The death of Kursk influenced the development of rescue services in the Russian Federation

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About what progress has been achieved in this direction over the past 15 years, and what remains to be done, in an interview with RIA News Andrei Chaplygin was told by Alexei Kayfadzhyan, General Director of Tetis Pro, which played a key role in updating the search and rescue services of the Russian fleet.



On Wednesday 15 marks the anniversary of the death of the submarine Kursk, which sank in the Barents Sea. In many ways, this tragedy forced the search and rescue service of the Russian Navy to begin upgrading rescue equipment and finding new measures to ensure the safety of submariners. Alexey Kayfajyan, CEO of Tethys Pro, who played a key role in updating the search and rescue, told in an interview with RIA Novosti correspondent Andrei Chaplygin about what progress had been achieved in this direction over the past 15 years. Russian fleet services.

The tragedy with Kursk undoubtedly changed a lot in the approach of the naval command to the preparation, equipment and organization of rescue units in the fleet. Tell me, how was this reflected in practice?


- First of all, I want to note that all over the world, catastrophes are always the impetus for the development of technology in ensuring rescue and safety. The tragedy of "Kursk", of course, seriously affected the further development of the search and rescue support of the fleet and the search and rescue services of Russia as a whole. This tragedy showed a certain lag in the technical means that existed in Russia at that time, from the constantly developing and updating rescue systems in the world. In this regard, based on the results of joint work of Russian and foreign rescuers, it was decided to purchase a number of basic modern samples of underwater technical equipment to provide rescue operations. In particular, in the UK, workers were acquired uninhabited underwater vehicles "Venom" and a whole line of modifications of the apparatus of the inspection class "Tiger" with different depths - on 1000, 600 and 300 meters. Various diving equipment was also purchased, including television complexes, communication stations and compressor installations for diving operations.

- And what role in this update was assigned to "Tethys"?

- At that time, Tethys acted as a kind of technical expert and intermediary between Rosoboronexport and foreign manufacturers of this equipment, since at that time we already had partnership relations with these suppliers. After these technical tools were acquired, we organized our own installation on ships of the Navy and commissioning with the development of relevant documentation for our seamen.

Is it possible to say that the effective search and rescue system of the Navy today has finally developed?


- It should be noted that the development of the means necessary for underwater work is not enough to create a search and rescue support system, it should be considered as a set of measures. We are talking about the presence of specialized carrier vessels, technical means, trained personnel, both in the rescue units of the Navy, and on the ships and submarines. In other words, the harmonization and efficiency of the system can only be talked about if there is an appropriate shipbuilding program, when creating various search and rescue tools, as well as developing and installing individual and collective rescue tools on the ships and submarines themselves. All these components must match each other, develop in parallel and in a complex.

- Now, when the Russian Navy is equipped with the necessary number of rescue equipment, what steps is Tethys Pro taking to provide the fleet with a wide range of Russian analogues of foreign underwater technical equipment?

- When making a decision on the purchase of modern equipment, the ideology of development and our tools and systems were laid. This task "Tethys Pro" set himself and enlisted the support of the Navy. At the moment, if we sum up these 15 years, we produce modern diving equipment on our squares, which is not inferior, and in some technical characteristics, and superior to imported analogues.

Having gained operating experience of foreign analogs and having understood their merits, we also produce underwater television complexes, diving communication stations, compressors to provide diving descents, various diving tools, including a remote-controlled uninhabited underwater vehicle, so far with working depth to 350 meters. All these tools are already mass-produced and accepted for supply, with the exception of the Marlin-350 submersible, which has successfully passed state tests and is planned to be accepted for supply in August-September of this year.



- And how many such devices are planned to be delivered to the Navy?

- Five vehicles are scheduled for delivery in 2016. In the draft state order for 2017, the purchase and installation of these devices in the interests of the Navy is also foreseen.

- Do you plan to create a “older brother” “Marlin” with a working depth of up to a thousand meters or more?

