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Miracles of the Ukrainian “sequence”: Avakov said that he should immediately abandon the draft and transfer the army to a contract basis

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Here's how to understand the logic of those in power in today's Ukraine? .. Yesterday, the Maidan authorities stated that Yanukovych “deliberately merged Ukraine” by refusing the practice of conscription to the ranks of the country's power structures. The fire brigade call after Yanukovych was restored, announcing a whole series of mobilization waves. But already today the Minister of Internal Affairs Avakov declares that the appeal must be again refused and the army transferred to a contract basis.

Miracles of the Ukrainian “sequence”: Avakov said that he should immediately abandon the draft and transfer the army to a contract basis


Avakov wrote about it on his page in Facebook (the author's text is given without changes):

I think about the waves of mobilization in the country. On the debilization of the actions of the military commissar handing the agenda to passers-by on the streets of Kharkov, on smugglers of Transcarpathia, who are enrolled in the army (their new head of the Transcarpathian Regional State Administration G. Moskal writes down - note "IN"). On the combat capability of the country and its armed forces in this difficult period.

Taking into account how much funds and forces are required by the state for recruiting, uniform, and training new recruits from a conditional accountant to an average soldier. Given the inability to achieve high qualification of the soldiers, with the current motivation and training mobilized.

COUNT:

The Army must now and immediately transfer to a professional contractual basis, reducing the number of troops and increasing the salaries of the REAL QUALIFIED military and their provision. Order, preparedness and motivation - beats any amount.
Such an approach has a future, there is no catching of draftees on the streets and in trams.

As a minister and member of the National Security Council I will make a proposal on the need to implement such an approach without delay. I will appeal to the Supreme Commander.

After all, the truth is, you will not pay and will not entrust your safety to those caught in the hot Transcarpathian smuggler or bystander?
Who can be trusted seriously? Only motivated, voluntarily contracted pros. Having the experience of recent months behind my back, I am sure that there will be no problems with the formation of such forces!

We are not rich enough not to have a professional army!


This is a terrific "sequence" in the actions of the Kiev authorities ... But at this rate, the matter may even go so far that some minister of the Ukrainian Cabinet of Ministers will soon have an idea about the need to abandon the association agreement with the EU ...
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    2. Mooh
      Mooh 30 July 2015 17: 15
      +27
      What nafig logic, there is a universal maidan of the brain.
      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 30 July 2015 17: 21
        +1
        No brain! language - instead of the brain!
      2. Major Yurik
        Major Yurik 30 July 2015 17: 33
        +9
        Something petun is silent, drinks and goes, gaining strength. negative
      3. Darkmor
        Darkmor 30 July 2015 17: 43
        +9
        I’m curious, but well-motivated Ukrainian contract soldiers will be ready to storm the fortifications of militias in the ATO, risking their contract lives and raising their salaries?
        Something seems to me that a well-motivated contractor goes to the army not only for a salary - and since they have a "patriotic war" there, all motivated ones should already be at the front.

        Well, they will have instead of 200 thousand mobilized 50 thousand contract soldiers (although I doubt very much that they will even get that amount) - and who will substitute their belly for bullets? Who will play the role of meat running on machine guns? Who will clean the toilets? Who will sit in the dugout for weeks? Who will eat expired dry packs? Who will fly on airplanes that are themselves ready to crash? Who will shoot shells that can explode in the barrel of a gun?
        Before you make a contract army, you need to create conditions for it - very expensive conditions.
        This is not a maidan of the brain to treat with dill, you are our Abkhs-Georgian Ukrainians ...
        1. sanja.grw
          sanja.grw 30 July 2015 18: 06
          +1
          I think after that
          NO
      4. BMP-2
        BMP-2 30 July 2015 17: 54
        +3
        Quote: MooH
        What nafig logic, there is a universal maidan of the brain.


        Yes, simple logic: if only two mutually exclusive options are possible (enter a call or cancel a call), then by any one of them must be correct! laughing
        But then, when again nothing happens, he will be able to say: "Well, after all, I offered to do the opposite, but they did not listen to me!" laughing
        This is how Avakov creates for himself the image of a "thinker" for his further political career, and will create it until it suddenly ends. laughing
      5. AleksWest
        AleksWest 30 July 2015 17: 59
        +4
        THERE IS AN OPINION THAT NOT ONE THAT UKRAINIANS HAVE BEEN REPLACED BY THE BRAIN IN TWO CANS OF PAINT = YELLOW AND BLUE ....
        1. boris-1230
          boris-1230 30 July 2015 22: 18
          +4
          THERE IS AN OPINION THAT NOT ONE THAT UKRAINIANS HAVE BEEN REPLACED BY THE BRAIN IN TWO CANS OF PAINT = YELLOW AND BLUE ....

