Former CIA analyst: US intelligence has no evidence of militia involvement in Boeing crash near Donetsk

Former CIA analyst Ray McGovern said that the US intelligence services do not have any evidence that the plane of the Malaysian airline was shot down by Donetsk militiamen. According to McGovern, who is well aware of the working methods of the Central Intelligence Agency of the United States, if the CIA had at least one proof of the guilt of the militia, the United States would have shown it to the whole world long ago. Reports about it Russia Today.

According to the ex-analyst of the CIA, American intelligence does not want to lose face and call “evidence” what the US State Department is trying to expose.

McGovern, who has worked for 27 for years at the CIA administration, states:

We invest $ 90 billion per year in US intelligence, and when it comes down to it, do we have to rely on social networks? This evidence is as vague as possible. If the CIA had evidence, they would have trumpeted about it from all roofs.

At the same time, the ex-analyst of the Central Intelligence Agency of the United States notes that the so-called “Governmental assessment” of the Boeing-777 crash near Donetsk, published by the United States a few days after the tragedy, is a political document that no analyst of the American intelligence service subscribed to. .

Comments

[Andrea]

The former, as always, are cutting the uterus. It would be good for Obama to set the brains.
And without you guessed who needed it. The case is small, but the most difficult is to declare zasr ... ev.

[Conductor]

Quote: Andrea

The former, as always, are cutting the uterus.

And what is so unusual in his statement?

If the CIA had evidence, they would have trumpeted it from every roof.

it's obvious.

[Eugene-Eugene]

American intelligence has no evidence

Somehow unexpected

[Baikonur]

US intelligence does not want to lose face and call “evidence” what the US Department of State is trying to expose as such

It turns out that American intelligence is a blind eye, and the State Department is an uncontrolled mouth! And all this - on the head of the BAR, in which there is a dull brain, to which they do not obey! Severe stroke!

[meriem1]

Nooo. Everything is filmed and documented. Only the truth will be declassified in 30-50 years. Then it will become irrelevant. This stroke is played out, like a straight in poker without a single card. Only stupid does not see.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: meriem1

Only the truth will be declassified in 30-50 years. Then it will become irrelevant.

Exactly. 70 with more than a percent of Americans consider the Warren Commission report a complete linden tree. And who is now interested in this? And about 30% linden is considered the investigation of September 11. There is also something to not believe. Rather, there is nothing to believe. And nothing changes either. The CIA, the FBI, and with them another two dozen of these offices live less and smell like cologne.

[alexander 2]

Many circumstances of the death of a South Korean Boeing that was shot down in 1983 by a Soviet fighter are still classified by amers. And what the former CIA analyst says is open secret.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Alexander 2

Many circumstances of the death of a South Korean Boeing shot down in 1983 by a Soviet fighter classified amers still.

What is classified by the Americans - we have long known. And that there were 20 times less corpses than South Korea announced, and there were no suitcases, and the most experienced pilot who had flown this route for 10 years SUDDENLY with good onboard navigation and working dispatch services deviated from the course by 700 (!!! !) kilometers ... The plane took off from Alaska empty (well, with a crew, of course). The goal is to transfer the Soviet radar stations to active mode and to "illuminate" them by a tracking ship located in neutral waters.

Naturally, these facts prevent America from painting the image of the bloodthirsty Soviet monster, who in cold blood destroyed a civilian plane. So they are classified. In America, but not with us. Even then, our people invited Americans and Koreans to the crash site, and the Americans were surprised that there were no suitcases on the water. This is just a new American intelligence tactic. It appeared after it became clear to them that a military plane would be shot down at any altitude. And then "a civilian type." If they don't let you go, you can always inflate the story of the "bloodthirsty Soviets" ...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Baikonur

It turns out that American intelligence is a blind eye, and the State Department is an uncontrolled mouth! And all this is on the head of the BAR, in which there is a dull brain,

And it all grows on one big zhzhzhzh ....., which is called America and nothing but the fact that this organ is capable of producing does not produce.

[tomket]

Quote: Eugene-Eugene

American intelligence has no evidence

Yasin Krasin!

