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112 years ago the cruiser Varyag was launched

The cruiser "Varyag" - the legend of Russian fleet. It was built in Philadelphia (USA). During the Russo-Japanese War on February 9, 1904, the first-class cruiser Varyag and the gunboat Koreets were blocked by a Japanese squadron of 15 ships in the Korean port of Chemulpo. The Russian sailors rejected the proposal to surrender and lower the flags and entered into an unequal battle, which they lost. After the battle, “Korean” was blown up, “Varangian” was flooded.

In 1905, the Japanese raised the "Varyag" and introduced them into their fleet under the name "Soya". During World War I, in 1916, Russia bought out the Varyag from its former enemies, along with other captured ships of the First Pacific Squadron.

“WHEN DAWN BROKEN, a difficult picture appeared to the eyes of the Arthurians: two of our best battleships and the armored cruiser Pallada, blown up by Japanese mines, stood helplessly near Tigrovka ... Alas, only now doubts about the inevitability of war have disappeared," Japanese War on the night of January 26-27, 1904 in the collection historical research "Defense of Port Arthur" (St. Petersburg, 1910). The treacherous attack by the Japanese on the ships of the enemy (who did not yet know that he was the enemy, because the war had not been declared) - such is the style of the instigator, who was striving to ensure dominance in the future theater of operations with one blow. Disabling two of the seven battleships and one of the four cruisers of the 1st rank of the Pacific squadron entailed the entire chain of events, dramatic for Russia: the complete seizure of the initiative by the Japanese fleet, the landing of Japanese infantry on the mainland, the 11-month heroic defense and the fall of Port Arthur. But the most tragic moments of the Russo-Japanese war are written on the lead pages of the Pacific waves: the death of the destroyer "Guarding", the defeat of the Russian squadron at Tsushima, the legendary heroic battle of the cruiser "Varyag" and the gunboat "Koreets" with the Japanese squadron on the roadstead of the Korean port of Chemulpo.

Russia missed the war with Japan and lost. Monstrous distances between the rear and the front - eight thousand miles on a single and still unfinished Trans-Siberian railway, and even a fantastic quartermaster robbery. What are the mere supplies to the army of boots with cardboard soles! The rearmament was not completed. However, Russia was never ready for any war. Her war machine, with the constant underestimation of the enemy, as always in our history, knocked together on the go. The Japanese have been preparing their fleet for military operations for eight years, sparing no money for it, and our sailors practically did not conduct exercises.

Here's how the situation in the Pacific Fleet described in his book “Port Arthur - the eyewitness diary” Captain 2 rank Vladimir Semenov: “As a result of ... credit cuts ... the ships sailed no more than 20 days a year, and the rest of the time was portrayed ... floating barracks. The arrival of the popular admiral (Stepan Makarov. - V.A.) ... could have helped the team learn, in the shortest possible time, about what they missed in peacetime. But nothing, no effort could make up for the irretrievably missed practice of swimming ... Men dressed in sailor shirts ... it was possible to turn into heroes, but to make them experienced sailors, and to turn a bunch of floating barracks into a combat squadron - this required long years ... Admiral, who took command of the fleet in order to lead him into battle, was forced to teach him to perform simple maneuvers ... "

Dagger in the back victory

The feats of the defenders of Port Arthur and the crew of the Varyag cruiser, celebrated in many songs, were not performed on Russian soil and not in Russian waters: Port Arthur and Dalniy were located on the Kvantunsky Peninsula, leased by Russia from China for 25-year terms. The Russian-Japanese war, which was conducted not on Russian and not on Japanese, but on Chinese territory with the indifference of its true master, the Chinese imperial Qing dynasty, is marked in the history of Russia by mediocre command and selfless heroism of soldiers and sailors. But the main thing (and this situation was repeated in 1917 on the fronts of the First World War) was that the army received, as the right-wing archives were saying, a “dagger in the back of victory” from the liberal intelligentsia. It was her efforts, combined with the efforts of the Japanese, and the “efforts” of the quartermaster thieves that led to the defeat of Russia.

“If we are distressed and ill at heart about our failures and heavy losses, we will not be embarrassed. In them the Russian power is being renewed, in them the Russian power is growing stronger, growing. With all of Russia, I believe that the hour of our victory will come, and that the Lord God will bless my dear troops and fleet with a friendly onslaught to break the enemy and support the honor and glory of our Motherland. ” When Nicholas II signed this order to the army and navy, promulgated by 1 January 1905, he did not yet know what new losses were waiting for Russia. Ahead was Tsushima. If Port Arthur, during the defense of which about 27 thousands of Russians were killed and wounded, cost the Japanese thousands of people in 110, the squadron of Vice Admiral Zinovy ​​Rozhdestvensky, who arrived in the Pacific Ocean only six months after the surrender of the fortress, was quietly and methodically shot by the Japanese , almost no loss for the enemy.

