Russia at the bottom. Autumn knock bottom

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Russia at the bottom. Autumn knock bottom


Global business does not allow the state to fulfill its obligations to the people.

The socio-economic policy of the Russian state cannot be explained without the hypothesis that it was formed at the beginning of 1990, even in the Union, as a tool to plunder the “Soviet legacy” and legalize what was stolen in fashionable countries as personal wealth. Already there is not much left of the “inheritance”, and problems appear with legalization - but the machine is screwed in a Soviet way reliably and continues to thresh, destroying the country.

This explains the strikingly unchanged throughout all 27 years of national betrayal (counting from Gorbachev’s economic reforms that brought down the consumer market) “mistakes” and “flaws”. Liberalism as a service of the interests of global business, not its people, that were affected by the elements of state administration, total corruption, unpunished arbitrariness of monopolies, difficult access to justice, compression of the social sphere as a universal answer to any financial problem - everything that chokes our society is easily explained by this hypothesis and hardly explained otherwise.

Those who like to blame the Western sanctions on the consequences of their own policy should be reminded: the Russian economy stopped accelerating its growth with a sharp (38%!) Rise in oil prices back in 2011. In 2012, due to accession to the WTO on deliberately enslaving, essentially colonial conditions, the previously rapid investment growth was replaced by an investment decline: as it was repeatedly warned, “all other things being equal,” either goods or investments enter the country. From January to August 2013, industrial production was slightly lower than last year's. The panic capital flight and the weakening of the ruble began in January 2014 - even with expensive oil, when the West unleashing a new Cold War against us was impossible to imagine.

The notorious sanctions deprived Russia of external lending - but the main harm was caused by the categorical unwillingness of the liberals to respond to the new situation and replace external loans with internal ones. After all, the state differs from the family in that it not only can, but is obliged to issue money according to the needs of its economy (such emission does not cause inflation if the arbitrariness of monopolies is limited), but, denying national sovereignty, global business, through the hands of liberals serving it, does not allow the state to fulfill their duties to the people.

In addition, in order to issue its currency according to the needs of its economy, and not in the amount that the West allows, it is necessary to separate
speculative money from investment: otherwise, loans for the development of production will go to the foreign exchange market and bring it down like in the autumn of 1992.

Such restrictions were imposed on all of the developed countries at our maturity stage of financial markets (therefore they became developed).
Market US canceled them (in the form of the Glass-Stigoll law) only in 1999 year.

But “what is allowed to Jupiter, the bull is not allowed” - Russian liberals do not dare to even think about it: such restrictions will infringe on the interests of the mainly speculative global business they serve.

Therefore, they refuse to restrict financial speculation and almost equally regulate speculative and productive capital, which suffocates the latter - and with them the entire real sector, again, as in 1990, is deprived of credit.

Under the guise of fighting inflation (caused primarily by devaluations and arbitrariness of the monopolies, and not by the growth of the money supply), the liberals in the Medvedev government and the Bank of Russia have tightened their financial policy to the utmost. In 2014, the money supply increased by 2,2%, in January-May of this year - by 0,6%: taking into account the rise in prices, the real money supply shrank by 15% in less than a year and a half. This is how the liberals destroyed the Russian economy in the monstrous for the country and the people, but their beloved 1990s. Demonetisation gives rise to an aggravating "money hunger" and not only blocks development, but also returns us to the realities of that time.

The slowdown in economic growth (from 4,3% in 2011 to 0,6% in 2014) in January-May 2015 was replaced by a decline of 3,2%, and in May it reached, according to the Ministry of Economic Development, 4,9% ...

In June, the situation improved slightly: the industrial recession was reduced from May 5,5% to 4,8%, investment - from 7,6 to 7,1%, falling living standards - and altogether from 6,4 to 3,5%. But all this does not change the trend and therefore it comforts weakly.

The fall in the standard of living, the fear of the future, becoming overwhelmed by the loans collected in the "bright past" lead to a faster curtailment of consumption.

Of course, the June decline in retail turnover by 9,4% is better than the decline by 15% announced by the “profile” vice-premier Golodets — but the jokes in the “sick before sweating” style about their own lives have already ceased to amuse.

At the same time, the federal budget literally chokes on money: unused balances in its accounts on 1 in July amounted to 9,2 trillion rubles. With this money you can build a new Russia, more comfortable and modern than the current one, or more than seven months to finance all the expenses of the state, without collecting any taxes or fees.

But in accordance with the "Dvorkovich maxim", according to which Russia must pay for the financial stability of the United States, these funds are frozen, and their bulk is invested in US and eurozone securities.

Receiving inflationary revenues, the state not only does not increase spending in proportion to price increases (this is the only way to fulfill its promises in practice, not in words), but also reduces them, further worsening the economic situation and aggravating the lack of money. Cuts in spending create social and political tensions in the regions that threaten to turn into a full-fledged political crisis, often literally “on level ground”.

In September and December, the situation will worsen due to the peaks of payments on external debt - however, due to the cessation of foreign lending to Russia, these peaks will be the last significant ones.

In the fall, the strangulation of an agonizing economy with an excessively tight financial policy will require a new weakening of the ruble - at least to keep the recession within the symbolically significant 5%.

Dreams of import substitution, issued as policies, will also play a role. Without supporting the weakening of the ruble by either cheap loans, free production capacity and skilled labor, no easy access to infrastructure, or a stable sales market,
Liberals understand that devaluation remains the only way to support the economy at least temporarily, without improving anything in it.

The weakening of the ruble will be spontaneous - due to the neutrality of the Bank of Russia when a business leaves the currency market due to the payment of external debts. The positive effect of devaluation on production is steadily decreasing (already the depreciation of the exchange rate carried out from early January to mid-March 2014 was “enough” for only three months - until mid-July), and the negative social effect (primarily in the form of price increases) is growing and has long been exceeded all possible benefits for society from it.

Therefore, devaluation, accelerating the rise in prices, will increase the accumulated social tension, which only until then does not break the “Crimean” ratings - although it will temporarily support the economy and will allow saving a certain number of jobs without budget subsidies.

At the beginning of 2016, the economy will somewhat strengthen: exporters will continue to accumulate funds, and they will no longer have large-scale payments on foreign debts. The remaining funds at their disposal will grow - and they will support both the banking system and the real sector, into which they will partially leak.

But with the economy wide open (the conditions for joining the WTO put Russia in worse conditions than, for example, an immeasurably more competitive China), exporters, as well as others, will not have large-scale investment opportunities. Therefore, money will leave the country - if not in the order of repayment of debts of past years, then in the form of capital flight, driving Russia deeper and deeper into an all-encompassing socio-economic crisis in the style of the 1990s.

Without a radical change in the socio-economic policy, without moving from plundering and destroying the country to its complex creation, we are in for chaos, disorganization and Maidan, which can lead not only to the disintegration of Russia, but also to the destruction of Russian civilization itself.

It is possible that liberals serving global business, including those holding key posts in the government and the Bank of Russia, are striving for such a development of events consciously: it will allow global business to seize all the significant resources of our country almost cost-effectively and quickly dispose of everything it does not need.

But even if the liberal socio-economic policy that returns us to 1990 is the result of conscientious folly and misery, rather than deliberate betrayal, it’s not easier for anyone: the threats it generates do not weaken and will intensify until it disappears into oblivion with their carriers - or until they push us into another terrible catastrophe.
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  1. -147
    31 July 2015 14: 40
    Lord, when are these clicks to calm down. We all die, we die, we won’t die at all, and well-wishers can’t calm down. Croak and croak
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      1. +216
        31 July 2015 15: 21
        Although I am a supporter of Putin, but gradually begins to accumulate dissatisfaction with what is happening in the country and it’s not at all sanctions; on the contrary, it’s rather an indulgence for liberalists .. everyone can see that nothing is happening in the economy and spells help a little if you have such a profit in fat years, they didn’t even make a jerk Putin didn’t come close to this quietly shut up 10 percent. GDP growth per year about competition with China is not even funny. Putin will soon have one way out, either from spells to action, or everything will end, as always, Russia is actively loved first, then we don’t hate much less ...
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        2. +58
          31 July 2015 16: 03
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          nonsense is going on in the economy


          Yeah, the whole policy of the economic bloc comes down to:

          temporarily support the economy without improving anything in it.
          1. +29
            31 July 2015 16: 26
            Quote: APES
            the whole policy of the economic bloc comes down to
            the fact that the government as a whole and the economic bloc in particular are executive and does not have its own policy.
            And the main directions of foreign and domestic policy are determined by the president.
            1. +58
              31 July 2015 19: 39
              Global business does not allow the state to fulfill its obligations to the people.

              And for the 15 years of Putin’s rule it was impossible to attend to the restoration of industry? Need sanctions and cheaper oil?
              1. -24
                1 August 2015 00: 59
                Add the group "made in Russia" on VKontakte - the mood will rise
                1. +40
                  1 August 2015 06: 48
                  And there is no group "Ruined in Russia"? There will be more notes.
                  1. +2
                    1 August 2015 08: 02
                    Yes for every taste! Particularly sad comrades also gather in a circle. Googling your name?
                    1. -1
                      3 August 2015 03: 46
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                2. +13
                  1 August 2015 10: 37
                  If a person does not see the changes around him, then all these "achievements of the national economy from the Internet" are like a drum for a hare.
                  1. +14
                    1 August 2015 11: 05
                    Well then, in order to see the "changes around you" you can try to change something around you? Personally, I see changes. And for the better. Not the USSR, of course, but thanks for that too, as with Misha and Bori. I would like to immediately and with a checker, but the reality is such that it turns out not immediately and in small steps
                    1. +7
                      1 August 2015 13: 20
                      Well, how can you lift your ass from the sofa and change something around you. Sweep the street near the house or mow the lawn. Let the stupid Germans deal with this - we want everything to happen according to pike orders, and we will sit on the sofa and water the government with shit. Well, the illustrious liberals, who are like the glitches of an alcoholic - everywhere. What touches me the most is how the crowd loves slogans thrown in. They shouted that it was necessary to introduce a state monomoly on alcohol and everything would be gorgeous, then nationalize oil production. Well, oil production is almost nationalized, but now the reverse has gone - they started crying about the oil needle. Well, of course, the panacea to shoot a thousand officials and businessmen - they say then it’s sure that happiness will come. I always ask myself a question - do these people really believe in this or does the herd instinct just work? And NOBODY AND NEVER says that you have to work like in the West in order to live no worse. But we regularly break our country and wait for happiness to come and everything will work out on its own. In general, the truth is that our people do not have a worse enemy than themselves. Not a single enemy could make Russia as much evil as its people. And it began a thousand years ago with feudal fragmentation, then the Time of Troubles, revolutions, coups, 1985, 1991 and so on. And now, again, the awl has stuck in the ass - it remains only to ruin the Russian Federation and repeat the 90s. I explain for absolutely t-u-p-s-s. This power is the best in the last 50 years, which means it will not be better for sure. Those who are now inciting people to riots are the real fifth column. not liberal clowns. If you want to calculate the fifth column, just go over the comments for this article.
                      1. 0
                        1 August 2015 14: 47
                        Moreover, the same comrades a couple of days ago oikil in an article about the forces of special operations of the United States. Like, ahhhhhh, what kind of Americans are bad and mean, panic, panimaish want to bring us power and change. Yes, we don’t need any. Do it yourself
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                      3. +6
                        1 August 2015 19: 36
                        Quote: anip
                        About how he said. Sure, these are bad people

                        good drinks

                        Quote: g1v2
                        ..... the truth is that our people have no worse enemy than themselves. Not a single enemy could make Russia as much evil as its people

                        Somewhere I already heard something like that ....
                        AND! Well here!

                      4. +8
                        1 August 2015 20: 30
                        Dear, you are sculpting quotes out of place. About the "bad people". The next "title" of course you will get, but read the posts carefully. Personally, I love and respect my people, but I realize that they will skimp on conclusions and tough on punishment.
                      5. +1
                        2 August 2015 21: 09
                        Nifkuril ???? Reincarnation of Hypodermic on our site?
                      6. +7
                        2 August 2015 02: 30
                        THE PEOPLE WANT A LOT OF THINGS, BUT WITH THIS WANTS TO HERE EVERYTHING WILL BE HAPPENED BY THE PITCH DELIVERY. And if this does not happen, then obviously the enemies are to blame for everything. lol If everything was simple in life - a thousand people shot and paradise came on earth, then all countries would only do this, and Africa would live the coolest - they have no problems with executions. But in life there is no cotton - once in ladies. One has to do things and over time the changes become obvious. One who says that he does not see positive changes compared with the 90s or a liar or a blind man. Certainly on kitchen or sofa Vasya Pupkin always knows how to raise Russia or win the world football championship. At the same time, Vasek is definitely not able to equip his life, but he knows how to achieve world happiness.
                        As for power. Who has been better in the last 50 years? Brezhnev, in which the lag from the west became obvious, or one-day Chernenko with Andropov? What do they remember? Trapping people for lunch? Or humpback ruined everything and everyone? Or Benya? I have no illusions. Those who come after GDP will be worse. Not because it is perfect, but because there are no better candidates and, as experience shows, there is a chance that someone will come better in the area of ​​error. In fact, in recent years the USSR has been moving by inertia. Its development ended with the Khrushchev-Zhukov coup. Khrushchev was still trying to do something, but he clearly did not have enough brains, and everyone else, until hunchbacked, calmly watched the Union slide into a hole. Then came the humpback and trampled him. I well remember the 80s and especially the 90s, it’s obvious to me personally that for the last 35 years it’s better than people didn’t live now. Tapes and Oceans are clogged with people hung with purchases, roads are clogged with cars, even in jewelry lines. Almost any working person can go on vacation to any country in the world. When was this? Of course, there are many places where healthy men sit on the necks of pensioners on their retirement, while at the same time, in other regions, working hands are sorely needed. A rolling stone gathers no moss . You can’t earn money for yourself - go to work, and filling the Internet with whining - only admit your inferiority.
                      7. +19
                        2 August 2015 07: 10
                        Yes, yes ... I am a small businessman in the past. I have never asked for support from the state. The last three years he interrupted on bread and water (cops, tax). But go to ANY public place - security, bailiffs ... Ambals under two meters tall At the very highest 4 qualification workers + higher technical education, but if I live not in Moscow, then the maximum I can count on is 25 thousand rub . per month. Sorry, but this is also bread and water. The state now does not need welders, Locksmiths, electricians, joiners ... There is no production.
                      8. +4
                        2 August 2015 10: 29
                        Well, I'm an engineer for example. I'm not complaining about life. There is a demand for techies. And the same welders or electricians are many where needed. Another thing is that in different regions the situation is different. But at the same time, the demand for techies in the RF as a whole is stable. At one time, quite a lot of people received an engineering education, but then worked not in their specialty. In my opinion, the solution to the problem is the obligatory state distribution of those who received free higher education. He worked for 3 years, and then go wherever you want. A person will get involved and continue to work in his specialty.
                      9. -1
                        2 August 2015 21: 12
                        Even you do not need such fucking ones. Come to Alma-Ata. I will find a job for you ...
                      10. +2
                        2 August 2015 21: 14
                        Reminds the daughter of a naval officer with his ambiguity laughing
                      11. 0
                        3 August 2015 00: 13
                        The daughter of a Soviet officer. It was like that
                      12. 0
                        2 August 2015 07: 33
                        I have a wording about this - "We want to live like in Europe, but do everything our own way!" well if not vice versa))
                      13. +1
                        3 August 2015 07: 28
                        You, my dear, have lived a life and what’s called NOT SMOKING! Apparently slavish thinking struck. How many years have you been working ??? Well? Is life better for you? You live like everyone else in the same shit. So it’s better to shut up and don’t blather, because in your words it carries nonsense and nonsense, because your words are a call for slaves: Go to work! And a man must work, not work. Slaves work.
                      14. 0
                        3 August 2015 12: 00
                        Quote: g1v2
                        As for power. Who has been better in the last 50 years? Brezhnev, in which the lag from the west became apparent, or one-day Chernenko with Andropov? What do they remember?

                        You did not quite correctly understand that the person above wanted to say, he did not say a word about bad power and did not compare anyone with anyone. The 67th meant that over the past ten years - there were quite a lot of chances for development, a significant breakthrough from the 80-90s and a move away from resource-based trade.
                      15. +17
                        2 August 2015 03: 59
                        Don’t be pathetic. The man is right. They themselves are very much to blame. We want all ... to be all, but it turns out so that we ourselves. I will give three living examples without thinking. I myself am from the Volgograd region, examples, respectively, from here.
                        1. We have built a bridge across the Volga, which is "dancing". But besides the bridge, sections of roads and road junctions were also built in the area of ​​Krasnoslobodsk and Sr. Akhtuba. In view of the fact that part of the development took place on private land plots, the region began to buy out their plots from the owners. Good money was paid for summer cottages, for buildings on these sites. But the most interesting thing was with private houses in which registration is allowed, there they additionally paid a certain amount (and also rather big) to everyone who was registered in the dwelling. That's when the dead souls appeared. In an ancient hut, 50-100 people were prescribed specifically to cut down more dough. There was a small part of the hucksters from the authorities, but they were quickly brought to clean water. Basically, the owners of homeless people themselves prescribed it. If you think this is normal, then you can skip reading.
                        2. A few years ago we had a drought, fires started. Three or four large-scale fires were. Putin then was in my prime minister, came here. You were boiling too then, after the first fire, fire victims began to rebuild houses at the expense of the budget, help with money. The people cleared this business, and later, when the old cottages fell, none of the owners was in a hurry to extinguish. They themselves set fire to again cut the dough for free.
                        3. The example is so-so weak relative to the previous ones. But if in the first two about profit, then here is about our swine consumer .. culture that has become commonplace. Now the heat is standing, the people on the beaches are only saving. I came to Akhtuba. We have such a river here. He left the car on the site in front of the boat, went ashore and oh .. l. Mountains of garbage, broken bottles, tires. Our government is probably to blame for this too, right?
                      16. +6
                        2 August 2015 16: 00
                        and another example:
                        Every spring, peasants and women with bags wander along the roads, collecting garbage from the curbside. Then all this is loaded into a multi-ton dump truck and for disposal, in a landfill.
                        This is how we ourselves create employment and jobs. We spend our poor budget money.
                        Draw your own conclusions. hi
                      17. +5
                        2 August 2015 21: 19
                        So it’s clean where they clean .... And not to litter, it’s in the bright future ... Then your money-holder might not be needed either. Or are you from the housing and communal services?
                      18. +1
                        3 August 2015 14: 05
                        No, dear, purely where they clean FOR YOURSELF, that is - they do not litter, they have a certain culture.
                        Example, we go fishing, often savages, in Karelia, on the islands in Ladoga, all bivouacs are clean, tourists clean everything after themselves, and they also leave empty garbage bags for the next, and finding salt, a sponge and detergent in the parking lot is not a problem .
                      19. +2
                        3 August 2015 13: 11
                        laughing he wrote without pathos, they are to blame for many things themselves, but:
                        1. everyone should do his own thing, a shoemaker sews boots, a builder builds, etc. and if I begin to build bridges, sew boots or into agriculture, by education and work experience, an oilman (gasman), then xs knows what will come of it. Help (often stupidly freebie) of the state is an important aspect, but it needs total control and finding out the reasons for the occurrence of the incident and its elimination, but we have more on the principle that the sunk burned out and died - we allocate 10-100 thousand, a million and all. There are people who fall under the flood every year - at the same time they do not want to move, and the authorities do not make a dam or embankment, but help is allocated almost every year.
                        2. It is difficult to fight freebies and other amateurs, the only option is to assess the cost and condition of the housing stock in fire places, then you can pay for a rotten house for the same rotten house what but here for rampant corruption such a training ground will be rather sickly.
                        3. Regarding garbage and behavior - such a culture, some live like pigs and behave the same. A simple example from life is also a playground, girls gather (and sometimes mothers), boys for 20 years and more smoke, sit and drink beer. Or they walk along the street - finished smoking, drank beer, and bring a bull-calf to the urn 20 meters away, either the conscience doesn’t give the bottle, or the hands do not have any strength ...
                      20. +2
                        1 August 2015 19: 27
                        Well, the famous liberals, who are like the glitches of a drunk everywhere.

                        Probably right - the notorious.
                      21. +5
                        1 August 2015 21: 15
                        And you would be in the shoes of the common people, then you would say. By the way, our people can work no worse than your Germans.
                      22. +1
                        2 August 2015 21: 19
                        Who are you?
                      23. +9
                        2 August 2015 03: 08
                        For some reason, only from officials and near people I always hear that you need to start with yourself. They mean, let% lo work hard and hope for a bright future, and we’ll somehow live on in the old way, in our own way (like there are enough fools for our age). Even if all the hard workers cross over and start working like the Chinese, the same thing, and our employers do not like to pay a lot, and our officials all want to eat well for some reason, drive expensive cars, have a nice rest over the hill and live in their considerable Horomakh, here they are for some reason not going to change themselves. And why is this?)))
                      24. +4
                        2 August 2015 03: 28
                        a very true remark, a feeling that they are trying to drive us into the head that people, that is, we decide something ... we have been an electorate for a long time and no more than that, and even when we choose the worst of them, the worst is difficult to wait for a breakthrough ... at least lie on the couch You can’t reverse the general economic strategy with a hare, it’s only revolutions or, to be more precise, riots begin from below, and the leader always determines the advancement - it’s time for Putin to change the general vector of the country's development
                      25. +3
                        2 August 2015 21: 21
                        Rough work .... Troliki. Practice on the censor))))))))
                      26. +2
                        3 August 2015 09: 33
                        Quote: vasiliev yu
                        For some reason, only from officials and near people I always hear that you need to start with yourself.

                        Well, you have to start with someone. Well, what else can a "little" person in an unjust society - just change himself and help his neighbor change. How else? Well, we will put the officials in jail, we will shoot someone, so new ones will come and everything will be the same (if not worse). Officials do not fly to us from Mars, they come out of people like us, with our vices and shortcomings. If a person thinks from malice that he has the right to offend the weak, to steal "nobody's", if he considers the cops to be "goats", and he lives by Zon's concepts. How can the right officials be possible in such a society?
                      27. 0
                        2 August 2015 20: 44
                        But do not tell me where to work? Those plants that remain themselves reduce production. And I have not heard something about the discovery of new ones for a long time!
                      28. +2
                        2 August 2015 21: 23
                        Do you have a job? I'll give it to you ..... What can you do?
                      29. -5
                        3 August 2015 07: 22
                        So go and work SLAVE!
                      30. 0
                        3 August 2015 08: 13
                        So basically all calls come down to the fact that you need to change the system.
                        But the "system" does not want to change - it already grabbed up to w-ny and continues to grab. This cannot go on for long. This is the popular message!
                      31. +7
                        3 August 2015 09: 37
                        Say "sweep near the house?" Say "mow the lawn?" Here you sincerely touch me! Is it really difficult to understand that Russia is not the West, and even if you start to work hard like a damn thing, nothing will change in the country. It is precisely here that it is said that all the good things that you do with your labor will go into the pocket of Uncle Semu (tm).
                        Go out and sweep the yard, and at the same time give a bunch of your hard-earned homeowners associations or the Criminal Code, which have laid down such tariffs for servicing common house property, that this yard should be swept with a gold broom with inlay. But this does not mean at all that if you swept the yard, then the amount in the receipt at the end of the month will decrease for you or your neighbors.
                        That's right, mow the lawn, and let the chairman of the HOA / UK / ZhSK put money for this service in his pocket.
                        And in everything so that no matter what useful you do, you are unlikely to do something for people, you will do for uncle.
                        By the way, 90% of the population of Russia now work for at least 2-3 people, because private companies have reduced everything that could be reduced and everything that cannot be cut either.
                        Of course, I understand the call, let’s make our own life better and don’t scold the authorities ...
                        But to make this life better is possible only with a certain state policy. People went to build the BAM in the USSR, it wasn’t dreamed by any Europeans what sacrifice was for the common good, and you are talking about some lawn ... But these people knew and believed that all the improvements would go to them, people, not to some oligarch, and therefore did.
                        Now we are talking about the fact that we have no guarantees that we will improve our life, and not the life of Uncle Sema, or Uncle Vasya, or Uncle Chubais, when we go to make our efforts. And with the current state of financial policy in the country, all efforts will go to dust, at least ordinary people will not get anything from them.
                      32. +1
                        3 August 2015 12: 20
                        Under Capello, the football team for the first time in 12 years went to the World Cup.
                        Why then change it, probably the fifth column is to blame.
                        A question to the author of the article. If everything is so simple and the power is divided into "liberal traitors" and "patriots", then won't one person in the country appoint them? So we still have "patriots" or "liberals" in power, what I can't understand? What prevents the appointment of “patriots? What is the name, who is against the“ patriots? ”I would like to know the enemy by sight.
                  2. -3
                    1 August 2015 14: 29
                    Well, how can you not see the changes? The first in 15 years, salaries and pensions have been raised, paid on time, I will not list all the positive changes
                    I’ll dwell only on one thing. Our small town is only 22 thousand people, if 15 years ago there were very few cars in the city, now the car fleet has increased significantly and mainly by foreign cars, and which cottages are being built in the private sector. I remember Soviet-era food stores where the stench of expired products was constantly on, now supermarkets are earth and sky. Despite the sanctions, the people are not starving, the truth is that the goods have risen in price a little, but we will survive it, we are worried and not like that.
                    1. +13
                      1 August 2015 14: 52
                      Quote: go21zd45few
                      Well, how can you not see the changes? The first in 15 years, salaries and pensions have been raised, paid on time,

                      What? belay I, so, only tsyfiri on the price tags in the boutiques increased. And the salary, I think it’s in my pocket, Sev Railway, index the salary, and then cut the bonus. If earlier it depended on you, now, if someone somewhere on the road lajanul. then you won’t see the prize, in general there isn’t. Now, how can we not meet the benefit, before once quarterly they indexed, according to inflation, horseradish knows which sucker is from one finger, then 1,3%, then even more interesting, now, once every six months, cho, we don’t pay bonuses, like saving necessary. I don’t understand whether it’s naive, go21zd45few RU, or an economist what
                      1. +9
                        1 August 2015 18: 30
                        Quote: perepilka
                        I don’t understand whether it’s naive, go21zd45few RU, or an economist

                        That is some boss.
                      2. +4
                        1 August 2015 19: 52
                        Quote: anip
                        Quote: perepilka
                        I don’t understand whether it’s naive, go21zd45few RU, or an economist

                        That is some boss.

                        What are you, what kind of boss? The bosses do not care about our simple everyday problems. They have their own concerns, of a "universal" scale. As he wrote (frowning strongly lol ) one of the local Voshnyh "chiefs" - already tired of his whining, stupid whiners and provocateurs! laughing (In general, I'm surprised that articles of this kind are published here) So this is not a boss, this is an ordinary citizen who works out his 30 kopecks for a comment (or 30 rubles ... Such workers must have their salaries indexed, otherwise there will soon be no more people willing to give praise " heaven. ")
                      3. +1
                        2 August 2015 03: 18
                        Quote: Dr. Livesey
                        As one of the local "bosses" wrote (frowning strongly lol), they were already tired of their whining, stupid whiners and provocateurs

                        Thank you +100500 drinks
                      4. +2
                        2 August 2015 09: 35
                        This is not the one who loves to sneak people in slippers openly?
                      5. +5
                        1 August 2015 20: 38
                        And the orphans gathered here, right? How many plasmas do everyone have at home? And under the window there is a car where to put? And Stalin, in between, had two suits and one boots. Ah, well, another 800 p. on the book. That's when we compare with Stalin in living standards, then it will be possible to sing all-singing songs
                      6. +11
                        1 August 2015 21: 35
                        Quote: Corporal Valera
                        That's when we compare with Stalin in living standards, then it will be possible to sing all-singing songs
                        No, it will be right - that’s when the level of production and the standard of living grow as they grew from 21 to 53 years, then it will be possible to calm down.

                        It would be foolish to think that socialism can be built on the basis of poverty and deprivation, on the basis of reducing personal needs and lowering people's living standards to the standard of living of the poor, who also does not want to remain poor anymore and rushes up to a prosperous life. Who needs such, so to speak, socialism? This would not be socialism, but a caricature of socialism. Socialism can be built only on the basis of the rapid growth of the productive forces of society, on the basis of the abundance of products and goods, on the basis of the prosperous life of the working people, on the basis of the rapid growth of culture. For socialism, Marxist socialism, does not mean a reduction in personal needs, but their all-out expansion and flourishing, not a limitation or refusal to satisfy these needs, but a comprehensive and complete satisfaction of all the needs of culturally developed working people.
                        I.V Stalin T.13 p. 359
                      7. +7
                        2 August 2015 01: 08
                        So we will not quarrel with you, because I am not against socialism, but on the contrary, I consider it the only possible future of Russia. Only not Marxist socialism. By chance, while reading "Capital" (after all, you read it?) Did not notice such a thing that only the owners of the means of production are rotting there; people who are really doing something. And almost no interest is mentioned. What is it for? I, after all, for Stalinist socialism
                      8. +7
                        2 August 2015 01: 24
                        Quote: Corporal Valera
                        for I am not against socialism, but rather, I consider it the only possible future for Russia.
                        .......
                        I, after all, for Stalinist socialism

                        Stalinist socialism with a Putin face? It's funny ...

                        Quote: Corporal Valera
                        I would leave Volodya. One hope for him

                        Do you know a joke about a Jewish priest in a bathhouse?
                        You either remove the cross or put on your underpants.
                      9. +5
                        2 August 2015 01: 54
                        Quote: Jintonic
                        Gin and tonic

                        HOLIDAY, BROTHER !!!
                        FOR THE AIRBORNE FORCES !!!! GUARD,
                        URA_AAAAAAAA!
                      10. +1
                        2 August 2015 02: 08
                        Slinger SU  Today, 01: 54 ↑
                        ..C happy holiday !!
                        Here's the "difference in 1 letter" and the result? wink soldier
                      11. +1
                        2 August 2015 02: 18
                        Quote: bubalik
                        Here's the "difference in 1 letter" and the result?

                        I missed something drinks
                      12. +1
                        2 August 2015 02: 22
                        Stroporez SU  Today, 02: 18 ↑ New


                        ,,, but not everything is normal ,, drinks

                        (if only the moderators for the flood did not arrest)
                      13. +4
                        2 August 2015 02: 32
                        Quote: bubalik
                        (if only the moderators for the flood did not arrest)

                        Today, even cops do not knit laughing good
                      14. +2
                        2 August 2015 22: 02
                        NO SCY! From the Chinese "Keep your presence of mind ...." drinks drinks
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                      16. +1
                        2 August 2015 22: 00
                        Those who are happy with the holiday are drunk for three days))))) GLORY OF THE AIRCRAFT !!!!!!!!!
                      17. +1
                        2 August 2015 01: 57
                        And clever what, have something to say?
                      18. +3
                        2 August 2015 02: 13
                        Quote: Corporal Valera
                        And clever what, have something to say?

                        Why do you need it?
                        Continue to write about the victory of socialism under the leadership of Putin.
                        So at least funny.
                      19. 0
                        2 August 2015 20: 11
                        Why not. Glad I made you funny. Apparently, this is not difficult. Already you can go over to the personality. I look forward to
                      20. 0
                        2 August 2015 22: 06
                        And to you, why? You are from one garbage dump! Pursuant to the directives, so to speak! Dohrena thaw you in the spring))))) soldier bully drinks
                      21. 0
                        2 August 2015 22: 03
                        Yes, at least 3 kilos! Only to you = why?
                      22. +2
                        3 August 2015 00: 59
                        In my opinion, jokes and religion are like Charlie Abdo. They can roll up between the eyes. Which word infuriates you more "socialism" or "Putin"?
                      23. +6
                        2 August 2015 02: 02
                        Quote: Corporal Valera
                        So we do not quarrel, because I am not against socialism, but rather, I consider it the only possible future for Russia
                        Socialist-tramp? Oh well laughing

                        only owners of the means of production, i.e. people who really do something
                        What wonderful people ...



                        And almost no loan interest is mentioned. What is it for?
                        To unconfirmed speculation is obvious ...

                        Volume 3, chapters 21 to 47.

                        I, after all, for Stalinist socialism
                        Socialism can be built only on the basis of the rapid growth of the productive forces of society, on the basis of the abundance of products and goods, on the basis of the prosperous life of the working people, on the basis of the rapid growth of culture. For socialism, Marxist socialismmeans not a reduction in personal needs, but their all-out expansion and flourishing, not limitation or refusal to satisfy these needs, but comprehensive and complete satisfaction of all the needs of culturally developed working people.
                        I.V Stalin T.13 p. 359

                        Stalin: So it turns out: some study the history of the party and do not consider themselves obliged to study Marx; others study dialectical materialism and do not consider themselves obligated to study the history of the party.
                        And now, party historians are in a stir: there is party history, there is historical materialism, two different disciplines, they argue. This functional splitting, it confused the consciousness of people, and therefore they consider the exit of the party history course to be the greatest event.
                        There is no great event here. But since you split Marxism into parts, into the history of the party, into diamat, into historical materialism, no one wants to study all these disciplines. So there was a commotion in people's heads. Meanwhile, this book is remarkable in that it combines all this. The whole trick, the whole secret, is this.
                        Bedin: That is perfectly correct, Comrade. Stalin.
                        Stalin. Party historians must be Marxist lecturers. Is this true?
                        Bedin. Absolutely correct remark, comrade Stalin. Our task is for both philosophers and historians to learn to study Marxism-Leninism as a whole.
                        Stalin. And what kind of historians are they if they did not study Marxism?.
                        I. Stalin T.18 s.159
                      24. 0
                        2 August 2015 22: 12
                        I believe nothing ..... MLF in a free interpretation))) Lacuna from beginning to endF))))) Pure Carlson with Engelson)))) The game was equal, played two g ... on
                      25. 0
                        3 August 2015 01: 14
                        Plusanul. The knowledge of the subject is felt.
                      26. 0
                        2 August 2015 21: 57
                        Chet kikos is some kind of obvious distortion. The owners of the means of production are capitalists ... And without lending interest, the development of production is not possible. Therefore, under the socialist path of development, ownership of the means of production belonged to the state, and therefore avoided the participation of bank (borrowed) capital. Banking oligarchy.
                      27. +1
                        6 August 2015 02: 01
                        You have a logical mistake: the owners of production are capitalists, there is no production without interest, socialism is the property of the state in a joint venture, socialism avoided the participation of borrowed capital. Continuing your chain, socialism could not develop. The state was a capitalist, but avoided loan interest. How so? So you can develop without it
                      28. +3
                        2 August 2015 04: 13
                        It is beautifully written, only my grandmother dispossessed my family for having one cow in my family for seven mouths. They went around the world with a knapsack. Then, after the war, which she was a radio operator from the beginning to the end, Stalingrad restored. She told me a lot about how everything was there. A terrible and hungry time. I doubt very much that today anyone will agree to such victims.
                      29. +3
                        2 August 2015 07: 20
                        And how much can you, like Moses, drive people through the Sinai Desert?
                      30. +1
                        2 August 2015 22: 18
                        How much is noona, so much is mona ..... laughing
                      31. +1
                        3 August 2015 01: 41
                        ... the people didn’t drive a damn Moses in the desert - he was engaged in sanitation - burned the settlements affected by the epidemic ..
                      32. 0
                        2 August 2015 15: 11
                        Quote: ti_rex76
                        my grandmother dispossessed my family for having one cow in the family for seven mouths
                        Yah? And there is evidence of this tale?

                        She told me a lot about how everything was there. A terrible and hungry time.
                        And what a happy time it was under the priest-king and the Provisional Government, she did not tell?

                        I doubt very much that today anyone will agree to such victims.
                        They have already agreed so ... And those who doubt it are being dripped onto Moscow, while those who do not want to agree are forced to.

                        The modern system is capitalist. This means that the world is divided into two opposite camps, the camp of a small handful of capitalists and the camp of the majority, the proletarians. The proletarians work day and night, but nonetheless they remain poor. The capitalists do not work, but nonetheless they are rich. And this is not because the proletarians, as if, lack intelligence, and the capitalists are brilliant, but because the capitalists take away the fruits of the labor of the proletarians, because the capitalists exploit the proletarians.
                        I. Stalin T.1 s.331
                      33. -1
                        3 August 2015 08: 34
                        Do you need a fairy tale confirmation ?!
                        Well, well ... You know, in many families letters to the prosecutor’s office were preserved (they were sometimes returned along with a certificate during rehabilitation). People wrote: even though my daddy died in your camp, you will restore his honest name, bosses. The fist, of course, was. Miroed. Forester with the damned tsarism. Thief and bribe-teller definitely.
                      34. -2
                        2 August 2015 22: 16
                        And where did you draw so beautiful from? With claudia at the ready and the memory of a repressed grandmother? Like a Bandera member? "Not an unuchik? I was shot ...." laughing
                      35. +3
                        2 August 2015 23: 36
                        From Volgograd.
                        Actually, this was not about repression, but about dispossession. But you read in my opinion even worse than you write. I have nothing to do with Ukraine. Nationality - Chuvash. Any questions?
                      36. +1
                        3 August 2015 08: 36
                        From Kazakhstan? Take a trip, maybe there is still something left from the "Bandera" in your steppes. And yes - there were ONLY criminals and "Bandera" members. I believe so.
                      37. 0
                        2 August 2015 21: 45
                        Who wants to work = looking for ways. And who does not want, reasons ....
                      38. +2
                        2 August 2015 18: 35
                        But we can rejoice over the Russian Railways, until 2030, our state will invest in the highways 7 trillion 200 billion rubles for the construction of 4500 kilometers of tracks, associated communications and trains.
                      39. 0
                        2 August 2015 22: 23
                        Etozh hastily, if you transfer to half a liter? So for the money you can compose a circumnavigation in aswalt, if skillfully !!!!! Uh, guys, can we master it?
                    2. +8
                      1 August 2015 18: 31
                      Quote: go21zd45few
                      a little truth increased the price of goods

                      Yes, nothing, absolutely bullshit. The commercials went up as much as the ruble fell. And so yes, life has become "better".
                    3. Alf
                      +10
                      1 August 2015 19: 24
                      Quote: go21zd45few
                      and which cottages are being built in the private sector.

                      And what plants have opened in your town? And how many of them have you closed?
                      a little truth increased the price of goods
                      ?
                      Have you come to a store for a long time, and not just?
                      I remember Soviet-era food stores where the stench of expired products constantly stood, now supermarkets are earth and sky.

                      And in these supermarkets whose products are produced and from whose raw materials made are sold? If in Soviet times I could safely eat potatoes from vegetables, then now, having eaten potatoes from Magnit or Crossroads, I can only guess whether the bottom will be knocked out or not knocked out?
                      and which cottages are being built in the private sector.

                      Have you also bought a cottage or continue to live in a house-apartment, inherited from your parents?
                      Despite the sanctions, the people are not starving,

                      I also see how full carts are taken out of Auchan, but this does not mean that all people are packed in it. Ask people how their diet has changed over the past year. They began to eat less meat, more and more on noodles, and they are switching potatoes.
                      The first in 15 years, salaries and pensions have risen,

                      Do you remember how much oil has jumped over the years? After all, we fed exclusively on oil and gas. Energy prices have collapsed, but we have, by and large, no industry. In a year and a half, the stabilization fund will be sucked out and ... hello, "nineties" And if we consider that our overseas pid..gan..e-uh..partners are unlikely to stay on the sidelines, then the Maidan is possible. It will, of course, be dispersed, but everyone will have fun.
                      But even now, after such a blow, our brave government with the wisest headed, confidently declares, Next year we plan (! Whether it will be or not) that oil and gas will jump and heal again.
                      1. +1
                        1 August 2015 21: 54
                        Quote: Alf
                        I also see how full carts are taken out of Auchan, but this does not mean that all people are packed in it. Ask people how their diet has changed over the past year. They began to eat less meat, more and more on noodles, and they are switching potatoes.

                        You know literally watched it yesterday! We collect more food than we can carry, healthy men roll the bug on carts! The diet is changing and it’s good, the people are really fat and pot-bellied, worse - the children are overfed and also pot-bellied.
                      2. Alf
                        +7
                        1 August 2015 22: 11
                        Quote: Bijo
                        the people are really fat and pot-bellied, worse - the children are overfed and also pot-bellied.

                        Have you seen a lot of fat products from "rotten" products in Soviet times? At that time, when they saw a fat man on the street, half of the street turned around - Look, the fat one is walking. And now ? Now on the street you rarely see a slender one, usually fat is outweighed through a belt. But the shelf life of products is 3-6 months. And it is with such products that supermarkets are inundated. And the worst thing is that young people are getting fat already at the age of 13-16. This is already a disease at the genetic level. What offspring can they give?
                      3. +1
                        1 August 2015 23: 01
                        Quote: Alf
                        Have you seen a lot of fat products from "rotten" products in Soviet times? At that time, having seen a full man on the street, half of the street turned around - Look, the fat one is walking. And now ?

                        No, I do not argue that there were high-quality Soviet products, there are no questions. But we stuff modern food into ourselves, we buy convenience foods and fast-food restaurants - full of people. The choice of products is, you need to force your wife to cook homemade food.
                      4. Alf
                        +1
                        2 August 2015 20: 17
                        Quote: Bijo
                        Quote: Alf
                        Have you seen a lot of fat products from "rotten" products in Soviet times? At that time, having seen a full man on the street, half of the street turned around - Look, the fat one is walking. And now ?
                        No, I do not argue that there were high-quality Soviet products, there are no questions. But we stuff modern food into ourselves, we buy convenience foods and fast-food restaurants - full of people. The choice of products is, you need to force your wife to cook homemade food.

                        You are not quite right.
                        We have been TRAINED to eat fast food. In Soviet times, all doctors spoke and hammered us everywhere that proper nutrition is the basis of a long and healthy life.
                        Now it has been quietly canceled, but at every corner and constantly from the zombie box you can hear McDonald's and CFS, you don't need to cook at home, just go to the nearest shopping mall. This is called "customer preparation" in marketing.
                      5. 0
                        2 August 2015 21: 34
                        Quote: Alf
                        We have been TRAINED to eat fast food. In Soviet times, all doctors spoke and hammered us everywhere that proper nutrition is the basis of a long and healthy life.

                        This, of course, is true, only the life expectancy in the USSR was 16 years shorter than now.
                        How do you explain, there wasn’t like a food shop and everything was organically clean?
                        Quote: Alf
                        Now it has been quietly canceled, but at every corner and constantly from the zombie box you can hear McDonald's and CFS, you don't need to cook at home, just go to the nearest shopping mall. This is called "customer preparation" in marketing.

                        Well people ask, trade satisfies demand.
                        Fast food is certainly disgusting, but if you fed on the SPEM 76 canteen, during the construction of the station (mine Voronezh) in the Gantsevichi of the BSSR (1987) - that was where the weapons of mass destruction were.
                      6. Alf
                        0
                        3 August 2015 22: 21
                        Quote: atalef
                        This, of course, is true, only the life expectancy in the USSR was 16 years shorter than now.

                        Note that in October 2014, the head of the Ministry of Health Veronika Skvortsova said that life expectancy in Russia increased by almost a year. She said that according to the results of eight months of this year, life expectancy in Russia is 71,6, and it was 70,8 years.

                        The average life expectancy in Russia in 1896–97 was 32 years, in the USSR in 1926–27 - 44 years, in 1958–59 - 69 years, in 1970–71 - 70 years.

                        Where is 16 years old?
                      7. +1
                        4 August 2015 10: 11
                        a full cart is a gut. Oddly enough, they usually cry the most. We have a mechanic at a small factory. Tiddly, dry, dirty, with a salary ... small. He drives a Mazda CX-5, listens only to exo matzo, emanates bile how to live kuyevo. Strong owner, children, hard worker,. This is about carts and waist measurements. Auchan is in Moscow. We have his daughters in Rybinsk - they are called ATAK. From there our poor people also roll carts. Thanks to CHEAP. There are products such as "Every Day" brand. I buy and eat, trying not to think what's inside. Because on the other - there is no ... I. Over the year, optimism has diminished from the Crimea. It was clear that it would not be easy. But now it is clear that we do not understand how we are going, the course does not change. Liberoids live and triumph, the housekeeper in the opera
                      8. 0
                        2 August 2015 07: 25
                        I heard tanks in the armed forces appeared, and MSCs were armed, how many are there under Kadyrov’s arms, and in Moscow in the Chechen diaspora?
                      9. +2
                        2 August 2015 21: 34
                        in the internal troops and the turntables are fighting .. And in general, according to statistics, the internal troops are the most re-equipped with us ... first of all, they get new items.
                      10. +1
                        2 August 2015 22: 28
                        As for the explosive tanks they had under Stalin, and the rest is a troll, learn the mat.chast .... laughing
                    4. +5
                      1 August 2015 19: 30
                      Products went up a bit.
                      Well, we survive it.

                      A little is percent on 70.
                      Got it.
                      Survived and not like that.
                      Question.
                      And who in such a difficult time should be responsible for ensuring that networks do not inflate prices?
                      1. +4
                        1 August 2015 20: 01
                        Quote: demo
                        Products went up a bit.
                        Well, we survive it.

                        A little is percent on 70.
                        Got it.
                        Survived and not like that.

                        Well, the thing is - who will survive, who will die. The strongest will survive. The law of the jungle in all its glory.
                      2. 0
                        1 August 2015 21: 00
                        And who in such a difficult time should be responsible for ensuring that networks do not inflate prices?

                        Putin! laughing Somehow it’s somehow similar to kaklov
                      3. +1
                        1 August 2015 22: 04
                        Quote: Corporal Valera
                        Putin! Somehow it’s somehow similar to kaklov

                        Yes, it seems. All to the Maidan - the marsh. "accursed" Putin put half of the country in foreign cars, jeeps, makes them eat three sticks of sausage, so much so that every second obesity (no offense at the very first degree), buy three cars per family, five smartphones, three tablets, etc. .d. Life is worse than ever! Putin get out!
                      4. Alf
                        +4
                        1 August 2015 22: 21
                        Quote: Bijo
                        Putin put half the country in foreign jeeps,

                        And were these cars bought for money or on credit?
                        Quote: Bijo
                        eat three sticks of sausage,

                        What is this sausage made of? We have such a sausage-quality factory called. So I once read on the label the composition of this, God forgive me, sausages. Nitrites, sulfates, nitrates, potassium antioxidants, antioxidants, etc.
                        The meat was mentioned at the very last place.
                        Quote: Bijo
                        five smartphones, three tablets

                        Where are these smartphones and tablets made? In Russia ? From domestic components? A couple of years ago, the whole zomboyaschik came out on guano-Our first domestic smartphone-yutafon. True, later it turned out that there was only Russian packaging in it, all the components from around the world where I would not be assembled to speak, south of Kazakhstan.
                        What are we proud of? What's upside down on loans? So the crisis of non-payment of debts is already growing.
                      5. +1
                        1 August 2015 22: 46
                        Quote: Alf
                        What are we proud of? What's upside down on loans? So the crisis of non-payment of debts is already growing.

                        We lived beyond our means, now we will live poorer, so what? I have already said again, Putin raised the army, the military industry and not only works, otherwise where does so much new technology come from? Our parents who are alive receive their pension on time. All is well I see no reason to panic, like Sholokhov's "They fought for the Motherland" remember "And I see no reason to pinch the tail between the legs according to the dog's custom! If they beat us, then fight better!" What are you suggesting specifically "Maidan"? A change of power? Whom to put?
                      6. +3
                        2 August 2015 07: 31
                        Pension below the subsistence level? Who, if not Putin? And who is knocking out competitors, who is stopping the shift? Really from 140 million there is no worthy? But what about Sweden, Switzerland, Denmark with their communism? From there, the oligarchs do not run despite the predatory taxes to them.
                      7. +3
                        2 August 2015 04: 26
                        Alf, when were you born? If you do not know, our industry and agricultural production collapsed when the union broke up. And the voucherization of the whole country has finished it all. are you crucifying now I was 15 years old when the union broke up and I remember everything perfectly. I remember how they stood behind Eltsin’s mountain. And then his stuff. Where do you live? Or memory like a cat?
                      8. +5
                        2 August 2015 07: 43
                        Well, do not hang up on your ears! When they conducted a survey on the Internet who agreed to go to the Far East with the allocation of 1 hectare of land for personal ownership, the sea of ​​people responded. But funny and sad is different. When one ram-governor proposes to allocate 1 ha to those who wish, another ram nods with a clever look, agreeing. But after all, millions are sitting and seeing and know that for normal s / x maintenance it is necessary not 1 ha, but 100-300 and with millions abandoned it is a drop in the ocean. It’s better to pass the Kemsky volost to China for the production of sewing machines for 99 years. I don’t have confidence in two sheep.
                      9. 0
                        3 August 2015 12: 00
                        The only question is ... it’s one thing to press a button, and another to really go. How many applications have been submitted for this hectare? I have no information, but I think a little.
                      10. 0
                        2 August 2015 10: 44
                        Quote: ti_rex76
                        Alf, when were you born? If you do not know, our industry and agricultural production collapsed when the union broke up. And the voucherization of the whole country has finished it all. are you crucifying now I was 15 years old when the union broke up and I remember everything perfectly. I remember how they stood behind Eltsin’s mountain. And then his stuff. Where do you live? Or memory like a cat?

