6 of the most incredible feats of Russian paratroopers who conquered the whole world

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6 of the most incredible feats of Russian paratroopers who conquered the whole world


On the day of the 85 anniversary of the Airborne Forces, we recall the heroes of the Airborne Forces.

"The blue splashed, splashed, spilled on vests, on the berets." Blue berets, vests, parachutes and blue sky - these are all indispensable attributes of the fighters of the already elite troops - airborne.

August 2 celebrate Airborne Forces Day across Russia. This year, the airborne troops celebrate their 85 anniversary. In all cities of Russia on the day of the Airborne Forces will be held celebrations.

In Moscow, the main action will unfold in Gorky Park: concerts, exhibitions, field kitchen, meetings of former colleagues and, of course, military equipment of the landing. Festivities will begin with the divine liturgy in the temple of Elijah the Prophet at the headquarters of the Airborne Forces and laying a flower to the memorials.

On this day, thousands of men of different ages in blue berets, vests and turquoise flags will bathe in the fountains and remember army years with their colleagues, and we will remember the immortal feats of Russian paratroopers.

Battle of the Pskov paratroopers in the Argun gorge

Speaking about the exploits of the Russian assault, it is impossible not to recall the incredibly tragic and equally heroic battle Pskov paratroopers in the Argun Gorge in February Chechne.29 - March 1 2000 years 6 fighters-th company 2-104 Battalion-th Guards Airborne Regiment of the Pskov division fought a heavy battle with militants under the command of Khattab at the height of 776 near the town of Argun in the central part of Chechnya. Two and a half thousand militants were opposed by 90 paratroopers, 84 of whom heroically fell in battle. Six soldiers remained alive. A company blocked the way for Chechen militants who were trying to break from the Argun gorge to Dagestan. The information about the death of an entire company was kept secret for a long time.



One can only guess what military men had to endure in this terrible battle. The fighters undermined themselves, already wounded, they threw themselves at the militants, not wanting to surrender. “It’s better to die than to surrender,” said company soldiers.

This follows from the protocol notes: "When the ammunition ran out, the paratroopers went into hand-to-hand combat and undermined themselves with grenades in the crowd of militants."

One such example is Senior Lieutenant Alexei Vorobyev, who destroyed the field commander Idris. Vorobyov was shattered by broken mines, one bullet hit in the stomach, the other in the chest, but he fought to the last. It is known that when in the morning of March 2 the 1-I company broke through to a height, the body of the lieutenant was still warm.



Our guys paid a big price for the victory, but they managed to stop the enemy, who was never able to escape from the gorge. Only 2500 survived from 500 fighters

The 22 fighter company received the title of Hero of Russia, 21 of them - posthumously, the rest became holders of the Order of Courage.

Mozhaysky landing

An example of the greatest courage and valor of the Russian landing can serve as a feat of the Siberian soldiers who died in the 1941 year near Mozhaisk in an unequal battle with the fascist troops.

It was a cold winter of 1941. The Soviet pilot, who was conducting a reconnaissance flight, saw that a column of enemy armored vehicles was moving towards Moscow, and there were no detachments or anti-tank weapons on its way. The Soviet command decided to throw before tanks landing.

When the commander came to the landing company of Siberians, who were brought to the nearest airfield, they were offered to jump from the aircraft directly into the snow. And it was necessary to jump without parachutes on a low-level flight. It is noteworthy that this was not an order, but a request, but all military personnel took a step forward.

The German soldiers were unpleasantly surprised to see low-flying aircraft, and then panicked at all when one of them people in white fur coats fell one after another. And there was no end to this stream. When it seemed that the Germans had already destroyed everyone, new planes with new fighters appeared.

The author of the novel "The Prince's Island" Yuri Sergeyev describes these events. "Russians were not visible in the snow, they seemed to grow out of the ground itself: fearless, furious and holy in retaliation, irresistible by no weapons. The fight was boiling and gurgling on the highway. The Germans killed almost everyone and were already happy about the victory, seeing a new convoy of tanks and motorized infantry catching up with them, when again a wave of airplanes crawled out of the forest and a white waterfall of fresh soldiers poured out of them, hitting the enemy in the fall ...

German columns were destroyed, only a few armored cars and cars escaped from this hell and rushed back, bringing mortal horror and mystical fear of fearlessness, will and spirit of the Russian soldier. After it turned out that when falling into the snow, only twelve percent of the landing took place.
The rest took an unequal battle. "

Documentary evidence of this stories not. Many believe that it, for some reason, is still classified, and others consider it a beautiful legend about the paratroopers' feat. However, when skeptics asked about this story of a famous Soviet intelligence officer and paratrooper, record-holder in the number of parachute jumps of Ivan Starchak, he did not question the reality of this story. The fact is that he himself and his fighters also landed near Moscow to stop the motorized convoy of opponents.

October 5, 1941, our Soviet intelligence discovered a 25-kilometer German motorized convoy, which was in full swing along the Warsaw highway in the direction of Yukhnov. 200 tanks, 20 thousand infantry in vehicles accompanied aviation and artillery posed a mortal threat to Moscow, to which 198 kilometers remained. There were no Soviet troops on this path. Only in Podolsk there were two military schools: infantry and artillery.



In order to give them time to take up defense, a small airborne assault commander under the command of captain Starchak was dropped. Of the 430 people, only 80 were experienced paratroopers, another 200 - from front-line aircraft and 150 - the newly arrived replenishment of Komsomol members, and all without guns, machine guns and tanks.

The paratroopers took up defense on the Ugra River, mined and blew up the roadbed and bridges along the German route, setting up ambushes. There is a case in which one of the groups attacked an airfield captured by the Germans, burned two TB-3 planes, and a third took them to Moscow. He was led by paratrooper Peter Balashov, who had never operated such aircraft before. He landed safely in Moscow on his fifth attempt.

But the forces were not equal, reinforcements came to the Germans. Within three days, only 430 survived from 29 people, including Ivan Starchak. Later to the Soviet military came help. Almost everyone was killed, but they did not let the fascists break through to Moscow. All were presented to the Order of the Red Banner, and Starchak to the Order of Lenin. Budyonny, the front commander, called Starchak "a desperate commander."

Then Starchak repeatedly entered the battle in the years of the Great Patriotic War, was wounded several times, but survived.

When one of his British colleagues asked him why the Russians did not surrender even in the face of death, although this was sometimes easier, he replied:

"In your opinion, this is fanaticism, but in our opinion, love for the land on which you grew up and which you exalted with work. Love for a country where you are the complete master. And the fact that Soviet fighters fight for the Motherland to the last bullet, to the last drops of blood, we consider the highest military and civil valor. "

Later Starchak wrote an autobiographical novel "From Heaven to Battle," in which he spoke about these events. Starchak died in the 1981 year at the age of 76 years, leaving behind an immortal feat worthy of legends.

Better death than captivity

Another famous episode in the history of the Soviet and Russian troops is the battle in the Old City of Herat during the war in Afghanistan. When 11 July 1985, a Soviet armored carrier hit a mine, only four people survived, led by junior sergeant V. Shimansky. They occupied the perimeter defense and decided under no circumstances to surrender, while the enemy wanted to capture the Soviet soldiers.

Surrounded by soldiers took an unequal battle. They had already run out of ammunition, the enemy squeezed into a tight ring, and there was no reinforcement. Then, in order not to fall into the hands of enemies, the commander ordered the fighters to shoot themselves.

They gathered under the burning armored troop-carrier, embraced, said good-bye and then each fired a machine gun at himself. The last commander shot. When Soviet reinforcements arrived, the four soldiers killed were lying next to the armored personnel carrier, where the enemies had dragged them. The surprise of the Soviet soldiers was great when they saw that one of them was alive. The machine gunner Teplyuk four bullets passed a few centimeters above the heart. It was he who later told about the last minutes of the life of the heroic crew.

Death of the Maravara Company

The death of the so-called Maravarian company during the 21 war in Afghanistan on April 1985 of the year is another tragic and heroic episode in the history of the Russian landing force.

The 1-I company of the Soviet special forces under the command of Captain Tsebruka was encircled in the Maravara gorge in the province of Kunar and was destroyed by the enemy.

It is known that the company carried out a training exit to the village of Sangam, located at the beginning of the Maravari gorge. There was no enemy in the village, however, the Mujahideen were seen in the depths of the gorge. When the men of the company began to pursue the enemy, they were ambushed. The company was divided into four groups and began to delve into the gorge.