[Infinity]

It seems to me that this Boeing will remind itself for a long time. All parties will refute each other's evidence and arguments ...
The militia did not have "Buks", because if they did, they would have used them before Boeing. Moreover, there are no combat aircraft.

Quote: Explorer

If the CIA had evidence, they would have trumpeted it from every roof.

That's it. And they immediately began to say who "did" it

[Skif83]

Yes, and without the former it is clear that if the Amerov or Europeans had evidence of the guilt of New Russia or Russia, the howl would be for the whole world.
Actually, this is evidence of the innocence of Russia and the DPR, LPR.

[meriem1]

Skif83 (2) Similarly, Brother! A screech would stand above heaven!

[drago36]

Yes, yes, that's exactly what I want to say THANKS KEP)

[redeemer]

he is an employee. though the former. and therefore hides the main secret. there was no plane.
that is why the shooter turned into what he turned into. that is why all the other misunderstandings. and you are all smart people, learn to keep your eyes open. and then ... you ssy in the eye, but you all ...........

[Eugene-Eugene]

Familiar canvas of reasoning

[Blackgrifon]

Quote: Andrea

The former, as always, are cutting the uterus. It would be good for Obama to set the brains.

If it was Obama ... In addition to the president, there are a number of large oligarchic families in the United States tied to the military-industrial complex and the oil industry. So they are interested in everything.

[sever.56]

The key word is a former analyst. The current CIA officer will never say that.
Snowden, an active intelligence officer, is an exception, and miraculously escaped. Everyone understands perfectly well that when you try to present objective information, they simply disappear without a trace. And, it has long been clear that if there were real evidence that Russia or the LDNR shot down Boeing, it would have been posted on all resources and in all media. But the dill worked so stupidly that even after a year, they cannot cook up more or less usable misinformation. I think that they will put the brakes on this case, due to the lack of evidence of anyone's guilt. And the sanctions will remain, no apologies will follow.

[veksha50]

Quote: sever.56

I think this is the thing they let go on the brakes, in the absence of evidence of anyone's guilt.

Hmm ... So many whistles and barks for the whole world ... "The greatest crime" of the century ... Urgently convene a tribunal, attract and punish those responsible ...

So I think: what kind of brakes do you need to invent ???


"in the absence of proof of anyone's guilt" ...

And the fact that the Ukrainian dispatchers sent a civilian plane with a deviation from the course into the war zone - is there also no fault to be seen ???

PS It is most surprising here that Piglet jumped most of all around the idea of ​​creating a tribunal and convicting the guilty ... After all, here his ears, as the president of the country over whose territory this Boeing was shot down, stick out ...
Or will he try to dump everything on Benya Kolomoisky ???

[sever.56]

Quote: veksha50

"in the absence of proof of anyone's guilt" ...

And the fact that the Ukrainian dispatchers sent a civilian plane with a deviation from the course into the war zone is also not a fault

Yes, everything will be done according to the old scheme; - "They are dogs' children, but - our people."

[Voha_krim]

Quote: sever.56

The key word is a former analyst.

Well, former analysts, as well as former CIA officers, KGB officers, airborne troops, and so on, other things, nothing else! What's interesting: all EXs comment somehow "correctly"! It turns out when they "work" (they get the money, it is known from where) all this shushara says one thing (under a dose or under a high), and after the resignation in their heads the fog disperses (no longer dependent on money "from there"), they start saying smart things !! !

[Altona]

The ironic revelation of Comrade Stalin immediately comes to mind: “I always thought that democracy is the power of the people. But Mr. Roosevelt explained to me popularly that democracy is the power of the American people. ”

[mast]

One valid truth said. And where is he now? Sits in Moscow.

[vorobey]

Quote: mast

One valid truth said. And where is he now? Sits in Moscow.

not ... sitting the one who is in America (Bradley Mening) and who lives in Moscow ... you feel the difference,

[vorobey]

Quote: mast

One valid truth said. And where is he now? Sits in Moscow.

not ... sitting the one who is in America (Bradley Mening) and who lives in Moscow ... you feel the difference,

[svp67]

Former CIA analyst: US intelligence has no evidence of militia involvement in Boeing crash near Donetsk

But there is exact information about the involvement of the Ukrainian authorities, and there is no exact information, but what does Russia know and what confirmed information has. That is why the "independent" Dutch "experts", with their English colleagues, are silent and everything is postponing and postponing the dates of the announcement of the investigation.

