Military Prosecutor of Ukraine: 8 of Thousands of Ukrainian Security Services Have Passed to the Side of the Militias

Anatoly Matios, the military prosecutor of Ukraine, said during the briefing that 8 thousands of Ukrainian security officials had switched to the militia, RIA reports “News».

According to him, the list of prosecutors got five thousand law enforcement officers, as well as about three thousand soldiers who "went over to the side of the enemy." Matios stressed that all of them will be brought to criminal liability.

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[Abbra]

I can’t judge whether this is so or not, but the fact that this statement is one of the wise ways to hide losses is for sure ... There is no person - there is no problem. Gone, however ...

[herruvim]

For Ukraine, good news on TV remained only in advertising.

[Telakh]

Such news reports are "pleasing".
When did you switch?
For how long?
A momentary sensation, not information. More questions than answers. Magazine.

[djqnbdjqnb]

Quote: Telakh

A momentary sensation, not information. More questions than answers. Magazine.

I’m messing around publishing for my own benefit. And here - a frank recognition of the insecurity of their own army, which the West would not like very much.
They will say: "How can we give you heavy weapons if your soldiers can run across with it to the militia?" No, this is a forced confession, although, perhaps, an attempt to hide large losses.

[Telakh]

Yes, it’s not an annoying fact, but the way it is presented. They didn’t say anything new, but questions appeared in darkness. And then we did not know that the fighters are moving to the Armed Forces of Ukraine or are fleeing to Russia?

Similarly, it can be said that “500 billion hryvnias were stolen in Ukraine” without giving any details.
Who! When? Where? For what period? Government or business? From the budget or from the private sector? This is a good example of how it is NOT NECESSARY to publish news, and how to powder your brains, creating the emotional background that your customer needs.

[Revolver]

Yes, most likely lied. However, what to take from them since the highest legislative body is called ASU?
Now essentially a lie. They put it only in Ilovaisk and Debaltseve unmeasured, and only a few dozen are recognized as losses. Where did the rest go? As an option - we switched to separators. For such, respectively, families do not have to pay. And even if they later find a corpse, they will say that he was already killed in the service of the Separs.
As the former first secretary of the Dnepropetrovsk regional committee of the CPSU, later general secretary, dear comrade Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev said, "The economy must be economical".

[Yuri from Volgograd]

Most likely the truth is not complete for the simple reason - the farther into the forest, the more firewood.
Here, and so much inconvenient was revealed, and if with details Hitler’s kaput at all.
In general, don’t call the enemies terrorists / separatists, but a civil war will fall in love.

[zanoza]

This message of the prosecutor is addressed, intermittently, to his population. "Leave me alone! Your relatives did not die or disappear, but went over to the enemy! Get out, or we will put you in prison for aiding."
How much has really passed - this is known in the DPR and LPR, which they periodically report. Nobody will shine defectors - families can suffer.

[g1v2]

Well, the fact that a significant part of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Donetsk and Lugansk regions refused to leave the Donbass and remained to serve in the power structures of the republics is not new. Golden Eagles again. Part of Donetsk SBU and so on. Tch in 5 thousand it is quite possible to believe. Most likely, most of them also work in the police, and not at the front. 3 thousand military personnel is also quite a possible figure. As far as I remember, in Sparta there used to be 2 former paratroopers from the 95th brigade, Strelkov fought a letekha from the 25th brigade of the Airborne Forces and so on. During the Debaltsev operation, under the Red Plowman, 50 soldiers with their infantry fighting vehicles went over to the side and helped to take the Np. Near Donetsk, six months ago, several dozen fighters of one of the terbats also crossed. Tch can get 3 thousand.

[takto.onotak]

perhaps a complex question, and both ...

[Vadym.o]

and where did you get that weapons will be given to traitors? And even if to traitors, how?

[Vadym.o]

for all time since February 2014. Is this something changing? Mostly they are Crimean.

[Vadym.o]

for all time since February 2014. Is this something changing? Mostly they are Crimean.

[shultc]

And this is just the beginning! Soon mobilized immediately from the march will be transferred to the army of New Russia.

Matios stressed that all of them will be prosecuted.

