Kiev offered to help the American defense industry in creating a domestic rocket engine

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Kiev authorities are ready to consider any options for cooperation with the United States in creating a rocket engine instead of the Russian RD-180, reports MIC with reference to the head of the Ukrainian Space Agency (SCAU), Oleg Urusky.

Kiev offered to help the American defense industry in creating a domestic rocket engine


“Indeed, there is an innovation in the fact that we have never produced a first-stage mid-flight engine; this is a little new topic for us. But our GKB Yuzhnoye has made significant progress in this direction, and today, with its new development, it participates in a serious tender in the USA. ”- said Uru.

At the request of Ukrainian journalists to assess the "potential of bilateral cooperation in the expensive program of the US Air Force," the head of the agency admitted: "Of course, in such large-scale projects, it is not possible without political support."

In his opinion, the refusal to cooperate with Russia in space programs allows us to hope that Washington will support Ukraine’s participation in the project. “We think that this cooperation will be mutually beneficial both for the American side and for Ukraine,” said Urusky.

“We are ready to consider any options for cooperation: we understand that the United States does not want to be dependent on foreign suppliers,” he said. “I think that something will be produced in the United States, something we will have, something we will produce together.”
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  1. Imperialkolorad Rank
    Imperialkolorad
    +29
    11 August 2015 17: 12
    Schazzz Americans will invest in a country with a dead economy.
    1. oleg-gr Rank
      oleg-gr
      +23
      11 August 2015 17: 14
      we have not produced before, but if you give the dough, we will do everything. for 10 years we will definitely do ...
      1. SibSlavRus Rank
        SibSlavRus
        +14
        11 August 2015 17: 23
        Only one phrase "political support is needed" has already put everything in its place.
        Yes, if the Americans believed in "this", they would have "privatized" the project long ago.
        Although the "show-off" and the overestimation (very strong) of their capabilities are already national in nature.
        1. Baikonur Rank
          Baikonur
          +1
          11 August 2015 20: 12
          And also - the phrase:
          Kiev offered help to American ...
          laughing

          Soon they will help the whole world! "Exclusive NATION"
          1. Vasek Rank
            Vasek
            +1
            12 August 2015 02: 23
            Quote: Baikonur
            Soon they will help the whole world! "Exclusive NATION"

            And I would not be so happy: in Ukraine, the Soviet Union at one time brought up a decent galaxy of scientists, engineers and specialists - both in rocket technology, in engine manufacturing, and in aircraft manufacturing.
            Another question is that they nevertheless decided to sell everything undisclosed to the enemies, "mosk @ lyam out of spite." And this is much worse - they created together, and one sells the created to the detriment of the other.
            It’s a pity that it came to this ...
      2. Vasek Trubachev Rank
        Vasek Trubachev
        +27
        11 August 2015 17: 37
        This is pure populism. Ukraine did not have experience in the development of liquid-propellant rocket engines with generator gas afterburning, which includes the RD-180. However, it should be noted that this populism did not arise from scratch, Yuzhmash was engaged in the production of a similar RD-120 engine, using the transferred Russian technology. But sharpening and cooking blanks according to ready-made drawings is not the same thing as developing, conducting thousands of field experiments on unique equipment and stands, which in Ukraine did not even exist. This is the scientific potential of the staff, which must also be obtained. The United States had the opportunity 100 times to "copy" the nk-33 and rd-180 purchased for itself, but as you can see, their cart is still there.
        1. Aleksander Rank
          Aleksander
          +4
          11 August 2015 21: 29
          They would pay for the water meter (but it’s really a problem!), and they are looking up somewhere ... lol
      3. ssn18 Rank
        ssn18
        0
        11 August 2015 19: 37
        And in 10 years there will still be SGA?
        On dUrkin, they will not be able to create anything, because whoever could create something already far, and who is left can only destroy.
        1. Throw Rank
          Throw
          -1
          12 August 2015 00: 00
          That is why on VO stubbornly post informational posts @ xoxlobovnikov?

          It has long been dejected is not funny.
    2. Infinity Rank
      Infinity
      +13
      11 August 2015 17: 15
      In-in. There is nothing left of the Yuzhny State Design Bureau.
      Dill does not understand, it seems that the United States needs its engines!
      1. Alf Rank
        Alf
        +2
        11 August 2015 20: 41
        Quote: Infinity
        Dill does not understand, it seems that the United States needs its engines!

        We understand that the United States does not want to be dependent on foreign suppliers, he said. “I think that something will be produced in the USA, something we have, something we will produce together.”

        As I understand it, with this phrase Urusky confirmed that Khokhstan would soon be the state of Pindostana.
    3. SuperChol Rank
      SuperChol
      -111
      11 August 2015 17: 16
      Today she is dead and tomorrow she may become one of the strongest in the world! If they invest, then everything is possible !!!! And just the contract will be an investment !!!
      1. Infinity Rank
        Infinity
        +22
        11 August 2015 17: 18
        Invest in what is on the verge of default, what WESTERN agencies have called the "last economy" of the world? Moreover, the United States needs its own engines, not Russian and even more so Ukrainian ones.
        1. Vasek Trubachev Rank
          Vasek Trubachev
          +8
          11 August 2015 17: 45
          NASA and ESA Bank does not need a competitor in the person of Yuzhmash. Therefore, now this enterprise is being plundered in a hurry, and specialists are leaving because they are not getting a penny after the Maidan. In a year, another, at best, it will be sold for $ 100 to some oligarch, and Coca-Cola bottling facilities will be placed in its place.
          1. Stalevar Rank
            Stalevar
            +40
            11 August 2015 18: 26
            Quote: SuperCool
            Today she is dead and tomorrow she may become one of the strongest in the world! If they invest, then everything is possible !!!! And just the contract will be an investment !!!

            Do you yourself believe in what you say, dear, or blurt out something for the glory of rotten Ukraine - is there an end in itself? This is essentially masturbation, verbal masturbation, moral masturbation. Bring yourself to orgasm wassat
            You are sick, unconditionally and seriously ill, however, like your whole country. Although only shame, filth and rot left from the country!
            You have nothing to feed people, and you, with the stubbornness of stupid zombies, climb to a place where you absolutely do not understand anything.
            Your path: to carry coal from South Africa, dig the Black Sea, ride like macaques in the squares and shoot at civilians of their own country. You are not capable of more, great Ukrainians fool !
            Sick you.
            But soon you will be cured.
            1. SuperChol Rank
              SuperChol
              -30
              11 August 2015 19: 09
              I will answer you as I think !!! If you work and there will be investments, then the economy will grow very quickly !!! and I dare to ask you that with these 2 points is not realistic ???
              1. Stalevar Rank
                Stalevar
                +30
                11 August 2015 19: 26
                Quote: SuperCool
                If you work and there will be investments

                This phrase - "if you work" in relation to you plunges me into deep despondency !!! It's one thing to really roll up our sleeves to work in the sweat of our brow to save a distraught country, and quite another thing to flutter our tongue, cormorate left and right, drive a blizzard that now we will start plowing, sowing, melting, plowing rocket engines, going out into open space together with the Turks and so on. Who is going to work? Are you? Yes, in your stupid Nazism, you are only capable of killing, consuming, eating, deifying yourself and blaming anyone for your troubles. You have become like animals.
                You are animals !!!
                And about investments ... Money always and only gives real prospects and results. You want to say that you guarantee this result. Rocket engines are not made with the tongue, but with the hands. Hands and head. A clear head, not a crap propaganda and a lie. The hands of the creator, not the killer and the onanist !!! You pissed away what has been acquired over the years. You pissed off yourself.
              2. ssn18 Rank
                ssn18
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                11 August 2015 19: 44
                "If they work and will ..."