[veksha50]

Quote: svp67

they are silent and everyone postpones and postpones the announcement of the investigation.

Announce in 10 years, when the inscription appears on the rusty wreckage of the plane: Putin hit me ...

[020205]

Interestingly, American analysts, intelligence and the military begin to think adequately only after retirement!

[Shpagolom]

.... there is nothing interesting, it is more important for us that officials of the State Department, or the CIA, declare something like that! And so - just idle talk, from the category "maybe so" .... "or maybe just like that" ..... and then one of those caught in the "bull's-eye" will say ... - Well, I told you "!! !!

[Amurets]

They think normally, but for the sake of a career they report what the authorities want to hear. Our bureaucrats also. Why did Putin personally come to the regions from the beginning, examine and give a command. And then he comes and checks who lied to him

[surovts.valery]

Former CIA analyst Ray McGovern said that US intelligence does not have any evidence that the plane of the Malaysian airline was shot down by Donetsk militias.

And then we do not know about it, thanks, enlightened. But the fact that they (the US intelligence services) know who shot down the Malaysian Boeing did not say anything. And why, we already know about it. Is it hard to say who shot it down? Him as a former.

[AIR ZNAK]

Attempts to whitewash a black cat always ended in nothing. Who would have thought that the downed Tu-154 of Siberia Airlines over the Black Sea is only the beginning of lawlessness UkroPVO

[kimyth1]

This is a no brainer !!! if Cho had long been the psaki and nuland migrated to the whole world !!!

[marlin1203]

If they want it, they will show the whole world another "test tube with white powder" and the soul rushed over the bumps. And so, while they are apparently afraid, they wait.

[EvgNik]

Sits, lives, what matters to us. The plane was shot down by the shtatovtsy and the case is over. If someone does not believe - I will give in the face. And not to court.

[Strashila]

If there was evidence of the involvement of the militias ... then they would have been published at the time of the death of the Boeing.
As with the Korean Boeing ... the speeches against the USSR began earlier than the announcement of this event, a certain lead to drive a certain idea into the world community.
And here only a chatter ... after all, the Americans watched this situation from satellites, and the NATO through AWACS ... and silence.

[rf xnumx]

Government Assessment "crash" Boeing-777 "near Donetsk, published by the United States

We know your rating

[Nahum]

Mattress toppers with their mongrels do not want to become a world laughing stock. Of course, they can invent "proofs" of the guilt of Russia or the militias. But ... This bubble will burst immediately and "loss of face" is inevitable. Although, what a face here. Pork snout ...

[LUNZ]

Quote: Naum

Mattress toppers with their mongrels do not want to become a world laughing stock. Of course, they can invent "proofs" of the guilt of Russia or the militias. But ... This bubble will burst immediately and "loss of face" is inevitable. Although, what a face here. Pork snout ...

Why then help them? it was necessary to vote for an international tribunal, so let the whole world disgrace themselves with the "soap bubble" at it, while the Russian Federation is 100% sure of its innocence ?!

[combat66]

Tribunals are created for losers. I have not noticed yet that Russia is losing. And to help them, to disturb with a spoon, let them find someone easier.

[VNP1958PVN]

It is sadder that there is no evidence of a former analyst's involvement in the CIA

[NDR-791]

if the CIA had at least one evidence of the guilt of the militias on its hands, then the United States would have shown it to the whole world long ago.
it is a political document that not a single American intelligence analyst has signed up to.
Well this is really SO! Another thing is that there is evidence of others about which it is equally necessary to remain silent ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

American intelligence has no evidence of the involvement of the militia in the Boeing crash near Donetsk

It would have been a long time since they confused Russia and the militias, that's why they are pulling, because the Dutch are postponing the publication of the investigation data (if at all)

[APASUS]

If the Americans had clear evidence, then Putin would have been tried in absentia, Russia wasn’t completely disconnected from SWIFT, but in full .......... Now the Americans are dragging on time and if the DPR LPR won the war, then it won’t be so Actually - who? But if they lose, they will find a dozen soldiers who confess even to killing Kennedy!