And the juntons will be brought to justice, led by Waltzman and Turchinov.

[GRAMARI111]

Quote: herruvim

For Ukraine, good news on TV remained only in advertising.

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But what about the medals?

[53-Sciborskiy]

Soon in the Armed Forces of Ukraine will remain on the maidanutnye, true Bandera and mercenaries.

[Good_Taxist]

This is such a form of Utilization ((((

[Andrea]

The news is not news at all. The news is that the prosecutor blabbed out. Either he ate enough mushrooms, or the resignation looms. And by and large, who can judge them? Have they changed the people? No.
To the government? Well, this is if they gave the oath, which is doubtful.

[GRAY]

Quote: Good_Taxist

This is such a form of Utilization ((((

I also thought that the deceased were being copied. Very convenient: burned in a crematorium and mustache - switched to the side of the militia.

[WKS]

Quote: GRAY

Quote: Good_Taxist

This is such a form of Utilization ((((

I also thought that the deceased were being copied. Very convenient: burned in a crematorium and mustache - switched to the side of the militia.

And I forgot my cell phone on the table in the reception room of the crematorium.

[Vend]

Quote: Abbra

I can’t judge whether this is so or not, but the fact that this statement is one of the wise ways to hide losses is for sure ... There is no person - there is no problem. Gone, however ...

Maybe you are right. But I would like to believe that this is still true. After all, the security forces were already on the side of the LPR, when they realized that they were fighting against their citizens. Wait and see

[razzhivin]

one of the tricky ways to hide losses

I want to think that they’ve switched over ... it’s painful for the Ukrainian propaganda machine to hit me hard ...

[Grandfather bear]

wise ways to hide losses - for sure ..

Moreover, all those who "switched" for a long time "do not write or call" home. Are the mobiles disabled? Ali cho?
And the mobile crematoria that the militia intercepted? And what about the "transplantologists" in Benin's cars?
From that!

[as150505]

Good news. He doesn’t put everyone in jail. And I think that there will be more people going over to the militia side while senility grows stronger in Ukraine

[Tor5]

Even wonderful ones! I wonder how they will be attracted? And the fact that the higher ranks are already announcing the transfer of such a large number is worth a lot. Not everything is going smoothly "in the Danish kingdom!"

[Sashka]

What kind of militia ?! You clearly said "terrorists" !!!!! 8000 people became "terrorists" ... ISIS doesn't even grow like that!

[ALEA IACTA EST]

will be held criminally liable

Something tells me that in the end they will attract just those who have not crossed.

[kil 31]

Quote: ALEA IACTA EST

will be held criminally liable

Something tells me that in the end they will attract just those who have not crossed.

+ Sadi have not yet fled

[fox21h]

The statement of Ukrainian officials should be treated with great skepticism, I do not perceive them as information at all, it's just an exhaust.
As the ancients said, war is the art of deception, here Ukrainian officials are unparalleled, Goebels (yes, especially with a small letter) nervously smokes on hemp.

[Meh-forester]

According to him, the list of prosecutors got five thousand law enforcement officers, as well as about three thousand soldiers who "went over to the side of the enemy." Matios stressed that all of them will be brought to criminal liability.

So let them try to say after that that they are "exactly fulfilling the Minsk agreements." There, it is clearly spelled out, the absence of criminal prosecution and amnesty.

Provide pardon and amnesty by enacting a law prohibiting the prosecution and punishment of persons in connection with events that took place in certain regions of Donetsk and Lugansk regions of Ukraine.

РИА Новости http://ria.ru/world/20150212/1047311428.html#ixzz3Hlx0x1bo

[Mikhail m]

Law enforcers are almost twice as likely to figure out which side is right.

[sl22277]

Mostly they are lawyers, the status obliges us to understand such things.

[Penetrator]

five thousand law enforcement officers, as well as about three thousand military men, who “went over to the side of the enemy,” were on the list of prosecutors.

About five thousand policemen, let's say, is relatively plausible. But three thousand servicemen is a big question. It looks like the junta has found another way to write off combat losses. Not "missing", but "a deserter who went over to the side of the enemy." No payments to relatives, on the contrary, are recognized as "members of the family of a traitor to the motherland" with all the consequences. From these it will become ...