          Something like this...
          1. Ze Kot
            Ze Kot 31 July 2015 00: 42
            +1
            Quote: boris-1230
            THERE IS AN OPINION THAT NOT ONE THAT UKRAINIANS HAVE BEEN REPLACED BY THE BRAIN IN TWO CANS OF PAINT = YELLOW AND BLUE ....


            And both were past due and defective ...
          2. ArhipenkoAndrey
            ArhipenkoAndrey 31 July 2015 08: 02
            0
            One photograph - and a full understanding of the state of the Outskirts of society, well, at least until the first rain, and then what?
      6. AleksWest
        AleksWest 30 July 2015 17: 59
        +4
        There are three types of idiocy: congenital, acquired, and
        Ukrainian-Maidan, if the first two are amenable to medical treatment, the third is subject only to the funeral service.
        1. Sergey Vl.
          Sergey Vl. 30 July 2015 19: 51
          +1
          Avakov declares that the call must be abandoned again and the army transferred to a contract basis

          I’m not talking about economics, but what about Avakov’s math? From where it is necessary to take away to add, i.e. to invest?
      7. KazaK Bo
        KazaK Bo 30 July 2015 18: 41
        +1
        MooH What nafig logic, there is a universal maidan of the brain.

        Mistaken dear - this is a very wise thought ... with veiled goals:
        - with the mobilization system of troop configuration, the formation of volunteer battalions is not legally necessary (read - battalions of private armies). There you can’t send replenishment of soldiers upon conscription under any sauce.
        - When recruiting under a contract ... you can easily "blur" the private nature of a military formation ... only with familiarization with secret documents (and who will allow the media and other truth-lovers to access them) you can understand ... which oligarch or state the detachment belongs to armed people.
        Apparently the "crap-mongers from the Washington Regional Committee" suggested the idea of ​​embellishing the Kiev regime. Hence the initiative of Avakov ...
      8. Meh-forester
        Meh-forester 31 July 2015 09: 53
        0
        Quote: MooH
        What nafig logic, there is a universal maidan of the brain.

        I do not agree. There is logic, and it is this: THE RESULTS of mobilization are SLEEPING, money and effort are all to the wind. So, what you want, you don’t want, and the transition to a professional army is the only reasonable way out in this situation.
    3. self-propelled
      self-propelled 30 July 2015 17: 15
      +6
      so there is an option - recruits. we recruited from each village a couple of "fighters" for 25 years and no problem wassat
      1. svetoruss
        svetoruss 30 July 2015 17: 17
        +9
        Quote: self-propelled
        so there is an option - recruits. we recruited from each village a couple of "fighters" for 25 years and no problem wassat
        In two weeks there will not be a single ragul in the villages yes
      2. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 30 July 2015 17: 21
        +3
        Here's how to understand the logic of those in power in today's Ukraine?

        And what is there to understand .. Vaughn in Odessa contains officials (s / n, etc. USA) and Sakashvilli does not hide it ... They will translate the APU on a contract basis .. Negroes will be caught up (with forelocks and embroidered shirts) Well done Avakov! bully
        1. jurassic61
          jurassic61 30 July 2015 17: 58
          0
          And are they blacks in your opinion ready to go on machine guns?) They are used to fighting only when they are superior to the enemy when aviation leaves scorched earth.
      3. tanit
        tanit 30 July 2015 17: 25
        +8
        There is a problem. Recruits - swear-mo.s.Kalsky recruitment principle. laughing Whether business -Cich. Who escaped from places of detention - that’s and KOzak, sometimes even - Knight laughing
        1. Dikson
          Dikson 30 July 2015 17: 37
          +3
          Don’t .. until you kill naked the Hedgehog, you don’t kill the Knight .. This is the first selection test .. - then with the sword on the head, at the initiation ..))
  2. evil partisan
    evil partisan 30 July 2015 17: 20
    +8
    If they’ve eaten even now, when they catch traps in trams lol the army is considered winked one of the strongest in Europe, it’s even scary to imagine: WHAT belay will be if the APU go to the contract sad. Tear everyone into flaps.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 30 July 2015 20: 52
      +1
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      Tear everyone into flaps.

      yellow-blakitnye !!!
  3. isker
    isker 30 July 2015 17: 22
    +3
    and what do you want from an "alternative thinking" minister? the next step will be - handing over a memorial sign to Moseichuk as a "victim of the Holodomor" ...
    1. Alekseev
      Alekseev 30 July 2015 17: 38
      0
      Quote: isker
      what do you want from an "alternative thinking" minister?

