 2,5 seconds. The transfer of BRK from the traveling position and back is no more than 5 minutes. The autonomous combat duty is 24 hours, with additional funds up to 30 days. Guaranteed service life - 10 years.

In October, 2013 of the year, the Bastion DRC with Onyx anti-ship missiles after the march (100 km) to the firing positions area struck a surface target - a metal tank with a volume of about 0,25 cube. m at a distance of several tens of kilometers from the coast. In September, 2014, a free-drifting small-sized target, was destroyed during exercises in the Crimea by the complex.

Around the "Bastion"


According to experts, the combat part of the Onyx missile is designed to defeat surface targets such as the American cruiser Tikondenrog with a displacement of 10 thousand tons. And US experts rightly consider the Bastion BRK a serious threat not only for their cruisers, but also for aircraft carriers.

Currently, the Bastion DBK are the Russian Federation, Vietnam and Syria. In the Russian army, three complexes are in service with the 11th separate coastal missile and artillery brigade of the Black Sea Fleet. These complexes are quite enough to cover not only the Crimean, but the entire Russian Black Sea coast. Earlier, Admiral Viktor Chirkov said that in the period until 2020, our coastal troops fleet should receive about 20 new coastal missile systems such as "Bastion" and "Ball". According to some reports, the deployment of the "Bastion" was planned on the Kuril Islands. It is very likely that a certain amount of Bastion DBK will be located on the long Russian coast in the Arctic, due to the growing role and importance of this region for the Russian Federation.

The first foreign buyer of the Russian BRT Bastion-P was Vietnam, which today has two complexes. The proceeds from this contract funds allowed to complete the necessary work at the final stage of the complex.

Syria became the second foreign owner of this formidable defensive weapon. The first and second Bastion-P battery packs Syrians received in August 2010 and June 2011, respectively. And in July, the Syrian Bastion was tested for the first time at a joint exercise of the Navy and coastal defense forces by 2012 for the first time. These complexes have become one of the reasons for the cautious actions of Western warships in this area of ​​the Mediterranean, not risking a close approach to the Syrian coast.

According to media reports, in 2013, Israel launched an air strike on the Syrian port of Latakia. The reason for this was the desire to destroy the arsenal of anti-ship missiles "Yakhont". Subsequently, Benjamin Netanyahu indirectly confirmed this. He stated that "he will not allow radical groups to get modern weapons from the arsenals of the Syrian army." According to janes.com, The Wall Street Journal and other American media, after this attack, part of the Yakhont anti-ship missile was disassembled and delivered to Lebanon to protect this country from Israeli attacks aviation.

It is known that currently negotiations are underway to sell the coastal missile system "Bastion-P" with the anti-ship missile complex "Yakhont" to Venezuela. It is not excluded that in the near future this complex will become a subject of negotiations with some other countries of Southeast Asia. This is due to the active build-up of naval forces in the region and the resulting increased attention to the defense of the sea coast.
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  1. Rimsler2014
    Rimsler2014 30 August 2015 04: 35 New
    +4
    heh heh now they will risk figs come
    1. Kukish
      Kukish 30 August 2015 18: 19 New
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      The same India, in joint production with Israel, developed the BARAK-8 system, which was tested by BrahMos rockets (almost the same missiles as the Bastion) - a supersonic anti-ship missile developed by Russia and India and this missile is based on the P-800 Onyx (more precisely, on its export version is Yakhont).

      1. Vend
        Vend 30 August 2015 18: 44 New
        +2
        It is possible that in the near future this complex will become a subject of negotiations with some other countries of Southeast Asia.
        And then mattresses can hand over their ships in scrap metal. With their fears and mental imbalance, they can’t plow through water laughing
      2. Arkon
        Arkon 30 August 2015 20: 45 New
        +2
        Honestly, it’s not very clear how BARAK will intercept supersonic targets - the speed of the interceptor missile is low, as they say.

        Meanwhile, when intercepting a maneuvering target (and Onyx refers to such), the speed of the interceptor should significantly exceed the speed of the target.
        1. Kukish
          Kukish 30 August 2015 21: 42 New
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          Barack-8 and was developed against such missiles. I don’t know exactly how it shoots, but the Indians and Israelis set out to destroy Yakhont missiles.