                        Better not say! fellow
                      11. Alf
                        0
                        2 August 2015 20: 24
                        Quote: ti_rex76
                        Alf, when were you born?

                        Not "you", but "you". I have not sat on the same field with you.
                        Quote: ti_rex76
                        I remember how they stood behind Eltsin’s mountain.

                        I voted to save the Union.
                        Quote: ti_rex76
                        And the voucherization of the whole country has finished it all. are you crucifying now

                        And what's this? What am I crucifying? What you said is called Fart in a puddle and When there is nothing to argue, uncontrolled diarrhea of ​​words begins.
                        And learn how to correctly place punctuation marks.
                      12. +1
                        3 August 2015 11: 35
                        Actually, the truth is, all this junk is washing money out of our country. And it’s a good wash. Now, if they were made with us, and it would be better from our components, then it would just be AWESOME. And the remaining specialists at work would be. And the young would grow up in the right direction.
                      13. 0
                        3 August 2015 08: 43
                        In the capitals rage people with a good income. These are the workers of the Maidan and the February Revolutions. Anger is also growing in Russia among such, but first of all, among the proletariat. It was lucky for the party and the government that 70 years ago, people were weaned to rebel for centuries.


                        About smartphones, etc. Ordinary people acquired them not from wealth, but from the availability of devices in our time. No need here, you panim ...
                      14. 0
                        3 August 2015 13: 49
                        Quote: Bijo
                        Quote: Corporal Valera
                        Putin! Somehow it’s somehow similar to kaklov

                        Yes, it seems. All to the Maidan - the marsh. "accursed" Putin put half of the country in foreign cars, jeeps, makes them eat three sticks of sausage, so much so that every second obesity (no offense at the very first degree), buy three cars per family, five smartphones, three tablets, etc. .d. Life is worse than ever! Putin get out!


                        Have you visited the Moscow Ring Road?
                        "The number of Russians with incomes below the subsistence level has grown to 22,9 million people. Now about 16% of the total number of citizens of the country live below the poverty line. The reasons lie in the increase in the subsistence minimum and the rise in prices for the consumer basket. In reality, the number of the poor may still be more - because of the unaccounted for in the statistics of the Crimea and Sevastopol and shortcomings in the calculation method. "
                      15. 0
                        3 August 2015 13: 51
                        Quote: Bijo
                        Quote: Corporal Valera
                        Putin! Somehow it’s somehow similar to kaklov

                        Yes, it seems. All to the Maidan - the marsh. "accursed" Putin put half of the country in foreign cars, jeeps, makes them eat three sticks of sausage, so much so that every second obesity (no offense at the very first degree), buy three cars per family, five smartphones, three tablets, etc. .d. Life is worse than ever! Putin get out!


                        Have you visited the Moscow Ring Road?
                        "The number of Russians with incomes below the subsistence level has grown to 22,9 million people. Now about 16% of the total number of citizens of the country live below the poverty line. The reasons lie in the increase in the subsistence minimum and the rise in prices for the consumer basket. In reality, the number of the poor may still be more - because of the unaccounted for in the statistics of the Crimea and Sevastopol and shortcomings in the calculation method. "
                      16. -1
                        2 August 2015 02: 05
                        Quote: Corporal Valera
                        Putin!

                      17. +1
                        2 August 2015 02: 05
                        Quote: Corporal Valera
                        Putin!

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                    5. +1
                      3 August 2015 12: 40
                      I understood you correctly that in 15 years we have reached the maximum that Russia can strive for. Finally, everyone has a car !!! Not Russian to her husband. Or are you seeing further growth? Give examples. Only it is not necessary to compare with the worst time in the country for all time, you will compare it with the revolution. Let's say the dynamics of the country's development over 5 years. And what does "survive" mean? Is it rain or something that you can wait it out?
                      Maybe you see the GOAL that will be achieved, say in 10 years? Share, curious.
                    6. 0
                      3 August 2015 12: 41
                      I understood you correctly that in 15 years we have reached the maximum that Russia can strive for. Finally, everyone has a car !!! Not Russian to her husband. Or are you seeing further growth? Give examples. Only it is not necessary to compare with the worst time in the country for all time, you will compare it with the revolution. Let's say the dynamics of the country's development over 5 years. And what does "survive" mean? Is it rain or something that you can wait it out?
                      Maybe you see the GOAL that will be achieved, say in 10 years? Share, curious.
                    7. 0
                      4 August 2015 09: 35
                      Yes, we notice how life has become better, we notice!
                      Just compared to what is better? Since the 90s? Yes, it's better! And much! But in comparison with the USSR - this is not even a question, it is definitely "no"!
                      Why? Everything is simple.
                      In the USSR, people had housing and it seemed to him for granted that people got housing (!), But now I have to pay a mortgage for this housing for 20 years. Cars? Look at the person’s car and understand how much he owes to the can.
                      You buy what people bought in the 90s at the time - a beautiful label. But think about how much this beautiful label costs you? How many years of credit bondage is a person worth this car, this apartment?
                      Mentally ban loans in the country - what will remain?
                      This is the reality, without a credit wrapper.
                      And the reality is that accumulating on a new refrigerator or TV is already a problem, they are becoming more expensive than the s / n indexes. And you about cars!
                      In the USSR, a man ate natural foods, wore clothes made from natural fabrics, lived in state-provided housing, worked at work provided by the state after graduation, and could go to Crimea and Sochi and live without knowing what hunger and cold are — this and called happiness. And at the same time, he did not owe anything to a bank! Tell me, how many% of the population of Russia today can afford such a life without loans?
                      This is where the answer to the question "has it gotten better?"
                3. -2
                  2 August 2015 00: 46
                  Everything, everything, I understand, the group "Made in Russia" is not at all respected by VKontakte, enough minus crying Tovarischas like the "destroyed in Russia" group here more. I understand pensioners. It's hard to live on a pension. And it’s hard to believe that something can be built in Russia. And the rest? Did the "officer's daughters" come here? Maybe Fort Knox launched his tentacle here too? I do not claim, I ask the old-timer
                  1. 0
                    4 August 2015 11: 16
                    Quote: Corporal Valera
                    And I can’t believe that in Russia they can build something.

                    You answered yourself, albeit on behalf of the "pensioners". I am not an enemy of Russia, but its citizen. There are also very big systemic problems. Build, speak. OK. Vostochny cosmodrome? Repair of the barracks in Omsk? From what I see, in my flyworm. The ugly patching of the road from year to year of the same hole. Construction of a house, residential. Will hand over in 2 years. According to the plan. In fact, I don't know. If it does not collapse, there is no way to buy an apartment there - I have to work 2 of my lives. Economy is not in tatters, Obama is an optimist. She's in tatters, and for a long time.
              2. +34
                1 August 2015 08: 31
                Quote: Vasek Trubachev
                And for the 15 years of Putin’s rule it was impossible to attend to the restoration of industry? Need sanctions and cheaper oil?


                Do they need it? In the Russian Federation, monarchical-oligarchic capitalism, the main purpose of which is to enrich a narrow circle of people close to the throne of the monarch. Leading the country is nothing more than a hobby. If the Russian Federation does not, then they will be ordinary billionaires, which are already in short supply throughout the world. And now they seem to be leading a vast territory that no one else has. They are for prestige, we are in trouble. 15 years after the Second World War, the Communists were already engaged in outer space, and these are finishing off the remnants of Soviet industry, education, and health care .....
                1. +8
                  1 August 2015 18: 32
                  Quote: larand
                  and these finish off the remnants of Soviet industry, education, health care ...

                  They call this "reforming."
                  1. Alf
                    +5
                    1 August 2015 19: 39
                    Quote: anip
                    They call this "reforming."

                    You are wrong, this is called "optimization".
                2. -3
                  2 August 2015 04: 40
                  You know, if you were to return the former Criminal Code now, you would have been sitting far and long. Because the people of the CPSU were afraid, believed and respected. There was no private enterprise, but there was an article for speculation. There were no freelancers, but there was an article for parasitism. Childless tax. I bought imported clothes from the Farts. All stores belonged to the state, a monopoly on alcohol and cigarettes. A medical labor dispensaries and detoxification in general thing. With democracy it was bad. They didn’t make a fuss with the people. Yes, and pounded on each other, be healthy. Should I continue or stop? Damn themselves rush from one extreme to another. Or because of freedom of action they got stupefied. As I understand it, one must return to the total dictatorship of communism and wait for the next wave of discontent. To hit the other extreme.
                  1. +4
                    2 August 2015 08: 17
                    Quote: ti_rex76
                    With democracy it was bad. They didn’t make a fuss with the people. Yes, and pounded on each other, be healthy.


                    How did you survive in such "horror" and why did you "knock"? I read and cried. True, as I did not remember my 68 years, nothing so terrible was recalled. Maybe you and I lived in different countries, or are you talking about these "horrors" from hearsay?
                    1. -3
                      2 August 2015 09: 43
                      Witty, but ti rex is largely correct in this.
                    2. 0
                      2 August 2015 14: 05
                      I am 39. I basically could not knock because of my childhood. I remember a lot myself, a lot of my grandfathers and grandmothers told me. By the way, one of them got a caretaker in a kindergarten so that they would take me to him. Factories then built kindergartens for the children of their employees. But my mother worked as a bookkeeper in the catering department and my father worked as a crane operator in the port. Neither she nor he had the opportunity to identify me in the garden. Here is the grandmother (a pensioner then) and went to work. I doubt about living in different countries, but for different republics or regions, that's for sure. I know for sure that the distribution of wealth over the territory of the USSR was uneven. Dad got into the intercity after the port. He brought a lot of things from other republics. But this is a completely different story.
                      1. 0
                        4 August 2015 11: 24
                        76 - if the region, then Yaroslavia. Countryman. Did you guess right? And age is the most it, I am 5 years older. The most "sovko-hating" age. They didn't really see them, socialism was already caught by Gorbachev's and we judge the whole system by it. Well, daddy-mom's resentment against the system, but what about. How much "democracy" and "market" do you need to eat already, eh? Probably this sovkonotnogo already to the tombstone.
              3. +3
                1 August 2015 14: 39
                For 15 years, in fact, Russia has canceled the state debt, if Che and the Yeltsin enslaving treaties for subsoil have been liquidated. And industry needs investment and markets.
                1. +6
                  1 August 2015 15: 28
                  Quote: black inspektor
                  In 15 years, Russia has actually canceled a national debt
                  And Iceland just sent everyone.

                  Yeltsin enslaved subsoil agreement liquidated
                  And where can I see documents on liquidation, or at least on the conclusion of these enslaving agreements?

                  And industry needs investment and markets.
                  What a revelation ... Well, where are they?
                2. +10
                  1 August 2015 16: 20
                  Quote: black inspektor
                  For 15 years, in fact, Russia has canceled the state debt, if Che and the Yeltsin enslaving treaties for subsoil have been liquidated. And industry needs investment and markets.

                  These songs about investments are sung almost every day. According to them, we should have a resort (investment). Just for some reason, our rulers prefer to invest in foreign banks, rather than in their own economies.
                  1. +2
                    2 August 2015 03: 36
                    That’s for sure, they don’t invest their money in development and production, but they all hope that this is how the investments will come (at least from someone), then we will live. By stupidity (?) They hope that someone from the outside will come and build the entire industry in Russia. And they need it (USA, Germany, Canada, Australia, where do we invest in securities, developing them and not ourselves)?
                3. Alf
                  +1
                  1 August 2015 19: 41
                  Quote: black inspektor
                  And industry needs investment and markets.

                  So what's the problem ? Who's in the way? Previously, the "legacy of the Soviet past" hindered, now it has been destroyed, but now?
                  1. +5
                    1 August 2015 21: 50
                    Quote: Alf
                    So what's the problem ? Who's in the way? Previously, the "legacy of the Soviet past" hindered, now it has been destroyed, but now?
                    And now the legacy of the Soviet past interferes - the memory of the fact that one can live humanly has not yet been destroyed, and so far the social program has been under-commercialized.
                    1. +4
                      1 August 2015 22: 34
                      And where to further commercialize. Ugh, damn it, what word, I don’t even know how to spell it. You need to pay 100 rubles per hour for a nurse from Sobes.
                      1. +4
                        1 August 2015 23: 16
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        And where to further commercialize. Ugh, damn it, what word, I don’t even know how to spell it. You need to pay 100 rubles per hour for a nurse from Sobes.
                        The volume of paid medicine in Russia grew by 20 percent
                        http://lenta.ru/news/2015/02/25/pay2health/

                        Every fourth doctor in Russia receives less than 10 thousand rubles
                        http://www.mk.ru/economics/2015/06/03/kazhdyy-chetvertyy-vrach-v-rossii-poluchae
                        t-menshe-10-tysyach-rubley.html

                        Residents of remote villages in Russia will be able to get medical advice via Skype
                        http://www.bfm.ru/news/295010
                      2. +2
                        1 August 2015 23: 54
                        I don’t understand that you’re kidding me about Skype here, but it’s not funny. My grandfather and grandmother seemed to live near the city, but you could get there by car only in the summer. In general, it's good to be kidding.
                      3. +3
                        2 August 2015 00: 25
                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        Residents of remote villages in Russia will be able to get medical advice via Skype

                        Bl ..., damn it, I'm sorry. There’s no cell phone. Suburb to the area at 6.20. Grandmother to the suburbs, from 30 to 60 km, a fig is not asphalt, trophy-raid, okay the day before, you can plant, or even do not live out at times. Village, in which earlier on appendicitis and an ulcer in the white, now even a blood transfusion can, but there is no license request . No, all the same Bl ...
                      4. +1
                        2 August 2015 00: 57
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        I don’t understand that you’re kidding me about Skype here, but it’s not funny.
                        Am I kidding? Follow the link ...

                        Quote: perepilka
                        There’s no cell
                        Yes, it’s not even a cellular matter - it’s just schizophrenia (you can read conspiracies with the same success)

                        According to the SuperJob.ru poll, 82% of Russian residents try to go to work during illness, only 18% of the economically active population are ill exclusively at home. The main reasons are that on sick leave workers lose money. In addition, management expresses dissatisfaction with the fact that people do not go to work.
                        http://rusnovosti.ru/posts/381417
                      5. 0
                        2 August 2015 01: 33
                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        82% of Russian residents try to go to work during illness; only 18% of the economically active population are ill exclusively at home.

                        Damn him, the mentality is something like that. It’s not, I personally, used to go out on a sick-list to collect, I’ll fix the equipment, but upstairs, for the most part, a bit abnormal, suicide in its purest form, you mature and wake up at once, you don’t, unaware, insisted, send open, until dismissal came, then they, stupid children were interpreted. But these grandfathers and grandmothers, they, his figs, all the way until they fall down, hens, a cow, a garden, yes, damn it, relatives around, look after everything, no, pull to the last, you’re lucky, hell knows if do not shake, or quickly, sometimes howl hunting.
                4. +1
                  1 August 2015 19: 57
                  Quote: black inspektor
                  And industry needs investment and markets.

                  Yeah, especially China laughing
                5. +4
                  2 August 2015 01: 56
                  Quote: black inspektor
                  In 15 years, Russia has actually canceled a national debt, if

                  When you owe a thousand is your problem.
                  When you owe a million this is not your problem, but the problem of your lender.
                  WHO is repaying debts now? The United States is already putting a coffin with their national debt, so what? Do they repay debts? No, they live quietly on credit at the expense of those to whom they owe and feel great.
                  Try to collect debt from the USA.
                  Someone repaid US debts? No - we forgive, we are good, we have money - we don’t know what to do.
                  We repaid the debts to all whom we owed.
                  The fact that Russia has canceled a national debt is not an achievement of Russia.
                  This is the achievement of those to whom we repaid debts.
                  The achievement of the Russian authorities, worthy of mention and praise, will be the return of all debts not by Russia, but by the return of debts - RUSSIA.
                  And he boasts that they repaid debts (when they didn’t especially demand it), and even ahead of schedule at a time when we constantly crave investments ... at least it’s not logical.
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              4. +2
                2 August 2015 02: 54
                So the same Dvorkovich said why spend money on the development and production of what can be bought in the West for petrodollars.
            2. +19
              1 August 2015 04: 50
              Quote: Uncle Joe
              And the main directions of foreign and domestic policy are determined by the president.

              Exactly! Yes good How much can it chew:
              Under the guise of fighting inflation (caused primarily by devaluations and the arbitrariness of monopolies, and not by the growth of the money supply), the Liberals in the government of Medvedev and the Bank of Russia have extremely tightened financial policy.
              ? stop Does anyone else believe that Medvedev alone is deciding something? fool
              1. +4
                1 August 2015 15: 17
                Medvedev is the flip side of the ruble. If we take Putin for heads, then LADIES are tails. One alloy, one product. If we accept the foreign policy of the GDP as patriotic, then we must understand why it needs liberalism in domestic policy. And this is an eternal question! "Who is guilty?" "What to do?"
            3. +13
              1 August 2015 09: 09
              Liberalism as serving the elements of state governance that he was struck by the interests of global business, and not his people, total corruption, impunity for arbitrary monopolies, inaccessibility of justice, squeezing the social sphere as a universal answer to any financial problem

            4. 0
              3 August 2015 03: 44
              The easiest way to quit smoking! I quit in just 2 days and radically changed my life, now I want to advise everyone. I learned about this method from the blog - http://vurl.com/68zyz
            5. +1
              3 August 2015 07: 51
              And you personally did not try to read the constitution? "Google" at night by whom and what determines the foreign and domestic policy of the Russian Federation, you will be very surprised.
              1. 0
                3 August 2015 14: 50
                Quote: Siberian
                Have you personally tried to read the constitution?
                And you?

                "Google" at night by whom and what determines the foreign and domestic policy of the Russian Federation, you will be very surprised.
                Article 80

                1. The President of the Russian Federation is the head of state.

                2. The President of the Russian Federation is the guarantor of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the rights and freedoms of man and citizen. In accordance with the procedure established by the Constitution of the Russian Federation, it takes measures to protect the sovereignty of the Russian Federation, its independence and state integrity, ensures the coordinated functioning and interaction of government bodies.

                3. The President of the Russian Federation, in accordance with the Constitution of the Russian Federation and federal laws, determines the main directions of domestic and foreign policy of the state.

                4. The President of the Russian Federation as the head of state represents the Russian Federation within the country and in international relations.
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          3. +23
            31 July 2015 17: 43
            ...... Kudrinomik and "Count" Shuvalov said whose bank.
            1. +23
              31 July 2015 17: 59
              "The Russian economy is in a very difficult situation" - this is Shuvalov who meant his pocket - "guys, I can't steal anymore."
              1. +5
                1 August 2015 18: 40
                Quote: Vadim237
                it was Shuvalov who meant his own pocket - "guys, I can't steal anymore."

                You underestimate his strengths and the strengths of people like him.
            2. +16
              31 July 2015 20: 48
              planned diversion!
            3. +14
              31 July 2015 23: 17
              Quote: refrigerator
              .. Kudrinomik and "Count" Shuvalov said whose bank.

              But are Kudrin and Shuvalov not friends of the president?
            4. +17
              1 August 2015 06: 30
              You need such a bank for hell, and for whom, interestingly, does it work? To America? What a stupid face for Shuvalov. It turns out who the real masters of Russia are! To hell with such laws that lead to a fall in the economy.
            5. +4
              1 August 2015 18: 48
              Quote: refrigerator
              Kudrinomik and "Count" Shuvalov said whose bank.

              And what did they discuss in Putin’s office. Putriots should be watched by all.
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        5. +19
          31 July 2015 17: 39
          Well, that is, all the same, it comes in quietly? It is only a pity that when it is finally up to you, Putin’s supporters, I’m afraid it will be too late. But apparently it’s said about you, duren thought is richer .....
          1. +17
            1 August 2015 00: 21
            Quote: Vova 73
            Well, that is, all the same, it comes in quietly? It is only a pity that when it is finally up to you, Putin’s supporters, I’m afraid it will be too late. But apparently it’s said about you, duren thought is richer .....

            I do not want to argue, especially since I'm not such an ardent fan of Putin. But...
            Let's look at Russia and Ukraine and try to compare them.
            In 1991, both found themselves in approximately the same situation: the beginning of the collapse of the economy, the rupture of interstate and inter-economic relations, inadequate people in power.
            24 of the year has passed.
            Russia is a state, without looking at which no more or less important international issue is being resolved, and Ukraine is a zombie state, from whose stench it turns all sane and unbiased people back.
            And Russia began to have a little bit of weight only under Putin. Under Yeltsin, everything and everything was "put" on Russia.
            And let's not forget Belarus. As soon as Lukashenko was not carried to the bumps, but he was able to BLOODY maintain the balance and dignity of his country - unlike Ukraine itself.
            In Ukraine, such a civil war is now normal, its very beginning. In Russia and Belarus - a slow but steady forward movement.
            And even Putin's NON-STONERS, like me, understand that political ambitions and their strengthening through redistribution of property and spheres of influence are death for Russia.
            Russia - huge, great, multinational, has already passed over that abyss, which, it was, opened under it in the 1990's. Ukraine, by inertia, on this NEMALOUS share of the USSR’s inheritance inherited this abyss, but begins to slide into it, failing to create anything productive. Ukraine was able to create (or rather revive) only fratricidal ideology. That’s all that Ukraine has been able to do over the years of its independence. Everything else she successfully, super-successful, shit.
            1. -6
              1 August 2015 00: 43
              Plus a stop. If you still remember in what state Vladimir Vladimirovich got the country. Personally, I wouldn't tackle this "dead number" at all. Putinsliks climbed out here. They would have taken it and showed how it is necessary to build a Great State on one, two, three occasions. Tryndet is not to roll bags.
              1. +2
                1 August 2015 10: 24
                Comrade Corporal, you apparently did not watch the interview of V. Katasonov shown above. Take a look. It shows what to do at one, two, three!
                1. +4
                  1 August 2015 11: 13
                  Comrade Borad, they took away your chess in the year 91, and slipped the monopoly on. And you have been looking for 24 years where to put the queen. The game follows the rules of the monopoly and no matter how smart Katasonov is, the rules will not be allowed to change him. Am I making myself clear?
                  1. +6
                    1 August 2015 18: 53
                    Quote: Corporal Valera
                    Comrade Borad, they took away your chess in the year 91, and slipped the monopoly on. And you have been looking for 24 years where to put the queen. The game follows the rules of the monopoly and no matter how smart Katasonov is, the rules will not be allowed to change him.

                    Who will not give? What is stopping Putin from changing the rules? Or will Putin not give it?
                    1. +2
                      2 August 2015 08: 13
                      People, you seem to have forgotten the times of EOBN, when the latter changed the prime ministers as prostitutes on Leningradka. Or has the constitution changed? What is the problem ? Ebn, no one stopped to shoot tanks in the parliament, bombed Chechnya and then die in high esteem. Or GDP has not grown to male decisions?
                  2. +1
                    1 August 2015 21: 44
                    Quote: Corporal Valera
                    . The game follows the rules of monopoly

                    It remains to sing a song about the occupation and the permanent, endless struggle against it of the National Leader ... in the form of the struggle of the Nanai boys.

                    Quote: Corporal Valera
                    If we recall the state in which Vladimir Vladimirovich got the country.

                    Who pulled Russia into the WTO, do not remember?
                    1. +1
                      2 August 2015 04: 14
                      I still cannot forgive Putin for the surrender of military bases in Cuba, in Vietnam-Cam Ranh and the flooding of the Mir space station. All this was done under him, then it just wedged it, aroused hatred, especially against the background of the fact that he was appointed by Yeltsin himself. He began to openly oppose himself to the pin% wasps after the sinking of the Kursk nuclear submarine (does the people remember this time well?), That at once I began to have questions about who was really to blame for this.
                      Now I relate to him much better, the military began to live better with him, but I don’t understand why there were twice as many officials as there were in the USSR, that such an amount was necessary as air, people began to live so well that they could feed and all this gluttonous horde?
                2. 0
                  1 August 2015 11: 41
                  Somewhere below there is a wonderful quote from Stalin. You can read it and finish sowing a fascinating conversation.
              2. +4
                1 August 2015 18: 52
                Quote: Corporal Valera
                If we recall the state in which Vladimir Vladimirovich got the country.

                Let's remember. And during the years of his reign, half of the factories collapsed in our city from all destroyed since 1991. Apparently, it is with the collapse of factories "the Great State is being built."
                1. 0
                  2 August 2015 04: 54
                  No question, let's remember. You seem to have very bad memory.
                  Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin - Soviet party and Russian political and statesman, the first president of the Russian Federation. He was elected president twice - on June 12, 1991 and July 3, 1996, and held this position from July 10, 1991 to December 31, 1999.
              3. +2
                2 August 2015 08: 05
                Well, if you remember that China out of nothing from the execution on Tiananmen Square in a much shorter period and from much lower positions reached the level of a super power! Yes, one can bitterly admit that Putin, alas, is not Deng Xiao Ping and not always Russia pulling out a Stalin jackpot card. Six has now fallen. Alas!
            2. +9
              1 August 2015 18: 50
              Quote: ksv1973
              Let's look at Russia and Ukraine and try to compare them.

              And let's look at Russia and Zimbabwe. Then, in general, Russia CSO-GO !!! What is the way to compare with shit? Let's compare with Germany, Japan, the States.
              1. +1
                1 August 2015 18: 59
                Quote: anip
                Let's compare with Germany, Japan, the States

                And what is there .. let's ..

                - Germany is a colony of the USA. US military bases in Germany, gold - in Fort Knox (and they don’t give it away, bad people!), The Turks were driven and others .. Albanians, if they were not mentioned .. Where did the poor German get podazzo?
                - Japan is also a colony of the USA. The same bases, some Fukushima .. and even the evil Puten squeezed the northern territories .. pichalka ..
                - USA .. Ohhhh ... USA - it's FIVE .. but there are Yellowstone, blacks rebel periodically .. again - Putin-Crimea-BRICS-SCO .. smut, in short ..

                It's all right? wink
                1. +4
                  1 August 2015 19: 38
                  Quote: Cat Man Null
                  And what is there .. let's ..
                  Here I am bully

                  - Germany - US colony
                  The same thing can be blurt out about the Russian Federation, only there is no evidence in this first and second case.

                  US military bases in Germany
                  A US transit point on the territory of the Russian Federation, land is leased to China, money in the West, 20 years ago, the Kremlin invited consultants shastali, and the president giggles over this ...
                  However, in the first and second cases, all this was approved by the leadership of the countries.

                  gold - at Fort Knox (and they don’t give it away
                  Who told you such nonsense? Withdraw slowly, while the Russian yellow press plots conspiracy.

                  the Turks were driven and others .. Albanians
                  Outbid, offered more favorable conditions.

                  - Japan is also a colony of the USA.
                  Is there no moon yet? And then you say so that it seems that everything that exists is a US colony ...

                  Putin-Crimea-BRICS-SCO
                  Also colony?

                  It's all right?
                  No, it’s not rolling. laughing
                  1. 0
                    1 August 2015 19: 51
                    Quote: Uncle Joe
                    Here I am

                    I categorically welcome you love

                    I, in fact, answered anip .. but the Chukchi, apparently, is a writer, not a reader .. But here's what:

                    Quote: ksv1973
                    Let's look at Russia and Ukraine and try to compare them.

                    In 1991, both found themselves in approximately the same situation: the beginning of the collapse of the economy, the rupture of interstate and inter-economic relations, inadequate people in power.
                    24 of the year has passed.
                    Russia is a state, without looking at which no more or less important international issue is being resolved, and Ukraine is a zombie state, from whose stench it turns all sane and unbiased people

                    I basically agree with the above. Further :

                    Quote: anip
                    And let's look at Russia and Zimbabwe. Then, in general, Russia CSO-GO !!! What is the way to compare with shit? Let's compare with Germany, Japan, the States.

                    There is juggling and stupid trolling, IMHO.

                    This was my answer (obviously delusional, yes .. the technique is called "ad absurdum", if I am not mistaken), which you analyzed in detail.

                    IMHO in vain you did it because, I repeat - the nonsense is written there frank .. a la anip laughing
                    1. 0
                      1 August 2015 21: 19
                      Quote: Cat Man Null
                      I categorically welcome you love
                      Hello, hello ... laughing



                      I, actually, answered anip
                      OK OK... laughing
                  2. 0
                    2 August 2015 05: 21
                    1. Merkel want to hold accountable for the scandal with wiretap anb. No, nichrome is not proof?
                    2. Transit in Ulyanovsk, if it’s already been closed for a year, why not let the land go for lease (by the way, in the Far East, they give out land for Russians for free if that), please provide the bills, but somehow without proof, if be exact then 25, at the time of the beloved then of all Russians, and including you, President Eltsin
                    3. Three times ha, no one has denied or confirmed either.
                    4. Outbid ???? And now they don’t know where to get away from them. Merkel to the little girl has already said that in Germany there is not enough space for everyone.
                    5. And who do you think is the largest lender in the United States? Not a fig not China, but Japan. They pray there to all their gods that nothing would happen to America.
                    6. Crimea is not a colony and it pleases. And the rest, in principle, cannot be colonies.

                    And you dear Uncle Joe, the troll’s campaign is still the one
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                    1. 0
                      2 August 2015 15: 51
                      Quote: ti_rex76
                      Three times ha, no one has denied or confirmed either
                      And if so, with what joy are such statements made?

                      And who do you think is the largest lender in the United States?
                      Swineherd? But tell me, swineherd - what is a country's debt in a liberal market economy, which, according to Vladimir Vladimirovich, who talks a lot about foreign investment, should Russia remain?

                      trollar
                      Like the word, and do not care about its meaning - yes? laughing
                      I see.
                2. 0
                  3 August 2015 13: 32
                  Quote: Cat Man Null
                  Quote: anip
                  Let's compare with Germany, Japan, the States

                  And what is there .. let's ..

                  - Germany is a colony of the USA. US military bases in Germany, gold - in Fort Knox (and they don’t give it away, bad people!), The Turks were driven and others .. Albanians, if they were not mentioned .. Where did the poor German get podazzo?
                  - Japan is also a colony of the USA. The same bases, some Fukushima .. and even the evil Puten squeezed the northern territories .. pichalka ..
                  - USA .. Ohhhh ... USA - it's FIVE .. but there are Yellowstone, blacks rebel periodically .. again - Putin-Crimea-BRICS-SCO .. smut, in short ..

                  It's all right? wink

                  Life expectancy in the "US colonies"
                  Japan - 84,6
                  Germany -81
                  USA - 79,8
                  and now independent Russia - 70,5
                  Can you prove that the "colonies" are worse off than us? By what criterion are citizens worse off there?
                  Quote: Cat Man Null
                  Quote: anip
                  Let's compare with Germany, Japan, the States

                  And what is there .. let's ..

                  - Germany is a colony of the USA. US military bases in Germany, gold - in Fort Knox (and they don’t give it away, bad people!), The Turks were driven and others .. Albanians, if they were not mentioned .. Where did the poor German get podazzo?
                  - Japan is also a colony of the USA. The same bases, some Fukushima .. and even the evil Puten squeezed the northern territories .. pichalka ..
                  - USA .. Ohhhh ... USA - it's FIVE .. but there are Yellowstone, blacks rebel periodically .. again - Putin-Crimea-BRICS-SCO .. smut, in short ..

                  It's all right? wink
            3. 0
              2 August 2015 04: 48
              All is correct good catch green)
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        6. +40
          31 July 2015 17: 47
          But I am an opponent of Putin and voted for him exactly once - the first. this is the second Gorbachev, the same bot, never and nothing to the end. We curse the liberals, but he is the same liberal and does not hide at all. Our liberals are building an oligarchic state and are building quite successfully, they need the people as a slave no more. Western sanctions fell on our shoulders, tighten our belts and endure who has access to information, you can ask how much richer our nouveaux riches have become, the state sponsors them losses. There is no growth of industry, so there are no caplets over them, there probably is no extra workforce either, especially skilled, so that's all. Moscow is growing, prettier, every day on TV they’re showing, it won’t pass even half a century as the whole of Russia will fit behind the next ring, a lot of territory has a lot of headache, slowly but surely everyone will become happy Muscovites.
          1. -6
            31 July 2015 20: 44
            Well so what is the problem? Register the party and the election. Show how to deal with world capital. Dig a bunker deeper. Well, so as not to bang inadvertently. And we will crush you. Like the father of the people. Sometimes.
            1. +12
              31 July 2015 21: 36
              Corporal Valera - in the "election" Colleague you somehow play yourself, without us, if it certainly entertains you ... hi
              Here, more serious work is to be done - half of the government has been stable and has been working not for us for a long time and will not leave "voluntarily" ... elections..." fellow
              And about the "bunker" - do not hesitate - for another year these Ulyukaevo-Silanovo-Nabiulkins will be in power, and you yourself will dream of a quality bunker, and not of elections ... wassat
              1. -18
                31 July 2015 23: 33
                What a troublemaker you are, Goga. You need a smiley with a cap, not a hat. Have you already invented revolutionary slogans? Or do you mean something else by "serious business"? Share then, comrade. I can enroll in your team, according to the displacement of Ulyukayev.
            2. +1
              1 August 2015 18: 56
              Quote: Corporal Valera
              Dig a bunker deeper. Well, so as not to bang inadvertently.

              Yes, what are you ??? It's like banging ??? We have a democracy !!! You must be handed over to the authorities.
          2. +3
            31 July 2015 21: 34
            PS If it's not a secret, for whom did you vote "the second time"?
          3. MrK
            +15
            1 August 2015 01: 16
            Well done varov14. There are a lot of conversations, and most importantly they forgot. Forgotten Lenin's theory of revolution. This means that a REVOLUTIONARY SITUATION should arise in Russia. So far, citizens "adequately" "vote with their hearts" and "want" bread and circuses ... What is the revolutionary situation here?
            And the people wouldn’t ... be mean. It just suits the current situation.
            And this means that the peasants in the country have not yet fully clamped the most expensive. You can still live. Therefore, agitate the people for the revolution, offer AK-74 - stupidly. Any rebellion will always crush power.

            But the oligarchs will not stop. After all, they are “hotstsa” of new billions. And that means they will squeeze the yay ... ts people.
            And when they squeeze, and surely, sooner or later, then it’s not necessary to agitate. Citizens themselves will ask: "and where can I get it rustly."

            I ask a simple question - is this not necessary for GDP, so that the process of twisting (squeezing) is stretched and does not allow the people to organize themselves.
            1. 0
              1 August 2015 01: 28
              Let's self-organize and do some spoofing. Contrary!
              1. -6
                1 August 2015 04: 27
                ... well, make something worthwhile: invent a bicycle, discover America, but even if you plant a tree!
              2. one
                +5
                1 August 2015 11: 44
                Quote: Corporal Valera
                Let's self-organize and do some spoofing. Contrary!

                First, use your voting rights in the election.
                "A nation that depends on the will of one person cannot survive, and it does not deserve it." 
                Richard Brinsley Sheridan.
                "A nation that can and should be saved by a single person does not deserve mercy." 
                Johann Zeime. "
                1. +3
                  1 August 2015 11: 57
                  However, the role of personality in history has not been canceled
                2. +2
                  2 August 2015 08: 32
                  The winner is not the one who gains the most votes (Remember the last with YOBN and Zyuganov), but the one who counts. Is our storyteller still alive?
                3. 0
                  3 August 2015 13: 57
                  Yes, you yourself were in these "elections" - what would you suggest? - do not come to the trash can to throw the trash and sit there from 8 to 12 at night - although the last 3-4 elections - by 20 00 everything is already counted and sealed everyone is already celebrating the fulfillment of the plan :)
            2. one
              +3
              1 August 2015 11: 37
              Quote: mrark

              And when they squeeze, and surely, sooner or later, then it’s not necessary to agitate.

              Unfortunately, there will be no one to campaign.
              reduction and degradation of the population through medicine-fertility-alcoholism-drug addiction-crime-education-food, suicide, etc ...
              in automobile accidents alone, twice as many die in a year than in 10 years in Afghanistan!
              + ten times more dead, disabled!
              hi

              Quote: mrark


              I ask a simple question - is this not necessary for GDP, so that the process of twisting (squeezing) is stretched and does not allow the people to organize themselves.

              as well as to make the process of self-destruction of the people irreversible.
              1. 0
                1 August 2015 14: 50
                in automobile accidents alone, twice as many die in a year than in 10 years in Afghanistan!


                Do you somehow try for a change, well ..... doesn’t get drunk behind the wheel, or for example .... do not violate the rules of the road recourse
                1. one
                  +3
                  1 August 2015 17: 44
                  Quote: Shishiga
                  in automobile accidents alone, twice as many die in a year than in 10 years in Afghanistan!


                  Do you somehow try for a change, well ..... doesn’t get drunk behind the wheel, or for example .... do not violate the rules of the road recourse

                  you speak as our authority.
                  laughing

                  For your information, I have never been drunk behind the wheel. and I’m not breaking the rules.
                  hi
                  and you, dear, are talking nonsense!
                  fool
                  the main culprits are those who, in pursuit of their own profit (I hope you guess who) will allow those who drink and violate to control.
                  just to sell more.
                  for others, reducing the population is easier than providing them with work-kindergartens-medicine-education-p

                  obsession.
                  third, I want to pretend that they teach driving, for cool grandmas.
                  fourth - to cut the loot on insurance.
                  etc.
                  in addition, every sixth accident due to the quality of the roads!
                  and how many cases do you know that someone from the road workers was planted (5 thousand deaths a year on their conscience! pits - knee-deep!)
                  fool
                  1. +1
                    2 August 2015 08: 19
                    third, I want to pretend that they teach driving, for cool grandmas.
                    fourth - to cut the loot on insurance.
                    etc.

                    5. they forgot who suits such training - came in, put a coin in it, got a crust, and on the road - and then when the card lays down or it is carried, or it sits down.

                    in addition, every sixth accident due to the quality of the roads!


                    subject to the high-speed regime, the percentage of wells knee-deep sharply decreases for some reason, and the quality of driving a car grows before an amazed public.

                    the main culprits are those who, in pursuit of their own profit (I hope you guess who) will allow those who drink and violate to control.


                    Now this is the pearl of Mind - do you think the cops are sober and forcefully forced to drink ??? or we have total surveillance and everybody’s standing by and watching when the drunk gets behind the wheel ... or a car like in Europe, you won’t blow the car, it won’t start,
                    Now it would be generally hurt by how much it would be freer on the roads, it’s hardly safer - you won’t filter out fools and bullish sensors.
                  2. 0
                    2 August 2015 12: 28
                    Here, here ... The main people to rob more, but more sophisticated. Now, with the new rights, they have come up with another scam, a bunch of categories, well this is nonsense.
            3. 0
              2 August 2015 08: 29
              I want to remind . Remember how many warriors and explosives caught the Far Eastern partisans? Division? And how many Bolsheviks were in St. Petersburg in October 1917? Hundred ? Fifty ? In order to make a coup, I mean an armed change of power, a lot of people will not be required. What about weapons? If you have money?
            4. 0
              2 August 2015 12: 24
              An interesting thought - of course, a controlled process is better than an uncontrolled !!! And about raising the army and patriotism: GDP and aligarchs also do not want to lose raw materials. What will they be if they are deprived of this? The trouble in this situation is that the people also don’t need aliens, they have enough of their newly-born gentlemen, and our nouveau riche is playing on patriotic feelings ... But it will turn out as always, promise the people the golden mountains and shove them again.
            5. 0
              3 August 2015 12: 22
              Looks like reality ...
          4. +3
            1 August 2015 18: 54
            Quote: varov14
            this is the second Gorbachev, the same bot, never and nothing to the end. We curse the liberals, but he is the same liberal and does not hide at all. Our liberals are building an oligarchic state and are building quite successfully, they need the people as a slave no more.

            All this will not "reach" the putriots. Looks like they are fed well.
            1. +1
              1 August 2015 23: 41
              Quote: anip
              All this will not "reach" the putriots. Looks like they are fed well.

              What won't work? What is Putin = Gorbachev? So this is nonsense! Gorbach destroyed the country, and Putin gathered and multiplied! Nobody "feeds" me, I'm an ordinary hard worker (surveyor) at a construction site, I remember under Gorbachev and Yeltsin - God forbid! And to Putin - health and many, many years of ruling Russia.
          5. +1
            1 August 2015 22: 29
            Quote: varov14
            But I am an opponent of Putin and voted for him exactly once - the first. this is the second Gorbachev, the same botalo, never and nothing to the end

            I'm just shocked by you! Are you seriously! And who raised the army? Maternal capital? No industry? And how do we make "armature", S-400, "Ash" and "Borei" and "Varshavyanka", Yarsy without industry? We have a sovereign independent state, and this is the main thing. There are difficulties, but to break the country due to the fact that there is less imported harmful food and less money, we need to endure, we are Russian people, or do you want to call Nuland with cookies?
            1. +1
              2 August 2015 08: 40
              Money rules the world . Who is subject to the Central Bank? Who appointed the head of the Central Bank? This is Iran an independent state, This Libya Was an independent state. I am afraid that China is hardly an independent state.
            2. +2
              2 August 2015 12: 16
              Independence is good !!! Only whom from whom, the ruling elite from the people? Maybe that's why we have more police than the armed forces?What has been happening in the country since the 90s irrefutably proves that the people are not needed in this country, the planned genocide and eradication is underway and there is no need for la. Under the USSR, we were independent as well and felt like people in the full sense of the word, so that some gentlemen shit democrats would not star.
            3. +1
              3 August 2015 14: 27
              Quote: Bijo
              Quote: varov14
              But I am an opponent of Putin and voted for him exactly once - the first. this is the second Gorbachev, the same botalo, never and nothing to the end

              I'm just shocked by you! Are you seriously! And who raised the army? Maternal capital? No industry? And how do we make "armature", S-400, "Ash" and "Borei" and "Varshavyanka", Yarsy without industry? We have a sovereign independent state, and this is the main thing. There are difficulties, but to break the country due to the fact that there is less imported harmful food and less money, we need to endure, we are Russian people, or do you want to call Nuland with cookies?

              Speak everything right, but only ordinary citizens have less money, and those who cannot be broken have only more money. And what about "be patient" - are you immortal or do you have 9 lives? And you can't live well, calmly and without impoverishment every 5 years? How, for example, in "angry Europe"? Or is it such a national fun to "wait" all the time and glorify the Tsar Father and his entourage, who has imported watches !!! for 15-20 thousand euros like a fool of candy wrappers?
              1. -1
                3 August 2015 23: 18
                Quote: Mantissa
                And you can't live well, calmly and without impoverishment every 5 years? How, for example, in "angry Europe"? Or is it such a national fun to "wait" all the time and glorify the Tsar Father and his entourage, who has imported watches !!! for 15-20 thousand euros like a fool of candy wrappers?

                The old "well-fed" life will no longer be. You see how everything in the world has escalated, we did not start it. Now is not the time to arrange the carve-up on the principle of "take away and divide", envy other people's watches and cars, otherwise it is possible to fall into the Ukrainian "scenario".
        7. +11
          31 July 2015 18: 37
          It is fully agreed, it is necessary to block the grub of officials, otherwise they will begin to burst
        8. -5
          1 August 2015 03: 51
          This is a classic of the revolutionary genre:
          1. The government is guilty (to destroy the foundations of the state)
          2. The rich are to blame (for capital to float west)
          3. The foreigners are to blame (so that the bloody massacre lasts longer. And in muddy water it is easier to catch a profit.)
          4. Guilty of inversion (makes it possible to rob the cultural heritage of the country).
          5. All the same, who is to blame and not us
          6 ..........

          P / S That's how they get the ruin. Do you want to live in ruin?
          1. -2
            1 August 2015 14: 51
            hi that's right good
          2. 0
            1 August 2015 15: 00
            Wow, the revolutionaries nominated. That we should build a house ... I wonder if there is at least one Lenin among them in terms of personality? Well, so that the country does not crash at all. Or "there are few real violent, so there are no leaders?"
            1. +2
              1 August 2015 23: 43
              yeah - I broke a fart at the Geyevolucionists on the Maltese cross. And they are not afraid that after the Leniskotrot burlap mass, according to tradition, Stalin comes and we all of them build to the wall ..... to the wall.
              Our tradition is, "As long as the string does not twist, it will still curl up into a whip"


              And now zaminusuyte me brutally, I’m chilling with you lol
              1. +2
                2 August 2015 01: 09
                Quote: Shishiga
                after the Leniskotrot burr
                laughing There can be no talk of any "theory" of Stalin, Stalin never claimed anything new in theory, but only sought to facilitate the complete triumph of Leninism in our party
                t. 9 p. 116
            2. 0
              1 August 2015 23: 47
              Quote: Corporal Valera
              Wow revolutionaries have mined

              Yes, the "great fighters of the revolution" minus us, and they are going to "snitch" in the fall. Well, we'll see who "snitches" whom. Why do they need Lenin, they have "Great Navalny"
          3. +1
            1 August 2015 20: 28
            Quote: EGOrkka
            Do you want to live in ruin?
            They themselves do not know what they want. Yes Not a constitution, not a stellar sturgeon with horseradish. The main thing is that HIS was not (for this many cookies were promised).
        9. +3
          1 August 2015 04: 24
          But I didn’t consider myself a supporter of Putin before. Apparently the time has come! I don’t want my country to be turned into a ruin !!!!
          1. +6
            1 August 2015 10: 47
            Quote: EGOrkka
            But I didn’t consider myself a supporter of Putin before.

            Yeah, as you listen, no one voted for Putin! Did the Martians choose it for us?
        10. 0
          1 August 2015 06: 49
          Putin is trying, he is doing what he can, but his ONF is starting a new one .... of course it’s still far from social justice, but he is trying to solve it with little blood .... but liberals like the 5th column are a direct threat to the state as a whole and with it, unfortunately a little blood will not work
        11. +23
          1 August 2015 08: 44
          And I have never been his supporter.
          The level of his government, sorry, this is the level of the "godfather" of the zone, no more.

          An intelligent "ruler" in his entourage is only Shoigu (I think so), but he is not a production worker.

          Perhaps I am not right, but there is not a single person in our Government "From the plow"
          -I do not mean "bast peasant", well, at least a person who worked as a foreman in Production (for example)
          - "Economists" (HOW THEY GOT IT! - but this is a separate topic, "tenders", "outsourcing", "engineering" and other "evil spirits" of "effective management" - "I answer", if anything, "for the bazaar"), the former "brothers" who replaced the "Adidas" sweatpants with suits from Versace, the former "fartsa", lazy people and parasites, who were sent to the "101 kilometer" in the USSR ....

          And of course, the "architects" of fucking "perestroika", like the notorious Chubais.

          If they know something about Production, then perhaps only trips to the "potato" in Univer (and then, I think, "smeared"!)

          The "crisis" "burst out" ..
          What did we hear from "Uncle Poo"?
          -I WILL GIVE BUSINESS MONEY AND EVERYTHING WILL SPIN!
          But to hell in a bag!

          There will be no Industrialization with this "approach", we will not be able to "Catch up and Overtake"
          - will "drank" the dough and that's it!
          Return money from offshore, return respect to the LABOR person, so that the young locksmith, when he comes to the Plant, says
          -This is my factory and I do not want anything else!

          Include a mobilization economy in your work, stop choking people with taxes and stupid Laws of the snickering "Gosdura"
          And we RISE, INDUSTRY, ANSWER!

          But why the hell should I write about it?
          Everything will go on the thumb ....
          Oh, how patient the Russian people are!

          I apologize for the harshness
          -I can not resist.
          Well, not mine, not mine now all these factories, crafts and so on.

          But how, the soul hurts, seeing that everything is going to hell when they destroy the factories that were built in the difficult war years (Tomsk bearing, Sibelektromotr, although not a plant, but still - the Tomsk Military Medical Institute - and this is only in out of the ordinary Tomsk (yes, yes, during the 15th anniversary of "prosperity"!))

          And what, EVERYTHING BAD, WE WILL ALL DIE?
          Of course not!
          I personally, survived serving in the ZabVO and in the hell of the infectious ward 321 OVG (which I wrote a story about), survived a fucking "perestroika" and, in principle, if there is health, I will not be left without a piece of bread with my specialty.

