Financial Times: APU demoralized and lose confidence in the government

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Ukrainian servicemen in the Donbass are demoralized and lose confidence in the government and the president, according to an article in the British Financial Times. He writes about it RIA News.



The newspaper correspondent said that the military in the east of Ukraine complained of poor supply and accused the president of “unsuccessful policy, which resulted in a constantly violated cease-fire agreement.”

“Why doesn't the president come here? He would see first-hand how poorly they supply us, ”quotes the author of the soldier Vasily. - Poroshenko prefers visiting polygons far from the conflict zone and checking modern species weaponsthat still have to go to the front line. "

“And such sentiments are typical of the Ukrainian army. They feel like cannon fodder in this (...) smoldering war, ”the correspondent writes.

He notes that “Poroshenko repeatedly complained about Washington’s refusal to provide Kiev with anti-tank weapons, such as Javelin missiles, but Ukrainian soldiers still have not received even local-made Stugna missiles.”

According to the journalist, "many soldiers fighting in the Donbass express admiration for the Right Sector extremist organization, whose leader last week called for a popular vote of no confidence in the government and for a new revolution."

The newspaper points to a drop in confidence in the government, not only in the army, but also in civil society. “Poroshenko is supported only by 14,6% of voters, and Yatsenyuk is supported by 1,3%,” the publication cites the results of a survey by Kiev sociologists.

The main reasons for what is happening, the author calls "protracted war, economic depression and slow reform."

“However, some steps taken by the government are extremely unpopular. For example, a fourfold increase in utility tariffs, which was a condition for providing financial assistance to the IMF, turned out to be an unbearable burden for Ukrainian pensioners, ”the newspaper writes.

“There are no immediate signs of the destruction of the ruling coalition, but in the local elections in October, support for marginal parties may increase,” warns the Financial Times.
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  1. +131
    1 August 2015 12: 34
    Tyanne Yesterday, 23:22
    Every day, the "demoralized" Ukrainian Armed Forces, "feeling like cannon fodder," the soldiers of the Ukrainian army hit residential areas with heavy weapons. Every day someone's house is being destroyed, children, women, old people are injured or killed. Yes, they do not feel like cannon fodder, DO NOT FEEL. All this is nonsense. They are happy to play shooters, but not on the computer, but in real life. And they will understand something when the new Nuremberg trials will take place over them, not earlier. Take away the rose-colored glasses, they come here to kill and begin to whine only when they are captured.

    Source: http://politikus.ru/events/55135-armiya-ukrainy-demoralizovana-i-teryaet-doverie
    -k-kievu.html
    Politikus.ru
    1. avt
      +26
      1 August 2015 12: 41
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      Every day, the "demoralized" Ukrainian Armed Forces, "feeling like cannon fodder", soldiers of the Ukrainian army hit residential areas with heavy weapons. Every day someone's house is being destroyed, children, women, old people are injured or killed. Yes, they do not feel like cannon fodder, DO NOT FEEL. All this is nonsense.

      Yes, we need to pay less attention to this omnipotence. Roguly will stupidly go to the slaughterhouse.
      1. +19
        1 August 2015 12: 59
        Rogues will stupidly go to the slaughterhouse.

        Yes, they do not feel like cannon fodder, DO NOT FEEL. Bullshit is all this. They enjoy shooting games.
        They play shooting games and DO NOT FEEL until they are repulsed! type a truce! And as soon as they begin to clatter along the head, they FEEL right away!
        1. +16
          1 August 2015 13: 09
          They play shooting games and DO NOT FEEL until they are repulsed! type a truce! And as soon as they begin to clatter along the head, they FEEL right away!

          Nothing in the consciousness of these nonhumans changes, it seems that they are still sincerely perplexed, i.e. again - what about us?
          1. +40
            1 August 2015 13: 57
            Are they poorly fed? And nothing else cares?
            Those. if the "food heaps", then everything is fine and there are no problems. Got drunk and in a cheerful mood for his favorite howitzer? And the fact that you are "cannon fodder" is somehow not remembered?
            This psychology is not a soldier, but pigs and cows on a farm.
            1. +1
              2 August 2015 00: 20
              This psychology is not a soldier, but pigs and cows on farms.