          Meanwhile, when intercepting a maneuvering target (and Onyx refers to such), the speed of the interceptor should significantly exceed the speed of the target.


          I don’t think, it’s more a question of reaction time and of course speed is very important, but 2M is also possible.

          By the way, the Bastion indicated that the speed of the rocket when flying at altitude and near the surface reaches M = 2,6 (750 m / s) and M = 2, respectively.

          For example, the SM-6 - American anti-aircraft missile has a speed of up to 3,5M
          On October 24, 2014, during the exercises, a massive attack of low-flying subsonic and supersonic targets, simulating the corresponding anti-ship missiles, was successfully carried out using SM-6 missiles. At the same time, the successful interception of the supersonic training target GQM-163A (corresponding to the characteristics and flight profile of the P-270 Mosquito missile) was performed

          If you look at the speed parameters of Mosquito - her speed is decent -
          cruising - M = 2,35
          maximum - M = 2,8

          That is, the Americans may well be able to shoot down such missiles .. and it turns out not so reliable guard of the sea coast
          1. Max
            Max 30 August 2015 23: 32 New
            +2
            Quote: Kukish
            That is, the Americans may well be able to shoot down such missiles .. and it turns out not so reliable guard of the sea coast

            But for this you need to find the rocket away from the ship, i.e. To do this, you need some kind of observation post such as a helicopter to look behind the radio horizon. Those. target for S-300 or S-400.
            S-400 + Bastion, such a scheme is probably needed for a successful attack by ships.
            1. 4thParasinok
              4thParasinok 6 September 2015 11: 17 New
              +1
              Quote: Max
              But for this you need to find a rocket away from the ship

              in-in, it is necessary to detect first, and then react.
              The exoset having a speed of 0,9m (subsonic) is discovered by the Americans 2 seconds before entering the ship, and there is nothing they can do with it. Volcanoes only manage to spin the rotor, but no longer have time to turn to the side of the rocket, the same story with missile systems - they further discovered a zilch instead of firing. But Americans are able to detect yachts even less time before hitting, less than 1,5 seconds.
              So your Jews go through the woods.
  2. Coboklo
    Coboklo 30 August 2015 05: 37 New
    +4
    How lovely! Just a balm for the soul.
  3. aszzz888
    aszzz888 30 August 2015 06: 42 New
    +12
    Therefore, only a suicide could give orders to NATO ships to pass the Black Sea straits, to approach the coast of the Crimea and begin an operation to "force" Moscow into something.


    The media announced that Cook is again going to the Black Sea, which is Donald. Ostensibly to maintain peace in the region. We all know how the mericatos maintain peace, so let the ears of our fellow citizens rub.
    And it will twitch, so from this Cook will make a cuckoo. It’s not enough for them that their sailor’s got better after flying around our Drying, they want to test our patience again.
    1. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 30 August 2015 07: 30 New
      +13
      Cook escaped because he was at gunpoint (Monolith) And he wanted to scout out the radiation ranges, and Su 24 with the EW container recorded all their radiation and transmissions. Cook was not ready for this and told everything about himself. The enemy must be studied and intimidated so that he would be afraid popping into our borders.
    2. sabakina
      sabakina 30 August 2015 12: 07 New
      +7
      Quote: aszzz888

      The media announced that Cook is again going to the Black Sea, which is Donald.

      Yes, we know, ate already ...
  4. Igor K
    Igor K 30 August 2015 07: 02 New
    +2
    An excellent rocket, if you still "teach" such a rocket when a warrant is detected, give target designation to the shore, flying rockets having entered a flight plan with tacks then UAVs are not particularly needed if you know the general coordinates of the enemy.
    1. 4thParasinok
      4thParasinok 6 September 2015 11: 28 New
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      2 Igor K, do you understand what you are writing about? it seems not.
      1. Such a missile does not launch into confusion, but only when it is known that there is a target in this square.
      2. When shooting multiple missiles in a square, one of the yachts having risen to a height of 15 km from a range of 70 km can assume the role of KP and target eliminator, distributing targets in the discovered squadron between missiles, and then having to go down to continue flying.
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 30 August 2015 08: 27 New
    +6
    It’s very good that we have such a weapon. 500 km is far enough to hold all sorts of AUGs of “partners” at arm's length. But what will mattresses do if the Bastion is bought by the Iranians? Remove your AUG from the Persian Gulf?
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    2. gjv
      gjv 30 August 2015 09: 05 New
      +4
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      It’s very good that we have such a weapon. 500 km is far enough to hold all sorts of AUGs of “partners” at arm's length.