          And "Tsar Vova" made me happy!
          Straight, balm for the soul!
          -Need to increase retirement age
          -To SAVE ...
          THE LAST WORKING GENERATION, LEARNING AND BEGINNING TO WORK IN THE USSR (not exactly, but close to the text (well, or to some "interlinear")

          This means that we who have crossed the sixth dozen will have work.
          In general, I think we will break through ...
          1. -10
            1 August 2015 09: 06
            Many words fellow And taxi drivers from the plow were already request It is necessary to work, but with us all the collective farmers know how to raise the country's economy, but they drowned in manure in their own shed. drinks
            1. +18
              1 August 2015 12: 58
              How did this phrase get!
              NEED TO WORK!

              Come to any trade, look at the work of the "riding" pombur, at the work of the same cattle.

              Yes, to hell with him, a simple mining operator, "Tushnik" or OOUShnik!
              THEY DO NOT WORK?!

              Chat with "expats", so heart to heart ....
              They will tell you about the oil man's "Rushen Crazy", that no one will work this way and for that kind of money.

              Come on, to hell with her "oil industry"!
              In your opinion, the drivers of TPPs, TPPs, nuclear power plants, workers of RES, and banal "goldsmiths" in the end DO NOT WORK?

              It turns out that my son, the adjustment engineer, who is now launching the LDS in Bashneft and sitting there for the second month, does not work?

              The installers do not work young boys, the drivers, the wagons driving along the Yakutsk highways and millions and millions of other honest workers do not work?

              Yes, I KNOW HOW TO!
              And I have the right to say!
              33 years of working experience, 8 oil and gas fields, power unit, pieces 5 ... 6 substations (and not 10 / 0,4, but for example, 500 kV), oil refining, petrochemical plants.

              And how many "little things", how many "general construction"!
              And people like me, honestly giving their debt to the State, rooting for their cause - MILLIONS!

              We are the WORKING CLASS; we have the right to a decent life!
              I stood and will stand on it!

              Yes, we are "traitors" and we have no forgiveness!
              While farce, gouging and demagogues destroyed the USSR, we did not see this:
              We built, moved science forward, defended our homeland and raised children.

              And alas, sincerely believed that the State would not betray us ...
              But it was necessary ...
              However, this is already "intolerant"

              I apologize for the harshness, but let's still use less of this phrase;
              -NEED TO WORK!

              Well, if by the word "work" you mean some kind of "financial success", then think about this:
              -If everyone becomes businessmen, who is banal XXXX going to export? (I'm not talking about fuel, electricity and other "benefits")
              1. +4
                1 August 2015 19: 07
                Quote: Former
                Well, if by the word "work" you mean some kind of "financial success", then think about this:
                -If everyone becomes businessmen, who is banal XXXX going to export? (I'm not talking about fuel, electricity and other "benefits")

                And those who are starring "need to work" are unaware, they think that they themselves are already working, and everything else around them somehow happens by itself. And what, he came home, bam, turned on the light, sat down at the computer or took a shower, opened the cold and hot water. But all this appears by itself, people who give all this "do not work, but lie on the stove."
                ..
                For a long time already I want these words "to work" in the face to smear those who pronounce them.
                1. +1
                  2 August 2015 04: 36
                  I have already written about this phrase "it is necessary to work" above, and now I automatically write down those people who pronounce them in MRAZI.
            2. -1
              2 August 2015 09: 27
              Quote: TVM - 75
              And taxi drivers from the plow were already
              Little shepherd and locksmith in one person - N. Khrushchev, few combine operators from the Stavropol plow, awarded in 1948 the Order of the Red Banner of Labor for overfulfillment of the plan, M. Gorbachev ... They still want to!
          2. +5
            1 August 2015 19: 01
            Quote: Former
            (Tomsk bearing, Sibelektromotr, although not a plant, but still, the Tomsk Military Medical Institute, and this is only in the out-of-town Tomsk (yes, during the 15th anniversary of "prosperity"!))

            Hello fellow countryman! Yes, it is a fact, in Tomsk half of the collapsed factories have sunk into oblivion over the past 15 years. Duc but "glory" is.
          3. 0
            2 August 2015 04: 31
            I subscribe to all the words.
          4. -2
            2 August 2015 05: 48
            They lived a great life, respectfully. I only remember (then a 15-year-old boy then) that the country of praises sang to Gorbachev and Eltsin. Where were you when the country was destroyed? When was there something like Maidan in Moscow?
            Herovo with the union and the Communists was? Not enough freedom? Did people want change? European grub to try? Changed. Now slurp over with complete bast shoes the freedom and consequences of these changes.

            ps And King Vova is just against raising the retirement age, so they would have been raised a long time ago. They raised the pension only to civil servants. But they are okay, for how they, for the most part, work and what salaries they receive in general, they need to cancel the pension. And for some reason no one recalls that Tsar Vova reduced his salary by 10%, and behind him the government and the apparatus and the State Duma.
            1. +1
              2 August 2015 08: 17
              It's a shame, he "sang", it was a matter of what to show off!
              In general, this will be (God willing!) In my future book.
              I do not pursue the writer's laurels, I just want to describe everything as it was from the point of view of a simple layman.
              If anything, the first chapter is written (the rest is still in outline).

              But this is so, by the way.
              Volodya Vysotsky sang about this well:
              Amidst the burning candles and evening prayers, Amid the war trophies and peace bonfires
              Book children lived who did not know the battle, Worrying from their petty disasters

              Yes, to be honest, I wanted something more, not a banal "sausage", but let's say, a Kawasaki motorcycle or read science fiction to its fullest, watch "Star Wars", but it was something like ...
              I don’t know how to say for sure ...
              Probably just dreams for which I didn’t want to say die.

              Favorite work, the possibility of self-realization, respect for the State.
              To work like a holiday, from work with joy!

              And then "perestroika" burst out.
              "Seeds of Discord" Fell on Fertile Ground
              The skilled, highly developed working class (yes, you can laugh, but then many workers could give odds to any engineers) simply "absorbed" the "revelations", plus, firmly entrenched in the souls of the Russians (not a single Nation has this, I ANSWER!) The eternal desire to repent of what they didn't do.
              What disputes were in full swing in the workers' teams!

              Now this is unlikely - and the qualifications are lower and there is something to lose ("perestroika" is in everyone's memory, probably even in the genetic one), and the people are completely different.
              And then many beat themselves in the chest and tore their hair
              -ah, we are invaders, invaders, and in general, the USSR Empire of Evil.

              It was a strange time, to be honest.
              Maybe someday it will be rethought, but there was a sabbath, the most "stubborn", fought in remorse.
              To me personally, awareness of everything came only when an eyewitness spoke about the events in Sumgait.

              When there was the Emergency Committee, the plant was just indescribable joy, people said
              -finally!
              I came home and started collecting "shmurdyak"
              wife with mom
              -Where!
              -In the draft board, to wet the scum, FOR GKChP!

              Mama
              -Wait a bit!
              I went out into the courtyard, smoked with the peasants, cracked ...
              Funny and very strange
              -How cut off!

              For Tsar Boris, for Russia!
              And the next day I said
              -Borya can!

              What was that?
              I do not know.
              I will not talk about the notorious "psychotronic weapon", but this does not happen!
              Today you are for the USSR, and tomorrow (literally 2 hours) for Russia ...

              Well then ...
              Then it was necessary to raise Ethylene after the second explosion, it was necessary to live.

              There was great joy when they received the first commercial ethylene, there were tears when the gates of my beloved combine closed behind me (and what if there is no pay!), There was a lot of everything ...

              And the final UNDERSTANDING of what we have lost happened, perhaps, when I was "taksov" for 4 years (I hate the word "bombed" to the shivers!)
              - So many broken fates, so much grief and loss passed through the interior of my cars!

              However, everything that I wrote does not apply to the topic.
              And for the fact that we sat and did nothing, I am very ashamed!

              But whatever it was, we have already outlived our own.
              This is a country of young people.
              You decide!
              We have experience, we will not be lost, it would be health, we will break through!

              And if, nevertheless, you decide to change something, not "cut", but Build, not "sell", but become Independent
              -We are with you, we will help!

              Well, about the fact that Tsar Vova reduced the salary of officials by 10% in general, it's ridiculous, excuse me!
              1. 0
                2 August 2015 10: 25
                In 84 he went to serve, and then he did not understand that the communists "sow" smart, good and useful things. I was a ZAS member, and I was forced to join the CPSU, but I resisted, I just didn’t want to be engaged in empty pi% voluptuousness that flourished in the CPSU. He literally did not digest political workers, considered them rats, hangers-on, and I was alone on the boat, who served all his life in a club on the Russian island, and who came to us before retirement (to receive a pension as a serving on the nuclear submarine, more), put me on kichu repeatedly with with words like he is a political worker of the first military man who puts him on a kichu, especially ZASovets for political misunderstanding. And I never liked to write all sorts of nonsense after Gorbach, which he talked about in cities and villages, which was printed in newspapers with the addition of pages in them (everyone remembers the notebooks for political studies, thick, which had to be filled with all kinds of nonsense?). I asked questions, like to be a communist before, it meant to be in front, to attack first, they are shot in captivity first, and now the communists are simply empty-headed. By the way, in our Far East, the military then knew what Yeltsin was, and during the elections, all crews were advised not to vote for him.
                As before, I already wrote this, but did not miss it. So not everyone was zombie even in those days.
              2. 0
                2 August 2015 14: 22
                Come on father, it was just a cry from the heart. What is done is done. The people then thought that everything was for the better. And then, as now, there were both pluses and minuses. They tried to make it so that the pros became more forgetting that for each two new minuses appear.

                ps Success in writing a book!
        12. +10
          1 August 2015 13: 59
          Therefore, more and more often the question arises: "Who are you Putin and who do you really serve?"
        13. 0
          1 August 2015 19: 05
          the population of Russia, God forbid 140 million ... geyropa -500, China 1 lard with dashing * eat ... plus all the rest India, Iran ... Empty territory of Russia - do you think we have true friends? ... If not Putin then WHO ? Do you want a miracle? -Go and do it ... Howled without Swiss cheeses ... I’ll sit on bread and water ... what the fuck about the bottom? - everything will be even lower. And then the choice will arise - either tilip on the knees behind the cookies, or stand to die!
        14. +4
          1 August 2015 19: 18
          When, finally, will this exit come? How much more GDP is needed to understand that the liberal economy, imposed by the Chubais guides and continued by their successors, coupled with an incompetent government, does not work for the state, at least not for ours.
          Well, we are not on our way with these "economists" and "elita".
          Here, in fact, there is no doubleness, there is only one way out - the fifth column (the essence of which is the current rulers of various sizes), which the GDP at first decided to merge, and then graciously and somehow bashfully scolded, to NAIL! And ... start plowing, without this we won’t crawl out!
        15. +2
          2 August 2015 02: 43
          All is correct. The people continue to be poor, and the Putin team with the aligarchs feel great and continue to get rich. Who do we own the bowels of ??? - everything is correct according to the constitution, like the people, only the people have nothing to do with this. What can not be changed? It is possible, but this requires political will ...
          So for now, everything is like in Krylov’s fable: But you don’t like friends, everyone is not good at musicians.
          Therefore, only dramatic changes are able to break the backbone of this criminal anti-people spike of power and corrupt business with corruption.
          1. -2
            2 August 2015 05: 59
            Damn, you will become president tomorrow, and what will change? How zadolbali you all sofa iksperdy. The revolutionaries are bad. We are ours, we are new ... HOW? Does anyone have a little plan? Too, Lenin turned up for me.
            1. 0
              2 August 2015 08: 36
              There are plans.
              But who will bring them to life?
              It’s sad, but they won’t give up to a competent, responsible person (if anything, this is not unfounded, there is some experience of very good friends)

              Not "Ykspert", but in principle, everything I write is clear and logical, everything is in the "Intelligent" books) and it happened in history).

              Shortly, without details
              1. Refunds from offshore companies.
              2. Nationalization of priority sectors
              3.Pompous and funny, but the Proclamation of an Economic Boost, a return to Socialist values, a Loan to Boost the National Economy, as it was after the War (if anything, I, in principle, am ready to give, but not to today's "team")
              Perhaps the best option would be a trial of the "architects" of "perestroika" and its recognition as illegal - I think this would make many people believe that the Leader has finally appeared.
              4. Definition of priority areas, a partial return to the Planning system, TEST control over the spending of funds in priority sectors!
              5. Frames
              Return to respect for the Man of Labor, return to the educational "vertical" of vocational school-technician-university (with enrollment in the corresponding course, and not like now, all the time from the 1st year!)
              The shortage of qualified mid-level engineering and technical staff should be filled as follows
              -Specialists who graduated from technicians, recertify engineers (in general, count the experience as a Higher Education)

              Is debatable?
              Yes, no, my family!
              Millions of pros cannot take their rightful places, because they have a technical school! Studying at a university?
              About 45 ... 50 years old?

              And what will happen to Production, because when such specialists go, say, on vacation, the production is "sausage"!

              In the meantime ...
              Requires a cleaner at industrial facilities with a higher education ...

              Perhaps enough?
              But all this is nothing more than a concussion (here I totally agree with you!)
              - Nobody will give up power so simply!

              No one will give us deliverance:
              Neither god, nor king, nor hero.
              We will achieve liberation
              With his own hand.
              To overthrow oppression with a skilled hand,
              To win back your good, -
              Blow the hearth and forge boldly
              While the iron is hot!

              Only we, the workers of the world
              Great Army of Labor,
              We have the right to own land
              But parasites never!
              And if the great thunder strikes
              Over a pack of dogs and executioners, -
              For us, the sun will become the same
              Shine with the fire of your rays
              1. 0
                2 August 2015 14: 30
                I apologize, but do you yourself believe in your plan?
        16. 0
          2 August 2015 17: 54
          In which industry are you an expert, education, access to documents, statistics. Chatter at the kitchen level already got it.
        17. 0
          3 August 2015 08: 04
          I think that dear afdjhbn67 expressed the point of view of the majority.
          If you do not take up the cleaning of these vile creatures that are settled in the State Duma and the government - wait for trouble.
          A repeat of 1917 would not be desirable.
        18. 0
          19 August 2015 17: 58
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          having such a profit in the fat years of nichrome did not make a breakthrough did not even come close to this
          Work in progress http://www.awaragroup.com/upload/Awara-Study-Russian-Economy-Rus.pdf
      2. +76
        31 July 2015 16: 27
        does not allow the state to fulfill its duties to the people.

        The article is interesting and useful. But!
        This phrase indicates a poor understanding of certain reasons. Namely!
        The current state machine is created on the principle of scales. Where is the main detail - the stud on which the bowls are balanced. And this carnation president. His main activity is the balance between the "elites" or, more honestly, oligarchs.
        So to ask the state machine is extremely stupid!
        "Telephone and telephone! Chukchi wants to eat!"
        This "state" is not imprisoned for the needs of the people!
        There is not a single capitalist state occupied with the needs of the people — the system is not that!
        And colonies are not created for this, all the more.
        So as the plumber said from the joke, "The system needs to be changed, rotten."
        1. +19
          31 July 2015 17: 18
          Quote: Grandfather Bear
          The system must be changed-rotted.

          She has been like that since 1985, remember there still ....... with a spot on my forehead I drove something about what and how to.
        2. +1
          2 August 2015 08: 56
          There are such countries: Sweden, Switzerland, Canada, Iran, Libya (in the past).
      3. +40
        31 July 2015 16: 33
        What does the liberals have to do with it? What does it have to do with it?
        The pension and official salaries of state employees over the past two years have remained unchanged.
        I’m lying: Over the past two years, salaries of government officials and administrative bodies have doubled.
        ABOUT! AND! Two times the salaries of employees of the diplomatic bodies of the Russian Federation have risen.
        I almost forgot .... The government and the presidential administration DECLINED voluntarily HIMSELF salaries by 10%.
        Products which we refused than COMPENSATED? Raise the pensions and salaries of workers?

        My friend .... Such patriotism is already beginning to strain. wassat
        1. +19
          31 July 2015 16: 43
          Quote: sellrub
          What does the liberals have to do with it? What does it have to do with it?

          What do you mean? While angry
          Quote: sellrub
          The pension and official salaries of state employees over the past two years have remained unchanged.
          I’m lying: Over the past two years, salaries of government officials and administrative bodies have doubled.
          ABOUT! AND! Two times the salaries of employees of the diplomatic bodies of the Russian Federation have risen.

          What is due to Jupiter - not allowed to the bull
          Quote: sellrub
          I almost forgot .... The government and the presidential administration DECLINED voluntarily HIMSELF salaries by 10%

          Role does not play
          it’s impossible to know how much 10% of what you don’t know

          Quote: sellrub
          Products which we refused than COMPENSATED?

          Local production and import substitution
          Quote: sellrub
          My friend .... Such patriotism is already beginning to strain.

          believe me, relaxing is even worse
          Tell me why? Joke on the topic:
          walk along the street dad and son about 7 years old, see a mating of 2 dogs.
          - Dad, and dad! What are they doing?
          - Yes, son, one dog is straining, and the other is relaxing. Got it
          “Yes, dad, I get it.”
          “What did you understand, son?”
          - I realized, dad, that you can’t relax, otherwise Öt ... ut like a dog!
          1. +17
            31 July 2015 17: 24
            Quote: atalef
            Local production and import substitution


            Sasha, dear .... Rosstat gives 70% of counterfeit ... I "give" almost 90% ... fuck this "local production" .. to eat palm oil?
            I now understand why the Belarusians have everything of high quality, because they have oil and gas .. purchased and it is expensive for them to "badyazhit", but we have ... a shaft of everything .. that's what we eat ... "solid E ... and oil substitutes " wassat
            1. +5
              31 July 2015 17: 35
              Quote: ancient
              Sasha, dear .... Rosstat gives 70% of counterfeit ... I "give" almost 90% ... fuck this "local production" .. to eat palm oil?

              Palm oil laughing
              Quote: ancient
              I now understand why the Belarusians have everything of high quality, because they have oil and gas .. purchased and it is expensive for them to "badyazhit"

              Yes, no, there’s just no Medvedev
              Quote: ancient
              but we have ... a shaft of everything .. that's what we eat ... "solid E ... and oil substitutes"

              Sodium and calcium glucanate Yes
              1. 0
                1 August 2015 03: 44
                atalef
                1. Palm oil
                2. Yes, no, there’s just no Medvedev
                Sodium and calcium glucan 3.


                1. So do not eat the choice is yours!
                2. We in Siberia have neither Medvedev nor Old Man, and our products are no worse! The main Yaytsenyukhov not!
                2. Sodium glucanate — it is added in both Germany and PSG (to enhance the taste).
            2. +25
              31 July 2015 21: 48
              ancient - and not in oil business, Colleague - business in "Father" - hence the absence of "oligarchs" and "liberals" in Belarus, which means the presence of quality in Belarusian products ...
              The son and daughter-in-law were in Malaysia, flew from there, somewhere to Burma on an airplane 1,5 thousand km ... returned from Krasnoyarsk by train, in a reserved seat (!) The same 1,5 thousand km and one and a half times more expensive! !! And you - "oil and gas ... a shaft of everything ...", maybe a shaft ... but not here winked
              It’s cheaper to send fish from the Far East to the European part of Russia by sea around the continent than directly by railway - our ecoraraces have drifted into it - huh?
              1. +3
                1 August 2015 09: 01
                It is cheaper to send fish from the Far East to the European part of Russia by sea around the continent than directly by railway - our ecoraraces have drifted to

                Well, yes, Yakun, it’s necessary to build another old silo depository, probably already filled
            3. +6
              1 August 2015 02: 24
              Quote: ancient
              Palm oil

              Actually, this is "palm oil" - a product of fat hydrolysis plus additives for mowing under a still-life ... it only smells of palm trees ... probably ...
              This is essentially margarine in the USSR, but it was made from plant products, but now it’s a chemical synthesis product, horseradish knows what and how ... and there aren’t so many palm trees laughing ... consumption statistics, palm production technology, palm growing season and the required area is calculated at a time what ... google planet to help ... and there aren’t so many palm-planted areas in exporting countries tongue but there are large chemical plants ...
              1. +3
                1 August 2015 08: 18
                Quote: demon is ada
                it smells like palm trees ... probably ...

                The most useful and natural is red palm oil. To obtain it, use gentle technology in which most of the nutrients are preserved. This oil is red due to its high carotene content (it gives the orange color of carrots and red tomatoes).

                Red palm oil has a sweet taste and smell. Researchers came to the conclusion that in the process of refining palm oil, useful substances come out of it. And raw red palm oil contains a huge amount of useful substances. The beneficial properties of palm oil described are mainly related to red palm oil. It has long been eaten by the indigenous inhabitants of Central and West Africa, Central America and Brazil. In Africa, red palm oil is popular as an excellent fat source. Some scholars argue that this oil does not differ in useful properties from olive oil, which is so popular among Europeans.

                Refined and deodorized palm oil is another product. It is odorless and colorless. This is done specifically for use in the food industry. There is GOST R 53776-2010, which describes the requirements for edible palm oil. This oil has the same beneficial properties as palm red oil, but in much smaller quantities.
                There is another type of palm oil - technical, which is used for the production of cosmetics, soap, and more. This oil is five times cheaper than other types of palm oil. It differs from edible oil in its acid-fat composition. This is exactly what our "businessmen" use in the food industry! Due to its low degree of purification, technical palm oil contains a lot of harmful oxidized fats. Unscrupulous manufacturers add such oil to other products, when consumed in the human body, there is an accumulation of free radicals that provoke cancer. Also, the use of technical palm oil leads to the formation of cholesterol plaques.
                But it is very difficult to bring the matter to court, since it is very difficult to identify this oil in the products, so there have been no precedents.
                Speaking about the dangers of palm oil, they mostly mean technical oil. And you need to understand that when buying products that contain palm oil, it is likely to get a product that contains technical oil.
        2. +7
          31 July 2015 17: 20
          Quote: sellrub
          Such patriotism is already beginning to strain


          Why don’t you "strain" on another branch ... article about OMON VV and new shields with stun guns for 120 thousand volts wassat
          Immediately .. "relaxes", urya-patriots .. squeal with delight wassat

          1. +1
            31 July 2015 20: 30
            And in the foreground an enema bucket with typhon needles.
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        3. 0
          2 August 2015 04: 43
          I agree, which is what I constantly write about-officials rule (especially liberal officials).
        4. 0
          2 August 2015 06: 04
          What without cheese dorblu starved completely sick? As you now reminded Ksyushu Sobchak of his post.
      4. +29
        31 July 2015 16: 48
        And from what hangover will our guarantor hang his friends? He gave them the country for the carve-up. They started about Boriska, but now they want to finish it. The faces are the same. And in any case, he (the guarantor) always gives the friends the opportunity to escape to the West. Everything ran away with Skolkov, only Chubais is watching stayed. But to touch him means to sign a sentence for yourself. Here the "guarantors" are shaking with the "leaders".
        1. 0
          31 July 2015 17: 00
          Quote: Tambov Wolf
          Chubais, the beholder remained, but touching him means signing a sentence

        2. +19
          31 July 2015 17: 22
          Quote: Tambov Wolf
          And from what hangover will our guarantor hang his friends?

          http://news.rambler.ru/articles/30915098/
          14:45 Newspaper.Ru
          Vasilyeva disappeared from jail

          Maybe the duck, at least one deputy will attend, will file a request?
          Quote: SSI
          Sorry, apparently you are NOT a pensioner ... Try to live on a pension, even doubled. I wonder how much currency you buy ...

          https://news.mail.ru/politics/22838648/?frommail=1
          The retirement age for officials will be increased from January 1, 2016, the Minister of Labor told reporters
          and social protection of the Russian Federation Maxim Topilin.

          The first swallow! And the guarantor promised another belay And not a single official is rocking. Moreover, they consider pensions not like that of the cesspool workers. In a white shirt you can sit an extra year in the office. By the way, who's to say, how did it happen that in the struggle against privileges, all power, from executive to legislative, has acquired privileges (in my opinion, completely undeserved)?
          What has led a massive and systematic zombie in Ukraine, most of us already understand. What does zombie in Russia lead to? Good President and bad government.
          And, according to the article, the Communist Party, where are you? How do you follow Ilch’s orders to go to the masses?
          1. one
            +4
            1 August 2015 12: 21
            Quote: Was Mammoth

            And, according to the article, the Communist Party, where are you? How do you follow Ilch’s orders to go to the masses?

            The Communist Party of the Russian Federation - we have a "pocket" opposition, as well as the Liberal Democratic Party and others.
            When Yeltsin banned the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, from abroad, the political technologists said to him, "What are you, Dubak? How are you going to control the discontent of the masses? You just have to put an emasculated ram and all that problems at the head ..." and he again solved ...
            bully
          2. +3
            1 August 2015 19: 14
            Quote: There was a mammoth
            The first swallow! And the guarantor promised something else And not a single official will rock the boat. Moreover, they consider pensions not like that of the cesspool workers. In a white shirt you can sit an extra year in the office.

            And under this brand, certainly after 2018 and everyone else, the retirement age will be increased. And it will be important to broadcast from leading heights, they say, you see, we are still in-about-when he raised his retirement age and nothing, we are working.
        3. +1
          31 July 2015 17: 43
          Cool, buddy! You are your own friend.
        4. +11
          31 July 2015 23: 31
          We are discussing something, we are going around ....
          After all, it is obvious that "Chuk" and "Gek" are actors of the same theater, that all ministers and high officials, without exception, are appointed by the guarantor and clearly follow his instructions, that the policy is anti-people, that there will be no changes for the better and there will be no way out of this, only one is a change of government and state structure.
      5. -9
        31 July 2015 16: 48
        I do not mind pulling up a couple of talkers at the river, but there is a nuance, it is not so difficult to start this hanging process, but stopping it later is much more difficult.
        It’s better to introduce an article in the Criminal Code, for example, for activities aimed at harming the Russian Federation or inciting them to automatically deprive of citizenship, confiscation of property, well, last couple of years and forced to live in the north. Yes, and for alarmism, too, the article was once.
        1. +8
          31 July 2015 17: 27
          Quote: tilovaykrisa
          It’s better to introduce an article in the Criminal Code, for example, for activities aimed at harming the Russian Federation or inciting them to automatically deprive of citizenship, confiscation of property and, well, a couple of years and forcibly live in the north


          Already in the "Autumn Duma" such a project from "Bucket" will be considered and accepted .. only there is everything. what do you write + 10 years, otherwise you somehow modest ... with "slaves" something.

          And what not to hang right away, huh? am
        2. +1
          31 July 2015 23: 53
          Quote: tilovaykrisa
          It is better to introduce an article in the Criminal Code, for example, for activities aimed at harming the Russian Federation or incitement to it and automatically deprive of citizenship, confiscation of property.

          On fig machine what PMku easier to carry belay
          1. +1
            1 August 2015 15: 03
            Quote: perepilka
            PMK easier to carry belay

            Well, mininusili, what, normal gun what Well, I don’t like it, drag Nagan, that one has more aiming, more than half a meter or more, you can reliably beat what
            1. 0
              2 August 2015 10: 38
              I put the pros, but for the sake of justice, the machine is better.
      6. +20
        31 July 2015 17: 03
        The guarantor of the constitution is mainly in language for the people and social programs, but everything is done for "business", we can only call it in quotation marks, I would call everyone who made money in the 90s thieves and scum. Well, liberals are traitors and ... Western lizas, and this is almost our entire government, they all live well, they are not up to the people, many of this "elite" simply despise simple and poor people, probably because they do not know how to steal and cheat, and betray too. "Grandfather Bear", I would give you 1000 pluses if it were possible, look at the root!
        1. +15
          31 July 2015 17: 20
          The guarantor, in spite of not being rated, seems to play out. ..to correct the situation is possible only by changing the economic bloc of the government. .., by the way, and with the iPhone boy. .. Why doesn’t he understand? Or why not?
          1. +46
            31 July 2015 17: 34
            Quote: vsoltan
            to correct the situation is possible only by changing the economic bloc of the government. .., by the way, and with the iPhone boy.
          2. +4
            31 July 2015 17: 36
            Quote: vsoltan
            The guarantor, in spite of not being rated, seems to play out. ..to correct the situation is possible only by changing the economic bloc of the government. .., by the way, and with the iPhone boy

            In the new (soon re-elected Duma) he will be a speaker. I can even argue good
            1. 0
              31 July 2015 18: 29
              If you have any thoughts, suggest a successor. .. :-) and I wonder who was minus? And what am I wrong in?
            2. +1
              1 August 2015 04: 46
              atalef
              In the new (soon re-elected Duma) he will be a speaker. I can even argue (


              received
              1. -2
                2 August 2015 10: 42
                Shoigu in the presidency, or Lavrov.
            3. +2
              1 August 2015 09: 19
              Quote: atalef
              In the new (soon re-elected Duma) he will be a speaker. I can even argue

              Guarantor?:-)
            4. 0
              1 August 2015 19: 16
              Quote: atalef
              In the new (soon re-elected Duma) he will be a speaker. I can even argue

              Really the guarantor ???
              1. 0
                1 August 2015 21: 50
                anip (6) RU Today, 19:16 ↑
                Quote: atalef
                In the new (soon re-elected Duma) he will be a speaker. I can even argue
                Really the guarantor ???
                he came for 12 years!
          3. one
            +4
            1 August 2015 12: 28
            Quote: vsoltan
            The guarantor, in spite of not being rated, seems to play out. ..to correct the situation is possible only by changing the economic bloc of the government. .., by the way, and with the iPhone boy. .. Why doesn’t he understand? Or why not?

            how many more years do you need to answer this question?
            laughing
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          5. +1
            2 August 2015 09: 23
            It's like being questioned6 is a bad and kind cop. But in general, both trash.
        2. +9
          31 July 2015 17: 51
          Quote: shtanko.49
          The guarantor of the constitution is mainly for the people and social programs, but everything is done for the "business"
          good good drinks
          Quote: shtanko.49
          many of this "elite" simply despise simple and poor people, probably because they do not know how to steal and cheat, and even betray

          good good drinks pluses are not enough.
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        4. 0
          1 August 2015 19: 18
          Quote: shtanko.49
          I would call anyone who profited in the 90s, called thieves and scum.

          And those after 2000?

          Quote: shtanko.49
          Well, the liberals are traitors and Western lizas, and this is almost our entire government, they all live well, they do not care for the people, many of this "elite" simply despise simple and poor people, probably because they do not know how steal and dishonest, and betray too.

          What about the guarantor? He also has repeatedly stated that he is a liberal.
      7. +30
        31 July 2015 17: 23
        Quote: Flinky
        The President is almond.
        1. +9
          31 July 2015 17: 36
          We have no elites
          1. +1
            1 August 2015 19: 19
            Quote: Vadim237
            We have no elites

            That's right, all "our" elite is actually theirs.
            1. 0
              1 August 2015 20: 38
              The elite is a word generally uncertain to whom it refers, by what criteria - we also have elite homeless people.
        2. +1
          1 August 2015 02: 16
          Apparently, the betrayal of the people and the country is not as annoying as the problems with the liberal-oligarchic clan.
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      10. +18
        31 July 2015 17: 34
        the president is also a liberalist ............ him there too
      11. -15
        31 July 2015 18: 01
        Are you an "economist" ??? The leader said "hang a hundred bourgeoisie" - and the matter will move. Whether he said it or not, it is definitely incomprehensible. I do not understand economics and therefore DO NOT UNDERSTAND why such a joyful "approve!" your comment ... And Delyagin ... It's good that his last name is not Balaganov.
      12. +6
        31 July 2015 18: 03
        You (the people) gave Putin, so to speak, a "credit of trust", but they forgot to give him a magic wand. And why does the same Delyagin not think about the elementary: that the enemies are oligarchs, if they can unite (and if they start hanging or just pinch them, they can), and so, together they are stronger than Putin. You can pinch one at a time, like I walk, but if all at once, then you can fool yourself and break something. Do you want a civil war? So she is already nearby, you already have a million refugees, and not all of them are ice, unfortunately. And some private empires are just waiting for this ...
        Can you hang? Hang up!
      13. +20
        31 July 2015 18: 07
        I am also an ardent supporter of our president, but I will never believe that he does not know and does not see what is happening. In general, our extremely "kind" foreign policy is striking as opposed to an extremely "evil and unkind" domestic policy. For some reason, we love and cherish all the external villains, but we milk our citizens to the fullest and do not let them live. Example: A jet ski at the age of 12, in the suburbs on the Oka I ride once, twice a year, today the tax has arrived at 75 thousand rubles !!!! What is it like??? Who decided that ??? Today the price is less for him !!! This is a small private example of the relationship of power in people, such examples are a carriage and a small cart.
        1. +13
          31 July 2015 19: 54
          Quote: Vyacheslav 64
          I’m an ardent supporter of our president,


          That is why you, as a .. "ardent supporter", will receive another "pill" in the form of a tax on land and real estate wink and again you will shout .. "glory ... and do KU" well, since you are ardent supporters.
          But we are ... mere mortals ... why ... with such a rent ... "tax" wassat

          I put you, by the way +, but only for the tax amount of 75 .. eh, how did they get so goofed off .. I had 150, and better 200 thousand .. and what .. sorry for the expensive and beloved? lol
          1. -6
            31 July 2015 23: 48
            Everything seems to be correct. And then what? On the Maidan, or what, go: down with Putin? So they just wait for this over the hill. Dismantle Putin - they will put Khodorkovsky - he has already given his consent. Would you like Mishiko of Odessa? Or at once - McCain? It is easy to be angry, but you gather the people to support the president, with the slogan "Down with the liberals!" And by letting bile on the forums, we just work for the US State Department.
            1. +6
              1 August 2015 00: 14
              Quote: samuil60
              So this is just waiting for the hill.

              Where do you come from? request
              1. -4
                1 August 2015 10: 01
                And "we" has to do with it? Or are you naively sure that Russia has no enemies? Then you better read the comics :(
              2. 0
                1 August 2015 19: 30
                Quote: Stroporez
                Where do you come from?
            2. +6
              1 August 2015 02: 27
              The people at the threat of the second term of Medvedev’s presidency gathered at the Popular Front to support Putin. And what about Putin?
              Scared.
              Balanced the popular upsurge by the liberal-oligarchic dominance in the government. And why should he be supported by the people if he is afraid to use it?
              1. +4
                1 August 2015 19: 32
                Quote: ARS56
                Why does he need the support of the people, if he is afraid to use it?

                To sit on the throne.
              2. +2
                1 August 2015 22: 27
                Quote: ARS56
                The people at the threat of the second term of Medvedev’s presidency gathered at the Popular Front to support Putin. And what about Putin?

                A command was given from the Presidential Administration and the whole People (in the person of state officials and others, down to the lowest nomenclature) as one, entered the Popular Front to support the President against the threat of his tenor and the second part of the tandem. Yeah!
                But what about the president? And NOTHING - giggles and smirks, Why not, he doesn’t write such posts. wassat
                Like an adult on an avatar .... request
            3. +3
              1 August 2015 09: 21
              Quote: samuil60
              On the Maidan, perhaps, to go: down with Putin?

              Maidan is a purely Ukrainian invention with the appropriate semantics of the name, to use it somewhere else to put it mildly wrong
            4. Alf
              +3
              1 August 2015 20: 07
              Quote: samuil60
              and you gather people - to support the president

              So he already has a rating of 90%. What is the problem? True, the wisest once said, His to surrender zapadlo.
        2. +12
          31 July 2015 20: 06
          Quote: Vyacheslav 64
          I am also an ardent supporter of our president, but I will never believe that he does not know and does not see what is happening.

          And I never voted for him.
          Quote: Vyacheslav 64
          Example: Jet ski at the age of ....

          This is called a "luxury tax". Not fig. Ride along the river. Into the tram.
          1. +15
            31 July 2015 20: 24
            Quote: There was a mammoth
            This is called a "luxury tax". Not fig. Ride along the river. Into the tram.


            Soon the tram .. "will become a luxury" .. cancel all privileges for travel in the municipal hall. +! drinks

            You give a tax on air, rain, hail, wind, clouds, day, night, and so on. wassat



            Very topical cartoon film .. like the film "Ki-dza-dza" soldier
            1. +4
              1 August 2015 10: 04
              Dissatisfied. I am changing a luxurious three-room apartment in the Donetsk region to a similar one in Russia. We are good here, and there is no Putin! : -B
              1. +6
                1 August 2015 13: 48
                Quote: vladimir_krm
                We are good here, and there is no Putin!
                And he said that he would.

                "And if we see that this chaos begins in the eastern regions, if people ask us for help, and we already have an official appeal from the current legitimate president ..."
            2. +1
              1 August 2015 22: 46
              Quote: ancient
              Very Topical Cartoon


              There is such a thing. You're welcome:



              Quote: ancient
              and the film "Ki-dza-dza"


              And that too wink

        3. +3
          1 August 2015 09: 54
          Quote: Vyacheslav 64
          Example: Jet ski at the age of 12, in the Moscow Region on the Oka I ride once, twice a year, today a tax of 75 thousand rubles has come !!!! What is it like??? Who decided this ???



          Jet ski tax with engine power (with each horsepower):

          - up to 100 hp (up to 73,55 kW) inclusive - 125 rubles.

          - over 100 hp (over 73,55 kW) - 250 rubles.


          If you ride twice a year, it's easier to rent.
          In general, this is not a matter of prime necessity, but, frankly, luxury, so do not be sad about this.
          1. 0
            1 August 2015 21: 23
            Quote: Michael_59
            Jet ski tax ... 125 rub. ... 250 rub.
            And from Vyacheslav 64, as from his "ardent supporter", Putin takes 500 taxes for one jet ski. Someone tries and doesn't jump ...
        4. +2
          1 August 2015 19: 26
          Quote: Vyacheslav 64
          Example: Jet ski at the age of 12, in the Moscow Region on the Oka I ride once, twice a year, today a tax of 75 thousand rubles has come !!!! What is it like???

          And nothing, shout more "glory", you
          Quote: Vyacheslav 64
          ardent supporter of our president
          You must like this very much. And yes, since you can have a jet ski (and to it, anyway, and a trailer for its transportation in the appendage, and to it, in the appendage, also a Lexus jeep come on), then, apparently, you have a financial basis to shout "glory". And indeed, as I wrote ancient:
          Quote: ancient
          I put you, by the way +, but only for the tax amount of 75 .. eh, how did they get so goofed off .. I had 150, and better 200 thousand .. and what .. sorry for the expensive and beloved?
    2. +8
      31 July 2015 14: 50
      Wait, buddy, wait. And tantrums do not need sound thoughts.
      1. +32
        31 July 2015 15: 03
        Quote: NordUral
        Wait, buddy, wait. And tantrums do not need sound thoughts.

        True, a tantrum will not help. And Delyagin criticizes competently, in my opinion. Yesterday I watched the film once again - as if they had shot about today. Enjoy viewing, but liberals may not watch. And this experience would be nice to use.
        1. +22
          31 July 2015 15: 22
          Putin, alas, not Stalin ...
          1. +7
            31 July 2015 16: 52
            Putin ... Stalin ... Mao, Castro ... it's not about them, it's about the system ... the political-economic ... the current system will not bring the country to good, there is no freedom of entrepreneurship, in business, and there are no sovereigns, patriots in power, here they are supposedly "fighting" against the Tribaltic sprats, but they are in stores, everyone is obsessed with profit, for profit ... greed has swallowed ALL ...
            1. +1
              31 July 2015 20: 33
              Quote: Shpagolom
              all are obsessed with profit, profit ... greed absorbed ALL of ......

              Yes, not without it.
              1. +5
                1 August 2015 09: 11
                .... "yes, not without it" is not an excuse for the current situation, the state is for people ... for the whole people, and not for the elite and the lucky, because the country must (and will) think about children (not healthy ), for the elderly, for medicine, education, for real freedom, legality, and in the end, for JUSTICE!
            2. -5
              1 August 2015 04: 34
              ..... so what do you sharpen your hair? do something worthwhile! Show me what is capable or as worthless as in the ruin?
              1. +4
                1 August 2015 09: 17
                ..... For a start, contact "you" or you will be sent .... "to" or "to"!

                Show? Watch it! good
            3. +1
              1 August 2015 09: 23
              Quote: Shpagolom
              and in power there are no sovereigns, patriots

              But what were they in the 17th?
          2. +8
            31 July 2015 19: 04
            He said that we are not the 37th year. Because not Stalin
          3. -7
            31 July 2015 20: 30
            Quote: afdjhbn67
            Putin, alas, not Stalin ...

            Stalin, having nominally become the head of the USSR in 1929, took power under his control only in 1939, destroying the "old guard" with the help of L.P. Beria, who unleashed massive repressions in the country, not wanting to lose warm places, and cleaning up all potential competitors for leading positions. Putin took control of everything he could, but the times are not Stalinist now, it is difficult to take full control of our cosmopolitan financial and industrial elite in 9-10 years. Globalization, not only economics but also politics, hinders. But Putin, in my opinion, is moving in the right direction. Slowly but moving. And walk wide, you will tear your pants. Have patience and everything will come on time.
            1. 0
              31 July 2015 20: 55
              Damn, when you understand that politics is below the sewer. Surname Yezhov, doesn’t mean anything? Does Stalin idealize the boom? He was in the blood and shit on the shoulders, the USSR pulled out, with bloody mistakes and defeats, dragged him out in the end.
              Despite, he still believed in people. Until the 60th, there was no liability for wearing any shot, and the smoothbore and small things, in any village store, could be taken, simply by passport, or military ID. At the expense of the limits of necessary self-defense, the constitution has since


              Article 131. Every citizen of the USSR is obliged to protect and strengthen public, socialist property, as the sacred and inviolable basis of the Soviet system, as a source of wealth and power of the motherland, as a source of prosperous and cultural life for all working people.

              Persons encroaching on public, socialist property are enemies of the people.
              With all that it implies.
              Well, there are volunteers to plow, saplings in a mud bath, to break it, in spite of fatigue, and all in order to make life better for others? Can hto, "urya" shout?
              1. +3
                1 August 2015 10: 10
                No. My father had to pass a personalized TT long before the 60th. I don’t remember about the little ones and other things, but I still needed a hunting ticket when buying. Was at home "Belka" (small car + shotgun) and Izh-12.
            2. +7
              31 July 2015 21: 19
              Quote: Nick
              Stalin, having become nominally at the head of the USSR in 1929, took power under his control only in 1939, destroying the "old guard"
              Stop talking nonsense.

              Stalin never stood at the head of the USSR (especially nominally) and never destroyed any "old guard", since, along with his comrades-in-arms, he was this very "guard"

              But who were really "destroyed" were counter-revolutionary elements and opportunists dreaming of an open liberal economy, and this "destruction" took place in accordance with the law, and not at the whim of Stalin.

              Putin took control of everything that he could, but now is not Stalin’s time, for 9-10 years to take complete control of our cosmopolitan financial and industrial elite is difficult
              Is it schizoid conspiracy thesis, or conspiracy schizophrenia? The fourth chapter of the constitution, open.

              Globalization, not only economics but also politics, is in the way
              The main directions of foreign and domestic policy (whether it be a course towards any globalization, or towards the "iron curtain") is determined by the President of the Russian Federation, but the supporters of the KSP are still unknown. laughing
              1. +3
                1 August 2015 00: 38
                Quote: Uncle Joe
                Stalin never led the USSR (all the more so nominally)

                In fact, from the 41st Glavkoverkh with the subsequent transfer of this to all the general secretaries and the president of the Russian Federation. Visually, Yeltsin and the shooting of the White House in 1993, showed who has power. Cynically?
                1. +5
                  1 August 2015 01: 36
                  Quote: perepilka
                  In fact, from the 41st Glavkoverkh with the subsequent transfer of this to all the general secretaries and the president
                  Yes, but not the head of state, but the head of government - the prime minister.

                  And the head of the USSR - “According to the system of our Constitution, the USSR should not have a sole president elected by the entire population, on a par with the Supreme Soviet, and able to oppose himself to the Supreme Soviet. The collegiate president in the USSR is the Presidium of the Supreme Council, including the chairman of the Presidium of the Supreme Councilelected not by the entire population, but by the Supreme Council and accountable to the Supreme Council. The experience of history shows that such a construction of the supreme organs is the most democratic, guaranteeing the country against unwanted accidents" (I. Stalin t. 14 p. 144)

                  Visually, Yeltsin and the shooting of the White House in 1993, showed who has power. Cynically?
                  No, but I don’t understand where does this come about - Stalin was responsible for operational and strategic planning, coordinated and carried out control, and the armed forces obeyed him because the Supreme Council vested him with such powers, and not by virtue of any rule like the constitution.

                  Reread the last sentence of the quote - there is just about why it was done that way.
                  1. +1
                    1 August 2015 02: 11
                    Quote: Uncle Joe
                    Yes, but not the head of state, but the head of government - the prime minister.

                    What's the difference? Feudal "vassal of my vassal", well, never. As a result, we rule the legislative, executive and judicial, and whoever objects, so easily changes to the convenient and obedient, accompanied by the cries of "Approved". Vissarionich, after all, didn’t resign after the end of the Second World War, he created a precedent, damn it, he didn’t break through to the future. You can call it whatever you like, but in fact request
                    due to the fact that The Supreme Council vested him with such powers, and not by virtue of any rule like the constitution.
                    Here. Where do we put the constitution? what Bookmark on page 144?
                    No, but I don’t understand where does it
                    And Boriska, by inertia, gave the Supreme Council the authority to command the firing squad, is everything right? belay
                    In fact?
                    So who is in charge? Not, not by words and declarations, but by deeds what Well, the bullet is somehow more painful than the verb is perceived, although Vissarionych was not afraid of this even once, I repeat, there was no ban on carrying weapons in the Criminal Code with him, any A smoothbore and small things, you could buy in any rural store by showing your passport. A small thing, TOZ-8, something about 7-8 rubles cost.
                    1. +3
                      1 August 2015 02: 57
                      Quote: perepilka
                      And the difference?
                      As between the president and his prime minister.

                      Feudal
                      What is feudal?

                      As a result, we rule legislative, executive and judicial, and whoever objects, so easily changes to the convenient and obedient, accompanied by the cries of "Approved"
                      Can I have abstractions?

                      Who drove what if without the approval of the Supreme Council no initiative came into force?

                      Vissarionich, after the end of the Second World War, he didn’t resign from the authority of the commander-in-chief, created a precedent
                      Firstly, the commander-in-chief in the USSR is a post, not a function within the post (as it is now), and secondly, he was reassigned.

                      but in fact
                      In fact, one must be based on facts, not speculation.

                      Here. Where do we put the constitution?
                      Read it first, and then pop into where it sticks.

                      And Boriska, by inertia, gave the Supreme Council the authority to command the firing squad, is everything right?
                      Have you had a drink? And what kind of changes were made to the constitution in the 77th representation you have? Do you know what the counter-revolutionary process is? And from the 40s - 50s to the end of the 80s, the beginning of the 90s and back deliberately jump, or the wind of history blows?

                      So who is in charge? Not, not by words and declarations, but by deeds
                      One who has the ability to exercise (or not exercise) his authority.
                      1. +1
                        1 August 2015 09: 34
                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        Who drove what if without the approval of the Supreme Council no initiative came into force?

                        You attach too much importance to Mikhail Ivanovich Kalinin :-) There was a leading and guiding role of the party, who led the party, he led and directed everyone, the saying "who is not with us is against us" remember?
                      2. 0
                        2 August 2015 09: 45
                        And who in fact led the party?
              2. +2
                1 August 2015 09: 26
                Quote: Uncle Joe
                Stalin never stood at the head of the USSR (especially nominally) and never destroyed any "old guard", since, along with his comrades-in-arms, he was this very "guard"

                But who were really "destroyed" were counter-revolutionary elements and opportunists dreaming of an open liberal economy, and this "destruction" took place in accordance with the law, and not at the whim of Stalin.

                In what, and why is Andrei Yanuarievich Vyshinsky, the Menshevik, and held such an important position, and that all political processes have been initiated by themselves since 1934?
                1. +1
                  1 August 2015 14: 34
                  Quote: rosarioagro
                  You attach too much importance to Mikhail Ivanovich Kalinin
                  I do not attach too much importance to Kalinin, since firstly - "The President in the USSR is collegial, - this is the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet, including (but no more) and the chairman of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet ", and secondly -" The Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR is accountable to the Supreme Soviet of the USSR in all its activities (Article 48). "

                  There was a leading and guiding role of the party, who led the party, he led and directed everyone, the saying "who is not with us is against us" remember?
                  I beg you - let's not mix the USSR of the counter-revolutionary period anymore:

                  The leading and guiding force of Soviet society, the core of his political system, state and public organizations is the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. The CPSU exists for the people and serves the people (Article 6 of the Constitution of 77)

                  From the USSR of the socialist period:

                  In accordance with the interests of the working people and in order to develop organizational activity and political activity of the masses, citizens of the USSR are guaranteed the right to join public organizations: trade unions, cooperative associations, youth organizations, sports and defense organizations, cultural, technical and scientific societies, and the most active and conscious citizens from the ranks of the working class, working peasants and labor intelligentsia voluntarily unite in the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, which is the foremost detachment of workers in their struggle to build a communist society and represents the leading core of all workers' organizations, both public and state. (Article 126 of the Constitution of 36)

                  Article 126 (36 years) is in the section "Basic rights and obligations of citizens"
                  Article 7 (77 years) is in the section "Foundations of the social system and politics of the USSR" in the chapter "Political system".