              ... so they are pigs and they have one surname - Porosk ...
        2. -1
          1 August 2015 15: 44
          "Better horrible end - than horror without end!"
          If it were not for the "truce" to please the traitor oligarchs, everything would have ended long ago.
          Alas, this is unnecessary for either grunts or "curators" that is Moscow.
    2. +14
      1 August 2015 12: 48
      You are talking about those who did not participate in real clashes. They really continue to play games .. But those who fought completely change their point of view.
      So to calm the warlike fervor of these warriors it is necessary to really fight. And what is happening is parnography. There is no war in the media, war is in fact ... And a war of extermination. Because to suppress a firing point with small arms is problematic. But there are no problems shooting at the squares .. Anyone can get into the city
      1. +10
        1 August 2015 13: 20
        Quote: domokl
        But those who fought completely change their point of view.

        Hmm .. “Many soldiers fighting in Donbass express admiration for the extremist organization Right Sector - it just seemed like yesterday that nobody likes pravosekov and they are in the detachments - a paradox.
        1. +12
          1 August 2015 14: 39
          Pravosekov loves the Financial Times, which means that interviewees love them by definition.
      2. +2
        1 August 2015 20: 01
        domokl RU Today, 12:48 ↑
        You are talking about those who did not participate in real clashes. They really continue to play games .. But those who fought completely change their point of view.

        Well, in fact, you confirm the previously expressed thought: "Until they knock on the head, they don't feel anything."
    3. +19
      1 August 2015 12: 56
      Maybe conscience woke up and genetic memories ..? Ukraine tse europe ..? Which we (and first they ironed us) just crushed almost (pity and helped them later after the 45th) And now it starts again ..? I didn’t finish Bandera’s, I agree, and now such things are going on .. And this is for Frau Merkel and everyone who lives there (and overseas too)REMINDER!
    4. +33
      1 August 2015 13: 43
      That .... There will be no Nuremberg. They came up with crap for the gullible.

      To judge someone for "some" crimes ... MEANS to judge those who unleashed this massacre.

      Does anyone have a doubt who is guilty of the war in Iraq?
      Does anyone have a doubt who is guilty of the war in Syria?
      And so on and so forth, and so on ...
      Has anyone STARED at a tribunal for crimes in those wars?

      If someone will be judged .... then NOT Americans and NOT Ukrainian bandits.
      They will judge Russian!

      In order for there to be some use from the massacre in Uraine, it is NECESSARY that the United States and the European Union want this. It is they who decide who, when and for what to judge.

      As soon as the USA collapses .... the next day and WILL GREAT COURT over the CRIMINAL state.
      1. +4
        1 August 2015 17: 47
        Quote: sellrub
        ... as soon as the USA collapses .... the next day and WILL GREAT COURT over the CRIMINAL state.

        I completely agree with this ... Question, how long? ...
      2. +2
        1 August 2015 19: 42
        "That .... there will be NO Nuremberg. Invented crap for the gullible.
        To judge someone for "some" crimes ... MEANS to judge those who unleashed this massacre. "

        But in Nuremberg it was, only the times, alas, are not the same. And Joseph Vissarionovich is not on them. A pity.
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    5. +13
      1 August 2015 15: 05
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      DO NOT FEEL. Bullshit is all this. They enjoy shooting games, but not on the computer, but in real life. And they will understand something when the new Nuremberg trial will take place over them, not earlier

