"American rays of pain" and lasers will appear on American warplanes

The command of the special operations of the US Air Force decided to equip heavy AC-130J Ghostrider fire support aircraft with combat lasers and active throw systems, the so-called “rays of pain” systems based on high-power microwave emitters, the newspaper writes "Sight".

It is planned that the new systems will be installed on the aircraft over the next five years. They will be upgraded to the Block 60 version of the machine, with microwave and laser weapons equip by no means all AC-130J.

According to the US Special Operations Command, laser weapons will be used to protect against various types of missiles, as well as to destroy boats, cars, communication systems and small aircraft systems. "Rays of pain" will be used against people, in particular, to disperse protesters. Researchers have already begun working on a project to equip the Ghostrider with microwave and laser weapons.

“Details about the weapons systems for the fire support aircraft are not specified. The active drop system has been developed since the second half of 1990-s. The“ ray of pain ”, belonging to the non-lethal impact weapon class, is a microwave radiator and antenna mounted on the HMMWV armored vehicle chassis “When a person is exposed to a 83 system’s radiation, a percentage of the radiation energy is absorbed by his skin. At the same time, the target experiences a strong burning sensation and, as a rule, seeks to escape,” the newspaper notes.

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[Andrey Yuryevich]

When a person enters the radiation of the system, 83 percent of the radiation energy is absorbed by his skin. In this case, the target experiences a strong burning sensation and, as a rule, seeks to escape, "the newspaper notes.

and if angry, and MANPADS tear from the shoulder?

[Chiropractor]

not in time - because MANPADS metal, then it will heat up first and fail

but why is it on a plane? to irradiate the crowd? for this and installing on the Humvee is enough ..

and before a person feels the skin heating, he will melt the zipper on his jeans, metal buttons, body jewelry and piercings ...

[Conductor]

Baikonur
"Rays of pain" will appear on American warplanes - FIRST! laughing
Scare-fart! from fear they don’t know what to think of in a more arrogant way!

Baikonur, I thought the Russian "troll factory" had already been closed, but no, one clown remained)

[afdjhbn67]

Is it worth it to spend so much energy on a fake article? still forgotten death rays add ...

[gridasov]

Worth it! In such discussions, there is not just an exchange of views, but also a search for solutions for developers. By the way, the same opponents in the person of the Americans conducted research and concluded that there will be a breakthrough in scientific ideas, namely, among independent researchers. And we are just at this site. By the way, we are promoting our ideas as already substantiated and objectively applicable. However, we are convinced that academic science is quite behind, for example, our achievements.

[Varyag_1973]

"Rays of pain" ... BDSM perverts damn it!

[Bayonet]

Quote: Kostoprav

and before a person feels the skin heating, he will melt the zipper on his jeans, metal buttons, body jewelry and piercings ...

With that radiation power, when the lightning on my pants melts, a person will not feel anything - just all the liquid in his body will boil.

[Wedmak]

With the radiation power when the lightning on the pants melts, a person will not feel anything

Is not a fact. A ray of pain is microwave radiation, such as in a microwave. Put a piece of meat and a metal button in the microwave, turn it on and see the result.
The metal reflects microwaves, but it heats up much faster than a piece of meat containing water.

[gridasov]

The structure of the metal with the corresponding email. magnetic exposure does not allow potential energy to be removed outside the outer shell of the material, and in water potential energy transforms both the volume and structure of the water substance itself. as an integral element. Therefore, to heat this component of the body to a striking level of 41 degrees, not so much directed energy is needed. And no need to warm the zippers and fasteners.

[Wedmak]

You can be heard. Potential energy, transformation .... Gee. I’ll tell you easier. The thermal conductivity of the metal is higher, and the heat capacity is lower than that of water. That's the whole trick ... and then the transformation, energy ...

[gridasov]

I will not argue, but the heat capacity, electrical conductivity and other terminological concepts have their own basis and therefore we can talk about the reasons that contribute to thermal conductivity and everything else. So the conversation can be simpler, but on different fundamental principles.

[Svetlana]

Due to the skin effect, microwave rays do not penetrate deep into the conductive metals. But due to the fact that the thermal conductivity of the metal is higher and the heat capacity is lower than that of water, the metal buttons in the microwave heat up faster than a piece of meat - to heat the metal, that small fraction (usually less than 1%) of the energy of the incident microwave beam is absorbed into the skin -layer. More than 99% of the energy of microwave rays incident on the surface of the metal is reflected from the metal, just as a solar bunny is reflected from the mirror.
But (thanks to the reflected microwave radiation) metal bodies are clearly visible on radar screens (if their characteristic dimensions are much larger than the microwave electromagnetic wave length, which for microwaves described above ranges from fractions of a millimeter to several centimeters)

[gridasov]

You are absolutely right ! BUT within the limits of the level of understanding that is justified by modern achievements. However, it is worth saying and justifying it on the fact that deep into the metal (everything is very individual), interference waves or perturbations of sufficiently wide parameters penetrate deep into the metal. Let me try to draw an analogy of how fractal lines are calculated. That is, when calculating, for example, coastlines, an increase in fractal divisions allows you to more accurately describe them. The same is with wave processes, we take into account the frequencies and amplitudes, but if we add the spin and the change in the densification period, then the algorithmic dependence on these parameters will quite fully describe the essence of the wave processes themselves. This means that some of the disturbances will indeed be reflected and perceived by known devices, but some of the disturbances that coincide in energy levels will cause changes within the structure of the material. And everything happens quite well in biologically "living" materials. The point is that in a liquid an external disturbance on the separation surface causes an increase in the potential energy of the liquid, which is expressed in the dynamics of transformation and interaction of jets. Therefore, from what has been said and I will repeat myself, it is necessary to come to a substantiation of the terms thermal conductivity, heat capacity and electrical conductivity. Only then can we first find mutual understanding, and then the direction for solving real problems.