Dushmans, who saw the enemy, entered the rear of the 1-th company blocked the way for the fighters to Daridam, where the 2-th and 3-th company were stationed, they set up posts armed with large-caliber DShK machine guns. The forces were not equal, and the ammunition that the special forces took with them to the training exit was enough for only a few minutes of the battle.



At the same time, a detachment was quickly formed in Asadabad, which went to the aid of an ambush company. The detachment reinforced by armored vehicles could not quickly cross the river and had to go around it, which took extra time. Three kilometers on the map turned into 23 on the land of Afghanistan stuffed with mines. Of the entire armored group in the direction of the Maravar, only one car broke through. This did not help the 1-th company, but saved the 2-th and 3-th company, which fought off the attacks of the Mujahideen.

In the second half of the day, 21, when the joint company and the armored group entered the Maravari gorge, the surviving fighters walked towards them, leading out and carrying out wounded comrades. They talked about the terrible massacre of enraged enemies with furious repulsions over the rest of the battlefield: they had their stomachs ripped up, their eyes were pierced, they burned alive.

The bodies of the dead soldiers were collected for two days. Many had to be identified by tricks and details of clothing. Some bodies had to be carried along with wicker couches on which the soldiers were tortured. In a battle in the Maravari Gorge, a Soviet soldier was killed 31.

12-hour battle 9-th company

The feat of domestic paratroopers, immortalized not only by history, but also by cinema, was the battle of the 9 Company of the 345 Guards separate parachute regiment for the dominant height of 3234 in the city of Khost during the war in Afghanistan.

A company of paratroopers as part of 39 man entered the battle, trying to keep 7 January 1988 of the year from the Mujahideen 200. The enemy (according to various data 400-XNUMX people) intended to bring down the guard from the dominant height and open access to the road Gardez-Host.



The enemy opened fire on the positions of Soviet troops from recoilless guns, mortars, small arms and grenade launchers. Just a day before three in the morning, the Mujahideen launched 12 attacks, the last of which was critical. The enemy managed to get as close as possible, but at this time, the reconnaissance platoon of the 9 th paratroop battalion, which delivered the ammunition, broke through to help the 3 company. This decided the outcome of the battle, the Mujahideen, suffering serious losses, began to retreat. As a result of the twelve-hour battle to capture the height failed.

9 soldiers were killed in the 6 Company, 28 were injured.

This story formed the basis of the famous film by Fyodor Bondarchuk "9 Company", which tells about the valor of Soviet soldiers.

Vyazemsky operation of the Soviet landing

Every year in Russia they recall the feat of Soviet paratroopers. Among them, the so-called Vyazemsky airborne operation. This is a Red Army operation on the landing of German troops in the rear of the Rzhev-Vyazma offensive, which was carried out from January 18 to February 28 1942, in order to assist the forces of the Kalinin and Western fronts surrounded by a part of the forces of the German Army Group Center.

No one conducted airborne operations of such magnitude during the Great Patriotic War. To this end, a VNYMX airborne corps, numbering more than 4 thousand people, was parachuted under Vyazma. The corps commander, Major-General A.F. Levashov.

January 27 advanced landing assault force commanded by Captain M.Ya. Karnaukhova was thrown behind the front line on dozens of aircraft. Then for the next six days the 8-I airborne brigade with a total of about 2100 people was parachuted into the rear of the enemy.



However, the overall situation at the front for the Soviet troops was difficult. Part of the landed paratroopers merged with the operating units, and the landing of the remaining fighters was postponed.

A few weeks later the 4 th battalion of the 8 th airborne brigade, as well as units of the 9 th and 214 th brigade, landed in the enemy's rear. In total, in January-February 1942 of the year, over Smolensk land was parachuted over 10 thousand people, 320 mortars, 541 machine gun, 300 anti-tank guns. All this happened with an acute shortage of transport aircraft, in difficult climatic and weather conditions, with strong opposition from the enemy.

Unfortunately, to solve the tasks assigned to the paratroopers, and failed, because the enemy was very strong.

Fighters 4 th airborne corps, which had only light weapons and a minimum of food, ammunition, had to fight in the rear of the enemy for a long five months.

After the war, the former Hitlerite officer A. Gové in the book "Attention, parachutists!" I was forced to admit: “The Russian paratroopers landed for many days kept the forest in their hands and, lying at 38-degree frost on the pine branches laid right on the snow, fought off all German attacks that were improvised at first. Only with the support of those arriving from Vyazma German self-propelled guns and dive bombers managed to free the road from the Russians. "

These are just a few examples of the feats of Russian and Soviet paratroopers, which not only cause pride among compatriots, but also the respect of enemies who bow to the courage of "these Russian in vests."
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  1. psf
    +133
    3 August 2015 06: 35
    a march to Pristina in 1999 is also akin to a feat)
    1. +42
      3 August 2015 07: 41
      this is a feat.
      1. +13
        4 August 2015 20: 07
        Information about the death of the 6th company for a long time was hidden due to direct betrayal in the highest echelons of power, and command. Why there was no artillery cover, air cover. Our children, fathers and brothers for the ruling elite is garbage, although they themselves are brainless robbed of their own people. They suck blood from the people like bugs.
        1. +1
          4 August 2015 21: 17
          Are you about the 6th company in Afghanistan? (look goblin in youtube he collected information about that battle)
    2. +15
      3 August 2015 10: 05
      Quote: psf
      a march to Pristina in 1999 is also akin to a feat)

      With language removed.
    3. +19
      4 August 2015 13: 17
      and Yunusbek Yevkurov, the current head of Ingushetia, commanded a march to Pristina
      1. +3
        4 August 2015 21: 11
        Quote: dobryak19
        and Yunusbek Yevkurov, the current head of Ingushetia, commanded a march to Pristina

        Not true, Yevkurov was already at the airport, which he captured, he commanded a detachment consisting of GRU fighters.
    4. -8
      4 August 2015 18: 12
      A couple more feats. http://oyblogg.blogspot.com/
      1. 0
        4 August 2015 20: 41
        Here is a handsome man! So toughly put everyone in their place! I wish I had such a fool! wassat How many, excuse me, did the players die there? crying
      2. +2
        4 August 2015 22: 20
        Then why were the "cyborgs" defeated by the miners?
        1. +3
          5 August 2015 11: 32
          Do you doubt that the miners who were undergoing urgent and not only service in the USSR could not break the "cyborgs" Yes , and they became cyborgs only thanks hi , ordinary warriors with the support or at detachments of Nazi fanatics soldier !
          1. 0
            5 August 2015 21: 49
            This is not the case. It was simply said in a remote message that the entire composition of the Russian Airborne Forces was destroyed in Novorossia.
  2. +15
    3 August 2015 06: 44
    Keep it up men !!!!!
  3. +50
    3 August 2015 06: 54
    I serve in reconnaissance - Alpine company of special forces. On the basis of our division, training sessions of all special units of Kazakhstan for mountain training are constantly held. So, as the paratroopers themselves admit, they check mountains better than jumps, there it is enough to overcome yourself for a second, in the mountains this is not enough. In addition, with the current state of air defense systems, the drop of parachute assault forces has more practical value, like hand-to-hand combat. The Airborne Forces are certainly the elite of the army and inspire thousands of boys, but modern warfare is a "team sport".
    1. 0
      4 August 2015 20: 44
      I suspect ten years will pass and there will be no automatic machines, we will fight on tablets ...
    2. 0
      4 August 2015 23: 08
      Airborne course elite army