      In the new "Nuremberg Trials", as in the old one, only the leaders were directly tried.
      For ukrovoinov, with the exception of some particularly ardent, there will be no process. For such, there have always been prisoner of war camps with hard work.
      In war, "don't play shooter." On the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, there is a good "return". In my purely personal opinion, it is not accurate and powerful enough, but the number of killed and wounded, disabled "warriors" is already measured by numbers with four zeros.
      Conclusion: their spirit will completely come out of them when every night the probability of becoming "two hundredth" or a cripple will be 20 percent. Plus, thieving, large quartermasters ...
      Roughly speaking, when 10-12 banderlog will be destroyed per day. Plus "wounded" about fifty.
      This is not easy to do - banderlogs are hiding in fortifications, etc., but it is necessary.
      How it's done? High-precision modern weapons plus reliable target reconnaissance. It’s also not easy ...
      But there is no other way, if the DLNR army, with all possible help, does not achieve this, then what was there to start?
    6. +2
      1 August 2015 15: 06
      there will be no processes over them. Now it’s not that world order. They will love the Russians again, we will feed them, drink them, rebuild everything. They are white and red, moral, moral, but they don’t know about it. What a pity it will be so
    7. +8
      1 August 2015 15: 17
      `` Ukrainian servicemen in Donbass are demoralized and losing confidence in the government and the president. '' The preparation of the Western inhabitants for the change of the president of Hohland began. They say '' did not cope and therefore was replaced by a stronger one. ''
      1. +5
        1 August 2015 17: 52
        Quote: papas-57
        `` Ukrainian servicemen in Donbass are demoralized and losing confidence in the government and the president. '' The preparation of the Western inhabitants for the change of the president of Hohland began. They say '' did not cope and therefore was replaced by a stronger one. ''

        Isn't it a case for the "Foundling Bear"? ... belay fool
        1. +6
          1 August 2015 18: 19
          Quote: PENZYAC
          Isn't it a case for the "Foundling Bear"? ...


          That Pan Pedro will be replaced by the "masters" with a new lackey, it is indispensable, but, God forbid, - for Yarosh, Turchinov, or for a woman with two braids (one on her head, the other in her hands). The election will take place according to the plan of the State Department outlined today. Dinner is served.
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    9. +17
      1 August 2015 15: 41
      Everything is much simpler. No shooters (except in the brains of couch heroes). I woke up, had breakfast, worked out the coordinates, changed our position, smoked, called home with my relatives for a chat, dined. I scolded those who send bad products to the army, worked again on the coordinates, watched TV or sat on the phone on the internet. Then he threw himself into the cards or crushed half a liter with his colleagues. Well then, with a calm soul went to bed. This is how an ordinary Ukrainian artilleryman spends his day. No mental torment. And at these coordinates, people rush around under fire and pray to run to the basement. But the soldier does not see this - he just works in the coordinates. He does not see the people killed by his gun - he just does a boring job. And he does not think about morality or the inhabitants of Donbass, but about poor feeding, about the form being leaked, about the family, about where to put the bubble or whether he received money on the card or not. An ordinary soldier with ordinary desires and concerns, and not a Nazi with swastikas. He simply performs a boring task and until he himself sees the consequences of his work, he won’t think about anything like that. It’s just a war and it’s like that.
      1. +7
        1 August 2015 18: 06
        Quote: g1v2
        Everything is much simpler. No shooters (except in the brains of couch heroes). I woke up, had breakfast, worked out the coordinates, changed our position, smoked, called home with my relatives for a chat, dined. I scolded those who send bad products to the army, worked again on the coordinates, watched TV or sat on the phone on the internet. Then he threw himself into the cards or crushed half a liter with his colleagues. Well then, with a calm soul went to bed. This is how an ordinary Ukrainian artilleryman spends his day. No mental torment. And at these coordinates, people rush around under fire and pray to run to the basement. But the soldier does not see this - he just works in the coordinates. He does not see the people killed by his gun - he just does a boring job. And he does not think about morality or the inhabitants of Donbass, but about poor feeding, about the form being leaked, about the family, about where to put the bubble or whether he received money on the card or not. An ordinary soldier with ordinary desires and concerns, and not a Nazi with swastikas. He simply performs a boring task and until he himself sees the consequences of his work, he won’t think about anything like that. It’s just a war and it’s like that.

