Israeli "expert": "The strength of the Russian army is too exaggerated"

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News Israel portal mako.co.il writes that the West fears the Russian army in vain. According to the author of the material, the Russian army is a horror story, but no more. It turns out that Vladimir Putin “is trying to intimidate the world with a rusting army,” as the Israeli “analyst” writes in his material.

According to the representative mako.co.il, the Russian armed forces are “a soap bubble that inflates Putin to increase its importance in the eyes of the world community.”

Israeli portal, translation of extracts from the article in which it represents InoTV:
Putin sends his soldiers to fight in different parts of the world, such as in Georgia or Ukraine. According to the Ukrainian side, Russia is burning the bodies of the dead military, so that in no case will it recognize its participation in the Ukrainian conflict. Russia spends only about 80-90 billion dollars in defense, while the United States spends about 500 billion dollars. Russian submarines are rusting, planes are being scrapped, and many projects are stuck in the planning phase.


Israeli "expert": "The strength of the Russian army is too exaggerated"


In addition, the Israeli "specialist" writes that Russian soldiers are constantly dying "from bullying," Russian military aircraft fall more often than NATO aircraft. Generally, mako.co.il issued material that, apparently, is a kind of appeal to the world community: “why are you afraid of Russia? ..” Appeal with the simultaneous assertion that the American army is knights and light elves, and the Russian army is “ crime and chaos. Moreover, it is also a kind of call to action against Russia: “if the army“ rusts ”, then it’s time to move on to active attacking steps against Russia.”

But only the barking of anti-Russian media has long become familiar to Russia. The main thing is to achieve the planned result, improve the security system, and let the opinions of Israeli and other "specialists" on the weakness of the Russian army warm the soul and calm the "friends" of Russia, because it becomes more difficult to objectively evaluate things "friends".
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  1. Ugh on you, Mr. Israeli "expert".
    1. +33
      20 August 2015 09: 04
      Where is the Israeli expert Atalef? I'd love to hear his detailed, extended opinion! 10 pages hi
      1. +15
        20 August 2015 09: 06
        Quote: Baikonur
        Where is the Atalef expert?

        Now a portion of the minuses from the good forum users will come.
        1. +15
          20 August 2015 09: 09
          Why comment on this magazine?
          1. +71
            20 August 2015 09: 15
            According to the Ukrainian side, ....


            A Jew referring to today's "Ukrainian side" is undoubtedly a serious argument.
            1. +28
              20 August 2015 09: 34
              Quote: Alexkorzun
              According to the Ukrainian side, ....


              A Jew referring to today's "Ukrainian side" is undoubtedly a serious argument.


              huh! Especially about "burning in ovens" - a sacred strawberry for a Jew.
              1. +9
                20 August 2015 09: 54
                A little more and they will say that the Russians burned their soldiers in the 6 000 000 furnaces)))))
                1. +2
                  21 August 2015 03: 13
                  "... they burned 6 of their soldiers in the ovens))))) ..."


                  - So do you orient the Holocaust? laughing In the Germans, for such conversations there is a real term. Democracy and freedom, ful ...
          2. +54
            20 August 2015 09: 33
            Quote: Telakh
            Why comment on this magazine?

            Is that a question? Comment mako.co.il will not be a single lover of military subjects from Israel. You would still publish a link to Debka. Pull yourself all jaundice and themselves are offended.
            1. +3
              20 August 2015 09: 39
              Quote: Aron Zaavi
              None mako.co.il will be a single lover of military subjects from Israel.

              What is it, maco.co.il.-fake meter like the Ukrainian Censor?
              1. +7
                20 August 2015 09: 43
                Quote: Sukhoy_T-50
                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                None mako.co.il will be a single lover of military subjects from Israel.

                What is it, maco.co.il.-fake meter like the Ukrainian Censor?

                It is about everything and about nothing. Normal internet reading.
                1. +1
                  20 August 2015 18: 44
                  There is a propaganda war, so everything is fine.
            2. +3
              20 August 2015 10: 22
              Quote: Aaron Zawi
              Quote: Telakh
              Why comment on this magazine?

              Is that a question? Comment mako.co.il will not be a single lover of military subjects from Israel. You would still publish a link to Debka. Pull yourself all jaundice and themselves are offended.


              Well, someone who has not left his signature loves to make "stuffing" apparently.
              By the way - even if they gave the link. shoveled this mako and have not yet found this article to read in the original.
              1. -3
                20 August 2015 11: 21
                They will remove you from here, dear man and write
                He knew too much ...
            3. +6
              20 August 2015 13: 11
              Hi Aaronchik! And what are you repainted in the Russians? Has your pride in your homeland ended? Or disguise yourself?
              1. +6
                20 August 2015 18: 08
                Quote: Hedgehog
                Hi Aaronchik! And what are you repainted in the Russians? Has your pride in your homeland ended? Or disguise yourself?

                I'm up to 25. Numbers in the Russian Federation. The flag has automatically changed.
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                2. +3
                  20 August 2015 19: 24
                  Quote: Aron Zaavi
                  The flag has automatically changed.

                  So say that I came to rest from the heat. fellow
            4. 0
              20 August 2015 20: 54
              [quote = Aron Zawi]
              I understood correctly, you have a Russian flag?
            5. +3
              20 August 2015 21: 58
              Quote: Aaron Zawi
              Quote: Telakh
              Why comment on this magazine?

              Is that a question? Comment mako.co.il will not be a single lover of military subjects from Israel. You would still publish a link to Debka. Pull yourself all jaundice and themselves are offended.

              Here it’s even cooler, the links are retired, even to Mako, where they write quite a lot of nonsense, but the author didn’t even bother to, say, Vatnik! Your work?
          3. +7
            20 August 2015 10: 11
            Quote: Telakh
            Why comment on this magazine?


            question /// does kosher fat happen?

            And I want to break Russia, and it’s scary to get Lyuli in return ...
            1. +2
              20 August 2015 12: 54
              Quote: vorobey
              Does kosher fat happen?

              Kaneshna! Goose, for example, is intended kosher laughing .
            2. +6
              20 August 2015 18: 29
              Quote: vorobey
              Does kosher fat happen?


              There are two Jewish proverbs:
              1. For free - everything is kosher!
              2. If there is pork - then so that even flowed down the beard!
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          5. +2
            20 August 2015 12: 04
            Quote: Telakh
            Why comment on this magazine?

            Only then can it be explained that in response to the constant shouting of Israeli media to Russia, the Kremlin responds with an even more lackey policy towards Tel Aviv ... visa-free entry, dual citizenship, unlimited construction of synagogues and closed Jewish schools, construction of holocaust temples in Russia? Maybe it's time to limit?
          6. +7
            20 August 2015 15: 48
            Quote: Telakh
            Why comment on this magazine?



            Generally not clear .. why this .. "article"? Already that "yellow tabloid scribbles" are going?
            To the reputable SITE Administration, the question is WHY and FOR WHAT PURPOSE? soldier
            1. +2
              20 August 2015 20: 51
              Quote: ancient
              To the reputable SITE Administration, the question is WHY and FOR WHAT PURPOSE?


              and neighing? you are an old stump at all all on a smart boy and on a smart boy ... Serge ... you can't take your real life seriously ... the roof will move ... tongue drinks

              I asked about kosher fat ... I wonder what the article was calculated for and by whose order it was written ... if in Ukraine itself the fat deficit arose ... belay
        2. +5
          20 August 2015 11: 29
          ..... Where is Atalef expert?
          Now a portion of the minuses from the good forum users will come ....

          .... Yes, it is not necessary to spread rot !!!! ..... Not everything is indisputable about what he writes .... But everyone has the right and opportunity to HIS opinion .... hi
          1. +4
            20 August 2015 13: 42
            And everyone has the right and the opportunity to object to him. But to object is not to spread rot.
      2. +6
        20 August 2015 09: 46
        Or maybe Atalef is this very Israeli expert ... ??? wassat laughing tongue
        1. +1
          20 August 2015 11: 54
          Quote: igor1981
          Or maybe Atalef is this very Israeli expert ... ??? wassat laughing tongue

          No, this article was not written by Atalef. Military Review allows you to view the publications and comments of any user. But if you search, you can calculate "this author". It just takes some time for that.
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      4. +2
        20 August 2015 21: 55
        Quote: Baikonur
        Where is the Israeli expert Atalef? I'd love to hear his detailed, extended opinion! 10 pages hi

        I would very much like to get a reference to the original and it is advisable to voice the name of the expert, and so it looks like a work by Vatnik and Co., there’s nothing to discuss, the author’s verbiage, without the slightest reference to the original (if there was one)
        Ч
        Bullshit!
    2. +13
      20 August 2015 09: 05
      Quote: Salavat EMERCOM
      Ugh on you, mister "expert".

      And from me 2 more Ugh.
    3. +4
      20 August 2015 09: 07
      then let them withdraw all sanctions and withdraw NATO troops from the borders of Russia
    4. +16
      20 August 2015 09: 08
      Let them think so, we are weak and worthless. But something they are not eager to test our worthlessness - bench press point
      1. +5
        20 August 2015 12: 27
        "The strength of the Russian army is too exaggerated" ?!

        In fact, it is customary to express such judgments after defeating this army.
        There are actually no such people in the world. And those who want to test the RF Armed Forces too.
        Something Israel is completely from reality, following its master breaks away (it is completely forgotten that Comrade I.V. Stalin, from his generosity and philanthropy, allowed this state to be created).
        The Jews are obliged to pray to Russia. But no, there too - they strive for mongrel.

        You Jews, by any chance, have not lost your memory. Following the results of World War II, the USSR Army (and its legal successor, Russia) is the strongest in the world. And we honor traditions.

        Even Americans, and those critical of themselves. Do not be shy. NATO, in general and immediately, says that if it’s not in business, it will not pull Russia. The instinct of self-preservation and historical memory are painfully reminiscent of oneself.

        But now, for some reason, if the Russian military-political leadership says that the forces and capabilities of all the armies of the world are greatly exaggerated in relation to Russia, you know, somehow you believe unconditionally.

        However, the eccentric Jews, our modesty, endurance and cultural upbringing, by their stupidity they take for weakness.
        Where will you break when the states stop supporting you from their weakness? That's right, to Russia for salvation, as to the progenitor. And here we will already think about whether it is worthwhile to show humanism again, because sometimes it comes around unpleasantly to us. We also learned to think utilitarian thanks to "partners and friends".
        1. +4
          20 August 2015 12: 51
          Quote: SibSlavRus
          Where will you break when the states cease to support you because of your weakness? That's right, to Russia for salvation, as to the ancestor.

          Dear fellow countryman, I’ve been watching all the local Jews for the second year now, and here’s what I want to say. Almost all of them claim such a statement so that even if their country is destroyed, Russia will be in the third hundred countries where they will move. Although, here Yevgeny Pupyrchaty settled in Moscow, and not his native Leninburg. Many of them have a Russian passport in their hands. In general, people are visionary, they always think about a backup airport.
          1. +1
            20 August 2015 16: 35
            Dear fellow countryman!
            There is even nothing to be surprised at - this is the normal mode of existence of "God's chosen". Foresight and supposedly "intelligence" - this is from the amazing ability to survive and social mimicry in a different confessional and socio-cultural environment.
            For the sake of survival and profit, they are ready for betrayal (which is still demonstratively demonstrated). Because they cannot exist independently (without external support).
            They understand this, but their conscience does not torment them, due to the peculiarities of their worldview.
            Parasitism and vassality: another form of existence is impossible.
            Well, a very unpleasant nation in a historical context.
            Be that as it may, they continue to hate them everywhere (even in "civilized" Europe and the United States, they are objects of attack). And what will happen in case of socio-political cataclysms? Right! They will beat "not according to the passport".
            But here, all the same (again thanks to I.V. Stalin), for the first time in world history, autonomy was created within the state of the USSR for Jewry (the subject of the Russian Federation is the EAO).
            This will really be the "promised land" for them in the event of "force majeure".
            The "chosen of God" are cunning that they will not pour into Russia, somewhere they are still welcome, one might think.
            1. +1
              20 August 2015 21: 20
              Quote: SibSlavRus
              There is even nothing to be surprised at - this is the normal mode of existence of "God's chosen". Foresight and supposedly "intelligence" - this is from the amazing ability to survive and social mimicry in a different confessional and socio-cultural environment.

