Diesel-electric submarines Novorossiysk is heading for the Black Sea Fleet

The diesel-electric submarine "Novorossiysk", making the inter-fleet transition from the North to the Black Sea Fleet, entered the Mediterranean Sea, reports MIC with reference to the representative of the Black Sea Fleet Vyacheslav Trukhachev.

“Today is the latest diesel-electric submarine of the third generation Novorossiysk, project 636.3, the first of six mass-produced for the Black Sea fleet, within the framework of the inter-naval transition from the North to the Black Sea Fleet, successfully proceeded through the Strait of Gibraltar and entered the water area of ​​the Mediterranean Sea ”Said Trukhachev.

According to him, “in accordance with the transition plan, in the second half of September, the submarine will pass the Black Sea straits and arrive at the military harbor of Novorossiysk, where the construction of moorings and installation of support systems for new-generation diesel submarines has been completed.”

Comments

[Serg 122]

Happy completion of the transition!

[Civil]

EEEE. Comrades, why don’t you write anything about Usraina? Where are the messages how Ukrainians carry Gorlovka ???
What is there with Vasilyeva?

[AVA77]

EEE comrade with such thoughts, your place is well, very far away. Just lie down, glue the fins and you are at the goal.

[INVESTOR]

Not much off topic, but still very interesting. Fake or not?

The Central Bank of Russia (CBR) “took custody” of 3 million ounces of gold worth more than $ 3,5 billion from the American banking and financial services giant Citigroup, along with an additional almost $ 100 billion in cash ... Citigroup, severs contacts with 11 countries, is alarmed by the situation in the US economy and is transporting its assets to Russia for storage

http://politobzor.net/show-62979-amerikanskiy-gigant-citigroup-perevozit-v-rossi
yu-znachitelnye-obemy-zolotyh-rezervov.html

[Asadullah]

Yes, of course a fake! But the funnier, the more interesting, Citigroup has a fund of special assets that can be used in the event of unexpected difficulties or damage to the US government. It is possible that some of the assets of this fund could be moved to places inaccessible to the American government. That is, such a fake leak of idiotic information. On the other hand, with the nervous moves of Washington, the huge financial empire will not become a sacrificial sheep. It would be great.

PSY: By the way, rumors have been circulating for a year now that the situation of confrontation between the USA and Russia was created-provoked artificially, by some large financial forces, to protect and diversify their assets. And Snowden was a trial balloon, the failure of Russia to issue which led to the following events.

[FM-78]

Very interesting, but not as funny as you think.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: INVESTOR

The Central Bank of Russia (CBR) “took custody” of 3 million ounces of gold worth more than $ 3,5 billion from the American banking and financial services giant Citigroup, along with an additional almost $ 100 billion in cash ... Citigroup, severs contacts with 11 countries, is alarmed by the situation in the US economy and is transporting its assets to Russia for storage

It is difficult to say for now whether it is true or not. But, it is quite possible. The article describes the economic and political motives of this behavior of the bank.
On my own, I will add that in America, a volcano is gradually activating in the Yellowstone Reserve, which if it explodes, the United States, as a state, will cease to exist.
I would, in general, advise all "Russians" in America to wind up their business in the USA and transfer it to the continent of Eurasia. According to the predictions of the American predictor Edgar Cayce, in the near future only Russia will flourish, and America will disappear.

[Amurets]

Now there is a rapid replenishment of gold reserves. In August 2014. Gold reserves amounted to 1040,7 tons, or 8,9% of Russia's gold and foreign exchange reserves. Putin ordered an increase in the share of gold to 10% of gold and foreign exchange reserves. German Di Welt reacted as follows. These reserves will not save Putin, cites the regulation on the Central Bank of Russia. The regulation on the Central Bank was written off from the regulation on the US Federal Reserve. Who is interested in this position: www.polit-inform.ru/showobject/objid/189

[Volgroo]

I have been repeating this for a long time.
Several years ago in the AIF there was an article about the purchase of agricultural resources of Russia and the lands of Altai by American companies. Big US banks were behind this.

[Baikal]

Quote: Алексей_К

According to the predictions of the American predictor ...

Maybe you should have checked it yourself before writing? On the bones to spread, for example, to sing an ass ... on the contrary, "God Save the Tsar" on the night of the 13th, to summon the elves ... A standard example of a believer in any kind of henna as a result of lack of education and, as a result, decay of personality.
I am ashamed of you. So society is eroded to an amorphous pig-like mass - Americans.