        An ordinary "soldier" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is a former indifferent man in the street ...
        Exactly the same indifferent "non-Nazis" just as simply did their "job" by dropping atomic bombs on Japanese cities in August 1945 ... Maybe they shot themselves later, after learning what they had done? ...
        An indifferent person is no better than a Nazi! ...
        1. +4
          2 August 2015 22: 26
          The ancients said: "Do not be afraid of the enemy - he can only kill you, do not be afraid of a friend - he can only betray you, FEAR the indifferent - it is from his indifference that the friend betrays and kills the enemy !!"
      2. +6
        1 August 2015 18: 30
        In what they are white and fluffy. Children are innocent. Such a way of life is inherent in animals with reflexes, and not people. All of them, scum, know and understand. Killers and.
      3. +2
        1 August 2015 23: 38
        Quote: g1v2
        An ordinary soldier with ordinary desires and concerns, and not a Nazi with swastikas. He simply performs a boring task and until he himself sees the consequences of his work, he won’t think about anything like that. It’s just a war and it’s like that.

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        Even the most ordinary "soldier" understands that he is not at the training ground, but in a residential area! Understands where the barrels are directed and what each shot carries!
      4. +1
        3 August 2015 13: 28
        And if this soldier receives an SMS with the message "attention, in your area Russian troops have decided to use tactical nuclear weapons, act according to the regulations ..." And not just one soldier, but a whole battalion, including officers. GEORGIAN GUARDIANS BREAKED THE HEAD OUT OF THE MOUNTAIN ...
    10. +5
      1 August 2015 16: 16
      Yes, no, that's when the shells will fly into their huts, then B, B, P will be happy.
      By the way. DNI and LC goals are one, the mentality is one. Why aren't they still together?
      they would be called simply, without fancy: "Eastern Ukraine". We are Ukraine, but Eastern. And then you look and the rest will catch up, well, Kharkov, Odessa, Zaporozhye. hi
    11. +9
      1 August 2015 17: 28
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      Take away the pink glasses, they come here to kill and begin to whine just getting captured.

      So it is, here is an example:
      1. +6
        1 August 2015 20: 36
        So this Bandera mother herself sent her ugly creature, "more need to block the roof!" And the roads were blocked by traps with the requirements of "bulletproof vests for children and rotation!" And these promised their mothers "rabiv" (slaves) in all seriousness, or pryihat on the car ....
      2. +3
        2 August 2015 09: 24
        Good video. Typical dill soldier of fortune. Only real wild geese stand to the end - a code of honor, and this one. Give Novorosiya God more of such opponents !!! You look New Year 2016 will celebrate in Kuev !!! drinks
    12. +5
      1 August 2015 18: 26
      Soon I will try to post my article on this subject.
      I will wait for the reaction of members of the forum.
      There will probably be questions. But there will be answers.
  2. +9
    1 August 2015 12: 35
    He would see first hand how poorly they supply us

    There were stories of how units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine purposefully exterminate their own. What is the talk about supply? This president is generally purple before these troops. I think he is offended that the "rebels" have stopped their fire. A couple more waves of mobilization, and in Ukraine only cripples will remain from the youth.
  3. +11
    1 August 2015 12: 36
    It seems to me that in the east of U. Krai, such thugs are fighting, that talking about some morality is ridiculous, so there’s no one
  4. +7
    1 August 2015 12: 37
    Great news. It's time to throw off the power of the Junta and the right sector. soldier
    1. +9
      1 August 2015 12: 50
      They would like, they would have thrown off a long time ago.
      And so some kind of chatter, Ukrainians.
      You see, you don't like supplying them ...
      And if they supplied well, they fired at peace with a smile ...
  5. +4
    1 August 2015 12: 39