              I am starting to practice the epithet self-proclaimed.
              Quote: SibSlavRus
              For the sake of survival and profit, they are ready for betrayal (which is still demonstratively demonstrated). Because they cannot exist independently (without external support).
              They understand this, but their conscience does not torment them, due to the peculiarities of their worldview.
              Parasitism and vassality: another form of existence is impossible.
              Well, a very unpleasant nation in a historical context.
              Be that as it may, they continue to hate them everywhere (even in "civilized" Europe and the United States, they are objects of attack). And what will happen in case of socio-political cataclysms? Right! They will beat "not according to the passport".

              Not all of them are like that. There are "gussies" among them, but there are quite a few "Russians" too.
              Quote: SibSlavRus
              But here, all the same (again thanks to I.V. Stalin), for the first time in world history, autonomy was created within the state of the USSR for Jewry (the subject of the Russian Federation is the EAO).
              This will really be the "promised land" for them in the event of "force majeure".
              The "chosen of God" are cunning that they will not pour into Russia, somewhere they are still welcome, one might think that the "chosen of God" are cunning that they will not pour into Russia, somewhere they are still welcome, one might think.

              Why, they’ll want to get into a cold, and the new subject of the Russian State may very much like them. They are better than all sorts of gasters. But still, they partially retained the Russian mentality.
              1. +2
                21 August 2015 08: 01
                Quote: Krasmash
                They are better than all sorts of gaster. And yet, notice that they partially retained the Russian mentality.

                That's it - to the point! good
                1. 0
                  21 August 2015 08: 28
                  Quote: andj61
                  Quote: Krasmash
                  They are better than all sorts of gaster. And yet, notice that they partially retained the Russian mentality.

                  That's it - to the point! good

                  Most of our people will not agree with this. Dislike of Jews will override the dominance of "highly skilled workers - specialists"
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    6. +8
      20 August 2015 09: 24
      Not pah, but us against you, a citizen of an Israeli expert. And what is the Israeli army capable of in an open confrontation, well, not with Hezbal, but with someone more serious? And for how long active fighting it will be enough.

      P.S. Gentlemen EXPERT of all stripes, as well as Gentlemen British scientists, if the Russian Army really wanted to capture Ukraine, then believe it would have taken no more than 2 days.
      1. +8
        20 August 2015 09: 38
        Quote: Kent0001
        And what is the Israeli army capable of in an open confrontation, well, not with Hezbal, but with someone more serious? And for how long active fighting it will be enough.

        But this is not necessary. The Israeli army has perfectly demonstrated what it is capable of in the "Six Day War", and with the enemy many times outnumbered. The entire world military experience throughout history says that the enemy should not be underestimated. If they want to step on a rake (German, French, Turkish, English, etc.) YES FOR GOD'S Sake. We have enough land for everyone.
        1. +2
          20 August 2015 10: 46
          Quote: shuhartred
          We have enough earthlings for everyone.

          yes, 2,5 m3 for each ...
          1. -1
            20 August 2015 13: 25
            Quote: shalim
            yes, 2,5 m3 for each ...

            Will not be too much? Not far from the house is a Nazi Hungarian burial place. A large piece of land was removed from the territory of vegetable gardens and potato plantings. It is no accident that the Nazis burned the corpses of those killed in concentration camps. Territory saved!
            1. 0
              20 August 2015 13: 46
              Quote: Hedgehog
              Quote: shalim
              yes, 2,5 m3 for each ...

              Will not be too much? Not far from the house is a Nazi Hungarian burial place. A large piece of land was removed from the territory of vegetable gardens and potato plantings. It is no accident that the Nazis burned the corpses of those killed in concentration camps. Territory saved!


              To demolish and to plow, in figs we have the memory of this bastard.
              1. 0
                20 August 2015 19: 29
                Quote: Hiking
                To demolish and to plow, in figs we have the memory of this bastard.

                Magyars come from time to time. Something, yes update. Watch him. Yes, and there the POWs are buried, rebuilding the city after the occupation.
            2. 0
              20 August 2015 17: 18
              Hehehe, we all slowly sighed smile
              1. 0
                20 August 2015 19: 19
                Quote: Egor65G
                Hehehe, we all slowly sighed

                Is this a statement about your brothers? For information, not only Jews were burned, read a story written not only by Jewish authors. Look at things wider. Cremation of corpses is the most hygienic way; soil is not poisoned by cadaveric poison. Is there anything to argue with?
                1. 0
                  20 August 2015 20: 52
                  To object? Here and so verbiage is enough.
                  1. +1
                    20 August 2015 21: 31
                    Quote: Egor65G
                    Here and so verbiage is enough.

                    Needless to say. Your brethren are very capable of this. From ordinary cremation, however, without the rituals laid down by religion, they made a bogeyman.
                    But to object, in general, and nothing.
                    1. -2
                      20 August 2015 21: 36
                      Arrows translate is you master laughing
                      1. +1
                        21 August 2015 09: 42
                        Quote: Egor65G
                        Arrows translate

                        Is this a translation of arrows? This is just a statement of fact!
                        Just for the sake of sports interest, count how many tens of square kilometers are needed for the usual burial of all those who died in concentration camps, including Jews. You see, I don’t single out only Jews or someone else, as you Zionists do.
                      2. -1
                        21 August 2015 11: 32
                        Quote: Hedgehog
                        Hehehe, we all slowly sighed

                        Quote: Hedgehog
                        Is this a statement about your brothers?

                        Rest sick laughing Verbiage is exactly what you do in this thread.
                      3. 0
                        21 August 2015 18: 59
                        Quote: Egor65G
                        Verbiage is

                        ... when they impudently ascribe their words to the interlocutor!
                        Quote: Egor65G
                        Quote: Hedgehog
                        Hehehe, we all slowly sighed

                        Continue to live in your dispensary for patients on the top of their head. Could it be that the proximity, in the past, of Semipalatinsk, influenced you so much?
                      4. +1
                        21 August 2015 19: 05
                        Nda ... As usual, you read something, but you didn’t understand the meaning of what you read. laughing Or turned on the arrow laughing
                        And what about the dispensary? Do you consider yourself the smartest? However, you can not answer, tired.
                      5. -1
                        21 August 2015 20: 49
                        Quote: Egor65G
                        However, you can not answer, tired.

                        Please express all forms of hostility towards me in a suicidal form.
      2. 0
        20 August 2015 13: 20
        Quote: Kent0001
        Not pah, but us army on you, citizen Israeli expert

        And here the twisted but eternal question begs. And who are the experts?
    7. +6
      20 August 2015 09: 44
      yes ... and then such "predictors" are hung on a birch tree for their "predictions"!
      I remember Canaris - the chief of the Abwehr - also "predicted" about "rusty tanks" and "a colossus with feet of clay";) he can be said to be lucky - he did not live to see the collapse of the Reich - his own were slapped for incorrect "predictions" ...
      1. 0
        20 August 2015 12: 40
        Canaris informed Hitler what England and the USA needed. Germany was set against the USSR. He was a spy, an agent of influence.
    8. +1
      20 August 2015 09: 54
      Quote: Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
      Ugh on you, Mr. Israeli "expert".

      good Indeed, this expert seems to wish us all this laughing
      1. +1
        20 August 2015 10: 17
        Doesn't want to, rather provokes "friends".
    9. +4
      20 August 2015 09: 57
      And this "ehspert" knows that Israel exists on earth only thanks to the United States. Without the United States, they will be smeared on the sand and will not drain!
    10. 0
      20 August 2015 10: 34
      Why is the article incomplete? This ehsperd did not even deign to open Wikipedia and see how many t-90 we have in service (in the original satya he called the wrong number)
    11. +3
      20 August 2015 10: 42
      This article can be answered with the saying of Napoleon:

      When the enemy commits an erroneous maneuver, in no case do not bother him.
      1. +1
        20 August 2015 18: 31
        You forgot to end the quote: "Because it's impolite!"
        Napoleon was fine with a sense of humor ...
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    12. 0
      20 August 2015 11: 35
      Well, if there are such experts in Israel, then it’s worth considering where they are being trained and trained, some fear for the fate of Israel immediately arises.
    13. +2
      20 August 2015 20: 45
      Quote: Salavat EMERCOM
      Ugh on you, Mr. Israeli "expert".

      Most likely your spit will go nowhere. The unnamed author of the article quotes the words of an unnamed "expert". I join you with two ugh - and both! hi
    14. 0
      20 August 2015 22: 15
      Here the Jews on the forum in a crowd the same thing is constantly barking at everyone), sort of hahly in a cube)
  2. +21
    20 August 2015 09: 03
    Any nonsense on the network is full, why should it be distributed?
  3. +24
    20 August 2015 09: 04
    It turns out that Vladimir Putin "is trying to intimidate the world with a rusting army," - this is how the Israeli "analyst" writes in his material.
    Somewhere I already heard it, then someone else was tired of a tie ...
    1. Fin
      +10
      20 August 2015 09: 10
      Quote: svetoruss
      Somewhere I already heard it, then someone else was tired of a tie ...

      Karl No. 12, Napoleon No. 1 and Hitler also thought so .....
      1. +1
        20 August 2015 11: 37
        rusty equipment with "tan" is not afraid of dirt and any filth!
    2. 0
      22 August 2015 13: 37
      Quote: svetoruss
      It turns out that Vladimir Putin "is trying to intimidate the world with a rusting army," - this is how the Israeli "analyst" writes in his material.
      Somewhere I already heard it, then someone else was tired of a tie ...

      And someone shot himself, and another on the island died and a group of comrades went to feed the fish. To .uya they were.
  4. +22
    20 August 2015 09: 04
    Well ... Wellcome to us .... get in line ... we will beat accurately, but hard. rusty machine guns
    1. +6
      20 August 2015 09: 23
      They generally heard about our engineering troops (stubbat) ???
      What kind of machines ??? ...
      Only rusty shovels !!!
    2. +7
      20 August 2015 09: 24
      We will be. For our equipment and rust shoots and rides ... But even the stainless steel in the army is becoming more and more that pleases.
      1. +1
        20 August 2015 11: 46
        Nothing demoralizes the enemy like rusty Soviet technology
  5. +9
    20 August 2015 09: 05
    In general, mako.co.il issued material that, apparently, is a kind of appeal to the world community: “why are you afraid of Russia? ..” .. this is also a kind of call to action against Russia: “if army "rusts", then it's time to move on to active attacking moves against Russia. "

    And you yourself check, dear Israelis. Weak? So will you hide behind the Americans? And then, it seems, you can only win the Arabs ..
    1. +4
      20 August 2015 09: 10
      Here are the Jews, how the races will not climb, I don’t care ... the guy is on the trend, then it’s okay to cut the ooooogggoooo ... and best of all for the army ... that's about they invented a horror story for themselves that would fool people with their expenses to the army ... why isn’t it clear - stupidly an order from the military-industrial complex ...
      all babosikov well))))
  6. +8
    20 August 2015 09: 05
    And these are there too. And the source is the same as that of the State Department "according to Ukropiya" wassat
  7. +4
    20 August 2015 09: 09
    "Putin sends his soldiers to fight in different parts of the world"

    And this "expert" does not confuse anything? he shouldn't have doubts about the strength of the RF Armed Forces, oh, how should he be
    1. +1
      20 August 2015 09: 58
      He mixed up FSE !!! Putin didn’t send to Georgia, like, but Medved ...
      1. +3
        20 August 2015 10: 26
        Quote: Executer
        He mixed up FSE !!! Putin didn’t send to Georgia, like, but Medved ...


        Yeah, and then Medved said to Putin - "Don't bother, I'll take care of everything myself, now it's my turn to preside." laughing
  8. +10
    20 August 2015 09: 10
    Putin sends his soldiers to fight in different parts of the world, such as in Georgia or Ukraine


    And ... where else in the world does he send his soldiers to fight? Actually, these are our lands, just temporarily we have capitalized. Maybe we can count in how many parts of the world the "light elves" are fighting?
  9. +12
    20 August 2015 09: 10
    Israeli expert ...?!
    Yes ... these guys are from the "persecuted" tribe, masters of setting one against the other.
    It reminds one of a tricky and naive story:
    I wanted to drink the cunning honey, she calls the naive.
    h.- Do you want honey?
    n. - Of course I want !!!
    h. - Take a stick, knock it on the hive, the bees will be scared and fly away, here we are and we will eat the honey ...
    The final is understandable, while the bees chased the naive in the vicinity, the cunning ran into honey, and even took it with him.
  10. +4
    20 August 2015 09: 11
    It seems to me that the "expert" is our "Cossack" sent.
    Specially lulling Americans that they would not waste money on the Pentagon.