      At least the airborne troops themselves believe that among different branches of the armed forces, with different tasks, they are an elite laughing
  4. +30
    3 August 2015 07: 12
    Bright memory and eternal glory to the heroes!
  5. +14
    3 August 2015 07: 45
    In early August 1941, troops of the 3rd Airborne Division began arriving near Kiev. Before the brigades of the corps, the combat mission was set - to clear the outskirts of Kiev from the Nazis, throw them away from the walls of the city. The corps entered the battle brigadely. Parts of the body directly from the march were thrown into a counterattack. The first combat baptism was received by the 6th brigade commander (commander Colonel V.G. Zholudev). On the afternoon of August 6, 1941, the 6th Armed Forces battalion came into contact with the enemy. She and the 206th SD received the task of helping the troops of the Kiev fortified area stop, and then decisively defeating the enemy strike group.
    At dawn on August 7, paratroopers of the brigade and foot soldiers of the weakened 206th regiment, together with the 147th and 175th rifle divisions and the 2nd armored brigade, launched a counterattack against the enemy near Kanev with the support of artillery and aircraft. In the midst of the battle on August 17, 1941, fighters of the 3rd Airborne Corps learned that the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine and the Council of People's Commissars of the Ukrainian SSR had warmly thanked them for the heroic defense of Kiev and that the People’s Commissar of Defense of the USSR had sent greetings and thanks.
    At the end of August 1941, the 3rd Airborne Corps was withdrawn from the battlefield to the front reserve and transferred to fulfill the new combat mission in the Konotop direction, where the enemy was pulling together large forces of tanks and infantry.
    In early September 1941, the 3rd Airborne Corps (commander Colonel A.F. Levashov) was given the task of concentrating in the area of ​​Konotop and being ready to take up defense on the Seim River. In this regard, the corps forced the march by car was transferred to the area of ​​Sakhny, Popovka, Konotop.
    On the basis of the order of the front commander, the corps headquarters developed a combat order, according to which parts of the corps took up defense: the 6th airborne brigade - on the site of Khizhki, Novoselye-Mutino, Volchik; 212nd - at the turn of Novoselye-Mutino, Gnilitsa; The 5th prepared defense in the region of the railway bridge north of Konotop, Sarnovshchina, concentrating the main efforts in the Lizogubovsky farm.
    With the occupation of defense along the Seim River, the 3rd Airborne Corps became part of the 40th Army.
  6. -159
    3 August 2015 08: 01
    all the "heroic" deeds of the "warriors of the color of the sky" are either unconfirmed myths or skirmishes of a handful against a handful of the enemy
    1. +19
      3 August 2015 08: 06
      skirmishes heaps versus heaps

      wow ... but you can roughly imagine what it means to destroy a company of paratroopers fixed at a height?
    2. +38
      3 August 2015 08: 35
      Dear, did you at least do something? Just in life? And the guys gave their lives and did not ask who needed it. They were better silent
      1. -76
        3 August 2015 08: 44
        just ordinary motorized riflemen did much more in wars than these "heroes"
        1. +10
          4 August 2015 15: 33
          Hello. This article does not mean that there are heroes only in the Airborne Forces. The country celebrates the day when this branch of the army officially appeared in the army (in the ranks, structure), and even more so there is no statement that in other branches of the armed forces of the Russian Federation no or fewer heroes. If we are to be honest, I must say this: "any feat of a soldier is a general miscalculation." I hope to argue, do not wake up that a soldier pays for such miscalculations in blood.
        2. +4
          4 August 2015 20: 46
          That will be the day of the motorized rifle, and they will write about their exploits. Why is this vyser?
        3. wax
          +2
          4 August 2015 21: 25
          That is, the heroes are nothing, but the mass is everything?
          1. wax
            0
            4 August 2015 21: 53
            It was written by Turanchox. (Download failed)
      2. +17
        3 August 2015 23: 46
        Why are you doing this? What a respected he is, even if the nickname was taken by the idiot "Turanchoks" ...
        A typical stupid goblin and a fat troll with one goal: to fuck.
        1. +2
          4 August 2015 16: 25
          the person most likely wanted to say that there are heroes everywhere .. and there will be a day of ground forces there will be an article about Russian heroes motorized rifle
    3. +9
      3 August 2015 09: 10
      You seem to be a whistle-blower ..? .. Well, debunk the secrets of "black magic" .. Only in this way, with a well-grounded commentary .. And not the way you write .. in the style of "himself du.r.ak."
    4. +15
      3 August 2015 10: 03
      It happened that you send some turanchox, and then you worry, I didn’t get it.
      1. 0
        4 August 2015 12: 18
        Turanchox will reach ... there is nowhere else to go ... bully
    5. The comment was deleted.
    6. +9
      3 August 2015 10: 33
      - Is your statement confirmed by anything? Kindly provide facts refuting the article (facts).
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      2. -50
        3 August 2015 11: 19
        all the main operations in wars have been and are being carried out by other types of ground forces, and the airborne assault is promoted on actions that have no strategic, and often tactical significance ..

        the country needs heroes, that’s what made them so .. although real heroes are just infantry
        1. +31
          3 August 2015 15: 10
          Real heroes are those who have committed a heroic deed. What's in the infantry, what's in the navy, no difference. Just the regular tasks facing the Airborne Forces border on insanity in terms of the instinct of self-preservation. The risk of death is much higher than that of a motorized infantry. And yes, a 1 to 25 ratio in the Argun Gorge to withstand is not a feat, is it? This is 100% resistance of the troops. Another search for such wolfhounds on planet Earth is necessary in order to gain a company.
          1. 0
            4 August 2015 11: 41
            (C) The real heroes are those who committed a heroic deed.

            This was enough, it was not worth it about regular tasks ... Not only the Airborne Forces, they border on madness.
          2. +6
            4 August 2015 12: 05
            Quote: Oznob
            And yes, a 1 to 25 ratio in the Argun Gorge to withstand is not a feat, is it?

            28 Panfilovites. Garrison of the Brest Fortress. Defense battery Alexandrova. Tankers Scattering. The battle of Horovets. This is so, the most famous vaping when to engage in battle with an overwhelmingly superior opponent was beyond insanity. And the paratroopers who took the battle were not, just Russian soldiers.
            1. -5
              5 August 2015 10: 20
              Check out this page of the official website of the State Archive of the Russian Federation - http://www.statearchive.ru/607
              And you will be unpleasantly amazed by the story about "Panfilov's 28"!
              1. -1
                5 August 2015 22: 29
                It is possible that some historical events will be distorted in the description. However, according to my observations, if the distortion occurs in the direction of the colorful descriptions of the sadist and the fool Stalin, the devourer of ballerinas Beria, ghouls-NKVDshnikov and guards who shoot their own soldiers from machine guns in the back of the head - this is not an exaggeration, not an impudent lie, not an abominable and heinous crime against own country, people and historical memory, worthy of slow dismemberment and simultaneous frying, but just a directorial vision of historical events.
                But as soon as someone tries to say that the Soviet soldiers are the best warriors in the world, capable of tearing apart any enemy, and even if they die, but still remain undefeated, a fecal fanatic of all human beings, liberals and progressive perverts of all nationalities immediately breaks out .
                "It wasn't!" "It's all lies!" "Scoops are not people, but stupid!" "They were driven out of the trenches with machine guns!" "They jumped under the tanks with grenades out of fear of the gebney!"
                Obviously, all these scum of humanity project their own cowardice, meanness and selfishness on other people.
                It is incomprehensible why they pour mud on the country that grew them and gave them (and their parents) all the possible and impossible benefits ...
                Bondarchuk, Mikhalkov, the authors of "Bastards", "Penal Battles", and other "Stalingrad", actors, forever soiled themselves with participation in this desecration of the history of Russia ... What prompted you all to such a heinous lie about your own homeland?
                One thing is clear. This scum does not deserve such a blessing as life.
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        3. +5
          4 August 2015 17: 04
          here we are pulling the armed forces into the infantry - airborne forces-navy and so on, and this is our army - our guys

          and regardless of the type of troops, they adequately represent their country - already a new RUSSIA
        4. 0
          4 August 2015 20: 50
          Shabby girls
      3. +9
        3 August 2015 18: 35
        A citizen just wants a skull for shoulder straps, like a "villain of the first rank."
    7. -2
      3 August 2015 18: 26
      I do not agree.
      Landing, basically trained guys,
      just how to use a precision tool
      can be like a scalpel, but you can instead of a hammer ...
      In 1981, in the fall, participated in a parade in Tbilisi,
      as always, "screws", sorry, but that's what we called the employees of the Soviet Army,
      torn to the flag, took first place.
      Dembelem, an early demobilization, and we were promised a vacation.
      He arrived at the outpost, he was an excellent pupil Border Guards, we recorded the whole set of signs
      in the military ID, simply because he was walking in the first row of the first box, they also slipped the epaulettes of the foreman. He came and drank "compote", and the next morning he was sent for the "river".
      They put a lot of disciplines into the mountains, and Ryazan is not mountains, we used to run at an altitude of 3500, shot 25 rounds twice a month, in the interaction of the squad.
      That was the case.
    8. +8
      3 August 2015 19: 18
      Duranchox - here VO and not classmates - kanay otsel
    9. 0
      4 August 2015 12: 16
      ok from the moonpark ..... am
    10. +2
      4 August 2015 15: 46
      Quote from the movie "Shooter" (2007):
      "When you shoot for a couple of kilometers, I somehow don't want to go to confirm it later. Confirmation - the rear rats are concerned."