                There is a good army saying, it is at least 30 years old, but in the media it was first voiced by the late A.I. Lebed. "If my grandmother had a device, she would be a grandfather."
              3. svp67 Rank
                svp67
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                11 August 2015 19: 46
                Quote: SuperCool
                If you work and there will be investments then the economy will grow very quickly !!! and I dare to ask you that with these 2 points is not realistic ???

                Lack of item number THREE. The presence of huge debts. Show at least one European country where the United States invested in the development of science-intensive production after the 90s of the 20th century. Only debts downloaded.
              4. kotyara Rank
                kotyara
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                11 August 2015 20: 09
                We really need a sales market, and the United States needs a reliable supplier, preferably from our country! And who can guarantee that in a few years Ukraine will not break contracts with the United States as well as break with the Russian Federation?
                1. svp67 Rank
                  svp67
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                  11 August 2015 20: 29
                  Quote: cat
                  And who can guarantee that in a few years Ukraine will not break contracts with the United States as well as break with the Russian Federation?

                  USA and NATO troops. All in all, one must buy up everything that is in Ukraine, which they are doing and placing now, officially the NATO bases on the territory of Ukraine, on which they are now working very fruitfully.
              5. VP Rank
                VP
                +3
                11 August 2015 20: 36
                Both points are unrealistic.
                Who can work in terms of creating and not selling, has long been screwed beyond the boundaries of Nenko.
                Skilled personnel retire, go abroad, the remaining ones poke from the military registration and enlistment offices and lose their skills due to production shutdowns.
                Investment requires a lot of conditions, money doesn’t go where it is downloaded, they overthrow the presidents, they are at war with the people, they are blocking, digging ditches along the borders, they are squeezing business, they are stealing billions, they are killing education, they are raiding men, they’re burning people, but personally devotees, where the infrastructure is collapsing and no one is going to invest in it, where there is an unbearable public debt for the economy, where leaders are quoted by the level of populism and not business efficiency.
                How can you lure a business at all?
                Why would anyone with money suddenly want to invest in you?
                The deals that he can make are either purely speculative or aimed at acquiring key objects such as ports, railway, oil refineries. Without investing in reconstruction and development. Because such costs have a long payback period, and you have nothing stable, in principle, has never happened and is not expected.
                For long investments, the business will easily find more successful regions of the world.
              6. Alf Rank
                Alf
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                11 August 2015 20: 47
                Quote: SuperCool
                If work

                So who is bothering you?
                1. shvn Rank
                  shvn
                  +1
                  11 August 2015 22: 15
                  Khokhlam Putin is to blame for everything ...
              7. NordUral Rank
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                11 August 2015 21: 07
                The first point - I do not argue. The second is the problem.
              8. lis-ik Rank
                lis-ik
                +5
                11 August 2015 21: 29
                Guys do not touch a person! He is also a patriot of his country, and is quite adequate! Has the right to hope and wait. We believe that someday we will stop trading in raw materials!
                1. shvn Rank
                  shvn
                  +1
                  11 August 2015 22: 16
                  We will never stop trading in raw materials. but it will occupy less than now in budget-forming revenues
              9. Karayakupovo Rank
                Karayakupovo
                +2
                11 August 2015 23: 40
                Wildly sorry. And before that, whose rocket ditched the Amer satellite at launch? Perhaps the forum users will tell you specifically both the date and the rocket. But she was definitely Ukrainian. And after that, the Americans refused to take Ukrainian overclocking units — the Russian ones turned out to be more reliable.
              10. Aljavad Rank
                Aljavad
                +1
                12 August 2015 02: 09
                If you work and there will be investments then the economy will grow very quickly !!! and I dare to ask you that with these 2 points is not realistic ???


                Investments. The message, in general, is true. But there will be no investment.
                And just "work", as you yourself understand, is not enough. You need at least an order. And who needs Ukrainian products? Formerly Russia. And now? In which markets are you expected? Without markets, investments will not save (and they will not be!).

                Now your destiny is to work on the road. Either in Russia or in Europe.
              11. 33 Watcher Rank
                33 Watcher
                +1
                12 August 2015 02: 53
                Nothing, not real. While in power a bloodthirsty thief. And on the streets the power of the fascists from P.S. Nothing ...
                And another government is for you in the state. Depe, did not prepare, and are unlikely to prepare.
          2. tweezers Rank
            tweezers
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            11 August 2015 19: 15
            Quote: Vasyok Trubachev
            NASA and ESA Bank does not need a competitor in the person of Yuzhmash. Therefore, now this enterprise is being plundered in a hurry, and specialists are leaving because they are not getting a penny after the Maidan. In a year, another, at best, it will be sold for $ 100 to some oligarch, and Coca-Cola bottling facilities will be placed in its place.

            no! this enterprise will produce machines for the retail sale of Coca-Cola, coffee and all kinds of chocolates, which will be installed in American research and production centers for the development and manufacture of rocket engines. this will be the role of the Ukrainian side in joint developments with the Americans ...
      2. svp67 Rank
        svp67
        +36
        11 August 2015 17: 21
        Quote: SuperCool
        Today she is dead and tomorrow she may become one of the strongest in the world!

        I heard this back in the 90s. And do you still believe that the Americans and Europeans will expel their workers and engineers from the missile plants, so that Ukraine would flourish? They will quickly outbid smart designers. It will be cheaper and calmer.
        1. veksha50 Rank
          veksha50
          +7
          11 August 2015 17: 45
          Quote: svp67
          They will quickly outbid smart designers. It will be cheaper and calmer.



          It should also not be forgotten that the Yuzhnoye Design Bureau worked closely with MIT (Moscow Heat Engineering Plant), and not everything that was born and produced by Yuzhnoye Design Bureau was 100% "southern" ...
          1. svp67 Rank
            svp67
            +7
            11 August 2015 17: 47
            Quote: veksha50
            not everything born and produced by the Yuzhnoye design bureau was 100% "southern" ...