[sl22277]

If this is true, then I am happy for the "Mass". Call your people "enemy" just out of despair! (8 thousand Enemies of Dill. And "Punishers-Friends" ...?!)

[samarin1969]

"Free Army of Ukraine" ... time to bomb "Right ISIS"!

[olimpiada15]

"Matios stressed that they will all be prosecuted" - and how many from the list of dead souls who passed over?
If the remains in Donbasset then went over to the side of the enemy, it’s cleverly invented, you won’t even dig in. What can you imagine, just not to pay compensation to the families of the victims.

[Tatarus]

And with each battle there will be more such "defectors". Losses written off and okay. And in the rear of their family and without money for the death of a soldier and in the status of a family member of an enemy of the people. That's because the creatures are cheap.

[rotmistr60]

8 thousand Ukrainian security officials went over to the militia side

Only this one figure already speaks of how the Kiev leadership has plagued its population and rejects it by waging a war against its people.

[Oman 47]

Crested crested screeders.

[Egoza]

Well, they promise the seventh mobilization, and the eighth, and ninth ... and each time higher, the indicated figure will increase and increase.

[andrei332809]

I'm afraid that he hides the loss in this way
"no losses" Tymchuk

[tolyasik0577]

There is a very positive point in this information - 8000 military personnel who went over to the side of the militia can only testify to the criminal actions of the junta against its citizens in Donbass. Otherwise, for what reasons do the military voluntarily go over to the side of the "terrorists", only if the "Terrorists" are not "Terrorists" at all?

[roskot]

Front behind enemy lines. These 8 thousand are Putin’s defenders. A new series from Dill.

[gladysheff2010]

Patience, friends, patience! And as Alla Borisovna sang: "... or it will still be oh-oh-oh!"

[vladimirw]

you will soon be attracted

[mamont5]

Quote: Abbra

I can’t judge whether this is so or not, but the fact that this statement is one of the wise ways to hide losses is for sure ... There is no person - there is no problem. Gone, however ...

Quite right, the Crimean security forces and the Donetsk ones, as well as the dead, along with the "prisoners" and "missing b / v" are counted here.

[Don_Pedro]

Or else it will be ... Normal people serve in the Armed Forces of New Russia, because she defends her people, her land and her faith. And all human husk is gathered in the Aglitsky legion, destroying its people in the Donbass. For the Southeast, they are punitive enemy gangs.

[Horst78]

Matios stressed that all of them will be prosecuted.

But is he not afraid that he himself will get into the jail of New Russia?

[marlin1203]

Well, I didn’t say in what form such a number of security officials switched ... Statistics is a tricky thing. And if you consciously changed sides, and even actively serve, then this is great news. It is strange that he was generally allowed to voice this.

[razzhivin]

I think this is not the final ...

people in the Armed Forces of Ukraine should at least come to their senses, having at least slightly preserved their conscience and the concept of honor and seen everything that the Nazis do ...

[slizhov]

Soon all HEALTHY UKRAINE will go over to the side of HEALTHY SENSE, PEACE AND GOOD!

[razzhivin]

all of them will be prosecuted.

hands are short!

but the fact that "every revolution eventually devours its" heroes "is a fact (!)

and this time is already approaching a little ...

[Yun Klob]

Yeah. Missing, then 8 thousand. Clear. By the way, nobody pulled a tongue.
Durak is such a mind.

[GELEZNII_KAPUT]

quarter prosecutors, for such an Old!

[Don_Pedro]

Armed Forces Ruins are not thieves in the style of Popandopulo from the film "Wedding in the Robin" on armored tombs long written off in civilized countries. The ruinous air defense warriors do not fool from boozing to such an extent that they have a ground-to-air missile during spontaneous work decided to fly spontaneously without meeting, fortunately, this time in the sky, neither a Russian nor a Malaysian civilian airliner. The holy matter is maintenance work, an alcohol can be saved ...
And this is their top cap. What a pop and such a parish!

[sv68]

first read "military protoukr"! then I understood, just a military Ukrainian.

[sv68]

first read "military protoukr"! then I understood, just a military Ukrainian.