      Here is about the same. Not until confirmation. In addition, 75-80% of operations in which the Airborne Forces are involved, are classified as "secret" or "top secret" for 10 to 75 years. Even after 10 years it is difficult to prove anything.
    11. +1
      4 August 2015 16: 56
      Well, since such a frisky refute documented. No, slam your mouth
    12. 0
      4 August 2015 20: 34
      Yes, you are a bunch.
    13. +5
      4 August 2015 22: 24
      Turanchoks is a character in the film "Through the Thorns to the Stars" (scriptwriter Kir Bulychev). This is an evil dwarf, a cruel dictator, a despotic tyrant, who sold clean air to people and profited from it.
    14. +4
      5 August 2015 03: 08
      Wimp over !!!
    15. 0
      5 August 2015 18: 09
      do you in principle always oppose normal people? If only not like everyone else? As the saying goes: - "in spite of the ears frostbite"?
    16. 0
      5 August 2015 18: 55
      Well, you are a "hero" unambiguously, this fact is beyond doubt ... just write what you are, what you have achieved, to talk about the myths of the Russian army.
  7. +34
    3 August 2015 08: 12
    The company in the Argun Gorge accomplished a feat, the guys made a big mistake for someone, not only to the militants, but also to some of their own. Until now, there are a lot of inconsistencies and white spots, more like betrayal, but the boys fought to the brim them!
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      1. +3
        3 August 2015 15: 12
        Duc art supported.
        1. +9
          3 August 2015 15: 19
          Quote: Oznob
          Duc art supported.

          Arta began to peck when the guys had already called fire on themselves.
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      3. +3
        4 August 2015 12: 23
        Someone grabbed the dough at headquarters ... am
  8. +3
    3 August 2015 08: 28
    29 February - 1 March 2000 year fighters of the 6 company of the 2 battalion of the 104 guards paratroop regiment of the Pskov division fought with fighters under the command of Khattab at 776 altitude in the vicinity of the city of Argun in the central part of Chechnya.
    In the vicinity of Argun? According to the map, as if from this height to Argun about 40 km.
    1. +6
      3 August 2015 09: 02
      Yes, an error in the article. Exactly the same as the battle was not in the Argun gorge, but several kilometers east.
    2. 0
      4 August 2015 14: 16
      There is also the Argun River 148 km long
  9. +8
    3 August 2015 08: 48
    Amazing! These people are made of steel.
  10. +13
    3 August 2015 09: 25
    Thank you for the article!!!! ETERNAL MEMORY OUR!
  11. +8
    3 August 2015 09: 46
    They are brought up like that, they are ELITE! Because their spirit is so high, the desire for victory and self-sacrifice ... Eternal memory to the fallen children ...
    1. +1
      4 August 2015 12: 08
      Quote: Sochi
      they are ELITE!

      And where have the guards units gone? have degenerated?
    2. -3
      5 August 2015 01: 22
      When someone calls some kind of army, they call an elite somewhere a military man who, unlike the first one, knows wonderfully that there are no and cannot be any elite military branches.
  12. +13
    3 August 2015 09: 51
    some one, apparently not finished off in battles with paratroopers ok, put a minus. Well done paratroopers !!
  13. +16
    3 August 2015 10: 28
    About Mozhaisk landing. "There is no documentary evidence of this story. Many believe that for some reason it is still classified, while others consider it a beautiful legend about the feat of the paratroopers. However, when skeptics asked about this story, the famous Soviet intelligence officer and paratrooper, parachute jumps of Ivan Starchak, he did not question the reality of this story. The fact is that he himself and his fighters also landed in Moscow to stop the motorized column of opponents. "
    Recently I wrote about this case / legend (to whom it is more correct) and many doubted the possibility of landing without a parachute. At least confirmation of this possibility from the mouth of a veteran who participated in such an operation puts everything in its place! Glory to the Airborne Forces!
    1. -41
      3 August 2015 11: 25
      among the veterans there are also a lot of hochmachi .. I’ve heard from the grandfathers in the village of my grandfather about the war - Petrosyan is resting
      1. +1
        5 August 2015 16: 29
        And your grandfather who fought for Vlasov or Bandera? If at all fought.
    2. +6
      3 August 2015 13: 27
      Quote: klev72
      About Mozhaisk landing. "There is no documentary evidence of this story. Many believe that for some reason it is still classified, while others consider it a beautiful legend about the feat of the paratroopers. However, when skeptics asked about this story, the famous Soviet intelligence officer and paratrooper, parachute jumps of Ivan Starchak, he did not question the reality of this story. The fact is that he himself and his fighters also landed in Moscow to stop the motorized column of opponents. "
      Recently I wrote about this case / legend (to whom it is more correct) and many doubted the possibility of landing without a parachute. At least confirmation of this possibility from the mouth of a veteran who participated in such an operation puts everything in its place! Glory to the Airborne Forces!

      In the above quote, the veteran does not say that he also landed without a parachute, but that he was also landed to stop the enemy’s motorized convoy. This follows from his further words about the landing in October 1941. It is unlikely that he would have survived if he had been dropped without a parachute at this time of year
      1. +3
        4 August 2015 12: 57
        Legend ... But technically landing from an airplane without a parachute and without much risk to life is quite possible. Take for example the An-2 plane. Corncob Its lowest flight speed is only 40km / h. That is, at this speed, the aircraft is fairly confident in the air and is controlled by the pilot. With a headwind of more than 40 km / h, experienced Corn pilots are able to hover the car in the air over one place and even move their tail forward. And the wind speed of 40 km / h is just 6.6 m / s. This is not even a fresh wind. This is an ordinary wind that walks quite a good day in the fields. Duzha hat from the head does not tear!
        1. +5
          4 August 2015 22: 34
          Actually, the An-2 has a stall speed of 110 km / h. And about the hang, and even the movement of the tail forward - from whom did you hear this nonsense?
          Quote: Vlad74 Q
          Its lowest flight speed is only 40km / h. That is, at this speed, the aircraft is fairly confident in the air and is controlled by the pilot.

          The name of this "pilot" in the studio, please!
          1. 0
            5 August 2015 23: 02
            Here you are ! Not only the name but also the full source of this statement.
            Ershov, V.V. Aeromania = Stories of a riding dog. - M .: Eksmo, 2008 .-- 384 p. - 6000 copies. - ISBN 978-5-699-30917-7.
            I myself relate to aviation only buttonholes. For this reason, I can talk about certain operational qualities of equipment based only on the experience and opinion of the pilots.

            Are you ready to refute the personal experience of Vasily Vasilyevich Ershov?

            We are ready to hear your arguments.
        2. 0
          5 August 2015 00: 48
          Put +. It’s so cool!
          1. 0
            5 August 2015 08: 41
            Quote: Sinbad
            Put +. It’s so cool!

            Well yes. Just like in the joke: "Three jumped out, and five jumped."
            Although in reality everything was much more tragic ...
    3. +3
      4 August 2015 18: 46
      Quote: klev72
      About Mozhaisk landing. "There is no documentary evidence of this story. Many believe that for some reason it is still classified, while others consider it a beautiful legend about the feat of the paratroopers. However, when skeptics asked about this story, the famous Soviet intelligence officer and paratrooper, parachute jumps of Ivan Starchak, he did not question the reality of this story. The fact is that he himself and his fighters also landed in Moscow to stop the motorized column of opponents. "
      Recently I wrote about this case / legend (to whom it is more correct) and many doubted the possibility of landing without a parachute. At least confirmation of this possibility from the mouth of a veteran who participated in such an operation puts everything in its place! Glory to the Airborne Forces!

      without parachutes, this is a crazy myth, and the point is not that there wasn’t meters of snow near Mozhaisk on 5 in October, it wasn’t at all ....

      here is a shot from a German newsreel of the beginning of October at the Mozhaisk UR.
      not because the jump on the 120 km / h, from the height of the 5 floor, with a load of 40 kg is fatal.
      and not because there were no mythical Siberian paratroopers.
      why I will say below.


      There is no documentary evidence of this story. Many believe that she, for some reason, is still classified, while others consider her a beautiful legend about the feat of paratroopers. However, when skeptics asked about the story of the famous Soviet intelligence officer and paratrooper, the record holder in the number of skydiving Ivan Starchak, he did not question the reality of this story

      well a reptile, well, shame on you, but ...

      Starchak, Ivan Georgievich
      From heaven to battle
      Website "Military literature": militera.lib.ru
      Edition: Starchak I. G. From the sky - into battle. - M .: Military Publishing House, 1965.