The final bitter chord of the war was the Portsmouth Peace Treaty, in which Russia ceded Japan the right to lease Port Arthur and Dalny with the adjacent territories and the southern part of Sakhalin.

There are shameful defeats, but there are also such ones that are more precious than any victory. Defeats that temper the military spirit, which are composed of songs and legends. The feat always involves a free choice between life and death. Between shame and honor. The Soviet classic inspired us that "the most precious thing for a person is life." But the Russian military tradition speaks of something else: the most precious thing for a man is honor. The heroic death of "Varyag" is proof of this.

Any negotiations are unnecessary ...

On the night of January 27, the Japanese squadron of Admiral Togo suddenly attacked the Russian squadron in Port Arthur, in the morning another squadron, Rear Admiral Uriu, attacked the cruiser Varyag and the gunner Korean in the Korean port Chemulpo.

"Varyag" appeared in the Korean port as a stationary of the Russian state, ensuring the normal operation of its embassy in the neighboring country. The ship of the new (American) construction of the 1901 of the year had a displacement of 6500 t, a good speed of travel - 24 knot (44 km / h). Crew - 570 man. Armament: twelve 152-mm guns, twelve 75-mm, eight 47-mm, two 37-mm guns and 6 torpedo tubes.

The cruiser was commanded by captain 1 of the rank of Vsevolod Fedorovich Rudnev, an officer trained in the best traditions of the Russian fleet, whose naval charter for three centuries demanded that the honor of the Russian name and the dignity of the Russian flag be strengthened in every way. On the evening of January 23, the commanders of foreign ships stationed in Chemulpo reported to Rudnev that Japan had severed relations with Russia. The inevitability of the attack was also confirmed by the night-time departure from the anchorage of the Japanese stationer — the cruiser Chiyoda.

On January 26, the Russian envoy in Seoul allowed Rudnev to send the gunboat "Koreyets" with an alarming dispatch to Port Arthur. Before entering the neutral Chemulpin raid, the Japanese attacked the Russian gunboat. However, three torpedoes fired did not hit the target. The fourth Korean torpedo attack attack commander, Koreans captain 2 of the rank of Grigory Belyaev ripped off, taking his small ship to the ram of a Japanese destroyer. He turned away without firing a torpedo. The commander of the Koreyts delivered to the port a disappointing message: the enemy had more than a dozen pennants.

On the same day, the Japanese squadron entered the Chemulpo raid. At Varyag and Korey, they prepared for the battle: they hatched the hatches, handed projectiles and cartridges from the cellars, checked the fire hoses. Japanese destroyers from a distance of two cables (about 360 m) sent their torpedo tubes to Russian ships, where the gunners were on duty at the guns all night, ready to immediately open fire. The commander of the enemy squadron, Rear Admiral Uriu, did not dare to attack the Russians in the raid, but he completed half of the task ahead. A landing party was landed from the Japanese transports on the Korean coast. Since there was no declaration of war, the Russians did not hinder this.

On the morning of January 27 (February 9) 1904, the Japanese admiral addressed the Russians with the threat of attacking Russian ships in the raid if they did not leave it before noon. In the port there were stationary cruisers in Britain, France, Italy and the USA. Rudnev decided to attempt to break through in Port Arthur and not to fight in the roadstead so that foreign ships of the neutral powers would not suffer, as he warned their captains. Historical objectivity demands that the commanders of the military courts of England, France and Italy sent a protest to the Japanese admiral (the commander of the American advice "Vicksburg" refused to sign it) demanding peace talks. Uriu received a protest, but found it possible to answer it only after the battle: “In view of the decision made by the brave Russian commander, any negotiations are unnecessary.” These were probably the features of Japanese military diplomacy — first attack, then negotiate.

Battle Chronicle:
"Upstairs, you comrades ..."

27 January in 9.30 on the cruiser began to breed a pair. The commander of the "Varyag" announced the officers of the start of hostilities. A unanimous decision is taken - to go for a breakthrough, and in case of failure - to blow up the ship, but not to give it to the enemy.