[Masya masya]

In those Nate, but not really? I read the headline, I could not believe my eyes!

[Prisoner]

And what is hidden. And why would it? And the Dutch scored water in their mouths. If there had been a militia, at least some doubts would have raised a roar, but they have died out.

[MATROSKIN-53]

Yes, this is already clear to all sane citizens. There is nothing to cover, here they are puffing like turkeys. Lying nerds! Okay, soon everything will fall into place and it will be clear hu from hu. They will break the DNR’s ukrofashistsky junta, various foreign advisers and mercenaries will flee from the territory of Ukraine, and then other songs will be sung ...

[roskot]

The States do not know, but Potroshenko knew in two days who shot down. And Washington too. One bunch.

[Bayonet]

And what, still do not understand ???? There is no proof. What is this "article" for? I sometimes bastard from the stupidity of some "authors" !!!!!!!!!!!! If you do not already know what to write about - let's jokes ........ Well, stupid! !!!

[arane]

Quote: AIR-ZNAK

Attempts to whitewash a black cat always ended in nothing. Who would have thought that the downed Tu-154 of Siberia Airlines over the Black Sea is only the beginning of lawlessness UkroPVO

Absolutely right! As I wrote about this! There was a similar case with Ukraine brought down our Tu-154! Shot down, it seems, with the c-200 complex!
No matter! That missile has a warhead similar to a beech rocket! On the Internet there is an official report of the commission of inquiry, which describes the damage and traces of the rocket! About the same would be from a beech rocket! If they are silent, then the plane is not shot down from the ground! Since there are no damages characteristic of beech!

[tol100v]

The SGA wanted to kill three birds with one stone, but nothing came of it! Board number 1 landed calmly. MH - calmly fell. The guilt of the militia dropped to zero. And to show your involvement in this catastrophe is like death. Conclusion: Potroshenko and his junta are coming out to blame for everything! A little more and he will be merged along with all his crimes! And they can merge with an "unfortunate heroic incident" so that they don't get into a conversation!

[bmv04636]

as I understand it, we have a second set of black boxes from the Boeing. There is also an interception of negotiations between pilots and controllers.

[bsk_mna54]

Everyone knows that neither Russia nor LDNR brought down a Boeing. But Obama and the Queen of Holland do not know about this: they forgot to inform. They will not forget to be at another time, but to be such a secret path, it is forbidden to inform the leaders of the European and Anglo-Saxon countries. A habit, however !!!

[redeemer]

Well, stupid people !!!!!!!
I was hoping, though in VO, there are sane ....
yearning

[uizik]

American intelligence knows, Russian must know! Previously, all air targets at a range of 200 km. to the border of the USSR were identified and accompanied by air defense and RTR! Now opportunities have increased significantly.

[konvalval]

This without analysts was clear even to a hedgehog.

[Barakuda]

And why are all the former Is it something to tell the truth when in power?

[Asadullah]

Former CIA Analyst

There is no need to be a current analyst. If there was evidence, then they would have been posted immediately. Even they did not bargain with Russia, for such evidence in the current situation is priceless. They would hide the possible evidence of involvement of the Armed Forces .... and then the bread.

[3vs]

And these people are telling us something about corruption!
Yes, we are children in comparison with the thieving naglosaksami!

[COBOK]

In USants live, if SUCH "revelations" are given by ANALYST ... Yes, my cat, shitting past the pot, is quite rolling into the position of the head of the department of Northern European countries of the CIA.

[atamankko]

The truth will come out, but when?

[andrei332809]

Quote: atamankko

The truth will come out, but when?

that's the truth ... of life

[I am]

How is it when? Well, they’ll take the troops of the Russian Federation, Washington, there are national archives. Comrades from the FSB will come and get this very truth from there. .... but at the same time there are a lot of interesting things !!!!

[alexander 2]

Quote: redeemer

he is an employee. though the former. and therefore hides the main secret. there was no plane.
that is why the shooter turned into what he turned into. that is why all the other misunderstandings. and you are all smart people, learn to keep your eyes open. and then ... you ssy in the eye, but you all ...........

How self-critical.