      During the years of the past war, the landing of fighters from such low altitudes * misled the enemy. This is evidenced by the book of Hitler’s officer Alkmar von Gove, “Attention, parachutists!” In it [157], he claims that in addition to the usual drop-off, the Russians in the Yelny and Dorogobuzh area used a new, typically Russian method: transport aircraft from low-level flights poured out infantrymen with weapons directly into the snowdrifts without parachutes. Deep snow softened the blow, and most of the soldiers did not receive any damage.
      As a participant in the events in question, I can confirm that we really threw ourselves from low altitudes *. But as for jumping directly into the snow, let the author try to make them himself.


      * about low heights *
      And yet he also did not resolve the main issue. The way out was found when we received a new parachute with manual and forced opening. My colleague, master of sports of the USSR, senior lieutenant Stepan Gavrilov jumped with this system from seventy meters high. It happened in conAll April 1941 years at the airport near Minsk. Following Gavrilov, a group of instructors landed from a hundred-meter height.
      Further experiments showed that for well-trained paratroopers, jumping from a hundred to two hundred and fifty meters is quite safe.
  14. +8
    3 August 2015 10: 50
    Key from Starchak: love of the country where you are the complete master
  15. +8
    3 August 2015 10: 52
    The main and most important resource of our country is people. Other countries will not be able to boast of such examples.
    But one episode haunts me
    It is known that the company carried out a training exit in the village of Sangam
    What the hell could a TRAINING EXIT on the territory of a hostile state ?! They would have been given blank cartridges !!!
    1. +4
      3 August 2015 11: 45
      prav.every exit, leaving the territory of a deployment point in such conditions is considered combat.
      the article is written strangely
    2. +2
      3 August 2015 19: 52
      Quote: killganoff
      The main and most important resource of our country is people. Other countries will not be able to boast of such examples.
      But one episode haunts me
      It is known that the company carried out a training exit in the village of Sangam
      What the hell could a TRAINING EXIT on the territory of a hostile state ?! They would have been given blank cartridges !!!


      Officers and personnel only arrived in Afghanistan and did not have combat experience, this was their first exit and no one suggested them, did not advise how to act correctly so that the command’s fault was there. For the mistakes of commanders in the war, soldiers are paid with blood for cohabitation.
      1. 0
        3 August 2015 19: 59
        what do you answer? he says what Madame-author calls "training" the exit of our unit on the territory of Afghanistan
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  17. +22
    3 August 2015 11: 31
    The death of the Maravar company is a criminal negligence of the command.
    the battalion walked along the bottom of the gorge without occupying the dominant heights.
    He served in OKSVA 1983-1985. and I know about this fight.
    1. +9
      3 August 2015 12: 01
      Quote: mik667
      The death of the Maravar company is a criminal negligence of the command.



      There were thousands of such criminal negligence (if not betrayal) of the command ..
      You don’t have to go far - take hostilities in Chechnya ...
    2. 0
      6 August 2015 01: 59
      To begin with, 334 ooSPn is not related to the Airborne
  18. +12
    3 August 2015 11: 40
    I don’t want to belittle the heroic deed of our guys, but during the Battle at an altitude of 776, 2000 militants were not killed, and 2500-400 were killed for a turnover of 500 militants. Please correct this typo
  19. +12
    3 August 2015 11: 55
    It was possible to mention other heroic events in the article, for example, paratroopers played a very important role in the events of 1968 in Czechoslovakia, their participation in the storming of Amin’s palace in 1979, the evacuation of the embassy from Kabul, when the Taliban stormed the city, then in my opinion there’s one -76 burned out .... I agree, the throw to Pristina was just super operation .. yes, and the whole history of the Airborne Forces of the USSR and Russia is by and large a feat, you guys are happy with the holiday!
    1. +2
      3 August 2015 23: 26
      Quote: Andrey VOV
      , their participation in the storming of Amin's palace in 1979


      Amin’s palace, didn’t Alpha storm?
      1. +4
        4 August 2015 02: 05
        Quote: Kombrig
        Amin’s palace, didn’t Alpha storm?

        Alpha stormed, and the paratroopers supported the fire. And they had losses.
      2. +1
        4 August 2015 12: 37
        Quote: Kombrig
        Amin’s palace, didn’t Alpha storm?

        Quote: Rivares
        Alpha stormed, and the paratroopers supported the fire. And they had losses.

        Is it true that you won one hundred rubles in preference?
        -Truth. Only not one hundred rubles but three kopecks, not in preference but in dominoes, did not win but lost.
  20. +13
    3 August 2015 12: 40
    The battle of the 6th company of the 2nd battalion of the 104th guards paratrooper regiment of the Pskov division. In my personal opinion, every last guy and the living and the dead there deserve the title of Hero of Russia. 90 people against 2000, this is akin to the feat of 6000 paratroopers in 1941, who kept the entire shock group of Gudarian breaking through to Tula.
    Eternal memory of the fallen Heroes. Airborne Forces !!! FORWARD!!!!
  21. +4
    3 August 2015 14: 00
    the commander ordered the soldiers to shoot themselves.
    Full nonsense!
    1. +5
      3 August 2015 20: 33
      this line also warped, maybe they decided or suggested, but didn’t order it.
  22. +5
    3 August 2015 15: 32
    Guys, of course, are heroes! Many things have not been fully studied and there is more than one question - what are the reasons why these soldiers had to become heroes ... There are many versions - up to the betrayal of the General Staff officers. However - these are all words and conjectures.
    But why, describing such serious moments in the tragic history of the Airborne Forces, did the author take such a populist title of the article? "6 most incredible feats Russian the paratroopers who conquered the whole world"
    Why precisely and exclusively Russian? In the USSR, the Airborne Forces were taken only on the national basis ?? Ukrainians, Belarusians and other representatives of the peoples of the USSR did not serve in the Airborne Forces ??? The author deliberately leaves out soldiers of non-Russian nationality (meaning the period of the USSR). This is no longer patriotism - it is a crossing out of the common past and pulling the blanket solely on oneself, as well as I saw the cartoon "Once upon a time there was a dog" (Russia, 1982) on one Internet resource of online films. Maybe it's not Russia but the USSR after all? And not Russian paratroopers fought until 1991. and Soviet?
    Who besides those involved in the events, military intelligence, analysts, historians and information lovers of this kind worldwide knows about it ??? I do not want to belittle the heroism of people, but the pretentious words and headlines in the style of the glamorous "MUZ-TV" about the "world famous rapper" are disgusting. Best the enemy of the good. Trying to convey to the public the feat of real heroes, the author oversaturated the title with pomp and as a result, instead of strong sweet coffee, a sugary heap was obtained.
    There were more feats, you can recall the same throw on the ground in Pristina (here it has been written about it more than once in the comments) or the "work" of our guys in Vietnam. But even the listed examples show that real heroes serve in the Airborne Forces. GLORY TO THE HEROES, ALIVE AND DIE!
    1. +3
      3 August 2015 18: 40
      Belarusians. You are not RUSSIAN, and you are not from the USSR? Indeed, in those years we were all one country of the USSR and did not think. That the brothers Belarusians, Ukrainians, Uzbeks. Moldavians, Tajiks. Turkmens, Georgians, ..... Were we not one great country?
      By the command of now trying to be the sovereign of the world of fs that have ruined our state and are still waving their clubs around the world?
      We got up from our knees. And there will be PEACE and not war.
      1. +2
        4 August 2015 08: 47
        Belarusians. You are not RUSSIAN, and you are not from the USSR? - a similar question - Latvian, but you are not Estonian ?? What, doesn't that sound silly?
        I was born and raised in the BSSR - a union republic Soviet Union and was in those days soviet I was not a citizen, a Russian then and am not now either by nationality or citizenship.
        Dear Pissaro wrote below: "Commander of the Airborne Forces Margelov once replied to your remark:" it does not matter what kind of eye shape and skin tone you have, for the enemy we are all Russians. " This is an analogue of how we call the inhabitants of Great Britain the British, although the same Scots do not agree with this and once I was even warned before talking with a representative of the company from Glasgow that I would not in any way even accidentally make it clear in the conversation that the British and the Scots - these are the same people. A resident of United Kindom - yes, but not an Englishman!
        Both friends and enemies could call all the inhabitants of the USSR Russian — this is their business (there are objective reasons for this), but respect their neighbor’s own national position (and even more so at the present time, when it smacks of a big fight).
      2. +2
        4 August 2015 21: 25
        We were a power, not a country! Russians were Russians, Ukrainians were Ukrainians, Georgians were Georgians, but we were together, we were brothers. But Coca-Cola appeared. Thanks to everybody, you're free...
    2. +7
      3 August 2015 23: 06
      Commander of the Airborne Forces Margelov once replied to your remark: "it does not matter what kind of eye shape and skin tone you have, for the enemy we are all Russians"
    3. +4
      4 August 2015 02: 13
      Quote: Aboriginal
      Ukrainians, Belarusians and other representatives of the peoples of the USSR did not serve in the Airborne Forces ???