    Whose mill are you pouring water on, comrade !?
  11. +7
    20 August 2015 09: 12
    As soon as Russia acts in a non-Israeli way with Iran and Syria, "private" persons immediately begin to pour der..mo in the media.
    Conclusion - we’re on the right track, since different types of people in this country have got into a mess.
  12. +21
    20 August 2015 09: 13
    I read this nonsense. I wonder, whose order was this expert fulfilling? aviation .. Whinnied in full ... Our old men 27th and 35th quietly "beat" in imitation battles just adopted 35th American ... And with the MiG-31 interceptor, no foreigner can compare
    Tanks ..? 2 is really inferior to Abrams and Leopard the second. but .. We have better anti-tank systems. And already 90 is calmly opposing the Americans and Germans.
    about the death of servicemen ... And where do not die? If there is an army, there are weapons and there are combat missions, there will be casualties .. Not desirable, but it is a fact.
    In short, complete nonsense and there is no need to pay attention. Honestly, I wanted to write about this turbidity, now I got sick ...
    1. +2
      20 August 2015 10: 29
      Quote: domokl
      35th Americans just adopted


      but what did 35 still flew ... and there are weapons for it? and then it will be a shame if they beat the unarmed ... again they will scold ..
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  13. +2
    20 August 2015 09: 14
    Did Mr. Expert check? The mongrels bark from the gateway. Apparently the team was given a face.
  14. +2
    20 August 2015 09: 15
    The only way to check the real state of the Russian army is the 2nd liberation campaign in Ukraine.
    And not tank biathlon and parades.
    What is the state of the army?
    The defeat of the officer training system from Yeltsin to Taburetkin, the long-term lowering of officers to below the baseboard, the long-term lack of real combat training, combat training, the destruction of the existing system of types and arms, military districts, the long-term destruction of the military-industrial complex and the demographic pit and the state of youth’s health — all slander and sabotage, which has not been listed since 1985.
    The Russian Federation is not the USSR and eliminating the effects of wrecking in a short time is impossible.
    The main thing is not to deceive yourself and to know the REAL state of the army.
    For this, we need a liberation campaign!
    1. +9
      20 August 2015 09: 22
      Put a plus for assessing the situation.
      I do not agree with the conclusions from it. Okay, Little Russia. And who else to release there ?! Jumping goblins who hate Russia and most of all want to be occupied by at least someone and continue to feed them further?
      No, do it yourself. Choking on bloody crap.
      1. 0
        20 August 2015 09: 42
        Okay, Little Russia. And who else to release there ?!
        But is this not enough?
    2. +1
      20 August 2015 09: 41
      Quote: RoTTor
      The main thing is not to deceive yourself and to know the REAL state of the army.

      the real state of the army will not be made public by any government in any country.

      Quote: RoTTor
      The only way to check the real state of the Russian army is the 2nd liberation campaign in Ukraine.


      Was the first one in 1920? Tukhachevsky, I remember, was checked.
      1. 0
        20 August 2015 18: 36
        Tukhachevsky, I remember, was smashed near Warsaw. Must be able on time stay!
        1. 0
          20 August 2015 22: 07
          Quote: Weyland
          Tukhachevsky, I remember, was smashed near Warsaw.

          yes, but on 07.05.1920/XNUMX/XNUMX the Poles were in Kiev
          Quote: Weyland
          We must be able to stop in time!

          Well yes. They would agree to Curzon’s line and not break their fingers - there wouldn’t be the defeat of Tukhachevsky in August and the humiliating Riga world. All the same, after 19 years, they absolutely returned to the same Curzon borders. But that was another story. The Council of People's Commissars of 1920 should have been shot ...
    3. +3
      20 August 2015 09: 47
      What is the problem? The army of the DPR and LPR is waiting for you. Aren't you crazy, uncle, with your "liberation" campaign?
      1. 0
        20 August 2015 10: 24
        Quote: Flinky
        Aren't you crazy, uncle, with your "liberation" campaign?

        definitely. But this cretinism with the "liberation march on Ukraine" is something that someone has added ...
  15. +7
    20 August 2015 09: 16
    This expert should take a closer look at the Israeli army. It is not known what it would be if it were not for the United States. But the US army is turning into "rusty". The word in quotes is because it seems that the technology is new, but the soldiers have forgotten how to fight. The only thing they can do is hammer the enemy from a safe distance. Over the past 50 years none won the war.
    1. -2
      20 August 2015 09: 49
      Quote: Wedmak
      Only they can that fuck the enemy from a safe distance.

      so what? The correct format))) The third millennium in the yard. New realities: a botanist suffering from excess weight and acne, sitting somewhere in Ramstein, wet the Mujahideen with drone on pickup trucks with bazookas, while sucking a lollipop. The romance of military service.
      1. +1
        20 August 2015 10: 04
        New realities:

        You greatly simplify the situation.
        1. -1
          20 August 2015 10: 27
          Quote: Wedmak
          New realities:

          You greatly simplify the situation.

          I agree - naughty)
    2. +2
      20 August 2015 11: 25
      Over the past 50 years, not a single war has been won. ,,
      well, there’s no need to exaggerate: GRANADA AND PANAMA they, valiantly, won.
    3. +1
      20 August 2015 12: 03
      Israeli "expert": "The strength of the Russian army is too exaggerated"

      Quote: Wedmak
      This expert should take a closer look at the Israeli army.

      In fact, all this is just the talk of experts: at first they frighten themselves with a very aggressive and strong Russia, and then, realizing that they have scared too much and are all trembling with fear, they begin to insist that Russia is not so scary and it’s not as scary to fear it necessary. wassat
      You do not need to pay any attention to those and other cries, but simply strengthen and strengthen your defenses. The dog barks - the caravan is coming! Yes
  16. +4
    20 August 2015 09: 16
    Professor, where are you? Confirm the information?
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  18. +8
    20 August 2015 09: 18
    "Sofa expert" All information seems to be received from social networks. Sometimes I read Israeli news in Russian - they write such nonsense, Mom don't cry. Perverting the facts. My father-in-law's brother lives there, he came to visit, so he believes that we are still at war with Ukraine. His wife is from Western Ukraine, the last Banderovka, he quarreled with her. No education, she worked in a convenience store as a saleswoman in Ukraine, tried to build a father-in-law in a dispute about open-hearth production. A father-in-law with a higher education worked at the camp as a senior foreman for more than 30 years and then spat, did not argue. What to take with them Svidomo? They only know how to trade and ask. Now she lives in Israel, happy that she dumped from Ukraine and barks at Russia.
    1. 0
      21 August 2015 07: 42
      It remains only to understand how Bandera’s straighten Jewish documents for themselves. Channel do not voice?
      1. +1
        21 August 2015 20: 56
        In Ukraine, due to corruption, you can quickly become a purebred Jew, most importantly pay!
  19. +5
    20 August 2015 09: 20
    This conclusion was apparently made in the special department of analysts, where only autists are hired. I seriously, autists serve in the IDF - it turns out they very well notice all sorts of little things, say when analyzing images from space.
    1. 0
      20 August 2015 10: 18
      Quote: Engineer
      I seriously, autists serve in the IDF - it turns out they very well notice all sorts of little things, say when analyzing images from space.

      -------------------------
      A trifle, like "hazing", he noticed from the old filing of "Ogonyok" for 1988-1991 or from "Novaya Gazeta" for 1996-2004 ... Because we have only been serving on conscription for a year, and in six months they can offer a contract ...
  20. +6
    20 August 2015 09: 20
    Are Israeli pilots so scared of the 31st moment in Syria? They, too, are rusty.
  21. +4
    20 August 2015 09: 20
    Comment on this stupidity?
  22. +3
    20 August 2015 09: 22
    what else can you hear from enemies ??? so did Karl Swedish and Napoleon French and Adolf German. sorry do not finish to the end of their enemies.
  23. +6
    20 August 2015 09: 23
    "The strength of the Russian army is too exaggerated"

    .... and the state of the Russian spirit is greatly underestimated.
  24. +4
    20 August 2015 09: 24
    Quote: Penetrator
    And then, it seems, you can only win the Arabs ..

    Yes, something is somehow not defeated by the Arabs of Israel ...
    How many years have not been defeated ...
    1. -1
      20 August 2015 09: 36
      And how do they win? If half of the army of the elect are called MOCROCHELS, who fear the Arabs like fire! Yes, Leo and Moishe with beytsilami special courage never differed!
      1. 0
        20 August 2015 18: 41
        Quote: Vladimir Pozlnyakov
        Yes, Leo and Moishe with beytsilami special courage never differed!


        No, they didn’t pile up the Arabs more than once or twice - while they fought with armies. But "to fight with partisans - it's like eating soup with a knife: it's ineffective and looks disgusting! "(the author of the quote is Lawrence of Arabia, and he was a" real, fighting bugger! ")
  25. +1
    20 August 2015 09: 25
    Quote: Fin
    Quote: svetoruss
    Somewhere I already heard it, then someone else was tired of a tie ...

    Karl No. 12, Napoleon No. 1 and Hitler also thought so .....

    And Hitler number 0, I think. It’s physically multiplied by zero, unlike the first two characters smile
  26. +4
    20 August 2015 09: 25
    A behavior expert is one of the children of immigrants from the USSR. Or Terribly offended descendant in the flesh. There are plenty of such experts in Western publications and other media. As a memento I can name: Masha Gessen and Elijah Ioffe, these two are the most odious, I don't remember anymore, don't hit them. They just understand the language, and the mentality is Western, as well as a bunch of complexes of resentment, rejection and arrogance towards the "country left with such difficulty" (usually they were taken out as children). And when they write some kind of analysis about Russia, it turns out an extravaganza of Russophobia and a classic of symptoms of neglected cholecystitis. Even when they don't want to hurt and shit (this sometimes happens).
    1. +2
      20 August 2015 09: 43
      They love to be experts, critics! Take "OUR" musical, - cinema, - literary, - theater critics, observers and political scientists - are completely GOD'S CHOSEN (just not to work)! For 22 years in Kolyma, Magadan, Yakutia and Chukotka, I met THEM no more than TEN!
  27. +2
    20 August 2015 09: 26
    In my opinion, it's better to ignore it.
  28. +8
    20 August 2015 09: 27
    Another delirium! I was in Israel, lived with a family. The son of the head of the family served in the Israeli army in the 2000s and took part in another conflict. Naturally, I talked to him. General squeeze: "When we went on a mission and the group was commanded by an officer trained in the Soviet (or Russian) Army, we did not worry at all. We were sure that we would all come back!" Therefore, ordinary people know perfectly well what RA is, what level of training and what it is capable of, even if some representatives cause awe !!!
    1. +4
      20 August 2015 10: 39
      In fact, the military rank received in any foreign
      army is not automatically protected in the Israeli.
      Like foreign combat experience. You must first go through the standard
      a soldier’s course for a young soldier (at least 100 days), then successfully pass several courses sequentially, starting with sergeant (even if you were a senior officer). Then you start ml. Lieutenant, maximum deputy. com. companies. If successful -
      then everything goes smoothly. Normal career. You can even become a general.
      1. +1
        20 August 2015 12: 46
        so I do not argue. I’m talking about the fact that my acquaintances were commanded by a person who had passed the SA school.
      2. +2
        20 August 2015 13: 02
        Yeah ... Each sandpiper praises its swamp (like - We are the coolest of all, the rest guano). Pass successfully (at least 30 days) the course of a young soldier (KMB) in the Russian Army, then blather.
      3. 0
        21 August 2015 07: 51
        Quote: voyaka uh
        In fact, the military rank received in any foreign
        army is not automatically protected in the Israeli.


        There are guys who got into officers from a citizen - there is such an option in the Israeli army. So they often did their military service in the CA / RA.
    2. 0
      20 August 2015 16: 25
      Nonsense and 3.14.
      There are no and cannot be any former Soviet officers in the Israeli army.
      You can start from scratch and earn some money, but it is unlikely that anyone has qualified for such a thing - a painfully laborious process.
      1. +2
        21 August 2015 07: 55
        Quote: sidorshuk
        There are no and cannot be any former Soviet officers in the Israeli army.