[mamont5]

"Former CIA analyst: American intelligence has no evidence of the involvement of militias in the Boeing crash near Donetsk"

And who would doubt it? If there was anything, then the United States would have long ago presented the world under the screech of its jackals.

[scorpiosys]

People live everywhere. Not everyone is "obFashingtoned" yet. And this is good news.

[Old26]

Quote: Baikonur

It turns out that American intelligence is a blind eye, and the State Department is an uncontrolled mouth!

Not. This means only one thing, that intelligence has no evidence that the militia shot down the plane. But the fact that the State Department has an uncontrolled mouth - here I agree with you. Blur that without hitting. But who and when listened to intelligence, when it came to political dividends ..

Quote: Barracuda

And why is all the former Piss something to tell the truth when in power?

Would you tell us if you were in his place? Even knowing that you will at least be kicked out of your job with a "wolf ticket", at best they will go to jail, and at worst you will simply disappear? Would you tell me anyway?
Moreover, he did not say anything unusual. Just knowing the kitchen, he said what he said: if there were evidence, they would produce

Quote: I am

How is it when? Well, they’ll take the troops of the Russian Federation, Washington, there are national archives. Comrades from the FSB will come and get this very truth from there. .... but at the same time there are a lot of interesting things !!!!

I understand the evening of the tyrannies, sorry, Fridays. But your dreams are somehow impossible ....

[scorpiosys]

The main idea of ​​"liberalism" is a person above society, above all !!! So they (crap) are reaping their idea ... Whatever "person" is in their "power", then GAMNO.
A deep sense of the "self-sufficiency of the talking head".

[Vitali-1985]

The public has a difficult relationship with time. Eternal conflict: everyone wants to formulate an opinion and express it immediately, but reliable information is usually received very late. Because of this, public opinion is formed on the basis of rumors, conjectures and, often, frank throws - and when the truth nevertheless comes up, it often turns out that the moment is missed, and many are too lazy to recall the events of many months ago.

This is with the plane that crashed a month ago in the Alps, everything became clear a few days later: there was no policy around that crash, and all the information became available to experts almost immediately.

But with the Boeing shot down over Ukraine a year ago, alas, it turned out to be not so simple. Part of the information - for example, negotiations between pilots and controllers - was simply hidden for a long time. They tried to falsify some information. Several fakes of varying degrees of elaboration were thrown into the network. At least one of which, with a “satellite image”

[Vitali-1985]

Ukraine did not close the sky during the war - money is more important than these Dutch
Ukraine did not provide a reason for the change in course, led to a beech?
Ukraine did not provide dispatcher negotiations
Ukraine provided a video with a beech on the border with Russia, which was immediately proved by fake
Ukraine for several days did not allow European experts to Boeing
Ukrov is not interested in mathematical calculations, which they cannot refute
US does not provide satellite images allegedly alleging guilt of the militia
Russia provided pictures of the location of beech complexes in the dill
Russia provided pictures of the SU plane, which Ukrainians also did not refute with facts
Su just could be in case the beech does not fall, Ukrainians hide it
Ukraine did not investigate anything at all in a year and a half, but ukrov is always to blame for everything but them

[Aleksej49]

That set of information on the downed; Boeing; which is known to us and of which many still suspect, gives reason to state with all certainty that the deaths of people on the MH-17 flight lie entirely with Ukrainian warriors.

[NordUral]

What is there to twist, she just has the knowledge of real events. But unpleasant knowledge for them, and for the Outskirts.

[soratnik]

How long can you chew this dry about the crash of the liner near Donetsk. Let's wait for the results of the "investigation". Are there no other topics?

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[Bor]

This and the fool understands that it would be something to lay out - they would have laid out. The question is different. Do they have strong evidence who really hit or not? And the second question: if the CIA has it, then why don’t we have it?

[Serhio]

Quote: bmv04636

as I understand it, we have a second set of black boxes from the Boeing. There is also an interception of negotiations between pilots and controllers.

It is difficult to say that, but Russia certainly has some weighty arguments.

[Serhio]

Quote: COBOK

In USants live, if SUCH "revelations" are given by ANALYST ... Yes, my cat, shitting past the pot, is quite rolling into the position of the head of the department of Northern European countries of the CIA.

Immediately obvious, this cat got you!)))