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Poroshenko: the combat capability of the Ukrainian army has increased tenfold

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The President of Ukraine during the transfer of the next "portion" of military equipment to continue the civil war in his country announced that recently in the modernization of the army and fleet invested about two billion dollars. It is reported by TC "Rossiya24". According to Poroshenko," this is the price of two Mistrals. At the same time, Poroshenko is confident that the combat capability of the Ukrainian army has increased tenfold.

Poroshenko: the combat capability of the Ukrainian army has increased tenfold


Poroshenko on his page in Facebook:
For the year, the combat capability of the Ukrainian army has increased tenfold. Until the end of this year, we will adopt 18 samples weapons and military equipment, we will supply more than 300 units of armored vehicles, 400 units of vehicles, 30 000 units of missiles and ammunition, a large number of small arms units to the APU. We will not give a single inch of the Ukrainian land, and the key to this is the powerful and well-trained Armed Forces of Ukraine!


It should be recalled that Ukraine has a system of collecting "temporary military tax" in the amount of 1,5% of the income of a citizen of the country. This is a tax for the needs of the so-called "ATO". The Ukrainian law states that the "temporary military gathering" also applies to winnings in the lottery. They are raising funds for a civil war, even from the liquidators of the consequences of the accident at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant.
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  1. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 23 August 2015 08: 55
    +52
    It is right. Any number multiplied by zero will remain zero! At least tens, even hundreds of times.
    1. Marxist
      Marxist 23 August 2015 09: 13
      +1
      To the question of the Mistrals:
      As I recall, the cost of ships is 1,6 billion euros.
      And the penalty will be only 1,1 billion euros.
      But what about the remaining half a billion?
      1. bulvas
        bulvas 23 August 2015 09: 21
        +16

        Interestingly, the statements of Poroshenko, anyone, except for part of Ukraine, perceives
        seriously?

        1. Alexey Boukin
          Alexey Boukin 23 August 2015 11: 02
          +5
          The combat effectiveness of the Armed Forces is assessed not standing on the podium, but on the battlefields. The world has already heard many fairy tales from "chocolate lips", let's look at what was said in the case. After all, Ukraine went to him for a long time, hiding behind the Minsk negotiations, and in fact was preparing for a full-scale war with its people. We will look forward to when this "individual" will stand on the tribune of the court, making excuses for his atrocities.
          1. demo
            demo 23 August 2015 17: 05
            +3
            The speech of some commander in chief, and Poroshenko, according to the Constitution, Commander-in-Chief, is aimed, first of all, at raising the morale of the army.
            More precisely, the gang.
            This is the first.
            Second.
            The army does not fight with its people.
            So she is fighting with strangers.
            And the last.
            Unfortunately, this male male will not live to see the trial.
            "I knew too much."
            These will be his last words.
            1. noWAR
              noWAR 23 August 2015 18: 33
              0
              Quote: demo
              The army does not fight with its people.
              So she is fighting with strangers.
              And n

              Thought to see is not bad, bring thoughts back to normal. Dear Demo.
            2. northern
              northern 23 August 2015 21: 27
              0
              Quote: demo
              I knew too much. These will be his last words.

              And make SELF-OPPOSITION
        2. Penzyac
          Penzyac 23 August 2015 11: 04
          0
          Quote: bulvas
          Interestingly, the statements of Poroshenko, anyone, except for part of Ukraine, perceives
          seriously?

          And how big is this part, which has a clear tendency to further decrease? ...
        3. BMP-2
          BMP-2 23 August 2015 11: 06
          +1
          We will not give up an inch of Ukrainian land


          Against the backdrop of a growing campaign for the sale of enterprises, this phrase should be understood as nothing more than an advertisement of what goes with them "in the load." laughing

          It also follows from this phrase that this "American Columbus in Ukraine", the discoverer of the "Ukrainian land", this multiplier of honestly plundered, declares that he will give the land to his American owners, not as "Ukrainian", but presenting it as "Russian" ... laughing
          1. olegglin
            olegglin 23 August 2015 14: 27
            +5
            he will give the land to his American owners, not as "Ukrainian", but presenting it as "Russian".


            Well, he prefers vodka to Russian:
        4. Denis
          Denis 23 August 2015 11: 53
          +27
          Quote: bulvas
          Interestingly, the statements of Poroshenko, anyone, except for part of Ukraine, perceives
          seriously?
          1. Vladimir 1964
            Vladimir 1964 23 August 2015 21: 12
            +1
            bulvas, well, naturally you are right, speech is intended solely for domestic consumption. In general, articles and discussions of this drunk already cause me slight irritation. Not really there is nothing more interesting.
        5. Rus2012
          Rus2012 23 August 2015 16: 38
          +2
          Quote: bulvas
          Interestingly, the statements of Poroshenko, anyone, except for part of Ukraine, perceives
          seriously?

          ... Until Tomorrow Comes
          it is necessary to compile a list of all possible provocations of the junta "inhuman terrorist attack of the Russian special services", which will become a pretext for the Ukrainian Armed Forces' attack on the LPNR. Provocation should lead to mass casualties and be "beyond good and evil." After that, tons of liquid guano will pour on the fan of all pro-Western media.
          Probably the SCRIPT-TEXT is ALREADY Lying at the EDITORS in the safes!
          So:
          - terrorist attack in the Kuevsky metro using chemical weapons
          - blasting of one of the dams on the Dnieper
          - undermining-descent of the "train with children"
          ...
          The crash of a civilian plane has already been.
      2. Mitek
        Mitek 23 August 2015 09: 48
        +12
        Quote: Marxist
        To the question of the Mistrals:
        As I recall, the cost of ships is 1,6 billion euros.
        And the penalty will be only 1,1 billion euros.
        But what about the remaining half a billion?