        There are guys who have completed military service in the RA, there are former "jackets" - students of the military department. I also met former Suvorovites wearing Israeli officer shoulder straps.
  29. +10
    20 August 2015 09: 27
    Purely Jewish little thing, did not take into account
    Russian character and the fact that we are nobody
    we don’t scare, but always win, even
    "rusty" weapon, bark on,
    the "expert" is fake.
  30. +3
    20 August 2015 09: 28
    There is a good proverb. The dog barks - the caravan goes on. Let the ill-wishers bark, and we will continue to raise our army. Of course, I would like to mock such an expert, but let's be smarter than him.
  31. +8
    20 August 2015 09: 29
    Thanks to a fellow expert, I once again proved that there are enough fools among Jews. Article plus. Definitely good
    1. +4
      20 August 2015 10: 18
      Well, sho, did you find a fool of a Jew and were delighted? Yes, there are actually enough of them, but this opus should have been read in the original. And the following is written there that despite the warnings from the English press that Putin wants war:

      -Experts-warn-Russia-actively-preparing-conflict-NATO-announcing-plans-4-000-mil

      itary-exercises-year.html> There are several reasons why you shouldn't take statements about the Russians unleashing a war seriously.
      1. -1
        20 August 2015 10: 36
        Quote: tilix
        found a fool Jew and rejoiced

        Just like joy full pants
        Quote: tilix
        but this opus should be read in the original

        First you need to learn the Christ-compassionate language lol laughing smile
        Quote: tilix
        There are several reasons why you should not take seriously statements about the outbreak of war by the Russians.

        But this note, in itself, is already the nonsense of a drunken drug addict. The Russians in general never attacked anyone and did not start wars.
        1. +1
          20 August 2015 10: 41
          First you need to learn the Christ-compassionate language
          many succeeded wink > his and his native language by the way.
          The Russians generally never attacked anyone and didn’t start wars.
          There is always a first time. Will he be right now?
          1. +7
            20 August 2015 10: 52
            Quote: tilix
            Will he be right now?

            Are there any prerequisites?
            Quote: tilix
            many managed to <wink> his own language and by the way.

            Sorry for the immodest question. Have you lived in Israel for a long time?
            And did you study Hebrew before repatriation?
            1. +1
              20 August 2015 11: 02
              Are there any prerequisites?
              According to the London edition, yes, according to the Israeli "Expert" no, this is just a warning.
              Sorry for the immodest question. Have you lived in Israel for a long time?
              And did you study Hebrew before repatriation?

              Yes. Formerly mammoths. smile >
              No, then (in those days epic) they studied Hebrew underground.
              1. +4
                20 August 2015 11: 13
                Quote: tilix
                According to the London edition, yes, according to the Israeli "Expert" no, this is just a warning.

                Alarmists, what else to take from them + Just to slander Russia. One interesting observation: Western litter, conducting its subversive activities inside our country, also howl, that the damned Russia attacked Ukraine, freedom-loving, democratic and upholding European values.
                Quote: tilix
                Yes.
                No.

                I also know a little bit. For example, shalom, gimmick, shiksa, poets, well, and there are a couple of words.
                1. +5
                  20 August 2015 11: 21
                  Not Alarmists, According to the "Expert"
                  הפחדות זה סוד הקסם למכירות והגדלת תקציב
                  (Frightening is the secret of sales and increasing the budget). Well, the thing today is familiar to everyone.
                  I also know a little
                  Congratulations, definitely enough to get from Tel Aviv to Eilat.
                  1. +3
                    20 August 2015 11: 38
                    Quote: tilix
                    According to "Expert"

                    These are ignoramuses. The main Jewish analyst is Yasha Kazakov-Kedmi, and the rest is like that, pampering.
                    1. +1
                      20 August 2015 11: 43
                      The main Jewish analyst is Yasha Kazakov-Kedmi
                      In Russian and for the Russian audience, perhaps. And what does he think on the topic: Does Russia start a war or not?
                      1. +1
                        20 August 2015 11: 56
                        Quote: tilix
                        And what does he think on the topic: Does Russia start a war or not?

                        He says more and more that the Americans are submissive to the whole planet.
                      2. +2
                        20 August 2015 12: 05
                        Quote: tilix
                        The main Jewish analyst is Yasha Kazakov-Kedmi in Russian and perhaps for the Russian audience. And what does he think on the topic: Does Russia start a war or not?


                        Let me cut in. I regularly watch "Special Folder" with him on ItonTV. In my opinion, he is an intelligent expert in the field of international relations and geopolitics, although the well-known Professor has a radically opposite opinion, but that is so))) I have not heard from him the theses about Russia unleashing anything, only about a response to events.
                  2. 0
                    20 August 2015 11: 46
                    ..... Congratulations, definitely enough to get from Tel Aviv to Eilat ....

                    ..... Sorry for the question .... They said that at the Ben Gurion airport there is either a stele, or a monument on which something like "remember that everyone here is Jews ..." .... Is that true ???? .... And what's the point of this message ..... hi
                    1. +1
                      20 August 2015 11: 50
                      They said that at the Ben Gurion airport
                      I have not seen this either in the 1 terminal or in the 3.
                      Do you know the saying that if you ask for prices you do not need to go to this store?
                      Anyone who needs such a reminder does not need to come. wink >
                      1. +2
                        20 August 2015 12: 00
                        ..... I have not observed this either in terminal 1 or in 3. ....

                        .... One ex-immigrant told me this at the end of the 90s ... For what I bought, for what I am selling .... In principle, I thought that the meaning of this reminder is that everyone who comes should remember that all who came to permanent residence are the same in rights and duties with respect to the country ..... Thank you for answering .... It is a pity that it turned out to be fake .... hi
                      2. +1
                        20 August 2015 12: 22
                        In Israel, only 75% Jews. So for any fake. hi
                      3. 0
                        20 August 2015 19: 26
                        Quote: tilix
                        In Israel, only 75% Jews. So for any fake. hi

                        Allow me to correct. In Israel, there are 58 percent of Jews, the remaining 17 are "Russians". Here is such a funny arithmetic. hi
                    2. 0
                      20 August 2015 12: 34
                      Quote: aleks 62
                      .. It was said that at Ben Gurion airport there is either a stele, or a monument on which something like "remember that everyone here is Jews ..." .... Is that true ????

                      Bullshit. You have been deceived.
                2. +2
                  20 August 2015 11: 27
                  Quote: Krasmash
                  I also know a little bit. For example, shalom, gimmick, shiksa, poets, well, and there are a couple of words.


                  Of which, apart from "shalom", none are in Hebrew (Yiddish). wink
                  1. -1
                    20 August 2015 11: 31
                    Quote: Neksel
                    Quote: Krasmash
                    I also know a little bit. For example, shalom, gimmick, shiksa, poets, well, and there are a couple of words.


                    Of which, apart from "shalom", none are in Hebrew (Yiddish). wink

                    Anyway, Jewish mov. It may come in handy in the gangster region of the Mother of Russian cities.
                    1. 0
                      20 August 2015 11: 43
                      Quote: Krasmash
                      Anyway, Jewish mov. It may come in handy in the gangster region of the Mother of Russian cities.

                      And this is where, excuse me?
                      1. +1
                        20 August 2015 11: 45
                        Mother of Russian cities - Kiev
                        Krasmash, in a combat mission !!!
                        Never Stirlitz ... (hereinafter)
                      2. -2
                        20 August 2015 12: 05
                        Quote: tilix
                        Mother of Russian cities - Kiev

                        I doubt that there is such a
                        gangster district Mother of Russian cities.

                      3. 0
                        20 August 2015 13: 16
                        Quote: Neksel
                        I doubt that there is such a

                        There are such everywhere.
                      4. 0
                        20 August 2015 12: 22
                        Quote: tilix
                        Mother of Russian cities - Kiev
                        Krasmash, in a combat mission !!!
                        Never Stirlitz ... (hereinafter)

                        E-mine, burned down. You can’t hide anything from these Jewssmile
                      5. 0
                        20 August 2015 11: 50
                        Quote: Neksel
                        Quote: Krasmash
                        Anyway, Jewish mov. It may come in handy in the gangster region of the Mother of Russian cities.

                        And this is where, excuse me?

                        And this is where you were born. Yes
                      6. 0
                        20 August 2015 12: 05
                        Quote: Krasmash
                        And this is where you were born.

                        Do you file dossiers on all users? Is it really boring?
                      7. 0
                        20 August 2015 12: 08
                        Quote: Neksel
                        Quote: Krasmash
                        And this is where you were born.

                        Do you file dossiers on all users? Is it really boring?

                        Oh, one more forgotten. Fuck me all. He limited himself to Jews.
                  2. +2
                    20 August 2015 11: 36
                    Of which, apart from "shalom", none are in Hebrew (Yiddish). wink >
                    shalom, shlimazl (מזל שלם), shiksa (שקץ), poets - this is yes.
                  3. 0
                    20 August 2015 18: 55
                    Quote: Neksel
                    Of which, apart from "shalom", none are in Hebrew


                    Shlimazl is in Yiddish, but the root is still distorted Hebrew ("complete happiness")
                    1. 0
                      20 August 2015 19: 07
                      Quote: Weyland
                      Shlimazl is in Yiddish, but the root is still distorted Hebrew ("complete happiness")


                      Are you based on personal knowledge of Hebrew? and / or yiddish?
                      The root basis still does not change the fact that it is in Yiddish and not Hebrew.
                      And what you brought - as the origin of the word - is only one of the versions (and, it seems to me, a little knowledge of Hebrew, the least suitable).
                      According to another version - from him. schlimm and mazal - bad happiness; more precisely - it. Schlamassel, which later entered Yiddish, is a nuisance.
                      There are many words, for example, in Slavic languages ​​that have the same roots, but this word does not cease to be anyway in different languages.
                      By the way, in those days when the word "shlimazl" appeared in everyday life, almost no one spoke in Hebrew (only prayers and reading the Torah in ancient Hebrew, which is already distantly related to the modern one).

                      still distorted Hebrew ("complete happiness")
                      - in Hebrew it would sound, if translated almost literally - mazal shalem (happiness is complete / whole), but the meaning as in Russian - the word "full / whole" in this phrase does not. It would take a lot and for a long time to distort. wink
                  4. 0
                    20 August 2015 18: 55
                    Quote: Neksel
                    Of which, apart from "shalom", none are in Hebrew


                    Shlimazl is in Yiddish, but the root is still distorted Hebrew ("complete happiness")
                    1. +1
                      20 August 2015 19: 44
                      Quote: Weyland
                      Shlimazl is in Yiddish, but the root is still distorted Hebrew ("complete happiness")

                      Philologists, linguists, and other professionals gathered, and I remembered that. In the past year, of course, as always, I talked with Jews. The Jews were discussing with citizen Sokolov aka professor, until they reached Milena Kunis. Well, I said that her name is associated with cunnilingus. And there was a debate about the origin of the word marten. laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing
                      1. 0
                        20 August 2015 19: 49
                        Quote: Krasmash
                        Philologists, linguists and other professionals gathered

                        Quote: Krasmash
                        Last year

                        Quote: Krasmash
                        laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing
                      2. 0
                        20 August 2015 19: 58
                        Quote: Neksel
                        Quote: Krasmash
                        Philologists, linguists and other professionals gathered

                        wassat wassat wassat laughing
                      3. 0
                        20 August 2015 20: 01
                        Quote: Neksel
                        Neksel

                        Of course it was fun. Such disputes broke out. But right now, everything is somehow more about the accusation of Jews of fascism, yes.
                3. 0
                  20 August 2015 11: 56
                  Respect your opponents. If you have nothing to say, better keep silent.
        2. 0
          20 August 2015 10: 47
          Quote: Krasmash
          The Russians generally never attacked anyone and didn’t start wars.

          correction: such unpleasant precedents followed us. Scroll through the tutorial.
          1. -1
            20 August 2015 10: 54
            Quote: Das Boot
            Quote: Krasmash
            The Russians generally never attacked anyone and didn’t start wars.

            correction: such unpleasant precedents followed us. Scroll through the tutorial.

            If this is such a vulgar allusion to Afghanistan, then before the Soviet troops were deployed there was a war, between the local population. In addition, there would be all such aggressors / invaders / occupiers who would rebuild the victim country and drive the freebie echelons.
            1. 0
              20 August 2015 11: 00
              Quote: Krasmash
              If this is such a vulgar hint

              why "vulgar"? And no hints - I made myself clear:
              Quote: Das Boot
              Scroll through the tutorial.
              1. -1
                20 August 2015 11: 06
                Quote: Das Boot
                Scroll through the tutorial.