            But ALL of them will be SOLD.
        2. SuperChol Rank
          SuperChol
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          11 August 2015 19: 19
          Yeah, why then in Russia bought the RD-180 ???? Can you just buy specialists or just like China, for example, just copy ?? The fact is that sometimes it’s easier to buy on the side than to make one and the comment is not about what they will buy from us there, but that everything is possible !!! But it’s not interesting for you. Ukraine is a ruin and so on, although you really didn’t understand it like that !!!
          1. svp67 Rank
            svp67
            +6
            11 August 2015 19: 31
            Quote: SuperCool
            Can you just buy specialists or just like China, for example, just copy ??

            What they successfully did, for the time being with us. But they could not repeat the technology, it turned out that it was too expensive for them. Since one would have to redo too much to just repeat what the Russians did long ago.
            Quote: SuperCool
            The fact is that sometimes it’s easier to buy on the side than to do it yourself

            This is true. But Ukraine did not make rocket engines, it received them from Russia, including during the Soviet era. That is, you also need to create such a production from scratch. So think about whether the "investors" will be so generous that they will be ready to build such a plant and, in general, your production. To construct is still a quarter of the work, the rest is to put what the constructor came up with on the stream.
            1. svp67 Rank
              svp67
              +8
              11 August 2015 19: 34

              SuperCool]But this is not interesting for you. Ukraine is a ruin and so on.
              Find me at least one of my comments, where I stated this, and I agree with you.
              I just said and will say that now you are successfully destroying what you did not build and that made up a single whole with that built in other republics of the USSR.
          2. Aleks28 Rank
            Aleks28
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            11 August 2015 19: 45
            I also put forward my candidacy (for deliveries of rd180) We have equal chances. I never did it either: the main engine was first stage.
          3. eaz Rank
            eaz
            +4
            11 August 2015 21: 49
            SOLD MALOROSSIA. SO ALREADY SUSPENDED. AT THE FINAL STAGE WE ARE RUSSIANS. BELAROSES. BURYATS. MORDWINS. BASHKIRS, etc. TO TAKE OUT AND WILL BE. YOU ARE NO NEED FOR ANYONE. ME AND MY CHILDREN ARE IN THE SOUL .. YOU ARE SAME BA LA BO LKI
          4. rotkiv04 Rank
            rotkiv04
            +1
            11 August 2015 23: 36
            and you are really superIDIOT
          5. Aljavad Rank
            Aljavad
            0
            12 August 2015 02: 17
            But it’s not interesting for you. Ukraine is a ruin and so on, although you really didn’t understand that way !!!


            We have long and meticulously watched how the MOST RICH, MOST DEVELOPED republic of the USSR is degrading. As construction sites and markets are filled with ukro-migrant workers, and the panels are ukro-girls.

            I do not believe that they all went to us, from a prosperous country to the wilderness and game. Rather, the opposite.
          6. 33 Watcher Rank
            33 Watcher
            0
            12 August 2015 03: 00
            Well, let's say they tried to copy, the result is known. And the ruin ... Because the ruin. Ruins of economy, ruins of statehood, ruins of houses, villages, cities, ruins of monuments. Ruins of reason after all. And guys, this is not "well, yes, there are problems", this is a complete pi ... dec! You need 30 years to restore after a year and a half of the activity of your revolutionary authorities, and then if you start right now.
      3. Snake AAA Rank
        Snake AAA
        +34
        11 August 2015 17: 23
        Come back from space, super crest! That country as Ukraine is no longer there, and it is not a fact that it will not fall apart even more, so you have chosen the wrong allies for yourself, the Anglo-Saxons are only slaves in you and you see only three ok
      4. HAM Rank
        HAM
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        11 August 2015 17: 23
        Duren dumka rich, and, you, investment ..
      5. djqnbdjqnb Rank
        djqnbdjqnb
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        11 August 2015 17: 24
        Quote: ImperialKolorad
        Schazzz Americans will invest in a country with a dead economy.

        Quote: SuperCool
        Today she is dead and tomorrow she may become one of the strongest in the world!

        "Today every third without boots,
        and after the battle they will heal like Croesus! "(V. Vysotsky)
        Americans already have experience of such cooperation. After such cooperation, one booster rocket immediately after launch created such a spectacular firework that Yusniknik am still hiccuping from these memories. So you can’t even hope
      6. FID Rank
        FID
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        11 August 2015 17: 28
        Quote: SuperCool
        Today she is dead and tomorrow she may become one of the strongest in the world! If they invest, then everything is possible !!!! And just the contract will be an investment !!!

        “We are ready to consider any options for cooperation: we understand that the United States does not want to be dependent on foreign suppliers,” he said. “I think that something will be produced in the United States, something we will have, something we will produce together.”

        This is a statement by O. Urusky, a Ukrainian, as I understand it. "The United States does not want to depend on foreign suppliers ..." - Ukraine, therefore, is one of the states. And you about "nezalezhnosti" are carrying a blizzard! And not ashamed ???
      7. ALABAY45 Rank
        ALABAY45
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        11 August 2015 17: 36
        You have been "invested" in all places for more than a year! Maybe you are dead after all ?! belay
      8. tolancop Rank
        tolancop
        +2
        11 August 2015 17: 38
        Not funny....
      9. Gecko Rank
        Gecko
        +7
        11 August 2015 17: 40
        You will learn what technologies and may even say thanks ...
        You Ukrainians as holders of MMM 90s did not teach you anything.
        1. Nord2015 Rank
          Nord2015
          +4
          11 August 2015 18: 55
          Quote: gecko
          You Ukrainians as holders of MMM 90s did not teach you anything.

          I remember the unforgettable Lenya Golubkov and the phrase - we are not freeloaders, we are partners! History is repeating itself as farce.
        2. Aljavad Rank
          Aljavad
          +1
          12 August 2015 02: 27
          You Ukrainians as holders of MMM 90s did not teach you anything.


          And there the 90s rule! Right now they have a year 1996-98. Iron stalls with grills, assault exchangers and breadwinners under the roof. And also blackouts.

          There is almost nothing shameful here (they themselves experienced this), only for a long time somehow. Type of developmental delay, well, how to urinate in bed until the age of 20 .... feel
      10. veksha50 Rank
        veksha50
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        11 August 2015 17: 43
        Quote: SuperCool
        Today she is dead and tomorrow she may become one of the strongest in the world! If they invest, then everything is possible !!!! And just the contract will be an investment !!!



        For your information, the development of Yuzhnoye Design Bureau stopped just at Voevoda and Scalpel, this was the second half of the 80s, that is, even before the collapse of the USSR ... mutual conspiracy of amers and drunk), and that's it, nothing else !!!

