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Moroccan Navy may become the first customer of the Russian Amur-1650 submarines

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The King of Morocco, Mohammed VI, plans to visit Russia before the end of 2015 of the year to, among other things, sign a contract providing for the supply of an 1650-type Amur-677 submarine to the Royal Navy, reports "Military Industrial Courier" with reference to the American edition of the World Tribune.



The article notes that “negotiations on this account were conducted from 2013 of the year in several stages,” and the total value of the transaction will be about 300 million euros.

The Amur-1650 submarine, developed by specialists of the Central Design Bureau of Rubin marine technology, is equipped with modern radio-electronic weapons and a hydro-acoustic complex with a unique noise-finding antenna, which captures low-noise targets at long distances. In addition, it has the ability to launch rocket fire at land and sea targets (up to 6 missiles in a volley).

“The level of the acoustic field of the Amur-1650 submarine is several times lower than that of the 636 submarines, which today are considered the lowest noise in the world. The submarine is equipped with a new generation of electronic weapons, using the achievements of world radio electronics in recent years, ”the newspaper notes.

As part of the armament of the submarine - 18 missiles, mines or torpedoes. Her crew is 35 man. Amur-1650 can dive to depths up to 300 meters. Duration of autonomous navigation of a submarine is 45 days.
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  1. Moore
    Moore 18 August 2015 06: 41
    -6
    300 lyamy eirikami - this is probably good. That's just ...
    A question related to shipbuilding: in Russia, do some shipyards stand idle and glad to build something for some Moroccan monarch, or is it just politics in its purest form?
    Or is such an order stupidly more profitable?
    1. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 18 August 2015 06: 51
      +13
      Quote: Moore
      300 lyamy eirikami - this is probably good. That's just ...

      Wrong again? Why not remember Marshak?
      Whatever does
      He does everything wrong.
      It doesn't start over
      And it ends up anyhow.
      He’s building a house from the ceiling,
      Carries water with a sieve,
      The sun in the field catches a hat,
      The shadow from the walls is erased with a rag,
      He takes the door with him to the forest
      So that the thief doesn’t fit into him,
      And to the roof by the rope
      Pulls a brown cow
      To save a little
      Where the grass has grown.


      Now we whine that there is no work, then whine that it is too much ...
      Gotta get rid of the whining, uncle.
      1. Eugene-Eugene
        Eugene-Eugene 18 August 2015 07: 46
        +2
        Neither do you argue and discuss. The main problem of "Lada" - SU, which is why the series was almost removed (originally it was planned 20 by 2020, now 10/14, the remaining 6 have been replaced by "Varshavyanka" for the Black Sea Fleet). If the export of submarines is planned, then it has been solved. And this is good news.
        1. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 18 August 2015 08: 38
          +11
          Quote: Eugene-Eugene
          You talk about and discuss about that.

          How about that! Whining has become a Russian national trait. What is not a little contributed by the media, pouring negative on our citizens.
          1. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 18 August 2015 09: 01
            +1
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            How about that! Whining has become a Russian national trait.
            Well, such cheers-patriotic posts are, of course, present in any, absolutely, topic about the export of our weapons.
            1. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 18 August 2015 09: 34
              +1
              Quote: Stirbjorn
              Well, such cheers-patriotic posts are, of course, present in any, absolutely, topic about the export of our weapons.

              Did I say "hurray" somewhere? Or do you like nagging a lot?
      2. Moore
        Moore 18 August 2015 11: 45
        0
        Nanny, the question was versed in the planning of loading shipyards, and not for idiots, who all that does not fit under their cap is nagging.
        Do you have anything to say about loading shipyards? No? Quote then also A. Barto, like: "... I am seething with indignation and therefore rude ..."
        1. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 18 August 2015 16: 32
          0
          Quote: Moore
          On loading shipyards have something to say?

          I can say that in the USSR they built in Gorky at Sormovsky shipbuilding about which I had not heard conversations for a long time. wink

          And why does this address "uncle" revolt you? If I was mistaken, correct it, I will refer to "aunt". winked
    2. SAM 5
      SAM 5 18 August 2015 06: 56
      0
      Is it just politics in its purest form?
      Or is such an order stupidly more profitable?

      Giraffe is big, he knows better.
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 18 August 2015 08: 57
        +5
        Admiralty shipyards, very successfully and quickly, build boats for the Black Sea Fleet and, at the same time, export (Vietnam and soon Algeria). A childish question of some kind. Why not make money on export yet.
        1. kil 31
          kil 31 18 August 2015 09: 43
          +2
          Quote: Stirbjorn
          Admiralty shipyards, very successfully and quickly, build boats for the Black Sea Fleet and, at the same time, export (Vietnam and soon Algeria). A childish question of some kind. Why not make money on export yet.