      Yes, trende not bags tossing ...
      Well, they have professional volunteers (I don’t know how true they are professionals): Tornado, Aydar, Donbass, etc.
      What else does Avakov need? Cancel the call and comb with your motivated pros ... What are the problems? wink
      Are the pros not the same? You will not have other banderlogs. yes
  4. boroda64
    boroda64 30 July 2015 17: 23
    +2
    ...
    - and in what - help .. ??
    / and where to get - specialists. /
  5. konvalval
    konvalval 30 July 2015 17: 23
    +1
    They will be picking up criminals from all over the world, their own will no longer be subordinate to anyone.
  6. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 30 July 2015 17: 25
    +6
    As they say, the language will bring to Kiev ... (an old saying and see not casual)))))
  7. Frigate
    Frigate 30 July 2015 17: 28
    0
    This approach has a future.
    Only Ukraine has no future and no money .. Yes, and who will believe them. But under the guise of contract soldiers, ISU banduks, Americans can launch this.
  8. kil 31
    kil 31 30 July 2015 17: 28
    +4
    One already promised thousands of hryvnias per day. No one else will lead this divorce.
    1. tanit
      tanit 30 July 2015 17: 38
      0
      They’ll ride. Alas. Someone from pure Svidomo (and there will be those who are not sad, but they will be) Someone adopting the best practices of US gangs (freebie training for the militant, possible access to army warehouses) So, they will.
  9. dakka-dakka
    dakka-dakka 30 July 2015 17: 34
    -27
    someone like that, but this peak flatters me
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 30 July 2015 17: 37
      +6
      Here Svidomo appeared ...
    2. tanit
      tanit 30 July 2015 17: 58
      +4
      Oooh, their boninimite, I, I ... Vee yest European. belay
      Alas, the knight of the Svidomo image, medicines can no longer help you. Sorry. And they could have grown a man ... request
      PS Well, I fed the troll. So if you do not feed them, they will die. It will be boring.
      1. sgazeev
        sgazeev 31 July 2015 09: 40
        +1
        Here Svidomo appeared ... lol
    3. GRAY
      GRAY 30 July 2015 18: 25
      +1
      Quote: dakka-dakka
      someone like that, but this peak flatters me

      A person can become addicted to alcohol, begin to draw gloomy drawings. All this confirms that a person develops a mental illness. Among the common signs of the various stages of schizophrenia, delirium is primarily noted, hallucinations are also often noted. They are expressed in crazy ideas when the patient is sure that they want to add poison to his food, that someone is following him, and so on. And it makes no sense to prove to the person the opposite, since this is impossible. Almost any stage of schizophrenia is different in that the patient cannot critically perceive his painful worldview. If the patient sees or hears hallucinations, he does not distinguish them from reality.
      It is known that even in the case of a violent course of schizophrenia, the patient eventually gets used to the changes that have arisen, and the sense of novelty goes away. The second stage of schizophrenia, characterized by hallucinations and similar phenomena, becomes to some extent an everyday occurrence for the patient. The presence of an illusory world no longer interferes with reality, and two realities coexist in his mind. At this stage, schizophrenia is characterized by a peculiar double orientation, when in the same neighbor the patient sees an insidious alien scout, and an old friend Uncle Kolya. In this case, the success of therapy is determined by which world the patient prefers. If in the real world nothing holds him, then he may not want to return to reality.
    4. Styx
      Styx 30 July 2015 20: 01
      +1
      K.akka-K.akka, if you were moving away ... well, until the chas broke here into small poop. Change the flag to a mattress color, like yours
  10. corn
    corn 30 July 2015 17: 34
    -1
    An ordinary ideological article of a rather low level.
    If the author wants to show inconsistency, then he needs to compare two contradictory statements of Avakov.
    The article contains only Avakov’s statement about the need for a professional, contract army. Where is Avakov’s statement about the need for a draft army? The rest are statements by the author of the article with conclusions.
    The fact cited in the article only proves a different vision of the way to equip the army, as it is in Russia
    I would advise the author to "separate flies from cutlets" (whose words you know).
    Many on the site are not completely dumb.
    You cannot be likened to corrupt media.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 30 July 2015 18: 16
      +1
      Quote: corn
      If the author wants to show inconsistency, then he needs to compare two contradictory statements of Avakov.
      The article contains only Avakov’s statement about the need for a professional, contract army. Where is Avakov’s statement about the need for a draft army?