- We are currently conducting development work on the development, creation of a prototype and testing of the Marlin-1000 apparatus.

The planned completion date of the development work, that is, the creation of a prototype and relevant documentation, is the first quarter of 2016 of the year. In the 2016 year, we plan to conduct state tests in order to submit this device for acceptance to the supply of the Ministry of Defense. We also have an autonomous, uninhabited underwater vehicle with a depth of up to a thousand meters - the "Concept-M". It has already been developed, now it is being prepared for mass production. This is an autonomous search uninhabited device, the Russian equivalent of the Gavia apparatus, but it will be a completely domestic product. If we talk about remote-controlled vehicles, such as "Marlin", they are used mainly for technical work, for surveying and preparing for ship-raising and other underwater operations. Autonomous vehicles are used to search for objects lying on the ground, that is, sunken and emergency objects.



Currently, the Russian military-industrial complex more than ever is the issue of import substitution. Are such tasks for Tetis in terms of maintenance of already purchased foreign vehicles?

- Naturally, at the end of last year and at the beginning of this year, we encountered difficulties in maintaining the underwater equipment supplied earlier and the impossibility of delivering certain components in connection with the announcement of sanctions. Since we have been carrying out maintenance contracts for more than eight years and not two years, we have been constantly working on the possibility of using domestic components for these works. To the maximum extent possible, we use Russian-made components to carry out maintenance of this imported equipment due to the fact that we are already taking warranty obligations, and taking this responsibility, we extend this warranty period. In connection with the sanctions, we did a great job of finding alternative suppliers from countries that did not join the sanctions. What we cannot produce ourselves or find at Russian enterprises, we are still buying in the countries of Southeast Asia and China. Maintenance, of course, will be carried out, and operation of imported equipment in the amount of its service life will be provided. If suddenly for some reason it will be impossible to carry out maintenance, we will completely replace these hardware with our domestic ones.



Uninhabited underwater vehicles proved to be excellent in rescue work, and what are the prospects for their use in reconnaissance purposes or to provide mine defense?

- Uninhabited underwater vehicles, in my opinion, have a great prospect of using them for reconnaissance purposes and for ensuring mine defense due to the fact that these funds were initially created for work with potentially dangerous objects. Therefore, in order to ensure the mine support of the Navy, these devices should be one of the key technical means of work, and both remote-controlled and autonomous vehicles. The fact is that an autonomous device, in terms of the provision of mine protection, also makes it possible to secure the carrier vessel of this vehicle, since it does not have any hard connections with it, communication is carried out exclusively through the sonar channel or in the surface position over the radio channel. In fact, this is an autonomous uninhabited submarine in miniature.

Among the key requirements of the Navy to promising warships and submarines of the new generation is the integration of unmanned systems, including submarines. Does Tethys lead development in this direction?

- All over the world there are models for the use of autonomous uninhabited underwater vehicles for reconnaissance purposes. This, of course, requires an extensive management system and quite serious financial investments in order to integrate these devices into the intelligence system of the Navy or the intelligence of the Ministry of Defense. If we talk about the developments of "Tethys", then we carried out work on the possibility of integrating an autonomous, uninhabited submersible into the technical equipment of the submarine. But for the time being these were exclusively technical proposals, since the funds of only our company to seriously address this issue on their own initiative are not enough.

- Who do you think should be involved in this work?

- In my opinion, this is the subject of serious complex work in military research institutions in order to develop both a model of use and requirements for these autonomous, uninhabited underwater vehicles. It is imperative to involve the designers of ships and submarines, as well as industry, in order to carry out these works so that impracticable requirements for any means are not formed. It is necessary to proceed from the requirements of the customer, and from the capabilities of the contractor. Only together with military science, design bureaus and shipyards, manufacturers of underwater vehicles, such as, for example, Tethys Pro, can carry out this work subject to state funding.

- Is Tethys Pro products in demand abroad or do you work exclusively on the Russian market?