                  In what, and why is Andrei Yanuarievich Vyshinsky, a Menshevik
                  Why not? The post is not political; he himself was not in any way reprehensible.
                  Do you know how the Mensheviks differed from the Bolsheviks, or do you use the word as a curse word?
                  1. +1
                    1 August 2015 15: 52
                    Quote: Uncle Joe
                    Why not? The post is not political; he himself was not in any way reprehensible.

                    I know, because I needed it for such a job, and no one could touch it, because was needed by one person, whose disobedience was tantamount to treason

                    "... I beg you - let's no longer confuse the USSR of the counter-revolutionary period:"
                    What did you mean? The leading role of the party began right after the revolution, that it was enshrined in the constitution of the 1977 of the year, it is rather a formality
                    1. +1
                      1 August 2015 16: 21
                      Quote: rosarioagro
                      I know, because I needed it for such a job, and no one could touch it, because was needed by one person, whose disobedience was tantamount to treason
                      This is from the category of conspiracy theological fiction, in other words, where are the facts?

                      What did you mean? The leading role of the party began right after the revolution
                      After the revolution, the leading role of the Soviets of People's Deputies began, to which more and more Bolsheviks came to wear every year.

                      that it was enshrined in the 1977 constitution
                      It was the next step towards counter-revolution.

                      What do you base your "conclusions" on?
                    2. +2
                      1 August 2015 21: 56
                      Quote: rosarioagro
                      What did you mean? The leading role of the party began right after the revolution, that it was enshrined in the constitution of the 1977 of the year, it is rather a formality

                      I apologize, but here you are not quite right. Not only the Bolsheviks, but also other revolutionary parties, left SRs, anarchists, and partly Mensheviks took an active part in the October events. In the first government, organized by the Second All-Russian Congress of Soviets, the government, besides the Bolsheviks, included Mensheviks, Socialist-Revolutionaries, and Anarchists. Therefore, the leading role of one party was not. There was a multi-party system. the leading role of the RSDLP (b), acquired only after it was dealt with by associates.
              3. 0
                1 August 2015 20: 03
                Quote: Uncle Joe
                Quote: Nick
                Stalin, having become nominally at the head of the USSR in 1929, took power under his control only in 1939, destroying the "old guard"
                Stop talking nonsense.

                Stalin never stood at the head of the USSR (especially nominally) and never destroyed any "old guard", since, along with his comrades-in-arms, he was this very "guard"

                But who were really "destroyed" were counter-revolutionary elements and opportunists dreaming of an open liberal economy, and this "destruction" took place in accordance with the law, and not at the whim of Stalin.

                Putin took control of everything that he could, but now is not Stalin’s time, for 9-10 years to take complete control of our cosmopolitan financial and industrial elite is difficult
                Is it schizoid conspiracy thesis, or conspiracy schizophrenia? The fourth chapter of the constitution, open.

                Globalization, not only economics but also politics, is in the way
                The main directions of foreign and domestic policy (whether it be a course towards any globalization, or towards the "iron curtain") is determined by the President of the Russian Federation, but the supporters of the KSP are still unknown. laughing

                You are talking nonsense. Either from ignorance, or from thirst for profit, or an aberration of consciousness.
                1. +1
                  1 August 2015 21: 59
                  Quote: Nick
                  You are talking nonsense. Either from ignorance, or from thirst for profit, or an aberration of consciousness.
                  Oh how.
                  What was the title of head of state called in the USSR, and during what period did Stalin occupy it?
            3. +7
              1 August 2015 00: 46
              Quote: Nick
              Have patience and everything will come on time.

              You probably have an iron patel ... belay
            4. -7
              1 August 2015 04: 37
              ..... I agree, that's why they shout "klikushi" so that we would destroy the country with our own hands. And made a "cesspool" out of Russia as in ruins.
            5. +2
              1 August 2015 07: 14
              In the right, it is in the right. Well, how will we get a blow from the Baltic states by American and German divisions on the frost. Leopards and Abrams 12 hours walk to Moscow. "After his visit to the United States, the commander of the Latvian armed forces, Raymond Graube, announced that American heavy weapons will begin to be deployed in Latvia this autumn. The deployment of tanks and other American armored vehicles will be carried out at the Latvian Adazi training ground."
              ... http://topwar.ru/79959-pentagon-uzhe-osenyu-prevratit-latviyskiy-poligon-adazhi-
              v-svoyu-ocherednuyu-military-bazu.html
            6. Alf
              +4
              1 August 2015 20: 10
              Quote: Nick
              Have patience and everything will come on time.

              We would live to see this time, otherwise we’ll lie in the hole, repeating Putin’s cunning plan, Putin’s cunning plan ...
            7. 0
              2 August 2015 09: 39
              And Deng Xiao Ping? And Gaddafi?
          4. -2
            1 August 2015 04: 33
            afdjhbn67
            Putin, alas, not Stalin ...


            .....and thank God!!!!! The truth behind the hill says the opposite!
        2. -13
          31 July 2015 17: 09
          Again this bloodsucker. He knew how to govern the country only by executions !! Feegley wasn't smart enough. But in this case, I will agree, he built the closed economy competently, the man was an economic one. Therefore, after the introduction of sanctions, there is no point in inventing something, it is necessary 1. Completely monopolize all foreign trade in the hands of the state. 2. Think about a single-tier banking system. 3. Stop accumulating green reserves and buying empty bonds. 4. All this money should be sent to the reserve fund and the welfare fund, part of which is given out for low-interest loans for agriculture and production. It is possible, necessary and even necessary to mobilize the economy. After all, create a national payment system. 5. Even more tighten the legislation for economic crimes and especially, especially corruption !!
          1. +13
            31 July 2015 17: 26
            [b Roman 11 (3) RU Today, 17: 09 ↑
            This bloodsucker again. He knew how to manage the country only by executions !! Figley, there wasn’t enough mind for more. [/ B]

            Your comment is not bad. ..but why run into Stalin? Read the story. .. and then, just like our rainbow "intelligentsia" ... grumble - shootings, shootings. ... how many were there, these shootings? How many of them are unfair?
            1. -4
              31 July 2015 20: 30
              Quote: vsoltan
              our rainbow "intelligentsia" ... grumble - shootings, shootings. ... how many were there, these shootings? How many of them are unfair?

              Did the bourgeoisie manage the economy through executions ?? Here Kuznetsov and Voznesensky banged, and for what? Walled Vavilov, Chubar, Kossior, Kosarev, Kedrov, M. Koltsov, an infinite number of others
              1. +3
                31 July 2015 22: 16
                Roman 11

                Well, let’s put the swindler Vavilov and the Komsomol member Kosyrev for the case into the flow allowed. ..
                1. 0
                  1 August 2015 09: 36
                  Quote: vsoltan
                  Well, let’s put the swindler Vavilov and the Komsomol member Kosyrev for the case into the flow allowed. .

                  in both, Pavel Rychagov and his wife probably also for "cheating", and many others
                  1. Alf
                    +1
                    1 August 2015 20: 24
                    Quote: rosarioagro
                    in both, Pavel Rychagov and his wife probably also for "cheating", and many others

                    In response to Stalin’s question why there was a high accident rate in the Soviet fighter units of the Air Force before the war, he answered, “We won’t figure it out.”
                    1. 0
                      1 August 2015 20: 48
                      haunted Palestine

                      First of all, let me remind you what kind of person this is, whose opinion my German colleagues are ready to listen to.

                      During a discussion of the problem of illegal immigration with schoolchildren from Rostock, German Chancellor Angela Merkel said that the number of people who want to stay in the country of illegal immigrants significantly exceeds the possibilities of Germany. In addition, the presence of hundreds of thousands of foreigners living in Germany without permission creates a serious social, demographic and political problem.

                      Earlier, Merkel spoke about the complete failure of the principle of "multi-cult" - multiculturalism, which liberal theorists considered the country's bright future. It is easy to guess that the vast majority of applicants for German citizenship or residence permits are not Christians. And how many foreigners begin to behave and, especially, their descendants born after legalization in Europe, we know from the sad example of France, Belgium, and Germany itself.

                      But back to Rostock. At some point, one of the schoolgirls asked for the floor, which was noticeably different in appearance from most teenagers. In excellent German, fourteen-year-old Reem Sauil told her story: she was born in a Palestinian refugee camp in the Lebanese valley of Bekaa, has been living with her parents in Germany for four years, all attempts to legalize have not been successful, and she will soon be deported. But she really wants to continue her studies and build her life in her new homeland.
                    2. 0
                      1 August 2015 20: 48
                      haunted Palestine

                      First of all, let me remind you what kind of person this is, whose opinion my German colleagues are ready to listen to.

                      During a discussion of the problem of illegal immigration with schoolchildren from Rostock, German Chancellor Angela Merkel said that the number of people who want to stay in the country of illegal immigrants significantly exceeds the possibilities of Germany. In addition, the presence of hundreds of thousands of foreigners living in Germany without permission creates a serious social, demographic and political problem.

                      Earlier, Merkel spoke about the complete failure of the principle of "multi-cult" - multiculturalism, which liberal theorists considered the country's bright future. It is easy to guess that the vast majority of applicants for German citizenship or residence permits are not Christians. And how many foreigners begin to behave and, especially, their descendants born after legalization in Europe, we know from the sad example of France, Belgium, and Germany itself.

                      But back to Rostock. At some point, one of the schoolgirls asked for the floor, which was noticeably different in appearance from most teenagers. In excellent German, fourteen-year-old Reem Sauil told her story: she was born in a Palestinian refugee camp in the Lebanese valley of Bekaa, has been living with her parents in Germany for four years, all attempts to legalize have not been successful, and she will soon be deported. But she really wants to continue her studies and build her life in her new homeland.
              2. Alf
                +2
                1 August 2015 20: 22
                Quote: Novel 11
                bourgeois ruled the economy through executions ?? Here Kuznetsov and Voznesensky banged, and for what? Walled Vavilov, Chubar, Kossior, Kosarev, Kedrov, M. Koltsov, an infinite number of others

                And you take a closer look at what Voznesensky was shot for.
                Somehow, the secret documents of the State Planning Commission after the war surfaced in Britain.
                In 1949, state security agencies began organizing the largest series of political processes in the post-war period - the so-called “Leningrad affair”. The head of the State Planning Commission Voznesensky was to become a key figure in the conspiracy to overthrow the Soviet power and secession of Russia from the USSR, making Leningrad the capital of the new state. [5] The Leningrad affair, the Voznesensky affair and the Gosplan Affair were closely intertwined and complemented each other, they were the result of rivalry and struggle between Stalin's comrades-in-arms at the highest echelons of power [source not specified 1957 days].
                The result of the adoption of the resolution of the Council of Ministers of the USSR of March 5, 1949 "On the State Planning Committee of the USSR" [6] and the decision of the Politburo of September 11, 1949 "On the numerous facts of the loss of secret documents in the State Planning Committee of the USSR" resulted in significant personnel cleaning in the apparatus of the State Planning Committee of the USSR:

                Koltsov called himself a Trotskyist back in Spain. It would be surprising if the "bloody gebnya" were not interested in this.
          2. +17
            31 July 2015 18: 48
            Shitty you know the history of the USSR and watered the economy. In the USSR, it was just NORMAL. STABLE EXTRA two-level banking system. Read any Soviet textbook on economics .... I’m telling you as a person with PE education
          3. +17
            31 July 2015 19: 35
            This bloodsucker again. ,,
            Do you know how many people Russia lost from ,, nekrovososov ,, Yeltsin and Gaidar?
            Send all this money to the reserve fund and welfare fund, ,,
            what they are stubbornly doing, thereby supporting the economy of Sashka.
          4. +6
            31 July 2015 22: 54
            Quote: Novel 11
            This bloodsucker again. He knew how to manage the country only by executions !! Figley, there wasn’t enough mind for more.

            Statistics know everything. Not interested in the data? what
            Paragraph, damn it, shot 100500 mullons of all, ammo what kind of expense, and then shot corpses, in thirty-four, he threw the Wehrmacht to death belay . Yes, under the gun of corpses of the NKVD officers recourse , byad, and then, these corpses, another million Germans otenekromantili. Fantasy cho what
            And, a classically illiterate transition to the current economic management of the USSR of the principles of farming.
            It is only necessary to return education to the old level of the USSR, not, the 50s, as amended for this century laughing and create a bureau for inventions introducing them into the industry, with constant rotation, 20% of inventors, 80% of technologists what . Why such an imbalance? To remove what is impossible in the current situation. And so that the inventors, become technologists, learn, damn it, no one forbids.
            There is a saying in the army, the initiative is punished by execution. Come up with a little, like, what did you come up with to do?
          5. Alf
            +1
            1 August 2015 20: 16
            Quote: Novel 11
            it is necessary to 1. Completely monopolize all foreign trade in the hands of the state. 2. Think about a single-tier banking system. 3. Stop accumulating green reserves and buying empty bonds. 4. All this money should be sent to the reserve fund and the welfare fund, part of which is given out for low-interest loans for agriculture and production. It is possible, necessary and even necessary to mobilize the economy. After all, create a national payment system. 5. Even more tighten the legislation for economic crimes and especially, especially corruption !!

            You forgot the most important point of your program.
            To do all this, you must first change the social structure of the state. But with this the great somehow does.
        3. +5
          31 July 2015 18: 00
          thanks, the movie is super
          1. +9
            31 July 2015 18: 59
            Quote: pupazzo
            thanks, the movie is super

            I think that we still have a lot of interesting things to learn, and the liberals do not care about the piggy squeal! You cannot revive a country without discipline.
            There is no less interesting film "USSR - the collapse of the empire", 7 episodes. Just look at how the eyes of the interviewees are running around, they don't know what to lie.
            1. +8
              31 July 2015 19: 57
              Quote: villain
              You cannot revive a country without discipline.


              For the movie, +! For koment the same, +! drinks But the question is ... who will lead the revival? wassat
              And how to cure the body if all vital organs are affected by an "incurable disease" ... that's the question request recourse
              1. +8
                31 July 2015 20: 10
                Quote: ancient
                But the question is ... who will lead the revival?

                I’m sorry, but I have not yet seen the leader. In power, and next to them, including in the media, some hucksters and a liberal husk. Primarily. The opposition is almost all pocket-sized, a play. There are some things that say the right thing, but one thing to say, another to do. Putin also says, however. . .
                1. +6
                  31 July 2015 20: 28
                  Quote: villain
                  Putin also says, however. .


                  Well, he has something, all the same, some kind of Higher education, +! drinks
                  I'm the same when ... "pump", but if you also for aviation ... ... you can't stop a grenade ... I will talk and talk and talk lol
                  1. +6
                    31 July 2015 21: 22
                    Quote: ancient
                    Putin also says, however. .

                    Well, he’s got all the same, but a Higher education

                    It is impossible not to agree with you, his education is rather sickly, a lawyer and a doctor of economic sciences. But material values ​​are created by people with a different education and specialties. "Yurizm" and "ekonomizm" are auxiliary functions of the state and production, in my opinion. In general, I looked at the owners of higher, more precisely, higher education. Even back in the USSR. The diploma does not always correspond to the owner, and now even more so, alas.
                    It turns out as in I. Krylov's fable "The Horse and the Dog"

                    One peasant serving,
                    A dog and a horse somehow began to be considered.
                    “Here,” says Barbos, “the big lady!
                    For me, if only you were completely driven out of the yard,
                    Great thing to haul or plow!
                    Do not hear about your boldness:
                    And can you be equal in what with me?
                    Neither day nor night do I know peace:
                    In the afternoon, the herd under my supervision in the meadow,
                    And at night I guard the house! ".-
                    "Of course, - the Horse answered, -
                    Your truthful speech;
                    However, when I didn’t plow,
                    Then there was nothing for you here to guard. "
                2. +3
                  1 August 2015 01: 29
                  that's exactly what sadness is - the landscape is deserted to tears ...
      2. -19
        31 July 2015 15: 08
        I think that the money that our economy lacks is gradually pouring into it through major infrastructure projects. If we stupidly raise pensions and salaries this will lead to inflation and buying up currency, I think the authorities act as carefully as possible, enough shock therapy from us ..
        1. FID
          +23
          31 July 2015 15: 20
          Quote: DEfindER
          If we stupidly raise pensions and salaries this will lead to inflation and buying up currency, I think the authorities act as carefully as possible, enough shock therapy from us ..

          Sorry, apparently you are NOT a pensioner ... Try to live on a pension, even doubled. I wonder how much currency you buy ...
          1. 0
            31 July 2015 21: 23
            Quote: SSI
            Sorry, apparently you are NOT a pensioner ... Try to live on a pension, even doubled. I wonder how much currency you buy ...
            - Definder deferred how much in vain. That's really from you, like a competent techie, I did not expect such illiterate emotional comments. fool
            Quote: SSI
            Try to retire

            - Of course, you can’t live without emotions, but increase these pensions by thirty (not twice!, and by a third!), and the next day in stores the price jump is not even thirty, but more than percent! In our elections (they just recently passed), Nazarabaev always pensions are raised, people are accustomed - both, pensions are increased, buy up in the store, otherwise starving pensioners will rush to buy everything, thereby causing price increases.
            Whatever this was, the iron rule must be respected - labor productivity increased by 10% - you can afford a wage increase of 8 (no more!) Percent. Labor productivity does not grow, but wages grow and pensions increase - that’s all, be inflation.
            I understand that you are not an economist, but a techie, but the fact of the matter is that a techie, mastering complex sciences like sopromat or theorem, must understand economics, if only because economics as a science is much simpler than these technical sciences, and everything in the economy is quite logically and logically interconnected. And here you minus the chela because he is, in general, right, and "triple my pension!" And what this will lead to - few people think. They scold the Maidanovskys - they say, I don’t think what their jumps will lead to, but they themselves don’t think the same way what the unreasonable (unjustified growth of labor productivity!) Increase in salaries and pensions will lead to
            1. FID
              +11
              31 July 2015 21: 36
              Quote: aksakal
              - Definder deferred how much in vain. That's really from you, like a competent techie, I did not expect such illiterate emotional comments.

              In the USSR for 132 rubles, I would not even think about the economy, but the "economists" have already got me. Go and support the country's defense - smart guys, God forgive me ...
              1. -5
                1 August 2015 04: 42
                FID
                In the USSR, for 132 rubles, I would not have thought about the economy


                Then the trees were very big ..... Alas, the main economy! It was by controlling the system like speckled cards that the PSG destroyed the USSR and are trying to destroy Russia too!
              2. +1
                1 August 2015 09: 41
                Quote: SSI
                and the "economists" already got me

                By squeezing the money supply of the type struggling with inflation, such a fix idea, maybe it was worth the industry to develop, increasing employment, literacy, budget revenues, increasing the money supply and, as a result, increasing pensions?
                1. +1
                  1 August 2015 10: 35
                  Quote: rosarioagro
                  Squeezing Money Type Fighting Inflation

                  Unfortunately, this is an economic law, with a drop in production and the absence of effective investment methods.
                  Quote: rosarioagro
                  , the fix idea is this, maybe it was worth the industry to develop,

                  Well, this conversation is not today, but at least the whole past decade.
                  Of course, I understand what everyone thinks - which are stupid in the West. but they made a very simple move that did not require much tension from them
                  They lowered oil prices and limited capital flows.
                  And that’s it, it’s all pumped up. You think (in the West) they didn’t understand the weakness of the Russian economy, or do their intelligence agencies think they eat bread for nothing?
                  The problem is why this was not seen (or did not want to see) in the country's leadership.
                  Putin lived and continues to live hostage to his concept
                  Oil prices will not fall, Europe is weak, America is in debt.
                  It was really necessary to assess the situation - there would not be these problems
              3. 0
                9 August 2015 16: 00
                Quote: SSI
                In the USSR, for 132 rubles, I would not even think about the economy,

                That's just the point that then thought of economy, and these 132 rubles. strictly corresponded to her. The amount of money in the country should correspond to the amount of goods, in the USSR there was a huge amount of goods, respectively, and there was enough money for everyone ..
            2. +7
              1 August 2015 03: 43
              and raise salaries for officials instead of pensions, is it a fight against inflation?
            3. Alf
              +3
              1 August 2015 20: 33
              Quote: aksakal
              but increase these pensions by thirty (not twice!, but by a third!), and the next day in stores the price jump is not even thirty, but more percent!

              Prices in the store will jump not because the pensions were raised and pensioners rushed to buy, but because the owner of the store saw an influx of buyers and simply, by raising prices, decided to increase his profit.
              And to prevent this from happening, there should be state-owned stores. And the private trader, the volley-nevolens, will be forced to restrain his hapnic impulses.
            4. +1
              2 August 2015 00: 08
              Quote: aksakal
              Well, I’m not expecting such illiterate emotional comments from you, like a competent techie.
              Quote:
              Quote: SSI
              Try to retire

              - Of course, you can’t live without emotions, but increase these pensions by thirty (not twice!, and by a third!), and the next day in stores the price jump is not even thirty, but more than percent! In our elections (they just recently passed) Nazarabaev always pensions are raised, people are accustomed - both, pensions are increased, buy up in the store, otherwise starving pensioners will rush to buy everything thereby provoking a rise in prices.

              The writer still manages to teach someone the mind belay
              Starving pensioners spur inflation!
              Although after the pearls of the elder about the robber river Stalin's court can expect anything at all.

              For example, what this educated person, "expert" in politics and economics, wrote three years ago.

              9 August 2012 14: 39

              Quote: aksakal
              .... Especially tell me about oil that the States will drop at once ...
              I already understood your level from this pearl. Malshik pants with straps! Here is naive, and already in a hurry to put up marks and argue with the big guys. Let's justify your "drop the price", since I took up such a statement, and I'll see if I can eat you this time or somehow later, but before that I laugh heartily. Tell us what instruments the States have for this, what reason for them to drop prices at all, even if there are instruments for dropping ...

              Do not remind, dear elder, what was the price of oil in August 2012 and what is it now?
              In the light of today's attitude that the United States is to blame for everything that is bad in the world, especially with regard to Russia, as you think; a drop in oil prices - the work of the US?
              Any reasons and tools?
              From the heart KIND no desire?
        2. +7
          31 July 2015 16: 37
          If the authorities will STOP on the background of inflation and .... IN YOUR interests, raise ONLY YOURSELVES to your beloved salaries ... then something may change.
        3. +15
          31 July 2015 16: 53
          Quote: DEfindER
          I think that the money that our economy lacks is gradually pouring into it through major infrastructure projects.

          -----------------
          What projects? Cosmodrome "Vostochny", which is being built with kicks and even the payment of wages to builders is not controlled?
        4. -1
          1 August 2015 01: 32
          you write directly from the Kremlin ?? we will raise ... enough from us ..
        5. Alf
          +1
          1 August 2015 20: 28
          If we stupidly raise pensions and salaries this will lead to inflation

          If we raise salaries and pensions, then people will go to shops and start spending this money there. As a result, manufacturers of goods and services will begin to work. Is it bad ?
    3. +46
      31 July 2015 14: 54
      Dear Comrade Putin.
      Try to refute at least ONE paragraph of the article before declaring Delyagin "clickers".
      Ali has nothing to say in response, except for slogans?

      About "we will not die in any way". Previously, no one spoke about "dying".
      While the ruling liberals in the country were choking in the flows of petrodollars, everything was apparently normal. Externally.
      Delyagin correctly said: the problems did not start today and not yesterday.
      They are caused in general by ALL the domestic and economic policies of the state in particular.
      As the flows of petrodollars began to dry up, so the problems were revealed. Instantly. And squared.
      And NOTHING is done to solve them.
      The situation is only getting worse.
      That's what Delyagin says.

      By the way, the publication time of the article is 14:39 Moscow time, and your "incriminating" commentary - 14:40.
      In a minute, did you manage to read such an article and draw conclusions about it yourself and its author?
      1. -5
        31 July 2015 15: 16
        Try to refute at least ONE paragraph of the article before declaring Delyagin "clickers".
        Ali has nothing to say in response, except for slogans?

        Dear Koloradovatnik. To begin with, I would like you to read in a very respected liberal press for example (please pay attention to the dates http://t.rbc.ru/tyumen/freenews/559296789a794751dc83c768
        By the way, this article was not published today, but 26 on the website time and money http://www.e-vid.ru/index-m-192-p-63-article-40301.htm. So it was time to get acquainted.
        Very interesting article. How Vladimir Putin influences economic decision-making.
        2015.07.30/XNUMX/XNUMX, Kommersant (by the way, a very illiberal newspaper)
        The economy for him is that for you and me the current toilet bowl.
        This is Delyagin about Putin. http://delyagin.ru/articles/87714-v-rossii-umirayut-deti-s-diagnozom-nekhvatka-b
        yudzhetnykh-sredstv.html (as I understand it, this is his personal site)
        Well, it’s certainly not the Liberal Manages the Institute of Globalization Problems - the Institute actively supported Misha 2%
        1. +6
          31 July 2015 16: 56
          Quote: Putin
          Very interesting article. How Vladimir Putin influences economic decision-making.

          -------------------------
          How does it affect? No way ... Domestic policy is the business of the Government and Mr. Medvedev ... And the Government has a full bouquet of "guardians of the state" ... I will not even read the links, because in his interviews Putin is very sorry for the economic situation .. ...
          1. +20
            31 July 2015 17: 04
            Quote: Altona
            Quote: Putin
            Very interesting article. How Vladimir Putin influences economic decision-making.
            -------------------------
            How does he influence? No way.
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      2. +4
        31 July 2015 15: 17
        I completely agree! The Liberast cabinet (excluding Shoigu and others without economy!) Must answer with his head (along with his head)!
        1. +10
          31 July 2015 18: 52
          Hello, you believe in Shoigu. Mr. Shoigu at one time did not sickly cash in on the destruction of ministries for civil defense and emergency situations (this was the case in the USSR) and emergencies emerged on the ruins .....
          1. -1
            2 August 2015 10: 23
            Shoigu is a member of the so-called "Family" organized crime group (Dyachenko, Yumashev, Voloshin, Berezovsky, Abramovich and the Semibarkin district). By the way, no one will remind me for what "merits" and "deeds" Shoigu received a star?
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      4. -9
        31 July 2015 15: 35
        This article is just a set of slogans; it is very far from the economy.
        Quote: Colorado
        Try to refute at least ONE paragraph of the article before declaring Delyagin "clickers".

        And what are the points in the article, except give money?
        To say that all liberals .... and what let's build, and not steal is an economic model?
        The author does not offer anything concrete in the article, and his conclusions are dubious.
      5. +2
        31 July 2015 15: 46
        Quote: Colorado
        Try to refute at least ONE paragraph of the article before declaring Delyagin "clickers".

        Refuted a hundred times already .. you don’t want to listen wink

        A counter question to you: name at least one of Delyagin's forecasts that really came true?

        You will not name. Because there are none. From the word "absolutely".

        Here he is, your hero .. although you, the campaign, do not care who, if only "against" laughing
        1. +14
          31 July 2015 16: 01
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          A counter question to you: name at least one of Delyagin's forecasts that really came true?

          What is Putin’s one forecast (in the economy) —which really came true?
          1. -6
            31 July 2015 16: 28
            Quote: atalef
            What is Putin’s one forecast (in the economy) —which really came true?

            This is with any fear? The conversation-about Delyagin, Putin, and then what ?? belay

            Atalef, I do not feed the trolls .. even talented tongue
            1. +12
              31 July 2015 16: 46
              Quote: Cat Man Null
              This is with any fear? The conversation-about Delyagin, Putin, and then what ??

              Sorry, Medvedev’s forecast, damn it, how did I mention it myself, and even in the bust ...
              Damn, damn it, damn it,
              Already on the tongue I tapped myself

              Quote: Cat Man Null
              Atalef, I do not feed the trolls .. even talented

              Well, I'm self-sufficient hi
              1. -12
                31 July 2015 16: 51
                Quote: atalef
                Sorry, Medvedev forecast

                Fak!

                Quote: Cat Man Null
                Talk - about Delyagin

                lol

                PS: atalef, and if an elephant hits a whale - who will pick whom? (from)
                1. +4
                  31 July 2015 17: 05
                  Quote: Cat Man Null
                  PS: atalef, and if an elephant hits a whale - who will pick whom?

                  How many wolves do not feed, but the elephant is thicker hi
                  1. -2
                    1 August 2015 04: 58
                    atalef


                    .... the dog barks ..... and the caravan is coming! drinks
              2. 0
                2 August 2015 11: 28
                Well done, respect, witty.
            2. +8
              31 July 2015 17: 00
              Quote: Cat Man Null
              This is with any fear? The conversation-about Delyagin, Putin, and then what ??

              -----------------
              Yes, nothing to do with it, only now I still think about Portugal’s GDP per capita, I think Putin’s plan (apparently hemp), and other significant things proclaimed in 2006-2008 ...
              1. -5
                31 July 2015 17: 15
                Quote: Altona
                Yes, nothing to do with, only now I still think about Portugal's per capita GDP

                and shout from the gallery
                - Well, give me the details. hi
            3. -4
              1 August 2015 04: 57
              They have anyway ......... Putin is to blame. Such a little girl, and for another they don’t give candy wrappers!
          2. -5
            1 August 2015 04: 56
            atalef
            What is Putin’s one forecast (in the economy) —which really came true?


            Yes, without a market .....
            1. The airbag (reserve fund) created by us will not allow us to destroy the country overnight.
            2. The development of the grain and meat cluster in Russia will not allow partners to dictate terms and scare us with the food embargo.
            ....... enough?
            1. +2
              1 August 2015 18: 09
              Here's another...
              3. Russian Olympians at the Olympics in Sochi will show good results.
              4. Our improved ballistic missiles will not allow our partners to escape retaliation in a nuclear attack on our country.
              .....still?
              1. +2
                2 August 2015 00: 29
                Quote: EGOrkka
                .....still?
                Copies of Ineta ..
                Google on YouTube "Putin was outraged by the prices of housing and communal services", you will find a video containing his indignations for 12 years. The price of these indignations is 0, nothing changes. It will be like with gasoline prices)))))))) .... .......
                1999 Putin: “It is impossible for any sensible person to explain why, in our oil-producing country, the prices for gasoline rose 1,5 times in a year,” Prime Minister Putin said at a meeting of the Cabinet of Ministers.
                2001 Putin: We have to go for real gas prices
                About the same in the States. The cost of gasoline is three times more expensive than ours ... That's why we have gathered today with you in order to discuss this topic and work out a clear timetable for moving in the right direction. [Here he is - the same clever maneuver!]
                2005 Putin is dissatisfied with rising gasoline prices. The ministers reported the head of state on the state of the country's economy. One of the hot topics is the increase in fuel prices. A. Zhukov told the president that at the next meeting the government will consider amendments to this year’s budget. First of all, these amendments are connected with the rise in price on the fuel market.
                2006 It is necessary to react promptly and monitor the rise in gasoline prices, Putin believes: “As for real prices, they are really high. And for oil products domestically, they grew by more than 17 percent over the entire year. Very high growth ... The government should ... promptly react and still influence pricing.
                2007 Putin wants to reduce the excise tax on high-quality gasoline. The excise rate on high-quality gasoline should be reduced, said Russian President Vladimir Putin. Work should continue on reforming the excise system.
                2008 Putin promised to deal with high gasoline prices. Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has promised that the government will do everything possible to reduce the prices of petroleum products and gasoline.
                2009 Putin demanded that gasoline prices be returned to the level of 2008 of the year. Fuel and lubricant suppliers should return to the 08 price level and even lower them a little lower.
                2010 Putin believes that gasoline prices in Russia are too high. “I believe that gasoline prices in Russia are too high. We are trying to fight this.
                2011 (February) Putin became interested in gas prices
                “I am instructing the FAS to immediately begin an antitrust investigation on any facts of overpricing fuel prices,” the head of government said on February 9.
                Putin promised to completely abolish the transport tax with an increase in the excise tax on gasoline. The government of the Russian Federation is considering the issue of abolishing transport tax with an increase in the excise tax on fuel, Prime Minister Putin said on the eve.
                (December) Putin: We have not abolished the transport tax, but excise taxes on gasoline will be raised. “Transport tax was not abolished at the request of working governors” ..
                2012 This year, the time to deal with gasoline prices has not come yet. The government agreed to freeze energy prices exactly before the presidential elections. Well, and then the oilmen will come off properly, closer to summer. Then the time will come for the lonely warrior to set foot again on the warpath.
            2. Alf
              +1
              1 August 2015 20: 38
              Quote: EGOrkka
              The development of the grain and meat cluster in Russia will not allow partners to dictate terms and scare us with the food embargo.
              ....... enough?

              Last year, the grain harvest was record high, and the price of bread for some reason rose.
          3. 0
            1 August 2015 09: 42
            Quote: atalef
            What is Putin’s one forecast (in the economy) —which really came true?

            you wait, two more years have not passed :-)
      6. -2
        31 July 2015 15: 54
        And as in a country in which everything is robbed and destroyed, more than 300 plants and factories are opened annually.
        1. +10
          31 July 2015 16: 00
          Quote: Vadim237
          And as in a country in which everything is robbed and destroyed, more than 300 plants and factories are opened annually.

          No way, sorry, your numbers don't say anything
          1 What are the plants and factories?
          2. Amount of investment?
          3 Number of employees?
          NOW WRITE, HOW MUCH IN THIS TIME
          1 CLOSED
          2 GONE INVESTMENT
          3 fired workers
          Then add and ... get a more - less real figure hi
          and the answer to the question
          How is the country?
          1. +8
            31 July 2015 16: 29
            And how. January 2014:
            1. 21 January - In the city of Naberezhnye Chelny (Tatarstan), a new production building of the joint venture KAMAZ and the German concern Zahnrad Fabrik - TF KAMA was opened.

            Investments: more than 1 billion rubles.
            2. January 22 - The international company Baker Hughes opened a plant for the production of oil-immersion cable in Tyumen
            Investments: 2 billion rubles.
            3. 22 January - Construction of Hitachi Construction Machinery Eurasia Manufacturing plant completed in Tver, in the Raslovo industrial park.
            Power: 2000 hydraulic excavators per year.
            Investments: 2 billion rubles.
            4. 29 January - The first start-up complex of the third stage of the Antipinsky oil refinery is opened in Tyumen
            Capacity: 7,5 million tonnes of refined oil per year.

            February 2014 of the year:
            1. 4 February - The plant Sukhodol-Spetstyazhmash opened its plant in the Alexinsky district of the Tula region.
            Capacity: 40 thousand products per year.
            Investments: 7 billion rubles.
            2. 4 February - The Kemerovo House-Building Plant (part of the SDS Group) opened a large-panel housing plant.
            Capacity: 200 thousand m² of reinforced concrete panels per year.
            Investments: 3 billion rubles.
            3. February 11 - The first industrial membrane plant for the separation of helium from natural gas produced by Grasys NPK was accepted and tested in the Irkutsk region.
            4. 12 February - The Caspian float glass plant began operations in the Kumtorklalinsky district of Dagestan.
            Capacity: 600 tons per day.
            Investments: 10,5 billion rubles.
            5. 12 February - In the city of Dzerzhinsk (Nizhny Novgorod region) the launch of the Danieli Volga plant for the production of metallurgical equipment took place.
            Investments: 1,5 billion rubles.
            6. 14 February - A factory for the production of polymer geogrids of the British company TENSAR was opened in St. Petersburg.
            Capacity: 3 thousand tons per year.
            Investments: 1,5 billion rubles.
            7. 14 February - In the city of Sarov (Nizhny Novgorod region), a new production of pipeline fittings for thermal and nuclear power plants was opened.
            8. 25. February - ABH Miratorg launched a high-tech poultry processing complex in the Bryansk region.
            Investments: 8,5 billion rubles.
            9. 26 February - A plant of the Norwegian paint and varnish company Jotun was opened in the Tosnensky district of the Leningrad region, in the Fedorovsk industrial park.
            Capacity: 12 million liters of paints and 3,6 thousand tons of powder coatings per year.
            Investments: 1,7 billion rubles.
            10. 26 February - A cheese production plant has been opened in the Kalacheevsky district of the Voronezh Region.
            1. -2
              31 July 2015 16: 54
              Quote: Vadim237
              And how. January 2014:

              And you take for the year since last March hi
              Quote: Vadim237
              February 26 - A cheese factory was opened in the Kalacheevsky district of the Voronezh region.

              I liked it, but how many people work there?
            2. +11
              31 July 2015 18: 52
              Quote: Vadim237
              3. 22 January - Construction of Hitachi Construction Machinery Eurasia Manufacturing plant completed in Tver, in the Raslovo industrial park.
              Power: 2000 hydraulic excavators per year.
              Investments: 2 billion rubles.

              --------------------
              2 billion rubles is a covered workshop on a metal frame with drainage, in fact it is a screwdriver assembly of excavators from SKD assemblies, no machines for you there ... And the cherry on the cake: who needs these 2000 excavators a year if the pipeline contracts have not been signed ? By the way, in Chelyabinsk there is a Siemens plant for the production of large-diameter pipes ... Again the question of the demand for these pipes in the absence of contracts ...
            3. +4
              31 July 2015 20: 43
              And it is possible to announce the estimated salary in these industries, so that you know who the investment is in.
              1. 0
                1 August 2015 05: 04
                prostofily
                in whom is the investment


                In someone it is in the family (son, daughter, wife). And when in the production of machine tools, equipment, real estate ....
          2. +3
            31 July 2015 16: 30
            To be continued. Capacity: 6,5 thousand tons of cheese per year.
            Investments: 800 mln. Rub.
            11. 28 February - A new production complex of LEPSE OJSC was opened in Kirov (part of Uralvagonzavod Research and Production Corporation OJSC).

            March 2014 of the year:
            1. 1 March - The Priangarsky timber processing complex was put into commercial operation in the Kezhemsky district of the Krasnoyarsk Territory.
            Capacity: 130 thousand m³ of sawn timber per year.
            Investments: 1,5 billion rubles.
            2. 3 March - The construction of a new body shop has been completed at the Kaluga plant of the Volkswagen Group Rus.
            Investments: 3,5 billion rubles.
            3. 3 March - In Ulan-Ude, at the plant of OJSC “Milk of Buryatia”, a new workshop for the bottling of ultra-pasteurized milk was opened.
            Power: 8 tons of products per hour.
            Investments: 450 mln. Rub.
            4. March 11 - A joint Belgian-Russian venture Frisomat Arsenal ST opened in the Kardymovsky district of the Smolensk region.
            5. 12 March - A plant for the production of ceramic and facing bricks, Kuznetskaya Building Company LLC, was opened in the town of Sursk, Penza Region.
            Capacity: 30 million bricks per year.
            Investments: 400 mln. Rub.
            6. March 13 - The first products of Zarechnoye meat-processing complex were produced in the Ramonsky district of the Voronezh region.
            Capacity: 21 thousand tons per year.
            Investments: 2,1 billion rubles.
            7. March 14 - OJSC Severalmaz, a subsidiary of ALROSA, put into operation the processing plant No. 2 at the Lomonosov GOK in the Arkhangelsk Region.
            Capacity: 3 million tonnes of ore per year.
            Investments: 6 billion rubles.
            8. 14 March - The opening of a plant for the production of agricultural machinery by the Norwegian company Kverneland Group was held in Lipetsk.
            Investments: 450 mln. Rub.
            9. 19 March - The berries of Karelia in Kostomuksha have launched freeze-drying of natural raw materials.
            Capacity: 180 tons of sublimate per year.
            Investments: 600 mln. Rub.
            10. 20 March - In Engels, the Saratov region, a new technological line for the production of sleepers was launched at the ZHBI plant No. 6 - a branch of JSC BET.
            Capacity: 500 thous. W / b sleepers per year.
            Investments: 766 mln. Rub.
            11. 20 March - Miratorg Agro-Industrial Holding has launched a feed mill in the Vygonichsky district of the Bryansk region.
            Capacity: 360 thousand tons per year.
            Investments: 2,2 billion rubles.
            12. March 21 - In the town of Zlatoust, Chelyabinsk region, at OJSC Zlatmash, the first aluminum profile production in the region has been launched.
            Capacity: 1 thous. Tons of profile per month.
            Investments: 650 mln. Rub.
            13. 21 March - A new production complex of Gipsopolimer OJSC has been opened in Perm.
            Capacity: 450 tons per day.
            1. +14
              31 July 2015 17: 17
              And our state has a relationship with this project.
              Lending production at 4-6% to build state-owned enterprises, helping farmers with loans at 1-2%, etc. This is nothing but a dumb boltology
              1. -9
                31 July 2015 17: 26
                The most that there is a direct relationship.
                1. +15
                  31 July 2015 18: 09
                  The state has not spent a dime on these projects.
                  You just stupidly do not understand. The state only helps banks and they give loans at 30-50%, this is called robbery.
                  1. -7
                    31 July 2015 18: 31
                    In this situation, you need to prematurely close the loan.
                    1. Alf
                      0
                      1 August 2015 20: 42
                      Quote: Vadim237
                      In this situation, you need to prematurely close the loan.

                      And kick everyone out.
                  2. -1
                    1 August 2015 05: 06
                    nogBogHuk
                    give loans at 30-50%


                    So people explains, the difference is dating the state!
                2. 0
                  1 August 2015 22: 26
                  Vadim237 (1) RU Yesterday, 17:26 ↑
                  The most that there is a direct relationship.
                  only for some reason, in our company and Russian Railways, diaries write a statement for 1-2 days without saving salaries every month.
            2. +7
              31 July 2015 18: 48
              Quote: Vadim237
              2. 3 March - The construction of a new body shop has been completed at the Kaluga plant of the Volkswagen Group Rus.
              Investments: 3,5 billion rubles.

              ------------------------
              3,5 billion rubles is a penny, a body factory does not require a large number of workers, it is automated ... And a cherry on the cake: what profit will it make if in six months of 2015 compared to 2014, demand for cars fell by 45%? Why am I writing because we have built a car-building plant with a capacity of 5000 cars a year on the site of a car repair, an investment of 35 billion rubles, the plant is standing, workers are cutting grass on the territory ...
            3. +6
              31 July 2015 18: 58
              Ha ha ha Tell me please. and how does a cheese factory affect the development of high value added products ??????. And that would be clear. yes cheese production. this is the processing of raw materials. indisputably. But what is the added value when processing a similar level ??? 7
            4. +2
              31 July 2015 18: 58
              Quote: Vadim237
              3. 3 March - In Ulan-Ude, at the plant of OJSC “Milk of Buryatia”, a new workshop for the bottling of ultra-pasteurized milk was opened.
              Power: 8 tons of products per hour.
              Investments: 450 mln. Rub.

              ------------------------
              Aha ... First, they kill all the microflora in milk in the most perfect way so that it does not turn sour, and then make sour cream out of it with artificial thickeners ... A good product for the greater profit of retailers ...
              1. +14
                31 July 2015 23: 43
                Altona - I'm from Ulan-Ude, the factory was opened magnificently, yes ... here's more milk where to find "at 8 tons per hour ..." with this, somehow, not everything is okay - it is not profitable to keep a cattle in Buryatia - we have e-mail ... energy is five times more expensive than that of its neighbors, Irkutyan - well, what kind of new production will be built here? Unless our local deputy prime minister, a fool, Chepik, who in all seriousness gave the order to calculate the economic feasibility of building a sugar (!!!) plant in Buryatia ... somehow sugar beets do not want to grow here, but to the nearest ports, that in one direction, that in the other - 5000 km ... of course, how can you not build a sugar plant - all the "conditions" are ... wassat ... I don't know, maybe somewhere, "in another life" handsome factories are being built every day and the economy is flourishing ... only in our Republic the only really industrial enterprise remains - an aircraft factory (helicopters), and so - everything died, even a confectionery company and pasta production is bent ... but what's the pasta ... - the largest producer of vodka - grunted! - how ... request
                And Vadim 237 - I advise you not to go into a roll-call rewriting of new buildings, but just look at the OFFICIAL statistics about the decline in industrial production in the country and it will become clear why to look line by line - see TOTAL right away: belay
                1. +5
                  1 August 2015 03: 57
                  I wrote a comment I look a fellow countryman answers exactly my plus to you hi
                  what’s interesting, I didn’t see your comment yesterday, and only now I’ve got wonderful things about your modera ..
                  but in general the article how people hooked on such a discussion for a long time has not happened - it means that Delyagin is right ...
                2. +1
                  1 August 2015 05: 11
                  Goga101
                  the largest producer of vodka - grunted! - how ..


                  I sympathize, but the vodka in the shops did not decrease ...
                3. -2
                  1 August 2015 10: 20
                  I do not know where it falls - my production is flourishing and this is the main thing for me.
              2. +3
                1 August 2015 03: 55
                I laugh, I live in Ulan Ude. People say they put one machine in the corner and continue to drive I get along that no one takes it firstly secondly they don’t have so much milk .. in the neighborhood they almost collect with cans, they just gave the state they laundered them and probably so with half the projects about which you write ...
            5. MrK
              +12
              1 August 2015 00: 11
              I will show Vadim what has been destroyed by effective managers:
              Factory "Red Proletariat" (Moscow) (born in 1857 - killed in 2010);
              Izhevsk Motorcycle Plant (born in 1928 - killed in 2009);
              Irbit Motorcycle Plant (Ural) (born in 1941 - in a coma);
              Pavlovsk Tool Plant (born in 1820 - killed in 2011);
              Lipetsk Tractor Plant (born in 1943 - killed in 2009);
              Altai Tractor Plant (Rubtsovsk) (born in 1942 - killed in 2010);
              Shipbuilding Plant (Petrozavodsk) (born in 1939 - killed in 2010);
              Shipyard (Vladivostok) (born in 1895 - killed in 2009);
              Radio plant "Vega" (Berdsk) (born in 1946 - killed in 1999);
              Saratov Aviation Plant (born in 1931– killed in 2010);
              Omsk Transport Engineering Plant (born in 1896 - killed in 2009);
              Chelyabinsk watch factory "Lightning" (born in 1947 - killed in 2009);
              Uglich watch factory "The Seagull" (born in 1938 - killed in 2009);
              The second Moscow watch factory "Glory" (born in 1924 - killed in 2006);
              Chistopol watch factory “Vostok” (born in 1941– killed in 2010);
              Plant "Stankomash" (Chelyabinsk) (born in 1935 - killed in 2009);
              Ryazan Machine Tool Plant (born in 1949 - killed in 2008);
              Kronstadt Marine Plant (born in 1858 - killed in 2005);
              Kuzbasselement Plant (born in 1942 - killed in 2008);
              Irkutsk Radio Plant (born in 1945 - killed in 2007);
              Precision casting plant "Centrolit" (Lipetsk) (born in 1963 - killed in 2009);
              Tomsk Instrument Plant (born in 1961 - killed in 2007);
              Sivinit Plant (Krasnoyarsk) (born in 1970 - killed in 2004);
              Krasnoyarsk TV Factory (born in 1952 - killed in 2003);
              Oryol plant managing computers (born in 1968 - killed in 2006);
              Orenburg Hardware Plant (born in 1943 - killed in 2009);
              Khabarovsk factory "EVGO" (born in 2000 - killed in 2009);
              Ulyanovsk Radio Tube Plant (born in 1959 - killed in 2003);
              Sibelektrostal Plant (Krasnoyarsk) (born in 1952 - killed in 2008);
              Orenburg Silk Fabric Combine (born in 1972 - killed in 2004);
              Barysh factory them. Gladysheva (born in 1825 - killed in 2005);
              Flax Association them. Zvorykina (Kostroma) (born in 1939 - killed in 2011);
              Far Eastern Radio Plant (born in 1993 - killed in 2009);
              Bicycle factory (Yoshkar-Ola) (born in 1950 - killed in 2006);
              Bicycle plant (Nizhny Novgorod) (born in 1940 - killed in 2007);
              Perm Bicycle Plant (born in 1939 - killed in 2006);
              Baltic Plant (born in 1856 - killed in 2011);
              Sibtyazhmash Plant (Krasnoyarsk) (born in 1941 - killed in 2011);
              Khimprom Plant (Volgograd) (born in 1931 - killed in 2010);
              Irkutsk driveshaft plant (born in 1974 - killed in 2004);
              Izhmash Plant (Izhevsk) (born in 1807 - killed in 2012) ...
              ... and even more than 70 of thousands (!) of plants and factories that perished in an unequal battle with the "market" invaders.
              1. +7
                1 August 2015 00: 23
                mrARK - Colleague, but "Vadim" does not need to prove anything, he knows everything himself well, it is enough to type "RF industrial production" in Yandex and that's it - see the graph, which looks exactly like the aviators' anthem ... just the opposite: " lower and lower and lower ... ". And Vadim ... well, that Vadim is working out the guy, how can his piece of bread, that's why arguing with him - only time to waste ... ...
              2. +1
                1 August 2015 00: 23
                Quote: mrark
                .and more than 70 thousand (!) factories and factories that died in an unequal battle with the "market" invaders.