      And where in the article does it refer to Avakov’s statement about the need for a draft army? belay
      Just yesterday Maidan authorities stated that Yanukovych "deliberately leaked Ukraine", abandoning the practice of conscription into the ranks of the country's power structures.

      Maidan authorities и Kiev authorities - this is far from one Avakov.

      Here, for example, Tyagnibok (March 2014):
      The leader of "Freedom" submitted to the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine a proposal to resume conscription in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
      According to Tyagnibok, it is possible to strengthen the defense capability of Ukraine by renewing military training lessons in secondary schools.

      But - bloody pastor (May 2014):
      Acting Head of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov signed a decree “On measures to increase the defense capability of the state”, which returns a mandatory draft for military service due to a conflict in the eastern regions of the state.
    2. Corporal Valera
      Corporal Valera 31 July 2015 00: 50
      0
      It’s strange. And the cons for what? The man logically outlined his TK.
    3. Corporal Valera
      Corporal Valera 31 July 2015 01: 01
      0
      Personally, in my opinion, there is also nothing sensational here. The situation is changing - the reaction to it is changing. In addition, the characters seem to be different. I'm not for kaklov, I'm against popalism
    4. ArhipenkoAndrey
      ArhipenkoAndrey 31 July 2015 08: 11
      0
      Who they write about, such a level, generally judging by the statements of the Outskirts politicians, the level is much lower than the average, therefore they would stop writing about Ukraine a long time ago, so they gain solidity speaking at all levels and climb into all the holes, which can come from the host table for zeal.
  11. Dikson
    Dikson 30 July 2015 17: 35
    0
    The next statement will obviously be a call to send someone else's army to defend Ukraine? Polish, Romanian, or German ..
  12. dima-fesko
    dima-fesko 30 July 2015 17: 35
    0
    And I like the article ... But seriously, (if someone will minus, leave comments), the severe clinical stage of the "disease" begins to pass. If this were said in any other country in the world, by any other minister, no one would be surprised.
    Another question is how to implement this, especially in this country and in the current situation with the current leadership!
  13. Abbra
    Abbra 30 July 2015 17: 37
    0
    Contractors are too busy ... There is a party of migrants to the Baltic states ... Redirect them to Ukraine. Thus, Ukraine will immediately fulfill two obligations to world civilization. He will take sicknesses into his arms, and teach them mov.
  14. novel68rus
    novel68rus 30 July 2015 17: 38
    +2
    the question is what shisha? it’s expensive to keep professionals .. and there’s no fool to die for a penny .. there’s not so much ideological ... soldier
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 30 July 2015 18: 19
      0
      Quote: novel68rus
      the question is what shisha? it’s expensive to keep professionals .. and there’s no fool to die for a penny .. there’s not so much ideological ...

      This is how America dumps 1240 "javelins" to Ukraine - in 404 they will be immediately sold and professionals will be hired for this money. laughing
  15. dk
    dk 30 July 2015 17: 39
    0
    It is correctly said: "Sometimes it is better to chew than to speak" Brains, like a g .... a mosquito.
  16. 2С5
    2С5 30 July 2015 17: 40
    +2
    ... the guard ... in the government, independence from each other and a general brain tumor ... feeling tryndets begin to suffer "dearly like a lousy, drain your neighbor, for your neighbor will rejoice when you drain you ... Avakov decided in one pocket ( You need a professional army, for this case it is not "Uysk gesheft can be fenced off and practically not shared with anyone ... you can also invite bandit formations such as" Azov "and others to a contract, otherwise there is no hope for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they steal, sabotage whole regiments, deserting ... but he is so much a mustache, adequately furnishes his support with a fortified area ...
  17. Persistent
    Persistent 30 July 2015 17: 40
    0
    Avakov said that it is necessary to immediately abandon the draft and transfer the army to a contract basis