[sgr291158]

I would like to believe in it, but something else nowhere else such infa slipped.

[bmv04636]

Now it’s clear what 9 thousand pigs said.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Abbra

I can’t judge whether this is so or not, but the fact that this statement is one of the wise ways to hide losses is for sure ... There is no person - there is no problem. Gone, however ...

Most likely you have revealed Ukrop's most classified "military secret".
They probably riveted the list of "deserters" at the request of the relatives of their "missing" sons looking for the following:
a - do not make payments to relatives,
b - shut up the mouth of relatives, accusing the sons of state treason, and thereby stop the spread of panic among the population due to numerous losses.

[Uruska]

And who wants to fight against their own people? Who needs this civil war. We must strive for peace. Look for ways to interact, and not vice versa.

[Banson]

Quote: Uruska

And who wants to fight against their own people? Who needs this civil war. We must strive for peace. Look for ways to interact, and not vice versa.

You can look for ways to interact with those who want to kill you or make you a slave. Personally, I do not want to seek interaction with such people. I feel better. To kill them all.

[antikilller55]

Hands are short with your beast, judge everyone. The time will come when you yourself will sit on a small bench in a cage, which one of you will live to see this.

[An-mi]

If you grab it, then of course!

[demand1]

So the real losses of dill emerge, some of whom, of course, switched over, but the majority grinded into minced meat in this meat grinder

[Denis Skiff]

uy bk and from usrains know how to count

[pvv113]

8 thousand Ukrainian security officials went over to the militia side

If 8000 is official information, then in fact much more

[sagitch]

They opened half of the criminal cases against the dead, and no compensation for the dead.

[Alekseir162]

It's like in a joke: "... Mikola, I caught a bear. So drag him here. But he won't let me go."
Before you judge anyone, you still need to catch him.

[Evgeniy30]

Lies. Hide real losses. Most likely almost all died. And they were recorded as traitors. Killed and betrayed. When will people in Ukraine finally begin to think?

[Aleksej49]

Quote: Alekseir162

It's like in a joke: "... Mikola, I caught a bear. So drag him here. But he won't let me go."
Before you judge anyone, you still need to catch him.

It is precisely necessary to catch, and it will be oh not easy.

[Vadym.o]

Quote: Abbra

I can’t judge whether this is so or not, but the fact that this statement is one of the wise ways to hide losses is for sure ... There is no person - there is no problem. Gone, however ...

rich fantasy

[Vadym.o]

Quote: Yuri from Volgograd

and civil war to love

And why are there Russian citizens fighting in the thousands, and AT THIS themselves complaining to the camera that the locals DO NOT WANT to fight? It turns out this is a Russian civil war

[Vadym.o]

and they will all be shot or on the bunk. On the Peacemaker website, everything is known about them. We look forward to the fall of Putin and - to the courts for extradition

[Leonid Har]

Wow. Why do you need a civil war? Be the head on your shoulders, make peace and start living humanly. And then everyone is trying to shoot someone, waiting for the fall of Putin. Watch TV less, work more and live without abuse. Putin would like war with Ukraine, tomorrow Kiev would be taken.

[Vadym.o]

Quote: Eugene30

Lies. Hide real losses. Most likely almost all died. And they were recorded as traitors. Killed and betrayed. When will people in Ukraine finally begin to think?

moronic logic: he himself said "most likely" (that is, without arguments), and then you advise someone to think. First, YOURSELF think about the arguments, and then give advice. Otherwise, as always in Russia, it is a land of advice

[Leonid Har]

And at whose expense will they hold a banquet? That is, who will contain them, dress, shoe, feed, arm?

[Evgeniy30]

Quote: Vadym.O

Quote: Eugene30

Lies. Hide real losses. Most likely almost all died. And they were recorded as traitors. Killed and betrayed. When will people in Ukraine finally begin to think?

moronic logic: he himself said "most likely" (that is, without arguments), and then you advise someone to think. First, YOURSELF think about the arguments, and then give advice. Otherwise, as always in Russia, it is a land of advice

That is, do you believe that 8 military personnel of the Ukrainian Armed Forces went over to the side of the militia? Do the militias know about this? And in your opinion, there is no need to think about it, but should we support Potroshenko and other creatures?