              3. -3
                1 August 2015 00: 46
                Omsk transport engineering plant killed? Izhmash? Kronstadt Marine Plant?
                Do you dream of enemies?
              4. +13
                1 August 2015 01: 59
                Quote: mrark
                Oryol plant managing computers (born in 1968 - killed in 2006);

                I'm from Orel. Killed the loader plant, the Himmash plant (rocket engines), zd them. Medvedev (hero of the civil war, defense industry), at the site of the watch plant, the Atoll shopping and entertainment center, Severstal bought the steel-rolling plant, it breathes in vain, everything is on lease. The plant "Khimtekstilmash" practically does not exist, the plant "Diffuser" produced CHIPs, now, it seems, traffic lights.
                The "Remstanok" was destroyed, the remains were taken out to a small private workshop, in its place - a special vehicle base, garbage collection, watering roads, etc., belonged to the ex-mayor. There is no more the plant "MOIZ" with unique equipment, including equipment for names, where they baked pies and rolls, now I don't know. The airport was killed. The list is long, I will not continue.
                But at a record pace, churches, chapels and shopping centers are being built.
                In power - hucksters.
              5. 0
                1 August 2015 02: 40
                Baltic Plant (born in 1856 - killed in 2011)


                Nuclear-powered icebreaker "Arktika" - Russian nuclear-powered icebreaker of class LK-60YA (project 22220). It is the lead ship of the project.
                The icebreaker was laid down on November 5, 2013; it is planned for commissioning in 2018.


                The atomic icebreaker Sibir is the Russian nuclear icebreaker of the LK-60YA class (project 22220).
                The icebreaker was laid down on May 26, 2015, it is planned for commissioning in 2019.


                the plant "at death" has already built and handed over diesel icebreakers ...
                they killed him well).
                this is the plant that made the feed for the Mistral, this is the disadvantage that is building the world's first floating nuclear power plant.

                and so you can probably check every item from this sketch.
                how can one blatantly lie?
                1. +3
                  1 August 2015 03: 36
                  Quote: Gleb
                  how can one blatantly lie?
                  And who is lying?

                  Vedomosti - The Baltic Plant will go bankrupt to everyone’s satisfaction
                  http://www.vedomosti.ru/business/articles/2011/12/05/shema_kozaka
                  Prime Minister Vladimir Putin decided the fate of the Baltic plant: it will go bankrupt, and staff will move to the new USC structure, which the government will provide with orders

                  01.11.2012/XNUMX/XNUMX bankruptcy proceedings were introduced
                  http://law-soft.ru/7830001910

                  Another thing is that they dragged him.

                  14.03.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX Kommersant-Gazeta - Baltzavod is no longer bankrupt
                  http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2145438
                  The court unexpectedly overturned the decision to declare bankrupt the Baltic Shipyard controlled by the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC). Sberbank, the Federal Tax Service (FTS) and the United Industrial Corporation (OPK) of Sergei Pugachev, which previously owned the shipyard, asked the court about this. According to Kommersant's sources, the cancellation of bankruptcy proceedings "will only complicate the bankruptcy scheme" which USC has agreed with the government to clear the shipyard of the debt burden. On the other hand, according to one of the versions, the situation may be beneficial to the defense industry.
                  1. -3
                    1 August 2015 03: 52
                    well, don’t you see who is lying? his plant was killed in 11, but in a strange way he continues to produce products and signs contracts.
                    Another thing is that pulled him
                    the fact is that this is not called "killed", but quite another matter.
                    and tomorrow in a new article they will discuss new machine guns and shells produced on the killed Izhmash.
                    So many TVs are produced in the country, there are more manufacturers than the Soviet era, but give them Krasnoyarsk tubes.
                    I was going to buy an Italian or a German washing machine, huh ... look, the same Indesit is being manufactured in Lipetsk, and Bosch is in St. Petersburg ... and they feel sorry for Malyutka, and they don’t care that instead of one factory there were five.
                    why did the patriots hasten to exchange Soviet TV sets Electron for Philips and Sonya? you look and the lamp factories would still operate. yes, Putin ...
                    1. +4
                      1 August 2015 05: 08
                      Quote: Gleb
                      But can’t you see who is lying?
                      It’s not visible - it’s clear who has infa outdated (in general, it’s a miracle that the plant was pulled out at the last stage of bankruptcy, despite the fact that the initiation of the process in almost half the cases means the finish)

                      The problem is that there are no open statistics, and judging by the IPP and the ratio of GNP to GDP, things are very fig.

                      http://vz.ru/infographics/2015/7/21/757291.html

                      and tomorrow in a new article they will discuss new machine guns and shells produced on the killed Izhmash.
                      http://vz.ru/news/2015/7/31/758830.print.html
                      July 31, 2015 According to the representative of the bankruptcy trustee, US sanctions will in fact not affect Izhmash in any way, since the concern does not conduct any business at all.
                      “Unas bankruptcy proceedings, bankruptcy proceedings, and our actions are already aimed at the liquidation of the enterprise. I think that sanctions will not affect us in any way, ”TASS reports the source. He also said that the liquidation of the concern is planned to be completed by the end of the year.

                      give them tube
                      Who?

                      the same Indesit in Lipetsk is produced
                      Apparently going to - the company is still Italian, technology and components, too (also with the rest - this is targeted globalization and the world division of labor, where the Russian Federation has the status of a gas station and a sales market).

                      why did the patriots hasten to exchange Soviet TV sets Electron for Philips and Sonya? you look and the lamp factories would still operate. yes, Putin ...
                      Including Putin (you need to develop your production, but this is not; the state is de jure social, and the level of social guarantees is scanty)
                      1. -1
                        1 August 2015 05: 55
                        American sanctions will in fact have no effect on Izhmash, since the concern now does not conduct any business at all
                        everything is right because NPO Izhmash was renamed into OJSC Concern Kalashnikov. The Concern is the parent company of the holding GK Rostec -with preservation of rights. Other enterprises are included in the concern. so there is no name Izhmash, and as the weapon was produced, it will be so.
                      2. +4
                        1 August 2015 13: 31
                        Quote: Gleb
                        everything is right because NPO Izhmash was renamed into OJSC Concern Kalashnikov. The Concern is the parent company of the holding GK Rostec -with preservation of rights. Other enterprises are included in the concern. so there is no name Izhmash, and as the weapon was produced, it will be so.
                        If one store closes next to you and another opens immediately, it will be a completely different store.

                        The business entity "Izhmash" has actually ceased to exist - its property will be transferred to another business entity, which will change something and continue to work with this property.

                        But this will be a completely different enterprise, which at some Sdelanunas will add the next statistics of the next three hundred open enterprises.

                        http://tass.ru/ekonomika/2155825
                        In fact, this will not affect the enterprise, because no economic activitywe have bankruptcy proceedings, Bankruptcy proceedings, and our actions are already directed on liquidation of an enterprise... I think that the sanctions will not affect us in any way, "said the representative of the liquidator.

                        LIQUIDATION OF THE COMPANY
                        - termination of the enterprise as a legal entity with the transfer or sale of property and the repayment of debts in the prescribed manner due to the expiration of the period for which it was created, by decision of the general meeting, a higher authority (for state enterprises) or by decision of the court. It is customary to distinguish between voluntary liquidation carried out by a liquidation commission appointed by a liquidation organization and forced liquidation carried out by a commission appointed by a court or state body in charge of the liquidated organization. The liquidation commission evaluates and sells property, takes measures to collect receivables and satisfy claims of creditors. The commission sends a statement to the bank to terminate operations on the accounts of the company being liquidated without the consent of the company. The value of the property remaining after the repayment of all debts and satisfaction of the creditors is used to compensate for the investments of the owners of the liquidated company or is used for other purposes provided for by its charter. The main reasons for the liquidation of the enterprise: the exhaustion of the goals and objectives for which the organization was created, the organization’s activities going beyond its charter and laws, in the event of bankruptcy, in the absence of any resource, without which the activities cannot be carried out. (Encyclopedic Dictionary of Economics and Law)
                    2. +4
                      1 August 2015 09: 49
                      Quote: Gleb
                      So many TVs are produced in the country, there are more manufacturers than the Soviet era, but give them Krasnoyarsk tubes.

                      And what's inside of these current TVs, whose filling, I suppose, is from Zelenograd? :-)
                      1. -2
                        1 August 2015 10: 22
                        would you be the only one to take this stuffing? Well, there’s Duck Rubin in Voronezh (where domestic components are present), but wherever you look, Samsung stands on the bedside tables and yes. (Do you probably have a domestic stuffing at home?)
                        this is how the majority will buy a Moscow-assembled Renoshka, or a St. Petersburg Toyota, than a domestic VAZ, which has not been "killed" yet. or even a natural German, or a Jap and all the patriotism and talk about "unkilled" Avtovaz disappear.
                      2. +1
                        1 August 2015 15: 57
                        Quote: Gleb
                        probably at your place with domestic filling?

                        No, but I didn’t even talk about the release of domestic TVs
                      3. +2
                        1 August 2015 18: 05
                        Listen, today I specially drew attention (although not news) while walking around the mini-market in the area. I went up to the grannies sitting on stools and selling vegetables. I asked why tomatoes-120-130 were a handful-looking kilo (did not hang) from the words.
                        and in the morning she didn’t sell that much according to her. she doesn’t reduce the price.
                        I personally go from principle to grannies. just to help. for me, fifty dollars does not play a role.
                        and so, not finding dill (or I’ve already left) I went to the vegetable department in a minimarket. queue, naturally, the queue. The most expensive tomatoes are 65 but there are also 40. I know what kind of tomatoes they are 40, they are naturally rubber, they are even rubber it is inconvenient to cut with a sharpened knife. And after all they take. These tomatoes are taken. Which the Chinese grew up, or at worst the Uzbeks.
                        tell me, how can grandmother not "kill" her plant? she hunchbacks from spring to autumn and cannot reduce the price. Well, in fact, give you a choice, (and to me, what really) you are outbid and a lower price tag get enough, but will not start working all summer, so that later with problems to sell your products losing on discounts? and do not care about the common people who have no money, because you yourself need to survive.
                        and the same with garlic, cucumbers, potatoes ...
                        this is an example of how a person refuses normal, healthy, our food for the sake of Chinese, stuffed and grown incomprehensibly ... just because of the price, and then complains here that grandmother killed the agro-factory or KTO_TO went bankrupt.
                        how can one not kill an agricultural company, or not be like those who put poison into products for growth
                  2. +1
                    1 August 2015 09: 48
                    Quote: Uncle Joe
                    The United Industrial Corporation (OPK) of Sergey Pugachev, which used to own a shipyard.

                    This is now in London, curious
              6. +1
                1 August 2015 14: 57
                You still need to check your list - no one killed Omsk Transmash, it works quite fine, here is its website http://transmash-omsk.ru/
              7. -2
                1 August 2015 15: 37
                The Irbit motorcycle factory is working, this year it is going to make 2000 motorcycles, a good coma. The Pavlovsk Tool Plant is operating, the Centrolit Precision Casting Plant has been renamed, it is working, Izhmash is working, it will soon enter the Kalashnikov concern - from this list it is really a pity watch companies and especially the VEGA factory.
              8. +2
                1 August 2015 21: 28
                Quote: mrark
                I will show Vadim what has been destroyed by effective managers:

                Quote: mrark
                Altai Tractor Plant (Rubtsovsk) (born in 1942 - killed in 2010);

                Alttrak has long rested in the Bose ... Of the latest "achievements" - the Barnaul Hardware and Mechanical Plant was demolished to the devil's grandmother. They are building another shopping center in its place (Auchan or what?). For half a year, huge factory buildings were crushing Gaster and the crisis is not a hindrance! Now the last building is breaking down, the poor fellow is still holding on, our grandfathers and our fathers built it, but there is no such plant in the Russian Federation that would withstand the onslaught of "effective" managers and successful businessmen. And under the plant there was a large bomb shelter (in case of war, many lives could have been saved, but for loyal Putinites this is not an argument), they were going to make another "night light" (club) out of it.
                1. -2
                  1 August 2015 23: 36
                  Altai Tractor died due to the fact that no one bought these tractors, there was no market, therefore the plant disappeared and many others also - the USSR collapsed and huge plants were not needed and now to create huge plants you need to have a huge consumer base, and it’s constantly stable, otherwise production will not pay off - we switched to a market economy.
                  1. +2
                    2 August 2015 13: 00
                    Quote: Vadim237
                    Altai Tractor died due to the fact that no one bought these tractors, there was no market, therefore the plant disappeared and many others also - the USSR collapsed and huge plants were not needed and now to create huge plants you need to have a huge consumer base, and it’s constantly stable, otherwise production will not pay off - we switched to a market economy.

                    Citizen, I definitely like you! A striking representative of the category "Even ssy in the eyes ..." About 300 days on the site, during this time 3298 were made !!! comments! Almost 11 comments a day! EVERYDAY! OOPS, I recognized you - your mustache is unstuck! To write complete heresy with such equanimity! It is immediately evident that a person works tirelessly! Literally! My dear, the keyboard under you is just on fire! Slow down! Or did the crisis also affect people like you? No time to rest? How much does the owner pay for a comment now - 30 kopecks or 30 rubles?
                    1. -2
                      2 August 2015 18: 50
                      I’m my own boss, I solve all issues with orders and equipment purchase by phone, and during breaks, and I have a lot of them, I go to our favorite site, at one time I torn my back very cool and try not to sit at the computer, I always I carry myself, the crisis didn’t touch me at all, I have my own business and I do not write heresy.
          3. -1
            1 August 2015 05: 01
            atalef
            How is the country?


            ..... well, no way in the ruin!
          4. Alf
            +1
            1 August 2015 20: 40
            Quote: atalef
            No way, sorry, your numbers don't say anything
            1 What are the plants and factories?
            2. Amount of investment?
            3 Number of employees?
            NOW WRITE, HOW MUCH IN THIS TIME
            1 CLOSED
            2 GONE INVESTMENT
            3 fired workers
            Then add and ... get a more - less real figure
            and the answer to the question
            How is the country?

            And add who is the owner of these enterprises and where the profit goes.
        2. +7
          31 July 2015 16: 30
          Quote: Vadim237
          And as in a country in which everything is robbed and destroyed, more than 300 plants and factories are opened annually.
          I repeat once again - like this:

          The number of Russian companies that are declared bankrupt has been steadily increasing over the past few months, in 2014 it increased by almost 20% compared to the previous year - up to 14 thousand 514
          http://www.interfax.ru/business/424994

          The number of bankruptcies in the real sector of the economy is growing rapidly. According to an expert from the Center for Macroeconomic Analysis and Short-Range Forecasting Anastasia Mogilat, in 2014 the number of bankruptcies increased fivefold compared to what it was in 2007-2008. After the crisis of 2009 and before the crisis of 2014, annually about 800 legal entities became bankrupt.
          The majority of bankruptcies in Russia occur in manufacturing enterprises - their average share is about 60% of the total number of bankrupt legal entities in the real sector. In second place - agriculture and forestry (17%), in third - electricity (15%).
          http://www.arctic-tv.ru/news/analitika/v-2014-godu-kolichestvo-bankrotstv-vozros

          lo-pyatikratno-do-treti-vseh-bankrotstv --- v-pishevoy-otrasli
          1. +2
            31 July 2015 16: 36
            The fact that the company went bankrupt does not mean that it has closed, this is mainly due to the fact that the companies do not have a financial airbag and very often intentional bankruptcy takes place.
            1. -1
              31 July 2015 16: 56
              Quote: Vadim237
              Just because a company went bankrupt doesn't mean it’s closed,

              This is something new
              Quote: Vadim237
              this is mainly due to the fact that enterprises do not have a financial safety cushion and very often intentional bankruptcy takes place.

              those. no money, the bankrupt enterprise - but it did not close
              laughing
              1. -2
                31 July 2015 17: 13
                There is nothing new - bankrupt enterprises under external management - work continues, although at a loss.
              2. +4
                31 July 2015 18: 04
                Quote: atalef
                Quote: Vadim237So that the enterprise went bankrupt does not mean that it has closed, This is something new
                Well, it's like Ukraine-external management fool
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            2. +6
              31 July 2015 19: 19
              Quote: Vadim237
              The fact that the company went bankrupt does not mean that it has closed, this is mainly due to the fact that the companies do not have a financial airbag and very often intentional bankruptcy takes place.

              In Ukraine, they also say that most citizens will not even feel the default.
              It’s scary to even imagine why ...
            3. +4
              31 July 2015 19: 55
              A bit like with Ukraine - the state is bankrupt, but not closed.
              Quote: Vadim237
              Just because a company went bankrupt doesn't mean it’s closed,
            4. MrK
              +4
              1 August 2015 00: 19
              Vadim. In my city only this year two enterprises went bankrupt. In their place is the construction of housing for the "poorest".
              1. 0
                1 August 2015 10: 27
                If they went bankrupt, I must say thanks to the owners, along with an example of intentional bankruptcy.
                1. Alf
                  +1
                  1 August 2015 20: 53
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  If they went bankrupt, I must say thanks to the owners, along with an example of intentional bankruptcy.

                  And who made it possible for "effective owners" to do this? They probably did it under cover of night.
              2. Alf
                +2
                1 August 2015 20: 52
                Quote: mrark
                Vadim. In my city only this year two enterprises went bankrupt. In their place is the construction of housing for the "poorest".

                In Samara, a few years ago, the 4th bearing plant was closed, consider a plant manufacturing strategic products. Now there are business centers, shopping centers.
                Last year they said that the 9th bearing was jammed. Apparently, in the order of import substitution ...
                1. -1
                  2 August 2015 11: 16
                  And two years ago, I began to produce sliding bearings.
          2. -5
            31 July 2015 16: 42
            Considering that there are more than a million different enterprises in Russia, from the smallest to the largest, 14500 bankrupt is generally a meager compared to the total number, most of them will continue to work.
            1. +3
              31 July 2015 17: 36
              Quote: Vadim237
              The fact that the company went bankrupt does not mean that it has closed
              Divide by 2 - get an approximate percentage of enterprises that will definitely be closed.

              Bankruptcy proceedings, final report, the period from 24.07.2015 to 31.07.2015 - 124 enterprises.
              http://bankrot.fedresurs.ru/AuReportList.aspx

              Quote: Vadim237
              Considering that there are more than a million different enterprises in Russia, from the smallest to the largest, 14500 bankrupt is generally a meager compared to the total number, most of them will continue to work.
              1. -6
                31 July 2015 18: 02
                Are there no newer digits?
                1. +7
                  31 July 2015 18: 20
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  Are there no newer digits?
                  Did not come across.

                  And you did not see data on gross national product / income for, say, 2014?
            2. +8
              31 July 2015 19: 28
              ! 4500 bankrupts is multiplied by 200 = 2900000 jobs and what do you propose to these people to do? While we have a liberal state, we have nothing to shine. In one word we need "FORWARD BACK IN THE USSR."
              1964-1983 years in the USSR to slightly change the strategy and distortions in industry and agriculture.
            3. MrK
              +5
              1 August 2015 00: 22
              Vadim do not drive the blizzard. Throughout the USSR there were a bit more 50 000 real enterprises. Or three men casting blocks of expanded clay - is it the same factory?
              1. -4
                1 August 2015 10: 29
                Three men casting blocks of expanded clay - this is also production, if not cool.
            4. +1
              1 August 2015 21: 28
              Quote: Vadim237
              14500 bankrupt is a minuscule

              Especially if you and your loved ones did not work at these enterprises. Just think, what a trifle - they simply did not fit into the market.
              Somewhere I already heard something like that ...
              Is not Chubais?
              1. -1
                1 August 2015 23: 41
                Most of these bankrupts continue to work. And the fact that these enterprises did not create financial airbags in case of a crisis is already the problem of their owners.
        3. +2
          31 July 2015 17: 28
          Quote: Vadim237
          And as in a country in which everything is robbed and destroyed, more than 300 plants and factories are opened annually.

          Allow the list ??
          1. -2
            31 July 2015 17: 38
            Quote: Novel 11
            Allow the list ??

            1. +3
              31 July 2015 19: 22
              Quote: atalef
              Quote: Novel 11
              Allow the list ??


              "Sand quarry - ..." two pieces. lol
          2. +1
            31 July 2015 17: 41
            Look here on the site for a list - as a separate publication.
            1. +3
              31 July 2015 19: 51
              Quote: Vadim237
              Look here on the site for a list - as a separate publication.

              Just last year’s data is not interesting, especially until March, when the reunion with the Crimea took place. It is interesting to look at the story from December.
              1. 0
                31 July 2015 20: 54
                14. March 24 - In Tatarstan, OJSC TANECO launched a new combined hydrocracking unit for raw mix into commercial operation.
                Capacity: 2,9 million tons of diesel fuel, jet fuel and gasoil per year.
                Investments: 40 billion rubles.
                15. 24 March - In the city of Nizhny Novgorod, at the GAZ automobile plant, serial production of the GAZel NEXT bus has been launched.
                Investments: 400 mln. Rub.
                16. 25 March - The Kunashaksky poultry farm rebuild complex was opened in the Chelyabinsk region.
                Capacity: 9 thousand heads per hour.
                Investments: 5,7 billion rubles.
                17. 26 March - The first stage of the plant for the assembly of Chinese cars Great Wall Hover is opened in the Krasninsky district of the Lipetsk region.
                Investments: 10 billion rubles.
                18. 26 March - Concern "Tractor Plants" began the production of combines on a new site in the city of Cheboksary.
                19. 27 March - Saransky Dairy Plant launched a new plant for the production of crumbly curd, as well as a second line for the production of pressed curd.

                April 2014 of the year:
                1. 1 April - One of the most modern and largest poultry meat processing enterprises in Russia is open in the Kuzhenersky district of Mari El.
                Capacity: 9 thousand heads per hour.
                Investments: 14 billion rubles.
                2. April 2 - Novosibirsk manufacturer of equipment for television and radio broadcasting opened a new factory building.
                3. 4 April - In Ulyanovsk, at UAZ, production of light-duty trucks ISUZU was launched using full-cycle technology.
                4. 10 April - In the town of Rybinsk, Yaroslavl Region, at JSC “UEC - Gas Turbines”, production of the first in national practice unified gas pumping units began.
                5. 11 April - Siberian branch of the Metal Profile company opened a workshop for the production of sandwich panels in the Iskitimsky district of the Novosibirsk region.
                Capacity: 5 million m² per year.
                Investments: 800 mln. Rub.
                6. 14 April - The Omsk Lubricants Plant of Gazprom Neft launches the second phase of Russia's largest complex for blending, packaging and packaging of motor oils.
                Investments: 3,4 billion rubles.
                7. 14 April - In Tatarstan, at OAO Nizhnekamskneftekhim, the fourth polystyrene production line was launched.
                8. 14 April - Mass production of the EvoTech 2,7 gasoline engine started at the Ulyanovsk engine plant of the GAZ Group.
                Power: 15 thousand engines per year.
                9. 16 April - In the town of Asbest, Sverdlovsk Region, the second production line of heat-insulating materials of OJSC Uralasbest was opened.
                Capacity: 94 thousand tons of thermal insulation per year.
                Investments: 2 billion rubles.
                10. 16 April - The first stage of the biotechnological complex for the development, implementation and production of medicines is opened in the Ryazan region.
                Investments: 4,8 billion rubles.
              2. +1
                31 July 2015 20: 55
                11. 16 April - In Bashkiria, at the POLIEF JSC, the project to expand the production of polyethylene terephthalate (PET) was completed.
                Investments: 1,9 billion rubles.
                12. 17 April - The investment project “Construction of a plant for the production of concrete products for large-panel housing construction” was implemented in Voronezh.
                Capacity: 126 thousand m³ of reinforced concrete per year.
                Investments: 1,3 billion rubles.
                13. 17 April - The construction of a new creamery has been completed in the Dinsk district of the Krasnodar Territory
                Capacity: 500 tons of processed seeds per day.
                Investments: 500 mln. Rub.
                14. 22 April - The new Eurocosmed-Stupino plant was opened in the Stupinsky District of the Moscow Region.
                Investments: 416 mln. Rub.
                15. 24 April - A new factory for the production of children's cereals was opened in Vologda, on the territory of the Nestlé Russia branch.
                Investments: 1,7 billion rubles.
                16. 25 April - In the city of Stavropol, at the “Signal” radio plant, the second stage of the assembly shop of electronic equipment was opened.
                Investments: 1,2 billion rubles.
                17. 26 April - A plant for the production of low-voltage switching equipment opened in Ulyanovsk, on the territory of the Zavolzhye industrial zone.
                Investments: 600 mln. Rub.

                May 2014 of the year:
                1. 13 May - The opening of the new plant "VitrA-plumbing" took place in Serpukhov district of the Moscow region.
                Capacity: 1 million plumbing units per year.
                Investments: 2,8 billion rubles.
                2. 14 May - In the city of Elektrostal, Moscow Region, a new enterprise for the production of autoclaved cellular aerated concrete has been opened.
                Capacity: 600 thousand products per year.
                Investments: 1,6 billion rubles.
                3. May 14 - In Tatarstan, in the SEZ "Alabuga", the plant of the German company RMA Pipeline Equipment began manufacturing spherical pipe fittings.
                Capacity: 11 thousand ball valves for trunk pipes per year.
                Investments: 1,7 billion rubles.
                4. 14 May - A new workshop of Bogdanovichsky City Dairy Plant has been opened in Bogdanovichi, Sverdlovsk Region.
                Investments: 2 billion rubles.
                5. May 16 - Dina Energetics - Siberia plant for the production of perforating systems for the oil and gas industry was launched in the Nizhnetavdinsky district of the Tyumen region.
                Capacity: 24 thousand perforators and 1,5 million shaped charges per year.
                Investments: 720 mln. Rub.
                6. May 16 - In the Vladimir region, at the Kovrov Electromechanical Plant OJSC, an assembly production of machines of the Japanese company TAKISAWA was opened.
                Power: up to 1700 machines per year.
                7. May 19 - In Kaluga, in the industrial park "Grabtsevo" a new plant for the production of medicines of the German company "Berlin-Chemie" was opened.
                Capacity: 50 million packs per year.
                Investments: 2 billion rubles.
              3. +2
                31 July 2015 20: 56
                8. May 19 - The opening of a new cement plant of the French company Lafarge took place in the Ferzikovsky district of the Kaluga region.
                Capacity: 2 million tonnes of cement per year.
                Investments: 23 billion rubles.
                9. May 22 - A new production complex of the North-Western Regional Center of the Almaz-Antey Air Defense Concern was opened in St. Petersburg.
                Investments: 20,69 billion rubles.
                10. May 25 - A new Biaksplen line for the production of a biaxially oriented polypropylene film (BOPP film) was put into operation in Novokuibyshevsk, the Samara region.
                Capacity: 30,5 tons of BOPP per year.
                Investments: 1,9 billion rubles.
                11. 27 May - The plant of petroleum engineering has been opened in the town of Stary Oskol, Belgorod Region.
                12. May 28 - Opening of a steel casting plant of Balakovo-Centrolit CJSC took place in Balakovo district of the Saratov region.
                Capacity: 18 thousand tons of castings per year.
                Investments: 4 billion rubles.
                13. 28 May - A new plant for the production of enzyme preparations Agroferment LLC was opened in Pervomaisky district of the Tambov region.
                Investments: 700 mln. Rub.
                14. 29 May - The cement plant "Asia Cement" was opened in Nikolsk, Penza region.
                Capacity: 2 million tonnes of cement per year.
                Investments: 10 billion rubles.
                15. May 29 - A plant for the production of communal road equipment was opened in Kaluga, in the industrial park Kaluga-Yug.
                Investments: 500 mln. Rub.
                16. May 30 - The launch of the STES-Vladimir plant for the industrial production of foam glass took place in the city of Vladimir.
                Investments: 5,5 billion rubles.
                17. May 31 - A factory for the production of car locks LLC Kikert Rus was opened in Tatarstan.
                18. May 31 - a plant for the production of pellets LLC Lesnaya Niva was opened in the Ulyanovsk region.
                19. 31 May - In the Yaroslavl region. The plant for the production of metal structures of Industrial Power Machines LLC was opened.
                20. 31 May - In the Belgorod region. The plant for the production of veterinary drugs LLC Belfarmakom was opened.
                21. 31 May - A shop for the processing of fish of OJSC “Russian Sea” is opened in the Murmansk region.

                June 2014 of the year:
                1. June 5 - In the Kaluga region, in the industrial park Kaluga-Yug, the opening of the plant of Continental Automotive Systems Rus was held.
                Investments: 1,2 billion rubles.
                2. June 5 - In the Orenburg region, at the Gaisky GOK, the complex of the Novaya mine facilities and the third stage of the ore-preparatory complex of the processing plant were put into operation.
                Investments: 5,5 billion rubles.
                3. 9 June - A mining and processing plant was launched in the Mezensky district of the Arkhangelsk region, at the Vladimir Grib diamond deposit.
                Investments: 3,3 billion rubles.
                1. +2
                  2 August 2015 03: 03
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  17. May 31 - A factory for the production of car locks LLC Kikert Rus was opened in Tatarstan.

                  This is unreal cool !!!
                  laughing
              4. 0
                31 July 2015 20: 58
                4. 9 June - The largest feed mill in Siberia has been opened in the Promyshlennovsky district of the Kemerovo region on the territory of the Vaganovo cattle breeding complex.
                Power: 10 tons per hour.
                Investments: 470 mln. Rub.
                5. 10 June - The production of energy-saving glass has been opened in the Ramensky District of the Moscow Region.
                Investments: 2 billion rubles.
                6. 10 June - The first line in Russia for the production of wheels for high-speed and high-speed trains launched at the Vyksa Metallurgical Plant in the Nizhny Novgorod region.
                Capacity: 10 thous. Railway wheels per year.
                Investments: 580 mln. Rub.
                7. 10 June - In Ufa, Bashneft has commissioned a catalytic cracking gasoline hydrotreatment unit for the Bashneft-UNPZ affiliate.
                Investments: 5 billion rubles.
                8. 16 June - A factory for the production of autoclaved aerated concrete blocks has been opened in the Gorodishchensky district of the Penza region.
                Capacity: 250 thousand m³ per year.
                Investments: 700 mln. Rub.
                9. 18 June - A ceremony was held in Ulyanovsk dedicated to the release of the first Russian machines of the German-Japanese concern DMG Mori Seiki.
                Power: up to 1000 machines per year.
                Investments: more than 1 billion rubles.
                10. 19 June - A new production line of Cargill wheat deep processing was opened in the town of Efremov, Tula Region.
                Investments: 3 billion rubles.
                11. 25 June - A plant for the production of construction equipment of the Japanese company Hitachi was opened in Tver, on the territory of the Raslovo industrial park.
                Investments: 2,5 billion rubles.
                12. 25 June - In Omsk, a new line for the production of large-panel house-building elements was launched at the Omsk Combine of Building Structures.
                Capacity: 100 thousand m² of housing per year.
                Investments: 700 mln. Rub.
                13. 26 June - The first full-cycle production of micro sources for low-dose brachytherapy using iodine-125 is launched in Dubna, Moscow Region.
                Investments: 688 mln. Rub.
                14. 27 June - A new production site of Samara Plant Electroshield - Stroyindustriya was opened in the Kinelsky District of the Samara Region.
                Investments: 700 mln. Rub.
                15. 30 June - Meat-processing complex LLC MITEKO was opened in Kalmykia.
                16. June 30 - The first stage of the new production complex of EKRA Research and Production Enterprise LLC was put into operation in Chuvashia.
                17. 30 June - In the Sverdlovsk region. The plant for the production of penetrating waterproofing CJSC Group of Companies "Penetron-Russia" began its work.
                18. June 30 - Production of built-in and cabinet furniture by Furniture Plant No. XXUMX LLC has been launched in the Kostroma region.

                July 2014 of the year:
                1. July 1 - In the Kaluga region, in the industrial park "Rosva", the opening of the plant for the production of automotive components - "ContiTech".
                Investments: 800 mln. Rub.
                1. +2
                  2 August 2015 00: 33
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  ...
                  1. July 1 - In the Kaluga region, in the industrial park "Rosva", the opening of the plant for the production of automotive components - "ContiTech".
                  Investments: 800 mln. Rub.


                  Did you get it from the "doneunas" site?
                  It was smooth on paper ....
                  I work for a firm with the "... ContiTech ..." part in the name.
                  So, I’ll tell you a secret that investors who have invested money in this plant are BREAKING ON HAIR POP. The calculation was made on Kaluga Volkswagen in particular, and the Russian car industry in general, and with this something was not very much - reduction in production - the automobile market in Russia collapsed by more than a third!
                  The truth about this on "doneunas" is not written. They're probably shy ...
      7. +19
        31 July 2015 16: 45
        They are caused in general by ALL the domestic and economic policies of the state in particular.
        I subscribe to 100% under this phrase. The main management tool is the legislation and I don’t even feel disgusted to read it, it’s ridiculous for me. 25 State Duma has been climbing over the years to pile up administrative obstacles in the way of business, almost all world legislation has been piled in one heap and forcing our economy to writhe in this slurry. Well, we can’t work like in Germany, or France, or Holland, we didn’t have colonies to rob money and invest in the economy, in the last century we had to rise from the ruins twice, the capitalization of the entire economy was below 3-4 corporations. Nooo, live by their laws, otherwise we, so beautiful, will not be considered democratic. I have long been suggesting that all the State Duma deputies be sent to Afghanistan to introduce the Russian Family Code, so that they understand that the laws must be adequate to the realities.
        As for the lack of money, you just need to look at the agreements of the same Gazprom. They openly write in the contract that they will pay for goods and services delivered to them no earlier than six months later !!! And this is a common practice of state corporations. Efficiency is lower than the baseboard. Exxon Mobil and Gazprom have similar revenues, but Gazprom has 11 times more people. In Japan, the turnover of money during the heyday was 250 once a year, and if you are paid once every six months, there will not be enough money for the state.
        1. +1
          1 August 2015 02: 17
          Quote: Begemot
          Exxon Mobil and Gazprom have similar revenue, but Gazprom employs 11 times more people.

          "Echoic" management.
      8. +1
        1 August 2015 19: 52
        Quote: Colorado
        And NOTHING is done to solve them.

        Why nothing? They do it according to their "concepts". They are trying to pull the next pipes, however, something did not work out very well: China refused the pipe from Altai, but the Turks increased their Wishlist. In their own country, the ruble collapsed, prices for everything were raised, salaries were cut, they are going to raise the retirement age.
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      1. -4
        31 July 2015 15: 50
        Quote: siberalt
        The system must be changed

        Change vertical to horizontal?
        1. +1
          31 July 2015 16: 03
          Quote: atalef
          Quote: siberalt
          The system must be changed

          Change vertical to horizontal?

          like this:
          1. -3
            31 July 2015 16: 25
            Quote: U-47
            itata: atalef
            Quote: siberalt
            The system must be changed
            Change vertical to horizontal?

            there is another way
            1. +1
              1 August 2015 04: 08
              bravo kitty, that's what school means ..
      2. +13
        31 July 2015 15: 52
        The system must be changed

        Brevity is the soul of wit. I support, dear "sibiralt" / Oleg good + + + + +
        And now a couple of rhetorical questions wink
        1. And who will take the liberty of declaring to the whole country: "We are going the wrong way, comrades! .." what
        2. With what fright did capitalist (?!.) Russia suddenly embody the coat of arms of imperial times and the anthem (melody) of the times of the USSR? It’s time to decide for ourselves - what do we really want ... hi
        1. -9
          31 July 2015 16: 04
          Quote: RU-Officer
          And who will dare to declare to the whole country: "We are going the wrong way, comrades! .."

          Medvedev - elections are coming
          Quote: RU-Officer
          What a fright at the capitalist

          In socialism, there were already - neither the ice, nor the countries (who continued to develop it)
          Venezuela Bolivia Cuba, Nicaragua and of course the country with developed Socialism - With Korea
          --- from the point of view of an example of optimism do not cause
          1. +5
            31 July 2015 17: 40
            Quote: atalef
            Venezuela Bolivia Cuba, Nicaragua and of course the country with developed Socialism - With Korea
            --- from the point of view of an example of optimism do not cause

            What about China?
            1. +3
              31 July 2015 19: 14
              Quote: Novel 11
              What about China?

              And for China, your eyes are not the same.
              However, read for yourself the conditions in which workers and peasants live in China. Yes, yes, exactly those on whose name the CCP always swears and allegedly whose name they rule. That is, of course, if you are thinking of getting into the nomenclature or "new Chinese", then you will like the Chinese orders. How will you get into the proletariat?
            2. 0
              2 August 2015 11: 22
              And Sweden, and Canada, and Australia?
          2. +6
            31 July 2015 19: 37
            You simply did not live in 1964-1983 and do not know what socialism is, and in the above that you listed the countries there, the dictatorship is simple and clear, and there is no socialism. Socialism can only Sweden and somewhere else.
          3. MrK
            +7
            1 August 2015 00: 42
            atalef
            In socialism were already

            The brain of a modern Russian man was extremely dusty when, under the guise of socialism, he was shoved into the consciousness by the EQUATIONAL Khrushchev-Brezhnevsky Communism. Therefore, he is partly forced to put up with capitalism because of a comparison with past Soviet systems.
            But in reality, it was not socialism that lost to capitalism - but the EQUAL Khrushchev-Brezhnevsky Communism! But real, real socialism is so genuinely entrepreneurial and tough-competitive - that the vaunted capitalist competition is no good for him!
            Under Stalin, production leaders earned and received more ministers.

            [A. Kurlyandchik - “CURSED SOVIET AUTHORITY” ... on or Proza.ru}
            1. +1
              1 August 2015 02: 05
              Quote: mrark
              KRAKHSTV-BREZHNEVSK COMMUNISM
              Still, the nomenclature Khrushchev-Brezhnev period is stagnant (in the sense of the correspondence of actions to goals).

              Socialism is the first stage of communism, its initial stage (in this case, until communism itself - as before China as cancer).

              And the leveling was very arbitrary - the decile coefficient in the USSR in different periods ranged from 3 to 5 (in Denmark, Finland, Sweden it is now 3–5, in Germany, Austria, France 5–8)
            2. 0
              1 August 2015 09: 53
              Quote: mrark
              KRAKHSTV-BREZHNEVSK COMMUNISM

              The main difference between communism is the abolition of the monetary system, I don’t remember something like that
    5. +7
      31 July 2015 15: 29
      The system needs to be changed, but before that nothing has changed for the better.
    6. wef
      +11
      31 July 2015 16: 50
      Reflection of reality is a gibberish?
      Our opponents have plans not limited to a year or two, they are planning everything for decades. They will not fight us by force of arms - they are "blowing up" us from the inside. Destruction of any independent industries on the territory of Russia, destruction of education, health care, etc.
      Russia has a chance to break out of this hell, but no real attempts have been made to make these steps important for the survival of Russian civilization.

      Here is the latest publication by Delyagin: http://delyagin.ru/articles/87725-udalis-li-sanktcii-i-kak-iz-pod-nikh-vyjti.htm
      l
      This is just an assessment of life.
      The sanctions have not yet been brought. Indeed, despite the help from the liberals of the socio-economic bloc of the government and the Bank of Russia, the Russian economy is by no means torn to shreds, as Obama dreamed about it. But sanctions can bring results if they are supported internally. Especially if they are supported by a significant part of senior officials of the government and the Bank of Russia: then they really can lead to the destruction of the Russian economy and Russia itself.
      If you believe the official statements of the West, Russia should first of all leave the Crimea, giving its population to slaughter and tear to pieces. Secondly, it must ensure free access of subsidized European exports to its territory through Ukraine, thereby destroying its economy. Thirdly, to abandon not just criticism, but in general any moral assessment of the Russophobic and Nazi regime established by the West in Ukraine (but this requirement seems to have already been fulfilled at the official level). However, experience of cooperation with the West shows that the implementation of formal requirements leads to nothing. The real position of the West, in my opinion, was voiced by the deputy director of the CIA, who said that Putin should leave the Kremlin and if not in a good way, then with a bullet in the back of his head. I think it reflects the real position of the West and Obama’s comparison of Russia with Ebola fever: the only dangerous way to deal with the virus of a dangerous disease is to try to destroy it.
      Judging by the behavior of the West, the main goal of the sanctions is the destruction of Russia for the same reasons that they destroyed Libya. Indeed, in a crisis, it’s too expensive to negotiate even with a corrupt state on the use of its natural resources. It is much simpler and cheaper to simply take these natural resources for nothing, destroying the state for this, as they did with Libya.
    7. 0
      31 July 2015 17: 43
      Putinclerosis of the brain ..... it must be treated. and then that. that khan will be .....
    8. +22
      31 July 2015 17: 53
      Actually, the article is true, it can be said that a quiet default took place in the country, the buck was 30, and it became 60, and for a year they have been trying to tell us about patriotism, or are you also sitting on something
    9. +16
      31 July 2015 17: 58
      Quote: Putin
      Lord, when are these clicks to calm down. We all die, we die, we won’t die at all, and well-wishers can’t calm down. Croak and croak

      Are there any thoughts instead of labels? Well, sort of a substantive objection. I disagree with some points, but in general the article reflects the real state of affairs. Note that any speech by any member of this liberal government is a speech about nothing, seasoned with newfangled words learned at the HSE. No specifics. Where are we heading? By what methods? How will we achieve it? Where are the main goals and how to achieve them? Except for slogans like "how we keep inflation in check" - nothing!
      No strategy, no tactics. Just stuffing the pockets of a narrow circle of people, where the interests of the state, and even more so the people, are, at best, tenth. There is no personal interest of an "effective manager" - no business. And do not care how important it is. Vital. For the country. And if this continues, it will happen as written in the article. Read the article carefully and if you have anything to object (here there are already doubts) - write. And then, just try to criticize the "saints rulil" and now a liberal and hysterical.
    10. -15
      31 July 2015 18: 32
      Quote: Putin
      Lord, when are these clicks to calm down. We all die, we die, we won’t die at all, and well-wishers can’t calm down. Croak and croak

      Judging by the number of minuses, NATO's "couch troops" entered the fight. Well, our "all prospers" were inspired!
      1. -3
        1 August 2015 01: 34
        And to the court on the number of minuses (no comments) under my previous comment, I'm 500% right !!!
    11. dvk
      +5
      31 July 2015 19: 48
      At the same time, the federal budget is literally choking on money: unused balances on its accounts as of July 1 amounted to 9,2 trillion rubles.

      It is on this information that the ruble is falling, and the people are already worse than living in the 90s and have no effect on inflation
    12. +5
      31 July 2015 20: 48
      turn on your brains, confused or do you have such a job ???
      1. +3
        1 August 2015 00: 52
        Quote: vezunchik
        turn on your brains, confused or do you have such a job ???

        this is his business exclusively
    13. +7
      31 July 2015 21: 44
      It is necessary to listen to smart people. The truth is unpleasant. The trouble is that the government has joined us in the WTO, and the WTO does not imply economic, and therefore political independence from the United States. Now the government is the administrative organ of the WTO. The purpose of the WTO is to consolidate US global leadership, which is based on the unlimited dominance of transnational corporations.
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    15. +7
      31 July 2015 21: 58
      Quote: Putin
      and delagins well, do not calm down.

      Delyagina, Glazyev - must be introduced into the government! Tired of stupidity of the Central Bank and ministers!
      1. +2
        1 August 2015 03: 05
        Quote: mervino2007
        Delyagina, Glazyev - must be introduced into the government! Tired of stupidity of the Central Bank and ministers!

        Add Katasonov!
    16. -2
      1 August 2015 04: 22
      Never!!! At least until they get paid for it candy wrappers! It really hurts a big pie, Russia, and so they want to break it off.
    17. +4
      1 August 2015 06: 19
      By the way, Delyagin 10 years ago accurately predicted the current situation! And this is not a whooper, but a very educated and intelligent person! What do you want to say that we have a great situation in the economy and an excellent government! Not to mention these foul bankers, which will lead to the complete destruction of the economy of Russia and its people! The worst thing is that we have no economic strategy, no planning, no popular control, no legal system. There is nothing. And we hold only by inertia created by the USSR of values. And it seems we are starting to return to them, but it is too late. Therefore, it is very difficult for Putin: he has few strong and smart guys in his team, and the people are barred from participating in the country's development process.
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    19. +1
      1 August 2015 07: 57
      Here are the cons? Where is the conscience? Do you want blood? I thought that the public is smarter at VO, but obviously "Maidan" "infected"? What will Putin alone do? Without people? The people are the strength. And if not, what kind of people? On the ground, it is necessary to deal with thieves, and teach yourself and your children to live not by stealing, but by creativity.
      1. +3
        1 August 2015 17: 34
        What will Putin do alone? Without people?

        fear God! This "what kind of people" (in your opinion) gives 95% support to Putin in his endeavors aimed at reviving the greatness of Russia.
        In addition (and this is the most important support), even now, when the situation of people has sharply worsened, there is no mass discontent and protests.
        Putin has such a carte blanche which, probably, only Yeltsin had at the beginning of his "activity".
        Yeltsin turned around widely, breaking everything and everyone.
        And here we see timid and more verbal shocks of air.
        There are very few real steps.
        Therefore, a respected public at VO is worried: either we really will go forward or ... no one wants this.
    20. 0
      1 August 2015 14: 17
      Agree with you !!!
    21. +5
      1 August 2015 14: 24
      We all die, we die, we will not die

      Russia really - will never die. What can not be said about its indigenous population.
      The liberal postulates of our economic "fathers" do not generally envisage an increase in the number of the native Russian population of the country.
      Moreover, MES chicks are seriously discussing the possibility of reducing the population in Russia by 20 - 30 million people. They are not needed! This is according to economic liberals.
      The weak efforts of some leaders in raising the birth rate immediately came across strong opposition from the liberal wing.
      If one "hand" began to give out maternity capital, then the other "hand" began to massively close maternity hospitals, dairy kitchens for babies and so on.
      And such trends still do not meet with resistance.
      In the Soviet Union there was such an important component of the economy as: the separation of cash and non-cash money. It was from the breakdown of this most important rule that the undermining of the Soviet economy was begun.
      Uncontrolled overflow of non-cash money into cash allowed to bring down the money supply and led to the creation of multimillionaires. And to the impoverishment of the rest of the population.
      Money concentrated in one hand.
      And it is still valid.
    22. -2
      1 August 2015 14: 34
      So these are not bags tossing and turning ...
    23. -2
      1 August 2015 16: 01
      Quote: Putin
      when are these clicks to calm down.

      Delyagin does not look like a whooper)). But he doesn’t.
    24. +4
      1 August 2015 17: 35
      Quote: Putin
      Lord, when are these clicks to calm down. We all die, we die, we won’t die at all, and well-wishers can’t calm down. Croak and croak

      You are not a Putin, but a non-Putin. Delyagin is right at 1000% You are not familiar with political economy, or you are fed up with power and the oligarchy.
    25. +1
      1 August 2015 19: 57
      What country do you live in? And I am ashamed of our government !!!! Look at what is being done in "GLUBINKA" prices have grown significantly !!! gasoline and diesel fuel is growing every day !! Fucking MAGNETS. CROSSROADS. Twist infinitely !!! What's this? ECONOMY? It's just a mess. And no control! When will they get drunk? The chapel will be or not! The country has all the vital resources. Suffering from sanctions !!! THIS IS something !!!!!!
    26. 0
      1 August 2015 20: 37
      a tough article, but in many respects shows the realities of the Russian economy, without any "bagura".
    27. 0
      2 August 2015 21: 01
      And where does Khazin and Delyagin? The guys say business)))))) And in general, discuss financial issues, went .....
    28. 0
      3 August 2015 01: 26
      ... he has an addiction like a drug addict - this is what kind of leg he gets up with in the morning, with one left, one course, with the right one - the opposite ..
  2. +12
    31 July 2015 14: 47
    Healthy criticism has not disturbed anyone yet! You need to be able to listen and apply clever thoughts in practice, then sanctions will not be scary, etc.
  3. +25
    31 July 2015 14: 47
    Well, really, at least one article is not in the style of "hurray, stability, Putin has all outplayed". The article is more like a warning, we will follow the course we are going now, not in the fall, so next year or 2017 will be bad.
    1. +1
      31 July 2015 14: 57
      If you follow the main train of thought of Delyagin, then his rabid PESSIMISM is his life credo, and the future is hopeless and black. But it’s better to overestimate the enemy than underestimate, and such a cold shower invigorates the brain and induces action.
      1. -5
        31 July 2015 15: 23
        Quote: Styx
        If you follow the main train of thought of Delyagin, then his rabid PESSIMISM is his life credo, and the future is hopeless and black. But it’s better to overestimate the enemy than underestimate, and such a cold shower invigorates the brain and induces action.