In 10.45, the cruiser commander addressed the crew on deck. He reported on the received Japanese ultimatum and said: "There can be no talk about surrender - we will not surrender to them the cruiser, nor ourselves, and we will fight to the last opportunity and to the last drop of blood." By tradition, all sailors were disguised as clean shirts, sober and ready for death. It was believed that before the battle, as before communion, sin to drink vodka.
The team sounded in 11.10: “Everything is upstairs, to be removed from the anchor”. Ten minutes later, "Varyag" was removed from the anchor. "Korean" followed in the wake of the wilderness. Teams of foreign ships, built to the front on the decks, paid tribute to the courage of the sailors of Russia, marching into a hopeless battle. Brass orchestras of foreign fleets played the anthem of Russia. Subsequently, foreigners talked about the greatness of this moment. Acknowledged that they had survived a difficult moment, seeing off people who were going to die. According to foreigners, to accept the challenge to fight with the squadron is many times the strongest - this is a feat that few people will decide. “Varyag” was also doomed because the small move of the “Korean” linked the speed of its maneuvers, and the guns of the old system did not reach the goal and turned out to be practically useless.

Two ships under the flag of St. Andrew followed a narrow channel abounding in rocks and shoals. There was no question of maneuvering in the upcoming battle. The Japanese squadron was waiting for the Russians at the exit to the open sea: the armored cruiser “Asama”, the armored cruisers “Naniwa”, “Takachiho”, “Niytaka”, “Akashi”, “Chiyoda”, eight torpedo boats and an armed messenger ship.

In 11.45, after the Varyag responded to the Japanese signal for surrender with a proud silence, the first shots from the Asama began to thunder. With the "Varyag" hit the right side guns. "Korean" while silent. Large-caliber, obsolete gunboat cannon boats were short-lived, and half of the battle they had to do nothing. A barrage of artillery fire fell upon the Varyag. He fired armor-piercing shells against his main adversary, the Asama, and very successfully. Russian commanders fired from the upper deck guns that did not have armor protection. It was here that we had the most losses.
In 12.05 cruiser commander
He gave the order to turn to the right, in order to introduce the weapon of the port side. And at this time, two large-caliber shells hit the ship. "Varyag" lost control of the wheel. Wounded Rudnev. The Japanese reinforce the shelling. Varyag received an underwater hole through which water poured into the coal pits of the boilers. Foci of fire flashed here and there on the cruiser ... The sailors were exhausted, fighting with fire.

The crew of the Varyag put all their fury into the volleys from the guns of the left side. Asama received several direct hits. On the flagship of Admiral Uriu, the stern artillery tower was disabled. "Korean", changing course, covered with fire waste wounded cruiser. In 12.45, with the approach of the Russian ships to the Chemulpo raid, the battle stopped.

The return of the heroes - the defeat sung in the songs

The French cruiser commander Victor Sanos, who arrived at the Varyag, writes in his diary: “I will never forget this amazing spectacle that presented itself to me: the deck is covered with blood, corpses and body parts are everywhere. Nothing escaped destruction: in places where shells were torn, paint was charred, all iron parts were punched, fans were knocked down, the sides and cots were burned. Where there was so much heroism, everything was rendered unusable, broken into pieces, riddled; the remains of the bridge hung pitiably. Smoke came from all the holes in the stern and the list on the port side increased. " In an unequal sea battle the cruiser lost its combat capability. Nearly half of the upper deck gunners died. Several underwater holes deprived Varyag of its usual course.

The fate of "Varyag" and "Koreans" was resolved. The commanders of the ships decided not to surrender the ships to the enemy. The Koreon gunboat was blown up by the crew, the team opened the Kingston in 15.30 on the Varyag. In 18.10 "Varyag" lay on board and after a moment disappeared under the water. The French cruiser Pascal, the English cruiser Talbot and the Italian cruiser Elba raised the surviving remnants of Russian ship crews onto their decks. The commander of the American ship refused to take part in rescue operations.

The Japanese suffered no less losses. The Varyag inflicted heavy damage on 2 cruisers - especially the flagship of the Assam hit, and the destroyer 1 sank. Vsevolod Rudnev informed Admiral Yevgeny Alekseev, Tsarist governor in the Far East: “The ships of the detachment supported the honor of the Russian flag with dignity, exhausted all means for the breakthrough, prevented the Japanese from winning, caused many losses to the enemy and saved the rest of the team.” The Varyag team has lost 122 people killed and wounded. The surviving sailors "Varyag" and "Koreyets" returned to Russia through neutral ports and were awarded St. George's crosses.

The first solemn meeting of the heroes took place in Odessa. From there, the sailors were warmly welcomed by ordinary people all the way to St. Petersburg. And on April 16 the sailors of “Varyag” and “Koreyets” accompanied by the music of the guards orchestras marched along Nevsky Prospect. In the Winter Palace after the prayer service, Emperor Nicholas II gave a dinner in honor of the heroes of Chemulpo. Vsevolod Rudnev was appointed commander of the battleship “Andrey Pervozvanny” under construction - the most powerful ship of the Russian fleet at that time.