- First of all, we work, of course, on the Russian market, since most of the range of technical equipment produced by us is supplied for the ministries and departments of Russia: the Navy, the Emergencies Ministry, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Federal Security Service and others. There are also such large corporate clients as Transneft and Gazprom, but we are nevertheless open to supply our equipment for export due to the fact that our country did not extend retaliatory sanctions to the nomenclature related to search and rescue facilities, because it is impossible and wrong to engage in rescue on the state and national principle. When a catastrophe occurs, this is a common thing, and, in my opinion, implies the unification of all search and rescue means and forces to save a person or prevent a catastrophe.

If we talk about the export of our company's products, this year two diving complexes were delivered to Germany to the Nordic Yards shipyard, where they were installed on multi-purpose rescue vessels under construction there. Also now "Tethys Pro" produces a search and rescue complex for installation on ships of the Navy of Kazakhstan, with the first complex in the series being planned for installation this year. Diving equipment and underwater equipment for rescue services of Belarus and Uzbekistan are constantly being supplied.

It is worth noting that there is a need for our products, confirmed through Rosoboronexport, in Egypt and India, but so far these projects are under discussion and pre-contract preparation.
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  1. +11
    15 August 2015 05: 51
    What is the article about? By the name of the rescue service. And in terms of content about intelligence. Either the author "timed" to the sinking of the "Kursk", or ...
    Unmanned vehicles perform their tasks. And these tasks are of paramount importance. Like "cleaning" our communication systems from all kinds of foreign insects, cleaning the bottom from all kinds of "fish" such as "flounder", etc.
    How about rescuing submarine crews? No way. There are surface ships, planes, and divers. And if the excitement is 5-6 points, as was the case with the rescue of "Komsomolets"? The whole service has become ...
    1. +2
      15 August 2015 11: 34
      Don’t worry so much ... This article is not about what the title says. How much I follow VO publications is the fourth time ... They write the same thing under different names, the minimum changes. Photos do not change at all. This is a banal advertisement. Moreover, the equipment is not of Russian design. It would be better to write about the devices released for the SSA scientists (SANPA) in the 90s at the Far Eastern Institute of the Ocean and the Sea (it was then called that) and much more.
      There is a little about their activities http://www.imtp.febras.ru/razrabotki.html
      Crossed in the 96th or 97th (I don’t remember already) in the Amur Bay during acceptance tests with a familiar yachtsman from the institute. He then could not break out on the Nevelsky Cup because of them.
      1. 0
        15 August 2015 20: 28
        Quote: 17085
        Don’t worry you so ...

        sorry ... without reading the set minus ... I will correct ... but you are right at 110% .... Respect
    2. 0
      15 August 2015 16: 08
      How many times this advertisement is published on "VO" and what is the point?
      1. +1
        15 August 2015 17: 08
        The meaning ... I don’t know, probably to think that Russia before their appearance did not have fully autonomous and "purely" Russian (Soviet) vehicles capable of diving to 300, 600 and 1000 meters? And what for this you just need to load with orders from Teledyne and Makariney?
  2. +1
    15 August 2015 07: 01
    - The tragedy with the Kursk undoubtedly changed a lot in the approach of the naval command to training, equipping and organizing rescue units in the fleet.


    To our great regret, it’s so that until the fried rooster pecks ...
    And behind this are human sacrifices.

    God bless the souls of the dead and forgive them sins, free and involuntary!
    1. 0
      15 August 2015 19: 00
      Quote: aszzz888
      To our great regret, it’s so that until the fried rooster pecks ...