        And how does such pessimism invigorate the brain? Feeling hopeless? And what action does it encourage? Hang yourself, dump or go to the Maidan? Such articles appear every month, everyone knows the main theses by heart, but what's the point in them? At least one of the prophets suggested at least something concrete, except for a change of government, which, obviously, no one will voluntarily change, and now we will definitely not go to the brink of "Maidan"? What can we ourselves, what exactly are we preparing for, is it possible, without going out to demonstrations, to force the government to resign? So far, there are no specifics in such articles, all this is just pressure on the psyche with an incomprehensible goal, but hardly a good one - fear and depression are not the best advisers when making decisions.
        1. +1
          31 July 2015 15: 39
          Do not relax! That's all :) And yes, after his articles I want to fly to the moon. Everything really is extremely gloomy for him. But after reading extremely optimistic articles, you find a middle ground, and you understand that if you don’t fold your hands in anticipation of the end of the world, but act, then milk will turn out to be a delicious butter, like a fairy tale about a frog.
        2. -2
          31 July 2015 15: 52
          Quote: nekot
          Such articles appear every month, everyone already knows by heart the main points, but what's the point?

          Nothing, everyone already knows everything
          Quote: nekot
          At least one of the prophets proposed at least something specific, except for a change of government,

          And why not change it (as in all normal countries)?
          Government does not cope - resign
          Quote: nekot
          While there is no specificity in such articles,

          There are few real violent ones - there are no leaders crying
          1. +2
            31 July 2015 17: 36
            Quote: atalef
            Government can't handle

            Who decides whether the government is managing or not?

            Quote: atalef
            can't cope - resign

            Who is resigning the government?

            Ah .. yes .. I'm talking about the Russian Federation, naturally .. Yes

            Quote: atalef
            Quote: nekot
            While there is no specifics in such articles
            There are few real violent ones - there are no leaders

            You-about the Russian Federation, and you-about the madhouse .. intolerant somehow laughing
          2. -10
            31 July 2015 18: 11
            Quote: atalef
            And why not change it (as in all normal countries)?
            Government does not cope - resign

            Theoretically, it would be possible to change, but not for anyone. This is the first. And secondly, I do not think that it can not cope. Any economy has ups and downs. Yes, and how to look. For example, a graph shows the decline in Israeli gdp in xnumx.
            http://www.ereport.ru/stat.php?razdel=country&count=israel&table=gpecia
            This is not a stone in Israel's vegetable garden. According to other data (for example, "nominal GDP") there is no such decline. This means "from which side to look."
            1. +8
              31 July 2015 20: 47
              How not to anyone? This is for 25 years with a libertarian inspiration to us that there is no one and we will be lost without these "our everything." We have that, out of almost 150 people now, there is no one to rule? Nonsense and heresy hammered into the head by enemy agents. Do we have good business executives, but the same bankers, but the same ministers cannot be found? But what about the current ones, like the Furniture-maker Taburetkin, who was put on MO? All this is a lie, just to stay and further plunder the country. And their first roof is a guarantor who does not plant this gang, but lets them escape to the West or continues to give places at the state feeder.
              1. -1
                1 August 2015 19: 02
                You name a specific surname. I don’t know such a name, therefore I say that there’s no one. And if you think that there is a better alternative - call. And so this is all demagogy, like the one that is written in the article.
                1. 0
                  1 August 2015 19: 11
                  Quote: Jack-B
                  You will name a specific surname

                  It does not know how laughing

                  Quote: Jack-B
                  I don’t know such a name, therefore I say that it’s not on

                  She doesn’t know either, but she’s embarrassed to admit it feel

                  Quote: Jack-B
                  it's all demagogy like

                  Exactly. There is a horse Tingent, which specializes exclusively in it. Your opponent is from there exactly.
              2. 0
                2 August 2015 07: 37
                and a competent military general understands a lot in economics and accounting to manage the ministry? "competent generals" have already filled their pockets and built estates
          3. +1
            1 August 2015 17: 40
            Sorry, a colleague in the forum, I clicked the wrong way, you have 5 pluses, your overseas skepticism is reasonable.
    2. +1
      1 August 2015 09: 54
      Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
      or 2017 will be bad.

      it looks like it will be bad in 2018 - the Russian team will lose at the 2018 World Cup, this can be said with a guarantee :-)
    3. Alf
      +1
      1 August 2015 20: 58
      Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
      so next year or 2017 will be bad.

      No wonder they drove Aurora for repairs ...
  4. -2
    31 July 2015 14: 47
    As soon as I got to the phrase: "the liberals understand," I stopped reading ...
    1. +13
      31 July 2015 14: 57
      In vain they stopped. Liberals understand what they are doing and for whom they work.
      But "our" government does not seem to know with whom it is.
      1. wef
        +7
        31 July 2015 16: 25
        But "our" government does not seem to know with whom it is.

        He knows, and obviously not with us.
  5. +5
    31 July 2015 14: 49
    Global business does not allow the state to fulfill its obligations to the people.

    It’s not a global crisis, but liberals in power who control the Gaidar’s foster families from the HSE and the like.
    1. +16
      31 July 2015 14: 52
      And who put "the fosterlings of the Gaidarovskys from the Higher School of Economics and the like" and who is in charge of them? That's right, Mr. Putin and his loyal friend Mr. Medvedev. But why write about it? You can shift all responsibility to "HSE, Gaidar, MMM, KPSS, liberals ..."
  6. +13
    31 July 2015 14: 53
    I fully support it, Mr. Delyagin has been trying hard and long to reach out to those in power and to prove that the liberals must be driven away from the economy by the end.
  7. +8
    31 July 2015 14: 53
    is the result of bona fide stupidity and squalor, not deliberate betrayal

    I disagree. Everything is done consciously, therefore it is surprising that the so-called "liberals". It is high time to replace them with statesmen.
    1. +13
      31 July 2015 14: 57
      Who will replace them with statists?
      "The most important liberal" and "Sobchak's student", how does Mr. Putin express himself about himself?
  8. 0
    31 July 2015 14: 55
    Gloomy prospects! And the question immediately arises "WHAT TO DO?" Misha, maybe you know the answer? so you write, do not be shy!
    1. +12
      31 July 2015 15: 01
      What to do:
      1. Print reserve funds.
      2. Create support programs for small and medium-sized businesses and start subsidizing it, not banks.
      3. Zero the key interest rate.
      4. Reduce domestic electricity and energy prices.
      5. Get out of the WTO.
      Here is a small fraction of what needs to be done to get out of, we will say bluntly, economic depression.
      Only the liberals in power will never agree to this. This means that we will continue to roll into the abyss under the slogans of "mnogo-mnogohovochka" and "cunning, outwitted plan."
      1. +5
        31 July 2015 15: 33
        Quote: Colorado
        What to do:

        6. To abolish FULLY taxation of small agricultural enterprises.
        1. +1
          31 July 2015 16: 05
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Cancel FULLY taxation of small agricultural enterprises.

          So tomorrow Gazprom, Rosneft and Sberbank - will become small agricultural enterprises.
          1. +4
            31 July 2015 19: 34
            Quote: atalef
            So tomorrow Gazprom, Rosneft and Sberbank - will become small agricultural enterprises.
            It will be necessary - and the cow will be presented, and the milkmaid with her, and a whole team of lawyers who prove that they just fall under the definition of a "small agricultural enterprise".
            By the way, here is an idea for them. Instead of unsuccessfully using workers and equipment to clean the weeds around fences, gas pipelines, and so on, let goats go. In America, this is a whole business - the owners of goat herds make arrangements to clean the thickets around roads, bridges, and other places where it is needed. Especially in places where the equipment does not turn around - slopes and more. Goats cleanly eat all the greens, even such disgusting things as Poison Ivy (say thank you, it’s not found in the Russian Federation - the nettle before it is like China's cancer, once burned - it was smeared with cortisone for 2 weeks and hawala antihistamines). But goats only rejoice and increase milk yield, and by the way goat cheese here in America is sold exclusively in small packages for gourmets and oh, how expensive. Well, the goats in these offices, apparently, are enough.
            1. 0
              31 July 2015 20: 28
              Quote: Nagan
              It will be required - and the cow will be presented


              By the way (referring to the video) Vova is not on the bunk, but on the galleys.
              Quote: Nagan
              a place to use workers and equipment unsuccessfully, to clean weed thickets around fences, gas pipelines, etc., let goats be brought in. In America, this is a whole business -

              There, even on the goats learned to cash in? belay
              Although the idea is interesting
              As an example, to clean the thickets around gas pipelines .... Suddenly a pipe disappeared, --100 kilometers, where they ask a pipe
              --- gobbled up -

              Quote: Nagan
              Well, the goats in these offices, apparently, are enough.

              Nature does not tolerate emptiness and as a rule tends to balance
              If somewhere there are not enough goats, then somewhere in abundance wassat hi
      2. +2
        31 July 2015 15: 39
        Quote: Colorado
        1. Print reserve funds.

        Yes, they are printed, it has already decreased by more than 200 billion

        Quote: Colorado
        . Create support programs for small and medium-sized businesses and start subsidizing it, not banks.

        All the same, these programs will go through banks, there can be no other scheme (or you can offer another)

        Quote: Colorado
        Zero the key interest rate.

        Zero out? those. interest-free loans? This people will like it, recruit, and then? Well then hi inflation No.

        Quote: Colorado
        Reduce domestic electricity and energy prices

        And where will the budget come from?
        Quote: Colorado
        Get out of the WTO.

        Well, this is by the way easier than ever.
        Quote: Colorado
        ... This means that we will continue to roll into the abyss under the slogans of "mnogo-mnogohovochka" and "cunning, outwitted plan."

        Well, part of your methods will result in more corruption than liberals. hi
        1. -1
          31 July 2015 16: 04
          Hello Leo Orthodox! hi
          Quote: atalef
          And where will the budget come from?
          Up to this point + \ - I agree, but here is the question. Have you heard about the effective investment of funds in our government? Didn’t you try to withdraw cash from the GKO of the USA and the EU? The domestic economy lacks as usual: a carrot and a stick. Gingerbread - cheap domestic loans to manufacturers, preferential taxation, sales support. Well, a whip - there would be a back and a whip ... (well, of course, a desire) hi
          1. +2
            31 July 2015 16: 30
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            about this moment + \ - I agree, but here is the question. Have you heard about the effective investment of funds in our government?

            Of course, I’ll even tell you where — as an example — Rotenberg and Timchenko — gas pipelines and other crap for no good money

            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Didn’t you try to withdraw cash from the GKO of the USA and the EU?

            Natural product - how is it? rubles or bucks?
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            The domestic economy lacks as usual: a carrot and a stick.

            Well, the whip is there
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Gingerbread - cheap domestic loans to producers, preferential taxation,

            Who immediately throw grandmas into the market or transfer to bucks
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            sales support

            How and where is it?
            1. +2
              31 July 2015 18: 58
              Quote: atalef
              Natural product - how is it? rubles or bucks?

              Machine tools, equipment and other NATURAL values. And for the rest -
              Quote: atalef
              Who immediately throw grandmas into the market or transfer to bucks

              easy to limit only to targeted expenses.
              1. -2
                31 July 2015 20: 30
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Machine tools, equipment and other NATURAL values

                Trigger eggs?
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                easy to limit only to targeted expenses.

                Well, everyone’s goals are different laughing
                1. 0
                  31 July 2015 21: 49
                  Quote: atalef
                  Trigger eggs?

                  II, naturlich! (I forgot it mildly) Nostalgia for the Third Reich? laughing But seriously, in theory everything is simple. Money from US GKOs is withdrawn to funds registered in the USA as well, and contracts for the supply of equipment are concluded through these funds. Everything is simple, but in THEORY. In reality, there are interests (including selfish) that we do not know about. Otherwise, from the point of view of logic, I can not explain the purchase of the Central Bank of the US GKO. Especially now.
                  Quote: atalef
                  Well, everyone’s goals are different

                  What are you hinting at? The fact that we have everything bad? Believe me, it happened worse. Break through all the lives ... wink .. um, to spite the enemies! Historically proven.
                  1. +1
                    31 July 2015 22: 14
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    from US GKOs are withdrawn to funds registered also in the United States, and through these funds contracts for the supply of equipment are concluded

                    And what about the sanctions of the SIR, you forgot?
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    Everything is simple, but in THEORY

                    Do you know how theory differs from practice?
                    Dad, what is theoretically and practically?
                    - Well, look sonny, go to mom, grandparents and ask "they would
                    I slept with a black man for a million? "
                    Over time.
                    - Dad they all said "YES!"
                    - Here is the son !!! Theoretically, we have a million, and almost one gay and
                    two prostitutes

                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    Otherwise, in terms of logic, I can’t explain the purchase of the Central Bank of the USA

                    A reliable investment (albeit with a minimum income) Invest in gold, which has lost 2% in 37 years

                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    What are you hinting at? The fact that we have everything bad?

                    Not everything, now it is possible to travel to the Crimea with an internal passport (although it was possible before)
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    Believe me, it happened worse.

                    I know, he lived in Russia in the early 90s. Well then it’s clear why. and now ?
                    here anek heard new
                    Ivan Tsarevich goes to the river of water to get drunk, suddenly he sees a serpent sitting next to him and the horse eats up
                    He pulled out his sword, Ivan Tsarevich, the herak chopped off his head, and in its place 2 grew up, he’s been fighting with it for 10 hours already, the snake has already 100 goals, Ivan has become exhausted, suddenly the snake to him, stop, Ivanushka
                    Why did you come here?
                    _ Ivan
                    - Water to drink
                    Serpent - what am I bothering you with?

                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    Break through, historically proven.

                    and break through like this, from one breakthrough to another, and enemies only gain heads laughing
              2. 0
                1 August 2015 09: 58
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Machine tools, equipment and other NATURAL values

                Patents are better
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        3. +3
          31 July 2015 16: 05
          Quote: atalef
          Well, part of your methods will result in more corruption than liberals.


          laughing
          plus
      3. +3
        31 July 2015 16: 02
        Quote: Colorado
        1. Print reserve funds.
        2. Create support programs for small and medium-sized businesses and start subsidizing it, not banks.
        3. Zero the key interest rate.
        4. Reduce domestic electricity and energy prices.
        5. Get out of the WTO.
        Cross out point 2, swap points 1/5 and 3/4, in point 3 replace the word "zero" with the word "reduce", and then you will be more or less right (if the goal is a long and tedious change of the situation, of course).
        1. 0
          31 July 2015 16: 31
          Quote: Uncle Joe
          Cross out point 2, swap points 1/5 and 3/4, in point 3 replace the word "zero" with the word "reduce", and then you will be more or less right (if the goal is a long and tedious change of the situation, of course).

          Total business laughing
          1. +6
            31 July 2015 18: 00
            Total business
            Well yes laughing

            If the owner is more effective than the state, then why does he need support? If in fact it is not more efficient, what the hell is such an owner?

            If you do not get out of the WTO, but first print out the reserves (as I understand it, the reserve and the NWF are meant), then the money will go to anything other than business.

            Without lowering domestic prices - not to lower inflation, lowering the rate below inflation means starting to lend private owners more for them and paying extra.

            But in any case, all this will happen long and tedious, if the goals and the economic model are not changed, and the government does not become dependent on the people and does not begin to be responsible for their actions (by the way - a public organization campaigning for a referendum on establishing the responsibility of deputies , the government and the president for their actions have already been recognized as extremist)
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      5. +2
        31 July 2015 16: 07
        Quote: Colorado
        2. Create support programs for small and medium-sized businesses and start subsidizing it, not banks.

        it's like?
      6. 0
        31 July 2015 18: 16
        Quote: Colorado
        5. Get out of the WTO.

        It is logical if it is not profitable.
        Quote: Colorado
        4. Reduce domestic electricity and energy prices.

        The tariffs are fixed, they are taken into account according to the result of annual inflation, therefore, in conditions of recovery of production and lightening of the load, it will do, but without a long-term effect - since the country's energy base is worn out and energy losses may occur.
        Quote: Colorado
        3. Zero the key interest rate.

        The right way to deflation. The Euros are now the same, but they just have the economy has reached the ceiling and they can grow due to new markets. And our economy is very underutilized, but the domestic market, due to consumer insolvency (the main population), cannot increase demand ....... Marx described his own Capital in volumes with this simple scheme - capitalism enters into a stupor when fuel runs out (solvent demand of the population) There is no money, go down. )
        Quote: Colorado
        2. Create support programs for small and medium-sized businesses and start subsidizing it, not banks.

        These programs are saw feeders! and crime. If 20% are involved, that’s good. But you need to pour money into the banking system, here they are doing everything right, another thing needs to be resolved repressions criminal banks, it’s basically they scoop up money from the country engaged in drug trafficking, underground oil business, arms smuggling, pimping and other attributes of the economy. PS I do not agree with the first paragraph, the funds are sometimes printed.
      7. +4
        31 July 2015 18: 59
        Quote: Colorado
        What to do:
        1. Print reserve funds.

        Well, refuel the printer, and go.
        1. -3
          31 July 2015 20: 31
          Quote: Nagan
          Quote: Colorado
          What to do:
          1. Print reserve funds.

          Well, refuel the printer, and go.

          laughing
      8. 0
        1 August 2015 22: 57
        Koloradovatnik (1) SU Yesterday, 15:01 ↑
        What to do:
        clause 6. added the nationalization of all strategic enterprises.
    2. +3
      31 July 2015 15: 45
      according to classics, the first question is who is to blame? then what to do ...
      1. +2
        31 July 2015 16: 32
        Quote: afdjhbn67
        according to classics, the first question is who is to blame?

        Medvedev
        Quote: afdjhbn67
        then what to do ..

        Scold America
      2. 0
        1 August 2015 04: 04
        Quote: afdjhbn67
        according to classics, the first question is who is to blame?
        Can not find - appoint. It is advisable to those who are available for punitive actions, because:
        Quote: afdjhbn67
        then what to do ...
        It’s a matter of fact that it is indicative of punishment. So the same America to appoint guilty or, say, world Zionism is like natural elements, they exist regardless of your desires, and it will not work. Although, there was a case, the Persian Shah somehow ordered to punish the sea for the fact that it sank his fleet. And nothing - carved. Whips. Publicly. The executioners tried for hours, they were already wet. And the shah, and the subject mob were satisfied.
        But liberals can well be appointed and punished.
        1. 0
          1 August 2015 06: 12
          Well, for now, of all the options, we continue to hate America and blame Zionism in every way they are to blame. wassat
  9. -7
    31 July 2015 14: 56
    everything is understandable about lebera in Russia, but I’m not an economist, but the author is apparently smarter than everyone who is smart in the world and in Russia in particular, and the leadership of our country is stupid and does nothing about it, but I don’t believe it, and I dare to assume that the author himself doesn’t even have any idea about the ongoing work to counteract the existing harmful and initially flawed credit and financial system in the Russian Federation, but the work is already underway and a lot has been done, and there is still a lot of work to do, but happiness does not come in one-part, you just have to systematically deal with each it’s your own business, to have a will and be a patriot of your homeland, but you don’t need to have much mind, better suggest options for the most rational overcoming and solving the problem, up to the distribution of roles between performers and players ...
    1. +1
      31 July 2015 18: 55
      Quote: Volka
      according to it, the leadership of our country is stupid and does nothing, but I do not believe

      Have to believe, and do not ask. The manual is not stupid, of course, and understands everything perfectly. But there are doubts that a lot depends on him ....... after all, she cannot order the officials to cancel transfers of millions and billions of bribes to foreign banks! He cannot come to a person and prohibit the purchase of a Mercedes and insist on buying a VAZ, and hereinafter. In addition, we cannot know how much it is subject to pressure from the oligarchy. It can minimize, but completely ignore its interests - only to the detriment of the country. So far, one thing is clear that we will not go for a long course, if something else falls well on oil, then something will change.
      1. 0
        31 July 2015 19: 01
        Quote: Novel 11
        The leadership ... it can’t order officials to transfer millions and billions of bribes to foreign banks!

        Ufff ...

        - kindergarten, middle group
        - "overnight mowed down our ranks"

        In general - a cool phrase .. In granite !!
        1. +1
          31 July 2015 21: 17
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          Ufff ...

          - kindergarten, middle group
          - "overnight mowed down our ranks"

          In general - a cool phrase .. In granite !!

          Listen, the governor of Sakhalin took 6 green lemons, we do not know from what time, maybe after the 11th warning ..... What do you think this money will go through the Sberbank? Of course, through the local affiliate, where there is less control. In large ones they scan in a different way, so often the licenses are taken away from the little things, mostly they are pumped out through them ... And due to corruption, in our city, the mayor was removed, then his deputy took a bribe, his hand ... so he let the prosecutor suggest - absolutely sbryandil) What did you think? And the former governor promoted the mayor after this scandal - to steer the regional pension fund. In his place came the mayor-communist, who soon, for a bribe of 3 lemons from ours (on YouTube, if you are interested, watch the video of how the mayor Potapov gets a bribe during arrest) went to prison. A new governor has arrived, let's reassure the public, they say everything will be fine, but he himself thundered in the spring of last year for exceeding (I don’t even want to describe which one) Putin wrote so, the governor of Novosibirsk, Yurchenko, lost his confidence)) Probably Serdyukov with his eyes closed - and there billions from the defense service and the funds did not go through VTB, I suppose. We have neighbors here recently sued, where the lawyer defender of the "victims" turned out to be demoted by the judge for bribes, instead of the zone she was slightly lowered. And the court was completely humane and right - the accused turned out to be a grandmother in the 7th decade)) The victim - the wife of a redneck (a member of an organized crime group, previously convicted), was dragged to the court by a district police officer. The grandmother got to the hospital, was treated, in her absence the court demanded 26 thousand from her pension in absentia for a burned bruise) They say the grandmother is grumpy, although the neighbors lived 40 under the same roof and at one time even housed their family and this former albes when the father was a drunken rowdy. What are you, now are such interesting times, you will not want to see enough then to think.
          1. 0
            31 July 2015 23: 13
            Quote: Novel 11
            such interesting times now

            I agree. But more recently - they were even more interesting ..

            Quote: Novel 11
            then you don't want to see enough

            Um .. no offense .. or maybe not? So that Honduras does not bother?

            Roman, you have such a mixture of grandmothers, singed bruises, goons, governors, "sponsored" banks, Putin ..

            Explicit search. Do not torture yourself like that.

            IMHO.
            1. +1
              1 August 2015 09: 33
              Quote: Cat Man Null
              Roman, you have such a mixture of grandmothers, singed bruises, goons, governors, "sponsored" banks, Putin ..

              Explicit search. Do not torture yourself like that.

              This is difficult to explain - you did not live in order, when human malice was hidden under the bounds of decency, and the word man was written with a larger letter than now. Yes, I don’t have the conscience to sue an elderly pensioner because of petty squabbles, resorting to various tricks ....... Speak not to torment yourself, but a person is not an animal, he can live within the corridor. If they are erased, then what happens is now in an independent, then what happened in 1905-07, then in 1917-22, in 1991-93 ...... Do not believe me? Open the historical map of Russia and look at the borders of 1913, 1991 and today - before their change there was also a rush of liberalism, the loss of values, the cult of strength and rudeness, the weakening of order.
              1. +2
                1 August 2015 10: 14
                Quote: Novel 11
                you did not live in order, when human malice was hidden under the bounds of decency, and the word man was written with a larger letter than now.

                Lived, I feel good for fifty dollars now ..

                Quote: Novel 11
                man is not an animal, he can live within the boundaries of the corridor

                Man is an animal, by definition, and predatory.

                To live (as a man) he can only within the "corridor boundaries":

                Only real, full-sized power can clamp a person so that he throws his real habits and begins to go to work in a tie, obey his mother-in-law, and do other necessary nonsense.

                At times when power is weakening, society naturally grows brutal. We recall our 90s, look at Ukraine now.

                Therefore - I repeat - I would not turn on like that. "Lord, give me the strength to change what I can change. Give me patience to accept what I cannot change. And give me wisdom to distinguish one from the other."

                Something like that.
      2. -8
        31 July 2015 20: 35
        Quote: Novel 11
        The manual is not stupid, of course, and understands everything perfectly. But there are doubts that a lot depends on him ....... after all, she cannot order officials to transfer millions and billions of bribes to foreign banks to cancel!

        It’s hard how, it’s interesting how in other countries they deal with this?
        Quote: Novel 11
        So far, one thing is clear that we will not go for a long course, if something else falls well on oil, then something will change.

        Why something? the ruble will change hi , first 60 for a green candy wrapper, then apparently for 80 hi
    2. 0
      2 August 2015 05: 24
      so like Delyagin and Glazyev offer ..
  10. 0
    31 July 2015 14: 56
    Interestingly, a debt of 900% of GDP is then 9 kilometers deep?
    Search engines bottom and crisis in Russia, you at least once look in a circle !!
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    2. +2
      31 July 2015 15: 05
      What does the national debt have to do with ???
      In 1992, he was at about the same level as now.
      And after 6 years, a DEFAULT happened.
      So there is no need to tell tales about the "decaying West" here.
      Let's take a look at ourselves.
      1. +3
        31 July 2015 15: 18
        laughing you would recall 91 and 93)) it was not a default on debts it was privatization) January 1992 - price liberalization, hyperinflation, the beginning of voucher privatization.
        That is, they decided to sell the country! Well, the same ones as the author of the article wrote that everything is bad and everything needs to be sold) The real default was 98! Everything else is our liberals did the market!
        1. +1
          31 July 2015 19: 08
          Quote: MolGro
          you would still remember 91 and 93))

          I clearly remember those times, there is so much crime, production hardly breathes, people are scared and hungry. New ties were not established, then financial pyramids, in short, something from revolutionary times.
      2. -2
        31 July 2015 15: 43
        Quote: Colorado
        What does the national debt have to do with ???

        How? In the US, 17 trillion (100% of GDP) --- You just destroy the basics of propaganda
        Quote: Colorado
        In 1992, he was at about the same level as now.
        And after 6 years, a DEFAULT happened.

        Don't tell anyone about it.
        Quote: Colorado
        So there is no need to tell tales about the "decaying West" here.

        This is not a fairy tale, it is a rotting pederast-ropa, which today, tomorrow, will be bent along with all its debts and sexual minorities.
        1. +4
          31 July 2015 19: 17
          Quote: atalef
          In the US, 17 trillion (100% of GDP)

          They will write it off with a light hand, and they will not blow it into a mustache)) And they will tell us nothing lasts forever under the moonlight - debt cannot constantly grow. And the fact that they bought bonds, so no one forced them ........ Another thing is that our Central Bank understands everything perfectly, and if it doesn’t buy greenback and bonds along with others, then on the planet earth will glance at the capitalist society with a smile 1917th year !! And he will say that you did not wait for me, and I myself come without demand, the more so a warning shot was in 2007-2008!
          1. -4
            31 July 2015 20: 41
            Quote: Novel 11
            Another thing is that our Central Bank understands everything perfectly, and if it does not buy green stuff

            That will not smear her forehead with anyone, which means there is nothing to fear
            Quote: Novel 11
            then on planet earth the capitalist society will peek with a smile the 1917th year !!

            In which they again hear the immortal phrase of V.I. Lenin
            -The collapse of capitalism is inevitable
            Quote: Novel 11
            And he will say you did not wait for me, and I myself come without demand, the more warning shot was in 2007-2008!

            Dmitry Anatolevich Medvedev Third President of the Russian Federation (2008-2012).

            What's again ?
      3. +1
        31 July 2015 19: 03
        Quote: Colorado
        So there is no need to tell tales about the "decaying West" here.

        But it is not very blooming. Rather cyclical.
    3. -1
      31 July 2015 15: 41
      Quote: MolGro
      Interestingly, a debt of 900% of GDP is then 9 kilometers deep?
      Search engines bottom and crisis in Russia, you at least once look in a circle !!

      A wonderful table, where is the United States with 100% of GDP, but nevertheless, following your logic, the standard of living in Russia should be 10 times better than in the UK (debt 357% of GDP)
      1. +1
        31 July 2015 17: 15
        We didn’t figure out a bit about the flow of funds laughing I will help you understand common truth ... yes, yes ...
        Let's start with the geometric dimensions of countries, the smaller in size, the less means to maintain infrastructure ...
        The second point is the climatic conditions, the higher the average annual temperature, the lower the cost of maintaining life ... By the way, do you pay for heating in Israel? laughing
        And as for whether the west will bend - no doubt laughing , and soon ... There are no corny resources tongue , but the type of "buy" is no longer very successful, and the further the worse ... the question is a maximum of 10 years, even with a reduction in consumerism ... Will they pull a new arms race? Let them try and "the kingdom of heaven" to catch up laughing
        Like a Jew, you simply must know what requirements the BG set for existence on this planet, how it should relate to His Gifts ... Whoever does not understand, he laughing
        1. -1
          31 July 2015 17: 26
          Quote: demon is ada
          Let's start with the geometric dimensions of countries, the smaller in size, the less means to maintain infrastructure ...

          Don't tell Canada or the US

          Quote: demon is ada
          The second point is climatic conditions, the higher the average annual temperature, the lower the cost of maintaining life.

          Yeah
          Quote: demon is ada
          . By the way, do you pay for heating in Israel?

          And for the cooling? Or will you live without an air conditioner?
          I sometimes have consumption reaches 2000 kilowatts per month (250 bucks), it should cost, continue? And so 7 months a year, well, in winter (oddly enough) but the same air conditioning must be heated

          Quote: demon is ada
          And as for whether the west will bend - no doubt, and soon

          The collapse of capitalism is inevitable - V. I. LENIN

          I know, Lenin wrote about this 100 years ago
          Quote: demon is ada
          ... There are no trite resources, but the "buy" type is no longer very successful

          I mean, it’s not very good to sell
          Oil becomes cheaper due to oversupply in the market
          Investors fear that oil companies from the Middle East and the United States will continue to increase oil supplies in the world market. According to estimates by South Oil Co., oil exports from southern Iraq in July increased to 3,064 million barrels per day and will remain at that level until the end of the month. In June, the figure was 3,02 million barrels.

          Quote: demon is ada
          Will the new arms race be pulled? Let them try and "the kingdom of heaven" to catch up

          Who are you talking about?
          Quote: demon is ada
          Taki like a Jew

          hi Thank you with a capital letter
          Quote: demon is ada
          you simply must know what requirements the BG set for existence on this planet

          We, of course, are a chosen people, but he doesn’t share with me specifically
          Quote: demon is ada
          how to relate to His Gifts ... He who does not understand, he

          Well, someone gave the oil, someone no hi
          1. 0
            31 July 2015 19: 41
            Quote: atalef
            but it is necessary to heat the same and the same air conditioning

            Do you have a heat pump? You live well. Here they are expensive, and therefore do not make sense.
          2. 0
            1 August 2015 02: 12
            Quote: atalef
            Don't tell Canada or the US

            Canada - Mandobosh on the pubis of the mattress laughing , Israel is almost the same, but there is your radish in Voronezh ... but there is no "great" Canada ... tongue
            Matrasia has the production of image and cut green paper mainly ... so that digital numbers can be any according to their desire, and the better they have, the worse you laughing ... dialectically materialism however ...
            Quote: atalef
            And for the cooling? Or will you live without an air conditioner?
            I sometimes have consumption reaches 2000 kilowatts per month (250 bucks), it should cost, continue? And so 7 months a year, well, in winter (oddly enough) but the same air conditioning must be heated

            So I’m talking about the same thing ... wastefully you relate to the Gifts ... although there is no mind ... 2000 kW on condition? wassat Have you tried other energy saving techniques? I can tell if that ... but not for nothing, it’s enough that you don’t appreciate Gifts for free ...
            Quote: atalef
            Well, someone gave the oil, someone no

            Do you want oil in exchange for oxygen? For free ??? belay Already being sold in full ... see me radishes soon not see ... crying
            Regarding Jewry and other things, including your way of thinking, you’ll have to write an article ... although it’s somehow not so much about religion on a military site ... but if you understand, you can use it as a weapon and intelligence ... whatever to survive ...
    4. -1
      31 July 2015 16: 03
      The data is already old, Russia now has PPP GDP of almost 4 trillion dollars, a population of 146 and a half million people, imports of less than 300 billion.
      1. 0
        31 July 2015 19: 24
        Quote: Vadim237
        The data is already old, Russia now has PPP GDP of almost 4 trillion dollars, a population of 146 and a half million people, imports of less than 300 billion.

        Where does the data come from?
    5. +3
      31 July 2015 16: 18
      Quote: MolGro
      interesting debt at 900% gdp
      Not 900, but 90.

      You better ask why in Europe the budget is 43.6% of GDP, and in the Russian Federation only 20.8.
      1. -1
        31 July 2015 16: 33
        Quote: Uncle Joe
        You better ask why in Europe the budget is 43.6% of GDP, and in the Russian Federation only 20.8.

        Taxes are different (yes actually) I'm sorry, your answer is the same
        Yes, neither the average temperature in the hospital
        1. +5
          31 July 2015 18: 03
          Quote: atalef
          Different taxes
          And they are going, and even without oil and gas laughing

          the answer is the same
          It’s quite about what, namely, in whose interests the leadership of the Russian Federation is working.
  11. -3
    31 July 2015 14: 56
    another "lost"
  12. +12
    31 July 2015 15: 07
    Well, now the seething of shit will begin with screams and persecutions against the "proponents" from part of the population of "UNasVseZashibis" ...
    The article is definitely a plus, as a means to action, it does not give anything, but causes itching for "UNasVseZashibis" ...
    In the country with the imposition of sanctions, 20 months have passed, and things are still there. There is a saying in companies, if a person on a trial period didn’t do anything within 2 weeks, then you can not wait a period of three months to fire him, because the result will always be the same from his activity, i.e. zero...
    As I said a year ago, that there will be neither what, nor what neither. Not everyone expects changes from those ...
  13. +5
    31 July 2015 15: 09
    I understand that we will survive, but when all the same there will be global changes in the development of the country from all that I see is global and changed (as we ourselves promised here in the World War) after the announcement of the sanctions war on us, this is an increase in prices for gasoline products and, in principle, for everything plus currency growth.
    1. -2
      31 July 2015 15: 46
      Quote: nemec55
      After the announcement of the sanctions war on us, this is a rise in prices for gasoline products and, in principle, for everything plus a rise in currency.

      Well, rising prices for Products (In response to sanctions against Rutenberg and Timchenko) in response, they transferred businesses to children - they also imposed sanctions against them
      it seems to me that they will go up in price - offal.
    2. -4
      31 July 2015 16: 05
      In the development of the country, everything is going fine, factories and factories are opening, and the fact that there is not enough money is not only with us, it is all over the world.
      1. 0
        31 July 2015 16: 34
        Quote: Vadim237
        In the development of the country, everything is going fine, factories and factories are opening, and the fact that there is not enough money is not only with us, it is all over the world.

        Well, yes, ask someone - Do you have enough money?
        Anyone will answer
        -No laughing
        1. 0
          31 July 2015 16: 47
          How many do not give to a man, he will not be enough anyway.
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          2. +3
            31 July 2015 22: 18
            "No matter how much you give a man, it will not be enough for him."

            True, everything is relative.
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        3. -1
          31 July 2015 22: 20
          "Well, yes, who ask - Do you have enough money?
          Anyone will answer
          -No laughing "

          I would also add among the inhabitants of the promised land.
          1. -2
            31 July 2015 22: 24
            Quote: navigator
            "Well, yes, who ask - Do you have enough money?
            Anyone will answer
            -No laughing "

            I would also add among the inhabitants of the promised land.

            Do you have enough?
            Glad for you, I won’t lie
            Everything is small and small.
            1. +1
              31 July 2015 22: 32
              "Are you enough?
              Glad for you, I won’t lie
              Everything, little and little. "

              And I'm glad that you are happy for me. And I will regret you a little bit, it will make you feel better. Yes
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  14. -3
    31 July 2015 15: 11
    All those who are a little familiar with history now see direct parallels with the years of industrialization. All the same - the lack of time, the need to mobilize society, sabotage and opposition from the "fifth column". In addition, the threat from the outside is much more dangerous than in the early 30s. To effectively act on two fronts (external and internal) you need to be Stalin. With all due respect, Putin is not Stalin. and he solves problems one by one, due to his possibilities. Now the main threat is from the outside. In my opinion, it is being solved correctly. When it disappears, it will be possible to tackle the Vlasovs, Penkovskys, Gordievskys, Kalugins, Bakatins and others like them.
    1. +7
      31 July 2015 15: 16
      I’ll tell you a secret, the threat from the outside will never disappear, it can only be reduced by a strong army based on the capabilities and size of the economy. A spiral, we need an army to defend ourselves, and then we will develop a scanty economy - just crazy. Either the economy and the army develop together supporting each other, well, or government liberals, one of them merges, and the second falls apart with the advent of the occupation government, an example of the USSR ...
    2. -5
      31 July 2015 15: 48
      Quote: beer-youk
      Everyone who is a little familiar with history now sees direct parallels with the years of industrialization. All the same - the lack of time, the need to mobilize society, sabotage and opposition from the "fifth column". In addition, the threat from the outside is much more dangerous than in the early 30s.

      Of course then there were no sanctions and the young USSR bought industry in the west with factories (in exchange for expropriated values ​​and objects of art)
      Now there is no one to sell.
      1. MrK
        0
        1 August 2015 00: 53
        atalef. Just don’t need to tell (3,14 a joke) small-town bikes about objects of art.
        1. 0
          2 August 2015 12: 13
          Well, type in a search engine a friend of Russia, Arvid Hammer, and see how many Hermitage has been taken out of the country. And if you add to this how many buckets with diamonds and tons of gold were spent on the maintenance of the Comintern, you will be surprised. That's why Stalin shot (and did the right thing) all the Comintern parasites.
    3. +2
      31 July 2015 16: 33
      Quote: beer-youk
      who are a little familiar with history, now see direct parallels with the years of industrialization,

      I agree completely. hi
      Quote: beer-youk
      the need to mobilize society

      Yes, yes. Necessary. The only question is: what methods? I am for the toughest ...
      1. +1
        31 July 2015 19: 37
        Quote: Angry Guerrilla
        The only question is: what methods? I am for the toughest ...

        We went through the shooting in 1917-1922 and 1937-1938 ...... smelly bourgeois seem to do without it, although they have so few resources! Or am I mistaken somewhere?
        1. 0
          2 August 2015 12: 15
          You are mistaken, mistaken. And the bill, like in China, on the cartridges spent in a family during the shooting.
  15. +8
    31 July 2015 15: 12
    Our Government, headed by DAM, must be parachuted behind enemy lines as weapons of mass destruction. Except for a couple of ministers.
    1. +4
      31 July 2015 16: 21
      Quote: Corporal Valera
      Our Government, headed by DAM, must be parachuted behind enemy lines as weapons of mass destruction. Except for a couple of ministers.
      And the government of 2008-2012?
      1. -2
        31 July 2015 16: 35
        Quote: Uncle Joe
        government of 2008-2012?

        What could it do? Medvedev was the president, he decided everything.
        1. +7
          31 July 2015 18: 05
          Quote: atalef
          What could it do? Medvedev was the president, he decided everything.
          What can it do now? Putin is now president, he decides everything. wassat
      2. -3
        1 August 2015 00: 28
        I would leave Volodya. One hope for him
        1. +5
          1 August 2015 00: 33
          Quote: Corporal Valera
          One hope for him

          come on belay
        2. 0
          1 August 2015 02: 09
          Quote: Corporal Valera
          would leave
          Swineherd?
        3. 0
          2 August 2015 12: 17
          No no no. Died, so died .... All so all. and he gives birth to new presidents.
    2. MrK
      +5
      1 August 2015 00: 55
      Correct Corporal. The director of the Galkinskoye agricultural enterprise, Vasily Melnichenko, speaking at the Moscow Economic Forum, said: “OUR GOVERNMENT IS LIKE SMALL CHILDREN: UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING, FEEL EVERYTHING, AND HOW TO ... WON'T REPLAIN.”
      1. 0
        1 August 2015 09: 51
        Quote: mrark
        OUR GOVERNMENT IS HOW SMALL CHILDREN ARE: UNDERSTAND EVERYONE, UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING, AND HOW ... DO NOT ASK FOR FORM. ”

        ))))))))) And the country will crumble, they will not ask too ??
      2. +2
        1 August 2015 10: 00
        Quote: mrark
        “OUR GOVERNMENT IS HOW SMALL CHILDREN ARE: UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING, FEEL EVERYTHING, AND HOW ... DO NOT ASK FOR A KATH.”

        And (as I understand it) they always make pants. laughing
      3. 0
        2 August 2015 12: 19
        Vaught, the candidate for president. From plows and with brains.
  16. +7
    31 July 2015 15: 16
    Nothing. The people have no money for food, 1/6 of the population is below the poverty line, and Putin and Medvedev will issue and sign decrees on the destruction of sanctioned products "by any means."
    https://news.yandex.ru/yandsearch?cl4url=top.rbc.ru/economics/31/07/2015/55bb42a


    29a7947551217ba9c & lang = ru & lr = 213
    Our rulers live on the moon or in the matrix. The lower classes are patient, but at the top the roof has completely gone.
    1. 0
      31 July 2015 15: 21
      I understand that it is envious of you to look at this in Ukraine, well, offer Lithuanians and Latvians there to deliver products to Russia, with their destruction in your territory. You have there Yaytsenyuh smart, he can somehow infect with this independent idea, almost Svidomo Balts ...
      1. +6
        31 July 2015 15: 30
        And why did you decide that I am from Ukraine. I am Russian and live in Russia. And it’s wild to me when products are simply destroyed, knowing how poorly the main population of Russia lives.
        1. -1
          31 July 2015 16: 12
          These products have expired, but we don’t have to talk about the quality of food products that Europe used to throw us in, and if you want to pickle these products further, then please, who is bothering you.
          1. 0
            1 August 2015 09: 58
            Quote: Vadim237
            These products

            And GMOs !!
        2. 0
          1 August 2015 09: 55
          Quote: sds87
          And it’s wild to me when products are simply destroyed, knowing how poorly the main population of Russia lives.

          It’s also wild to me how such a country can’t provide itself with food ......... as many territories are empty, you can grow and grow and fill up half of Europe with food.
    2. +3
      31 July 2015 15: 49
      Quote: sds87
      Nothing. The people have no money for food, 1/6 of the population is below the poverty line, and Putin and Medvedev will issue and sign decrees on the destruction of sanctioned products "by any means."

      Everything will rise in price again
      Quote: sds87
      On the moon or in the matrix, our rulers live

      Well, Putin said that he does not know what his salary is. laughing
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      2. 0
        1 August 2015 09: 33
        "Well, Putin said that he doesn't know what his salary is laughing."

        Yes, and it happens like this:
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  17. +8
    31 July 2015 15: 24
    News. The ruble is weakening, the mat is getting stronger.
    1. -3
      31 July 2015 15: 54
      Quote: Vladimir1960
      News. The ruble is weakening, the mat is getting stronger.

      Of course, the central bank lowered the interest rate and even trying to stop buying dollars didn’t change (so, in general, as it were, buying Central Bank dollars would lead to a weakening ruble)
  18. +7
    31 July 2015 15: 24
    That's right, I also want to add I see how the standard of living of ordinary people is rapidly falling and our whole life is becoming more expensive, it’s just a crime not to carry out reforms, I was always sure that if anything could “break” Russia, then only we ourselves and the enemy are not needed, but the crisis is really brewing and those who think that calm down, everything will return, are very mistaken
  19. +6
    31 July 2015 15: 28
    A pessimist is a well-informed optimist.
  20. -1
    31 July 2015 15: 33
    The fact that the liberals are to blame .. is understandable. And then what ... what to do? not to officials ... but to us .. simple workers .. doctors and teachers? and then all these percentages..votality ... Another empty article about that..that everything is bad. But what really needs to be done..not Putin and Medvedev (who do not come here or anywhere else..they have their own "authoritative" advisers) .. but ordinary citizens..not words. Already how many such abstruse articles about the economy have come out ... but REAL, the same abstruse proposals never.
    1. -4
      31 July 2015 16: 07
      Quote: Alexander S.
      what the liberals are to blame for ... it's understandable. And then what ... what to do?

      Plant liberals
      Quote: Alexander S.
      But what really needs to be done ... not Putin and Medvedev (who do not come here or anywhere else ... they have their own "authoritative" advisers) ... but ordinary citizens ... no words

      Believe the old Jew - buy dollars (just not gold - pliz) - save about the little that is hi
    2. 0
      31 July 2015 16: 15
      Slowly create and develop your business.
      1. +3
        31 July 2015 21: 31
        Quote: Vadim237
        Slowly create and develop your business.

        Share your experience?
    3. +5
      31 July 2015 17: 11
      He (Putin) has Glazyev in his advisers, so what? Nothing is taken into account from what he advises. As a result, Glazyev has already begun to write to all authorities and the media. Danichy, as they stole, they steal, as the cooperative "LAKE" ruled, grabbing all orders in one mug, and it rules, as the liberals with the roof of the guarantor tug at us, and it remains. What other "REAL" offers are needed when in the eyes his advisers say to the guarantor, they write in the media, people send them in letters, so what? Big and fat for all this. Only dogs, and gives birds to children.
  21. +3
    31 July 2015 15: 48
    "They'll knock from below in the fall!" And they won't even hinder that! Maybe they will even be encouraged .. After all, this is what the policy of the ruling liberals is designed for, feeding on the hands of international (read American) business. After all, the main task is to overthrow Putin and change the socio-political system in Russia. And in what ways and ways - it is completely indifferent! The only question is - where are the State security bodies looking ??? Although they are also run by liberals ....
    1. +3
      31 July 2015 16: 10
      Quote: ibu355yandex.ru
      After all, the main task is to overthrow Putin and change the socio-political system in Russia

      And what is the system in Russia now?
      Quote: ibu355yandex.ru
      The only question is where do the state security agencies look?

      Well, one of the parties
      Representatives of the top leadership of the FSB, including the current head of the service Alexander Bortnikov, acquired land in the elite district of Moscow near the presidential residence Novo-Ogarevo on Rublevka, after which they sold them for millions of dollars, according to an investigation by Novaya Gazeta, published on Monday ...
      We are talking about deals around the former recreation camp for children of KGB employees "Object N909" in the village of Kalchuga near Rublevo-Uspenskoe highway in the Odintsovo district of the Moscow region. According to Novaya Gazeta, land in the elite district with a total area of ​​3,8 hectares was vacated in 2005, when the kindergarten was closed in agreement with the FSB by decree of Prime Minister Mikhail Fradkov (now head of the Foreign Intelligence Service).

      Quote: ibu355yandex.ru
      Although they are also ruled by liberals ....

      Listen to you, so the only one who is Leberast is Putin. hard for him crying
    2. +3
      31 July 2015 16: 13
      Quote: ibu355yandex.ru
      and change the socio-political system in Russia.

      from which to which?
      Quote: ibu355yandex.ru
      Although they are also ruled by liberals ....

      trends of eras: counter, spies, pests, enemies of the people, genetics, revisionists ... and, finally,
      Quote: ibu355yandex.ru
      liberals ....
      1. +2
        31 July 2015 19: 46
        Quote: U-47
        from which to which?

        Well, like Carlson changed wet socks.
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    4. +2
      31 July 2015 16: 42
      Quote: ibu355yandex.ru
      After all, the policy of the ruling liberals who are feeding from the hands of international (read American) business is designed for this. After all, the main task is to overthrow Putin and change the socio-political system in Russia.
      It seems that the deputies are elected by the people, and the president appoints or confirms the rest - who are the ruling liberals, how can they solve their main task, and what system are they going to change the current oligarchic capitalism?
    5. +1
      31 July 2015 16: 53
      And do not list the people in the government who feed from the hands of international business.
      1. +4
        31 July 2015 17: 07
        Quote: Vadim237
        And do not list the people in the government who feed from the hands of international business.