        For a research and production corporation over a quarter of a century, stagnation is, count, death !!!
        And believe me, I’m far from gloating about the problems of Yuzhnoye Design Bureau, but I have to admit a fact ... There’s nothing to wait and catch there ... Funds are in the ass, as well as personnel ...
        1. SuperChol Rank
          SuperChol
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          11 August 2015 19: 46
          I agree with you there are problems !! And it’s not just according to the South Design Bureau. Nobody has invested in the development of science in Ukraine for already 24 years. All science and discoveries are based on the enthusiasm of scientists and on the shoulders of the enterprises that made these inventions. But this does not mean that there is no potential and that there are no new developments !!! Here, for example, the development of Zenit and Cyclone rockets was carried out in independent Ukraine !!! The same rocket Dnieper !!! so that they work, albeit weakly, but they work !!!
          1. fridge Rank
            fridge
            +5
            11 August 2015 20: 13
            No one has invested in the development of science in Ukraine for 24 years already.
            And who used to invest? Do not make people laugh, maybe Europe will start investing il Rothschilds? Is it not clear yet that the West has disconnected and renamed the Russians into ho.hlov and it is ruining everything with your hands. All the value of Ukraine for the West, this scarecrow for Russia is all.
          2. fridge Rank
            fridge
            0
            11 August 2015 20: 13
            No one has invested in the development of science in Ukraine for 24 years already.
            And who used to invest? Do not make people laugh, maybe Europe will start investing il Rothschilds? Is it not clear yet that the West has disconnected and renamed the Russians into ho.hlov and it is ruining everything with your hands. All the value of Ukraine for the West, this scarecrow for Russia is all.
          3. kotyara Rank
            kotyara
            +1
            11 August 2015 20: 15
            What works is good! But what to do with these missiles? Russia refused them, the USA and the EU do not need them either, and unit production does not pay back the cost!
          4. Aleks28 Rank
            Aleks28
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            11 August 2015 20: 16
            Zenit and Cyclone are Soviet developments. And the Dnieper is a joint development (based on the Soviet Satan)
          5. svp67 Rank
            svp67
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            11 August 2015 20: 18
            Quote: SuperCool
            Here, for example, the development of Zenit and Cyclone rockets was carried out in independent Ukraine !!! The same rocket Dnieper !!!

            All this began to be done during the Soviet era and continued in cooperation with Russia and other CIS countries. You didn’t do much yourself, but rather played the role of a gathering area. And now, without supplies from Russia, the same "Voevod" being removed, you can already cross out "Zenith" from the list where the share of Russian components is 70%, "Cyclone" is the same as it is a demilitarized "Voevoda", like "Dnepr" and that left?
          6. vodolaz Rank
            vodolaz
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            11 August 2015 20: 26
            Quote: SuperCool
            I agree with you there are problems !! And it’s not just according to the South Design Bureau. Nobody has invested in the development of science in Ukraine for already 24 years. All science and discoveries are based on the enthusiasm of scientists and on the shoulders of the enterprises that made these inventions. But this does not mean that there is no potential and that there are no new developments !!! Here, for example, the development of Zenit and Cyclone rockets was carried out in independent Ukraine !!! The same rocket Dnieper !!! so that they work, albeit weakly, but they work !!!

            It seems to me that someone is very much wishful thinking. Yes, once the Ukrainian SSR had its own design bureaus, which were developing something, but the nomenclature was very limited. The production chain was built so that the main design bureaus were on the territory of the RSFSR, and in the Ukrainian SSR - production. We will be able to set up our production, but will you be able to develop something of our own? The same turbines or rockets? And to whom did they surrender: Boeing, Airbus, Lockheed Martin? Someone there from your rulers promised Ukraine a nuclear power in a few years, the whole Internet was laughing. We got sick with this disease 20 years ago: it was called "Abroad will help us." And you happily lie down under one well-known negro and call this nezalezhnosti. But you haven't earned money on Vaseline yet.
            1. svp67 Rank
              svp67
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              11 August 2015 20: 50
              Quote: vodolaz
              We had this disease 20 years ago:

              Here is a photo of that time, doesn’t resemble anything?

          7. Aleks28 Rank
            Aleks28
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            11 August 2015 20: 36
            http://www.floomby.ru/s2/5U7XTF А вот и тот самый маршевай двигатель,только с зенита. wink
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          8. Vladimirets Rank
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            11 August 2015 20: 46
            Quote: SuperCool
            No one has invested in the development of science in Ukraine for 24 years already.

            This is a key phrase.
            Quote: SuperCool
            All science and discoveries are based on the enthusiasm of scientists and on the shoulders of the enterprises that made these inventions.

            With enthusiasm, you can study the sexual life of a gopher in wet weather, but to build rocket engines is possible only with serious resources.
          9. Karayakupovo Rank
            Karayakupovo
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            11 August 2015 23: 49
            Again, wildly sorry. And who made the Swan satellites for Ukraine and is waiting for payment? Can you tell me? But not Ukraine and the United States.
          10. 33 Watcher Rank
            33 Watcher
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            12 August 2015 03: 04
            Set + for faith, and for something that you find within yourself the strength to argue.
            1. Nikoha.2010 Rank
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              12 August 2015 03: 13
              Quote: Observer 33
              Set + for faith, and for something that you find within yourself the strength to argue.

              Oleg in the dispute truth is born! hi The only way!
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      12. Djozz Rank
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        11 August 2015 17: 57
        "So you are not a composer! Not today, but tomorrow I will be! Tomorrow you will come!" . (c) from the movie "Funny guys". Oh, these mriyas.
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      14. Imperialkolorad Rank
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        11 August 2015 18: 10
        Quote: SuperCool
        Today she is dead and tomorrow she may become one of the strongest in the world! If they invest, then everything is possible !!!! And just the contract will be an investment !!!

        C stupid Nazi puppets in power ready for evil grandmother ears will not freeze.
      15. fridge Rank
        fridge
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        11 August 2015 18: 17
        Superhole, you’d better go to the Bandera engine and on Mars it will be there first! lol
      16. vodolaz Rank
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        11 August 2015 18: 22
        Quote: SuperCool
        Today she is dead and tomorrow she may become one of the strongest in the world! If they invest, then everything is possible !!!! And just the contract will be an investment !!!

        Pour it, huh))
      17. Albert1988 Rank
        Albert1988
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        11 August 2015 18: 24
        Quote: SuperCool
        Today she is dead and tomorrow she may become one of the strongest in the world!

        Sorry, but for about 25 years, maybe ...
      18. kotvov Rank
        kotvov
        +4
        11 August 2015 18: 29
        Today she is dead and tomorrow she may become one of the strongest in the world! If they invest, then everything is possible !!!! And just the contract will be an investment !!! ,,
        Excuse me, have you been tested for a long time, along with the Urusk? Americans took and allowed to the feeder, “the great and the unbelieving”
      19. Loner_53 Rank
        Loner_53
        +4
        11 August 2015 18: 35
        Quote: SuperCool
        Today she is dead and tomorrow she may become one of the strongest in the world! If they invest, then everything is possible !!!! And just the contract will be an investment !!!