        Everywhere appears 1.2 billion, and to be precise 1.15. (http://www.aif.ru/politics/world/1129034 http://army-news.ru/2011/01/mistral-dlya-rossii/) This is not to be unfounded. Moreover, the cost of the ship is 450 million euros, the rest is paid for BIUS technology and large-assembly. And if you take into account that half were built in St. Petersburg and taxes for them remained in Russia, steel was bought from our manufacturers, then the compensation is quite worthy. Franks have returned everything to us. And we in fact received for free the technologies we really need, at the expense of the Franks we built a coastal basing system for large ships (yes, yes, it is also included in the compensation).
      3. blind
        blind 23 August 2015 09: 49
        0
        and who said that we paid for the Mistals? morning chairs evening money
      4. Nikolay K
        Nikolay K 23 August 2015 10: 55
        0
        1,1 billion dollars this is a refund of the amount of the advance payment made and direct losses, which France agreed to compensate. No one will pay us the forfeit, we have forgiven them. :-)
        1. Rusich is not from Kiev
          Rusich is not from Kiev 23 August 2015 12: 37
          +2
          Quote: Nikolai K
          1,1 billion dollars this is a refund of the amount of the advance payment made and direct losses, which France agreed to compensate. No one will pay us the forfeit, we have forgiven them. :-)

          Why do we need unrest? The Olandis come and go, and we need to buy technology further. We were compensated for ALL costs (training, docks, etc.) incurred by Russia due to the failure to receive Mistralia. Rejection of the forfeit is a very correct decision in my opinion. Except for the endless ships and spoiled relations with the military-industrial complex of France, we would not get anything.
          1. Letun
            Letun 23 August 2015 17: 28
            0
            Quote: Rusich not from Kiev
            Except for the endless ships and spoiled relations with the military-industrial complex of France, we would not get anything.

            Well, yes, indeed, we did not spoil relations with the military-industrial complex of France. There’s probably a lot more to be ordered from them. laughing
            1. oldzek
              oldzek 23 August 2015 20: 34
              0
              in the project there were 4 ships 2 are built by the French 2 we are using French technology. maybe I don’t remember that.
            2. Rusich is not from Kiev
              Rusich is not from Kiev 23 August 2015 22: 07
              0
              Quote: Letun
              Well, yes, indeed, we did not spoil relations with the military-industrial complex of France. There’s probably a lot more to be ordered from them.

              We will undoubtedly order. You can discuss the Mistral, or you can for example thermal imagers.
            3. KaPToC
              KaPToC 23 August 2015 22: 29
              0
              Quote: Letun
              There’s probably a lot more to be ordered from them.

              Thermal imagers?
        2. KaPToC
          KaPToC 23 August 2015 22: 29
          0
          Quote: Nikolai K
          No one will pay us the forfeit, we have forgiven them. :-)

          Technologies, for the sake of which everything was started, Russia seems to have received, so we are not talking about any forfeits.
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      6. Penzyac
        Penzyac 23 August 2015 11: 02
        +1
        Quote: Marxist
        To the question of the Mistrals:
        As I recall, the cost of ships is 1,6 billion euros.
        And the penalty will be only 1,1 billion euros.
        But what about the remaining half a billion?

        Don't worry. Do you think that what was announced out loud is all? Don't you think about "secret protocols"? In addition, they say, we received the technology, the French gave us all the documentation, and this is the main reason why these Mistrals were bought ...
      7. Tambov Wolf
        Tambov Wolf 23 August 2015 11: 07
        +4
        Our guarantor forgave them, felt sorry for the frogs, they feel bad now, but everything is fine with us. Didn’t you hear his speech?
      8. Rusich is not from Kiev
        Rusich is not from Kiev 23 August 2015 12: 32
        0
        The contract was not fulfilled and all the money was not transferred. If I'm not mistaken, we managed to pay about 800-900 million.
        1. Kuzyakin15
          Kuzyakin15 23 August 2015 14: 44
          -3
          Are you sure that they paid us something? Infa passed casually supposedly secretly through SOME com. bank...
          Muddy all this
      9. just exp
        just exp 23 August 2015 14: 31
        0
        for 2 ships paid a little more than 800 million euros.
      10. Kuzyakin15
        Kuzyakin15 23 August 2015 14: 40
        0
        And the rest forgave, as always, that the French would be imbued: how generous we are ....
      11. Altona
        Altona 23 August 2015 16: 23
        0
        Quote: Marxist
        To the question of the Mistrals:
        As I recall, the cost of ships is 1,6 billion euros.

        -------------------------
        It doesn't matter, the main thing is that the Ukrainian army is now "two-mied" ... laughing
      12. Sirocco
        Sirocco 23 August 2015 17: 29
        0
        Apples and uncle in Kiev.
      13. Voha_krim
        Voha_krim 23 August 2015 19: 13
        0
        Quote: Marxist
        As I recall, the cost of ships is 1,6 billion euros.

        Russia gave upfront about 900 million Eurobaks. And over 1.1 billion returned (they even say about 3 billion, but this is a military secret), so Russia even won. laughing As for Potroshenko, these "Mistrals" are already coming out sideways to him. The country is bankrupt and is about to declare a default. hi
      14. KvVtSr
        KvVtSr 23 August 2015 22: 35
        0
        and they, as a rollback, fell into the right pocket even at the stage of signing the contract ...
    2. Conductor
      Conductor 23 August 2015 09: 20
      +7
      If
      About two billion dollars were invested in the modernization of the army and navy.

      then it means- about half a billion dollars settled in the pockets of the oligarchs
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 23 August 2015 10: 57
        +1
        And why only one and a half?
      2. tweezers
        tweezers 23 August 2015 11: 25
        -1
        Quote: Explorer
        If
        About two billion dollars were invested in the modernization of the army and navy.