        Let's start (as always) with Medvedev
        1. +1
          31 July 2015 17: 30
          What are you, and what kind of foreign business does Medvedev feed him?
          1. 0
            31 July 2015 17: 38
            Quote: Vadim237
            What are you, and what kind of foreign business does Medvedev feed him

            Animal feed production. laughing
            1. -2
              31 July 2015 18: 04
              What is the name of the feed manufacturer?
            2. 0
              31 July 2015 20: 25
              Quote: atalef
              Animal feed production. laughing

              Sasha, what kind of production, I took the bull from the first-calf, well, milk in the spring, then to the meadow, next to the house, a small meadow, twenty hectares laughing , by November, I’ll slaughter him, Bo lets him in, let it be a terrible car belay
            3. +2
              31 July 2015 20: 55
              Quote: atalef
              Quote: Vadim237
              What are you, and what kind of foreign business does Medvedev feed him

              Animal feed production. laughing

              Quote: Vadim237
              What is the name of the feed manufacturer?

              stars do not favor a sense of humor today ....
              1. 0
                31 July 2015 21: 42
                Quote: U-47
                stars do not favor a sense of humor today ....

                So, they sell, I figured, if with this money, I’m stupidly buying meat, I’ll win a half times what
          2. 0
            2 August 2015 12: 35
            Yes, there are two brothers - acrobats with criminal faces, who squeezed 80% of the forest business in Russia thanks to the DAM. And the LADIES they have in the sixes of the "lawyer" type is hanging around.
  22. +6
    31 July 2015 15: 48
    The author is more likely right than wrong. as far as he owns all the information, he is right. From developed countries, only in RFii such credit interest is -20-40 !!! This is with our wealth !!! At first, I believed the stories from the Kremlin about "macroeconomic indicators" and other fuin. But with the advent of the Internet to the broad masses, you begin to understand that you are simply being bred by the Kremlin "economists". Long ago I realized that the power is traitors to the Russian people, or rather its enemies. There is a very cunning policy. Politics, after all, does not tolerate straight lines at all. The main thing is what points will connect these curves and pro-straight lines. The patriarch said that we have never lived as well before as we do now .. Let's not forget that the word president comes from the word Resident. What is a resident? We know from spy novels that a resident is an official carrying out the task of the Center, and in another state. In our case, you just need to clarify where the Center is located? Now a policy is being pursued that, in principle, does not lead to prospects. Moreover, it is not even clear who is the boss in the Russian Federation, who rules us? I have at least someone who can answer this question. That's when we find out about his answer, then we can evaluate the article.
    1. +2
      31 July 2015 16: 15
      Quote: htlernjh
      the second is rather right than wrong. as far as he possesses the entirety of the information, so he is right. From developed countries, only in the Russian Federation such loan interest is -20-40!

      Not only Zimbabwe is much worse
      Quote: htlernjh
      It is with our wealth!

      In Zimbabwe - the same amount of natural resources is enough
      Quote: htlernjh
      But with the advent of the Internet to the broad masses, you begin to understand that you are simply being bred by the Kremlin "economists".

      Yes you what belay angry
      Quote: htlernjh
      Patriarch said that we have never lived so well before, as now

      Judging by his watch - he knows what he’s talking about laughing
      And tomorrow it will be even better (I’m a little ahead of the patriarch)

      Quote: htlernjh
      Who is a resident? From espionage novels, we know that a resident is an official performing the task of the Center, and in another state

      i.e. is the president a resident in the letter P?

      Quote: htlernjh
      And it’s not even clear who is the boss in the Russian Federation? Who rules us ?. At least someone can answer this question.

      well, just like in a joke
      Entrance exams at some metropolitan university.
      The exam in history is taken by a gray-haired professor, an entrant of prihamamsa
      from the province.

      Tell me, young man, about the Great October Socialist Revolution.
      A shadow of thought seemed to run through the face of the applicant, after which he again
      silently stared with clear eyes at the professor.
      - Well, you don’t know anything about the Great October Socialist
      Revolution? !!
      - Nah - finally threw out the abitur.
      “Well, names like Marx, Engels, are they saying anything to you?”
      - Well no.
      - Well, Lenin, did you hear the name of Lenin?
      - did not hear
      - But where are you from? !!
      - From Uryupinsk.

      The professor gets up, walks to the window, wiping his glasses. And dreamily
      looking into the distance, he says to himself:
      - Oh, to drop everything, but wave to Uryupinsk!

      Okay, I'll tell you.
      In to Putin. hi
      1. +1
        31 July 2015 19: 49
        Quote: atalef
        i.e. is the president a resident in the letter P?

        Like, and he too ??? belay
    2. -1
      2 August 2015 12: 48
      The world is ruled by two competing Rothschild and Rockefeller clans. So the Rockefellers own the Fed (i.e. print dollars) and are tightly tied to the US economy. The Rothschilds, having withdrawn their gold reserves from US banks, placed them in Shanghai. Both Brix and Schos are a product of Rothschild's work. Somehow so primitive and tongue-tied.
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  24. +4
    31 July 2015 16: 28
    Russia at the bottom. Autumn knock bottom
    Is it really from Ukraine? what
  25. 0
    31 July 2015 16: 28
    "Who rules us?" ...
    A difficult question.
    There are those who are believed to rule the country, and not they rule.
    There are those who would really rule, but rule them.
    There are those who are not considered to rule, but they rule.
    There are those who do not rule, but do everything to rule.
    So we have what we have.
    If in the country, instead of these four parts, there was one body that should rule, and really rule, and would be considered ruling, then there would be order in the country.
  26. +5
    31 July 2015 16: 44
    I would like to hear the comments of b..day, who are driving the Central Bank - what has affected the ruble exchange rate this time? and where are their comments 2 weeks ago that the ruble has stabilized and there will be no shocks? Interestingly, a 2% rate collapsed in 25 weeks - is this not considered a shock today?
    1. 0
      31 July 2015 17: 10
      Quote: Jackking
      I would like to hear the comments of b..day, who are driving the Central Bank - what has affected the ruble exchange rate this time?

      I certainly do not belong to the priestesses of love, ruling the Central Bank
      But in general - a decrease in the discount rate and a drop in oil prices
      Quote: Jackking
      and where are their comments 2 weeks ago that the ruble has stabilized and there will be no shocks?

      Is this a shock?
      Quote: Jackking
      Interestingly, a 2% rate collapsed in 25 weeks - is this not considered a shock today?

      No, in America it’s worse, she should 17trl.
      1. +3
        31 July 2015 18: 09
        But in general - the interest rate fell after the start of the fall. and lowering the rate is no longer more like deliberate action, but rather of a panic pulling of the levers that come into hand.
        As for the debts of America - I do not consider other people's debts. but you know better - part of this cabbage and you fell, you feed from its table. And no one will write off debts - that’s what the big numbers suggest. What, probably interfere with sleep ??? laughing
    2. +6
      31 July 2015 18: 38
      Mr. Guarantor said that the Central Bank is doing everything right. It means that 1990 rubles for a wrapper, too, according to him, is correct. It follows that serving the economy of our enemies, the US and the EU, our "leaders" under the roof of "our everything" are doing the right thing. and you are all about the people, the country, you say something. The tasks given by the Black Master must be fulfilled.
  27. +7
    31 July 2015 16: 49
    It is difficult to discuss something .... the systemic crisis of capitalism with the country is described in detail in "Capital" by Marx. To say that someone (something) is interfering with the country of the Russian Federation is idiocy. Yes THEY (that is, the profit system and its apologists of all stripes) and interfere. These EDIM RUSSIA and others ... The President is only in their service. And the Peoples, the population is a statistical concept and it has nothing to do with it .... Well, what kind of PEOPLE does Abramovich have or Ernst? from Yakunin or Trutnev? Where is their PEOPLE? They have CAPITALS ....
    1. +2
      31 July 2015 17: 13
      Quote: jungler
      It is difficult to discuss something .... the systemic crisis of capitalism with the country is described in detail in Marx's "Capital"

      Can I link to the original? My friend, I can’t see it from brronevichka

      Quote: jungler
      To say that someone (something) is preventing the country of the Russian Federation is idiocy

      But you are wrong in this, sanctions and oil prices interfere
  28. +6
    31 July 2015 16: 51
    There is very little time left before a social disaster. And the concentration of troops at our borders also ends. And do not consider this a coincidence. It touches the other that financial elites are convinced that they are able to suppress any unrest using forceful methods. Sometimes it seems that they were brainwashed and they forgot the story.
    It may seem strange, but in this situation, first of all, you need to take care of the Strategic Missile Forces. Since it is too late to take political and economic measures. Providing the Strategic Missile Forces with the possibility of delivering preventive strikes against the concentration of troops of the "partners" will provide guarantees of an independent settlement of political issues. And bringing this information to the "partners" is necessary.
    But it is necessary to begin the change in the economic course now, although this will not change the upcoming events. But it will have to be done, and it is better to start immediately. And you need to start not at all with the financial system, but with production infrastructure projects.
    1. 0
      31 July 2015 17: 18
      But it’s better not to get into production infrastructure projects, they will figure it out without us.
      1. 0
        3 August 2015 12: 40
        And who will figure it out? Financial elites? Foreign "partners"?
        Think with your head, no one "is planning to figure it out. Financial elites are only interested in financial transactions. Foreign" partners "with great pleasure will launch missile strikes on the main industrial centers, they are striving for this. That is why we ourselves need to take care of our own industrial infrastructure.
  29. +2
    31 July 2015 17: 09
    Quote: Putin
    Lord, when are these clicks to calm down. We all die, we die, we won’t die at all, and well-wishers can’t calm down. Croak and croak


    So I would set an example by putting my tongue in my ass. Or at least he argued - what Delyagin is wrong in, he, unlike you, speaks about the case ...
    1. -2
      31 July 2015 17: 21
      He says that in the case, he just does not make a nefig.
      1. MrK
        +2
        1 August 2015 00: 58
        But Vadim doesn’t speak on business and doesn’t do a damn
        1. -1
          1 August 2015 10: 37
          I have my own production and I speak on business, but I always do more, there’s nothing to clog our heads with, we have problems in the government, but on the ground.
    2. -5
      31 July 2015 17: 41
      And where is the actual business?
      Quote: Mikhail Delyagin

      Without a radical change in the socio-economic policy, without moving from plundering and destroying the country to its complex creation, we are in for chaos, disorganization and Maidan, which can lead not only to the disintegration of Russia, but also to the destruction of Russian civilization itself.

      Is this your thing? This is demagoguery. No specific suggestions. Continuous criticism. One of the main complaints is that the state does not issue cheap loans. So what did the low refinancing rate lead to, we all remember (although probably except Delyagin), when all loans received from the state went to the dollar and weakened the ruble. And who needs such loans? To the state? Such loans are a direct investment in the US economy, against which Delyagin himself is allegedly actively against. No specific suggestions. Clean chatter and nagging.
  30. +1
    31 July 2015 17: 14
    I would have dispossessed pig-like, this goes ..
    1. 0
      31 July 2015 17: 28
      Quote: sw6513
      I would have dispossessed pig-like, this goes

      Poroshenko?
      1. +1
        31 July 2015 19: 52
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: sw6513
        I would have dispossessed pig-like, this goes

        Poroshenko?
        Yes, even him, there seems to be a factory in Lipetsk.
    2. -1
      31 July 2015 17: 31
      Who's the pig-like?
  31. -6
    31 July 2015 17: 28
    article about nothing
  32. +6
    31 July 2015 17: 29
    The entire leadership of Russia sleeps and sees the country integrated into the global community under the leadership of the dollar, and for me the national policy is aimed at respecting and caring for the people.
    Liberalism is the way to the complete collapse of the country
  33. +4
    31 July 2015 17: 33
    “Perhaps liberals serving global business, including those holding key positions in the government and the Bank of Russia, deliberately strive for such a development of events: it will allow global business to seize all the significant resources of our country almost without costs and quickly dispose of everything it does not need directly. "
    If this happens, our liberals will also be disposed of, according to the principle of the Moor who did his work, the Moor may die.
    Our "elite" poor from birth do not understand this and will not understand. Elite in UTILITY otherwise all khan
    1. -5
      31 July 2015 17: 45
      All the resources of our country are already owned by our campaigns.
      1. +4
        31 July 2015 21: 37
        Quote: Vadim237
        already own our campaigns.

        And ours, whose is it?
        1. 0
          31 July 2015 23: 40
          These are Russian companies.
  34. +6
    31 July 2015 17: 41
    The correctly liberal elite has always sought to serve the West and with all its heart hated and opposed everything that was done for the good of the people
  35. +1
    31 July 2015 18: 06
    Quote: Cat Man Null
    Quote: Colorado
    Try to refute at least ONE paragraph of the article before declaring Delyagin "clickers".

    Refuted a hundred times already .. you don’t want to listen wink

    A counter question to you: name at least one of Delyagin's forecasts that really came true?

    You will not name. Because there are none. From the word "absolutely".

    Here he is, your hero .. although you, the campaign, do not care who, if only "against" laughing

    I just remembered from the movie "On Deribasovskaya ..." There I am against the KGB, here I am against the CIA!
  36. +2
    31 July 2015 18: 13
    Colleagues, let me express my opinion. I believe and even am sure that we have a lot of problems in domestic politics, a lot of things that are not clear. A big problem with the liberals. I will not hide, I support Putin, but sometimes I don’t understand its softness towards the obvious (I’m not afraid of this word) enemies of Russia and some other actions. And yet now the issue of foreign policy is much more serious, which takes up a lot of political and material resources that could be spent on solving internal problems. To be or not to be independent of Russia is the main question now. Eat sausage on your knees, or stand up to the top with a crust of bread and be free. I choose the second. Those who managed to straighten up will be able to kick all the enemies and get sausages and of bread.
    1. +5
      31 July 2015 18: 45
      With such "rulers" - hucksters, freemasons, mediocrities and national traitors, like ours, you will eat a crust of bread on your knees, if they do not interrupt us on the orders of the West, about which the whole EU and the USA have been chatting for a long time.
    2. +8
      31 July 2015 20: 17
      The main enemies are already in Russia in the government. Harm the people like no Obama dreamed of Merekel. And you support Putin when he himself has repeatedly claimed that he is a liberal. Yes, and Putin himself recently said that he was pleased with the work of the government. Enough to shield Putin - he is led by the liberals. He is the head.
      1. -1
        31 July 2015 20: 27
        Quote: sds87
        The main enemies are already in Russia in the government. Harm people like no Obama dreamed of Merekel

        Compare with the 90s, look at the dynamics .. wonder belay

        Quote: sds87
        And you support Putin when he himself has repeatedly claimed that he is a liberal

        "The bolt is written on the fence, and there is firewood."

        In many respects, thanks to the arrival of Putin, it was not possible to break up the Russian Federation into its components (and by the way, you will be surprised).

        Largely thanks to the same Putin, the Russian Federation preserved the army and some kind of industry.

        "Liberal"? Yes Yes..

        Quote: sds87
        Putin himself recently said that he was pleased with the work of the government.

        ... in the context of "isn't it time to dismiss the government", yes .. until, apparently, it's not time .. the time has not come yet.

        Quote: sds87
        he is led by the liberals. He is the head.

        Well, you know better, of course ..
        1. +5
          31 July 2015 22: 00
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          Compare with the 90s, look at the dynamics .. wonder
          Why are you surprised?

          Nothing conceptually changed, and the situation when a person 20 years ago had a salary of 2000 and there was no car, and today a salary of 40000 and a car is, is not a consequence of the actions of the state, but of the actions of the person himself (who grows professionally and tries to live as best as possible) and those who want to make money on car sales and loans.

          "The bolt is written on the fence, and there is firewood"
          So Putin is lying?

          In many respects, thanks to the advent of Putin, it was not possible to break up the Russian Federation into its components (and by the way, you will be surprised)
          I was surprised. And what are the signs that what was going on?

          Largely thanks to the same Putin, the Russian Federation preserved the army and some kind of industry
          They began to engage in the army after 2008 (before that, only talk), only production, primary processing of resources and the fuel and energy complex are developing from industry (but it brings quick money - Putin, then what time?)

          in the context of "is it time to dismiss the government
          Are you his part-time translator? smile

          Well, you know better, of course ..
          And you do not know that he is the head of state?
          1. 0
            31 July 2015 22: 22
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            Largely thanks to the same Putin, the Russian Federation preserved the army and some kind of industry.

            Quote: Cat Man Null
            In many respects, thanks to the arrival of Putin, it was not possible to disintegrate the Russian Federation into its components (and to that end, you will surprise

            Thanks to Putin, we met Medvedev and his liberal government
          2. 0
            31 July 2015 23: 03
            Oh what people!

            Quote: Uncle Joe, atalef

            fellow

            Quote: Uncle Joe
            Conceptually nothing has changed

            Since the term "conceptually" is not defined, I will say this: life has become calmer and more predictable .. for me personally, this is very important.

            Quote: atalef
            Thanks to Putin, we met Medvedev and his liberal government

            "Not you, but we .." (c) "Operation Y"

            Quote: Uncle Joe
            So Putin is lying?

            Ah ah ah...

            Uncle Joe, a politician who always tells the whole truth, lives poorly and not for long.

            You don’t have to lie, you can - not say anything, shift the emphasis ... well, do you not know laughing

            Quote: Uncle Joe
            I was surprised. And what are the signs that what was going on?

            What for? If you have not noticed - your happiness ..

            Quote: Uncle Joe
            They began to engage in the army after 2008 (before that, only talk),

            ... without these "conversations" there would be no further actions ..

            Quote: Uncle Joe
            only production, primary processing of resources and fuel and energy complex develops from industry

            For example: I often visit the city of Korolev (Korolev, in fact). This is such a "space" town in Zamkadye wink

            So here, the enterprises localized there have come to life, oddly enough, and are working. Remembering the 90s (and I myself worked there until the 97th) - the difference .. noticeable Yes

            Quote: Uncle Joe
            What time is Putin here?

            Yes, really .. what? request

            Something like that..
            1. +4
              1 August 2015 00: 50
              Quote: Cat Man Null
              for me personally it is very important
              And very subjective.

              In the 90s:
              a course was taken to enter the international division of labor, to establish the Russian Federation as part of the world economy with the function of a gas station - it has not changed;
              the course for privatization was taken - it has not changed;
              the course was taken to commercialize the social sphere - it has not changed.

              And so on and so forth - "Russia will remain a market liberal economy" (V. Putin)

              a politician who always tells the whole truth
              In any case, recognized by business.

              "In order to stabilize property relations, to prevent any returns to the topic of its redistribution, I consider it possible to support the proposal to reduce the limitation period for privatization transactions from 10 years to three years. I hope this will bring peace of mind to the business environment" (Speech at a meeting with representatives of business circles, 24.03.2005)

              Result - the statute of limitations is reduced, privatization continues.

              "If my grandmother ..." (answer to a journalist's question about the dollar exchange rate over 41 rubles, 17.10.2014/1/2) and subsequent schizophrenic-contradictory statements - XNUMX) the ruble is lowered by speculators; XNUMX) the devaluation of the ruble is good, since the budget has begun to earn more (speculators fill the budget - yeah) ...

              The result is known.

              What for? If you have not noticed - your happiness ..
              Fraud, not an answer No.

              without these "conversations" there would be no further actions ..
              Then say thank you to Yeltsin - conversations began in the first half of the 90s.

              For example: I often visit the city of Korolev
              This is not an example, but a special case, and a case that did not develop and did not exceed the performance of the USSR.

              And the IPP, despite the fact that it has a monetary expression, and the rise in prices in the Russian Federation "God forbid everyone", in 2014 was equal to 90% of the level of 91.

              Yes, really .. what?
              So what - what exactly did he do?

              Something like that..
              Not okay.
        2. MrK
          +3
          1 August 2015 01: 01
          Of course. A ruined Russia would have been foreigners. But not the ruined ... Russian oligarchs are fucking.
  37. 0
    31 July 2015 18: 39
    Well, if Russia is at the bottom, then where is Ukraine then?))))))))
    1. +1
      31 July 2015 20: 38
      Quote: akm8226
      Well, if Russia is at the bottom, then where is Ukraine then?))))))))

      Ukraine is swimming so far ... (and will come up anyway ..))) But Russia will have to keep the blow and hit to the point! And this is all the little things .. bully
      1. 0
        1 August 2015 06: 19
        There is no bottom in the ruin ...... It can fall forever ........ I’m weak and whining! And wiping the snot ......
  38. -3
    31 July 2015 18: 41
    Let me express my opinion. What did most of us do for the state of Rossisky? Lying on the couch, it’s easy to condemn everyone and everything. For the most part, we are ordinary inhabitants. We can influence the state’s foreign and domestic policies by choosing the president and parliamentarians. We choose those whom we trust more than to represent us both on the external and internal arenas. Anyone has the right to make mistakes, and a simple person, and power. It's all about our credit for trusting the authorities. So, I completely trust the president, Lavrov and Churkin. The last two are generally a monument need to put. Here they, unlike us, are real statesmen.
    1. +6
      31 July 2015 20: 19
      Whom did we choose? Do not write nonsense. We have never had fair elections. And then no one is lying on the couch. Most plow like oxen, extra penny earning a living.
      1. 0
        31 July 2015 21: 06
        Wow, human labor saves.
      2. -2
        1 August 2015 16: 11
        sds87SU
        Do not write nonsense. We have never had fair elections.


        Where do you have it? in ruin? Well, I personally want to vote myself !!!!
        1. +1
          1 August 2015 19: 09
          In Mother Russia. In Odintsovo. I saw in my city how workers were brought on buses, from large enterprises to vote for Vorobyov when the governor was elected. They brought it the day before the official elections. And they made sure that the right candidate was ticked. Otherwise, they threatened with various punishments up to dismissal. And I read how the communist observers were taken out by force when the votes were counted. They took out and emitted the billboards. For the heads of the cities near Moscow were threatened with punishment if the percentage of those who voted for Vorobyov was less than 80%. As a result, 89% were provided. I also always vote. But the state sphere "elections" works smoothly.
          1. +1
            1 August 2015 23: 46
            sds87
            Remember how in 2011, when they were elected to the State Duma, it turned out that according to the count of votes in all constituencies, the leader was the beloved VEDRO party. In December, people came out to Sakharov Square to say that we weren’t, to falsify elections. By the way, I did not work very far that day. it is officially said that about 30 thousand people were present, in fact, about 100 were for sure. The next elections in 2012.
          2. 0
            1 August 2015 23: 54
            sds87
            Remember how in 2011, when they were elected to the State Duma, it turned out that according to the count of votes in all constituencies, the leader was the beloved VEDRO party. In December, people came out to Sakharov Square to say that we weren’t, to falsify elections. By the way, I did not work very far that day. it is officially said that about 30 thousand people were present, in fact, about 100 were for sure. The next elections in 2012.
    2. +4
      31 July 2015 21: 27
      Quote: Vladimir Lipov
      The last two generally need to be erected a monument during their lifetime. Here they, unlike us, are real statesmen.

      Churkin performer. Monuments are rarely put to good performers. But Lavrov has a direct bearing on the formation of foreign policy. I wonder what the monument of Deep Concern will look like?
  39. +1
    31 July 2015 18: 53
    For the hundredth time I am writing, not our government in Russia is not adequate. Whatever happens, they are not acting on the orders of our president (I want to believe). At work, they are ready to put me on a stake for lesser sins, but here they do what they can. Double standard?
    1. +3
      31 July 2015 21: 30
      Quote: Const
      For the hundredth time I’m writing, not our government in Russia

      Apparently not our president collected and controls it, not our thought approved it, not you respected elected president and the thought.
  40. 0
    31 July 2015 19: 08
    Get ready for a life of modest wealth and conflicts with the West. I ask Putin about one thing: "Do not bend over to Western sinister."
    About the economy. It is urgent, free to distribute land for rent. If you don’t grow anything on it for 3 years, then start to tear up a fine or give it back. It will be needed soon, due to rising prices for food.
    It is also necessary to be careful about low interest rates and loans. And if you are lending something, then your production will be completely.
    The next 10 years I predict extremely difficult, beyond them - joy and happiness, not only on the basis of grub, but morality.
  41. -6
    31 July 2015 19: 24
    I remember in the game WOT was such an expression BOTTOM laughing
    IT'S THAT ... who's a class lower than crayfish.
    Who will knock where?
    Mikhail Delyagin is of course a specialist.
    But why disturb the people? Bottom?
    It needs to be softer. Temporary difficulties. Not for everyone.
  42. +5
    31 July 2015 19: 47
    Article plus. You can’t wipe your feet on people.
    Unfortunately, power is always deaf.
    Only fear of a riot ... although (what am I saying?) All those who are now driving the boat - Russia have their own little islands, where you can lie in a deck chair under the rays of the gentle, warm sun, occasionally looking at how the "other compatriots" are dangling, trying to feel the bottom with their feet ...
    1. -2
      31 July 2015 21: 22
      Only fear of rebellion.

      Or speculation. So?
      And if God forbid?
      forced to admit the correctness of Mikhail Delyagin.
      However, the injection of the widest masses is unnecessary.
      1. +4
        31 July 2015 22: 44
        Brother ... I saw both 91 and 93 years. I don’t want a riot, only it seems those who on the steering wheel do not realize where they are driving, or vice versa, are perfectly aware of what they are doing.

        Pisi: It is a pity that greed conquers the mind ...
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      3. MrK
        +6
        1 August 2015 01: 06
        Correct tokens2. "Extremists, do not rock the boat, do not pump!" And who is swinging? A people strangled by prices, or a president, raising tariffs? You are being strangled, but you will reconcile, die silently, “do not bother with your legs,” do not make noise?
        1. -1
          1 August 2015 01: 48
          MrK
          You are being strangled, but you will reconcile, die silently, “do not bother with your legs,” do not make noise?

          Are you silent? Or me too? We express our opinions.
          About dying? It’s quite possible to make a living on bread.
          But nobody is going to make peace. People are also in power.
          There are even thinkers.
          So you thicken some paint.
          a little bit.
          Expressing your opinion is the most valuable thing in a person. However, it is necessary to measure it with the interests of the collective. Namely, the people.
          And stand out .. well, you know. In the team. hi
  43. +2
    31 July 2015 19: 54
    Quote: Uncle Joe
    Quote: APES
    the whole policy of the economic bloc comes down to
    the fact that the government as a whole and the economic bloc in particular are executive and does not have its own policy.
    And the main directions of foreign and domestic policy are determined by the president.

    That's it. But also D.A. Medvedev was also the president of the Russian Federation and did the same thing - and even worse, since he is more flexible in front of the West than Putin. As a result, their general policy of changing the place of personal terms - whether they take up the presidential chair or the prime minister’s chair - does not change. The unity of purpose remains the same. In principle, between them, only for the sake of visibility, administrative-political castling is carried out.
    I personally, like M. Delyagin, also do not see that something is fundamentally changing in the financial system. The course is the same. Moreover, I’ll say more precisely when the next financial crisis will occur in Russia. It will be approximately 3-10 December 2015, and it will be much larger than the previous one, i.e. 2014 crisis. I can’t even imagine how we will crawl out of it!
    1. 0
      31 July 2015 21: 09
      There will be no crises on December 3-10, but there will be preparations for the new year.
    2. -2
      31 July 2015 22: 16
      Quote: Tatiana
      But also D.A. Medvedev was also the president of the Russian Federation and did the same thing.
      Yes, and then Prime Minister Putin campaigned for him.

      because he is more deformed to the West than Putin
      How do you determine the degree of deflection? laughing

      As a result, their general policy of changing the place of personal terms - whether they take up the presidential or prime ministerial seats in turn - does not change. The unity of purpose remains the same. In principle, between them, only for the sake of visibility, administrative-political castling is carried out.
      Namely: there is no difference between them - this is the whole point.

      It will be approximately December 3-10, 2015. And it will be much larger than the previous one, i.e. crisis of 2014. I can’t even imagine how we will crawl out of it!
      It may very well be.

      For example, here are such graphs:

      1. 0
        1 August 2015 16: 53
        I judge D. Medvedev's pro-Western backlash by the large number and quality of laws he approved (1400 pieces) in the spirit of n. "universal human values" when he was President of the Russian Federation than when V.V. Putin.
      2. 0
        1 August 2015 17: 23
        And about the crisis, I mean the crisis of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation with another sharp drop in the ruble against the US $. With all the ensuing consequences.
        1. +1
          1 August 2015 19: 10
          Quote: Tatiana
          I judge D. Medvedev's pro-Western backlash by the large number and quality of laws he approved (1400 pieces) in the spirit of n. "common human values"
          Firstly, frankly, I doubt very much that you could just run through such an amount with your eyes (not to mention reading) - where does the figure come from?

          Secondly, Medvedev could only sign those laws that were adopted by the majority of the State Duma - that is, United Russia, which (I admit, but it is not known for certain) was chosen by the majority of the population, and which (and this is known for sure) from 2008 to 2012 headed by Putin.

          And thirdly - can you give an example of a couple of Medvedev laws? For example, Putin introduced a budget rule and entered the WTO, but what did Medvedev do?

          Quote: Tatiana
          And about the crisis, I mean the crisis of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation with another sharp drop in the ruble against the US $. With all the ensuing consequences.
          So when the Central Bank lowers the ruble, a decrease in the purchasing power of the population occurs - just what is visible on the graphs. It's just that in 1998 this happened abruptly (the ruble was lowered 3.5 times in 4 months), and in 2014 smoothly (1.8 times in 12 months).
          1. 0
            1 August 2015 19: 59
            For example, on my own behalf.
            Medvedev indiscriminately signed the Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities in 2008, Article 24 of which provides for inclusive education (IE) of mentally and physically ill children together with healthy children in general education schools; children who previously had good specialized education in correctional schools and at home. As a result, school education in the country dropped below 2 points on a 5-point system in all subjects (see points on the USE), because the benchmark is on the performance of sick children. And the correctional training system is being phased out. The country is moribund. At the same time, the constitutional right of healthy people to receive a high-quality education is violated, according to their healthy abilities. Healthy people become uncompetitive (!) In the labor market.
            And the figure of 1400 laws was taken by me from the report of OG Dmitrieva. There and on pension reform, and housing and communal services. But of course, I don’t know all the 1400 laws. But what I know is already enough
            1. 0
              1 August 2015 22: 38
              Quote: Tatiana
              Medvedev indiscriminately signed the Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities in 2008, Article 24 of which provides for inclusive education (IE) of mentally and physically ill children together with healthy children in general education schools; children who previously had good specialized education in correctional schools and at home. As a result, school education in the country fell below 2 points on a 5-point system in all subjects
              The point is controversial (both from the point of view of expediency and from the point of view of increasing the psychological load on others in the first period), but this cannot lead to a decrease in overall achievement physically - there will not be enough children with disabilities (540 thousand disabled people, of which 110 thousand have a disability due to mental disorders, with a total number of children of 27.3 million)

              (see points on the exam)
              Apparently in the republics of the Caucasus there are no children with disabilities at all ...
              1. 0
                1 August 2015 23: 10
                It's not about the number of sick children (20% of comprehensive schools already contain them, and there will be 100%), but the quality of those made and launched just for them (patients) for all - sick and healthy - the same - indiscriminately - general education programs .
                We are talking about the genocide of the peoples of the Russian Federation under the flag of the so-called. "universal values".
                And it makes no sense to talk about the opportunities of Caucasians in the sense of corruption. They are in universities, consider, and do not study, but only grades on exams buy themselves.
                1. 0
                  1 August 2015 23: 57
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  The point is not in the number of sick children (20% of comprehensive schools already contain them, but will be 100%), but in the quality of those made and launched just for them (patients) for all - sick and healthy - the same - indiscriminately - general education programs
                  There is no problem here - the programs are the same, but the convention does not imply their adjustment to the level of the mentally retarded (specialized educational institutions remain for this category)
                  The problem is the instability of such children, the unpredictability of their reactions, deviant behavior, and the possible psychological discomfort of ordinary children (fear, nervousness, guilt) - this can affect academic performance, but indirectly and very slightly.

                  We are talking about the genocide of the peoples of the Russian Federation under the flag of the so-called. "universal values".
                  The so-called universal values ​​are life, freedom, happiness, homeland, family, children, love, respect of parents, etc., and not what you thought.

                  And it makes no sense to talk about the opportunities of Caucasians in the sense of corruption. They are in universities, consider, and do not study, but only grades on exams buy themselves.
                  So it turns out that the matter is not so much in children with disabilities, students in ordinary schools, as in the thoroughly rotted capitalist-oligarchic state system.
              2. 0
                1 August 2015 23: 39
                And then one weak-minded child in the classroom can disrupt the lessons to everyone else, pull the whole class back, even with a program made under the demented. It is not for nothing that parents of healthy children from elementary school have already resorted to the help of tutors, because in the lessons on the program because of underdeveloped students do not have time to pass anything.
                1. +1
                  2 August 2015 00: 51
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  And then one weak-minded child in the classroom can disrupt the lessons for everyone else, pull the whole class back, even with a program made under the demented
                  It cannot due to the fact that it is not able to study in a regular school.

                  It is not for nothing that parents of healthy children from elementary school have already resorted to the help of tutors, because in the lessons on the program because of underdeveloped students do not have time to pass anything.
                  This is done due to the fact that the system of training, teaching, and the program itself are made in one place (which are presentations in the 2nd grade).

                  So "thank you" should be said to the one who approved the education reform (not to Medvedev)
                  1. 0
                    2 August 2015 01: 15
                    Well, for example, a deaf-mute child in the classroom. What should he do with healthy children? And parents give him to a general school - they have international law. Also with the blind. Also with epilepsy. I'm not talking about psychopaths. With Down's disease too. He barely walks, the whole class is waiting for him when they go to the dining room, until everyone has breakfast cooled.
                    Second. If Medvedev signed the Convention, then that's all - change the Law "On Education"! Who shit? Medvedev. Putin did not sign the Convention.
                    1. 0
                      2 August 2015 02: 18
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      Well, for example, a deaf-mute child in the classroom. What should he do with healthy children? And parents give him to a general school - they have international law. Also with the blind. Also with epilepsy. I'm not talking about psychopaths. With Down's disease too. He barely walks, the whole class is waiting for him when they go to the dining room, until everyone has breakfast cooled.
                      How many disabled children have you seen in schools over the past year? So I have not seen a single one.

                      Second. If Medvedev signed the Convention, then that's all - change the Law "On Education"
                      Yes - if it is not against the constitution. Have you changed?

                      Who the shit? Medvedev. Putin did not sign the Convention.
                      Putin initiated a reform of education in a Western manner, dragged Medvedev along, 2 times appointed him prime minister, and campaigned for him in the elections.

                      Another question - where is education better?
                      Dark green field - ratified, light green - not ratified, gray - not signed.
                      1. 0
                        2 August 2015 09: 12
                        According to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, international laws prevail over national ones in our country. I don’t remember an article for memory, but there is no Constitution of the Russian Federation at hand. Naturally, the new Law on Education included inclusive education.
                        A friend of mine has already taken advantage of this law and sent his hearing-impaired and poorly speaking - bobbing, child to a comprehensive school. I ask: “Why?” He answers: “Let him be like everyone else!” Moreover, he will understand lips by mouth, as in the movie of the deaf-mute character “Shield and Sword”! ”I tell him:“ This is still an elementary school, he will have few problems. And in high school, what will he have with academic performance? What are you doing?! The child will not know sign language for the deaf. He will be a stranger both among the deaf and among the healthy. A special education program is provided at a special education school. ” In class, his children do not like.
                      2. 0
                        2 August 2015 09: 22
                        I say to him: “Do you really not understand that your child is interfering with learning healthy children, is he embittered by himself?” He says to me: “So I have to throw him in the trash ?!”
                      3. 0
                        2 August 2015 16: 39
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        According to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, international laws prevail over national laws in our country.
                        Forgive me, of course, but what you wrote is called looking into a book, and seeing a fig, and talking about something with nothing in the foot.

                        Firstly, no international laws exist in nature - there are international treaties that are the basis of international law, and which are signed by the Russian president or the heads of departments with the approval of the president (law is not a set of norms, but a sphere social interaction - like medicine, education, or politics).

                        Secondly, each international treaty is ratified by the State Duma of the Russian Federation through the adoption of a federal law, which, in accordance with part 1 of the article, which you do not remember (15), cannot contradict the constitution (at the same time, contradictions between laws and the constitution happen regularly, but this is not because because something is not written in the constitution, but because the country's leadership wanted to spit on the constitution).

                        A friend of mine has already taken advantage of this law and sent his hearing-impaired and poorly speaking - bobbing, child to a comprehensive school. I ask: “Why?” He answers: “Let him be like everyone else!”
                        And his desire can be understood.

                        Moreover, she will understand lips by mouth, as in the movie of the deaf-mute character “Shield and Sword”! ” I tell him: “This is so far the elementary school he will have few problems. And in high school, what will he have with academic performance? What are you doing?! The child will not know sign language for the deaf. He will be a stranger both among the deaf and among the healthy. A special education program is provided at a special education school. ” In the classroom his children do not like.
                        Again, in fact, it turns out that the point is not in the convention and its signing, but in the further organization of all this. Not in a reduction in performance a priori, but in the psychological discomfort experienced by both a healthy majority and people with disabilities.

                        I say that the thing is controversial, and I myself do not welcome this matter. But I do not welcome him, not because of the mythical decline in performance, but because such decisions should not be political, as it is now, but medically and socially justified for each particular culture, and therefore the country and even the region.
                      4. 0
                        2 August 2015 23: 02
                        Article 15, paragraph 4 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation states:
                        4. The universally recognized principles and norms of international law and international treaties of the Russian Federation are an integral part of its legal system. If the international treaty of the Russian Federation establishes other rules than those provided for by law, the rules of the international treaty are applied.
                        The Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities was ratified in 2009.
                        The Law "On Education" was adopted in 2012, entered into force in 2013.
                        I advise you to read the following analytical articles:
                        1. Zueva T.F. Inclusive education in Russia as a tool for the death of the country. 1 Article. // New Petersburg, No. 30 (1080). - 8 August 2013. - S. 3. - (Electronic resource.) - Access mode: http://newspb.su/category/2013/30-01-08-2013/page/4/
                        2. Zueva T.F. Inclusive education in Russia as a tool for the death of the country. 2 Article. // New Petersburg, No. 31 (1081). - 15 August 2013. - S. 6. - (Electronic resource.) - Access mode: http://newspb.su/category/2013/31-08-08-2013/page/3/
                        3. Zueva T.F. Inclusive education in Russia as a tool for the death of the country. 3 Article. Part 1. // New Petersburg, No. 32 (1082). - 22 August 2013. - S. 3. - (Electronic resource.) - Access mode: http://newspb.su/category/2013/32-15-08-2013/page/2/
                        4. Zueva T.F. Inclusive education in Russia as a tool for the death of the country. 3 Article. Part 2. // New Petersburg, No. 34 (1084). - 5 September 2013. - S. 4. Only in print. Search in the MFN magazine fund. I have an electronic copy.
                        5. Zueva T.F. Inclusive education in Russia as a tool for the death of the country. 3 Article. Part 3. // New Petersburg, No. 35 (1085). - 12 September 2013. - S. 3. - (Electronic resource.) - Access mode: http://newspb.su/category/2013/35-5-09-2013/
                        6. Lyskov Dmitry. World conspiracy: "Children should learn together." About inclusive education. - (Electronic resource.) - Access mode: http://www.deafnet.ru/new.phtml?c=70&id=10530
                        The IE was developed by the services of the US State Department and is implemented according to special principles that destroy education in the Russian Federation.
                      5. 0
                        3 August 2015 03: 12
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Generally recognized principles and norms of international law
                        They are common and recognized only for signatory states.

                        The generally recognized principles of international law should be understood as the fundamental imperative norms of international law, accepted and recognized by the international community of states as a whole, deviation from which is unacceptable.
                        The generally recognized principles of international law, in particular, include the principle of universal respect for human rights and the principle of the conscientious fulfillment of international obligations.
                        The generally accepted norm of international law should be understood as a rule of conduct that is accepted and recognized by the international community of states as a whole as legally binding.
                        The content of these principles and international law may be disclosed, in particular, in documents of the United Nations and its specialized agencies. (Resolution of the Plenum of the Armed Forces N5 of 10.10.03)

                        International law is a set of norms and principles establishing mutual rights and obligations of states in the process of their communication, regulating international relations.
                        Sources of international law are treaties, customs and principles. The norms of international law are created in the course of negotiations between various entities and are drawn up by relevant treaties.

                        and international treaties of the Russian Federation are an integral part of its legal system.
                        "international treaty of the Russian Federation" means an international agreement concluded by the Russian Federation with a foreign state (or states) or with an international organization in writing and regulated by international law, regardless of whether such an agreement is contained in one document or in several related documents, as well as regardless of its specific name (Article 2 N101-FZ of 15.07.95)
                      6. 0
                        3 August 2015 03: 14
                        If other rules are established by an international treaty of the Russian Federation than those provided by law, the rules of the international treaty shall apply.
                        If the president signed, the State Duma and the Federation Council ratified, the president approved, and did not manage to bring the regulatory framework in accordance with the new law containing the provisions of the international treaty, then the provisions (rules) of the international treaty (new federal law) apply

                        Wherein:

                        Article 15.1. The Constitution of the Russian Federation has the highest legal force, direct effect and applies throughout the territory of the Russian Federation. Laws and other legal acts adopted in the Russian Federation shall not contradict the Constitution Russian Federation.

                        Article 125.6. Acts or their separate provisions recognized as unconstitutional lose their force; international treaties of the Russian Federation that do not comply with the Constitution of the Russian Federation are not subject to entry into force and application.

                        I recommend to read
                        I do not know who Zuev and Lyskov are, but I know for sure that such decisions should not be made by politicians or freaks from conspiracy theories, but by sociologists, psychologists and psychiatrists. I know for sure that neither developing China, nor countries with the highest levels of education and life (and the United States does not belong to such) ratify the convention in any way. And I can cite many times more references to serious studies of xenophobia, a special case of which are your negative emotions regarding inclusive education.

                        By the way: to the question - how many children with disabilities have you seen in schools over the past year? “You never answered.”
                      7. 0
                        3 August 2015 17: 58
                        We speak different languages ​​with you. You are from the point of view of a formal lawyer, I am from the point of view of improving the quality of Russian education and identifying the reasons for its deterioration as a threat to the national security of the Russian Federation. Any laws are already a form which was preceded by a certain political content. And politics is a concentrated expression of the economic interests of certain people, groups, classes, classes, peoples, nations, professional corporations. Problems in society arise when these economic interests of these societies collide. No need to talk about China. I personally do not know much about him, and he is not interesting to me in this matter. I care about what is in our country. There is a lot of information about education, but you are not aware of the opposition to ongoing reforms. And do not want to ask about it. I chose the best for you to quickly get in the know. Now I am a bit away from this.
                        I’ll also say honestly: the numbers that concern you so much do not interest me either, because they do not stand still. The trend is important. According to the plan, there should be such schools in every city 20%, and then all 100%. And you, apparently, think it is normal when out of 25 people in the class suffer from 24 because of one sick child. And they really suffer!
                        Let's stop this senseless conversation, otherwise you will begin to insult me ​​by superficially incorrectly labeling me with xenophobia. Good luck to you!
                      8. 0
                        3 August 2015 19: 11
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        All sorts of laws are already a form that was preceded by a certain political content.
                        So I am about the same. But I look at the problem as a whole, and you are hooked on particulars.

                        The reform that led to partial commercialization and a deterioration in the quality of education has been under way since 2000 (in 2001, an experiment was introduced for the first time on the introduction of the Unified State Examination). The convention was signed in the framework of the logic of this ongoing reform.
                        The convention itself is neither good nor bad - it all depends on the goals and methods of their implementation, and therefore it makes sense to make claims not to the convention, and not to its signing, but to the political leadership involved in the destruction of education, and not to single out Medvedev, who just continued the destructive reform undertaken by Putin.

                        And you, apparently, think it is normal when out of 25 people in a class, 24 suffer from one sick child, and they really suffer!
                        I consider it normal when such decisions are made by educators, sociologists, psychologists and psychiatrists, and not ordinary people who pass their speculation as truth, not politicians, and not conspiracy theorists.
                        And at the moment I have no reason to believe that with a normal approach to this issue (and we will not have it — the country's leadership has other goals), a healthy majority will suffer from disabilities.
                        Children will likely suffer from xenophobia and prosperous social Darwinism of their parents, multiplied by their own obscurantism - our society is mythological and evil.

                        Good luck to you!
                        All the best.
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                        3 August 2015 20: 18
                        I consider it normal when such decisions are made by educators, sociologists, psychologists and psychiatrists, and not ordinary people who pass their speculation as truth, not politicians, and not conspiracy theorists.
                        Society begins with a family and only then with teachers, sociologists, psychologists and psychiatrists who also participate in the commercialization of school and higher education and medicine itself. In addition, we always had the so-called "Court scholars," who made their careers on the principle of "What are you pleased?" Not all of them can be trusted. Do you really think that all parents are just ordinary people? Yes, it is they - the parents - who are the citizens of their country and raise this issue of the dominance of scientific insolvency of AI in the Russian Federation. Among the parents are full of professionals - engineers, doctors, teachers, military and other specialists. You think: they are not able to determine the quality of modern teaching ?! And why is this happening?
                        And the reforms in education themselves began in 1986, when, first of all, the service of inspectors was removed from the RONO system, who attended classes at the school and personally monitored how the teacher himself was ready for the lesson, how he taught the lesson, what the quality of teaching him material. Now it has not been restored in its original form - and it was restored somewhat at the insistence of the parental public. All in all, this is a long topic of discussion.
                        Good luck to you!
                      10. 0
                        3 August 2015 20: 51
                        And further. Are you worried about the quality of the services you receive and the goods you buy? So in education the same thing! Parents are the first conscious buyers-consumers of educational goods, and not some kind of “ordinary people” there.
                      11. 0
                        3 August 2015 22: 08
                        Society begins from its "atom" - from the individual, not from the cell.
                        But we are discussing what it begins with, not the reasons for his bitterness, and not his defects in the form of forced and not forced commercializers, or court scholars.

                        The subject of our conversation is the prevalence by you of Medvedev’s negative actions over Putin’s negative actions, and all the other topics that have arisen are secondary - only illustrating the main one.

                        In this statement, I oppose you, trying to explain that this is not so, that Putin and Medvedev are parts of the same negative system, a tandem that there is no difference between them. And in response, you constantly go aside, trying to shift the emphasis of the conversation from its subject to side topics (and where it makes sense to consider the problem as a whole, you are hit in particular, and where you really need to understand and separate the grains from the chaff you level one comb)

                        Do you really think that all parents are just ordinary people?
                        Most, and due to the processes that have taken place over the past 60 (and especially the last 30) years, are poorly educated and not able to think philistines with a highly mythological consciousness and extremely selfish social Darwinist value system - philistines (both parents of healthy children and parents of children disabled people - your familiar example)

                        You think: they are not able to determine the quality of modern teaching ?!
                        Well again ...

                        The quality of teaching has nothing to do with it - it is visible to anyone. But at the same time, lo and behold, for some reason, not everyone is able to understand that you can change the situation only by taking control of the government and changing the social system (at least turning the country of victorious nomenclature-oligarchic capitalism into a social state - that is, at least by forcing the government not to do whatever comes into her head, but to comply with a constitution that none of these wonderful engineers read)

                        Now it has not been restored in its original form.
                        And it won’t be until the power and system change. But instead of the main, defining issue, everyone strikes in particular, like a convention.

                        Parents are the first conscious buyers-consumers of educational goods, and not some kind of “ordinary people” there
                        Here it is - the deformation of perception, thinking and values!

                        In modern conditions, education is a vital necessity along with food and housing, and therefore cannot be a service. And those who receive it cannot be either buyers or consumers in a commercial sense.