      Unfortunately, the Yankees have an outstretched Tomahawk arm with a range of up to 2500 km.
      1. Phantom Revolution
        Phantom Revolution 30 August 2015 09: 40 New
        +10
        Quote: gjv
        Unfortunately, the Yankees have an outstretched Tomahawk arm with a range of up to 2500 km.

        Well, for this there is air defense.
      2. Inok10
        Inok10 30 August 2015 17: 58 New
        +6
        Quote: gjv
        Unfortunately, the Yankees have an outstretched Tomahawk arm with a range of up to 2500 km.

        ... unfortunately, but maybe fortunately .. this range only when using Special warheads, when used in the format of HE (high-explosive fragmentation) range does not exceed 1800 km. a, for those launched from submarines it does not exceed 900 km. .. and in general, what side did the Tomahawk suddenly become RCC ?! .. even if we consider that it was once developed exactly as long-range RCC and was recognized in this form as a futile development .. hi .. 3M55 with a speed of 2.6-2 M and Tomahawk ?! subsonic for striking ground targets with previously known coordinates .. hi
        1. gjv
          gjv 31 August 2015 13: 23 New
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          Quote: Inok10
          when used in the version of HE (high-explosive fragmentation) range does not exceed 1800 km. a, for those launched from submarines it does not exceed 900 km. .. and in general, what side did the Tomahawk suddenly become RCC ?! ..

          Tomahawk - RCC - Against Continental Russia at ranges of 900 - 1800 km. And the “Bastion” is finishing at 450-500 km (according to open data). Do not find the difference?
          In this regard, really interested in real efficiency
          Quote: NEXUS
          there are armor, S-400/300, Torah, as well as false targets ..
          against the Tomahawks.
      3. NEXUS
        NEXUS 30 August 2015 21: 46 New
        +3
        Quote: gjv
        Unfortunately, the Yankees have an outstretched Tomahawk arm with a range of up to 2500 km.

        And we have the Carapace, C-400 / 300, the Torah, and also the targets are false .. let them first find, recognize, and then try to break through the missile defense ...
  6. 31rus
    31rus 30 August 2015 08: 35 New
    +6
    "Bastion" is good, but only a set of measures can effectively counter threats, Crimea, Kuril Islands, Artik, the entire coast should be strengthened and prepared for protection, there is a lot of work, the Yankees will look for "weak" places in Crimea and other places, we just have to be ready for this and it’s good that there are smart heads inventing such complexes
  7. CTABEP
    CTABEP 30 August 2015 09: 05 New
    +2
    But the range of 500 km - it is on a high trajectory approach to the target, and the interception of such anti-ship missiles for air defense is quite real. So the real radius of effective action is most likely lower - when flying on a combined and low altitude trajectory.
    PS 1 complex - this is 1 battery fully equipped, right?
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    2. gjv
      gjv 30 August 2015 13: 10 New
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      Quote: CTABEP
      1 complex - this is 1 battery fully equipped, right?

      The composition of the complex "Bastion-P" [edit | edit wiki text]
      RCC K-310 "Yakhont" in the transport and launch container
      Self-propelled launchers (SPU K340P) on the MZKT-7930 chassis (crew of 3 people) [3]
      The combat control vehicle (MBU K380P) on the KamAZ-43101 chassis (crew of 4 people) or MZKT-65273 (crew of 4 people)
      Equipment for information and technical interfacing of PBRK combat assets with the head command post
      Automated combat control system (ASBU) PBRK
      Complex of technical maintenance facilities (KSTO). Additionally
      Transport and loading machines (TZM K342P)
      Military alert vehicles (MOBD)
      Training complex (UTK)
      Helicopter target designation complex (VCC)
      The complex can be equipped with self-propelled over-the-horizon radar for detecting air and surface targets "Monolith-B"