      White Russia and the Outskirts of Russia now in your logic do not apply to the Russians?
      And at the expense of other nationalities, for some reason they refused to become the successors of the USSR, and they did not take on the debts of the union, although the Union built a lot of things in the republics .... as we are independent debts, and how to share glory only for.
      1. 0
        4 August 2015 09: 04
        White Russia and the Outskirts of Russia now in your logic do not apply to the Russians? No do not apply. Each region you have listed has gained the opportunity of self-determination, and at present we are all not a single national entity. Let's not get into the jungle of history and study the relations between tribes, peoples and subsequently countries on the territory of Eastern Europe (where the first large city came to be - Kiev, which language is currently as close as possible to Old Slavic - Belarusian, etc.) - this may lead to misunderstanding.
        We need to start from what we have at present: we are neighbors, we are brothers, but not the same nation. An attempt to declare all the Eastern Slavs exclusively Russian will come up against very understandable resistance, and then we can’t talk about friendship and brotherhood at all - this is a centuries-old method of demarcating federal entities, and that’s exactly what we must not allow now!
        1. +3
          4 August 2015 09: 18
          listen, why is it incorrect to say "Russian army" and "Russian soldier", but normal "Belarusian soldiers", "Belarusian army", "Belarusian athletes" .... do not you live, do not serve, do not work other people nationalities? can you also introduce the term "Belarusian", or "Belarusian", well, so as not to offend anyone?
          1. +1
            4 August 2015 09: 56
            Who told you, dear, that
            Quote: Gleb
            it is incorrect to say "Russian army" and "Russian soldier"
            ? This is not only correct but also correct! But only if we are talking about the current army, then corrected not for nationality, but for belonging, we need to write not "Russian army" but "Russian army" (you can check it at the Vinogradov Institute, if you don’t believe me).
            But if we are talking about the time of the existence of the USSR, then there was no "Russian" or "Belarusian" or "Armenian" - there was only one Secular army in a single federal state - the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. And the troops and soldiers were - Soviet and not Russian / Russian.
            Naturally, not only Russians serve in the current Russian army - the peoples of the entire multinational country are represented there. But it is called "Russian" because of its belonging to the country - Russia (Russian Federation).
            1. +3
              4 August 2015 10: 35
              about the present? and when was it to the place? was it not at the time of Suvorov? can we call him a Russian commander? Kutuzova?
              we can, but what has changed? Didn’t they serve in the Russian Empire, were there no other nationalities? Do you see the amendments they need.
              and don’t send me to institutes, I perfectly know the difference between these words. only you won’t erase it from us. I will remain just a part of the Russian army. I will also say the same in the Russian, but I won’t do it out of political correctness .
              it’s better to raise this question in Belarus, but you’ve bypassed my kament about this. So do you respect the Jew, Russian, Ukrainian ... who serve in the Belarusian army? Why are they Belarusian soldiers?

              Belarusian athletes?
              [/ Center]

              there is a Kazakh language and a Kazakh army in Kazakhstan, and you, why are there no such political correct ones?
              1. 0
                4 August 2015 21: 34
                Damn, because they serve in Belarus, in Kazakhstan! They are citizens of the country in which they serve! Belarusians were never Russian, they were always Belarusians like Kazakhs, Georgians, Uzbeks.
                1. 0
                  5 August 2015 09: 59
                  You are right, colleague! There is confusion with the terms: Belarusians live in Belarus, Ukrainians in Ukraine and Russians in Russia. In the first two cases, this is both citizenship and nationality. The same words. And the Russians are residents of Russia, who can be Russians and Tatars and Karakalpaks and Ossetians and Kalmyks - this is already a nationality. A similar situation in Kazakhstan - Kazakhstanis live there - residents of the country, the majority of the population of which are Kazakhs (and this is nationality).
                  1. +3
                    5 August 2015 16: 47
                    If you really want to be completely politically correct, then write: a citizen of Russia, a citizen of Belarus, a citizen of Kazakhstan, a citizen of Ukraine. So it will be more correct and no offense to nationality.
                  2. 0
                    5 August 2015 17: 23
                    There are no Russians in Belarus? And your president says. that Belarusians are not more than half ...
                    1. -1
                      6 August 2015 11: 59
                      VI Lenin had an exact identifier for this kind of figures - "political prostitute". This man will yell today that he is a supporter of European integration, and exactly two days later he will swear that "we will all die, but we will not let NATO tanks through us to Moscow" - it all depends on where there is a greater likelihood of receiving money to extend his "reign". A person is judged not by words but by deeds!
                      P.S. According to the census, 10,42% of Russians live in Belarus (data are freely available). But this indicator does not mean anything - it is simply a reflection of the size of one of the nationalities living in our country.
        2. +5
          4 August 2015 15: 10
          Dear Aboriginalius! I was born in the BSSR in the glorious city of Minsk! and I consider myself a Russian person, despite the fact that I have a lot of different bloods among my ancestors ...
          When I watched the film "Taras Bulba" in the cinema, one girl in the audience was very much indignant at the monologue of the main character ...
          - ... But only a person can become related by kinship to the soul, and not by blood. There were comrades in other lands, but there were no such comrades like those in the Russian land ...
          - ... Let them all know what partnership means in the Russian land! Well, for that matter, to die - so none of them will ever die like that !. . No one, no one !. . They don’t have enough of their mouse nature!
          The essence of the girl's indignation boiled down to the fact that their partnership should be Ukrainian and not Russian!
          Now you remind me of this girl with something!
          They advised the girl to read Gogol, but he wrote this monologue
          1. -1
            5 August 2015 09: 24
            Dear antoXa! I was also born in Minsk and spent every summer in the village of my grandmother, where all the meat and meat were grilled only to Belarus and all the Russians and Ukrainians were brothers (though the latter were still complaining about - the policemen had not forgotten since the war).
            The country or power - this is not the essence of the conversation - was one and therefore there could be no question of other relationships. I still adhere to this point of view. I do not find your example on the film convincing - you need to follow the original source, i.e. Gogol, and then the whole picture, the whole story will be volumetric, expressed and conveying not only the basis of the plot, but also its entire meaning, conveyed seemingly in insignificant details. This is not the case in the film "Taras Bulba". As for the girl, the poor man did not know that the toponym Ukraine, like Belaya Rus', characterized individual regions and, due to the location of these lands in the Russian Empire, was not isolated. These are historical facts. Exactly the same as never before, the Russians did not live in the Volga region - the Polovtsians, Pechenegs, Bulgars and Khazars lived there, the Crimea was inhabited by the Greeks and Tatars since ancient times, and the toponym "Russians" originally extended only to the Orsha-Smolensk region. But we do not live in the past, but in the present, and we need to proceed from this. The history is different: the ancestors of the present-day Belarusians, the Lithuanians, fought (depending on the situation) against the Polish crown and the Moscow principality, and already by common united forces - with the Teutonic Order. The story tells about the different relationships of our ancestors. But this is not a reason for enmity with either one or the other. And now you need to remember and know the history but live in the modern world. And live in peace, mutual assistance and harmony between us.
            Understand that at present, it is not only the enmity between brothers that is dangerous, but also excessive zeal in the desire to prove the unity of us all in one single nation - the Russian! This is a manifestation of Nazism and leads to confrontation. This causes a counteraction effect. For some reason, many confuse national pride and nationalism.
            I myself am such and I personally know people who at the words (I heard more than once myself from outside Muscovites, being there repeatedly on work matters): "There is no such country - Belarus! There is some artificial education. And there is no such language - this is distorted Russian ! Anyway, you are all Russian and soon we will join you! " fists begin to clench.
            This is exactly what the states are striving for - to quarrel us, to set brother against brother. And it doesn’t matter who starts the first - the main thing is to light a fire of hostility. But this cannot be allowed.
            1. +2
              5 August 2015 10: 23
              I agree with you on this)
              And I have never been a nationalist. I’m not talking about skin color, eye shape (they tried to call me Tatar for a while at school, which was fundamentally wrong). I am talking about the spirit, about a common story. Do you associate your history only with the Litvinov tribe?))) And for example, with the defense of the Brest Fortress in the 41st? Yes, of course I agree with you that it was protected by Soviet soldiers!
              But in this particular example, between the Soviet soldier, the Russian soldier, and the Russian soldier, I put equal signs, despite the fact that there were people of different nationalities.
              You can of course put equal signs between the Soviet soldier and the Belarusian soldier.
              1. +2
                5 August 2015 11: 22
                Dear antoXa!
                I am an example with Litvin for clarity, if you dig further, then you can reach the Krivichi, Radzimichi and Dregovichi. The point is not in this, but in the fact that in history our ancestors had different relationships. The same Brest fortress is an example of desperate defense and unity. But what I do not agree with you is in the statement of equality between the terms "Soviet soldier", "Russian soldier" or "Belarusian soldier". And I'll explain why. Not so long ago, when visiting the Auschwitz concentration camp, the Polish Foreign Minister made a statement that "... there was the First Ukrainian Front, and the Ukrainians were liberating the concentration camp in Auschwitz ...."... I do not know about you, but these words conquered me. And one of the Ukrainians could answer your legitimate question about historical correspondence - "And put an equal sign between the concepts" Soviet soldier "and" Ukrainian soldier "and be happy!" That is why I ask you to call things by their proper names, as it was in History (just like that - with a capital letter).
                Yes, and yet - I will explain the situation - I am not against a single federal state association of our peoples, as it was during the USSR - it is necessary to be sober and see the pros and cons of all possible options for relations. But on voluntary terms and with mutual benefit for all parties.
                The USSR itself (without taking into account the political aspect of the party’s leadership) was a very successful model of federal formation and could be transformed into something similar to modern China.
                But alas, we have what we have.
                However, the creation of a renewed country — and it doesn’t matter whether it’s someone’s experience gained or a model of public education developed and implemented — needs to be worked on.
                And work your head! To understand that not only "vile Americans" destroyed our country, but in the USSR itself there were flaws that required treatment. And when the patient is not treated, he dies. And even faster he dies if he is also helped in this by enemies. And analyze the facts, study them and draw conclusions. And apply the knowledge gained when planning the further development of the country.
                And yet - you need to understand how politics differs from fear of respect, blackmail from pressure, the government’s concern for the morality of its people from comprehensive fooling and the rise of national self-consciousness from chauvinism and Nazism. These are thin lines that are easy to cross and further the situation will develop only on an increasing basis.
                I often visit Russia - about once every 2 months. Do not be offended, brothers, but clergymen and nationalists are no longer working to raise Russia - they have crossed the line indicated above.
                I don’t want to say that everything is perfect in Belarus - in terms of living standards and economic situation, as well as total control over everything, and all of our indicators are many times worse than in Russia. But I’m talking about something else. About friendship and brotherhood of nations, which is possible only with respect for each other.
                I ask you to carefully listen to my words.
                Have a nice day everyone!
                1. 0
                  5 August 2015 17: 29
                  if anything, I’m not putting you cons)
                  1. +1
                    6 August 2015 11: 53
                    I believe. Thank you for our dialogue with you!
        3. +3
          4 August 2015 16: 59
          Strongly disagree with a colleague! We are an artificially divided single nation, not a nationality. This artificial separation is beneficial only to a small layer of local elites. And the fact that you live in Minsk, for example, only indicates that you are 700 km from Moscow! laughing
          A similar position of yours then leads to hatred and civil war.
          Yes, by the way, dear ... In the Airborne Forces they served in 90% - SLAVES! Reasons to list for a long time, think for yourself.
          And I worry about Belarus no less than yours. But! Moreover, she is White-RUSSIAN!
          1. -1
            5 August 2015 09: 49
            Dear combat66! I respect the various points of view of educated people, including and yours.
            Yes, I do not accept it, but respect it.
            Your argument is that "you live, for example, in Minsk, it only indicates that you are 700 km from Moscow!" brings only a smile. And I can also say not only "They served in the Airborne Forces in 90% - SLAVES!"but in the Navy there was a similar indicator. But these are not arguments in our conversation.
            To your argument about a hitherto unknown toponym " Belo-RUSSIAN!"I just ask you to remember where they were and what were the differences in their time, White Russia, Red Russia and Black Russia. And I also ask you to pay attention to the fact that this is all HISTORY, and we live in the PRESENT TIME.
            "We are an artificially divided single nation, not a nationality." Well, you think so, but my friends and I think differently. And our point of view is not
            "... then leads to hatred and civil war" as you deigned to write, she maintains relationships on equal terms.
            We are brothers and we are neighbors.
            But if a neighbor screams that - I am a fragment of the once great family of his ancestor and begins to attach my apartment or part of it to mine - I will take up the ax!
            But this is already there war and this is something that cannot be allowed in any case!
            And I also ask you to read my today's post a little higher - it slightly more extensively reflects my view on this issue.
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    4. +1
      5 August 2015 13: 24
      Ukrainians, Belarusians and other representatives of the peoples of the USSR did not serve in the Airborne Forces ???