      Pecked before "Kursk", pecked after.
      Unfortunately, the realities of the sea are such that it is impossible to calculate everything and everywhere.
      In the classroom in Severodvinsk, the teachers taught us how to leave the submarine, talked about the rescue ships "Alupka" and "Alushta" with bells for evacuation through the ASL.
      A year before the tragedy, we considered ourselves invulnerable, but !!!
      We’ll leave the submarine and remember the fishermen drowning so that this news has already soaped our eyes, everything has been frayed there ten times in terms of security, the ships will not be released into the sea without all kinds of inspections of the equipment and crew, but they are still there.
      In the winter of 2008, MIS refused my storm on my boat, we almost threw us out onto the rocks in the Norwegian fjords, and in winter in winter the watch missed the fire in the exhaust manifold, the walls of the pipe burned out and torch surged into the MCO, and even experienced ones rushed to reserve seats on the boat. Unfortunately, not everything always ends beautifully, and this, alas, is a feature of the work of sailors.
    2. 0
      16 August 2015 01: 03
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWxPGmHi-qg&feature=youtu.be
  3. +4
    15 August 2015 07: 33
    Let the question be, what is the first catastrophe? Second, the author will not tell you where the means of salvation went. Or it is not correct to mention that they were destroyed with the coming to power of the Democrats. It is possible and specifically, if anyone wishes, can read it. And finally, if the Supreme believes that warships are drowning, but not dying, then there are no prospects.
    1. +7
      15 August 2015 09: 40
      Quote: fomkin
      And finally, if the Supreme believes that warships are drowning, but not dying, then there are no prospects.

      No matter how I belong to the Supreme, Kursk, however, drowned. They die in battle and battle, and not like Kursk. And people there unfortunately (forgive me this word) did not die but died. No air. Slow. Painfully. All one hundred and eighteen. Even when it became clear that a miracle would not happen, many still hoped for this very miracle.
      A Russian soldier is always ready to die for his homeland. For the ideals. But after all, these one hundred and eighteen people were not going to die at all. Do not fight with anyone. They just got into trouble. Scary and ridiculous. And what did the country do for them to save? What is doing now so that such tragedies do not happen again? After all, 15 years have passed.
      This article probably should show how much is being done for this?
      Hmm. "Peacocks, you say?" ...
      1. +2
        15 August 2015 10: 15
        Full article ........! During the rescue operation, the AU almost lost it - a miracle. They cannot moor to the stern (OY) coaming, firstly, the angle, and secondly, there is simply no place for mooring (the tail unit interferes) , and all sorts of stories of journalists about the crack is nonsense. Separate thanks to OKBM "Afrikantov" and their izdeliyu. AZ of two boards and their systems worked for 5 +, but of course not at such a wild price.
  4. +1
    15 August 2015 10: 47
    And for that it was necessary for the Kursk to sink and kill the entire crew? You can't imagine more original.
  5. +3
    15 August 2015 10: 53
    Article - custom PR.
    In addition to imported remote-controlled "toys", nothing has appeared in 15 years.
    Show me a rescue ship with a seaworthiness of 9-10 points and a speed of under 40 ... - no? Well, and there is no "rescue" service.
  6. +2
    15 August 2015 11: 04
    Quote: Schulz
    And what did the country do for them to save? What is doing now so that such tragedies do not happen again? After all, 15 years have passed.

    Nothing, left counterparties, crazy contracts, stupid tenders.
    USC refuses the services of the Nerpa shipyard - yes, first we will suck everything out, and then the soup with the cat (((, after the to / and the ends cannot be found, sad.
    Went the second month of non-payment of salaries.
  7. AUL
    +2
    15 August 2015 11: 31
    I will express my thought, somewhat out of stream of the issue under discussion.
    As far as I know, None of the rescue operations to rescue the crew from the emergency submarine was successful. Not one in the whole world! Correct me if I am wrong, but it was such information that was voiced in those tragic days. Therefore, I believe that in order to reduce the number of such tragedies, it is necessary, first of all, to improve our own means of self-rescue for submariners - pop-up rescue capsules, fire extinguishing systems, water pumping, etc. And, of course, to improve the quality of L / C training to fight for ship survivability, and not just teach how to get the patch in the same place, free from pipelines and cables.
    Of course, the rescue service is an absolutely necessary thing, and it needs modern equipment, but in saving the lives of sailors from a sunken submarine, all this is ineffective.
    1. +1
      15 August 2015 12: 17
      Quote from AUL
      None of the rescue operations to rescue the crew from the emergency submarine was successful. Not one in the whole world! Correct me if I am wrong, but it was such information that was voiced in those tragic days.