    First you need to do all the people of the outskirts plastic surgery. As a result of this, everyone will be sewn 2 cow udders for reinforced milking of pennies for keeping clowns under the name of APU contract soldiers !!! laughing
  18. BOB044
    BOB044 30 July 2015 17: 41
    0
    Patients are all on their head. Even treatment does not help them.
  19. Ivan Slavyanin
    Ivan Slavyanin 30 July 2015 17: 45
    +3
    Yes, come on at least one way or another, but one end.
    1. Mikado
      Mikado 30 July 2015 22: 08
      0
      Joke. When ATO veterans meet, they ask each other - "What" cauldron "did you serve?"
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  20. VP
    VP 30 July 2015 17: 58
    +2
    Avakov’s positions are shaky, pepper began to engage in populism trying to earn points from the plebs.
    The winning topic is that people are afraid of military commissars like fire.
    But no one will cancel anything and will not replace anything.
    In addition to what can not afford, in addition to Kiev will not go to reduce the number of people, there is such a thing as loyalty and manageability.
    It's easier with conscripts. It is much more difficult with the "type of pro" - there will be collected all the huskies from the national terrbats who are used to spinning Kiev on a stake. Pravoseki from recent examples.
  21. pofigisst74
    pofigisst74 30 July 2015 18: 01
    0
    Quote: novel68rus
    the question is what shisha? it’s expensive to keep professionals .. and there’s no fool to die for a penny .. there’s not so much ideological ... soldier

    Probably it means that since you are a professional, you should have everything of your own. Bronik, hard hat, automatic, armored personnel carrier and a howitzer just in case. And you need to spend money on conscripts.
  22. BilliBoms09
    BilliBoms09 30 July 2015 18: 01
    0
    ... Zin, where is the money, Zin?
  23. Evgeny Khokhlov
    Evgeny Khokhlov 30 July 2015 18: 02
    +2
    They cannot dress and shod conscripts, and what will they pay to contract soldiers?
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 30 July 2015 18: 35
      +1
      Quote: Yevgeny Khokhlov
      They cannot dress and shod conscripts, and what will they pay to contract soldiers?

      They have already capitalized their own, half in Russia is sitting out .. Here and think about what Avakov is hinting at and who will sponsor the mercenaries .. (and where they will come and come from) to Ukraine ...
      How many lives ruined filth ... am
  24. am808s
    am808s 30 July 2015 18: 56
    0
    It is clear that he hopes for the Americans, they will be more expensive where they go to fend for ukrohernozem, and the more Ukrainians are distributed among the trunks, the less they will be indignant when they get it.
  25. moskowit
    moskowit 30 July 2015 18: 57
    0
    "Conversations, conversations, word for word stretches,
    the conversations will subside soon, and the MARASM will remain ... "

    May the author G. Serebryakov forgive me for the free interpretation of his poems .... sad
  26. demo
    demo 30 July 2015 19: 18
    0
    Note to Avakov.
    Consider the experience of the Holy See.
    Enough 100 guards from Switzerland.
    And the budget of Ukraine will pull.
    And the army is contracted.
    All with their own.
    Except for the existing warriors.

    To disperse them.
    Pensions do not pay.
    Property to sell.
    Share the money.
  27. gerodot
    gerodot 30 July 2015 19: 35
    0
    correctly and straitjackets to give out to all comers with placement in a separate room
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  29. Leader
    Leader 30 July 2015 20: 28
    +1
    Has he been promoted all day on Facebook? - Marshal of the Facebook troops ...
    When is there to fight corruption? There is no time - you need to fill the posts and collect likes!
  30. Altona
    Altona 30 July 2015 20: 29
    +5
    THE ESSENCE OF UKRAINE IN TWO DOCUMENTS.
    _______________________________________

    Congratulatory letter to Hitler after the capture of Kiev on September 23, 1941

    "Your Excellence! As the head of the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church, I convey to Your Excellence my heartfelt congratulations on the capture of the capital of Ukraine, the gold-domed city on the Dnieper - Kiev! .. We see in you the invincible commander of the incomparable and glorious German army. The cause of the destruction and eradication of Bolshevism , which you, the Fuehrer of the Greater German Reich, set yourself a goal in this campaign, provides your Excellence with the gratitude of the whole Christian world. The Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church knows about the true meaning of the mighty movement of the German people under your leadership ... I will pray to God for the blessing of victory, which will guarantee lasting peace for your Excellence, the German Army and the German People!
    Met. Andrey Sheptytsky "