    The newspaper points to a drop in confidence in the government, not only in the army, but also in civil society. “Poroshenko is supported only by 14,6% of voters, and Yatsenyuk is supported by 1,3%,” the publication cites the results of a survey by Kiev sociologists.
    The American newspaper, the owners are beginning to merge their mongrel, soon you can probably wait for the liver-hamburger disant on the Maidan. And hello Vunnopravosekovskaya junta.
    1. +9
      1 August 2015 12: 48
      The publication is British, but this does not change the picture.
      “Only 14,6% of voters support Poroshenko, while Yatsenyuk - 1,3%”

      By winter, this% will decrease even more, if by that time they will not be dropped by "PS". And, the fact that Poroshenko and his entourage do not give a damn about the Armed Forces of Ukraine still does not know only the Ukrainian baby.
  6. +5
    1 August 2015 12: 42
    We will not wait much, we'll see. Winter is coming soon, energy consumption will increase, payments by citizens, the same will increase. Then it is necessary to conduct the British social poll and the rating. Maybe it will be about%. Ukrainians are not starting the summer company either, there are few who want to die, but there are already a lot of people who want to re-privatize property with arms in their hands. Another nine months, such a trend and the West will ask Russia to send troops to Ukraine. It has always been this way throughout Ukrainian history.
  7. +9
    1 August 2015 12: 42
    On Eton-tv, Yasha Kedmi, when asked what the Ukrainian army can oppose in the event of a war with Russia, answered: the Ukrainian army? And what is it?
  8. +6
    1 August 2015 12: 42
    Poroshenko is supported only by 14,6% of voters, and Yatsenyuk - 1,3%

    There are no direct signs of the destruction of the ruling coalition

    Cool.
    1. +2
      1 August 2015 12: 56
      It's only the beginning. Now, if at least a third of the parashenic lies are voiced, it will be a shock from the west.
      1. +1
        2 August 2015 18: 16
        Do not expect there will be no shock. There was a severe shock after the truth about Powell's test tube (sort of), after which the war destroyed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis? And what shock does everyone have about wiretapping pin% by wasps of everyone in the world insolently? What kind of politician (who has real power) was very offended by them? And how did the shock end at Pin% dosii in Ferguson?
  9. +4
    1 August 2015 12: 43
    The Ukrainian Armed Forces have already turned into a big gang. All their "exploits" are racketeering and robbery.
    1. +2
      1 August 2015 21: 07
      They just became real Bandera
  10. +9
    1 August 2015 12: 44
    According to the journalist, “many soldiers fighting in the Donbass express admiration extremist organization "Right Sector", whose leader last week called for a popular vote of no confidence in the government and for a new revolution " Since when did such a Western publication begin to call them that. They can merge piglets and want to find support in the Nazis, so that they slaughtered everyone in the Donbas and then the West will achieve its goal. With a piglet they stall.
  11. +7
    1 August 2015 12: 47
    and when the ukrovoyaks were happy with something? Few of them still went through the millstones of this war to understand the main thing, they are just rubbish, "proizvodstvo waste" obliged to die for other people's interests and not for their future.
    1. +7
      1 August 2015 13: 02
      In 1941, residents of Western and Central Ukraine began to surrender in large numbers (for the sake of justice, not only they surrendered, but also residents of Western Belarus, the Baltic States), the Germans let them go home, some of the Russian prisoners of war were saved in the same way by Ukrainian women ... Surrendered in hundreds of thousands. In 1943 they were again drafted into the army and they fought again. The film "Wedding in Malinovka" with a magnificent scene when the grandfather changed his headdress depending on the affiliation of the armed detachments entering the village is a very true feature of Ukrainians.
  12. +23
    1 August 2015 12: 53
    Sala in chocolate!
    Heroam sala!