In 1905, Varyag was raised by the Japanese and enlisted in a fleet called “Soya”, but in April 1916 was bought by Russia from Japan, and in November under the former name he came to the Kola Bay, where he was included in the Northern Fleet. Arctic Ocean. In February, 1917, the ship went to repair in England, but until the end of World War I was not repaired and then was sold for scrap.

112 years ago the cruiser Varyag was launched

Fulfilled prophecy

Yes, Russia lost in the 1905 year, but according to a fair remark by the great Russian philosopher Ivan Solonevich: “Russians sometimes lost the first battles, but so far have not lost any of the last.” Many blame the tsarist autocracy for all our troubles, but Winston Churchill wrote about this after World War I. “The idea of ​​the tsarist regime as narrow-hearted and rotten answers the superficial statements of our day. By the blows that the Russian Empire survived, by the catastrophes that fell on it, we can judge its strength ... Nicholas II was neither a great leader nor a great king. He was only a sincere, simple man with average abilities ... Justice requires recognition of all that he has achieved. Let him blacken his actions and insult his memory - but let them say: who else was more suitable? There was no shortage of talented and brave people. But on the verge of victory, Russia fell to the ground, devoured alive by worms. ” Unfortunately, these “worms” devoured the empire already before the start of the Russian-Japanese war.

The prophecy of Nicholas II - “the hour of our victory will come” - has come true ... in forty years. 22 and 23 August 1945 of the year Soviet paratroopers freed Dalny and Port Arthur from the Japanese invaders, who later with good reason passed under Chinese sovereignty under their historical names Dalian and Lushun. During the battles from August 18 to September 1, after the complete defeat and surrender of the Kwantung Army, South Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands were released and returned to Russia.

In 1996, a new ship appeared in the Pacific - the Varyag Guards missile cruiser. It was built in 1983 at the Nikolaev Shipyard and was incorporated into the Black Sea Fleet under the name Chervona Ukraine. In 1996, he was transferred to the Pacific Ocean, where, in memory of the legendary cruiser, he was renamed Varyag and was awarded the Guards banner. On the days of the 300 anniversary celebration of the Russian fleet, at the beginning of February 1996, the Varyag rocket cruiser arrived at the Korean port of Chemulpo, to the place of the death of its ancestor, to give memorable honors to the dead seamen. By the order of the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy, the place of the Varyag and Koreyets death was declared the coordinates of combat glory, and all Russian warships lowered flags here. For success in combat training by order of the Pacific Fleet commander in 1998, the missile cruiser Varyag became the flagship of the Pacific Fleet. And in December 2003, the small anti-submarine ship (MPK-222) of the Pacific Fleet was named Korean.

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  1. irony
    irony 1 November 2011 10: 13
    Eternal Glory to the Heroes!
  2. pretorianec
    pretorianec 1 November 2011 10: 45
    The pride and honor of our fleet!
    Eternal memory to heroes!
  3. Krilion
    Krilion 1 November 2011 11: 59
    The proposal to surrender and lower the flags Russian sailors rejected and entered into an unequal battle, which lost

    only a complete dunce can say this .. Russian hero sailors did NOT lose this battle, but covered themselves with eternal glory ... punish the author ...

    The French cruiser Pascal, the English cruiser Talbot and the Italian cruiser Elba lifted up the surviving remnants of the crews of Russian ships onto their decks. The commander of the American ship refused to take part in the rescue operations.