      The standard composition of the battery K-300 "Bastion-P":
      4 K-340P self-propelled launchers with two transport launch tubes for Yakhont missiles (3 crew)
      1-2 combat control vehicles (ASBU) PBRK (crew of 5 people)
      1 combat duty support vehicle (MOBD)
      4 transport-loading machines (TZM K342P)

      Technical Specifications of Bastion-P [edit | edit wiki text]
      Maximum ammunition load of the complex: 24 anti-ship missiles (12 SPUs with 2 anti-ship missiles)
      The launch interval of the Kyrgyz Republic when salvo firing from one SPU is 2,5 s
      Bringing the complex into combat readiness from a stowed position of less than 5 minutes
      Autonomous combat duty without auxiliary equipment - 24 hours (30 days with the Ministry of Railways)
      Assigned service life - 10 years
      Coast protection - more than 600 km long from enemy landing operations
    3. 4thParasinok
      4thParasinok 6 September 2015 11: 35 New
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      Quote: CTABEP
      But the range of 500 km - it is on a high trajectory approach to the target, and the interception of such anti-ship missiles for air defense is quite real.

      high-altitude flight is not necessary, only a jump to a height is possible to better determine the priority target in the warrant, and even then at a distance of 70 km from the squadron, where it is practically impossible to detect it by ship’s air defense. if the target is single, then the jump is not needed.
  8. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 30 August 2015 10: 01 New
    +2
    I think the NATO will understand me if I write to them that they don’t need to swim near our shores, otherwise we will put them on a "coniferous cone"))
  9. Olezhek
    Olezhek 30 August 2015 10: 28 New
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    According to experts, the combat part of the Onyx missile is designed to defeat surface targets such as the American cruiser Tikondenrog with a displacement of 10 thousand tons.


    Small off topic - we have a destroyer designed for 18 thousand tons.
    The atomic destroyer for the Russian Navy. Look outside
    Smishno ...
  10. Olezhek
    Olezhek 30 August 2015 10: 34 New
    0
    After the deployment of the complex from the mainland and the deployment to the Crimea opened for US space exploration, the group of NATO warships in the Black Sea abruptly moved away from the Russian coast.


    1 As we see in itself, the existence of a nuclear weapon and a tactical nuclear weapon does not solve all problems. Alas.
    Need more conventional weapons.

    2 It is not clear why the Russian Black Sea Fleet itself could not scare off NATO ships from the Crimea.
    Are there also anti-ship missiles?
    And the Russian fleet is not the Syrian fleet.
    1. CTABEP
      CTABEP 30 August 2015 11: 38 New
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      Our Black Sea Fleet, alas, is not going through the best of times. Even the Turkish fleet itself is stronger, and with US support, the balance of power becomes generally sad, and it is precisely such complexes that can correct this situation.
      Well, and about the fact that someone scared someone off sharply - it's just beautiful words, if the Americans entered the Black Sea - it is unlikely that we would suddenly shoot at them with “Bastions”, and everyone understands this.
      1. 4thParasinok
        4thParasinok 6 September 2015 12: 05 New
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        Quote: CTABEP
        Even the Turkish fleet itself is stronger

        controversial statement. Given the introduction of new ships and the possibility of suppressing the activity of the Turkish air force
  11. GYGOLA
    GYGOLA 30 August 2015 11: 11 New
    0
    A weighty argument on the protection of the Black Sea waters. In principle, any, but more necessary, more relevant there.
  12. GYGOLA
    GYGOLA 30 August 2015 11: 26 New
    -2
    . Putin explained that "so far no one has such weapons" and "this is perhaps the most efficient coastal complex in the world today."
    And then
    Currently, the Bastion DBK are the Russian Federation, Vietnam and Syria.
    И
    The first foreign buyer of the Russian Bastion-P DBK was Vietnam, which today has two complexes. The second foreign owner of this formidable defensive weapon was Syria.
    Torganuli already in the 11th year sad Although it’s like ours ... soldier
    The proceeds from this contract made it possible to complete the necessary work at the final stage of creating the complex.
    Of course, without this contract, there’s no way to end it. A beggarly state defense order. But then Chubais on the devices ...
  13. veksha50
    veksha50 30 August 2015 12: 34 New
    +1
    "According to some reports, the deployment of the Bastion was planned on the Kuril Islands as well ..."