[Omskgasmyas]

Sketch on the fan.

[Omskgasmyas]

Sketch on the fan.

[Civil]

Quote: AVA77

EEE comrade with such thoughts, your place is well, very far away. Just lie down, glue the fins and you are at the goal.

I'm watching. Are you a friend of Taburetkin? Say hello to Vasilyeva to Maldives.

[AVA77]

With your prayers, the main thing is not to strain, it will break through!

[dmitrich]

Quote: Civil

I'm watching. Are you a friend of Taburetkin? Say hello to Vasilyeva to Maldives.

and you are a friend of parashenko and other pi Dorgs!

[boroda64]

...
- ensign
- you will never be a major ..

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Civil

EEEE. Comrades, why don’t you write anything about Usraina? Where are the messages how Ukrainians carry Gorlovka ???
What is there with Vasilyeva?

I can’t say for sure why you were given so many minuses, but, I think, for a somewhat aggressive text.
If you are reading the Military Review, then in parallel with it there is a site "Military Materials" - most of the articles first appear there.
Here is the link "http://warfiles.ru/94469-ukrainskie-voennye-vnov-nachali-obstrelivat-donec
kiy-aeroport.html ".
And there is a more main site "Vestnik Mordovia" - "http://www.vestnik-rm.ru/news-4.htm".
Read.

[EDELVEISS]

And about Vasiliev, you can't ...

[FM-78]

You, frankly, zadolbali with this woman, do not confuse the object with the subject.

[Tor5]

Yes, soon there will be a real fleet, more than combat-ready in all respects!
For those at sea !!!

[APASUS]

Interestingly, in the Crimea there was at least some kind of infrastructure for the submarine fleet?

[The boat]

Quote: APASUS

Interestingly, in the Crimea there was at least some kind of infrastructure for the submarine fleet?

for 636.3 certainly not.

[ty60]

They say that the new one was built for project 636.3.

[razzhivin]

In Novorossiysk! ...

What a significant name the city has ...!

[AdekvatNICK]

Yes, we have an active construction there, here in the photo after the grass there was immediately the sea, and now everything was strengthened and everything was poured in concrete.
The contour of the inner water area of ​​the "Military Harbor" will provide maintenance and refueling of warships. On the coast, the necessary buildings and structures will be erected, including the building of the new headquarters of the Novorossiysk Naval Base, the design of which is already being completed, and the one that horizontally protects the pier from waves and refueling will go there.

It's a pity. There used to be a beach, now it's a restricted area.

[velbot185]

And how is the new diesel boat based on the organization of basing different from the old? The pier should be round, or what? This is not 705, hitched where there is a place, power and water, and it costs.

[arane]

Quote: velbot185

And how is the new diesel boat based on the organization of basing different from the old? The pier should be round, or what? This is not 705, hitched where there is a place, power and water, and it costs.

Oh! it feels like the person in the subject, especially when 705 mentioned, there really needed a special approach!
And so it makes no difference. New, old, nuclear, diesel .........
Pier, power supply, water. Everything!

[shans2]

There will be enough "Alrosa" 877 project, when it comes back from repair, and modernization, due before the end of the year.

[EDELVEISS]

Yes. 705 is a "masterpiece!"

[popandopulo]

Quote: APASUS

Interestingly, in the Crimea there was at least some kind of infrastructure for the submarine fleet?

not. squares destroyed everything. Let's hope that ours will restore some of the ashes and dust.

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: popandopulo

not. squares destroyed everything. Let's hope that ours will restore some of the ashes and dust.

The independent ones had a museum in Balaklava.

[scorpiosys]

In Balaklava, anyway, it is narrow and not enough for modern projects. DPL used to be thin.

[arane]

Quote: APASUS

Interestingly, in the Crimea there was at least some kind of infrastructure for the submarine fleet?

In the infrastructure for these boats there is nothing particularly unusual that would require some very individual troubles!
In essence, as for ordinary ships. Rear and coastal services, piers, power columns and water (optional but desirable)

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: APASUS

Interestingly, in the Crimea there was at least some kind of infrastructure for the submarine fleet?