    From the life of elves, scho ne die
    From Elena.
    "A friend from Gorlovka told an episode of everyday life.
    A wounded Natsik was brought to the hospital to them.
    his leg was amputated.
    Well, as usual, he asked me to call home.
    Allowed, but only by speakerphone.
    Dialog:
    - Mom, hello, I was torn off my leg in captivity, but alive!
    A pause ... and then mom:
    - So is it that you won’t bring a refrigerator? ..
    Silent scene, and the nurse dropped the syringe tray.
    How to put up with such and generally live together side by side, people? "

    ---------------
    From the Facebook page of Sergey Veselovsky, host of the program "Actually" ...
  13. +6
    1 August 2015 12: 54
    Quote: Kil 31
    According to the journalist, “many soldiers fighting in the Donbass express admiration extremist organization "Right Sector", whose leader last week called for a popular vote of no confidence in the government and for a new revolution " Since when did such a Western publication begin to call them that. They can merge piglets and want to find support in the Nazis, so that they slaughtered everyone in the Donbas and then the West will achieve its goal. With a piglet they stall.

    Everything rolls towards this! Only whining does not stop. They will kill and whine.
  14. +4
    1 August 2015 13: 02
    “Only 14,6% of voters support Poroshenko, while Yatsenyuk - 1,3%”


    How do you like this "democracy". Power of the people, right? A revolution of dignity?
    1. +11
      1 August 2015 13: 47
      [/ Quote]

      How do you like this "democracy". Power of the people, right? A revolution of dignity?[/ Quote]
      1. +3
        1 August 2015 21: 39
        Tired of jumping, so they whined. Moreover, it turns out that Pan Ataman has no gold reserves. Citizens, the film "Wedding in Malinovka" is worthy of an Oscar, and the director Tutyshkin - the Nobel Prize for his amazing ability to predict the future of Ukraine with the help of comedy.
  15. +2
    1 August 2015 13: 17
    I do not believe ! When they will fight with weapons in their hands for their PEOPLE, and not for the corrupt government and generals .. Only then can you believe and make any plans for the future!
  16. +4
    1 August 2015 13: 18
    everyone to call. Their supply is poor, they follow the criminals' offenses and commit crimes themselves against their people, there is no petition, and if they die of starvation or under shelling, only their relatives will suffer. They made their choice. So do not cry bastards and bear all the hardships of military life with honor, but apparently they do not have it.
  17. +5
    1 August 2015 13: 27
    "Many soldiers fighting in Donbass express admiration for the extremist organization Right Sector, whose leader last week called for a popular vote of no confidence in the government and for a new revolution."
    And what is the enta organization calling for? to continue the war! it turns Poroshenko straight dove of peace! Flies over Ukraine and crap in the sense of myrrh belay Well, where is their remorse ?? those who are fighting - for the "sector", that is, how is it? and "Until the victorious!" its end, to the grave ... otherwise nothing - the hump will knock on the head all the time ... there, as they say, and straighten up ...
  18. +5
    1 August 2015 13: 46
    If the relatives of those who are fighting in the Southeast in the ranks of the Armed Forces. They experienced shelling: Gradov :. That would have ceased long ago and they themselves demolished the current government in Kiev.
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  20. +9
    1 August 2015 13: 50
    “And such moods are typical of the Ukrainian army. They feel like cannon fodder in this (...) smoldering war, ”the correspondent writes.
  21. Tor5
    +3
    1 August 2015 14: 12
    If they really were bad, they would stick bayonets in the ground!
  22. +4
    1 August 2015 14: 15
    Obstinate Nazis ready to kill everyone in the Donbass is immeasurable.
  23. +5
    1 August 2015 14: 15
    “Why doesn't the president come here? He would see first hand how poorly they supply us

    I thought their conscience wakes up. And they are all about fat!
  24. +3
    1 August 2015 14: 49
    Now, when Ukrainians wanting to integrate Ukrainians will decrease, then they’ll see what role the West plays in their lives (and this will happen when the whole industry is driven away by the actions of the Americans and the Geyropeans) and then the war will end. Now only Yushchenko, Yatsenyuki, and Valtsman remain on the Ruin. In general, Ukraine rested on Donbass and Crimea, which had consolidated the Ruin. A lot of Bandera divorced, in the south-east, in the central regions, which follows from the social networks of the Internet.
  25. +7
    1 August 2015 15: 00
    Quote: Altona
    Dialog:
    - Mom, hello, I was torn off my leg in captivity, but alive!
    A pause ... and then mom:
    - So is it that you won’t bring a refrigerator? ..