                Yes, I know. But all these precedents, as they say in certain circles, and for presenting a serious zapadlo count.
                1. +2
                  20 August 2015 11: 16
                  Quote: Krasmash
                  But all these precedents, as they say in certain circles, and for presenting a serious zapadlo count.

                  well, in these circles history is studied in tattoos, and geography is measured in stages. And facts are a stubborn thing, as you know, regardless of your attitude towards them.
                  1. +2
                    20 August 2015 11: 27
                    Quote: Das Boot
                    in these circles, history is studied by tattoos, and geography is measured in stages

                    You seem to be a very experienced and knowledgeable man.
                    Quote: Das Boot
                    And facts are a stubborn thing, as you know, regardless of your attitude towards them.

                    You can say so. Just remind me when Russia organized genocides of civilians in the territories of enslaved countries. And then in the textbooks, it’s somehow not possible to find such information.
                    1. 0
                      20 August 2015 11: 31
                      Quote: Krasmash
                      Just remind me when Russia organized the genocides of civilians in the territory of enslaved countries.

                      I'm sure you want to be reminded of you? Start with the Chechens in the Caucasus in the past and present centuries, continue with the Circassians who fleeing from genocide ran right up to Israel and Jordan and not further on the list.
                      1. +4
                        20 August 2015 11: 33
                        Quote: professor
                        I'm sure you want to be reminded of you?

                        Did we also holocaust Jews? wink
                      2. -7
                        20 August 2015 11: 37
                        Quote: Krasmash
                        Did we also holocaust Jews?

                        No. They only cut, raped, robbed and expelled from their homes. There is such a Russian word that entered all languages ​​without translation "pogrom".
                        My advice, change the subject. And then I will begin to remember Vlasov and Skuro. Let's talk about the power of the Russian army, according to the article.
                      3. +7
                        20 August 2015 11: 48
                        Quote: professor
                        They just cut, raped, robbed and drove from their homes

                        Here's how. The other day I’ll ask the Krasnoyarsk Metropolitan whether these things took place.
                        Quote: professor
                        And then I will begin to recall Vlasov and Skuro

                        Well, yes, but the counterweight to Trotsky, Berl Lazar and other Chubais.
                        Quote: professor
                        Let's talk about the power of the Russian army, according to the article.

                        Damn, but the FAQ is here to speak. A powerful army. So fucking with all the dope that half the world will not collect bones.
                      4. +6
                        20 August 2015 11: 50
                        I agree we will not raise the topic of the Khazar Kaganate.
                      5. +1
                        20 August 2015 11: 50
                        I agree we will not raise the topic of the Khazar Kaganate.
                      6. +2
                        20 August 2015 19: 15
                        Jews weren’t particularly ceremonial everywhere. Why do you think so?
                        And now those who want to end you are not diminishing.
                      7. +4
                        20 August 2015 12: 31
                        Quote: professor
                        Start with the Chechens in the Caucasus in the past and present centuries, continue with the Circassians who fleeing from genocide ran right up to Israel and Jordan and not further on the list.

                        Did the Circassians run? belay
                        Or maybe, at their own will and by agreement between Russia and Turkey, 90-95% of the Circassians (Circassians, Adygs, Kabardians and other "Circassian" peoples) voluntarily, not wanting to remain under the rule of the infidels, moved to Turkey? And beforehand, in their own kind, they even arranged voting. Those who stayed now also voluntarily decided to stay in their homeland and become subjects of the Russian Empire. And the Turks, knowing the excellent fighting qualities of the Circassians, settled them to "cover" dangerous directions - around Istanbul - and in those places where the proportion of the Turkic population was not predominant - in Serbia, Syria, Palestine, etc. True, in fact, in Turkey, the Circassians oturned, a whole community returned to Adygea from Kosovo five years ago - more than a thousand people, and in Syria and Jordan they are still one of the pillars of the ruling regimes - or not?
                        Chechens, Circassians, etc. they did not suit the genocides, however, the hostages of the children of the leaders were taken and brought up in an appropriate manner - this is still from Yermolov. Most of the nomads suffered - Nogais, for example, who were simply expelled from the territory of the Kuban beyond the Volga at the end of the 18th century. There they encountered Kalmyks, Bashkirs and Kazakhs. And the Nogais almost ended ...
                      8. -1
                        20 August 2015 12: 48
                        Quote: andj61
                        Or maybe, at their own will and by agreement between Russia and Turkey, 90-95% of the Circassians (Circassians, Adygs, Kabardians and other "Circassian" peoples) voluntarily, not wanting to remain under the rule of the infidels, moved to Turkey?

                        "Voluntarily" they left in order to:
                        1) stay alive
                        2) Remain Circassian
                        When you are in Israel, visit the Circassian villages, for example Kfar-Kama. They will tell you how they voluntarily left their historical homeland. You can read W.N.Burzage. "Expulsion of the Circassians: Causes and Consequences", 2012.

                        Quote: andj61
                        Chechens, Circassians, etc. they did not suit the genocides, however, the hostages of the children of the leaders were taken and brought up in an appropriate manner - this is still from Yermolov.

                        They themselves, however, like modern law, think differently.
                      9. +4
                        20 August 2015 15: 05
                        Those who stayed and live in Russia:
                        1. Remained alive.
                        2. Remained Circassians.
                        And as for the hostages - there is such an outdated concept - amanat.

                        Amanat - in a general sense: entrusted to storage, reliability. What Allah has entrusted has entrusted to people. It is understood as given for safekeeping, both intangible assets (language, culture, nationality), and material (things, real estate).
                        Amanat (mouth) is a hostage; historical name of hostages in the North Caucasus during the Caucasian war

                        Only with the use of mountain customs, one of which is the Amanat, was it possible to somehow pacify the Caucasus. You cannot apply modern law to historical realities.
                        Great Britain fought with China for the right to organize drug traffickers in China and the right to freely trade drugs.
                        Does anyone recall this, has anyone condemned the actions of this country? So in this case ...
                      10. +3
                        20 August 2015 18: 51
                        Quote: professor
                        They left "voluntarily" in order to: 1) stay alive 2) stay Circassians


                        And what, those who remained were genocidal or assimilated?
                        Those who did not want to take the oath of allegiance to Russia left. CSH, many of their descendants recently returned to the Russian Federation - from Kosovo.
                      11. -1
                        20 August 2015 19: 34
                        Quote: Weyland
                        And what, those who remained were genocidal or assimilated?

                        In Rwanda, too, not everyone was genocidal, but this did not stop being genocide.
                      12. +1
                        20 August 2015 19: 42
                        Quote: professor
                        Quote: Weyland
                        And what, those who remained were genocidal or assimilated?

                        In Rwanda, too, not everyone was genocidal, but this did not stop being genocide.

                        In Rwanda, it was they who killed - one people is another, and in response this other is right. And in the Caucasus in the 19th century, the Circassians - mind you, it is the non-peaceful Circassians! - cut Russian, and not vice versa. But the Russians didn’t touch the civilians at all, and these peaceful people still live there — the Circassians, Kabardins, Circassians, Abazins, Abkhazians, however, apart from Abkhazians, they stood behind the Russians, just in case, evicted them from the coast.
                        Cruel Age - Cruel Morals!
                      13. 0
                        20 August 2015 19: 47
                        Quote: andj61
                        But the Russians did not touch the peaceful

                        They didn’t touch it so much that the Circassians abandoned their homes and draped over thousands of kilometers to explore the desert.

                        Quote: andj61
                        Cruel Age - Cruel Morals!

                        And the Chechens in the 20th century fell under the distribution ...
                      14. +1
                        20 August 2015 20: 02
                        Quote: professor
                        And the Chechens in the 20th century fell under the distribution ...

                        Chechens under the distribution back in the 19th century, along with the Circassians fell - remember Shamil. And until the 18th century there was a peaceful Christian people, which neighbors regularly offended, but somewhere in the early 18th century converted to Islam - and after 100 years it was impossible to recognize.
                        And in Palestine in the 20th century, the Arabs fell under the distribution, and not peaceful Christians, but those who also once converted to Islam. And also "thanks" to the newcomers (or) returned. So the Russians lived in the Caucasus 1000 years before - the Tmutarakan principality, for example. So we are in approximately the same position. drinks hi
                      15. +1
                        20 August 2015 13: 21
                        Circassians of Israel say-fled.
                      16. +5
                        20 August 2015 15: 17
                        Quote: Egor65G
                        Circassians of Israel say-fled.

                        Of course, they fled. They lived in the mountains and along the coast - from present Anapa to Abkhazia. Abkhazians, by the way, are also kindred to them. Historically, all neighbors were robbed, and those who swam in the sea. Russia, having conquered these lands, counted on reconciliation, but nothing came of it - the Circassians did not change their second nature. Then it was decided to evict them from the coast. But in preparing the next peace treaty with Turkey, the Turks offered to give the Circassians the opportunity to relocate to the Ottoman Empire. Then they held these polls and immediately began to draw in to places on the coast that were determined for export, but they arrived there in the fall, and by agreement with Turkey they were waiting for them next spring, by then they had prepared food. The Circassians themselves had food with them for only a few weeks. It did not work to transport to Turkey, the Turks also expected to send ships in the spring, and the fall-winter in the Black Sea is not the time to sail. Starving Circassians began to get food in the usual way - for them - and faced with the Russian army - the result is clear. With the remaining, the Russian military shared their food, although they themselves had to eat from hand to mouth. Then the Circassians were taken out, as was planned, in the spring and summer of next year.
                        History is a stubborn and factual thing. You can feel sorry for the Circassians, but understand the Russians.
                      17. +3
                        20 August 2015 17: 19
                        Quote: andj61
                        You can feel sorry for the Circassians, but understand the Russians.

                        I agree.
                      18. +4
                        20 August 2015 15: 24
                        I understand that for no reason, the Chechens suddenly decided to gain independence? It’s not funny for yourself? Yes, and in the last century, a respected Georgian, he plundered all southern nations in parts (well, is it really so important, it’s much easier to tell how evil Ivanes arranged genocide) And I’ll start to think too, what started in Ukraine with us.
                        And such an avatar and stoop to a banal communal chatter.
                      19. +2
                        20 August 2015 19: 11
                        For a Jewish professor, I remind you.
                        In addition to the facts, there are causal relationships, incentives.
                        Yes, and the facts can be perverted for the sake of opportunistic interests.
                    2. +1
                      20 August 2015 12: 03
                      Quote: Krasmash
                      Just remind me when Russia organized the genocides of civilians in the territory of enslaved countries

                      do not distort the topic. Let me remind you the beginning of the dialogue:
                      Quote: Krasmash
                      .Russian generally never attacked anyone and did not start wars.
                      1. +3
                        20 August 2015 12: 06
                        Quote: Das Boot
                        do not distort the topic. Let me remind you the beginning of the dialogue:

                        And what kind of juggling is there? There will be a logical continuation of the chain. It seems like after the end of the war, it’s also a good thing to civilize the civilian population.
                  2. 0
                    20 August 2015 19: 09
                    In addition to the facts, there are causal relationships, incentives.
                    Yes, and the facts can be perverted for the sake of opportunistic interests.
            2. +2
              20 August 2015 12: 15
              Quote: Krasmash
              If this is such a vulgar allusion to Afghanistan

              There were others - the Soviet-Finnish war, for example. Or Soviet-Japanese 1945 - but there they fulfilled allied obligations, and the Japanese simply got it for almost a dozen and a half years.
              This is if you do not take heaps of wars in the dark times of tsarism. wink
              In addition, the concepts of "attack first" and "war were not unleashed" are still different: in the war with Japan in 1945 they attacked first, but it seems to me that the war was not unleashed by the USSR, but by Japan.
              1. +1
                20 August 2015 12: 20
                Quote: andj61
                There were others - the Soviet-Finnish war, for example

                Once such a booze started, then Kazan, Astrakhan, and the Turkish Crimea suffered from Russian treachery. fellow drinks bully
                1. +1
                  20 August 2015 15: 19
                  Quote: Krasmash
                  Once such a booze started, then Kazan, Astrakhan, and the Turkish Crimea suffered from Russian treachery.

                  I already wrote:
                  Quote: andj61
                  This is if you do not take heaps of wars in the dark times of tsarism.

                  hi drinks
                  1. 0
                    20 August 2015 15: 51
                    Quote: andj61
                    Quote: Krasmash
                    Once such a booze started, then Kazan, Astrakhan, and the Turkish Crimea suffered from Russian treachery.