Only in Sevastopol. There in Balaclava there is an underground submarine base. Since Sevastopol has always been under Russian jurisdiction, I think that she is still alive.

[marlin1203]

The rock object has not been used for a long time since the 90s and has been plundered; there has already been a whole program about this on TV. In the same program, it was argued that with modern high-precision weapons, the advantages of such a basing are leveled.

[kenig1]

There has long been a museum. At one time they plundered everything, all the metal that could be taken out was taken out.

[FM-78]

Yes, for tourists.

[halzan7]

Congratulations to the "watermen" with the update.

[The boat]

Quote: Halzan7

Congratulations to the "watermen" with the update.

maybe wait for mooring? The "water" also have their own superstitions.

[Lord of the Sith]

Quote: Das Boot

maybe wait for mooring? The "water" also have their own superstitions.

I also don't like it when, before the end of the transition, they throw in the news "where and how" the ship / boat is going.

[halzan7]

Sorry didn't think about it.

[Kent0001]

Tremble all those, well, who are like there with "Aegis", "Varshavyanka" you definitely will not see everything.

[Inok10]

.. successful combat training in the Black Sea, there is just a "conditional training target", for a "conditional training purpose" once a month ..

[egor1712]

interestingly someone accompanies her from surface ships ..

[Captain45]

Quote: egor1712

interestingly someone accompanies her from surface ships ..

Yesterday on the Perevodika website I read that in the Dutch zone the boat was accompanied by a Dutch minesweeper and an Orion aircraft, there were photos in the article. The boat was on the surface, and the Dutch smoked nervously, looking at it.

[egor1712]

did they send the boat without our convoy?

[Yugra]

Which convoy? It is fully armed. And this transition, albeit small, but a military service. In the course of working out several combat missions.

[egor1712]

a new ship, the path is not close ... for insurance I thought that some kind of patrol boat was nearby

[velbot185]

A lifeguard must be nearby for insurance. Watchdog then why? So that the pirates do not take away?

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Ugra

She goes fully armed, and this transition, albeit small, but military service

I wonder who is the second commander? Surely the brigade commander and the marching headquarters represented by f-1 and f-4.

Quote: Ugra

And this transition, albeit small, but military service.

It has always been that way. Surely * ride * tied to the transition.

Quote: Ugra

Several combat missions are being practiced along the way.

Most likely a search engine in the area of ​​probable SSBN patrolling. And of course - the AVU attack. Maybe NATO bases reconnaissance.

[Seaman77]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

It has always been that way. Surely * ride * tied to the transition.

Gibraltar took place today 26/08. Gibraltar - Novorossiysk: 2300 miles. Let's say it goes at 14 knots (at a swing of 17) and covers this distance in 7 days + 1 day for the passage of the Bosphorus. We receive ETA to Novorossiysk 03/09.

according to the transition plan in the second half of September, the submarine will pass the Black Sea straits and will arrive at the military harbor of Novorossiysk

Two weeks in Mediterranean for a * ride * ...

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Ugra

Which convoy? It is fully armed. And this transition, albeit small, but a military service. In the course of working out several combat missions.

The convoy not only guards and does not allow enemy ships close to the boat, but also serves as a repair base and a tanker. So without a convoy, only in a real battle boats sail or on combat duty.

[marlin1203]

I have never heard that a combat-ready boat was "escorted" by floating workshops and tankers. Teach the mind to reason, if in the subject.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: marlin1203

I have never heard that a combat-ready boat was "escorted" by floating workshops and tankers. Teach the mind to reason, if in the subject.

This is a diesel submarine. To go from Severodvinsk to Sevastopol, she will need a tanker. So far, no one has learned to move the submarine with the holy spirit. Now imagine that the diesel or batteries are out of order. Crew, what do you want to sunbathe? What if a fire or other complex accident? Who will save on a simple transition? NATO or Americans? Diesel submarines do not go alone. Nuclear and those at control points pop up and report, and in this area, Soviet civilian ships always hang out, supposedly by accident.

[BLACK-SHARK-64]

she is self-sufficient ...

[Stirbjorn]

Why does she need an escort?)

[Proud.]

Quote: Captain45

Yesterday on the Perevodika website I read that in the Dutch zone the boat was accompanied by a Dutch minesweeper and an Orion aircraft, there were photos in the article. The boat was on the surface, and the Dutch smoked nervously, looking at it.