    Americans have always been, are and will be scum .. proceeding from this, relations with them should be built ...
    1. Denis
      Denis 3 November 2011 21: 23
      and this: "The Russian gunners fired from the upper deck cannons, which did not have armor protection. It was here that we had the most losses."
      Pindos and then spoiled the armor-shields of the guns during construction "forgot" to install
      1. Alf
        Alf 4 March 2012 22: 26
        This is not amers tried. Initially, according to the project, the Varyag's guns were covered with shields and instead of the tank and poop six-inch guns were 8-inches. In this case, the ordering party "tried" to simplify and reduce the cost of the project.
  4. Mesniy
    Mesniy 1 November 2011 13: 10
    Instead of making a breakthrough and preserving a valuable combat unit, the Varangians did not inflict severe damage on the Japanese cruisers, the same Asama took an active part in the subsequent actions, while the destroyed destroyer was a numbered, tiny outdated vessel.
    If it were not for the unsuccessful war, in which Russia had nothing to be proud of, there would have been no praise for the role of the Varangian in this battle, but when everything is bad, the heroes are needed first and foremost ...
    If you have an open mind to look at what happened - it looks extremely stupid to cling to an old useless Korean, you had to remove his team and leave, the Varangian - the newest and fastest would easily leave.
    And so - minimal damage to the Japanese and two units at the bottom.
    1. fellow misha
      fellow misha 1 November 2011 20: 57
      Well, why do you need to climb here with your snout, here we are talking about a Russian shrine, about real Russian people, I emphasize about real ones. On this site there are a lot of places where you can freely express your thoughts and show off your military knowledge, but here it is not necessary, let's go with God.
      1. Mesniy
        Mesniy 2 November 2011 10: 27
        without your snot I’ll figure out where to climb and where not
        1. подводник
          подводник 2 November 2011 17: 22
          I didn’t try to penetrate the anus with my tongue?
        2. ballian
          ballian 2 November 2011 20: 23
          It would be more correct to say that "Varyag" IN GENERAL did not cause any serious damage to the Japanese ships, and the allegedly sunk destroyer was also bullshit. According to Japanese data, they had NO damage or loss in battle.
          1. ESCANDER
            ESCANDER 2 November 2011 20: 30
            Data to the studio!
            1. ballian
              ballian 2 November 2011 21: 43
              Just the same data in the studio should give spreading stories about the damage and sinking of the Japanese. , the Japanese themselves claim that, in the battle at Chemulpo, their ships remained unharmed. In the official publication of the Japanese Naval General Staff "Description of military operations at sea in 37-38. Meiji (1904-1905)" (vol. I, 1909) we read: "In this battle, enemy shells never hit to our ships and we have not suffered the slightest loss. "
              1. Alf
                Alf 4 March 2012 22: 21
                As for the loss of the Japanese. In the German Air Force and Panzerwaffe, tanks and planes also went out of order solely due to technical losses, but for some reason remained in the fields with holes in the sides and ripped off towers. In this case, Yapi is too interested to accept their words on faith ..
          2. mitrich
            mitrich 2 November 2011 20: 31
            How is it possible, Ballian, to go out alone with a dozen? After all, they pile on, or even kill inadvertently. You should have lifted your paws up, right, "Siberian"?
            The crews of foreign warships were built at the stern, escorting the "Varyag" and "Koreyets" from the bay, and our homegrown wiseacre after 100 years was all in doubts about the feat of Russian sailors.
            Samsonov, write an article about that battle, information is probably in the I-net.
          3. fellow misha
            fellow misha 2 November 2011 21: 42
            Your idols Stepan Bander and Roman Shukhevych were deprived of the title of "Hero of Ukraine", so you are angry, and the cruiser "Varyag" and its crew will never be deprived of the title of "Heroes" because they won this title in battle with an enemy superior in all respects and the memory of them will live forever in the hearts of the Russian people, and your pseudo-heroes have earned the title of executioners in battles with unarmed people and partisans. By the way, the crew of the cruiser was, as they say, international, the Ukrainians were there too.
            1. ballian
              ballian 3 November 2011 20: 26
              Of course, I am aware that the pathological slanderers mowing down here as patriots, attributing their complexes to me, somehow in Siberia, I don’t care about these comrades.
              Well, if it comes to that - I'll educate - they asked for it themselves - Shukhevych also died in battle with superior Soviet forces, only unlike the Varyag, he managed to send one of the Soviet to the next world in battle.
              1. fellow misha
                fellow misha 6 November 2011 19: 05
                You are funny ballian, you put two such examples on the "comparison scales" and you are a nice person wrote: "he managed to send one of the Soviet"Well, you so bashfully called Major Revenko, an employee of the department of the 2-N MGB of the Ukrainian SSR," Soviet. "I would have immediately called a traitor to Ukraine, a Moscow henchman, it was probably possible only in those days there were millions of such" traitors ", unlike your idols who were forests
            2. mart3365
              mart3365 11 March 2012 02: 55
              A oni na samom deleting GEROI ... Vse geroi-kto borolsja v LJUBOM ka4estve s sovetskoj vlastju ... Pos4itaj-ih u vas mnogo dolzno byti-bolee 50 mln ...- Pamjatnok im postavte! .. A to vse slavite sudeovsk istoriju!))))
              1. Eugene
                Eugene 11 March 2012 03: 05
                do not forget about your friends, at whom the fascists carry monuments from the city center with graves and march under a swastika. Tell about the valor of your "homeland defenders" to the prisoners of Salaspils, Asventsim. Tell this to the relatives of those who were burned in the ovens, gassed, and the bones sent for fertilization.
                Continue to believe in your Estonian heroes under the seal of a swastika.
      ESCANDER 1 November 2011 21: 25
      Everyone imagines himself a strategist, seeing the battle from the side.
    3. zczczc
      zczczc 2 November 2011 01: 21
      MesniyHave you ever seen anything good?