                    I already wrote:
                    Quote: andj61
                    This is if you do not take heaps of wars in the dark times of tsarism.

                    hi drinks

                    True. But still, you can’t be such a lover. Let’s remember pendants, British women, pasta, they don’t like to remember their shoals and try to whitewash themselves. We should do the same, although it’s good for us in terms of humanism, humanity and justice in relation to people of a different nationality, including such odious ones as Jews.
                    1. +1
                      20 August 2015 16: 14
                      Quote: Krasmash
                      True. But still, you cannot be so truthful.

                      This is not a matter of love of truth - declaring this you unwittingly "substitute" for the answer of opponents who, at the same time, pull out very ambiguous things, proving that Russia has genocidized someone there. Russia did not touch the peaceful, but pacified the banditry and supporting enemies.
                      And there is nothing to say about the Anglo-Saxons you mentioned: a significant part of even the current welfare of Britain is built on the drug trade - they don’t like to remember the opium wars with China for the right to deliver opium to China and contain drug addiction there - and it was!
                      1. +1
                        20 August 2015 16: 31
                        Quote: andj61
                        This is not a matter of love of truth - declaring this you unwittingly "substitute" for the answer of opponents,

                        Well, intersections and coincidences always have a place to be.
                        Quote: andj61
                        Russia did not touch peaceful, gangster and supporting enemies - pacified.

                        We play nobility. Dear little ones.
                        Quote: andj61
                        And about the Anglo-Saxons you mentioned, there’s nothing to say

                        Well, there’s nothing to say. They deplored everything that they wanted, now they live and don’t grieve. Attention, but Russia kept half the globe, forgives debts, provides assistance, but they spit in us anyway, and its citizens get a bolt sour cream. You are a representative of the older generation, and you probably have a normal attitude towards this. But me, all this talk about some kind of gratuitous gifts is just heating up. When will we start rowing under ourselves, eh?
                      2. +2
                        20 August 2015 16: 45
                        Quote: Krasmash
                        But me, all this talk about some kind of gratuitous gifts is just heating up. When will we start rowing everything for ourselves, huh?

                        Lord, what row there is for you! At least a little to take their interests into account and do not forget about yourself! You are completely right - only we do not play nobility, we have this nobility in a natural way, it turns out by itself - even when individual government officials confuse their own pocket with the state. hi
                      3. +1
                        20 August 2015 17: 27
                        Quote: andj61
                        we have this nobility in a natural way, it naturally turns out

                        A tragic mistake.
                        Russia provided humanitarian assistance to 24 countries over the year

                        According to the results of 2014, EMERCOM of Russia provided humanitarian assistance to 24 countries, including Afghanistan and Syria, it follows from the statistics of the department.

                        “International humanitarian assistance was provided to 24 countries, including Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, China, North Korea, Palestine, Syria and others. The total weight of the humanitarian aid transported exceeded 11 thousand tons, ”RIA Novosti was told in the department by the organization of informing the population of the Russian Emergencies Ministry.

                        Assistance to Donbass is not included in this number: 10 thousand tons of humanitarian aid was delivered there by 13,4 columns of the Ministry of Emergencies of the Russian Federation, that is, more than to all other countries combined.

                        As previously reported by the Russian Emergencies Ministry, in 2013 humanitarian and technical assistance was provided to 25 countries, including the United States, China and Syria. The total amount of food aid provided amounted to 18,7 thousand tons.

                        Especially the last paragraph kills on the move. And when our Far East was flooded ------------------------- SILENCE, it wasn’t repaid by any kind. The information was that the Chinese wanted to help, it seems like money, but our stupidly. winged leadership refused, they say you yourself drank shit, leave it to yourself. fool
              2. +1
                20 August 2015 19: 19
                All the wars that Russia-USSR-Russia waged are either "otvetka", or allied commitments, or (in response to your hint) preventive and preemptive actions
                (an example is Afghanistan: if we hadn’t entered there in 1979, then the Americans would have entered (KGB chairman Yu.V. Andropov reported to the Central Committee that intelligence had been received that the Americans were preparing to send troops to Afghanistan, and by then began to supply the Mujahideen, and later we would get drugs and destabilization of borders and other amenities, and then even though they built the infrastructure and taught the people).
                There are still peacekeeping operations and measures to enforce peace.
                Russia is always right!
                Love your country, not be critical of it.
                You are not a Jew.
                1. +1
                  20 August 2015 19: 47
                  Quote: SibSlavRus
                  Russia is always right!
                  Love your country, not be critical of it.

                  How did Zadornov talk about this? Something like - I love the country, the government can not stand. And I agree with him - at least as far as the economy is concerned. hi
          2. 0
            20 August 2015 19: 06
            The title of the textbook, please. And the compilers.
            All the wars that Russia-USSR-Russia waged are either "otvetka", or allied commitments, or (in response to your hint) preventive and preemptive actions
            (an example is Afghanistan: if we hadn’t entered there in 1979, then the Americans would have entered (KGB chairman Yu.V. Andropov reported to the Central Committee that intelligence had been received that the Americans were preparing to send troops to Afghanistan, and by then began to supply the Mujahideen, and later we would get drugs and destabilization of borders and other amenities, and then even though they built the infrastructure and taught the people).
            There are still peacekeeping operations and measures to enforce peace.
            remember, conditionally respected: Russia is always right!
        3. +3
          20 August 2015 13: 04
          Quote: Krasmash
          The Russians generally never attacked anyone and didn’t start wars.

          Come on, everything happened. recourse
          1. +1
            20 August 2015 13: 11
            Quote: Vladimirets
            Quote: Krasmash
            The Russians generally never attacked anyone and didn’t start wars.

            Come on, everything happened. recourse

            That's for sure. Even recorded as rapists, butchers, robbers and usurpers of the long-suffering Jewish people. Just scum these wild Slavs. crying
        4. 0
          20 August 2015 16: 29
          In Finland, they helped to fight the bourgeois regime simply ....
          And in Afghanistan they helped progressive forces.

          Come on ... just Mother Teresa of some kind.

          "
          The victim fell and began to bang his head on the district’s boots ...
          "
        5. +1
          20 August 2015 18: 47
          Quote: Krasmash
          The Russians generally never attacked anyone and didn’t start wars.


          Yeah. And the territory increased from the 15th to the 18th century by 50 times by itself. What an idiotic myth? Nobody in the world is ashamed of their previous conquests - they we repeat this bullshit!
          1. 0
            20 August 2015 19: 02
            Quote: Weyland
            And the territory increased from the 15th to the 18th century by 50 times in itself

            By miracle, God's gift and prayers, it increased. :-)
            1. +1
              20 August 2015 19: 56
              Quote: Krasmash
              Quote: Weyland
              And the territory increased from the 15th to the 18th century by 50 times in itself

              By miracle, God's gift and prayers, it increased. :-)

              And you analyze, due to which the territory increased. And you will understand that 90% is not the result of actions of the army, but of the so-called pioneers who developed the territory on which there were no states. With the western part - even easier. First, Russian lands came under Poland, then Russia returned these lands. South - the destruction of the predatory Crimean, and earlier Kazan and Astrakhan khanates, which in many respects lived at the expense of Russia. Giving yourself to rob is somehow not to anyone's taste.
              Of the actual conquests, only Finland and Central Asia can be mentioned. And even there their own states remained - with the monetary system, customs, taxes and administration - khans, emirs - in Wed. Asia, parliament in Finland. There was even customs on the border between Russia and Finland, and Finnish laws took precedence over Russian ones. Pretty conquest!
              1. +1
                20 August 2015 20: 07
                Something Vatnik the second day phylonite. Does not bring out vile sionyug to clean water. Most likely resting. recourse
                1. +2
                  20 August 2015 20: 09
                  Quote: Krasmash
                  Something Vatnik the second day phylonite. He does not bring the damned sionyug to clean water. He most likely has a rest. recourse

                  I’m in his emergency, so his presence is broadcast only through other users.
                  1. +2
                    20 August 2015 20: 13
                    Quote: andj61
                    I'm in his emergency

                    In the course, Mr. Nagan is still there, and a good half of the Jewish contingent. This emergency situation must be canceled, otherwise it turns out, as if the men were not here.
            2. +1
              20 August 2015 21: 00
              You do not giggle on this subject, it is better to check out our song laughing
              1. +1
                20 August 2015 21: 34
                Norm song. Girls giggle, and I laugh like a horse, that is, loudly, recklessly and fervently. bully
  32. +13
    20 August 2015 09: 29
    If not for the RUSSIAN army, you (the Jews) would not exist as a species! German experts in 39-41. considered the same thing ... am
    1. -2
      20 August 2015 10: 54
      Quote: Mercenary
      If not for the RUSSIAN army, you (the Jews) would not exist as a species!

      and the surrogate father of the Red Army is considered Leiba Davydych B. Everything, the circle is closed ... laughing
    2. +1
      22 August 2015 10: 35
      What kind of army is this?
      Maybe the Russian liberation army.
  33. +2
    20 August 2015 09: 31
    Cool name for the army syshya: "light elves". I would add "cool" to this.
    1. +3
      20 August 2015 13: 18
      rather "stupid" ... but exceptional, ... and exceptionally bright .... and of course only ELVES
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  34. 0
    20 August 2015 09: 32
    And the faces in the photo are so smart wassat
  35. -10
    20 August 2015 09: 32
    and aircraft really fall almost every week ... Jews, Jews, Jews alone.
  36. -5
    20 August 2015 09: 35
    The expert is partly right. And our sofa generals spat on him. "We say our best 27th 31st beat everyone, etc." People aww !!! Wake up ... The technique is good, no doubt, but they are not fools either. In a real confrontation like in the Bek Valley or the like it will be bad for us.
    1. +8
      20 August 2015 09: 46

      In a real confrontation like in the Bek valley or the like fucking we will.

      And in a real confrontation "as near Moscow" or the like. kamu will be fucking?
      1. -5
        20 August 2015 10: 17
        if near Moscow, then by definition to us. Think what to write. if near Moscow it means the rest of the country is already taken.
        1. +5
          20 August 2015 10: 39
          if near Moscow, then by definition to us. Think what to write. if near Moscow it means the rest of the country is already taken.

          Dear "strategist", I will definitely use your recommendations and "think". But I hasten to note that I wrote "as near Moscow" - in quotation marks, giving the expression some semblance of a proper name, that is, out of reference to the locality. Unfortunately, I can’t do anything about the fact that most of the most significant military operations in modern history Russia conducted on its territory, defending itself against another "civilizer". As for your knowledge of the military operations of the Israel Defense Forces, it certainly does you credit. But projecting the confrontation between Israel and Syria onto a hypothetical confrontation between Israel and Russia (and even somewhere near the devil) is, to put it mildly, wrong, and making any predictions based on this is generally stupid.
          Best regards hi
          1. -2
            20 August 2015 11: 10
            Quote: gudgeon
            Dear "strategist", I will definitely use

            the serious tone of the comment is nullified by the phrase
            Quote: gudgeon
            project the confrontation between Israel and Syria on a hypothetical confrontation between Israel and Russia

            A remarkable imagination must be possessed in order to represent the Russian-Israeli front. Respect ... I do not take the hybrid standoff in the Doomsday War.
            1. 0
              20 August 2015 11: 33
              A remarkable imagination must be possessed in order to represent the Russian-Israeli front. Respect ... I do not take the hybrid standoff in the Doomsday War.

              Totally agree with you.
              In a real confrontation like in the Bek valley or the like fucking we will.