Or the Belgians ... Smoked. Nervously. Here is a photo, and a source http://www.mil.be/fr/article/le-pollux-en-observation-dun-sous-marin-russe-dans-
notre-zone-economique-exclusive

[Manul]

Quote: egor1712

interestingly someone accompanies her from surface ships ..

On the way, she can hide from the hydroacoustic personnel of a potential enemy, but not very much from the ubiquitous journalists .They accompany her.

[scorpiosys]

It will be bold (for the present).

[Oman 47]

Seven feet under the keel, as they say!

[Penetrator]

Quote: Oman 47

Seven feet under the keel, as they say!

And happy hunting!

[BLACK-SHARK-64]

let the Banderlog tremble ..........

[RADIK]

Good luck to our sailors.

[killganoff]

will arrive at the military harbor of Novorossiysk, where the construction of berths and the installation of support systems for diesel submarines have already been completed new generation

Where did she become the new generation? DPL "Alrosa" - the same type with minor differences, all its life based on the Black Sea Fleet.

[Dart2027]

Quote: killganoff

DPL "Alrosa" - the same type with minor differences

B-871 "Alrosa" - Russian Project 877V diesel-electric submarine "Halibut"
B-261 "Novorossiysk" - Russian diesel-electric submarine of project 636.3 "Varshavyanka"
Same type?

[velbot185]

Which halibut, which Warsaw woman? Do you at least climb somewhere, read ... 877-Halibut ... Halibut in my head

[Dart2027]

Quote: velbot185

Which halibut, which Warsaw woman? Do you at least climb somewhere, read ... 877-Halibut ... Halibut in my head

That is, you do not know anything about the development of DELP at all? Expected.
Project 877 to which Alrosa belongs was developed in the 70s, that is, 30 years ago. Project 636.3 is the latest development of DELP, which is completely different from the project 30 years ago.
The simplest and most obvious difference is that Alrosa is armed with torpedo tubes and MANPADS, while Noorossiysk, in addition to torpedoes, is armed with the Kalibr cruise missile system.
Are these minor differences?

[gispanec]

Quote: Dart2027

Are these minor differences?

VAZ 2101 was also very different from 21011 ... or a troika from a shahi ... it is clear that the filling and weapons are very different, but this is not the whole boat ... although the difference is obvious, but they are relatives

[Dart2027]

Quote: gispanec

although the difference is obvious, they are related

Absolutely all ships are relatives. When a new project is being designed, then what already exists is taken as the basis - in fact, design is something like evolution. Yes, the current 636.3 is "descendants" of 877 and this is a fact. But talking about what it is same type with slight differences that's bullshit.

Quote: gispanec

it is clear that the filling and weapons are very different, but this is not the whole boat

And this is the boat - stuffing and weapons. It is the filling that ensures its movement, invisibility, the duration of its stay under water, etc.

[Voha_krim]

And we Crimeans are waiting for such a unit! We haven't had any new things for a long time! Hurry already!

[Stirbjorn]

The new outfit will be based in Novorossiysk, wait for Grigorovich soon

[BLACK-SHARK-64]

don't drift bro ... will ...

[roskot]

They will definitely come. Five more on the way. Give me time.

[Knight Rider]

Does she go on the surface all the time? And when will the second boat come to the Black Sea?

[velbot185]

All time. Over the ocean, above water, all the time. Denmark is scared by vomiting.

[BLACK-SHARK-64]

surfacing is a show of strength and confidence ....

[Yak-3P]

come on ... come on ... glory to kuzhegetich !!

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Yak-3P

come on ... come on ... glory to kuzhegetich !!

He-he-he ... B-261 "Novorossiysk" was laid down on August 20.08.2010, XNUMX. So - glory to Serdyukov!

Actually, Project 636.3 is a typical product of the "furniture maker's concept": reducing the cost and timing of obtaining new products for their aircraft due to the purchase of slightly processed serial products for export.
636.3 at the Admiralty shipyards run in parallel with the closest relatives of project 636.1, which are being built for Vietnam.

[BOB044]

With the replenishment of the Black Sea Fleet.

[Old26]

Quote: Kent0001

Tremble all those, well, who are like there with "Aegis", "Varshavyanka" you definitely will not see everything.

Do you know anything other than Aegis? Or post for the sake of post? And here "Aegis" and our boat ???

