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Development of a new corvette is being completed at the Almaz Central Design Bureau.

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Specialists of TsMKB "Almaz" are completing the development of a new corvette of the 22800 project for the Russian Navy, reports Expert Online Post United Shipbuilding Corporation.



As commander-in-chief of the Navy Viktor Chirkov stated earlier, ships of the 11356 project for the Black Sea Fleet should be replaced in the future by corvettes of the 22800 project armed with cruise missiles.

“In accordance with the order of the Supreme Commander, a decision was made on the design and construction of small corvettes of the 22800 project. Currently, the Central Marine Design Bureau (TsMKB) "Almaz" is completing the development of the technical design of this ship in accordance with the tactical and technical characteristics issued by the Ministry of Defense of Russia ", Says the USC release.

It is expected that the lead ship of the new project will be laid in 2016. In total, it is planned to build 18 corvettes.
Photos used:
www.almaz-kb.ru
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  1. Stranger03
    Stranger03 12 August 2015 12: 46
    +6
    It would be interesting to look at the performance characteristics of new ships.
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 12 August 2015 12: 59
      +4
      Imagine 21631 without Ghibok, on the site of the Duet - Shell-M, and the UKKS is not along but across. That's all, in short bully
      1. GRAY
        GRAY 12 August 2015 13: 35
        +1
        Quote: Wiruz
        That's all, in short

        Perhaps there is still a difference in seaworthiness or some other "trifle".
    2. Wiruz
      Wiruz 12 August 2015 13: 01
      +6
      It would be interesting to look at the performance characteristics of new ships.

      Something like this. Clickable
      1. sniper
        sniper 12 August 2015 14: 56
        +3
        Quote: Wiruz
        Somehow

        Strange ... You have a rocket and artillery boat 12300, in the article "small corvette 22800" ....
        Is this the same thing? I did not find other pictures on the network ... What does the same thing happen, only with my engine?
      2. NordUral
        NordUral 12 August 2015 17: 13
        +2
        Weapons are weak, more saturated, especially anti-aircraft defense and anti-punitive. Air defense should be on every boat, and more.
    3. starshina78
      starshina78 12 August 2015 14: 28
      +2
      How many have already been developed, how many projects have been developed, and where are these projects in kind? If we build one corvette for several years, then a series of 18 ships will be built for thirty, or even forty years! Yes, golden times have passed for our Navy! When I was in the Navy, ships arrived at the Navy almost every month, and in the quarter for sure.
  2. ratfly
    ratfly 12 August 2015 12: 52
    +3
    Power installations on them who will do - the issue is resolved?
    1. Stranger03
      Stranger03 12 August 2015 12: 56
      +2
      Probably Power Machines from St. Petersburg. In any case, they will find a replacement for Ukrainian units.
  3. silver_roman
    silver_roman 12 August 2015 12: 57
    +12
    author, determine whether it’s corvettes or frigates!
    It is expected that the lead ship of the new project will be laid in 2016. In total, it is planned to build 18 frigates.

    As Navy Commander-in-Chief Viktor Chirkov previously stated, Project 11356 ships for the Black Sea Fleet should be replaced in the future corvettes 22800 project

    as I understand it, these are corvettes, but the displacement is even less than 20382.
    Question: why create a new project if there are 20382? who is in the know?

    and it’s not clear what is meant in this phrase:
    ships of project 11356 for the Black Sea Fleet should be replaced in the future by corvettes of project 22800

    11356, as I understand it, they have not even delivered it to the Black Sea Fleet, but they are going to replace it already, or will 11356 not be delivered to the Black Sea Fleet, but 22800 will replace them ???
    and in general, how can ships with a displacement of 4000 tons be replaced with ships with 800 tons? It’s difficult to call it even a corvette. Most likely, at 22800, in principle, there will not be a decent air defense system, in the best case, near-radius OSA.
    1. jaguar
      jaguar 12 August 2015 13: 03
      +6
      I honestly also did not understand ... what kind of nonsense?
    2. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 12 August 2015 15: 08
      +1
      The whole joke that yesterday the news was that the frigates of the second three would be built, and the engines would be delivered to them later. That is, this phrase about the replacement in general already in milk)
    3. NordUral
      NordUral 12 August 2015 17: 19
      +3
      Here he is. And you are right. We spank too many lips, constantly even contradicting ourselves. This will be this, that. And it is necessary as in the Union - quietly and without dust, but more.
  4. Wiruz
    Wiruz 12 August 2015 12: 58
    +9
    So after all, they already presented the concept art of this corvette, although it is more correct to call it MRK at the recently held naval salon.

    It is not clear why, or rather drafted it is needed? As a replacement for corvettes 20380, it is not suitable due to the lack of air defense and anti-aircraft defense functions, as a replacement for 21631 - so they do not need to be changed at all. Another budget cut?
    hi
    1. GRAY
      GRAY 12 August 2015 13: 08
      +4
      Quote: Wiruz
      More precisely, is it needed?

      It is necessary to place short- and medium-range missiles somewhere. This RTO is - a platform for cruise missiles. The INF Treaty for sea-based missiles is not distributed.
      1. Wiruz
        Wiruz 12 August 2015 13: 32
        +2
        You misunderstood. Draw 22800 if 21631 already exist?
        1. GRAY
          GRAY 12 August 2015 13: 50
          +1
          Quote: Wiruz
          You misunderstood. Draw 22800 if 21631 already exist?