              And how else can this be perceived?
              1. +1
                20 August 2015 12: 13
                Quote: gudgeon
                In a real confrontation like in the Bek valley or the like fucking we will.
                And how else can this be perceived?


                as a script for WoT
            2. -3
              20 August 2015 19: 25
              Enough anti-Israeli support.
              There is such a thing - not directly participating in an armed conflict - you can become its beneficiary.
          2. -4
            20 August 2015 11: 50
            firstly, its borders must be protected beyond its borders and no matter how. if Russia won in its territory i.e. allowed an invasion, this is a consequence of losses in the struggle (political, military, economic) beyond the borders of Russia.
            secondly, the Israeli army at that time (however, as now) is armed with modern NATO weapons. The army of Syria and the allies of the USSR weapons. accordingly conclusions.
            And if you do not want to draw conclusions from the events taking place in the middle of nowhere, then yes, you are doomed to show "Kuz'kina's mother" near Moscow.
            1. 0
              20 August 2015 12: 08
              Quote: VladimirRG
              firstly, its borders must be protected beyond its borders and no matter how. if Russia won in its territory i.e. allowed an invasion, this is a consequence of losses in the struggle (political, military, economic) beyond the borders of Russia.
              I will not object to you, since the further debate will not concern the content of the article in any way (by the way, I didn’t give you minuses).
              1. +1
                20 August 2015 12: 21
                these cons are "purple" to me
            2. +3
              20 August 2015 12: 31
              Quote: VladimirRG
              their borders must be protected beyond their borders and no matter how.

              brilliantly. Asks here:
              1. -2
                20 August 2015 13: 00
                see a man has nothing to do.
                1. -1
                  20 August 2015 13: 52
                  Quote: VladimirRG
                  see a man has nothing to do.

                  like most here.
                  Sorry, did not take into account geolocation. Corrected.
                  1. +2
                    20 August 2015 14: 34
                    congratulations. you are not curable.
                    1. 0
                      20 August 2015 14: 40
                      Quote: VladimirRG
                      congratulations. you are not curable.

                      thanks. Everyone in our ward is talented. And Napoleon even embroiders with a cross. Want "The Battle of Austerlitz" by Gerard?
        2. 0
          20 August 2015 13: 24
          Quote: VladimirRG
          Think what you write

          To think, you need to have something fellow SHYUKA humor laughing
          1. 0
            20 August 2015 14: 36
            really. what is it me)))
  37. +5
    20 August 2015 09: 36
    Russian submarines are rusting, planes are turning into scrap, and many projects are stuck at the planning stage.

    Uncle woke up after a long hibernation ??? This is an "expert assessment" 20 years ago.
    No, they do not rust anymore, everything is lubricated and works as it should!

    And here is another fragment I liked ...
    Putin sends his soldiers to fight in different parts of the world, such as, for example, Georgia or Ukraine.

    Well, it is not our fault that Russia is so big and two points on the borders of Russia seem to the "expert" to be different parts of the world ...
    Judging by the opinion of the "expert", the United States, yes, they are modestly digging in their garden at home and not even a foot behind the fence. And Russia gives everyone a light in different parts of the world. request
    1. +2
      20 August 2015 11: 56
      Quote: BigShip
      Russian submarines rust ...
      No, they do not rust anymore, everything is lubricated and works as it should!


      stopudovo! laughing
  38. +4
    20 August 2015 09: 42
    The people and not the army are victorious in the war. The statement of this expert is simply stupid and surprisingly not prof. soldier
  39. +8
    20 August 2015 09: 43
    Putin sends his soldiers to fight in different parts of the world, such as in Georgia or Ukraine

    Hexagonal thinking in all its glory. "The whole world" on the borders with Russia. It is tempting to ask an "expert" about the mileage from state borders to Serbia, Iraq, and further down the list, where the main allies of the kosher experts sow "reasonable, kind, eternal".
  40. +5
    20 August 2015 09: 43
    What else do you hear from the Jews? If you started singing like this, it means that something is improving in our army
  41. +3
    20 August 2015 09: 44
    It's good that our "friends" think so.
  42. 0
    20 August 2015 09: 46
    ISIS in the neighbors !!!! This ANALYTICS from Izrail !!! laughing
  43. +1
    20 August 2015 09: 46
    They blame the Russian army on those states, ct. did not fight with Russia !!!
    Europeans do not allow this. Young Europeans are not Europeans, they are mongrel! They can.
  44. +2
    20 August 2015 09: 46
    The minus of this article is for retelling the retelling as well as the minus of the anonymous original, which no one bothered to read.
    The original contains 7 phenomena of the Russian army:
    1. A large number of non-losses in peacetime and deterioration of discipline
    Example in 2001, 500 soldiers died. Now this is generally a secret.

    2. Lack of funding
    An example of 90 billion US dollars and 500 of these rubles in the USA

    3. Problems with the call.
    Example deviators, demography, problems with the transition to a professional army

    4. Big accident Air Force
    Example extreme disaster Tu-95, Su-24, MiG-29

    5. The only and "not impressive" aircraft carrier in service
    Example in the USA there are 11 of them

    6. Tanks vs Tanks
    An example of about 10 tanks in service, of which only 000 are ready

    7. "Tragedies" in the exercises
    An example in almost all exercises is loss.
    7 סיבות שצבב

    PS
    Here is this article in Russian:
    Seven reasons why the Russian army is not as formidable as it seems
    1. +4
      20 August 2015 10: 24
      So what is the essence of the article? That despite the horror stories In reality, Russia is not looking for war.
    2. +3
      20 August 2015 10: 27
      It must be admitted that airplanes and helicopters are really falling more often. This is already starting to annoy. Otherwise, there is also some truth, but how much has been done compared to previous years. I am far from cheers and patriotic fervor and screams we will tear all! But I think that even in this state, we will be able to kick the ass of the vaunted, fat and financed NATO army. We simply may not have enough people in a serious conflict, because our demography is not good, as you rightly noted.
      1. +1
        20 August 2015 11: 37
        for saveall:
        "we can kick the ass of the vaunted, fat and funded NATO army" ///

        Do not mark all of NATO under one comb. There are different countries with different military
        traditions and different moods. For example, the army of England, although small, is quite combat-ready, with Spartan traditions and militaristic moods.
        The Poles have a large army, full of technology, and they train a lot.
        The Germans are now (fortunately!) In general, not fighters because of pacifist sentiments and a zero budget.
        And the French too. NATO's Weakness - Poor Interaction Between Armies Due
        language barriers. They cannot advance, but they can hold out on the defensive until the approach of American reinforcements can (with a sin in half) smile .
        And do not forget that Europe is full of American aviation. Which has many flight hours and training experience. They can thin out tank divisions from the air very much, even with enemy air defense and serious losses.
        1. +1
          20 August 2015 13: 19
          Quote: voyaka uh
          The Germans are now (fortunately!) In general, not fighters because of pacifist sentiments and a zero budget.

          Alexey, Jewish blood speaks in you. laughing
        2. +3
          20 August 2015 13: 58
          Quote: voyaka uh


          even with enemy air defense and serious losses.

          The key word here is in case of serious losses ... What have the army listed by you with serious losses been capable of, we have not yet seen, but we know something from the history of past wars ...
    3. +6
      20 August 2015 10: 31
      The article is far-fetched and biased.
      1. A large number of non-losses in peacetime and deterioration of discipline
      An example every year in the US Army killed before 1000 troops involved in non-military operations. Was discipline straightforward in all military units tested?) In the USA, similarly, there are violations of discipline.
      [media = https: //fotki.yandex.ru/next/users/elberet545/album/111749/view/451007]

      2. Lack of funding
      Regarding what? The comparison is stupid, in terms of the fact that there are different tasks for the armies. Does the Israeli army have the same insufficient funding?) Or the PRC?) Or Germany, France, etc.?

      3. Problems with the call.
      Again, deviators, in the United States will be considered deviators who did not join the army?)

      4. Big accident Air Force
      US Air Force crash? An example of extreme disasters is F-16, F-18, UH-60.

      5. The only and "not impressive" aircraft carrier in service
      What is not impressive in it?) Why should the Russian Federation have 20 aircraft carriers?) The tasks are different.

      6. Tanks vs Tanks
      In the United States, thousands of different cars are conserved, a common practice in peacetime. (Well, just do not show conservation)

      7. "Tragedies" in the exercises
      Similarly, in the teachings of the United States, alas, large teachings are not without sacrifices for the human factor.

      1. +1
        20 August 2015 10: 38
        Well, that is, the facts are true, is it the interpretation?
        In my opinion, it is necessary to answer the main question asked in

        Does Putin organize a war in Europe.
        Your answer is respected?
        1. +4
          20 August 2015 12: 49
          Quote: tilix
          Does Putin organize a war in Europe.
          Your answer is respected?

          You have already organized it.
        2. 0
          20 August 2015 20: 47
          Quote: tilix
          Well, that is, the facts are true, is it the interpretation?

          Those. half truth, not facts. A similar deplorable situation can be printed about the United States and other countries. There are problems I do not deny, but similar problems can be found in any other country.

          About the war. Does Putin need war? Why the Russian Federation generally war? Why fight with a buyer of resources?) Why lay another branch of the northern stream?) But the US is waging war between the EU and the Russian Federation, because new markets are opening up, you can sell weapons in the EU, you can sell your liquefied gas, food and other goods.
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    5. +4
      20 August 2015 10: 47
      Quote: professor
      2. Lack of funding
      An example of 90 billion US dollars and 500 of these rubles in the USA

      and how much does it take to maintain more than 1000 bases around the planet? on efficiency is a very contentious issue.
      Quote: professor
      5. The only and "not impressive" aircraft carrier in service
      Example in the USA there are 11 of them

      as if the states are an "ocean" power with spheres of interest even on Mars. They need to bring democracy to everyone. it is easier on ships by ocean than by air.
      She and no one argues that the US Navy is the strongest. It has always been so, even at the dawn of the Soviet Navy. though then there were methods of struggle, now there are fewer of them.
      Quote: professor
      4. Big accident Air Force
      Example extreme disaster Tu-95, Su-24, MiG-29

      There was an article recently on the account of US losses for the year: there are MORE !!! and turntables made up with marines, and fighter planes with bombers.
      Consider one thing: the states have more plaque, more practice, more cumulative experience, more LA.
      In the Russian Federation, they began to pay closer attention to the training of pilots, there were more flights, the equipment in the aggregate was old, so the jambs climbed. As if bad, but as if natural.
      but at the expense of the "expert" article: it feels like she’s proplachina kogresom syshya so as not to give dough to the Pentagon laughing . they usually yell at the top of their lungs that the Russian army is the most terrible and scary! and that the midgets of syshya are for nothing and urgently need 100500 horseradish dollars for the defense industry!
    6. +2
      20 August 2015 10: 52
      Quote: professor
      7 סיבות שצבב

      Thanks for the link, prof, I got tired of looking for this article. Yes, as required. Stuffing for VO, in its pure form, clearly with the task of dissolving srach. A twisted retelling from a retelling with a mass of gag. In the best traditions of the Pravda newspaper.



      In general, mako.co.il issued material that, apparently, is a kind of appeal to the world community: “why are you afraid of Russia? ..” Address with the simultaneous assertion that the American army is knights and bright elves, and the Russian army - "crime and chaos." Moreover, this is also a kind of call to action against Russia: “if the army“ rusts ”, then it is time to move on to aggressive attacking steps against Russia.”

      The storyteller's speculation and incitement. In the article about this not a word. There are only bare statistical facts.
    7. +1
      20 August 2015 11: 13
      Professor and how is the news
      Here it seems that they already wrote in the picture of the day that the aircraft-carrying fleet of the "light elves" gave a tear from the Persian Gulf. Looks like the "light elves" with their shale almost burned out (expensive goods are thrown off for a pittance) and decided that the Arabs would fight with each other a little, and in this particular way, with the destruction or at least with the destruction of the oil regions.
      Do not be afraid that you will be greatly hooked.
      And of course, how can one not love the "light elves" by a Jew who give 2,5 yards for armament, albeit for his own and only a pitiful 600 lemons for Israel. At the same time, in ganaya the military-industrial complex of Israel into bondage, not allowing it to develop as there is, by the way, the project of the aircraft Lavi, which was so cleverly hacked by the "light elves"
    8. +2
      20 August 2015 12: 53
      Quote: professor
      Seven reasons why the Russian army is not as formidable as it seems

      So why do you have all the nerves that are shaking from the mention of Russia, probably because the entire population of the country can rise to the aid of our good army, and note without payment. laughing
      7. "Tragedies" in the exercises
      An example in almost all exercises is loss.

      If you are silent about your losses, this does not mean that you do not have them. laughing
      5. The only and "not impressive" aircraft carrier in service
      Example in the USA there are 11 of them

      Well, you do not have the 1st either.
      1. A large number of non-losses in peacetime and deterioration of discipline
      Example in 2001, 500 soldiers died. Now this is generally a secret.

      Can you tell us about your suicides better? wink
      6. Tanks vs Tanks
      An example of about 10 tanks in service, of which only 000 are ready

      Enough for you, even too much. laughing
      3. Problems with the call.
      Example deviators, demography, problems with the transition to a professional army

      Do not tell me why the Jews are trying to hide under the names of others, Polish, German, finally Russian and Ukrainian? Why is a purebred Jew considered one who was born from the mother of a Jewess, and who the father does not matter, do you renew blood? wink laughing
      1. +1
        20 August 2015 14: 01
        Quote: Victor-M
        So why do you have all the nerves that are shaking from the mention of Russia,

        Quote: Victor-M
        Do not tell me why the Jews are trying to hide under the names of others, Polish, German, finally Russian and Ukrainian? Why is a purebred Jew considered one who was born from the mother of a Jewess, and who the father does not matter, do you renew blood?