    I heard and read similar stories, not once, but every time in shock. This is a paragraph (to put it mildly). fool
  26. +2
    1 August 2015 15: 40
    Quote: am808s
    Quote: Kil 31
    According to the journalist, “many soldiers fighting in the Donbass express admiration extremist organization "Right Sector", whose leader last week called for a popular vote of no confidence in the government and for a new revolution " Since when did such a Western publication begin to call them that. They can merge piglets and want to find support in the Nazis, so that they slaughtered everyone in the Donbas and then the West will achieve its goal. With a piglet they stall.

    Everything rolls towards this! Only whining does not stop. They will kill and whine.

    I wonder if the US will allow the "Right Sector" Waltzman and Yatsenyuk to really liquidate or not?
    1. +3
      1 August 2015 18: 33
      Quote: Tatiana
      I wonder if the US will allow the "Right Sector" Waltzman and Yatsenyuk to really liquidate or not?


      Take it easy. The State Department does not hand over its "sons of bitches" - they will be taken out and appointed to the state. positions in Moldova or in some Lithuania (called rotation, or simply a party of cards). bully
  27. +3
    1 August 2015 15: 44
    .......
    - COUNTRY - "NON-SCRAP"
    - well ... the truth is ...
  28. +1
    1 August 2015 17: 03
    khai urina-ruin will change the name of his country to a more pronounced name ... whining mobs ...
  29. +6
    1 August 2015 17: 08
    I wouldn’t feel so sorry for the punishers from the Armed Forces of Ukraine (and these are the punishers, de facto and de jure, according to Ukrainian laws). In addition, artillery of serious calibers and MLRS, tanks and self-propelled guns are predominantly only in the army. And who shoots at peaceful objects, who kills civilians? Mostly - APU. They are all from the Minister of Defense to ordinary conscripts who violate the Constitution, and there is no condescension to them while the weapons are in their hands. However, I agree that the cease-fire acts corrupting punishers, this is at least some plus from Minsk-2.
  30. +3
    1 August 2015 17: 21
    These are not APUs, but ordinary criminals.
    1. +3
      1 August 2015 18: 35
      Quote: atamankko
      These are not APUs, but ordinary criminals.


      YES YOU SHOOO! what Yes bully
  31. +4
    1 August 2015 18: 35
    Parasia does what he is ordered to do. And they remove him as he completes. And we, again, have to repair this misunderstanding from scratch from Ukraine. Not all. The part that is always ours. It’s not long to wait. Even a half year, a maximum of one and a half.
  32. +6
    1 August 2015 18: 53
    For Svidomo ... In general, with the upcoming "Margelovtsy"!
    1. 0
      2 August 2015 09: 33
      Guys with the Airborne Forces Day !!! drinks
  33. +3
    1 August 2015 20: 27
    Life has become completely new, but there will be no Maidan, this is not for you Yanukovych, this one will immediately disperse by force, since it is already democratic ...
  34. +2
    1 August 2015 20: 29
    ... mdya ... militant kaklov cuts tokmo bad feeding lol Why did they want pineapples in champagne? Cattle, which are fed for slaughter? That's right, slop and weed ... and they admire the Pravosek people, in my opinion, only because they have everything more or less normal with security, they are not supported by officials, who cut the military budget as they want, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine remain rags and scraps of the European and civilian Canadian and then expired and decommissioned ... they are kept by oligarchs for whom their army conquers power, influence, territory, etc. ... this is their "bright future" in their (oligarchs') opinion and not to spend money in a bastard .. .that Avakov began a turmoil with the contract army, screw the pravosek people under the guise of profics, then hungry Natsiks from the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and that will turn out to be an approximately combat-ready army, that is, a gang, but quite legally in Ukrainian ... ... oh how!
  35. +1
    1 August 2015 22: 19
    DNR and not so awkward)))))
  36. 0
    1 August 2015 22: 56
    The credibility of cannon fodder to power does not matter. Power in Dill - the US Embassy.
  37. +3
    2 August 2015 00: 14
    The trouble is just ... The poor and kind-hearted soldiers of the Armed Forces did not create comfortable conditions for the destruction of "separatists and quilted jackets", as well as their children and wives ... Have pity on these kindly nasty little soldiers? But you can't wait! I will not regret it !!! These vile scum "will be rewarded according to their deserts" !!!
  38. 0
    2 August 2015 04: 03
    This is not a war of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the LPR and the DNI - this is a war of idiots from politics. Everything is decided in the Kremlin and in the White House - the rest of the jesters on the map of geopolitics !!!!!
  39. +1
    2 August 2015 09: 36
    My dear svidomity and forced Ukrainian junta !!! I sincerely congratulate you on St. Elijah's Day and Airborne Forces Day !!! I wish you good luck not to die in the LPNR !!! Well, whoever wants to can come for "gifts" (enough for everyone). soldier
  40. +3
    2 August 2015 09: 48
    Ukraine is governed by a watcher - the US ambassador. If the Americans said to fight, then the war will go to victory, but whether or not I want to decide not for Ukrainians
  41. 0
    2 August 2015 17: 22
    Quote: Grandfather Bear
    If it were not for the "truce" to please the traitor oligarchs, everything would have ended long ago.