    Yeah, a couple of batteries wouldn’t hurt ... Only the maneuvering possibilities are negative, then it’s better to put a move, but so that the position area is protected against all ninja people-frogs equipped (P-100 net, minefields, CC-5 television surveillance, etc. .d.) ...

    Something was silent about the Baltic ... and there, after all, NATO ships also hang around, as in a passage yard ...
  14. Butt
    Butt 30 August 2015 14: 03 New
    +2
    for veksha50 SU
    How and by what Japan will storm the Kuril Islands of Russia.
    “In the near future, the Bastion coastal systems equipped with Onyx supersonic anti-ship missiles capable of hitting enemy ships at distances up to 300 km and Pantsir-S air defense systems will be transferred to Iturup. Buk-M1 air defense systems will be replaced by Buk-M2 , the island will appear attack helicopters Ka-52K in the marine version. "
    We keep the right course.
  15. Andrew3000
    Andrew3000 30 August 2015 15: 25 New
    -5
    A rocket is very similar to a genital organ
  16. Garris199
    Garris199 30 August 2015 16: 25 New
    0
    In the Russian army, three complexes are in service with the 11th separate coastal missile and artillery brigade of the Black Sea Fleet.

    And how many PUs does anyone know?
  17. Old26
    Old26 31 August 2015 09: 41 New
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    Quote: Wend
    And then mattresses can hand over their ships in scrap metal. With their fears and mental imbalance, they can’t plow through water

    "Do not read Soviet newspapers before eating"
    The fears and instability of Americans are manifested exclusively in our media

    Quote: Garris199
    And how many PUs does anyone know?

    12
  18. Old26
    Old26 31 August 2015 19: 45 New
    +1
    Quote: Igor K
    An excellent rocket, if you still "teach" such a rocket when a warrant is detected, give target designation to the shore, flying rockets having entered a flight plan with tacks then UAVs are not particularly needed if you know the general coordinates of the enemy.

    And also teach this rocket to go into space, fly around the moon and carry 10 warheads. Then she wouldn’t have a price ...
    What people just can’t think of, the cooler the better. As a result, they propose to make not a rocket, but some ye ...
    Respected! The issuance of target designation from missiles to shore and to flying missiles implies radio command control and data lines. Which with the modern development of electronic warfare are clogged at a time.
    Flying tacks will lead to an elementary disruption of guidance, since the viewing angle of the homing head is quite narrow ...


    Quote: CTABEP
    But the range of 500 km - it is on a high trajectory approach to the target, and the interception of such anti-ship missiles for air defense is quite real. So the real radius of effective action is most likely lower - when flying on a combined and low altitude trajectory.

    From where the author dug a range of 500 km is known only to him. A range of 300 km is achieved when flying at an altitude of 14 km, where only the last 50 km the missile dives, reaching altitudes of about 20-30 meters. And only the last kilometers are heights of the order of 5-10 meters
    In principle, I have never met as many as three options for trajectories. High, combined and low. Usually only combined, when most of the trajectory is high-altitude (14 km) and only the last section is about 20-30 meters (the so-called Lo-Hi-Lo trajectory). And low altitude (Lo-Lo). Heights of the same order (heights of 14 km are simply not there)
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 1 September 2015 01: 06 New
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      Quote: Old26
      From where the author dug a range of 500 km is known only to him. A range of 300 km is achieved when flying at an altitude of 14 km, where only the last 50 km the missile dives, reaching altitudes of about 20-30 meters. And only the last kilometers are heights of the order of 5-10 meters

      I dug from the same place where you came from, the quote I highlighted. NOBODY .. besides a few people .. does not know the exact performance characteristics of modern weapons and this applies not only to the Bastion. All we know is the performance characteristics of export options.
  19. Old26
    Old26 1 September 2015 23: 13 New
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    Quote: dvina71
    I dug from the same place where you came from, the quote I highlighted. NOBODY .. besides a few people .. does not know the exact performance characteristics of modern weapons and this applies not only to the Bastion. All we know is the performance characteristics of export options.