        Is it you from dill so rushing or from fly agarics with bacon?
      20. goncharov.62 Rank
        goncharov.62
        +1
        11 August 2015 18: 36
        Are there too many exclamation points, buddy? So I want to jump ... :))
        1. Kos_kalinki9 Rank
          Kos_kalinki9
          +1
          11 August 2015 19: 43
          And tighten it at the top of my voice - she didn’t die ....
      21. Dry_T-50 Rank
        Dry_T-50
        +1
        11 August 2015 18: 41
        Quote: SuperCool
        Today she is dead and tomorrow she may become one of the strongest in the world! If they invest, then everything is possible !!!! And just the contract will be an investment !!!

        In the context of the scale of Ukrainian corruption, words later.
      22. andrereu74 Rank
        andrereu74
        +2
        11 August 2015 19: 21
        Do you still believe that the Yankees and Geyropeytsy need you ??????????????
      23. Jack-b Rank
        Jack-b
        +6
        11 August 2015 19: 27
        That the kid was minus, I'm only "for". Let them invest. This will not help Ukraine. It won't help the Americans either. I am for it".
      24. ssn18 Rank
        ssn18
        +2
        11 August 2015 19: 38
        Zero by how many do not multiply, so it will remain zero. This unfinished life has lived through subsidies, extortion and blackmail, and this cannot go on forever.
      25. mark2 Rank
        mark2
        +2
        11 August 2015 20: 27
        For investments to go into the country, the country itself must prove that it is suitable for investors. That there are profitable industries, that the political situation is stable, the rules of the economic game are clear, and the economy is stable. As in China, for example. It's all there. There are hands, there are factories, there is stability and the unchanging leadership of the CCP. And most importantly, the country knows what it wants. And she wants to be a world leader and not "Tse Europe"
      26. PiP Rank
        PiP
        +3
        11 August 2015 20: 33
        Quote: SuperCool
        Today she is dead and tomorrow she may become one of the strongest in the world!

        Maybe even "the most" great and strongest ... But only if he stops dealing with "Nonsense", that is not a day, then "kooky" ... Why instead of creation the path of destruction was chosen? Who prevented you from building and is now preventing you? Probably Russians ...
        Quote: SuperCool
        If they invest, then everything is possible !!!!

        "Hello, we've arrived ..." - YOU DIDN'T TRY WHAT TO DO? If you are not familiar with the history (at least the USSR), then check out, in the "young country of the Soviets" no one invested anything, on the contrary.
        Quote: SuperCool
        And just the contract will be an investment !!!

        Here everyone remembers the memorable MDKVP- "Zubr" (project 12322) ... Sell both ships and production documentation while not making any effort to design. So it will be with the engines? What dock managed to keep that "amer and vparim", and then what? Who will develop something further?
        ss
        Do not be upset, it is a shame for Ukrainians ...
      27. Alf Rank
        Alf
        0
        11 August 2015 20: 45
        Quote: SuperCool
        Today she is dead and tomorrow she may become one of the strongest in the world! If they invest, then everything is possible !!!! And just the contract will be an investment !!!

        The key word is "maybe" or maybe not. For the information of the above, no one has yet been able to reanimate the dead.
        Fuck knows how many millions have already been invested in your economy, but for some reason your economy did not become the first in the world for some reason, and you didn’t heal better, except for a narrow circle of people who don’t pronounce "p".
      28. manguest Rank
        manguest
        0
        11 August 2015 20: 53
        And tomorrow, a funeral.
      29. patriot-rf Rank
        patriot-rf
        0
        11 August 2015 20: 54
        I wonder how the dead can become strong? Is it just that a zombie. So a zombie is one fucking dead man
      30. eaz Rank
        eaz
        +1
        11 August 2015 21: 27
        A BURNER CHO WOULD HAVE NOT ENDED AGAIN yet?
      31. nikpwolf Rank
        nikpwolf
        0
        11 August 2015 21: 32
        Quote: SuperCool
        Today she is dead and tomorrow she may become one of the strongest in the world! If they invest, then everything is possible !!!! And just the contract will be an investment !!!

        The contract (read - Oh, joy, loot !!!) under "maybe ... sometime later ... let's try right now ..." No, well, I understand that it's very hunting ... Well, it's real limit of imagination. Realities are the same ... Although ... if you jump well ... Well, I don't know.
      32. Retvizan 8 Rank
        Retvizan 8
        +1
        11 August 2015 21: 56
        Well, brother is too pretentious! And very funny! "one of the strongest in the world", Ostap Bender is resting with his "New Vasyuki"
      33. shvn Rank
        shvn
        +1
        11 August 2015 22: 09
        Pin-d-o-s-a-m is easier than all Ukrainians who are needed to continue the topic, just buy and export them Dill, and not "invest" in the egg-sniffing country
      34. Aljavad Rank
        Aljavad
        0
        12 August 2015 02: 01
        If they invest, then everything is possible !!!!


        Who will "be"? Why would they? They have nowhere else to invest? They - what? Suicides ??? Are there such in nature?
        So, in this case it is IMPOSSIBLE!

        And Ukraine will remain the outskirts of Europe, and they will confuse it with Moldova and Albania ...
    4. Juborg Rank
      Juborg
      +6
      11 August 2015 17: 36
      Ukraine is sold to anyone, only who does not want to take it. Well, space engines are not fat smoked. So far, Ukraine has lived Soviet and Russian developments.
    5. Leeder Rank
      Leeder
      +6
      11 August 2015 17: 53
      Why invest?
      Specialists and documentation will be taken out, ostensibly for study, and then they will say, "Don't!"
      Why buy something from slaves, if you can take it away ???
    6. siberalt Rank
      siberalt
      +2
      11 August 2015 17: 56
      SGA is easier to buy brains than contacting a state that is not.
    7. vodolaz Rank
      vodolaz
      +1
      11 August 2015 18: 21
      Yeah, American military companies seem to be happy to shelter a competitor, given their lobbying practice.
    8. cayman gene Rank
      cayman gene
      +3
      11 August 2015 18: 45
      said well, with those who stink of carrion, Americans will not invest even in digging ditches in cemeteries. unless their American coffins will offer to buy.
    9. roskot Rank
      roskot
      0
      11 August 2015 19: 17
      Kiev offered help to the American defense industry.
      Offer something offered. But will they marry?
    10. Kent0001 Rank
      Kent0001
      +1
      11 August 2015 20: 02
      If the Americans contact the Khokh.lams, then in a couple of years they’ll fly into space through a trampoline ....
    11. Sterlya Rank
      Sterlya
      0
      11 August 2015 21: 28
      to dill does not reach that they simply have ....
      and nothing more...
      And so. I have nothing against. no one will refuse the sight of a beautiful explosion at the start. especially together with striped ones on board. and they have both start so in lard min. stacked
    12. Aljavad Rank
      Aljavad
      0
      12 August 2015 01: 50
      Schazzz Americans will invest in a country with a dead economy.