        Lord, what a boredom. About Christ sellers already been? And what about the genealogy of modern xoxlak authorities? Jewish jokes were? Well, the IDF has already been lowered, seen. Exercises in anti-Semitism?
    9. -1
      20 August 2015 14: 59
      Quote: professor
      PS
      Here is this article in Russian:
      Seven reasons why the Russian army is not as formidable as it seems

      Thanks for the link. Curious comments on the essay. Strange VO policy: why not post the source as vpk did? Is the fragile psyche of patriots protected from Zionist propaganda? laughing Maybe there would be less commentary from the South. Though....
  45. +2
    20 August 2015 09: 47
    Yes, this "expert" is our agent laughing , why are they afraid of a probable enemy? A backward country, a rusty army. Everything is just like that soldier
  46. 0
    20 August 2015 09: 51
    According to the author of the material, the Russian army is a “horror story”, but nothing more. It turns out that Vladimir Putin "is trying to intimidate the world with a rusting army," - this is how the Israeli "analyst" writes in his material.


    No, this is not Putin trying to scare everyone. It’s you (the west) trying to calm yourself.
  47. 0
    20 August 2015 10: 05
    The dog barks, the caravan is coming!
    Maybe it doesn’t keep up, but it is moving towards the intended goal, and this goal is clear and understandable.
    As for the "expert", his opinion is printed on toilet paper am
  48. +1
    20 August 2015 10: 08
    judging by such "examinations", NATO members were cheated again. forcing to cough up on defense. NATO scam belay
  49. +2
    20 August 2015 10: 20
    it becomes more and more difficult to objectively evaluate things for "friends"
    Let them come, check, evaluate. Really. In business. Not for nothing.
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    1. +2
      20 August 2015 11: 04
      Quote: Siberia 9444
      Russia burns the bodies of dead military men, in no case to admit their participation in the Ukrainian conflict. what is he writing! circumcised jew


      If this storyteller bothered to cite the facts as they were presented in the article, there would be less shouting. The original clearly stated with a reservation that this is according to the version of Ukraine, and not just according to the author as presented here! And the rest is in a similar spirit.
      In short, are you not tired of "hawala" everything that they feed you here? This "stuffing" does not even deserve the time spent on it.
      author of this opus, ay!
      Who are you?
  51. +1
    20 August 2015 10: 45
    It's good when your potential opponent does not underestimate you - there will be something to surprise you in the event of a real collision!!!
  52. 0
    20 August 2015 10: 50
    This is a Jew...not a crest by any chance? made me laugh....
    1. 0
      20 August 2015 11: 07
      Quote: Alexey-74
      This is a Jew...not a crest by any chance?

      Doesn't seem like it, most likely Sephardi.
  53. +2
    20 August 2015 10: 53
    We need to add the “rusty” S400 and MIG 31 to Syria and a little to Egypt, let the experts “rust” there be pleased.
    1. 0
      20 August 2015 17: 36
      Quote: paper
      We need to add the “rusty” s400 and mig 31....and a little bit of Egypt

      Perhaps you got carried away. The Egyptian ambassador was returned to the State Safety Inspectorate; it seems they are going to buy gas from the Jews. Even the fussing Erdogan with his incriminating evidence that, they say, it was the Jews who picked off Mursi, was quietly bored. So, as one Crimean woman said, “not everything here is clear…”
  54. +2
    20 August 2015 10: 55
    Quote: Sukhoy_T-50
    Quote: Aron Zaavi
    None mako.co.il will be a single lover of military subjects from Israel.

    What is it, maco.co.il.-fake meter like the Ukrainian Censor?

    This is the Israeli "Bulletin of Mordovia" laughing
    1. 0
      20 August 2015 11: 08
      Quote: Normal ok
      This is the Israeli "Bulletin of Mordovia"

      More like "Moldovia"
  55. 0
    20 August 2015 11: 00
    So then why have the Americans come to Europe in large numbers again, are conducting exercises, and their Eastern European bedding is drinking from fear?
  56. +1
    20 August 2015 11: 04
    The worst thing is to underestimate the enemy. Well, this Jew works for the Russian Federation......
  57. 0
    20 August 2015 11: 06
    Quote: bes513
    They just understand the language, but the mentality is Western, as well as a bunch of complexes of resentment, rejection and arrogance towards the “country they abandoned with such difficulty” (usually they were taken out as children). And when they write some kind of analysis about Russia, the result is an extravaganza of Russophobia and classic symptoms of advanced cholecystitis. Even when they don’t want to hurt you or spoil you (this happens sometimes).


    This is called the "Freud complex" wink hi
  58. 0
    20 August 2015 11: 12
    and Jews only know how to talk belay . they only know how to fight against unarmed police love .they would remember the Persians. good and Iran is the former Persia, so they howled about the lifting of sanctions against Iran. crying
  59. 0
    20 August 2015 11: 17
    It's good that they think so. The harsher the epiphany and fall will be!
    Although we will tear all these non-humans into the British flag with our bare hands.
    Only arrogant Zionists and Westerners will never dare to allow this in their lives. They can bark as much as they want, but a real military confrontation with Russia is impossible for them.
    Well, what to talk about with the poor?
  60. 0
    20 August 2015 11: 26
    It remains to be tested for yourself, however...
  61. 0
    20 August 2015 11: 46
    Another expert. Here are the experts for you - .
  62. +3
    20 August 2015 11: 55
    Yakov Kedmi, in my opinion, is a very competent and sane Israeli expert. I am waiting for the opinions of Israeli colleagues on the site...
  63. 0
    20 August 2015 12: 25
    Quote: Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
    Ugh on you, Mr. Israeli "expert".



    Well, let them think so... idiots! good

    P.S. And I remember recently... a decree or something else was issued in Israel... to classify the data of those killed in the Israeli army... because there are a lot of suicides... So who is talking about what?! hi
  64. +1
    20 August 2015 12: 28
    The Russian Army only needs one missile for the territory of Israel to cease to exist. Otherwise, yes, completely “weak and rusty” laughing .
  65. +2
    20 August 2015 12: 32
    The Israeli expert is disingenuous when he calls the strength of the Russian army exaggerated.
    Yes, Israel has an excellent combat-ready army, yes, Europe has well-armed and trained armies. But.... All the armies listed above can be conditionally called “armies of local conflicts”, nothing more. In the event of a global clash, there will be three on the battlefield: the United States, on the one hand, and, apparently, Russia and China on the other. India and Iran cannot be discounted. On the side of the mattresses are high-tech modern weapons, control systems, data of all kinds intelligence. Plus a PR system that has been worked out over the years, which will be used to the fullest (however, it has not stopped operating). The Americans cannot withstand one thing - a long war of attrition; they are not used to it, and the Russians and Chinese have a genetic memory for such things.. .
    It will be very funny if now one of the forum members starts singing about a global nuclear (or non-nuclear strike). There will be a GUARANTEED return with CATASTROPHIC UNACCEPTABLE LOSSES. And the “white-toothed g.e.i”, because of the puddle, really value their comfortable, well-fed rear-wheel drive life ...
    1. 0
      25 October 2015 16: 55
      I think that analysts of any country should simulate situations at different levels of those events that will be associated with defeat or victory. Therefore, only amateurs can talk about defeat or victory as such. The question is how events will develop and how they should be managed in new confrontational conditions, etc.
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  67. 0
    20 August 2015 13: 09
    So come visit us and check out our army.
  68. +1
    20 August 2015 13: 12
    a good expert, he is also a provocateur
  69. 0
    20 August 2015 13: 17
    Ugh, we still didn’t have enough of this specialist’s opinion.
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  72. 0
    20 August 2015 13: 34
    I read the Bible, how many times Jews betrayed God and worshiped idols, how many times God punished them, destroying them by tens and hundreds of thousands for treason. Rus' more than a thousand years ago adopted Orthodoxy and is still faithful to it and defends it, this scribbler is a bright representative of his people, but simply put, a political whore and a prostitute who licked the rotten, rotten ass of the American-European Indian. And let me remind you what weapons we have, when you and your fagots fired missiles in 2014, our over-the-horizon radar near Voronezh was the first to detect them, and determined who fired and when. The only question is, you and your a\e fagots are still silent why these missiles, having flown 280 km, fell into the sea without hitting the target. So our “Jewish friend” push your tongue up your ass, otherwise God will punish you too, for lying, chatter and prostitution.
  73. 0
    20 August 2015 14: 35
    Quote: mikh-korsakov
    And everyone has the right and the opportunity to object to him. But to object is not to spread rot.


    As my classmate said, immediately after demobilization: To object is to give birth!
    This wonderful phrase he was trained by his unit sergeant smile
  74. 0
    20 August 2015 15: 26
    Quote: Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
    Ugh on you, Mr. Israeli "expert".

    The usual pro-Western order. Nothing new. Don't care and forget.
    I had fun about the “newest Abrams tanks”, the last of which was made in 1991 and has only been modernized since then (like our T-72s). But Russia can and will produce the latest tanks, but the United States has even completely destroyed its tank production.
  75. +1
    20 August 2015 15: 41
    The author is one of those who are for fascism!
  76. +1
    20 August 2015 15: 43
    Addressing Himler, Hitler said “The Soviet Union, like an old hut, just knock on it and everything will crumble into dust...”. Anyone want to double check?
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  78. +1
    20 August 2015 17: 07
    The dog is barking, the wind is blowing, aren’t we, foaming at the mouth and tearing out our hair, trying to convince anyone (especially an incomprehensible expert) that this is all wrong? This is your VERY subjective opinion, let it remain with you as an expert.
  79. +1
    20 August 2015 18: 50
    There was one such politician in the 30s, he also said something similar about Russia, and just recently another “cool” politician with a Georgian surname talked about the complete decline of the Russian army, and then the first swallowed poison in his lair, and the second was frightened ties.
  80. 0
    20 August 2015 18: 59
    Well, this “Xperd” news had not yet been announced by their “native” Hitler called us “Ear of Clay Feet”, but the bullshit he received from this did not become any softer for him.
  81. 0
    20 August 2015 19: 58
    Israel needs to take care of itself not about Russia, but about itself. Perhaps soon the state will cease to exist altogether, bearded men from ISIS are on the way.
  82. 0
    20 August 2015 20: 24
    the strength of the army, well, I don’t know how much it is exaggerated, but you Jews cannot understand about the strength of spirit of the Russian soldier, even those who were born and raised in the USSR, and now you are throwing mud at your essentially Motherland. How much did you sell Christ for? For 30 pieces of silver. So your opinion is ugh, you can only write nasty things.
  83. 0
    20 August 2015 20: 49
    I was very surprised by one story told about an Israeli soldier with a military specialty as an electrician; he died. But if not from a bullet, he died from an electric shock, he did not know that electricity kills, this is a fact; he was not taught physics, chemistry and biology at school, but he knew the Torah by heart because he studied it the rest of the time instead of these subjects. And such schools in Israel are now 50 percent and more and more are ordinary schools, and what is going on with a religious bias is generally on the verge of understanding there, they seriously claim that it is not the soldiers who are waging war, but they are holding the dome that protects their land with their prayers and if they stop praying, then their entire state will be destroyed and everything rests only on them. And these people can be experts))))).
  84. 0
    20 August 2015 21: 00
    Have the Jews decided to pit NATO and Russia against each other? I’m afraid that in the event of such a conflict, Jews as a nation, especially experts on Russia, will sink into oblivion!
  85. 0
    21 August 2015 00: 00
    Quote: Krasmash
    ... Aid to Donbass is not included in this number: 10 columns of the Russian Emergency Situations Ministry delivered 13,4 thousand tons of humanitarian aid there, that is, more than to all other countries combined.
    At the moment, humanitarian convoys have delivered more than 42 thousand tons of aid to Novorossiya.
  86. +1
    21 August 2015 03: 36
    This is the first time I’ve seen an idiot Jew winked
  87. 0
    21 August 2015 11: 22
    Where are the quotes from the Talmud? It's not kosher without them.
  88. 0
    22 August 2015 21: 50
    Quote: voyaka uh
    The army of England, although small, is quite combat-ready, with Spartan traditions and militaristic sentiments


    http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/1340530/

  89. 0
    23 August 2015 21: 41
    I hope they don’t want to test our “rust” so to speak?

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