          Well, against POLISARIO submarines are not needed. So Algeria got it. Funny at the same shipyard will order Algeria and Morocco.
        2. Moore
          Moore 18 August 2015 11: 58
          -1
          Quote: Stirbjorn
          Admiralty shipyards, very successfully and quickly, build boats for the Black Sea Fleet and, at the same time, export (Vietnam and soon Algeria). A childish question of some kind. Why not make money on export yet.

          Do you need boats only for the Black Sea Fleet?
          For what reasons did you plan only six boats — is it no longer necessary, or is the fact that shipyards are overloaded with foreign orders (yeah, making money from export)?
          Therefore, the question was versed in the planning of naval construction.
          About what is being built there and what to earn currency - well, the author of the children's question, as it were, is in the know himself.
          1. Denis_469
            Denis_469 18 August 2015 12: 36
            +1
            Quote: Moore
            the author of the children's question, as it were, is in the know.

            the author of the children's question does not understand the loading of plants. Since he does not know that just, by an amazing coincidence, it is not otherwise that we have laid down but not completed 1 submarine 677E. Which takes a slipway. And by a strange coincidence, Morocco needs just 1 project 677E submarine. Miracles, and only. Complete coincidences.
          2. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 18 August 2015 13: 04
            0
            They are needed for the Black Sea Fleet, because they are not there at all, except for "Alrosa", which only recently came out of repair. Therefore, a familiar and worked out on foreign orders, the Varshavyanka project was chosen. In the near future, for the rest of the fleets, there will be a more advanced Kalina project with VNEU, which is still being finalized. At the same time, another 2 Lada is being completed, which, as far as I understand, is a transitional version to Kalina. I don't see much point in more Varshavyankas if more modern Kalina (Lada) are on the way.
            And then, our defense industry also has a limited budget. Do not idle the shipyards later. For example, the concern of "Amber" in a neighboring topic.
          3. Vanya
            Vanya 18 August 2015 13: 07
            0
            we have at the moment, not counting the new in operation 10 plb 877 projects.
          4. g1v2
            g1v2 18 August 2015 13: 08
            0
            Varshavyanka ordered for the Black Sea Fleet, because we can build them very quickly. Krasnodar was built a little more than a year and a half - now it is already in trials. 6 submarines, plus Alrosa being modernized for the Black Sea Fleet, is enough for now. We are not planning to seriously fight with the United States yet, but for the other neighbors like the Turks, 7 submarines are enough. And the fleet’s budget is not rubber, but frigates, MRK, corvettes 22160 are planned for the Black Sea Fleet, and most likely sooner or later 20380. Plus boats. Plus import substitution.
            The main diesel submarine of our Navy was supposed to be Lada, but for a long time the developers could not finish it up to the declared performance characteristics. Power did not give out, there were a lot of questions regarding the filling. They wanted to refuse from it altogether, but then its developers still patched it to the state required by the terms of reference and the B-585 "St. Petersburg" became part of the permanent forces. After that, 2 more were laid. However, the project is still doubtful - there were too many troubles with it and it was not a fact that all the shortcomings were identified and eliminated. In addition, next-generation diesel-electric submarines are already being designed - Kalina and Lada may turn out to be just a transitional project - they will build some of them until the Kalin project is completed. As for the export. Well, the Admiralty shipyards will be freed next year, having completed the last 2 Varshavyanki for us and another 2 for Vietnam. However, after that they will begin to build 2 for Algeria. Yes, and it is necessary to upgrade the halibut for the Navy. Plus, it is still expected to bookmark 2-5 Lad for the Navy. However, there is definitely a place for another export submarine. Yes, and you need to expand the market. It’s also a service. Under capitalism, the main thing is not how much you can build, but how much you can sell. The market is at the heart of everything. Because of him, many wars began. Whoever won and conquered markets is economically stronger, the loser is poor. An example is Great Britain and Spain of the 18th and 19th centuries. One rose, the second died away.
  2. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 18 August 2015 06: 47
    -1
    Mohammed VI, King of Morocco, plans to visit Russia before the end of 2015 to, among other things, sign a contract providing for the delivery of a Amur-1650 submarine
    and the king will not wait in line until we secure his fleet?
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 18 August 2015 08: 03
      +4
      Nope, he also hung the Germans about the 212 project. And the French just recently for 470 million euros head FREMM in a terribly sophisticated stage set. And they also have Sigma with VPU - that is, also in a super-heavy version, with frigate classification.

      In general, Morocco and Algeria have an eternal confrontation with someone thicker. Therefore, if Amur does not come out to shove, then they will buy 212 for example, that's all. Morocco has a lot of money.