      the first thing that came to mind was the crew of the American submarine "Squalus". Saved at full strength. If I wish, I can also recall
      1. +1
        15 August 2015 12: 49
        Quote: Delta
        Saved at full strength.


        to blame - there were those who died. But the fact of salvation from 73 meters remains. And there are enough examples of rescue operations from submarines. It is the hands of rescuers. The first dates back to 1911 (U-3 submarine). This also includes our M-351 (57 year).
        1. AUL
          0
          15 August 2015 16: 26
          I will not argue, perhaps it is. But in those tense days, when a question was asked to one of the sailors with big stars who spoke on this topic - were there successful operations in similar situations in world practice - he answered "no." It shocked me then, I remember it well. But, in any case, if there were successful operations, then these are isolated cases. Unfortunately...
  8. +5
    15 August 2015 12: 53
    It is a pity that those who cut the Savior service in the 90s will not be responsible for Kursk
  9. +1
    15 August 2015 13: 11
    The conclusion that since not one operation to rescue the crew of submarines was successfully carried out, means "first of all, to improve the submariners' own means of self-rescue." I think wrong!
    Submarine crew rescue service SHOULD BE the most efficient and reliable !!!
    Under ANY conditions, PEOPLE must be saved!
    Submarine crews should not feel like suicide bombers. The time is different now. And such cruel rules "perish yourself and help the boat out" must be passed forever. People locked in compartments must have all the necessary means to get help from the rescue service in time.
    As for the DEATH, (and did not sink !!!) "Kursk", it was not a torpedo that killed the crew, but the incompetence and indifference of our drivers. These long minutes, hours and days cannot be erased from memory by any "conclusions of representative commissions."
  10. +1
    15 August 2015 13: 12
    Why are the site generals the first to speak out? I didn't even have time to read the article, but there are already comets from the "generals", although I only updated the page.
  11. -1
    15 August 2015 13: 14
    What do people do, work - not? I'm on vacation, how to get a general on the site?
  12. +1
    15 August 2015 13: 19
    And I didn’t understand what kind of flag I had! With such definitely not registered!
  13. +1
    15 August 2015 13: 49
    The main thing is that without coping and screaming, we begin to restore the fact that the hunchbacks and Alkanavts collapsed. Great article. I need to understand everything.
  14. +1
    15 August 2015 15: 13
    The whole problem is that there was an explosion of the peroxide torpedo in the 4 torpedo tube, then the second explosion was the detonation of the torpedoes that were in the torpedo compartment when the water came in and the torpedo batteries were activated. After the first explosion, everyone in the torpedo compartment died and were disabled in the second command. After the second one, 23 people survived, of which three officers - who were able to shut off the reactor and moved to the 9 compartment. When trying to start the air regenerators, water hit the plate and, as a result, a fire. The bodies of three officers were severely burned, the rest were suffocated by carbon monoxide. The second explosion was so powerful that nothing could have survived in the 5 radius. The guys in the 9 compartment were alive for 4-5 hours after the second explosion, which was established by the process of moving food in the gastric tract. There was also a suicide note with a list of personnel who had transferred in 9 compartment. The rescue vehicles had old batteries with an 1.5 resource of an hour of work, which was enough to dive, moreover, due to strong sea excitement, one of them was crashed onto the side of the ship. It was possible to touch on because of damage to the coaming area. But it was all later that the guys suffocated. Even after raising the boat inside the 9 compartment, the MPC exceeded the carbon monoxide threshold by a factor of 1000. Eternal glory to the children and eternal memory.
    PS. A good film was released on the star recently about Kursk
    1. 0
      15 August 2015 20: 16