Quote: Captain45

The boat was on the surface, and the Dutch smoked nervously, looking at it.

They smoked, smoked. How can it be without nervous smoking ...

Quote: KnightRider

Does she go on the surface all the time?

Most likely yes. With underwater maximum travel, the range is reduced. If economical, it is certainly large, but the speed is 3-7 knots

[andrei332809]

just in time. there are slapsticks with Yankes on 31 plan sea breeze exercises. just what kind of vessel Banderstadt will put up for these exercises is it really a country saiga?

[sabakina]

Still, it’s interesting, will the captain make a “knight's move”, disappearing for some period from visual and radio contact?

[Alexs1833]

will do it to anybody, somewhere on the way.

[velbot185]

And what does the radio contact look like with the "captain"?

[shelva]

Over the Black Sea it is becoming calmer - it pleases.

[gispanec]

Quote: shelva

Over the Black Sea it is becoming calmer - it pleases.

worried? ... over the sea ?? ... charm .... and now what other seas will live more calmly? .... Kara or Laptev ??

[UVB]

I wonder what activities along the way, in terms of exercises, calls at which ports, are planned? Arrival in Novorossiysk - in the second half of September, a bit too long.

[Old26]

Quote: sabakina

Still, it’s interesting, will the captain make a “knight's move”, disappearing for some period from visual and radio contact?

What's the point? In front of the straits, you still have to float, and when you go under water it will lose either range or speed

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Old26

What's the point? In front of the straits, you still have to float, and when you go under water it will lose either range or speed

Gibraltar Soviet submarines always passed secretly under the bottom of large warships and non-warships. But before the Turks have to bow and get permission to pass.

[Amurets]

Alexey_K Tell me Why on earth?

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Алексей_К

But before the Turks you will have to bow and get permission to pass.

Resolution? Not an advance notice?

The coastal powers to the Black Sea will have the right to navigate through the Straits, in order to return to their base, their submarines built or bought outside this sea, if Turkey has been notified in advance of the tab or purchase.

For the passage of warships in the Straits, advance notice must be given to the Turkish Government by diplomatic means. The normal advance notice will be eight days; however, it is desirable that for the powers not coastal to the Black Sea, it should be increased to fifteen days. The advance notice will indicate the destination, name, type and number of ships, as well as the date of passage in the original direction and, if such is the case, then on return. Any change in date must be subject to three days' notice.

Entry into the Straits for passage in the original direction must take place within five days from the date specified in the original notice. After this period, a new notice must be given, under the same conditions as for the initial notice.

During the passage, the chief of the naval detachment will inform, without being obliged to stop, the signal station located at the entrance to the Dardanelles or the Bosphorus, the exact composition of the detachment under his command.

[Old26]

Quote: UVB

I wonder what activities along the way, in terms of exercises, calls at which ports, are planned? Arrival in Novorossiysk - in the second half of September, a bit too long.

Why? Surface speed is 11 knots. This range (Murmansk-Novorossiysk) will take about 45 days

[UVB]

What does Murmansk have to do with it? The ship is already in the Mediterranean, Gibraltar is passed.

[Coboklo]

For some reason I thought that they were being lowered down the Volga, on the sly, but here they were openly down the Mediterranean okian. Just beautiful! Let the ** ki even get stoned to ** the nose.

[ganimed161]

On rivers, depths are not allowed, especially on the Don, I think so.

[marlin1203]

By drag, the old fashioned way

[Old26]

Quote: UVB

What does Murmansk have to do with it? The ship is already in the Mediterranean, Gibraltar is passed.

Well, she came out of Murmansk. And having passed Gibraltar her course at a maximum speed of about 10 days. It is unlikely that they are running at their maximum. So the middle of September is quite a normal period.

[sgazeev]

Quote: Old26

Quote: UVB

What does Murmansk have to do with it? The ship is already in the Mediterranean, Gibraltar is passed.

Well, she came out of Murmansk. And having passed Gibraltar her course at a maximum speed of about 10 days. It is unlikely that they are running at their maximum. So the middle of September is quite a normal period.

The third-generation diesel-electric submarine of the Novorossiysk project, 636.3, the first of six serially built for the Black Sea fleet in St. Petersburg Admiralty Shipyards, today went to sea for factory running trials.