      Yes, I'm generally surprised to be terribly if the Moroccans will be the starting customer of this project. They are not so simple, they prefer to buy a proven and proven.
      1. Denis_469
        Denis_469 18 August 2015 10: 01
        +4
        212 will not buy. And Morocco is purchased not against Algeria, but against Spain. Which captured the islands from Morocco and does not return. Morocco already tried to return the islands 1 time, but the fleet was weak and the war did not start. Morocco is now pumping its fleet and preparing for war with Spain. Therefore, NATO is forbidden to sell boats in Morocco. Moroccans can be bred like suckers promising them supplies, but they will not really deliver anything.
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 18 August 2015 10: 53
          +4
          Well, the country of NATO France sold FREMM and even in the most powerful stage possible.
          Another NATO country sold 3 Wig Sigma - actually lightweight frigates already.
          The leading NATO country sold 24 F-16Block50 / 52 + in the appendage with AMRAM 7 and WAITS.
          Fourth NATO country sells brand new Spartans in Morocco.

          And this is all the very near future, the fleet so generally deliveries the main last 3-4 of the year.

          And let me remind you, when Greece, the NATO country and Turkey, the NATO country began to fight, all other NATO countries vied in vain to offer any weapon with delivery today or tomorrow from the availability. And on both sides, the main thing is to pay money wassat .
          1. Denis_469
            Denis_469 18 August 2015 11: 07
            +1
            They will be sold surface ships, but not NATO submarines. A surface ship is much easier to find and sink than a submarine. And to shoot down planes is also easier than to search and sink submarines.
            But submarines in NATO are forbidden to sell Morocco. Generally prohibited. I wrote about their situation on my website several years ago, after I wrote the Moroccans and started buying our boat. They fought their heads about NATO for 10 years trying to buy a German or French submarine, but no one sold them. And now yes - they can promise. So that Morocco does not buy in Russia, only then they will throw it with promises and they will not deliver the ordered boat from NATO. About the same as we were thrown with helicopter carriers in France.

            But Greece and Turkey did not begin to fight in NATO. The United States did not allow them to disassemble, so what you write is fantastic. This has not happened in this life.
  3. dima-fesko
    dima-fesko 18 August 2015 06: 50
    0
    Fuck ..... goat button accordion?
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 18 August 2015 08: 05
      +4
      Algeria already has a brood of submarines, while Morocco does not have one. The mess.
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 18 August 2015 08: 58
        +2
        A brood is two Varshavyanka in stock and two more, only in 2016 they will start building with us. hi
        1. Denis_469
          Denis_469 18 August 2015 10: 21
          +4
          The brood is 4 Warsaw and 1, which is still in operation as a training boat. And 633 more Warsaw ordered. When they arrive in Algeria there will already be 2 submarines, as 7 nobody is going to write off a training. Crews are trained on it and, if necessary, it is suitable and drowned transports.
          1. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 18 August 2015 11: 23
            0
            2 Varshavyanka and 2 old halibuts in 1988, I can not say anything about the training.
            1. Denis_469
              Denis_469 18 August 2015 11: 32
              0
              The training is also running and, in principle, combat-ready. Algeria has no problems with spare parts, because the old Warsaw can safely retreat another 20 years.
  4. roskot
    roskot 18 August 2015 07: 21
    +3
    The main thing is not to forget about your fleet.
  5. TVM - 75
    TVM - 75 18 August 2015 07: 30
    +5
    It does not interfere. If the shipyard is able to build decent ships, then it will not stand idle. And making money is profitable. This provides its own development and new orders.
  6. Temples
    Temples 18 August 2015 07: 34
    +3
    And of course it is necessary to convene the Council of Sofa Generals !!!!
    And to find out if he scored about our fleet ????
    laughing
    1. Temples
      Temples 18 August 2015 07: 56
      0
      I wanted to write "forgot" in the end it turned out "scored"
      So even more fun laughing
      Did he score on our fleet))))
  7. YaMZ-238
    YaMZ-238 18 August 2015 08: 56
    +2
    First you need to provide yourself with such excellent boats, and only then sell left and right ...
  8. Old26
    Old26 18 August 2015 09: 00
    +1
    Quote: YaMZ-238
    First you need to provide yourself with such excellent boats, and only then sell left and right ...

    We provide. Since 1995, one boat was built, and even then, it is not known for certain whether it passed the entire test cycle. Two more were mortgaged, though the second was already re-mortgaged with a different name. And it’s not known whether they will finish building at all
  9. Denis_469
    Denis_469 18 August 2015 09: 49
    +2
    It can’t, but it will. Because Western sanctions have banned the supply of submarines in Morocco. NATO is well aware that the war between Morocco and Spain is only a matter of time. Therefore, the supply of submarines from NATO countries to Morocco is prohibited. As expected many years ago, Morocco turned to Russia for a submarine. While one, because only 1 money is enough.
    We have already laid down 1 export pl of the project 677E - here it will be completed for Morocco.