      They served. And at least then they were considered no less Russian and called accordingly. After this, the concept of the Russian nation changed and a number of nationalities disappeared from there.
      1. +1
        6 August 2015 06: 58
        It seems to me that the Aboriginal is a Cossack mishandled! And she is very subtly trolling, deftly moving away from direct questions into lengthy arguments.
        Is not it so ?
        1. 0
          6 August 2015 11: 49
          No! I am a living, living person and, of course, have flaws. However, I do not work as a troll and I am not one of my hobbies. I am a resident of the Republic of Belarus, the city of Minsk. About 6 years as I regularly browse this site. I agree with something, with something not - I’m studying all the options for covering events. I am regularly on business in Western Europe and Russia. Less often in Ukraine - on personal matters.
          And he specially registered here only in order to express his view of the negotiated question.
          It was extremely unpleasant to hit the floor with a wave of frenzied and completely ridiculous criticism. But I'm glad that someone nevertheless agreed with my words and adheres to similar views.
          Dear Vlad74 Q, specify specifically - where exactly am I "very subtly trolls, deftly moving away from direct questions into lengthy reasoning."??? You must answer for your words !!
          1. 0
            7 August 2015 21: 17
            Do I need it? Answer you? You in your question to me turned everything upside down. You take a look at your rating. Site patrons have already tagged you. It’s rare for anyone here to lower the rating below the baseboard. Don't kick me. I do not have the ability to put ratings. Status does not allow.
            Solve your problems yourself. Do not cling to me!
  23. +3
    3 August 2015 15: 49
    and during the storming of the Dudaev Palace, the Ulyanovsk brigade made a great contribution. and in fact almost any combat output for the airborne forces is akin to a feat! happy holidays guys !!! soldier
  24. +3
    3 August 2015 19: 31
    Zaminusovat article. Roughly speaking, it turns out that either local successes, or all died.
  25. +11
    3 August 2015 20: 03
    --- Almost any combat output for the Airborne is akin to a feat!

    Apparently I was not so taught military affairs. Therefore, I believe that if the campaign is akin to a feat, then for this campaign poorly prepared. And an example of this can be called the Vyazemsky airborne operation. Yes, the paratroopers acted heroically, but this does not change the essence of the failed operation.

    Therefore, I get the impression that such articles are written by marketers from the army - they create a positive story for a new branch of the army. It turns out a Hollywood "vision" of history - there was a defeat, there was a wonderful blockbuster about brave American warriors

    This is very unpleasant for me, because in our history there are many victories, examples of competent and successful warfare, courage and heroism. And such articles put everything upside down. As a result, the feat is diminished and professionalism truly worthy of imitation.

    Sorry, boiling.
    1. +4
      3 August 2015 20: 40
      I completely agree! With all due respect to the guys from the Airborne Forces, just like the paratroopers, our Airborne Forces have not a single worthy operation, such as the Crete among the Germans or the landing in France among the staff and the British. Moreover, which is insulting, ours is a cut above their moral and combat strength, but they use them as infantry in combined arms combat, dooming them to deliberate losses. And the landing operations failed either because of the useless organization, or because of the lack and unpreparedness of the BTA, it’s a shame for the country that was the founder of the airborne forces.
  26. +7
    3 August 2015 21: 53
    Quote: veteran66
    I completely agree! With all due respect to the guys from the Airborne Forces, just like the paratroopers, our Airborne Forces have not a single worthy operation, such as the Crete among the Germans or the landing in France among the staff and the British. Moreover, which is insulting, ours is a cut above their moral and combat strength, but they use them as infantry in combined arms combat, dooming them to deliberate losses. And the landing operations failed either because of the useless organization, or because of the lack and unpreparedness of the BTA, it’s a shame for the country that was the founder of the airborne forces.