      "The boy gave the girl a flower" - you would probably see a catch here :)))
      1. ESCANDER
        ESCANDER 2 November 2011 07: 57
        Of course I would have seen:
        He wants to quit and quit, and not a boy at all, but a pedophile from the State Duma ...
    4. подводник
      подводник 2 November 2011 17: 20
      "If not for the unsuccessful war, in which Russia has nothing to be proud of ........................"

      RUSSIA need not be proud of you "mesniy"!

      RUSSIA will always be proud of its heroes!
    5. ballian
      ballian 2 November 2011 20: 12
      It would be more correct to say that the "Varyag" IN GENERAL did not cause any serious damage to the Japanese ships, and the allegedly sunk destroyer was also bullshit. According to Japanese data, they had NO losses in battle.
    6. irony
      irony 4 November 2011 22: 08
      The parable about the eagle and the crow you know, dear? Thought out as an average European. With this approach, they traveled all over Europe in 1939-1940. Thoughtfully surrendered. Crows, not crows ... Spit on you pulls.
    7. mart3365
      mart3365 11 March 2012 02: 51
      , and even fantastic quartermaster robbery. What are the mere supplies to the army of boots with cardboard soles! The rearmament was not completed.
      -Vedj bolee100 let proslo! ..- A voz i nyne tam ze! .. 4to za strana takaja?)))))
  5. PSih2097
    PSih2097 1 November 2011 16: 37
    In fact, those who purchased this cruiser needed to work on a memorable battle as a commandant. Rudnev had two options for the development of events:
    1) To undermine the Korean and not accepting the battle and blow into Port Arthur in full steam (they did not yet know about the declaration of war) and under tsushima he could play a role.
    2) Take the fight and try to break out (losing in advance - due to the low speed of the Korean) ...
    Well, the third option is described in "The Return of the Varyag" - this is of course a fantasy, but the battle of the Varangian is considered from all sides.
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  7. bandabas
    bandabas 1 November 2011 20: 39
    Varyagu-URA ,,, URA ,,, URRRAAA. According to the story. It has not been reprinted for a long time. There is a very good book (well, of course, more fiction) Port Arthur A. Stepanova. I read it several times. I recommend to all.
    1. Mesniy
      Mesniy 2 November 2011 10: 39
      and also "tsushima" -novikov-surf author, with a komunyachy smell of course, but still worth reading
      1. fellow misha
        fellow misha 2 November 2011 23: 58
        And what do you want to tell us with this comment, what idea to convey, have you left an ambush? I liked the book I read twice in 1994 and 2002, it tells about a tragic page in the history of the Russian fleet, the history of Russia consists not only of victories but also of defeats, the Russian people know how to lose, therefore this book is one of the best Soviet historical novels readable and this time. As for the communist darling, my opinion, personally, of mine and no one else’s opinion, is who would give him Novikov-Surf in the USSR in 1932 to publish a historical novel about the tsarist fleet without such a raid.
  8. ztk1
    ztk1 2 November 2011 01: 06
    “The winner is the one who fights well, not paying attention to his losses and remembering that the enemy has even more losses” (S.O. Makarov, Reasoning on marine tactics).
  9. Magadan
    Magadan 2 November 2011 01: 48
    The article famously says about "a knife in the back to victory" in the face of lousy intellectuals and thieves-quartermasters. This is our eternal misfortune. On the one hand, "clever svanidze posners" paid for by the West, other "clever men" with a diseased brain, giving birth to sick, unfounded theories (democracy, humanism, etc.), and on the other hand - " thieves-quartermasters. " To me, the Russian-Japanese First Chechen in this regard reminds me of the Judas-Kovalev, "intellectual" and ours, Magadan, by the way, a thief (I even forgot his last name), which Grozny then "restored" (paid the Chechens to blow up the house, so that he could write off money)
    1. Mesniy
      Mesniy 2 November 2011 10: 34
      No, "a knife in the back of victory" was stuck by all sorts of Bolsheviks and other evil spirits that organized the revolution of 1905. These are the enemies of Russia for all time, now they are called edrosos.
  10. dred
    dred 2 November 2011 18: 09
    Our fleet is the best in the world.
    1. ballian
      ballian 2 November 2011 20: 15
      ",,,, If Port Arthur, ..... cost the Japanese 110 thousand people"
      Well, how much can you repeat this bullshit number? There is accurate Japanese data - 60 of thousands of dead and wounded.
      1. ballian
        ballian 2 November 2011 20: 28
        Here is an excellent analysis of the mistakes of the Russians and what really happened there in battle, and not in the fantasies of an ignoramus, and about how and why this PR with "Varyag" was organized by the tsarist authorities.