        I wonder where he got these 2 billion?
        "Was there a boy?" smile
    3. dr.Bo
      dr.Bo 23 August 2015 09: 25
      +4
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      It is right. Any number multiplied by zero will remain zero! At least tens, even hundreds of times.

      Absolutely correct answer !! +
      All combat readiness is based on hatred of the Russians.
      Brainwashed and increased combat readiness (to the first piz. dyulin). hi
    4. aleks700
      aleks700 23 August 2015 10: 09
      +2
      If they were equal to zero they would no longer be. They were given a good opportunity to recover. If it is ridiculous to compare with the Russian army, then with the East Europeans it is possible in favor of Ukraine.
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac 23 August 2015 11: 08
        0
        Quote: aleks700
        If they were equal to zero they would no longer be. They were given a good opportunity to recover. If it is ridiculous to compare with the Russian army, then with the East Europeans it is possible in favor of Ukraine.

        It still won’t save them! ...
        1. aleks700
          aleks700 23 August 2015 12: 40
          0
          Will not save. Only our president can save them.
      2. Rusich is not from Kiev
        Rusich is not from Kiev 23 August 2015 12: 39
        0
        Quote: aleks700
        If they were equal to zero they would no longer be. They were given a good opportunity to recover. If it is ridiculous to compare with the Russian army, then with the East Europeans it is possible in favor of Ukraine.

        There would be more people like you in the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and then they will be provided with eternal boilers bully
    5. siberalt
      siberalt 23 August 2015 11: 21
      +11
      Waltzam drunk again! What else remains for him? laughing
      1. oldzek
        oldzek 23 August 2015 20: 37
        0
        will find he is a talented liar, we’ll not even hear that.
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    7. DMB_95
      DMB_95 23 August 2015 15: 14
      +1
      More precisely, zero, no matter how much you multiply it, will always be zero.
    8. Dejavu
      Dejavu 23 August 2015 18: 13
      +1
      fighting efficiency of the Ukrainian army has grown tenfold


      Interestingly, she at least guesses about it?
    9. Serafim-k
      Serafim-k 23 August 2015 20: 49
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      It is right..

      wassat
  2. Igor39
    Igor39 23 August 2015 08: 56
    +2
    Well, nothing, everything is ahead, a debt of 3 lard to give up or go bankrupt, to buy gas, how long is it interesting to stretch?
    1. smith7
      smith7 23 August 2015 09: 43
      +9
      + Igor39 "Nourish the hopes of young men!" But the "marshal" is not a young man, the "marshal" is an experienced military commander :) Throwing aside the lyrics, it should be said that they will not be allowed to go bankrupt, but they will be given gas somehow. They will be fed at the level of "so they don't die" by the Americans and by the comprador (and maybe even patriotic) forces inside Russia. It is believed that the Ukrainian civil war should slowly smolder until it sucks all the juices out of Russia, or until the thugs kill each other and the people realize their mistake of "European choice." So Poroshenko sings his song correctly when viewed from all sides, except one. On the part of people who lose their loved ones in the war for other people's interests.
      1. Igor39
        Igor39 23 August 2015 10: 01
        0
        If they don’t let them go bankrupt, it’s good, we will get the money back. But from January 1, Ukraine will enter into association with the EU, and the food imbargo of Russia will come into force, Ukraine will lose another income item, so that in any situation they will not have much time left. Another attempt to seize Donbass and provoke Russia into military operations, the only chance to write off their mistakes. So let them jump, it will pass over time, like an orange revolution.
  3. Revolver
    Revolver 23 August 2015 08: 57
    +12
    In what units of measure? In liter degrees to the snout?
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 23 August 2015 09: 01
      +6
      Quote: Nagan
      In what units of measure?

      Apparently in "PSACKS"!
    2. WKS
      WKS 23 August 2015 09: 04
      +4
      From this Poroshenko's chatter, even the gag reflex is tired.
      1. bastard
        bastard 23 August 2015 09: 29
        +3
        Quote: wks
        From this Poroshenko's chatter, even the gag reflex is tired.

        Poroshenko switched to heavy artillery.
        From special literature:
        Hallucinogens are a class of psychoactive substances that cause hallucinations and other altered states of consciousness. These include dissociatives and anticholinergics. Dissociatives prevent the passage of signals from one part of the brain to another, which leads to sensory deprivation and can cause hallucinatory visions. The use of anticholinergics, such as dope can lead to delusional states.
    3. APASUS
      APASUS 23 August 2015 09: 10
      +7
      Quote: Nagan
      In what units of measure? In liter degrees to the snout?

      This is a new French measure of stupidity - 1 Mistral!
      The army is ready for 2 Mistral, here's how to translate it into human language?
      1. veksha50
        veksha50 23 August 2015 09: 48
        +2
        Quote: APASUS
        This is a new French measure of stupidity - 1 Mistral!
        The army is ready for 2 Mistral, here's how to translate it into human language?



        This is just a stupid joke by Russia's halfwit ...

        Like in kindergarten to be measured - who writes further ...
    4. Tanais
      Tanais 23 August 2015 09: 21
      +3
      Quote: Nagan
      In what units of measure?

      ParAShenko has his own "yardstick", but I have my own ... I appreciate the determination and the readiness of the militia to meet "the right way" in the renewed firing at the DPR artillery range, and the MTLB columns going to the West ...

      Today, about a dozen have passed, accompanied by the WAI DPR ... It is a pity I see MTLB and BMP-2 alone.

      But actually, on one of our routes, the light did not converge like a wedge, I hope that SOMETHING, SOMETHING "heavier" goes ...
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 23 August 2015 09: 00
    +3
    Until the end of this year, we will adopt 18 weapons and military equipment, supply more than 300 units of armored vehicles, 400 units of vehicles, 30 000 units of missiles and ammunition, a large number of small arms to the APU.