      Specialists may be invited. How from 90s Russia.

      Although ... Everything that they could tell about Soviet developments was already told, but is there anything new? Or maybe they only think that it is?
  2. Mihail177 Rank
    Mihail177
    +5
    11 August 2015 17: 13
    It would be better if fat and vodka were offered to the Indians. At least safer wink
  3. avvg Rank
    avvg
    +2
    11 August 2015 17: 14
    Washington itself is not happy to have contacted Ukrainians.
  4. Persistent Rank
    Persistent
    +4
    11 August 2015 17: 15
    Otkel will fly there and return !!! The engines created in the USSR at the genetic level have a memory ... only to America !!!! laughing
  5. svp67 Rank
    svp67
    +17
    11 August 2015 17: 16
    Well, well .. successful and loud explosions to you at the start. Desire and talent may not hold them, but experience ... Ukrainians have already remade Russian engines and how it ended ...
    1. Douel Rank
      Douel
      +1
      11 August 2015 19: 48
      I wanted to write about the Antares missile. How it began and how it ended.
  6. sever.56 Rank
    sever.56
    +23
    11 August 2015 17: 17
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/316/ihjh766.jpg

    In general, what the hell should they help the amerikosy? Soon Ukraine will be a great space power! And not only the Americans and Europe, but the whole world will line up to launch their vehicles from the world's best cosmodrome "pid Lviv" ... !!! laughing
    1. serega73 Rank
      serega73
      +8
      11 August 2015 18: 45
      Well done! I remembered a joke, I’ll change the existing nation a bit, in the original, China.
      well, the joke itself - when launching a spacecraft in Ukraine, 8000 people suffered. Three thousand people tore their bellies from laughter, watching 15 pulling the catapult with the ship, and another 000 did not have time to release the rubber harness and were put into orbit with the ship ...
  7. Abbra Rank
    Abbra
    +9
    11 August 2015 17: 17
    I applaud Ukraine! These will do. Black Sea dug. And some sort of rocket engine ...
    1. Tor5
      Tor5
      +3
      11 August 2015 18: 13
      I remembered an old Soviet anecdote: "An international crew came down to the ground, two of ours and a Vietnamese, they ask the Vietnamese - why are their hands so red? - And they beat me on them all the time and sentenced - don't stick it where you don't know!"
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  8. BAT Rank
    BAT
    +7
    11 August 2015 17: 18
    They have already produced at their place, whores are sub-fence. They all collapsed, but now they don’t know who to lie under. Who needs them, corrupt creatures. All their potential is all Soviet developments. And over the years of independence, they did not come up with their nichrome. And now they will sell everything to amers, scum.
  9. KBR109 Rank
    KBR109
    +4
    11 August 2015 17: 19
    Rave. Some sensible designers are already out of Ukraine. The remaining travel Americans will be invited to work for themselves. Why should they invest heavily and raise the heavy?
  10. wow Rank
    wow
    +5
    11 August 2015 17: 25
    Uh-huh. The degenerates have already "created" so much that vomiting begins.
  11. drags33 Rank
    drags33
    +9
    11 August 2015 17: 26
    Industry and the economy are ruined, chaos in the dill, energy is breathing ... Therefore, all these projects are unscientific fiction in the crazy minds of dill politicians. Today, dill can only produce chaos, devastation, poverty of the population !!!
  12. sl22277 Rank
    sl22277
    +1
    11 August 2015 17: 27
    With the help of Khokhlov, it will be extremely difficult to go to space ...
  13. veksha50 Rank
    veksha50
    +3
    11 August 2015 17: 37
    " we understand that the US does not want to be dependent on foreign suppliers"...

    Wow, what is the wording ... You might think that Ukraine is already another US state ...

    PS "Design Bureau Yuzhnoye has moved in this direction" ...
    In which ??? After the cessation of military-technical cooperation with Russia in the field of rocket science, what did the Yuzhnoye Design Bureau do, about whose fate even I, a citizen of Russia, mourn ??? To ditch such scientific personnel and production, and to declare that only dilettant who absolutely does not own the situation and information can advance something during the period of stagnation-downtime ...
    IT probably thinks that rocket engines are molded like pies ... Well, as if from sand or dung ...
    It’s not for you to rivet cars in garages and barns ...
  14. Russian Rank
    Russian
    +2
    11 August 2015 17: 40
    Quote: SuperCool
    Today she is dead and tomorrow she may become one of the strongest in the world! If they invest, then everything is possible !!!! And just the contract will be an investment !!!

    You can put a golden saddle on a donkey, but he will never become a horse, wrap yourself on a mustache!
  15. Old26 Rank
    Old26
    +4
    11 August 2015 17: 42
    Quote: SuperCool
    Today she is dead and tomorrow she may become one of the strongest in the world! If they invest, then everything is possible !!!! And just the contract will be an investment !!!

    KBYu has been dead for a quarter of a century, if we talk about the design bureau. What in a quarter of a century was created by the Independent as part of its missile programs? "Cyclone-4" did not work, because the engines are Russian. Borisfen, Thunder, and finally, Sapsan - all stillborn, paper projects. Only dreams "We will create", no more
  16. igorra Rank
    igorra
    0
    11 August 2015 17: 42
    A fat in hoh.land left? Without it, how will the Americans get into the ass?
  17. olimpiada15 Rank
    olimpiada15
    +3
    11 August 2015 17: 45
    Starved
    Of course, states need engines and they’re going to fly,
    but that in Ukraine there will be at least some industry according to the plans of the states - this is not in their plans,
    the deceitful and greedy "svidomye" do not understand that their same deceitful and greedy patron simply destroys them.
  18. Olegater Rank
    Olegater
    +2
    11 August 2015 17: 58
    I read lying on the floor laughing for an hour. But what a good idea - krivorukovy Ukrainians make an engine (from which they will find it in the garbage dump), and p.i.nd.s.d.sy will build rockets and Cotmonauts. As a result, a krassssiyivyyy salute from bloodthirsty striped. So you can reduce the number of hawks in lice if the co-astronauts and those who want to fly 5-10 seconds transfer on an American rocket with a Khokhlyatsk engine will transfer.
  19. Olegater Rank
    Olegater
    +1
    11 August 2015 18: 01
    All efforts must be made to ensure that the meeting of the American rocket and the Khokhlyatsky engine takes place !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  20. Djozz Rank
    Djozz
    +2
    11 August 2015 18: 02
    Donkey seeing "Zaporozhets" said: "If this is a car, then I'm a horse!"
  21. VP Rank
    VP
    +1
    11 August 2015 18: 02
    They never did the first step but are going to teach amers. I think that staffers from the proposal will be delighted and, of course, will not give an order to their developers.
  22. Maks-80 Rank
    Maks-80
    0
    11 August 2015 18: 08
    Not so long ago, the Americans exploded a rocket at launch with a Ukrainian engine. Let's laughing
  23. fa2998 Rank
    fa2998
    +2
    11 August 2015 18: 15
    Quote: oleg-gr
    we have not produced before, but if you give the dough, we will do everything. for 10 years we will definitely do ...