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Congratulatory letter to Stalin, October 10, 1944

    "Hi and bow to the ruler of the USSR, commander-in-chief and grand marshal of the invincible Red Army Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin. After the victorious campaign from the Volga to San and beyond, you again annexed the western Ukrainian lands to Great Ukraine. For the fulfillment of the cherished desires and aspirations of the Ukrainians who for centuries considered themselves one people and wanted to be united in one state, the Ukrainian people bring you sincere gratitude. ”These bright events and the tolerance with which you treat our Church, aroused in our Church the hope that she, like all the people, will find in the USSR under By your leadership, complete freedom of work and development in prosperity and happiness. ”For all this follows you, the Supreme Leader, deep gratitude from all of us.
    Met. Andrey Sheptytsky "
  31. TankerBVTKKU
    TankerBVTKKU 30 July 2015 21: 28
    +1
    Only a fairly wealthy state can afford to maintain a contract army. Or limitrophs, which the rich protect. And in general, let the Minister of the Interior not get into his garden. There is the Moscow Region, the General Staff and even the adviser to the General Staff, Dmitro Yarosh.
    1. Mikado
      Mikado 30 July 2015 22: 05
      0
      He is God. And no one in life. This explains everything.
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  32. Mikado
    Mikado 30 July 2015 22: 03
    +1
    "The army needs to be transferred to a contract basis." Where is the money, Zin ?? Who's guilty? - You are to blame! And your kind, "rabbits" there are all sorts of "boxers", other "chocolate Lords". I will repeat myself. Tell me, is he really 3,14derast? Pees too much on social media, reminds one of a young girl. He just pees and nothing changes. Sooo cheap for a minister. But, I repeat, if you drip on the brains of the population for a whole year, then they will believe, tested on the relatives of my best friend. Ugh! Circus with horses for a year and a half!
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  34. atamankko
    atamankko 31 July 2015 00: 25
    +2
    Many movements, but few achievements.
  35. Star Huntsman
    Star Huntsman 31 July 2015 01: 49
    0
    I am for the Transcarpathian smuggler !! where to get the pros, do not borrow from the Russian Federation ???
  36. Sergey Vladimirovich
    Sergey Vladimirovich 31 July 2015 04: 38
    0
    It seems that Ukraine will soon become a serious competitor to all Russian circuses! Black and white clowning rushing for every taste! .. Or have you decided to earn money in the circus field? Statewide.
  37. Wolka
    Wolka 31 July 2015 05: 17
    0
    Well, why be cunning, it’s better just tell Mr. Avakov that Ukraine will resort to the services of private mercenary armies, well, foreign citizens who are specialists in their field work for you as ministers in the government and governors, so the army will be contractual, and who will be contract soldiers the question is not even the second or the third, but the next one, and if these "contractors" are still transferred to self-sufficiency, then these thugs will clean up any entrusted territory to zero, you will be happy, as if they will not let you down ... bully
  38. sgr291158
    sgr291158 31 July 2015 05: 37
    +1
    And what the contract soldiers will pay, there isn’t enough money for zhranin.
  39. Thompson
    Thompson 31 July 2015 12: 27
    0
    Quote: Baikonur
    No brain! language - instead of the brain!

    You are mistaken dear. sometimes they are not bad and they think, like this time.
    It has long been proven that the army on conscription fights well with external aggression, defense, but there is no contract.
    BUT !, in solving domestic problems, it is the contract army that shows itself in the "best" form, because emotionless and well motivated! And the conscript army ... the soldier understands that he is shooting at his people, neighbors, acquaintances, relatives ... and tomorrow he may be THERE! This is clearly shown by the example of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. So they combed in this direction !!! And who will be contracted and you don't need to go to the grandmother ...
  40. Leader
    Leader 1 August 2015 15: 17
    0
    Quote: Thompson
    But the army at the call ... the soldier realizes that he is shooting at his people, neighbors, acquaintances, relatives ... and tomorrow he himself may be there!

    Come on!
    And who then shot the demonstration in Novocherkassk in 1962? - not conscripts?
    The main thing: "correct" education and motivation! They were lifted from the barracks, running and running, the machine guns were prepared, "Look - these bastards are against Soviet power! At my command, fire in one volley!" ...
    That's all!