    Again with a hangover he pushed speech.

    And how many will not reach the front for those reasons?
    And how many will burn the DNI and LC?
    And how much will they sell to the militias for the loot?

    With bookkeeping, with a bitch offal, a little taut. Only it can count its loot.
    1. veksha50
      veksha50 23 August 2015 09: 57
      +1
      Quote: aszzz888
      Again with a hangover he pushed speech.


      Here somehow such a plot pecks ...

      The day before yesterday Petya was drunk and was already ready to give Russia eight (!!!) regions of Ukraine ...

      Today - from a hangover - suddenly the most powerful army in Europe came to him, and he decided not to give up an inch of Urkain’s land, and even intended to bomb the Kerch bridge ...

      Question: What will happen tomorrow ??
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 23 August 2015 10: 01
        +4
        Question: what will happen tomorrow ???


        However, getting drunk again ... crying
  5. atamankko
    atamankko 23 August 2015 09: 00
    +4
    To close his mouth, Peter needs
    fold your tongue dozens of times.
    1. Tanais
      Tanais 23 August 2015 09: 38
      0
      Quote: atamankko
      To close his mouth, Peter needs
      fold your tongue dozens of times.


      He is accustomed to doing this, and does so when told. And he is not alone in "ukrovladi".

      Kiev requested Washington's military assistance 0
      Text: Igor Dunaevsky (Washington)
      23.08.2015, 05: 35

      The Maidan authorities in Ukraine requested military support from the United States for a military operation against the reunification of Crimea with Russia, but the White House recommended that Kiev not unleash an armed confrontation.

      As the Bloomberg news agency reports, citing sources in the American administration, "the interim authorities in Kiev were considering whether to use military force against the Russian military on the peninsula, however from Washington transparently hinted that such a scenario should be avoided". Similar signals were received by the Ukrainians from the EU countries.

      The White House's position was based on several factors, including the "interim status" of the authorities in Kiev after the February 2014 coup, "the inability of the Ukrainian army to confront the Russian military", and "the lack of a clear understanding of what was really going on in Crimea." ... The publication notes that the events on the peninsula "caught the US administration by surprise", and just a day before, analysts of the American special services at a closed meeting with congressmen considered what was happening "a bluff".

      "In Kiev, there was also a discussion on this topic. Some called for the fact that in response to send armed forces to Crimea," the article says. "In particular, the Ukrainian government asked what kind of military assistance the United States could provide." In Ukraine, they proceeded from the assumption that the operation in Crimea would not have had a chance of success "without the rapid and substantial support of the Americans."
      http://rg.ru/2015/08/23/kiev-site.html
    2. veksha50
      veksha50 23 August 2015 09: 57
      +3
      Quote: atamankko
      To close his mouth, Peter needs
      fold your tongue dozens of times.



      But not easier - put it in ... ???
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 23 August 2015 10: 02
        +1

        But not easier - put it in ... ???


        The ingenious decision! laughing
        1. Appraiser
          Appraiser 23 August 2015 10: 54
          +1
          You can even recommend - shove it Lyashko !!!!!! bully
          1. veksha50
            veksha50 23 August 2015 14: 20
            0
            Quote: Appraiser
            You can even recommend - stick it Lyashko !!!!!!



            On a fig to give pleasure to the enemy of Russia ???
      2. Tanais
        Tanais 23 August 2015 10: 03
        0
        Quote: veksha50
        But not easier - put it in ... ???

        He also knows how, but so far they have NOT ORDERED ...
  6. Velesovich
    Velesovich 23 August 2015 09: 06
    +21
    Say what you like, but the combat capability of their army has really increased. First, a considerable amount of equipment has been repaired. Secondly, a large number of people appeared with experience of real combat operations. And this cannot be achieved by any teachings. Before the start of the conflict, the Ukrainian army was an absolutely miserable and incapable rabble. Today everything is different, if you want to live, you will not be so upset (s). So, personally, I would not treat them with a grin and underestimation. Fraught. Once we already "put things in order" in Grozny with one airborne regiment ...
    1. leks
      leks 23 August 2015 09: 15
      +11
      You’ve hit the mark right, you very accurately said that this was not a miserable rabble that was a year ago, and the group they gathered was not weak from 75 to 90 thousand soldiers.
      So if after August 24 they give an order to start an attack, the batch will not be frail.
      Of course, I understand everything, but the militia does not have such reserves as the Ukrainian Armed Forces, so there is no need to engage in hap-hating. "war plan will show"
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 23 August 2015 10: 24
        0
        Of course, I understand everything, but the militia does not have such reserves as the Ukrainian Armed Forces, so there is no need to engage in hap-hating. "war plan will show"


        The war will show, here you are right. But on the account of reserves there is also a question. Dill has already carried out six graves, but could only catch up to 90 thousand snouts. So their reserves are not infinite. And the more losses there are, the thinner the recharge stream will be. Who wants to be buried incomprehensibly for what?
      2. FREGATENKAPITAN
        FREGATENKAPITAN 23 August 2015 19: 04
        0
        At the militia behind the fence Russia! What other reserves are needed? But about the Ukrainian reserves ........ then laughter!
    2. Penetrator
      Penetrator 23 August 2015 09: 32
      +1
      Quote: Velesovic
      So personally, I would not treat them with a grin and underestimation. It is fraught. Once we already "put things in order" in Grozny with one airborne regiment ...