    I completely agree that each type of army has its own victories, it is clear that the Airborne Forces, the GRU SP are an elite unit, the ground forces are the most founded part of the army. To put it bluntly, some quickly make a seizure and wait for the arrival of the main forces, for this, respectively, equipment and weapons for each kind of troops. What were the cool paratroopers in a large combined arms battle, they will be swept away, possibly with losses, even with the presence of airborne equipment, it is specific - it is intended for landing from the air Of course, now they will give tanks and heavier weapons, but then what is the meaning of the airborne forces? It’s the same as a cavalryman, to send to the infantry serves, he is already an infantryman without a horse. The motto of these troops is maneuver, surprise, everyone should do his own thing. Pristina - I think a vivid example. And the strength of the Airborne Forces in people - everyone wants to pass the selection, but not everyone can, and who has passed, then has no right to be worse, no right to dishonor the Airborne. Good luck.
  27. +5
    3 August 2015 22: 30
    "This story formed the basis of the famous film by Fyodor Bondarchuk" 9th Company ", which tells about the valor of Soviet soldiers"

    Bondarchuk in his film turned the feat of a real 9 company into defeat.
  28. +7
    4 August 2015 00: 33
    "After it turned out that when falling into the snow, only twelve percent of the landing party died."

    TOTAL ??? 12 percent of the landing !!! This is only when throwing !!! AND TOTAL ???? Yes it is fucking, how much.



    And the article is somehow kinda funny. It is pulled over different pieces, an unsuccessful attempt to combine in one text.
    1. +1
      4 August 2015 01: 48
      taking into account that there wasn’t a lot of throwing without parachutes into deep snow from low-flying aircraft, the plane has an average speed of about 150-200 km per hour on average, it’s not a skill to break anything with such a jump
    2. +2
      4 August 2015 03: 14
      also jarred - "... only 12 percent ..." - I would have understood, if it was a quote from a witness of events, I advise the author to imagine himself without "... only 12 percent ..." body, just that.
  29. 0
    4 August 2015 12: 35
    a friend served just at that time in the Assadabad battalion. talked about the death of 1 company. we were called together, I at that time in another province-Baghlan, served
  30. +2
    4 August 2015 13: 29
    Quote: klev72
    About Mozhaisk landing. "There is no documentary evidence of this story. Many believe that for some reason it is still classified, while others consider it a beautiful legend about the feat of the paratroopers. However, when skeptics asked about this story, the famous Soviet intelligence officer and paratrooper, parachute jumps of Ivan Starchak, he did not question the reality of this story. The fact is that he himself and his fighters also landed in Moscow to stop the motorized column of opponents. "
    Recently I wrote about this case / legend (to whom it is more correct) and many doubted the possibility of landing without a parachute. At least confirmation of this possibility from the mouth of a veteran who participated in such an operation puts everything in its place! Glory to the Airborne Forces!

    In the book of the polar pilot M. Kaminsky, the first part is devoted to his work as a test pilot in the Grokhovsky Design Bureau. And there they described the landing drop without parachutes. And in popular mechanics there was an article about the dumping of food and ammunition in 1941 near Moscow. Carrier aircraft R-5
    1. +1
      4 August 2015 19: 31
      the R-5 plane lands in a tailspin at 70 km per hour. That is, the paratroopers had to jump without parachutes somewhere at a speed of 100 km per hour
      1. +1
        4 August 2015 23: 10
        You know, remembered! Jumped ..., (in his youth) on the pavement, with 60-te ... He escaped !!!
        - And in the war? ..., probably everyone should be able to!
  31. +4
    4 August 2015 18: 34
    And no one said about the Landing in the Eagle 1941, when they landed under the nose of the Germans, 500 people, really for a whole day! in a bare field, with light weapons, they held superior enemy forces. Almost all died
    Day. Against tanks and motorized infantry.
  32. +1
    4 August 2015 22: 37
    Earth rest in peace to fighters! Eternal memory to the heroes!
  33. 0
    4 August 2015 23: 04
    The German soldiers were unpleasantly surprised to see low-flying aircraft, and then completely panicked when people in white fur coats fell one after another.

    Rather, "shocked" (but in those years there was no such word), but it was a feat !!!
  34. +2
    5 August 2015 03: 38
    Eternal Memory of the Fallen Airborne Soldiers!
  35. 0
    5 August 2015 09: 02
    Leave all disputes who are cooler since only Russians can do such feats as in the article. And it doesn’t matter which unit and type of troops !!!
    Because for thousands of years we were attacked, and in the end we have 1/6 of the land's land - you can’t argue with that !!!!
    1. 0
      5 August 2015 11: 29
      It smacks of hatred, dear!
      1. 0
        5 August 2015 12: 41
        it smells like shit.


        At the front, side by side stood a Russian, a Chechen, an Uzbek, a Ukrainian, and there was not a shadow of doubt that a comrade would not leave to die on the battlefield. No, these people didn’t have a nationality, they were Soviet, and perhaps this is where the strength lies when teenagers don’t point their fingers at a representative of another nationality walking along the street or when a Chechen guy doesn’t raise his weapon to a Russian peer.
        http://topwar.ru/4553-geroi-sovetskogo-soy...y-i-tatary.html


        and so, even with wheatgrass

        For its staffing (312 divisions), 6654 residents of the Aktobe region, 3264 - South Kazakhstan, 1700 - West Kazakhstan, 691 - Guryev, 450 - Kzyl-Orda were drafted into the army. Of these, Russians - 4460, Kazakhs - 3556, Ukrainians - 2012, Uzbeks - 212, Tatars - 184, Tajiks - 86, Turkmen - 74, Belarusians - 23 ".
        "The 316th rifle division was formed in July in Alma-Ata by the military commissar of the Kyrgyz SSR, Major General Ivan Panfilov, and the instructor of the Almaty military registration and enlistment office, senior lieutenant Bauyrzhan Momyshuly. Almost half of the personnel were Kazakhs, and a third were Russians." Kazakhs were 100%, Russians - 86%. "


        16 Rifle Division
        According to the data on 1 of January 1943, of the 10 250 soldiers and officers of the division there were 7 of thousands of Lithuanians and residents of Lithuania. There were 3720 Lithuanians (36,3%), 3064 Russians (29%), 2973 (29%) Jews, 492 (4,8%) representatives of other nationalities in the division. According to other sources, 16% of Jews (23,2) fought in the 2378-th Lithuanian division. This is the highest indicator of the number of Jewish soldiers in one military unit of the Red Army. Jews made up 13% (136 people) of all division officers and 34,2% in infantry fighting units.
  36. +1
    5 August 2015 11: 43
    Russian to be Cool
  37. -6
    5 August 2015 12: 30
    Paratrooper, courageous brutual:

    On this one:


    Or computer scumbag

    On this:


    Make your bets gentlemen. With all due respect to the dashing airborne airborne forces, the second option still looks more confident and viable.
  38. 0
    5 August 2015 13: 57
    I would add to the article information about the actions of the paratroopers in the Demyansk cauldron. There is a good fiction book about it - "Landing Tour-1942. In the icy hell", author Ivakin Alexey Gennadievich. The frost penetrates the skin.
  39. 0
    5 August 2015 14: 08
    Quote: go21zd45few
    Information about the death of the 6th company for a long time was hidden due to direct betrayal in the highest echelons of power, and command. Why there was no artillery cover, air cover. Our children, fathers and brothers for the ruling elite is garbage, although they themselves are brainless robbed of their own people. They suck blood from the people like bugs.

    there was fog arta tried to cover for them militants tried to break through their so-called special forces kept approaching
  40. 0
    5 August 2015 23: 32
    It’s a pity that the best perish, and the ear-pots breed and multiply.
    Normal films have long ceased to be shot, a good memory would be about the guys.
  41. 0
    6 August 2015 00: 05
    Airborne - with a holiday. In the 80s he served in Special Forces there was a clear difference - landing - one thing, we are another. The tasks are different. we did not consider them to be an elite, the difference in training was striking, they were indicative, they were just ....... Airborne Forces - colonial troops - parachute down where there are no air defense and aviation, they’ll interrupt them with motorized rifles to the second day when there will be no rounds of ammunition ...... Because of the selection of new recruits - an advantage, as well as good gentlemen for officers, we get good parts with traditions and military stubbornness. At the expense of terry, really. Airborne - an elite infantry, but if so, then why a parachute ???????
  42. 0
    23 October 2015 14: 38
    Thank you so much for the article. Until now, fighters of all units and subunits of the Airborne Forces are educated on the example of such feats. Experience shows that nothing in the character of the Russian paratroopers has changed. Glory to the Airborne Forces !!!

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