    Or maybe we won't! Design Bureau "Yuzhnoye" really thundered in the Soviet Union. The enterprise was modern and WORKED IN COOPERATION with Russian enterprises. A lot of water has flowed under the bridge. "Yuzhnoye" lived and lived using the previous developments of the USSR. 23 years "Square "- the old specialists are already retired and the development of production is" mute ". I don't know what they will develop there ?! negative hi
  24. Thomas Rank
    Thomas
    +4
    11 August 2015 18: 23
    "... But our Yuzhnoye State Design Bureau has made significant progress in this direction, and today, with its new development, is participating in a serious tender in the United States," Urusky said.

    Design Bureau "Yuzhnoye" at Yuzhmash? Is this where the electricity and water were turned off? Is this where the recruiting office employees catch workers at the checkpoint?
    Flag in hand! laughing
  25. biron Rank
    biron
    +1
    11 August 2015 18: 28
    Quote: SuperCool
    Today she is dead and tomorrow she may become one of the strongest in the world! If they invest, then everything is possible !!!! And just the contract will be an investment !!!

    Well, yes, for 23 years everything has been pulled away and sold, and now you will have an okay, joker. laughing
  26. Oman 47 Rank
    Oman 47
    +1
    11 August 2015 18: 28
    Super-duperCohol, go home to Censor!
    A fiery prYuvet to Mr. Butusov and your other brothers, "PerEmozhtsy".
    Smoke bamboo and dill - and you will be happy.
  27. Vlad5307 Rank
    Vlad5307
    0
    11 August 2015 18: 31
    Americans are forced to buy Russian rocket engines, because their project for a similar purpose has not yet been completed (such as switching to their own by 2020). And why would they invest in the South - in a patient who is more likely dead than alive! Fantasies from scratch, not for this they brought this junta to power! laughing
  28. serezhasoldatow Rank
    serezhasoldatow
    0
    11 August 2015 18: 33
    Something will be produced or improved, something produced on the Maidan.
  29. zulus222 Rank
    zulus222
    +1
    11 August 2015 18: 36
    it’s called something like this: I swear my mom really wants money!
  30. abrede Rank
    abrede
    +1
    11 August 2015 18: 40
    Well, the last brains with KB South, the Americans will take to their place and FSE! Farm Ukraine sells rapeseed, sunflower and the most beautiful girls.
  31. demo Rank
    demo
    +1
    11 August 2015 18: 41
    In his opinion, the refusal to cooperate with Russia in space programs allows us to hope that Washington will support Ukraine’s participation in the project. “We think that this cooperation will be mutually beneficial both for the American side and for Ukraine,” said Urusky.

    Exactly as cooperation of the reproductive organ with a condom, only a certain period of time is beneficial, and then - forgive, goodbye!
  32. X Y Z Rank
    X Y Z
    +2
    11 August 2015 19: 09
    In my opinion, it has long been clear to everyone that the Yuzhnoye Design Bureau could only successfully work in collaboration with relevant Russian enterprises, their experience and specialists. Work in autonomous mode inevitably leads to complete degradation, as in all well-known enterprises of the former Soviet republics. All the rest is just eating up the accumulated in Soviet times.
  33. Sanain Rank
    Sanain
    0
    11 August 2015 19: 16
    The latest US-Ukrainian experience with the Dragon shows that the United States would have to refuse this proposal.
  34. Old26 Rank
    Old26
    +4
    11 August 2015 19: 21
    Quote: veksha50
    For your information, the development of Yuzhnoye Design Bureau stopped just at the Governor and Scalpel, it was the second half of the 80s, that is, even before the collapse of the USSR ...

    To be precise, on "Icarus", "Ermak" and "Universal"

    Quote: VP
    They never did the first step but are going to teach amers.

    We were going. The carrier rocket "beacon" (purely Ukrainian, as always unrealized) with the RD-801 engine. "Planned" a whole family of ILV "Mayak" there are light launch vehicles ("Lighthouse-L1", "Lighthouse-L2") average ("Lighthouse-M1", "Lighthouse-M2") and heavy (Lighthouse-H3, Lighthouse-H5) classes.
    Pay attention to the notation.
    Even here, Ukrainians could not do without the interactions of the American classification. L (light) - light, M (medium) - medium and H (heavy) - heavy. Probably hoped that the Americans and Europeans would abandon their developments as one and would buy and fly exclusively on Ukrainian carriers
  35. avia1991 Rank
    avia1991
    +2
    11 August 2015 19: 22
    we understand that the US does not want to be dependent from foreign suppliers
    Yeah .. that is, he said, in fact, that the Outskirts are not a "foreign supplier" for the Americans, but their own territory!
    Well.. request there’s nothing to add.
    However, one can recall the recent catastrophe of the American rocket with the Ukrop engine: if this is called "far advanced in research" - it remains to wish further "fruitful cooperation" to the American Ukrop alliance! good
  36. Izotovp Rank
    Izotovp
    +1
    11 August 2015 19: 25
    It's just plain text: buy what’s left and let me shorten at least a button on the parade of the American astronaut.
  37. 1536 Rank
    1536
    0
    11 August 2015 19: 40
    "... the US doesn't want to be dependent on foreign suppliers."

    It is clear that Ukraine is no longer even a "foreign supplier" for the United States, but a real overseas territory. To what the plebeians are driving the country, as soon as they seize power.
  38. PPD Rank
    PPD
    0
    11 August 2015 20: 28
    Quote: Vasek Trubachev
    NASA and ESA Bank does not need a competitor in the person of Yuzhmash.
    I don’t know what they need and what isn’t there, but the face of this person is Yuzhmash ..... What’s with his skin is like devils threshed at night.
  39. Alex20042004 Rank
    Alex20042004
    +1
    11 August 2015 20: 44
    Quote: SuperCool
    Today she is dead and tomorrow she may become one of the strongest in the world! If they invest, then everything is possible !!!! And just the contract will be an investment !!!


    Wars, at present, go for: 1. - the market and 2. - natural resources.

    40% of export to Ukraine went to Russia. This market for dill failed.