      As for the combat readiness and experience of the Ukrainian army, I completely agree - they really really increased significantly. But the Donbass militia is no longer the same hard workers in training and with double-barreled shotguns, it is already a full-fledged combat-ready army. Especially. that in the event of the beginning of the database, the Russian Federation will provide all possible support.
      1. Marxist
        Marxist 23 August 2015 10: 51
        +4
        Especially. that in the event of the beginning of the database, all kinds of support will be provided by the Russian Federation.

        In the form of what ???
        Another "peace" plan and gas discounts for the junta?
        1. Penetrator
          Penetrator 23 August 2015 11: 21
          -1
          Quote: Marxist
          Especially. that in the event of the beginning of the database, all kinds of support will be provided by the Russian Federation.

          In the form of what ???
          Another "peace" plan and gas discounts for the junta?

          Do you really understand nothing? Then just estimate the amount of artillery ammunition used daily by the armed forces of the DPR and LPR. The account goes to railway trains every day. In your opinion, shells in the Donbass beds grow? And this is just one example ...
    3. veksha50
      veksha50 23 August 2015 10: 14
      +1
      Quote: Velesovic
      So personally, I would not treat them with a grin and underestimation. It is fraught.



      Only an unrealistically thinking person can treat them like that ...

      The jokes have long ended, when the local population without weapons asked them to leave the territory of the Luhansk region and the Donetsk region ...

      Already, the superiority of ukrov over the troops of Novorossia reaches at least three times (well, directly according to the combat charter) ...

      The Javelins went through Lithuania ...

      In general, no matter how they dragged Russia into a direct conflict ... otherwise they might crush the militia by the crowd ...
    4. alicante11
      alicante11 23 August 2015 10: 21
      +1
      Whatever you say, the combat effectiveness of their army has really increased.


      Let's just say the general potential strength, not combat efficiency. Fighting implies soldered units, worked out interaction between the combat arms. An example of the Red Army-41 - the potential is great, but the combat efficiency, as it turned out, is not very. And where dill practiced this interaction? For some reason, I did not see reports of exercises of at least brigade level. IMHO, they were able to train and train the maximum of BTGr, which will operate in isolation from each other, as it was last summer. But then the combat brigades were crushed in accordance with the adopted strategy, and now there will be hopelessness. With the same result.
  7. not Russian
    not Russian 23 August 2015 09: 07
    +9
    Chet I do not understand. Why are they that Poroshenko that Turchinov personally accompany this very weaponry. Afraid of being stolen ahead of time?
    1. AleksUkr
      AleksUkr 23 August 2015 09: 32
      +1
      Quote: non-Russian
      Chet I do not understand. Why are they that Poroshenko that Turchinov personally accompany this very weaponry. Afraid of being stolen ahead of time?


      This is all a SELFIE. The report needs to be sent to the owners. Where the money went, naturally on reforms and on the implementation of Minsk-2.

      And pathos: We will not give up an inch of Ukrainian land, and the key to this is the powerful and well-trained Armed forces of Ukraine!
  8. ROMAN VYSOTSKY
    ROMAN VYSOTSKY 23 August 2015 09: 14
    +1
    Thank God that combat readiness depends not only on the quantity of weapons and the retired loot. All this needs more heads and hands. Heads should be clear and hands not raking. Yes, and we must not fight against our own people. So, for now, the Ukrainian army is an armed herd.
  9. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 23 August 2015 09: 14
    +2
    I think that soon the militias will destroy this myth ...
  10. Name
    Name 23 August 2015 09: 14
    -1
    Well, all the geyropa, do not accept Urinu in the EU, be beaten to you. wassat
  11. sounddoc
    sounddoc 23 August 2015 09: 17
    +13
    The only way to stop the war in the Donbass ....
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 23 August 2015 10: 25
      +6
      Well, there will not be this clown, there will be another. The only way to stop the war in the Donbass is to throw dill out of the Donbass.
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 23 August 2015 11: 19
        0
        Quote: alicante11
        Well, there will not be this clown, there will be another.


        Of course, applicants for the presidential chair have already lined up, and among them are such odious figures as Yarosh, Tymoshenko, Yaytsavnyukh and a dozen more thugs. It was not for nothing that Macacacaine showed up in the Baltic states - we need "support" in case of "force majeure" and an organization to transport lethal weapons to the Nazis. bully yes
  12. moskowit
    moskowit 23 August 2015 09: 21
    0
    But from the taiga to the British seas, Zbrojna’s forces of independence are stronger and stronger! Ryutoviruyut thunder !!! fool wassat
  13. MATROSKIN-53
    MATROSKIN-53 23 August 2015 09: 22
    +10
    Yesterday in Marinka, the Poroshenko army shamefully fled from a dozen militias, abandoning all their weapons! Here you have a tenfold increase in combat efficiency ... Laughter and sin. Sopel would silently into two holes, maybe for a smart would be married. Although it is unlikely ...
    1. Tanais
      Tanais 23 August 2015 09: 51
      +6
      Quote: MATROSKIN-53
      Yesterday in Marinka, the Poroshenko army shamefully fled from a dozen militias, abandoning all their weapons!

      Correct: MARYEVKA(LPR), not from MARINKI(actually a suburb of Donetsk, DPR) ... And so everything is true! yes
  14. a housewife
    a housewife 23 August 2015 09: 22
    +10
    And a person needs so much and little in life - peace, health and joy. We have a holiday in our family: we got our daughter married the day before yesterday, and today my husband and I have a wedding anniversary. They escorted guests, went to the VO - as in another world: war, Ukraine, America ... But when will it all end !!! Do they even have anything human, or just money in the head? Zadolbali !!!!!
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 23 August 2015 09: 29
      +4
      Quote: housewife
      and today my husband and I have a wedding anniversary.