          In addition to weapons, there are other characteristics there, 21631 is a ship of the coastal zone. I suspect that 22800 does not apply to those and is its full-fledged marine version.
          1. Wiruz
            Wiruz 12 August 2015 14: 05
            +1
            Well, yes, the range is 2500 miles, the autonomy is 15 bitches. Straight ship of the ocean zone, but with its weapons laughing
            1. GRAY
              GRAY 12 August 2015 14: 42
              +2
              Quote: Wiruz
              Straight ship of the ocean zone,

              There is also bad weather. How about a storm?
              At the expense of range, for such a ship 4000 km. this is not enough - you can disturb Alaska and half of Canada. And about Europe I generally keep quiet.
              In addition, it becomes possible to use the compound. In this case, range and autonomy increase due to support vessels.
          2. NordUral
            NordUral 12 August 2015 17: 23
            +1
            With eight hundred tons and autonomy of 15 days ?! Well, well, straight ocean boat. Let the Mooreans decide on the goals and then rivet the projects and ships, and they would not forget about the country’s not dimensionless pocket. And then the nuclear aircraft carriers are trying to harbor all the liberals, not by washing, so by skating and destroying the country's defense and leaving them without pants. DEFENSE must be built!
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 12 August 2015 14: 32
      +2
      Buyan’s hull is Zelenodolsky, whereby initially the contours were considered under the river in full displacement. Well, from every order, the money goes to Zelenodolsk PKB and AK BARS.

      This RTO has a corps from Scorpio - which they could not assemble in Yaroslavl. But it was initially more seaworthy, plus the design speed was 30 + nodes. Well, the money from each order goes to Diamond and USC.
  5. razzhivin
    razzhivin 12 August 2015 13: 04
    +3
    what is the difference with one of the versions of Buyan (900 tons) I do not understand (!) ... request
    boat
    1. insafufa
      insafufa 12 August 2015 13: 33
      +2
      Quote: razzhivin
      what is the difference with one of the versions of Buyan (900 tons) I do not understand (!) ... request
      boat


      The fact that the teal has been roofed by Diamond for a long time and they want to replace the debugged Buyan with another project from Diamond
      I motivate that he has a sea class and not a sea river
  6. slavik_gross
    slavik_gross 12 August 2015 13: 05
    +3
    Judging by the characteristics and images of the ship shown on the stand, the MRK of project 22800 has a displacement (full?) Of about 800 tons versus 500 tons for the boat of Project 12300. MRK of project 22800 is equipped with an eight-round vertical universal launcher UKSK, located in the rear of the superstructure, and an integrated mast with four fixed antenna arrays of a multifunctional radar complex placed on it (presumably, L-band Arbalet-D radar complex developed by Fazotron-NIIR Corporation).
  7. raiart
    raiart 12 August 2015 13: 24
    +3
    What collective farmer wrote the word "designer"? There is no such word - there is a DESIGNER!
  8. Engineer
    Engineer 12 August 2015 13: 25
    +4
    A month ago already discussed this
    http://topwar.ru/78127-malye-raketnye-korabli-proekta-22800-zamenyat-fregaty-pro
    ekta-11356.html
  9. fomkin
    fomkin 12 August 2015 14: 26
    0
    Estimated appearance of RTOs of project 22800 with a total displacement of up to 800 tons.
  10. Tor5
    Tor5 12 August 2015 15: 14
    -1
    Let's see how it goes.
  11. Sergey333
    Sergey333 12 August 2015 17: 59
    0
    In general, as always - cut money - everyone drags a blanket over himself. Everyone is trying to offer a smaller boat - the turnover of invested money is many times faster.
  12. dvg79
    dvg79 12 August 2015 18: 40
    0
    We are approaching the same rake as before. There is already a whole zoo of projects, and there are fewer and fewer ships in the fleet. It's time to decide on the range of tasks for the fleet and build combat units under them, with a minimum number of projects with a reserve of displacement, rather than a traditional overload , and the ability to quickly upgrade and rearm them.
  13. IAlex
    IAlex 13 August 2015 02: 25
    -1
    I said that some local patriots and officials started the maidan of the brain. The boat was already recorded in frigates, then rubber boats with oars will be raised to destroyers, which you won’t do for the sake of patriotism, idiocy, idleness and kickbacks. Moreover, an example is just around the corner, but already across the steppes, there are no more frigates who made them out of tugboats, and it doesn’t matter that they are tugboats, as Frungel bequeathed, how you call a ship so it will sail ...
  14. sergeyzzz
    sergeyzzz 9 October 2015 07: 16
    0
    Quote: dvg79
    We are approaching the same rake as before. There is already a whole zoo of projects, and there are fewer and fewer ships in the fleet. It's time to decide on the range of tasks for the fleet and build combat units under them, with a minimum number of projects with a reserve of displacement, rather than a traditional overload , and the ability to quickly upgrade and rearm them.

    A zoo of projects is good, it means we are developing, we are inventing new ones and there is competition among developers. But the bad thing is that there is nobody to build it (