        1. ESCANDER
          ESCANDER 2 November 2011 21: 07
          Well, what do you want to say with this link?
          What is your Tomsk sidekick Azamat (Russian, of course ...), a university teacher (who also writes about the “Valley of Pens”), reprinted the “great work” of VD Dotsenko - and now this is a parable in Yezitsi, is it?
          Flood Dotsenko is widely known for his other insanity (like Azamat, probably).
          I have lived in Tomsk for 5 years and have seen enough of these Azamats.
          By the way, is Professor Alperovich still alive?
        2. fellow misha
          fellow misha 2 November 2011 22: 03
          All this is blah-blah-blah of our contemporaries. The song "Varyag" was written almost immediately after the events, was written by an Austrian and published in a German newspaper, here is the attitude to those events of the contemporaries of the feat of the crew of the 1st rank armored cruiser of the 1st Pacific squadron of the Russian Navy "Varyag". And mind the contemporaries of the European spill.
  11. ballian
    ballian 2 November 2011 21: 32
    And here Azamat ?? I took a link known to me where the story with "Varyag" is described separately (for Dotsenko this is one of the chapters of the book). Calling Dotsenko a "senile" is strong.
      ESCANDER 2 November 2011 22: 09
      So this is not what I call, these are other historians.
    2. fellow misha
      fellow misha 2 November 2011 22: 32
      Now it’s clear what you’re reading, what stories you read, well then you get a 50% discount
  12. fellow misha
    fellow misha 2 November 2011 22: 27
    I dialed one in a search engine: Dotsenko - in Th issued

    The feat of the "Varyag" according to V.D. Dotsenko
    The site may threaten the security of your computer
    V.D. Dotsenko “Myths and legends of Russian maritime history”

    Perhaps it’s better you can’t imagine
    1. ballian
      ballian 3 November 2011 20: 20
      Well, in general, one could guess Wikipedia and read about the author -Доценко,_Виталий_Дмитриевич
      The author in maritime affairs and history knows, unlike you, the militant ignorant.
      1. ESCANDER
        ESCANDER 3 November 2011 20: 43
        Cool on Vika drove.
        Do you think we're basting cabbage soup?
        You do not shake Vick, then we can reach.
        Nobody begs merit, but His work is criticized not only for the "Varangian".
        1. ballian
          ballian 3 November 2011 23: 42
          It’s completely ignorant who carry something on the Internet and criticize it by reading a couple of books and imagining themselves an expert - and cho., We have freedom of speech, everyone can carry at least complete rubbish.
          1. cattle
            cattle 3 November 2011 23: 54
            It’s good to slurp with you .... Eat everything, leave nothing !!!!!
          2. ESCANDER
            ESCANDER 4 November 2011 06: 37
            I'm not talking about the ignorant Internet, but about his fellow military historians.
      2. flugarka226
        flugarka226 25 October 2012 05: 49
        Quote: ballian
        Author in Maritime and History

        All the more dangerous is his writing. Believe me, I also know a little about maritime affairs. During that time, he commanded a raid minesweeper.
  13. zavesa01
    zavesa01 3 November 2011 20: 56
    Balian and Local you represent naval artillery battle? Especially in the raid when the guns hit direct fire and you have nowhere to hide, when your corps as a target when the head gives out data for firing a squadron and then a volley follows and everything in you and their main hull ... not 80 mm. Can you imagine an explosion of a 250 mm shell stuffed with shimosa? Approximately this can be compared with the shooting at the wall of modern 30 mm machine guns. Almost no chances. You are not told about tactics and strategy, but about the courage of the common people. Can you introduce yourself there? Only after going through the like can one with such cynicism relate to this undoubted feat of ordinary sailors.
  14. ballian
    ballian 3 November 2011 21: 48
    I actually did not argue with this here, but I am amazed by people who do not want to know the details of what was there., And any attempt to understand the details of the event is interpreted as blackening.
  15. Novik
    Novik 28 November 2011 20: 27
    Wow, you've already made it to Varyag. Idolatry, myth, stupidity of the commander. Yes, gentlemen, you know the story frankly bad, although if you believe the Japanese sources (the winning side), then perhaps you are right. Here is only about the flagship cruiser "Naniva", the Japanese admiral Alas, Uriu songs are not composed, well, maybe by compatriots. And now let's try to define the very concept of the word feat, what is it? I think many will agree with me that a feat is self-sacrifice in the name of a goal. I think it is difficult for an average man to understand, but for some people in general not given, he is a philistine for that and an ordinary man that at any moment he can abandon this very goal, especially if it threatens his life. It's another matter a person who swore an oath of allegiance, so he cannot be fainthearted otherwise he is a traitor: before the Motherland, himself So do not bleat about the fact that this episode of the distant war is fiction and propaganda of tsarism. The battle took place (this is confirmed by everyone who was in Chemulpo at that time, and not only Russians or Japanese), then there was a place to be and a feat eki pages of "Varyag" and "Koreyets". And all take it as a FACT, as an indisputable truth, because there can be no other interpretation of events. And there is no need to put points 1,2,3 here ... What is called you do not control the process, because that you weren't there, because there was only ONE, only ONE other scenario. Here it is: to transfer the ships to the Japanese, and to surrender to the crews. Rationally? Perhaps yes, but can you be proud of it? Especially since it was just such an outcome. and the Japanese counted (the Japanese admiral hoped to present the "Varyag" as a gift to the emperor, they even stood at anchors, thinking that the Russians were going to surrender. This is confirmed by the Japanese themselves, their first signal was a signal for surrender. True, the anchor chains had to be urgently riveted - not on those ran into, before that they only fought with the Chinese and everything was much simpler and clearer there) So in conclusion I would like to note that the FEAT of the "Varyag" and "Koreyets" will forever remain a symbol of military valor, bravery and heroism of our sailors, whoever no matter what he wrote. As there in the song: NEVER SAY A STONE, OR A CROSS WHERE LIE, IN THE GLORY OF THE RUSSIAN FLAG, ONLY THE SEA WAVES WILL GLORATE IN AGES, THE HERO'S DEATH "VARYAGA"
    1. Denis
      Denis 28 November 2011 22: 09
      Quote: novik
      Here are just about the flagship cruiser "Naniwa", the Japanese admiral Uriu, the songs, alas, are not composed, well, maybe only by compatriots.