      I heartily congratulate you. love
      1. a housewife
        a housewife 23 August 2015 09: 52
        +1
        Thanks for the congratulation! love
    2. aszzz888
      aszzz888 23 August 2015 10: 07
      +2
      We have a holiday in our family: we got our daughter married the day before yesterday, and today my husband and I have a wedding anniversary


      Please accept my sincere congratulations, All the best !!! soldier
      1. a housewife
        a housewife 23 August 2015 14: 22
        +1
        Thank you! love
  15. mivmim
    mivmim 23 August 2015 09: 26
    +1
    Poroshenko: the combat capability of the Ukrainian army has increased tenfold

    And did he invent this himself, or did someone tell him about this? laughing
    1. veksha50
      veksha50 23 August 2015 10: 16
      0
      Quote: mivmim
      And he invented it, or someone told him about it?



      Saakashvili suggested ... experience, however, having ...
  16. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 23 August 2015 09: 27
    +7
    30 units of missiles and ammunition

    Including, 1 rocket and 29999 rounds of AK. yes
  17. Bourgeois
    Bourgeois 23 August 2015 09: 30
    0
    If gunpowder said that
    Recently, about two billion dollars have been invested in the modernization of the army and navy
    this means that the heels of lards have already been sawn and stolen, and these two claimed will evaporate in the near future)))
  18. BOB044
    BOB044 23 August 2015 09: 43
    0
    It’s interesting, but the people of Ukraine really became stupid so. What does everything this dummy store say to everything?
  19. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 23 August 2015 09: 46
    0
    Already it is growing, no matter how it does not grow ... The strongest army of geyrops, one of the strongest in the world, has been drinking the same positions for a year and a half. Shovels cubic meters of land and considers corpses. Eh Petyunya, Petyunya, you let them go home, all the same, there will be no sense. crying
  20. veksha50
    veksha50 23 August 2015 09: 46
    +9
    "in the modernization of the army and navy, about two billion dollars"...

    Well, right, Russia has nothing to pay for gas, coal and electricity, but there is money for war ...

    Isn't it time for both the GDP and the government to realize the fact that by giving all sorts of preferences to the "brotherly" country, we thereby give the opportunity to continue the war in Donbass ??? We're just paying for part of this war !!!

    On the one hand, there are humanitarian convoys one after another to Donbass, as well as the visa-free provision of housing and earnings on their territory to the "brothers" ... And of these earnings, at least 1,5% go openly in the form of a war tax (i.e. called ATO) !!!

    Stop double-dealing !!! I do not call for the entry of Russian troops into the territory of Ukraine ... I urge the leadership of our country for a complete economic boycott of Ukraine, I urge-stop feeding the fascist regime !!!
    1. KGB WATCH YOU
      KGB WATCH YOU 23 August 2015 14: 55
      -3
      Well, imagine yourself in Poroshenko's place. The partner gives the partner free gas, coal, etc. Why pay for it if it's free? After all, this money can be spent on killing people who, by their stupidity, fell for "Putin, the Russian world, spirituality" (c)
      By the way, he will kill people not just like that, but in accordance with the Minsk Peace Plan (you know who wrote it on his knee).
  21. fa2998
    fa2998 23 August 2015 09: 51
    0
    Quote: Nagan
    In what units of measure?

    Any changes can be measured in quantitative parameters. Well, what about the number of l / s, the number of armored vehicles and aviation, even funding has changed TEN TIMES? Increased hatred of Russia, self-conceit of the Ukrainian leadership, aplomp, and idiocy! yes hi
  22. RiverVV
    RiverVV 23 August 2015 09: 51
    0
    It's funny. Petyunya himself did not understand what he said. "... BILLION DOLLARS." In principle, after that, he can immediately buy a ticket to Washington. Burned the owners, burned to the fullest.
  23. roskot
    roskot 23 August 2015 09: 54
    0
    That's what an oligarch means. He created an army against the people with people's money. It is especially touching that the combat effectiveness of the army has grown tenfold. They said not to pour him.
  24. samarin1969
    samarin1969 23 August 2015 09: 58
    0
    An official NATO statement on the inadmissibility of violating the front line in Ukraine has passed ... For some reason, the Russian Federation was poorly covered ... The offensive is usually prepared in secret .... The speeches of NATO, Poroshenko and Turchinov look like an advertisement for a business project "Defenseless "...

    They are more likely to be strangled for months by shelling, economically and provoke the DNR-LNR army into a futile offensive ...
  25. pvv113
    pvv113 23 August 2015 09: 59
    +1
    Quote: bulvas
    Interestingly, the statements of Poroshenko, anyone, except for part of Ukraine, perceives
    seriously?

    I sometimes get the impression that this pig believes in himself
  26. sl22277
    sl22277 23 August 2015 10: 04
    +1
    "The combat capability of the Dill has increased tenfold," before the first battle. This is the reality: "I personally have such an attitude that I am ready to take arms with pleasure and go to Kiev," said one of the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    The government and generals think that they manage something, but in fact these people are mediocre and cannot manage anything. Not enough for us two boilers?
    This year will be the third, fourth, and maybe fifth. ”
    The soldier also said that in the Ukrainian army there is still a lack of finance, equipment and food.
  27. The boat
    The boat 23 August 2015 10: 27
    +2
    ... We will not give up an inch of Ukrainian land ....
    Now it was funny. Another gun on your thigh - and storm Perekop.
  28. andrei332809
    andrei332809 23 August 2015 10: 33
    +1
    petsyaYu, a tear from a glass. drunkenness has not brought anyone to good yet. yes and the liver is not eternal
  29. roskot
    roskot 23 August 2015 10: 43
    +2
    With such an army, you can go to the galaxy. Heavenly hundred replenish.
  30. Klim2011
    Klim2011 23 August 2015 10: 49
    +10
    Porshenko recently heroically compared himself with Che Guevara fool people immediately responded:
    1. Nikoha.2010
      Nikoha.2010 23 August 2015 11: 37
      +6
      Quote: Klim2011
      Porshenko recently heroically compared himself with Che Guevara fool people immediately responded:

      Poroshenko came to some village, they show him everything, talk about his successes and problems. Suddenly an old grandfather jumps up to him with a poster "Glory to Russia!" Poroshenko, recovering from the shock, asks:
      - And who is this ?!
      - This is Grandfather Panas, a local separatist.
      “So why don't you arrest him?”
      - Well, firstly, he is very old ...
      - And secondly?
      - And secondly, he alone drives the awesome moonshine all over the village, and if he is arrested, then the whole village will stand with such posters tomorrow.
    2. Turkir
      Turkir 23 August 2015 23: 08
      0
      Che Guevara was killed by CIA agents.
      After such a statement, even the CIA will understand that their creature is an ass.
  31. vitaliy.rnd
    vitaliy.rnd 23 August 2015 10: 53
    +5
    At the same time, Poroshenko is confident that the combat effectiveness of the Ukrainian army has grown tenfold.


    Well, that means you’ll dig graves tens of times more.
  32. Belarus
    Belarus 23 August 2015 11: 02
    +1
    I read a very interesting analytical article on one site: http://warfiles.ru/show-94202-doneckiy-kotel.html I recommend everyone to read.

    Here are some examples of quotes:

    The final goal of the Ukrainian offensive is Uspenka, a checkpoint on the Russian-Ukrainian border on the highway Ilovaisk - Amvrosievka - Taganrog, the shortest and most direct road from Russia to Donetsk.


    APU count on a quick breakthrough of the front. This is not even a military, but an exclusively political attitude: the Minsk agreements no longer exist even at the level of propaganda rhetoric.


    In general, it should be noted that the main strategic and political mistake of Kiev is the very fact of the formation of such a huge army group. This is a theatrical gun (if a similar analogy is appropriate), which is required to fire. The political impasse (the army cannot be easily dismissed home) pushes Kiev precisely to a military solution. And some extraordinary diplomatic or political efforts are required to stop this accelerated car.

  33. Dry_T-50
    Dry_T-50 23 August 2015 11: 05
    0
    It doesn't seem like a strong army would have ended up in the 3 (three! Sic!) Boiler
  34. Lelek
    Lelek 23 August 2015 11: 08
    0
    (... the key to this is the powerful and well-trained Armed forces of Ukraine!)

    Prepared (for composting) is good.
    Something after a visit to the West (to the guarantors of peace - Merkel and Hollande) of Pan Pedro's militant rhetoric did not diminish. Probably Bananabama whispered in his ear: "spit and rub." I feel that in the near future Novorossia will have to set the tail of this muzzle peacock on fire once again. I would like to be wrong, but the symptoms speak for it. fool negative
  35. den3080
    den3080 23 August 2015 11: 19
    +2
    I am surprised by the figures that are reported on Russian news: 90 troops, 000 units !!! armored vehicles, 2500 units. heavy artillery, not including MLRS.
    And the whole year they talked about how they can’t do anything in Ukraine, rub each other’s glasses, all armored vehicles put into operation by all plants no more than 200 units ... and she doesn’t drive properly, not so much to shoot. Mobilization (ALL) failed.
    Maybe someone will explain?

    Something after a visit to the west (to the guarantors of the world - Merkel and Hollande) of the militant rhetoric of Pan Pedro did not decrease.

    The visit will only be, dear. Tomorrow begins on August 24th.

    PS. The position of the LDNR is unenviable. The territory is 100 by 150 km, everything is visible through and through, you can't really hide anything (well, there is an "ambush regiment" what ... "in the oak grove") Alarming.
    1. KGB WATCH YOU
      KGB WATCH YOU 23 August 2015 14: 58
      -1
      PS. The position of LDNR is unenviable.

      Exactly. Another state-vane in the rear, on which you are completely dependent. I mean Russia and its already not quite intellectually healthy leadership.
    2. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 23 August 2015 18: 21
      0
      It's like that. Only Poroshenko declared the 250 thousandth army armed with modern, high-precision weapons. We have: the same Ukrainian army as in the spring of 2014, approx. 100 thousand. Armed with the Soviet inheritance, pretty rotten during ownerless storage. What, strange and surprising they say on Russian television ???
    3. Share
      Share 24 August 2015 05: 46
      0
      Also, according to Russian news, they said that arms were supplied to Ukraine from the countries of the former Warsaw Pact, which are now in NATO. We represent how many weapons there are left.
  36. Thomas
    Thomas 23 August 2015 11: 27
    0
    Today, 6 UAH is spent on the maintenance of one Ukrainian soldier. per day, which at the official rate is about 30 US cents. At least on the basis of this, we can already draw the appropriate conclusions about the combat effectiveness of the Armed Forces. Stuffed with old weapons and tons of ammunition, a morally degraded army can win a battle, but not a war.
  37. Nikoha.2010
    Nikoha.2010 23 August 2015 11: 35
    +2
    -Glory to Ukraine!
    -Bad reputation! yes
  38. Alcoholic
    Alcoholic 23 August 2015 11: 40
    0
    Clown cheap wassat
  39. evgmiz
    evgmiz 23 August 2015 11: 42
    0
    Apparently, it's time to downplay this fighting efficiency.
  40. RUSIVAN
    RUSIVAN 23 August 2015 11: 48
    +2
    Poroshenko: the combat effectiveness of the Ukrainian army has grown tenfold.
    And the "boilers" will increase tenfold?!.
  41. den3080
    den3080 23 August 2015 11: 54
    +8
    I am not a strategist of course. But I will express my opinion:

    Neither the so-called first nor second campaign in the Donbass, the kakly did not lose. Unfortunately or not, another question. But in my opinion this is a fact.