      Coaming-site was ideally, see my comments above, or in a personal. "Kursk" led from Roslyakovo to Snezhnogorsk, then demont.IM CPS and unloading of both sides.
      Siberiya if not in the topic do not fucking sick. The devices themselves went into emergency jamming mode. The power plant is located in a completely different compartment. After a fire in the 9th I’ll be silent, there was a panic, there were fatal errors.
  15. 0
    15 August 2015 16: 05
    My personal opinion is that the Kursk was sunk, that's why they were dragging out time with the rescue, and many other factors! I think they could have saved, remember at least the MIR underwater vehicles that descended to the Titanic. Most of all I do not like it when they start throwing show-offs like "Only we have such a device and nowhere else in the world", so why the fuck .. you didn't use it to rescue sailors !!!
  16. +2
    15 August 2015 18: 17
    They've been lying for 15 years already, they wouldn’t have dispersed the old rescue service, they wouldn’t have cut, written off or scrapped salvage ships; nothing like this would have happened. There was an excellent rescue service with modern ships, equipment, technology, and it could be used for salvage by more than 200 meters of depth. And they were not needed, but personally, in my opinion, it’s just another case of betrayal of the motherland, because then they said when the dispersed submarines did not drown.
  17. +4
    15 August 2015 18: 31
    I had a chance to participate in two operations to rescue the crews of sunken submarines and their subsequent rise to the surface - these are S-178 (October 1981, Peter the Great Bay, 33 meters deep) and K-429 (June 1983, Bolshaya Sarannaya Bay, Kamchatka Peninsula , depth 41 meters). Unfortunately, in both cases, the loss of people was not without, but the living were saved, the boats were raised. I had a chance to participate in an attempt to provide assistance to the North Korean submarine of project 633 that sank in the Yellow Sea at a depth of 140 meters. Then, with a storm of more than 5 points, we launched a Project 1837K rescue underwater vehicle. But, having examined the submarine, he found only a cut hole in the strong hull, and the local "aborigines" admitted that the submarine sank seven days ago. So there were no more living ones. Then the submarine was examined by divers and it was already going to lift, But, the command came to put it aside. It was! They could, you know.
    The article is of course advertising. But, they say, advertising is the engine of progress! Another thing is sad. The sad thing is that 15 years have passed since the Kursk, and there is still no one to save the submariners. Thank God the new Rescuer "I. Belousov" will soon join the Fleet. But, only one.
  18. +3
    15 August 2015 19: 51
    Crooks, these "Tethys Pro" and crooks! Shoigu recently canceled the contract with the Tethys PRO company for the supply of the Aquanaut training complex. Here's an interesting article about them:
    http://vpk.name/news/138313_spasenie_spasatelya.html
    suppliers like Tethys PRO gained an interesting know-how: how to make purchased foreign equipment domestic, serial and adopted by the Russian Navy (which would ensure further contracts). There is nothing complicated: a sample of foreign equipment is purchased, an authorized dealer company receives permission from a real Western manufacturer to sell equipment in Russia (for example, Tetis PRO - the official Russian dealer of the Scottish company Dayveks). Then, a document called “Technical Specifications” is issued for this sample of foreign equipment, in which the name of the product is slightly changed; or its components are slightly modified. Western technology modified in this way is assigned decimal numbers. In Russia there is a unified system of design documentation (ESKD). According to this system, each device under development is assigned a decimal number, which indicates that this particular company, whose numbers are assigned, is the developer of a product manufactured according to the design and technical documentation, meaning that now the company is not a supplier, but a developer and manufacturer of these products. According to the test results, this "serial" and "domestic" products are included in the procurement plan for the needs of the fleet.