    That is the point. No one knows, but the figure has already appeared. In addition, I do not think that the non-export modification has a range of 2 hundred kilometers more than the export one. Alas, the “Onyx” and “Yakhont” have the same weight and size characteristics.
    1. Max
      Max 3 September 2015 03: 20 New
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      Yes, the same information used to be that the maximum range was 300 km with a combined trajectory.
      What is the difference between a yacht and a mosquito that it is so praised ??? Only the ultimate anti-aircraft maneuver ??? Instead of a snake - a spiral. The head is the same, slightly improved, marching speed less than that of a mosquito. Warhead is the same. The fact that only from scratch practically created it ???
  20. Old26
    Old26 3 September 2015 09: 10 New
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    Quote: Max
    Yes, the same information used to be that the maximum range was 300 km with a combined trajectory.

    And how is the so-called combined trajectory (LO-HI-LO) different from high-altitude? Yes, nothing. This is basically the same thing. The low-altitude part of the trajectory at the beginning (LO-HI-LO) is the moment of start and climb. High Altitude (LO-HI-LO) is a flight at a marching altitude of 14 km, the final section (LO-HI-LO) - this is when the GOS captures the target and the rocket dives from a height of 14 km and begins to move the last 40 km at altitudes of the order of 10-15 meters. What, then, is understood by a high-altitude trajectory? Doesn’t she have the same sites? And what, the "absence" (if the authors suggest this) of the final section of half a hundred kilometers gives an increase of 2 hundred ???

    Quote: Max
    What is the difference between a yacht and a mosquito that it is so praised ???

    Lighter, shorter, longer range than Mosquito

    Quote: Max
    Only the ultimate anti-aircraft maneuver ??? Instead of a snake - a spiral.

    I always liked this mention of the "snake". The truth is now from the text about the "mosquito" (on Wiki) removed the range at which this snake was produced and EMNIP reduced overload by 2 times. And those who wrote articles mentioning the "snake" tried to calculate what should be the "half-radius" of this snake. And correlated it with the capture angle of the seeker?
    And the spiral as an anti-aircraft maneuver at a height of 5 meters above the water - can you explain how this happens?
  21. Max
    Max 4 September 2015 03: 40 New
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    Quote: Old26
    And how is the so-called combined trajectory (LO-HI-LO) different from high-altitude? Yes, nothing.

    Here you are absolutely right. Combined (high-altitude + low-altitude sections) or high-altitude is the entire path. Lo-Hi-Lo - I have not heard such an abbreviation yet, apparently I have not been engaged in rockets for a long time))). Yes, and the climb is fast to separate the low-altitude section on the initial climb.
    Quote: Old26
    The high part (LO-HI-LO) is a flight at a marching altitude of 14 km, the final section (LO-HI-LO) is when the GOS captures a target and a rocket dives from a height of 14 km and begins to move the last 40 km at altitudes about 10-15 meters.

    GOS does not capture anything on a high-altitude plot with a combined trajectory (At least on a mosquito so). When starting on a ship, you lay the range to the target. Further, the ship system automatically calculates the length of the high-altitude section of the trajectory (time of descent from the high-altitude section). After lowering after a certain time, the product is already moving along a low-altitude trajectory at the height that was entered on the ship, then the head starts to work.
    Quote: Old26
    Lighter, shorter, longer range than Mosquito

    But the speed is lower. Therefore, an easier anti-aircraft missile is needed - what’s there according to the rules of the crew: the speed of the anti-missile should be 3 times the speed of the target. With a snake in a mosquito, what kind of overload should a missile defense have? You can still make a rocket easier, shorter and more range to do. Why in general there are so many grandmas to swell when it was still possible just to conjure with a mosquito ???
    Quote: Old26
    And those who wrote articles mentioning the "snake" tried to calculate what should be the "half-radius" of this snake.

    As for the snake - everything is in order. At the yacht, the identity was supposed to be a "spiral" maneuver. So I ask whether it is implemented? When diving from a height only?