    In last year's campaign, the goal was to crush the LPR and push all the "separatists" into Russia or destroy (including women, old people and children). The goal was not achieved. However, the territory of the LDNR has decreased by more than 2 times (Mariupol, Volnovakha, Slavyansk-Kramatorsk, Lisichansk, Rubizhne).

    In the winter campaign this year, the goal was much more modest - to keep Debaltseve and the airport of Donetsk. The goal was not achieved, but they did not retreat enough to not be able to shell Donetsk, Gorlovka, and in general everything that they could shell before the abandonment of Debaltseve.

    At the same time, the goals declared by LDNR remained only statements: to liberate the entire territory of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, or at least to throw the enemy away from the distance from which he could not conduct shelling of the main cities of Donbass. About the trip to Kiev (last year) you can not even remember.

    So somehow everything is not very small in New Russia. I would even say that everything looks very dangerous.
    1. KGB WATCH YOU
      KGB WATCH YOU 23 August 2015 15: 10
      -4
      Especially when the stronghold of the "Russian world" Russia is not a state with a firm position, but a weather vane. It is worn with its Minsk shame (the very same created).

      And here's more from the world of "respected partners".

      “Touching unity”, oil on canvas, year 2015:
      Putin, August 18: “As for the Minsk-2 agreements, I believe that there is no other alternative”
      Poroshenko, August 22: "The Minsk agreements gave us a head start and time to strengthen our defense capabilities."
  42. roskot
    roskot 23 August 2015 12: 05
    0
    Do not eat, do not sleep. Arms the whole army. Peacemaker.
  43. Grigorievich
    Grigorievich 23 August 2015 12: 06
    +2
    Again, I found the keys to the bar, so it happened wassat
  44. PValery53
    PValery53 23 August 2015 12: 11
    0
    Since Poroshonka lacks a political mind (wisdom), then in captivity it should be used only in physical work: a shovel, a wheelbarrow and a jigsaw.
    1. dsi
      dsi 23 August 2015 19: 38
      0
      spade, wheelbarrow and jigsaw.

      ... and again this bastard, will make candy ...
  45. Aandrewsir
    Aandrewsir 23 August 2015 12: 16
    +1
    The combat effectiveness of the ukroarmii has grown in tens ... no, hundreds, thousands, millions, billions ... no, ten times a thousandth! We will tear and destroy everyone !!! Recorded? And now between us. Again, half of these warriors got drunk and fled to rob the locals and look for "quilted jackets" among them? What? Can't drive armored vehicles? Are they trying to sort things out among themselves? Hiding from the call? Don't tell anyone! Our "great u ... kry" should not know this! What? There are no greats at ... shelter? There are! There are !!! There are !!! We will scare them all !!! The main thing is not to be afraid of yourself!
  46. cergey51046
    cergey51046 23 August 2015 12: 53
    0
    With delirium tremens, it can also be imagined.
  47. marlin1203
    marlin1203 23 August 2015 13: 08
    +1
    Do not count your chickens before they are hatched. This wisdom is perhaps more relevant now than ever. Let's see what will be the alignment by November and "hibernation". So far, one fortune-telling on the coffee grounds. The fact is that the Ukrainian authorities have collected a lot of people and iron, and if it starts to move, is it skillfully artless, the LDNR will have big troubles. In any case, there are fewer of them, and the enemy is already beaten and careful.
  48. Knight Rider
    Knight Rider 23 August 2015 13: 25
    +1
    At a military airfield in Chuguev, Kharkiv Region, on August 22, 2015, a ceremony was presented to present the personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) and other Ukrainian law enforcement agencies with the participation of the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko and the Supreme Command of the AFU.

    In total, about 250 units of new or repaired equipment were transferred, including:

    25 tanks BM "Bulat", T-64B, T-72A, T-80B
    seven combat vehicles 122-mm MLRS BM-21 "Grad"
    five combat vehicles SAM "Osa-AKM"
    five 203-mm self-propelled guns 2S7 "Pion"
    seven 122-mm self-propelled howitzers 2S1 "Gvozdika"
    20 cars HMMWV
    20 infantry fighting vehicles BMP-2 and BMP-1
    four armored personnel carriers BTR-3E1
    two armored personnel carriers BTR-4E
    15 towed 100-mm MT-12 anti-tank guns and 152-mm howitzers 2A65 "Msta-B"
    30 KrAZ tractors
    25 onboard KrAZ vehicles
    10 MAZ tractors, and other weapons and military equipment ...
    Nekhilo so passed. what
    1. Alexs1833
      Alexs1833 23 August 2015 13: 46
      +1
      Well, crosses on technology already.
    2. sabakina
      sabakina 23 August 2015 15: 31
      +2
      1. I can still understand "Lenin on an armored car", but Poroshenko on a semitrailer .... Mama mia !!!!
      2. I remember that in Yugoslav, Nato contracted ordinary truckers to transport Abrams ... Judging by the video, Bulat is so cool that no one except MAZ can transport it .... laughing
    3. IAlex
      IAlex 23 August 2015 16: 31
      0
      And they are quite downs, hiding under the maskset, in the middle of a gray concrete polygon ???
  49. Karayakupovo
    Karayakupovo 23 August 2015 13: 38
    0
    Prior to that, he stated that the Ukroarmiya took 5th place in the world in terms of combat effectiveness. And now he declares that the combat capability has increased tenfold. Soon the Ukroarmiya, according to the statements of "Poproshenko", will be the most powerful in the entire Galaxy. It is necessary to have a snack, as smart people say.
  50. sinukvl
    sinukvl 23 August 2015 13: 39
    +6
    Well, at the expense of increased combat readiness. Zero multiplied by at least ten even by one hundred, in the end will give zero.