    What did Serdyukov’s decision in practical terms really mean? It's simple: one legal developer of the GVK-450 was replaced (Lazurit conducted work in full accordance with Russian legislation, strictly regulating all stages of the creation of military equipment) with another, as one might assume, underground. Under the guise of supplying a defunct “foreign serial GVK-450”, Tetis PRO purchased disparate parts of a standardized western deep-sea diving complex, which in its technical specifications did not meet the Igor Belousov project. In order to “tie” this equipment to the vessel, the chief designer of the Almaz design bureau vessel (with the complicity of Tethys PRO, Admiralty Shipyards and specialized military research institutes) was forced to conduct a new hidden and very expensive ROC on its own and at its own expense. That is, in fact, to create a new GVK project with poor performance. And also - to seriously change directly the design of the ship "Igor Belousov" (also not a fact, which is for the better).
    Only Tethys PRO won from this fuss, which had long gone beyond the law. This contract was the largest in the history of the company. I got such a contract - I have no doubt about that - the former head of the Development and Organization of Orders of the Navy of the Russian Federation, Yuri Gorev, who was employed after his dismissal in 2010 from the fleet to Tetis PRO. It was he who oversaw the construction of Igor Belousov when he served in the navy. He continued to do this in retirement.
  19. +3
    15 August 2015 21: 11
    Quote: Stas157
    Crooks, these "Tethys Pro" and crooks! Shoigu recently canceled the contract with the Tethys PRO company for the supply of the Aquanaut training complex. Here's an interesting article about them:
    http://vpk.name/news/138313_spasenie_spasatelya.html

    Dear Stas157! If you show me at least one really honest businessman from the industry, then I will erect a bronze monument to him for my modest means! After all, if we strictly talk about a serial domestic GVK, then in modern Russian conditions it is simply not possible. You know, I am aware of this whole story and I can say that Lazurit's only finished domestic products for GVK-450 were pressure chambers. But, even glass for the windows for them had to be imported from abroad, as, in fact, all the component parts of the product complex. Thus, I see no fundamental difference. However, I see the main thing - the Rescuer is on sea trials! This means that it will soon be included in the Navy. As for the training complex "Akvanavt", both it and the training vessel with the GVK-100 on board are elements of the technological chain for preparing and carrying out diving operations using the saturated diving method. If we go out to the seas on diving descents by the method of saturated dives, then both should be working properly. And it doesn't matter at all who will supply them to the Fleet.
  20. +3
    16 August 2015 01: 14
    Quote: watermark
    If you show me at least one really honest entrepreneur from industry, then for my modest means I will put him a bronze monument!

    Money for the monuments is not enough!)) Yes, you look around! Any high-quality and not expensive things are made by honest entrepreneurs. Take at least delicious bread producers! I am sure that in each city there are several of them at once. Well, the site http://www.sdelanounas.ru/ to help you.
    Quote: watermark
    You know, I am aware of this whole story and I can say that Lazurit's only finished domestic products for GVK-450 were pressure chambers.

    So, because under Serdyukov and his accomplices, one legal developer of GVK-450 Lazurit was replaced by another, Tethys PRO! If funding remained, then Lazurit would have everything ready. And now, in connection with the sanctions, the Tethys missile defense system is covered with a basin!
    Quote: watermark
    And it’s absolutely not important who will deliver them to the Navy.

    How not important ?! And, if the war, and we buy weapons from a potential enemy! Putin, that out of lack of intelligence he ordered all the equipment for the army and for space to be produced by himself? Following your logic, if our example of the PAK FA is not yet ready, then we must push it in and ask the Americans for the F-35! After all, "it is absolutely not important who will supply them to the Fleet"!
  21. 0
    16 August 2015 12: 24
    On the topic of "Kursk" and the state of the ACC fleet in 2012, there was an interesting article "Sailors from the nuclear submarine" Kursk "could have been saved" http://flb.ru/info/51925.html, I don't know if this link works now, but the article interesting, conversation of a journalist with an officer of the ACC (emergency rescue service) of the Federation Council

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