    Dear dill, Mishka-Galstukoshvili recently said that Ukraine, at best, needs 20 years to reach the level of (Yanukovych) in 2012.
  40. dimunder Rank
    dimunder
    +1
    11 August 2015 20: 50
    Quote: Baikonur
    And also - the phrase:
    Kiev offered help to American ...
    laughing

    Soon they will help the whole world! "Exclusive NATION"


    Even more exceptional than the USA !!!
  41. Evgeny Khokhlov Rank
    Evgeny Khokhlov
    +2
    11 August 2015 20: 54
    I immediately remembered "AMERICA WITH US" laughing
  42. NordUral Rank
    NordUral
    0
    11 August 2015 21: 05
    The Americans giggled nervously.
  43. RuslanNN Rank
    RuslanNN
    +1
    11 August 2015 21: 10
    Quote: oleg-gr
    we have not produced before, but if you give the dough, we will do everything. for 10 years we will definitely do ...

    That’s for sure, for in 10 years either the kings will die or the donkey will die, just like in a joke.
  44. eaz Rank
    eaz
    +1
    11 August 2015 21: 18
    DON'T REMEMBER SUCH ANEKDOT Sakharov is asked why the hydrogen has so boasted? We all kind of calculated it. AND SHE HOW PICTURES PICDANET.
    .
  45. Valter1364 Rank
    Valter1364
    +1
    11 August 2015 21: 22
    "We are ready to consider any options for cooperation ..."

    Immediately a joke came to mind about Petka with Vasily Ivanovich, how they were looking for work in London:

    ... Vasily Ivanovich, maybe I’ll get something for something?
    Yes, no, Petka, everything is equipped here, only there is not enough wastebasket. Although, wait a minute, you’ll do it if you open your mouth wider.
  46. eaz Rank
    eaz
    0
    11 August 2015 21: 22
    I WRITE THE COMMENT THE FLAG OF ROMANIAN IS UPDATING THE SOVIET. WHAT FOR THE FIG. But THE SOVIET IS USING ROMANIAN NOT VERY
  47. eaz Rank
    eaz
    0
    11 August 2015 21: 24
    ROMANIAN AGAIN ... PEOPLE WILL NOT UNDERSTAND (
  48. Old26 Rank
    Old26
    +3
    11 August 2015 21: 26
    Quote: svp67
    "Cyclone" is the same as it is a demilitarized "Voevoda", like "Dnepr" and what is left?


    You are wrong, Sergei! "Cyclone" is not a demilitarized "Voivode". In principle, a dimilitarized "Voevoda" does not exist in nature.
    "Cyclone" is a "civilian" (demilitarized) version of the global (orbital) R-36 orb rocket. (R-36A, OR-36, 8K69).

    The Dnepr is also not a demilitarized version of the Voevoda, since it was created on the basis of the R-36M UTTH (15A18) ICBM. And the name "Voevoda" belongs exclusively to the R-36M2 (15A18M) ICBM. Discrepancies and discrepancies most often occur due to the fact that all three versions of the R-36M missile - the R-36M (15A14) itself, the R-36M UTTH (15A18) and the R-36M2 (15A18M) are combined in the west into the common name SS- 18 "Satan"
  49. eaz Rank
    eaz
    0
    11 August 2015 21: 34
    A HOW TO CHANGE ON THE IMPERIAL CHANGE ???
  50. gammipapa Rank
    gammipapa
    0
    11 August 2015 21: 44
    Let them do it; the Americans do not even imagine what cunning and greed their new natives possess. In a couple of years they will immediately spit at the mere mention of such partners.
  51. Alex_59 Rank
    Alex_59
    0
    11 August 2015 22: 05
    Ukrainians are unlikely to tell Americans anything new. For the USA, the point was precisely to buy a finished product. If you can’t buy, they will develop it themselves, without problems and without Ukraine.

    I remember an attempt to participate in a tender for US refueling aircraft, quickly finishing off the An-70 for this purpose. So where is the result?
  52. AVV Rank
    AVV
    0
    11 August 2015 22: 11
    Well! Well! Brazil and India took part in joint developments with dill, and they are still spitting!!!
  53. eaz Rank
    eaz
    0
    11 August 2015 22: 13
    good people, I’ve been reading the site for a long time, 4 years ago. I registered recently. I’m not a very experienced user... I fell asleep with spam... what should I do???
  54. pilot bin-bom Rank
    pilot bin-bom
    +1
    11 August 2015 22: 17
    About three years before the launch of the Energia-Buran Rocket Complex, the Kuznetsovites staged a bench display of the operation of engines for Energia. Why the Great Ukrov, I haven’t heard about such feats. Of course, the general engine layout is no secret, but the devil is in the details.
  55. Retvizan 8 Rank
    Retvizan 8
    +1
    11 August 2015 22: 31
    Ukraine will make rocket engines for “mattresses”, and the Baltic states can produce spacecraft themselves, since they have freed up capacity in the SPROTO production!
  56. sounddoc Rank
    sounddoc
    +1
    11 August 2015 22: 44
    Quote: SuperCool
    Today she is dead and tomorrow she may become one of the strongest in the world! If they invest, then everything is possible !!!! And just the contract will be an investment !!!

    #SOON:)
  57. eaz Rank
    eaz
    +1
    11 August 2015 23: 01
    what kind of nickname is supercrest,,.exceptional nation, what is it again...HOW did the WHOLE COUNTRY BECOME DE BI LA MI?
  58. Wolka Rank
    Wolka
    0
    12 August 2015 04: 46
    It was similar here in the dashing 90s, they sold everything, and more often for nothing for supposedly an image and access to the international market, and what... and now from the crests there is a serious claim of betrayal, expect troubles from them, they will sell your own mother, but they still won’t become richer; in a word, they are a rogue nation. The Yankees did not create anything themselves, they either stole or bought them, including the brains of scientists and design engineers, everything that America has today is the fruit of the work of immigrants for American money
  59. Zomanus Rank
    Zomanus
    0
    12 August 2015 06: 19
    Sometimes it seems to me. that the Ukrainians are specially trolling us. They'll come up with some nonsense, and here we are, tearing our ass off discussing it. It is clear that astronautics ended in Ukraine the moment they launched the Americans into Yuzhmash. I think that there was also a seizure of documentation and poaching of technologists. Well, after that Yuzhmash was used purely as an assembly site.
  60. BOB044 Rank
    BOB044
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    12 August 2015 09: 31
    “We are ready to consider any options for cooperation: we understand that the United States does not want to be dependent on foreign suppliers,” he said. “I think that something will be produced in the USA, something here, something we will produce together.” And where do they find such smart people on the land? We will produce something, something they will do. The United States is asleep and sees how to boost the economy of Ukraine, well, well. It’s not surprising if they are so smart at the helm, then the country is f..... big.