[Evgeniy30]

Quote: Vadym.O

Quote: Yuri from Volgograd

and civil war to love

And why are there Russian citizens fighting in the thousands, and AT THIS themselves complaining to the camera that the locals DO NOT WANT to fight? It turns out this is a Russian civil war

There are not thousands of Russian citizens there. There will be a couple of hundred. Mostly locals fight. And if, according to your logic, this is a Russian war, then why is the Ukrainian army shelling Donbass, i.e. their local residents who supposedly don’t want to fight?

[Vadym.o]

Quote: Eugene30

That is, do you believe that 8 military personnel of the Ukrainian Armed Forces went over to the side of the militia? Do the militias know about this? And in your opinion, there is no need to think about it, but should we support Potroshenko and other creatures?

Quote from Matios: "We have complete lists regarding 5 thousand law enforcement officers and about 3 thousand military personnel who went over to the side of the enemy,” he said.
8000 consists of ALL security forces: the Ministry of Internal Affairs, border guards, etc. And the lion's share is Crimean police and Ukrainian Armed Forces. Further, in June 2014 there was a wave of betrayals among the police. But how did anyone decide that this happened recently and mainly among the Ukrainian Armed Forces? Fantasies?

[Vadym.o]

Quote: Eugene30

There are not thousands of Russian citizens there. There will be a couple of hundred. Mostly locals fight. And if, according to your logic, this is a Russian war, then why is the Ukrainian army shelling Donbass, i.e. their local residents who supposedly don’t want to fight?

what are you saying? Is it hard to search online for the phrase “militias are complaining that the locals don’t want to fight”?
http://news.bigmir.net/ukraine/855051--Ataman--LNR-zhaluetsja--chto-mestnye-zhit
eli-ne-hotjat-voevat---video-
http://news.bigmir.net/ukraine/834189-Kavkazskij-naemnik-zhaluetsja--chto-zhitel
i-Donbassa-ne-idut-v--opolchenie-
http://pravdoryb.info/sem-prichin-togo-pochemu-muzhchiny-donbassa-ne-khotyat-voe
vat.html

[Evgeniy30]

Quote: Vadym.O

Quote: Eugene30

There are not thousands of Russian citizens there. There will be a couple of hundred. Mostly locals fight. And if, according to your logic, this is a Russian war, then why is the Ukrainian army shelling Donbass, i.e. their local residents who supposedly don’t want to fight?

what are you saying? Is it hard to search online for the phrase “militias are complaining that the locals don’t want to fight”?
http://news.bigmir.net/ukraine/855051--Ataman--LNR-zhaluetsja--chto-mestnye-zhit

eli-ne-hotjat-voevat---video-
http://news.bigmir.net/ukraine/834189-Kavkazskij-naemnik-zhaluetsja--chto-zhitel

i-Donbassa-ne-idut-v--opolchenie-
http://pravdoryb.info/sem-prichin-togo-pochemu-muzhchiny-donbassa-ne-khotyat-voe

vat.html

There are no Russian troops there, the militias themselves are fighting, a couple of hundred volunteers from Russia are not making a difference. And if they supposedly don’t want to, why is Kyiv killing them?

[Vadym.o]

Quote: Eugene30

There are no Russian troops there, the militias themselves are fighting, a couple of hundred volunteers from Russia are not making a difference. And if they supposedly don’t want to, why is Kyiv killing them?

Who was captured near Shchastya, and recently a major (rear officer), and last year 10 Pskov paratroopers from a defeated battalion? Everyone was armed, filled with fuel, tens of kilometers deep... And many others, “lost”, but not advertised in the media. And retroactively you can fire anyone - this has been a hobby since the times of the USSR: “Well, you know, if something happens...”. That's roughly what they told IM.

[Vadym.o]

Have the Russians completely lost their minds? If they want to hide losses, then losses hide, and don’t talk about them under any sauce!

[Valery]

simply brilliant! According to the law, you have to pay for the dead! and then - bam and people were written off! "escaped"! These are the losses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces! Are there any lists of “these” defectors? Or in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as they used to say in the Komsomol - “Komsomol members, Chinese and ants, cannot be counted!”