    Come on, come on .. Vasya ..

    - you are the hero of Russ
    - you are breastfeeding (behind everyone)
    - well, tell me, Vasya - how would it be, and how would it end ..

    PS: I love fairy tales from childhood .. and urodoff - I do not like for some reason .. brought up Yes
  42. +1
    2 August 2015 19: 21
    Quote: chehywed
    Quote: Angry Guerrilla
    Take away the pink glasses, they come here to kill and begin to whine just getting captured.

    So it is, here is an example:


    "I tell you .... do not stray .... my mother is waiting at home." (tsuka .. mom is waiting for him .. remembered about the mother, those children whom these animals are coming out to kill, mothers do not wait? Here is the brightest representative) (oh) (the nation's law. That's right, there is no need to build the right sector in the elections received 2014% of the vote this year already 1.8%.
    Believe the comrades, you’ll see when these animals are being nastified, they will all yell that they are all anti-fascists.
    These are) (o) (Well, such genes, the diagnosis in one word.
  43. +1
    2 August 2015 19: 22
    Well, only in Ukralin the fascist marginals took power ... Will there still be ...
  44. +1
    3 August 2015 09: 48
    there wonders there merkel wanders. Obama sits on the branches
  45. 0
    3 August 2015 13: 38
    Yeah, of course, it decomposes, but it continues to systematically destroy the Donbass and the whole world only shrugs and repeats, well, what can you do with them, they decompose. It is necessary to tolerate until completely decompose. Or maybe it's not they decomposing?
  46. +1
    3 August 2015 18: 22
    Yeah, they arranged a landfill, sowed hatred in the beautiful lands of Ukraine, corrupt Bendery henchmen of the West and the USA .. One people pitted each other for a fratricidal massacre, it feels like PEACE WANTS WAR, WAITS FOR IT !!! Only Russia is gloomily silent on the already obvious attacks of the enemy .. Ideal for our enemies: Russians kill Russians !!! Throughout history, Russia suffers from attacks, invasions, genocide from strangers, and most importantly PARADOX: ALWAYS FORGIVING TOTAL (after exile and complete victory naturally) !!! The Europeans and Asians themselves say that whether the analogy with them is the same situation - they don’t judge the winner — they are all toenail, the earth to themselves, there is no forgiveness and there will be no forgiveness, complete destruction of the history of captured peoples, in general total enslavement !!! But Russia does not learn from its own mistakes, everyone, noble Russians, have said goodbye, have come that we don’t even need enemies - we wet ourselves ...

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