                        And anyone who does not understand this is being replaced by concepts - thereby blowing new potential slave owners into the tune, while killing the future of their children (and you say that it’s not ordinary people ...)
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                        4 August 2015 00: 36
                        Finally, I agree with you on almost everything! But what do you offer? Even if I see a hole in the ship, I try to plug it in the way I see it, I understand and how I can. And you reproach me for being “particular.” Yes, the command staff must be changed on the ship, otherwise it leads the ship to the reefs and there are already holes through which water fills the hold, and only the command staff has lifeboats! But should the ship stay in the water position? Or not? Or should an unorganized team itself simply wait for the flooding and then just swim overboard? What will we do with the ship in this case? Is there a hole in the ship, how do you get it, “particulars” in this case? Or not? And so, of course, it is clear that even with a plugged hole, the ship will not last long on the water. But you still need to shut up - and not only in education.
                        The educational system in the country itself is not only structural relations and market relations in the country. The external enemy imposes qualitative flaws on us, in particular through the inclusion of the education of sick children with healthy ones, while degrading healthy children in much larger quantities than allegedly pulling up mentally and physically ill patients. At the same time, does the Constitution of the Russian Federation violate the rights of healthy children to receive a quality education? Is broken. Are educational requirements for schoolchildren as a younger generation reduced? Is decreasing. And then without the "part" and its "particulars" there is no "whole". Russia will turn into a jelly-like stub that can be easily brushed off or wiped off with a wet rag.
                        In the USSR, excellent correctional education systems were created, which in the USA the parents of sick children could not even dream of. The introduction of the American system of AI in our country is necessary only to ditch Russia completely. It must be taken into account that it takes years to educate a person - and we untimely lose productive human capital. Therefore, there should not be any liberalism in the issue of the IO! No so-called “Positive discrimination” (a term from psychology) is when the majority is embarrassed to defend their constitutional rights in front of various kinds of so-called the absurd liberal rights of some overstated social minorities, contrary to even elementary common sense! In this case, the majority need to keep the blow of such social minorities, and not soften! For example, in the West it is suggested to society that the rights of sexual minorities should be equated with the rights of a traditional sexual majority. Knowing the trend in this matter, I hope you are not going to give in to sexual minorities in the Russian Federation? That's it!
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  44. +8
    31 July 2015 19: 56
    Quote: afdjhbn67
    Although I am a supporter of Putin, but gradually begins to accumulate dissatisfaction with what is happening in the country and it’s not at all sanctions; on the contrary, it’s rather an indulgence for liberals .. everyone can see that nothing is happening in the economy and spells do not help having such a profit in fat years, they didn’t even make a jerk for a breakthrough didn’t come close to that quietly shut up

    And I'm not a fan of Putin! And "nonsense is going on in the economy" - Putin's politics, and all "nishtyaks" in their fat years got exactly those "close" to Putin. And his words "need to get off the oil needle" - over 15 years turned into incantations , and little help. Why do they need a "breakthrough" - oil and gas goes abroad, and that's good. hi
  45. +2
    31 July 2015 20: 19
    Quote: tilovaykrisa
    and automatically deprive of citizenship, confiscation of property and, well, a couple of years and forcibly live in the north.


    I set +, to be honest. It deserves to be an opinion. I have mine. although not much different from many here. You know. We said before. after afghan. after Chernobyl. that the privileges we have are only for the dead. So the fatigue in the evening takes count. who stole how much per day. Well, really.

    As for this quote here, then take away from me all the rest, but I live and not so in the south. Who is still not enough? Sechin, Serdyukov. or to our governor? Yurchenko was moved out of distrust. and Gorodetsky by trust, or something, was appointed governor? Oh, do not tell my horseshoes))
  46. +6
    31 July 2015 20: 44
    The liberal model of the economy in Russia proved to be a very weak model. It is convenient for the further plunder of Russia's natural wealth, but is not suitable for the country's development. Continuing this neo-colonial path of development of the Russian Federation, the GDP drives itself into a corner, agreeing with the liberals on the development paths of Russia. Central Bank withdrawn from IMF management and work for the Russian Federation, and not for TNCs in the West. So far, industries related to the expansion of raw material extraction are developing. Machine-building and especially machine-tool building practically do not develop, the development of defense industry enterprises is under way, and even that with great creak. But these enterprises are needed to protect the country, and in the current conditions this means protecting the interests of the oligarchs, whom the West (its TNCs) wants to limit and subjugate. I always voted for GDP, and that was right, otherwise the Russian Federation would not have got out of the pit of the 90s! But his bet on liberals has already outlived itself, but being a protege of these, the so-called liberal statists who do not want to change in accordance with the new conditions of the country's existence, GDP risks losing its rating over the year, which is what Western liberals need. In the fall, GDP is going to speak at a UN session, and at the same time, apparently, to talk with Obama.
    So we'll see if he will succeed in making peace with the West or will receive another kick-ultimatum. It looks like our "elites" agree to an "honest" section of the Russian pie. I really want to be wrong! stop
    1. -9
      31 July 2015 21: 18
      We don’t have any elites and no one will share anything, everything has its own owners - the business competition has remained the same, but they fear and respect Putin in the West because he is strong and his rating will fly up even more.
      1. +8
        31 July 2015 21: 55
        Quote: Vadim237
        the rating will take off

        Yes, rating is the main thing. Manufacturing industry, science, education, health care in the dupe, and the rating sticks out, even if only henna. And the majority sees that we are going in the wrong direction, and all the same, like rams: "Pu-u-u tin, Pu-u-u tin."
        1. -1
          31 July 2015 23: 49
          Everything will be fine with industry, and the more industry there will be, the more tax deductions for science, education, health care and everything else will be - the main thing is to overcome crisis economic waves.
          1. +1
            3 August 2015 15: 45
            Quote: Vadim237
            Everything will be fine with industry, and the more industry there will be, the more tax deductions for science, education, health care and everything else will be - the main thing is to overcome crisis economic waves.

            May I ask which one and when? Will we start electronics? Aircraft? Modern trains? Medication? Software?
            What kind of industry will it be in short?
            1. 0
              5 August 2015 11: 12
              We have been doing electronics for a long time - go to KRET’s website, microprocessors are also Multicam LLC, we also do modern locomotives and wagons, things aren’t as good with planes and wagons, but there is something the MC 21 and Frigate Ecojet are striving for.
  47. 0
    31 July 2015 21: 22
    The question is, what is the question? Answer _ remove liberal ideas from the economic block of the government and some ministers.
    1. +3
      31 July 2015 21: 51
      Well, they were removed, and then what, the extra money in the country from this will not appear.
    2. +5
      31 July 2015 21: 57
      Quote: etti65
      Answer _ remove liberal ideas from the economic block of the government and some ministers.

      This is possible only in the kit: Putin, the government, EdRo.
  48. -2
    31 July 2015 21: 31
    I didn’t find anything new in the article - the usual, habitual SHOULDER! No.
    My Rostov -
  49. +6
    31 July 2015 21: 41
    There is nothing surprising in what we see now. The "economic bloc" of the 90s was created to plunder the wealth left over from the USSR. Economic block 00x for plundering the wealth obtained from the sale of expensive energy resources. So now the situation for all this shobla is like in the painting by Aivazovsky.
  50. +5
    31 July 2015 21: 43
    Who else is trying to prove that our liberals and other "effective managers" are rooting for the crumbling Russian economy and are doing at least something in order to revive it, to alleviate the social burden of ordinary Russians. No need to lie to yourself and to US! Until the current elite becomes pro-Russian (and it will never become such!), There is nothing to hope for, and even to talk about the revival of the former greatness of Russia. Everyone has learned to chat, even the janitors, and meanwhile, you need to be ready for the return of something similar at the time of war communism. The economy needs to really be saved, and not talk about salvation, but the trouble is, there really is no one to save it. There are too many Chubais at the government trough.
  51. -3
    31 July 2015 21: 46
    Wow, there are so many people here who would like everything at once. Many here want Putin to immediately build the economy that was in the USSR. But such an economy can be created under a dictatorship, and it can be either with the proletariat or with the National Socialists, that is, with the fascists. The presence of liberalism is completely denied here. No, we’ve had enough of the troubled committees sending people to Siberia for no reason. Without an alliance with the liberal intelligentsia, we will not have anything good in the economy. Naturally, not with that liberal rubbish that prays to the West.
    1. +4
      1 August 2015 20: 16
      Quote: Anchonsha
      Many here want Putin to immediately build the economy that was in the USSR.

      Is it okay that under Putin, half of the total number of factories destroyed were liquidated? At least he wouldn’t destroy if he can’t create.
  52. -1
    31 July 2015 21: 57
    Well, the article is generally correct. The liberal idea worked when we were friends with the West, obeying its rules. There were rules of the game, we played by these rules and, in general, maintained our economy at a sufficient level. But now we are at war. You need to understand that there is essentially a war going on now. And we all adhere to the old rules of the game, which are already working against us. And this will remain so until we create and join a system separate from the Western one. Not the opposite of the Western one, but not opposing us. Such a system is now being created, we are integrating it into it, this is not a quick thing. Well, even in 1942 it was not obvious that we would win the war... At the same time, keep in mind that we have to rebuild the economy and industry on the fly, pouring in more funds where in other circumstances we could do without it. So the article is generally correct. but does not cover all aspects of the current situation.
    By the way, I was surprised, unpleasantly, by the number of pluses in comments against Putin.
    1. +13
      31 July 2015 22: 28
      Quote: Zomanus
      By the way, I was surprised, unpleasantly, by the number of pluses in comments against Putin.

      Get used to it. You can maintain the myth of the “tsar” and “boyars” for a long time, but not indefinitely. You can fall into Fedorovism and consider Putin a fighter against the liberal government, the vile Duma and the “occupation,” but sooner or later the brain turns on, and questions require answers.
      1. +4
        1 August 2015 20: 13
        Quote: Karabin
        but sooner or later the brain turns on,

        I doubt that the Putriots will ever turn it on.
  53. +10
    31 July 2015 22: 57
    Putin’s friends, whom he does not allow to be touched and essentially protects, are really finishing off the country. Just thought Shuvalov, not like Gref, Chubais, Minister Men and other menagerie. But no. And Shuvalov is the same. "Friend" of the Supreme.
    “Deputy Prime Minister Igor Shuvalov owns an apartment with an area of ​​500 square meters in central London. Last year, Shuvalov paid a tax of 48 million rubles to the British treasury. Also, in the UK there is a special annual tax on particularly expensive real estate: this annual Shuvalov tax for the fact of owning a London apartment amounted to 6 million rubles."
    And these are fighters against the USA and the West? How do they announce themselves now? Don't make my cat laugh.
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  55. +3
    31 July 2015 22: 59
    I looked into the housing and communal services bill - a new expense item appeared - for major repairs of the house (something like that). Moreover, the old column for deductions has not disappeared into the same bottomless barrel.
    The government of the Moscow region did not pay Moscow for some transportation costs - now Moscow Region pensioners are deprived of the right to free travel in the Capital...
    And everyone just promises. But it came out of the mouth of a couple of high-ranking ghouls that the people must save themselves; moreover, they must save 10-15 thousand “Judaic enterprises” (national treasure, heritage, wealth, etc.) at their own expense.

    I just don’t understand, what kind of mockery is this...
    1. +3
      1 August 2015 06: 42
      Quote: Mama_Cholli
      I looked into my housing and communal services bill and a new expense item appeared - for major home repairs.

      We've been paying for this item for a year now! (Rostov-on-Don)
      Quote: Mama_Cholli
      Now Moscow Region pensioners are deprived of the right to free travel in the Capital...

      Pensioners pay 50%.
      Should Moscow be offended by their benefits and salaries?
  56. +3
    31 July 2015 23: 33
    The author of the article very accurately described the state of the Russian economy.

    As for the nonsense of some in the style of “we need to be friends with the West and this will help support our economy,” it is necessary to refute in some ways and supplement in some ways.
    Regarding the addition, it should look like this: “we need to be friends with the West and this will help maintain our economy at the level of the economy of a banana republic with the appropriate level of influence”
    The West did not initially foresee any development or return of influence in the world for Russia.
    Since the beginning of the 90s, the United States has raised a knife and fork over Russia, aiming at the division and absorption of our country. Without division, the absorption of Russia was impossible (a nuclear power with a huge army). A process of separation was launched with the support of separatism both in the offices of the Russian government and in the regions themselves. Everything started spinning like clockwork and they began to write their own personal constitutions that run counter to the constitution of the Russian Federation not only in the republics (by the way, in many republics this has not yet been eliminated ).
    The United States was waiting for the collapse and liquidation of Russia in the early 2000s. They simply directed this process themselves while sitting in the offices of the Kremlin.
    After the beginning of the 2002s, they suddenly realized that the new government (Putin) was not completely controlled and began to stick to its line. In order to prevent Russia from returning to its lost status as a world power with a developed economy and army, in XNUMX the Duma hastily adopted a law on the Central Bank.
    Until 2002, the United States did not see the need for this law.
    In principle, there can be no breakthrough and growth of the economy or industrialization without free access of the state authorities to finances earned by the state.
    In order to somehow keep the state afloat and modernize the army, the government is forced to increase the tax burden on citizens in various ways (increasing fines, introducing new fees, increasing existing ones, etc.). This will inevitably lead to a social explosion in society and, moreover, it will be a very unexpected and strong explosion.
    The United States understands this very well, they are betting on it and they are right about it.
    The process of evolution of the state (small steps towards the great future of the state) at a certain stage is either revolutionary in nature or the development process is interrupted and degradation begins.
    To seize power now you don’t need to take the post office, telephone, telegraph, but just enough to take over the Central Bank.
    1. +2
      1 August 2015 08: 04
      Quote: lopvlad
      Regarding the addition, it should look like this: “we need to be friends with the West and this will help maintain our economy at the level of the economy of a banana republic with the appropriate level of influence”

      Over 15 years, Russia's revenues from oil sales amounted to more than $3 trillion
      This is a huge amount of money, sufficient to transfer the country from a *raw materials* economy to a developed production. No one has limited Russia either financially or in the purchase of technology.
      The whole problem is that all the money was either squandered in corners, or went to the development of the same fuel and energy complex with the sole purpose of making the fuel and energy complex a political instrument.
      The miscalculation was obvious, both the projects were absolutely economically unprofitable and the fact that Europe, although a gayrope, apparently would not have accepted another partner who had settled in behind.
      Quote: lopvlad
      and the West did not initially envisage any development and return of influence in the world for Russia.

      Now influence in the World is achieved primarily by the economy, believe me, no one would want to see China in its dominant position today, but China doesn’t care about that - do you know why? Because it has the second largest economy in the world
      Quote: lopvlad
      After the beginning of the XNUMXs, they suddenly realized that the new government (Putin) was not completely controlled and was beginning to follow its line

      In the 2000s, Russia developed remarkably, traded without problems, living standards grew - and no one in the West interfered with this. If they wanted to interfere, they would have done what they are doing now, but that didn’t happen.
      Quote: lopvlad
      In order to prevent Russia from returning to its lost status as a world power with a developed economy and army, in 2002 the Duma hastily adopted a law on the Central Bank.

      storyteller, all over the world, law on the Central Bank. almost identical to Russian (or vice versa)
      Quote: lopvlad
      In principle, there can be no breakthrough and growth of the economy or industrialization without free access of the state authorities to finances earned by the state.
      1. -1
        1 August 2015 10: 46
        All these 3 trillion dollars went to salaries, pensions, benefits, to the banking sector to finance science, production, the army, and everything else for 15 years, and even then this is 10 part of what was actually spent for all these purposes - all the money is in circulation.
    2. 0
      1 August 2015 08: 05
      State power (the Duma, etc.) has a free path to finance, and tomorrow you will have zilch left
      The Central Bank is responsible for the stability of the financial system, he and he alone. And you propose - seven nannies have a child without an eye (you know)
      Quote: lopvlad
      In order to somehow keep the state afloat and modernize the army, the government is forced to increase the tax burden on citizens in various ways (increasing fines, introducing new fees, increasing existing ones, etc.). This will inevitably lead to a social explosion in society and, moreover, it will be a very unexpected and strong explosion.

      Well, after all, the entire economy was built around oil, and at 120-150 bucks per barrel. The deficiency must be filled with someone else besides citizens.
      You understand that Crimea, Novorossiya, Armata, PAK, etc. cost money, but where does the money come from?
      Only from grateful citizens
      Quote: lopvlad
      The process of evolution of the state (small steps towards the great future of the state) at a certain stage is either revolutionary in nature or the development process is interrupted and degradation begins.

      Is it possible without revolutions, like in Sweden, or America, Canada (at worst) or filthy Finland? So what would develop, but without revolutions?
      Quote: lopvlad
      To seize power now you don’t need to take the post office, telephone, telegraph, but just enough to take over the Central Bank.

      Well, okay, I’ve already stocked up on popcorn, a flag in my hands. After all, Lenin also said that every cook can rule the state hi
  57. +1
    31 July 2015 23: 46
    It seems like the state should not interfere in the economy, but only regulates economic relations, creating certain conditions for this. It is impossible to cover all areas; rather, one should do something better than others, keeping in mind the richness of the periodic table.
    for example, not just sell gas, but create a super car running on gas. pump gas, return it in rubles and do something else useful. football Gazprom, network of fitness centers Gazprom.
    Today we are again injecting money into the military and feeding the already fat oligarchs
  58. +1
    31 July 2015 23: 55
    The Kremlin crap along the way - although what am I talking about, this is exactly what they have been going towards all these years - systematically and systematically!!!
    1. +4
      1 August 2015 00: 03
      in Ukraine you might think things are different. accustomed to living at someone else's expense
      1. +3
        1 August 2015 00: 10
        Quote: gerodot
        in Ukraine you might think things are different. accustomed to living at someone else's expense

        Even chickens don’t whisper for Ukraine. At the same time, Russia turns out to be no less a US colony than Ukraine.
        Only the Kremlin could waste years of colossal prices for oil and gas so mediocrely!!!
        The article simply points out point by point what the “elite” of Russia is doing, whose task is precisely the collapse of Russia. And blaming the USA for this is simply stupid and stupid
        1. +3
          1 August 2015 00: 25
          The United States has one complaint about escalating the situation around Russia. The goal is complete subjugation, seizure of resources, extermination of the indigenous population. Therefore, the only thing worse than your own shit is something overseas.
          -1 I don’t like the truth about parasites, whoever doubted it
          1. 0
            1 August 2015 08: 13
            Quote: gerodot
            The United States has one complaint about escalating the situation around Russia. The goal is complete subjugation, seizure of resources, extermination of the indigenous population.

            For what ? A sheep can be skinned only once, but sheared ad infinitum.
            Why should the Amers seize Russia for raw materials - since Russia already sells it to everyone, why destroy the population? And who will work and buy the same American goods?
      2. +1
        1 August 2015 16: 18
        gerodot
        In Ukraine, you might think things are different?


        They have an eternal complete PZ* (peremoga-zrada or zrada-peremoga, no difference). The main thing is that you galloped - when you galloped - evrey, don’t cry.....
  59. 0
    1 August 2015 00: 33
    Quote: gerodot
    The United States has one complaint about escalating the situation around Russia. The goal is complete subjugation, seizure of resources, extermination of the indigenous population. Therefore, the only thing worse than your own shit is something overseas. I really don’t like it, who would doubt it

    The USA copes with what you wrote very well - even without trying - they control all of Russia, the population is dying, resources are subordinated to the protege of the State Department, dollar dependence
    1. +1
      1 August 2015 00: 46
      There is government support, programs to improve the vision of business (benefits, loans), at least I heard. That's the problem with corruption. no mechanism has yet been invented that would lead to its disposal (NGOs have become more commercial like Greenpeace)
      I forgot to say about the bureaucracy, where would we be without it? oligarchs know how to protect their wealth so that others don’t get it
      Where is it different? )
  60. +7
    1 August 2015 00: 40
    Quote: Vadim237
    18. 26 March - Concern "Tractor Plants" began the production of combines on a new site in the city of Cheboksary.

    I’ll tell you about the concern and especially the combines, because I work in the concern, moreover, in Cheboksary. During this period, not ONE combine was assembled. The main components of the Concern in Cheboksary and Kanash - Carriage Repair Plant, Aggregate Plant, Promtractor and Promlit - are in constant downtime. Constantly, Karl! Enough for us to fill our tanks with the fact that everything is fine. A year ago I would have believed it. Life and facts are stubborn things.
    1. -2
      1 August 2015 10: 50
      The main thing is that they have built, they are not building combines now, but tomorrow they will start - because there will be a need.
  61. +7
    1 August 2015 05: 26
    The standard of living of Russians, especially in the provinces, has fallen significantly over the past year. The euphoria from “Crimea is Ours” is passing, there are unpaid loans, lack of work or a salary of 15 tr. TV channels are talking and inspiring every hour that $60 is normal - we are on import substitution and we have everything of our own fellow Gasoline at 35 is also normal - we are in the world market lol Chubais claims that there is a scam in nano worth 200 million rubles. - this is not damage drinks
    1. +3
      1 August 2015 20: 11
      Quote: vik71
      Chubais claims that there is a scam in nano worth 200 million rubles. - this is not damage

      Yes, indeed, it’s kind of a little thing. laughing
  62. +3
    1 August 2015 06: 59
    “The Russian economy is in a very difficult situation” - the words of Mr. Shuvalov. And who drove it into this difficult situation? How far you are, Mr. Shuvalov, from the people. Au Shuvalov Can you hear me?
  63. 0
    1 August 2015 08: 16
    http://www.budaev.ru/img/gallery/18/temp/Metabook87.jpg
  64. 0
    1 August 2015 08: 39
    Our locomotive is flying forward.
  65. +4
    1 August 2015 09: 15
    I read the article, everything is quite reasonable. And it seems that we have three options:
    1 - GDP begins an operation to destroy the enemies of the people and we feel good
    2 - Enemies of the people are destroying GDP and we are no longer laughing
    3 - the people themselves begin to destroy the enemies of the people and then little depends on GDP, but will it be good for us?

    Conclusion - which path will we take? God grant that the first one. The GDP's credibility is coming to an end.
  66. +6
    1 August 2015 09: 49
    After all this, one question arises: -When will this nonsense end, when will the Guarantor of the Constitution finally get down to his business, which is what he swore during his inauguration??? Or is his policy, despite the rhetoric, completely pro-liberal and pro-American!??? In the USSR we were promised a bright future and now there are the same bagpipes, but where are the real steps to improve the lives of the people! Or again, like Gorbachev: “You stated that WE would live better; - AND WE live better, but I didn’t talk about you!” Until when will the liberal-economic bloc of the Russian government ruin our economy? How long will our finances be controlled by Wall Street tycoons and not our government??? And how long will Russia help everyone (and even Kyiv to put pressure on Donbass), but not its own people??? How long will any medical care be provided (free of charge) to other people’s children, when thousands of our children are actually dying due to lack of funds? If this is the policy of the government and the Guarantor, then you will inevitably wonder if these are the right people now at the head of Russia! It seems that one oligarch (who robbed the people) is more valuable to them than hundreds of thousands of his citizens! I have always been a patriot of Russia, but now, watching all the outrages being created, a lot of doubts have arisen in me... We live in the richest country, we have everything, but we beg like African savages! Think about whether it’s time to restore order in your country with your own hands! Of course, this needs to be done not according to Amer’s “multi-colored” scenarios, but in our own way, first by dispersing all the pro-American liberal “mosquitoes”, tearing their dirty tentacles away from our finances and economy! And first of all, by breaking all enslaving agreements such as the WTO and changing the CONSTITUTION, putting the interests of your country at the forefront, and not the so-called. international law (i.e. the USA), withdraw from all organizations that infringe on our sovereignty and independence! And then it will be clear who will bury whom first! So far they have us!
  67. +5
    1 August 2015 11: 06
    It is very easy to minimize or even completely eliminate the consequences of sanctions.

    1. Throw out all liberals and pro-Westerners from all levels of government, from the highest to the municipal.
    2. Adopt the Soviet experience of planning and regulation, which will allow you to directly influence prices and get rid of inflation.
    3. Start building the necessary factories with state money, and not wait for some investors.
    4. Nationalize the largest banks and create a banking system where economic growth, rather than profit, comes first.


    In my opinion, the most important steps, without which nothing can be done. Officials do nothing, they don’t implement Putin’s decrees and other chaos.
    1. 0
      1 August 2015 12: 08
      How to nationalize banks? It’s good to close all the dubious ones, which is what is being done today by 10 percent. The arbitrariness of the collectors is a separate issue. you need to start with capital, Marx wrote about this
      I don’t see any guarantees from borrowers yet. In a separate paragraph, the bank has the right to ... this is. namely, arbitrarily, because there are no other alternatives and there never will be
      how many fake loans.
      lack of confidentiality of client information, go prove that this is not another bank leak
      how many scams there are with plastic cards, pension accounts and social benefits
      no control
      you need to start with banks, but how?
      Who do you propose to put in charge of national banks?
      how to influence the mechanism for regulating the relationship of citizens with banks is the question
      1. 0
        2 August 2015 03: 55
        Quote: gerodot
        Who do you propose to put in charge of national banks?


        And I would invite Lavrenty Pavlovich.
      2. 0
        2 August 2015 13: 41
        During the collapse of the Soviet Union, four banks operated: Gos.bank, Sberbank, Rosselkhozbank and Vnesheconombank with branches. And they served a country no different from the current one. And we must not forget - the bank is the essence of a usurious Jewish office. Benefits -0 Replace with state bank branches. All of Asia lives without private banks. They live there according to the HAWALA system.
    2. +1
      2 August 2015 03: 53
      Quote: Eugene30
      In my opinion, the most important steps, without which nothing can be done. Officials do nothing, they don’t implement Putin’s decrees and other chaos.


      I read the article, everything is quite reasonable. And it seems that we have three options:
      1 - GDP begins an operation to destroy the enemies of the people and we feel good

      That's what I'm talking about.
  68. 0
    1 August 2015 11: 17
    Quote: Vadim237
    All the resources of our country are already owned by our campaigns.


    “our campaigns” – whose companies are these? And who is “ours” for you?
    1. -2
      1 August 2015 14: 40
      At least Lukoil, Gazprom, Rosneft, Norilsk Nickel, Rusal - I have a lot of shares in these companies in my portfolio and the state has a controlling stake, so they are ours.
  69. +1
    1 August 2015 13: 07
    People are working":
    An article from a “democratic” source, a beautiful “screaming” headline, fueled heated criticism of the authorities. Criticism-criticism-criticism. Often there are only emotions, without logic. Claims go to the head of state. Almost all complaints. And swearing, loud words (with an exclamation mark).
    Please note that at the level of emotions, without logic, you can find fault with anything.
    Sometimes it's good to learn from mistakes. Information attacks of “perestroika”, when people themselves began to say: “life is stagnant”, “we don’t know how to do things” (for example, cars), “we are the worst” (towards the USSR). It is better to learn from mistakes rather than repeat them.
    It may be hard, but try to imagine reality:
    "During 1951–1960, the USSR's GDP grew 2,5 times, with the volume of industrial production more than 3 times, and agricultural production by 60%. If in 1950 the level of industrial production of the USSR was 25% in relation to the USA, then in 1960 it was already 50%."
    Source without verification, but in general it seems to be true:
    http://историк.рф/special_posts/%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BD%D1%8B-%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B
    2%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9-%D1%8D%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B8
    %D0%BA%D0%B8/
  70. +3
    1 August 2015 13: 55
    Quote: afdjhbn67
    Although I am a supporter of Putin, but gradually begins to accumulate dissatisfaction with what is happening in the country and it’s not at all sanctions; on the contrary, it’s rather an indulgence for liberalists .. everyone can see that nothing is happening in the economy and spells help a little if you have such a profit in fat years, they didn’t even make a jerk Putin didn’t come close to this quietly shut up 10 percent. GDP growth per year about competition with China is not even funny. Putin will soon have one way out, either from spells to action, or everything will end, as always, Russia is actively loved first, then we don’t hate much less ...

    I would add 100 pluses to you. It's a pity that MANY ARE AFRAID think as you think.
  71. +1
    1 August 2015 14: 16
    Well, judging by the comments, gentlemen from overseas are slowly getting their way, it is impossible to create a liberal Maidan, they will do a “patriotic” Maidan, then any Maidan is beneficial for them!
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  73. +1
    1 August 2015 17: 12
    The article is a test. Checking the reaction of site readers.
    90% of the comments are either comrades from over the hill, or typical pzhif-przyvchiks, divorced from reality and drawing information from the Internet, which, of course, has been and will remain the main information dump.
    Particularly pleasing are the links to “official data” from Rosstat and other sources))). Maybe we can start referring to the wiki???
    Darlings! But who will be here in our - such a difficult time - to show you the true state of affairs,
    yes across all industries and regions. And I recommend to our other foreign friends to just come and stay with us. Maybe it’s enough to refer to how one of my friends came and told me that it’s getting worse and worse in Russia.
    We go to different parts of Europe several times a year - and there’s no need to rub us in for all the bullshit, like in the 90s. I’ll say right away that I don’t see the point in arguing with anyone, since I know very well who is writing and from where. But since we live in Russia now, we have never lived (obviously); neither under kings nor under general secretaries.
    For this I bow! Thanks to all.
  74. 0
    1 August 2015 19: 51
    Liberals are bad - that's right. They don't suit us. But the communists today are not the same. Lenin and Stalin may still be on the posters, and the banners may be red, but the Communist Party was degenerated a long time ago. Old slogans, aged party members, no new ideas, no development of theory. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation has long ago become an ordinary, philistine party, of a parliamentary type. There is no idea, goal, meaning that could captivate people. We whine, we grieve, we are indignant and we whine again. Where are the Heroes of our time?
  75. 0
    1 August 2015 19: 54
    One gets the feeling that an order is being carried out to destroy and dismember the country along the lines of Yugoslavia. And all liberal demagogues need permanent residence - to their homeland, to the West.
    1. 0
      1 August 2015 20: 47
      Don’t clutter your head with all sorts of left-wing articles, it’s harmful to the psyche.
  76. 0
    1 August 2015 20: 47
    Quote: Putin
    Lord, when will these cliques calm down? We're all dying and dying, but we're not going to die, but the peasants just can't calm down. We're all dying and dying, but we're not going to die, but the peasants just can't calm down. They croak and croak

    Merkel sympathized with her, but said that the law is the law, and political realities sometimes bring people inconvenience. Thousands of people are in refugee camps and it is simply impossible to satisfy everyone’s desire to live in Germany.

    Hearing this, Reem burst into tears. And Merkel clumsily tried to console her, stroking her head.

    After this television story, a discussion broke out in the country - what to do in a particular case and generally when deciding whether to grant any status to uninvited guests? Different kinds of human rights activists and sentimental housewives set the tone, touched by the tears of a young Arab woman. In the end, a political decision was made: the Sauil family should be granted a residence permit.

    Now Reem is in great demand among journalists. Die Welt am Sonntag correspondent Per Hinrich also got an "audience" with the heroine of the day. Noticing a map of a historic area called Palestine hanging in her room, Per asked what she knew about this land. It turned out that her grandparents were born there, but her parents were already born in Lebanon.

    “I hope to return to my homeland when Israel disappears and only Palestine remains.”

    The journalist clarified what she means.

    - A country like Israel should not exist; only Palestine can be on this earth.

    Hinrich, noting in a publication that Reem is a pretty, smart girl who spent a considerable part of her life in Germany and seems to be going to connect her life with this country, expressed bewilderment - how can you allow yourself to say this? And he asked the young virgin whether she knew that Israel and Germany have a special relationship, and that hatred of Jews is illegal in this country? To this, Reem, whose family remained in Germany, bypassing the law, said:

    - Here is freedom of speech and I have the right to express my thoughts.

    The journalist wrote that in general, the theme of 1948 and the flight of the Arabs, who did not manage to destroy the Jewish population of Israel, is called "nakba" in the Sauil family and constantly pops up in all conversations. That is, they brought their hatred with them, and it is unlikely that Reem, having matured, will change his views.

    Well, to us Jews, this hackneyed record of hatred of the Jewish state is well known. Israel is hated by millions of Arabs whose ancestors never lived on the promised land. I have repeatedly heard from Moroccan, Algerian, Egyptian and other Muslims the demand to return Palestine to them. Moreover, even the natives of Mali and Sudan speak about this, even having no relation to the Arab people. Grains of anti-Semitism fell into the soil carefully scattered by various propagandists and imams. And, unfortunately, they sprout in the souls and brains of those who were born already in Europe. They hate Israel even more than the countries that hosted their parents.

    Reem is another link in this chain of hatred, another Palestinian with brazen ideophobic ideology. Unfortunately, now she has a chance to make a career and influence others in the future.

    And European human rights defenders received another lesson in tolerance. Or, from their point of view of sympathy, only the sowers of discord are worthy, and by no means advocates of the peaceful coexistence of all peoples?
    1. 0
      2 August 2015 14: 00
      In principle, the state of Israel is artificially created by the victorious countries on territory belonging to Great Britain. Anyone who has read the Bible, namely the Old Testament, must understand that the Jews do not have the right to life. It is the Jews who are the inventors of loan capital. Wherever Christianity came, empires and states collapsed. The fixed idea in Israel is the HOLOCAUST. It has long been documented that there was no such total extermination of Jews in Germany. But this does not stop the Jews to this day from extorting money for the allegedly killed and burned Jews in the ovens of Buchenwald. On the eighth day, Jews should not undergo circumcision, but castration.
  77. +1
    1 August 2015 20: 50
    The socio-economic policy of the Russian state cannot be explained without
    the hypothesis according to which it developed in the early 1990s, back in the depths of the Union, as a tool
    plunder of the “Soviet heritage” and legalization of stolen goods in fashionable countries in
    as personal wealth. There is already little left of the “inheritance”, and with the legalization
    problems appear - but the machine is screwed together reliably in Soviet style and continues to thresh,
    destroying the country.

    Yes, what are the hypotheses, it’s simple. To destroy the USSR it was necessary:
    1 Corrupt the top, which was successfully done.
    2 Instill that the capitalist system is more advanced and efficient than the socialist one.
    3 Take out, if possible, all finances from Russia, thereby bleeding the economy
    4 Privatize by US agents and destroy the most efficient enterprises in Russia that bring in the greatest income.
    5 Destroy by any means through financing, killing scientists, etc. Russian military-industrial complex
    6 Destroy Russian pharmaceuticals
    7 To decompose morally, to what extent the younger generation, who did not know life in the USSR, will succeed
    8 Connect the Russian economy to the Western one, so that it becomes dependent on Western capital, and
    that means manageable. And will not be manageable, block funding, technology,
    industrial goods, essential goods, medicines.
    Something like that.
    And the Russian elite happily sold out, presenting the people with a fait accompli. So they had
    special dachas, special sanatoriums, special hospitals, special benefits and special salaries. But they didn't have houses in London,
    Paris, Dachas in the Canary Islands, own planes, ships, factories, ports, airlines,
    oil and gas fields, and how I wanted to have all this, not to mention the huge
    accounts in Western banks.

    The notorious sanctions deprived Russia of external lending - but the main damage was caused
    categorical reluctance of liberals to respond to the new situation and replace external loans
    internal.

    So that’s why the United States created a mess in Russia in the early 90s of the last century, to seize what?
    people had money that was in their savings bank accounts. And deprive Russia of internal financial
    resources, investments and lending. I don’t remember according to the information from the Pravda newspaper, in my opinion
    for 1993, the amount of people’s missing money in Sberbank accounts was 10 per annum
    country budgets. The USA, even though Zadornov says they are stupid, here they did everything right.
    A country without money is the same as a person without health! And our scum, it seems
    Chubais, Gaidar, Abalkin, Koch, Pavlov - the skins were for sale, sold for a small share
    Russia and the USA played along! And to this day the state is unable to return this money to the people,
    which have already been successfully exported abroad and work for the economies of the EU and the USA. Or they could, if
    correct use of working for Russia as investments and internal loans. No need
    Look for enemies outside, the most terrible enemy is always inside. The one who, hiding behind love for
    homeland and with patriotism happily sticks a mean knife in her back.
    1. 0
      1 August 2015 21: 00
      Thank you for your position
    2. 0
      2 August 2015 00: 21
      We are already disconnected from the Western economy and we don’t have liberals in management, but there are scammers and corrupt officials, most of them sit in place, plus complete carelessness in management and affairs, because if we had liberals in power, we would now have there was no Crimea as part of Russia, gold and foreign exchange reserves, the defense complex, the space industry, the embargo on European third-class food waste and much more - the authors of such bottom-line articles, and the complete collapse of the Russian economy, really liked to scare us with the Maidans and the 90s and with the help of this , have learned to ride the public’s brains well.
  78. +1
    1 August 2015 20: 57
    I live in Crimea and read that Gref believes that Crimea is not Russia... Russia urgently needs Ivan the Terrible...
  79. -1
    1 August 2015 21: 24
    Quote: afdjhbn67
    Although I am a supporter of Putin, gradually dissatisfaction with what is happening in the country begins to accumulate and it’s not sanctions at all, on the contrary, for liberals it’s more of an indulgence.. everyone can see that nonsense is going on in the economy

    Yes, a lot of unpleasant things happen.
    And while “friends” are hovering around the President, whom you can’t kick out with a tarpaulin boot, like Kudrin, who open their vile faces when they are pushed away from power (as soon as they were pushed away from the trough, Kudrin instantly appeared with the filth Nemtsov, Navalny and Co. on the stage) , a radical change is difficult to achieve. But he walks around smiling, “Putin’s friend.” Rotten.

    about competition with China is not even funny.

    Sorry for the question, of course, but how do you receive a pension, probably still use social benefits, and use a travel card?

    Take the first step towards starting a competition with China - courageously give up your pension and benefits! Let your children provide for you.

    Oh, you didn’t know that there is no social network in China. payments?
    Or did they know and are spreading cheap populism here, satisfying the ego and having fun in old age, earning pluses?

    Or maybe you would like to live in an area where 70% of groundwater is contaminated with chemical trash 1000 times higher than sanitary. norms?
    Maybe you are attracted to smog with approximately the same intensity of air pollution? To hold the Olympics in Beijing, all industry around the city had to be stopped. No one would understand how beautiful China even lives in such conditions.

    Or maybe you want your children to work on a Chinese salary in the absence of labor legislation?

    Competitors with China, damn it. You still have to compete with the slave-owning planters. We don’t need such “Great Leaps” to fill our pockets and destroy all living things around us.

    Putin will soon have one way out, either from spells to action, or everything will end as always. Russia is first actively loved, then hated just as much...

    Until all the “friends of the Kudrins” are squeezed out, at least from the highest echelons of power, we will have to read the spell “Expelling the scoundrel.”
    Don’t compare yourself to all of Russia, brave ego-pensioner.
    You have to work, you have to kick the evil spirits in the ass with a tarpaulin boot. There is no need to shout and squeal in your ear.
  80. 0
    1 August 2015 21: 24
    Quote: atalef
    Over 15 years, Russia's income from the sale of oil amounted to more than 3 trillion dollars. This is a huge amount of money, sufficient to transfer the country from a *commodity* economy to a developed production. No one limited Russia either financially or in the purchase of technology.


    Quote: atalef
    Even though Europe is a gayrope, it apparently wouldn’t accept another partner sitting behind it.

    At least decide whether Russia is a self-sufficient country or not. And your logic is as bad as Pooh's literacy. Do you really think that a country that has become a space powerhouse is not capable of mastering some super-wise Western technologies, easily, if only the government had the will and desire to do so? Or do you think that in Russia there are few resources, both material and intellectual, to give something to Geyropa!

    Quote: atalef
    In the 2000s, Russia developed remarkably, traded without problems, living standards grew - and no one in the West interfered with this.

    This is some kind of nonsense, did you even live in Russia at that time to say such a thing? But they didn’t interfere because more than 50% of the net industry and gas production were controlled by US corporations. As now, they did not impose sanctions on the RD-180 engines, that’s the whole reason.
    To be honest, I always considered Jews to be Arabs, which in essence they are. Only those Jews who went through the crucible of European or Russian civilization are more or less educated. Take any Jews who come from Africa, for example, but live in Israel, the complete opposite.
  81. +1
    1 August 2015 21: 46
    Quote: atalef
    State power (the Duma, etc.) has a free path to finance, and tomorrow you will have zilch left

    State power, state power is different! Under Stalin, the state government had the finances, so what? Dneproges, Komsomolsk on Amur, Chelyabinsk Tractor, Kharkov Tractor, Yakovlev Design Bureau, Tupolev Design Bureau, Lavochkin Design Bureau, Polikarpov Design Bureau and their corresponding aircraft factories, nuclear projects. And much more. Something that Gyoropa and China never dreamed of. The growth rate was simply unsurpassed even in our time. The groundwork was such that it was enough even for the freak Brezhnev!
    The current government is a thieve, but these are all the offspring of the United States, directly or indirectly, it doesn’t matter.
  82. +2
    1 August 2015 22: 47
    We need a leader....
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  84. +1
    1 August 2015 23: 23
    Come on, how can you get your butt off the couch and change something around you? Sweep the street near the house or mow the lawn.[/quote]
    Well done, spot on. You and I have all become critics, we criticize the authorities - they are bad, we teach doctors how to treat, builders how to build, how to teach teachers. Everyone mind your own business, GENTLEMEN, we will live the BEST life of all! We saw the straw in someone else's eye, but we don't notice the log in our own!!! Half the country of lawyers and economists who make up the office plankton (what can we say about Higher education, the diploma has no value, everyone is a tradesman, a graduate of someone International....), who will work, the village has been eaten up by optimizing costs, and there are theaters in the cities and the hospitals would be closed, do you go to the nearest village? For 100 km. Urbanization. Do you see operations carried out via Skype? For some reason, the Ministry of Health does not try effective treatment methods on itself. In villages, schools and kindergartens are closed, as well as medical posts and recreation centers, there is no need for people to go, they can’t always DECIDE the food program FOR YOU!!! If war happens, remember your relatives up to the 7th generation so that you know where to run. From there, boys still go to the army and plant potatoes. Are we complaining about the authorities, the laws? We elect deputies ourselves, they come up with laws. What? Are elections being rigged? How many of you go to them? You are your district deputy by full name. will you name it? Or a local police officer? The entire deputy corps are gymnasts, boxers, singers, artists, we put them there... But many of them are wrong about Putin, with him it’s no longer a shame to be Russian. Start with yourself before blaming everyone else. Russia is strong in its small towns and villages, villages, not capitals. They still give birth to children and don’t know that homosexuals and lesbians are people too. IMHO.
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    2. 0
      1 August 2015 23: 42
      There is nothing simpler to write and say.
    3. 0
      2 August 2015 00: 27
      We just recently have a lot of impulse cries that everything is bad, but the reality is different.
  85. +1
    1 August 2015 23: 24


    But also. For a referendum or what?
  86. 0
    2 August 2015 01: 35
    Quote: Alf
    And what plants have opened in your town? And how many of them have you closed?

    One closed, one opened. What should I do?
    And in these supermarkets whose products are produced and from whose raw materials made are sold? If in Soviet times I could safely eat potatoes from vegetables, then now, having eaten potatoes from Magnit or Crossroads, I can only guess whether the bottom will be knocked out or not knocked out?

    These may be adult stomach problems.
  87. +1
    2 August 2015 02: 14
    I have been building and constructing all over the country for 30 years now. I see how it is happening and what is happening, yes with a creak, and with kickbacks, BUT there is modernization and renewal, and roads, and energy (sorry, a professional in it), only our propaganda is still not working well. We need to talk more about achievements, and not drive BS. Believe me, everything is better than you imagine. And there are wonderful young people who can and want to develop and work, of course there are also those who go to SECURITY (wherever they work, as long as they don’t have to work hi
  88. +3
    2 August 2015 02: 48
    The word "liberals" does not fit our government. Why is it that at all levels of government they demand efficiency from a simple employee and do not accept any excuses other than the “death” of the performer. As soon as the question arises about the effectiveness of the government, a billion reasons are found that do not allow it to fulfill its responsibilities. During the period of the beginning of sanctions, all efforts were thrown into supporting the banks (at the same time, some have not yet paid off and are not going to give back the money previously poured into them, why IS THIS NOT A FRAUD???) In general, the further into the forest, the more DE..MA there is now. The entire government, without having worked a day in production, “knows perfectly well” what needs to be done. I agree with the author, until the state turns to the people or at least removes its ass, the number of billionaires and beggars will continue to grow. Moreover, the second one is 20 times faster. What kind of consumption can we talk about in this case?
  89. 0
    2 August 2015 03: 44
    The brave ego-pensioner gave me a minus)
    Don't you really want to give up your pension?? This is all for the sake of competition with China! You want to outdo China, right? Children for 200 bucks a month and urgently write a waiver of pension accruals! laughing


    By the way, for some reason you did not propose installing protective nets under the windows of factories in Russia so that workers would not commit suicide, as in China. This is because they have an overabundance of happiness and too much awareness of the successes that you look up to.
  90. 0
    2 August 2015 05: 46
    It’s the author of the article whose brains are at the bottom! It seems like a long time ago..
  91. +3
    2 August 2015 09: 38
    I live in the most beautiful country in the world.
    In my country, it is fashionable to talk about survival, buying yourself an iPhone.
    In my country, it is common to scold the police without encountering criminals even once in ten years.
    My country is commonly referred to as “Honduras” and compared to banana republics, despite having the world’s fifth-largest economy, nuclear weapons, and (currently) the world’s best space program.
    In my country, they like to talk about the pollution of cities, while throwing a bottle into the bushes. About extinction and degradation of the people, drinking beer.
    In my country, it is customary not to respect others, while demanding respect for yourself. Yes, this also applies to those who prefer theater and monogamy, believing that these preferences automatically put them on their heads above those around them.
    In my country, it is customary to assert oneself at the expense of others, especially being proud of spirituality or reproaching others for not wanting to think.
    In my country, they like to talk about a revolution, for which all the time there is not enough of a little: permission to fire a gun (and then suddenly the police will stop, and the revolution will not happen?) Or the right to crowd in front of the hospital.
    In my country, the opposition aims to completely discredit the very idea of ​​the opposition, and all its proposals are reduced only to criticism of eternal problems.
    But the most important thing is that in my country there are many good people who work honestly, create families and try not to interfere with others. It’s just a pity that their voices are not heard over the screams of millions of worthless whiners.
  92. 0
    2 August 2015 10: 16
    Ulyukaev said that: “Russia has reached the “economic bottom”” - he was in a hurry... now Russian liberals are actively looking for a crack, and when they find it, we will continue the “excursion”
  93. +1
    2 August 2015 15: 05
    Yes, a lot of comments have been written, which indicates that everyone’s soul is sore. But at the bottom it is not Russia, but the planet Earth, everyone who lives on its surface. She will soon hit herself from below thanks to what we are doing to her.
  94. 0
    2 August 2015 15: 24
    Quote: Uncle Joe
    Yah? And there is evidence of this tale?

    If the tragedy of people is just a fairy tale for you, then you are simply a stupid person.
  95. -1
    2 August 2015 15: 57
    Bullshit, afftor in the furnace!!!!!!!!!!!!
  96. 0
    2 August 2015 18: 37
    Quote: Uncle Joe
    http://bankrot.fedresurs.ru/AuReportList.aspx

    Is it okay that your two der*mographs don’t agree with each other?
    The left does not reflect the 20% reduction shown on the right.
    At the same time, the right graph is presented in such a way that there is a visual reduction of 50%.
    It is symbolic that even in the photograph the image is covered in some kind of dirt.
    1. -1
      2 August 2015 19: 20
      Quote: Mentat
      Is it okay that your two der*mographs don’t agree with each other?
      Nothing. But the lack of education of indignant excrementophiles does cause some inconvenience.

      The left does not reflect the 20% reduction shown on the right.
      On the left IPP, on the right there are a number of industrial enterprises.

      At the same time, the right graph is presented in such a way that there is a visual reduction of 50%.
      It is symbolic that even in the photograph the image is covered in some kind of dirt.
      And this is the problem of the inadequacy of your perception - that is, your subjective problem.
  97. -1
    2 August 2015 18: 40
    Quote: atalef
    Quote: gerodot
    The United States has one complaint about escalating the situation around Russia. The goal is complete subjugation, seizure of resources, extermination of the indigenous population.

    What for ?

    Because the only remaining systemic, civilizational competitor of the United States is Russia.
  98. 0
    2 August 2015 19: 27
    Quote: g1v2
    Well, I'm an engineer for example. I'm not complaining about life. There is a demand for techies. And the same welders or electricians are many where needed. Another thing is that in different regions the situation is different. But at the same time, the demand for techies in the RF as a whole is stable. At one time, quite a lot of people received an engineering education, but then worked not in their specialty. In my opinion, the solution to the problem is the obligatory state distribution of those who received free higher education. He worked for 3 years, and then go wherever you want. A person will get involved and continue to work in his specialty.

    I completely agree about government distribution. I remember how after college I was looking for a job. Experience was required everywhere. And here I worked for 3 years, and I have some experience.
  99. 0
    2 August 2015 20: 31
    [quote=user3970]Yes, yes... I am a small businessman in the past... The state now does not need welders, mechanics, electricians, carpenters... There is no production.[/quote]
    good
    In my region, there is a great need for welders, mechanics, and electricians. There are practically none.
    1. +1
      3 August 2015 09: 31
      Corporal. And what should I do? Apartment, parental home outside the city? I'm not an American or a cosmopolitan. What is your solution to the problem? I know that when there was an accident on a nuclear submarine in Vladivostok, welders had to be brought in from Severodvinsk to fix it.
  100. 0
    3 August 2015 07: 57
    Writing obvious things is of little merit, even if everything is written correctly and to the point.
    It would be better if specific lists of liberal traitors were published, if the authorities themselves cannot legally do anything with them, then at least they showed the people who is who, so that the people know their “heroes”.
    1. +1
      3 August 2015 10: 23
      But when they knock on the bottom, we’ll open it and see who will come out and who, on the contrary, will fall out of the hatch.
      It’s not for nothing that they run over the hill in packs with fireboxes, RUSNANO, for example. Putin needs to be provided with more power and more tangible support, so that at least he can move in manual control mode without looking back at those who determine the vector of foreign and domestic policy.

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