      this not so much does not belittle the feat, but the poems about "Varyag" seem to have been written by an Austrian
  16. Novik
    Novik 29 November 2011 20: 26
    Yes, the poems were written by a German or an Austrian. On the Sov website (located in Yandex in the music section) there is even an original version in German. Then our compatriots translated them and put them on our music, so the song appeared. wrote that already at that time it was clear to many that the crews accomplished a feat, since the citizens of other countries wrote poetry about it. And now for some reason homegrown historians are trying to convince me that this is propaganda. And I really don't like it when they try to rewrite history with their stupid fantasies . It was necessary, it was necessary .... you must first climb the sites, search engines, and even better books by different authors to read. And then it starts: "Korean" blow up and blow up in full steam. The squad is always better than a loner, and what speed in the winding fairway, if there, even in peacetime, the French managed to run aground their cruiser. And what speed, if upon arrival in the Far East "Varyag" was in the armed reserve most of the time, repair so that at the time of the battle the speed of the ship did not exceed 20uz, about the same the Japanese could give. And for some reason it is always considered that the "Varyag" is almost the best cruiser in the world had to go out to defeat the enemy squadron and to break through to Port Arthur, well, how simple it is. And the "Varyag" was not the best (subsequently all powers refused from ships of this type of 6000-ton armored reconnaissance cruisers), it was the first, in some way experimental, ship of a new series of Russians cruisers.
    1. Alf
      Alf 4 March 2012 22: 16
      About 20 knots. The Japanese Varyag raised and after repair, NOT CHANGING THE BOILERS, BROUGHT IT ON THE MEASURE MILES- result-22 NODES!
      1. Alf
        Alf 5 March 2012 22: 33
        The Varyag was initially put in a tactically losing situation, having a narrow fairway and a load in the form of a slow-moving Korean. At the time of launching, the Varyag was indeed one of the best ARMORED STUFF in the world. In the open sea, the Varyag also guaranteed to destroy any of the Japanese armored decks, having superiority in artillery (12 six-inch and 12 three-inch) and superior speed (23 knots). Also, the Varyag could withstand short-term fire contact with an armored cruiser, but, again, in the open sea. As for the Russian concept of a six-thousander cruiser, it is enough to look at the successful actions of Askold, Varyag's classmate. And about "all powers refused," the British also built similar cruisers (Powerfull type). When the Dreadnought was launched in England, other countries also stopped building classic battleships, and the same story happened with the destroyer class after the Russian Novik was commissioned in 1913.
  17. mvkot120669
    mvkot120669 11 January 2012 02: 55
    It is interesting that the main character of this event, Rudnev, was officially ignored by the officers meeting of the Russian Fleet (for a skillfully conducted battle), and it made Rudnev go so far that he resigned ..
  18. flugarka226
    flugarka226 25 October 2012 05: 37
    The Russian sailors rejected the proposal to surrender and lower the flags and entered into an unequal battle, which they lost. After the battle, "Korean" was blown up, "Varangian" flooded.
    The author is mistaken. The victory to a surface ship is counted only if the enemy’s ship was sunk in battle, or captured as a prize. The Japanese failed either, the Varangian was killed but not defeated. This is called - it was sunk by the crew after the battle due to heavy damage.