[Fotoceva62]

About the infrastructure. There are repair facilities in Sevastopol, docks too, a mine torpedo arsenal in stock, a battery shop with a charging station. There are enough specialists.
All these boats grew out of “Varshavyanka.” “Alrosa”, is an experimental boat with an external water-jet complex, was tested and surrendered here in Sevastopol. Why there was no series, a question? According to the responsible supplier and commander, the quietest submarine in our submarine at that time Navy.
Was on board more than once, well, compared to 613, the palace and the yacht at the same time.

[Aandrewsir]

Successful completion of the trip! I am glad that the Black Sea Fleet is strengthening and "growing"!

[morprepud]

Radiogram. Urgently.

Diesel-electric submarine "Novorossiysk", we are waiting for you .... PS starter is delivered

[dima-fesko]

I dream of seeing filming from some "cool" US destroyer "providing tranquility" in the Black Sea, as it floats up in a parallel course and Russian submariners wave greeting from the submarine, after which the Russian submariners, who are afraid of flights, write massive reports for cancellation (the passage of "Sushka" is not enough for them .....)

[kartalovkolya]

Happy sailing "Novorossiysk", seven feet under the keel!

[Old26]

Quote: dima-fesko

I dream of seeing filming from some "cool" US destroyer "providing tranquility" in the Black Sea, as it floats up in a parallel course and Russian submariners wave greeting from the submarine, after which the Russian submariners, who are afraid of flights, write massive reports for cancellation (the passage of "Sushka" is not enough for them .....)

Will not work. The destroyer will leave

[Goodrv]

When my daddy in 1986 was on the "Warsaw" from the quiet to the Baltic (b-227), they did not write in the news. And here - an event))

[Amurets]

Then, for this, they could have thrown a silence for a long time. My brother, until the last day of his life, did not tell how the first 667B was distilled at the Pacific Fleet. He did not even say the number. And when I saw the "Atomic Underwater Epic" and the reference book "Submarines of Russia" he just sighed heavily, but did not tell anything until his death.

[Wolka]

very, very handy ...

[Amurets]

Quote: Old26

Quote: sabakina

Still, it’s interesting, will the captain make a “knight's move”, disappearing for some period from visual and radio contact?

What's the point? In front of the straits, you still have to float, and when you go under water it will lose either range or speed

But nix will still be. If they APLs of 1-2 generations (which they called "Roaring Cows") could not find the "Mediterranean pool". Also the term of the Americans, what will happen when 6 "Black Holes" appear.

[Old26]

Quote: Amurets

But nix will still be. If they APLs of 1-2 generations (which they called "Roaring Cows") could not find the "Mediterranean pool". Also the term of the Americans, what will happen when 6 "Black Holes" appear.

Of course everything can be, Nikolai. But here we often operate on data 30-40 years ago (regarding the non-detection of 1st and 2nd generation nuclear submarines in the SPM).
But technology does not stand still. At what distance it is now realistic to find a submarine, nuclear submarine or nuclear submarine - KhZ. Is it now a "black hole" for the enemy's acoustic means, as it was in the 80s? Unfortunately, we do not know this. I think this information, as always, was, and is now covered by vultures. And the propaganda staple "black hole" ... Let it be for the boats of these projects.

Besides. Leave it underwater. Yes, there will undoubtedly be an effect. Perhaps for some time they will lose sight of her. But why give the enemy the opportunity to take an "acoustic portrait" of a submerged boat while driving on electric motors? And let it go on diesels in the surface position. Moreover, in any case, it will become known about her arrival in the Black Sea during the passage of the Straits ...

[alex451]

I have been waiting for a submarine of this project for a long time on the coast of Novorossiysk.

I'll take a telescope and go to the coast, I hope the FSB will not be twisted))

[polkovnik manuch]

Good news, somehow, at least something.

[fleet]

A lot of conversations during the difficult transition to the south. Good luck to the guys! Seven feet under the keel!

[Alex_59]

It is strange only why in Novorossiysk. Why not to Sevastopol? Alrosa stood in the South Bay. And here in Novorossiysk ... strange ...

[nerd]

Quote: Alex_59

It is strange only why in Novorossiysk. Why not to Sevastopol? Alrosa stood in the South Bay. And here in Novorossiysk ... strange ...

The nest ... ugh, that is, their base is there. In Novorossiysk, not in Sevastopol. She goes home.