[engineer74]

In the United States, the sale of MANPADS is prohibited, it seems ...
And where else can I use such weapons ...

[pomegranate]

Rays of pain and sounds of fear

[mirag2]

Rays of pain and sounds of fear

Rays of good and bending)))

[RUSIVAN]

Beams "imba"))

[Comrade Bender]

And also space blasters, laser swords and a "death star" under the pilot's seat.

[lelikas]

Quote: Comrade Bender

And also space blasters, laser swords and a "death star" under the pilot's seat.

The main thing is not to be confused - the good ones have colored laser swords, while the bad ones have red ones!

[lexx2038]

It seems that their people are going to pacify. Humanists damn it.

[NEXUS]

Quote: lexx2038

It seems that their people are going to pacify. Humanists damn it.

It is not clear the scope of application of these wunderwatches ... in war, how this fool in the form of a transporter will use something there if she is shot down before the pilot says "shoo".

[Yun Klob]

And where to run from the plane? They lie again, bastards.

[Proxima]

Tired of these informational stuffing about lasers, designed for illiterate taxpayers. If at least someone tries to understand laser physics, then there will be no more questions. The main physical criterion for a laser weapon is its damage energy. The most powerful ABL COIL laser today is 1 megawatt. Is it a lot or a little? For a weapon that they want to advertise so much, it's nothing. For comparison, the power of a shot of a 76 mm F-22 divisional gun is exactly 150 times more! Now compare the cost of the gun of the Second World War and the laser, worth many millions of dollars. And these exaggerated tests, when the laser irradiated the rocket for 8 seconds and it exploded? Where are such ideal conditions to be found during hostilities?

[Imperialkolorad]

When will they finally be given the Death Star?

[DIVAN SOLDIER]

Rather, someone will give them .. an death death.

[Swed]

This question has already been raised, here is an excerpt:
A petition requesting the construction of the Death Star was unveiled in December 2012 as part of the We the People voter legislative initiative. More than 25 thousand people put their signatures on the petition after which, according to the rules of "We the People", the presidential administration was obliged to consider the appeal and give an answer to it.

Paul Shawcross, the head of the Department of Science and Space of the White House's Office of Management and Budget, had to answer the petition for the construction of the Death Star. He named at least three reasons why this project will not be implemented: 1. "The construction of the Death Star will cost 850 quadrillion dollars, and we are trying to reduce the budget deficit, not increase it"; 2. "The presidential administration does not support the idea of ​​destroying planets"; 3. "Why spend huge taxpayers' money on a Death Star with a fundamental flaw that the pilot of a single-seat spacecraft can take advantage of?"

[Wedmak]

Flying Bradley development? The cannons on board, the lasers and the "rays of pain" are straight. As the operator did not confuse the buttons ...

[shadow]

Bullshit all. How much has been written, filmed, said, but the result is one: not suitable for use.

[1536]

Americans are going to fight with the natives, it seems!

Maybe I’ll say stupidity, but there was an episode in the history of Ancient Greece when Odysseus, sailing past the island of sirens, covered his ears with wax so that they would not hear the "mellifluous" calls of its inhabitants. So easily, even before our era, the question of the enemy's auditory effect on the psyche of soldiers was resolved.

[Wedmak]

Of course stupidity, because Americans use infrasound that you don’t hear, but its effect is very effective. PS, fleece in the ears will not help.

[gridasov]

If at the bottom of the scale email. magnetic influences, including the acoustic range, then infrasound causes a completely definite effect on the human body and psyche. And if on the upper part of the scale, then the impact is carried out already on several other elemental components of the organism. For example, when exposed to the "liquid" part, the effect is the level of cavitation, and therefore "boiling-heating". But different levels of the wave action range act differently on different components of the same liquid components, depending on the concentration.
It is very interesting that scientists perceive an exclusively concentrated ray vector of transmission of the e-disturbance. magnetic impact. However, there is also a radial spatial disturbance. In other words "cloud". But this requires fundamentally different methodologies and devices.

[Wedmak]

Oh, how ... it could have been easier.
Infrasound, sound waves of low frequency, can affect the body in the range from feelings of discomfort and panic fear to cardiac arrest, rupture of blood vessels, failures in the nervous system. The main thing is to choose the frequency. It spreads very far, there is no effective protection.
Ultrasound, high frequency sound waves. Often perceived as a squeak, but with increasing frequency and strength, it can even cause physical damage. The propagation range depends on the density of the medium and varies from tens of kilometers to several millimeters.

If at the bottom of the e-mail scale magnetic influences, including the acoustic range

And yes. Sound is not an electromagnetic wave. This is a compression and rarefaction of the medium.

[gridasov]

I would say that sound is a derivative of the response of the environment to the corresponding level of vibration in the more fundamental structures of this environment. The process is algorithmic. When people stand in front of each other and communicate in a direct dialogue, then all at first transmit a complex of indignations, first on Wednesday, and already she gives this information to her partner. But this must be understood! This means that communication, in this case, can be complex from tactile contacts to highly developed at the level of environmental disturbance in more "dense" fractal structures. It is said of course difficult. But in fact everything is simple

[Wedmak]

It is said of course difficult. But in fact everything is simple

Well, of course it's hard to say. According to your explanation. What a damn complex of disturbances ... which process is algorithmic?
Why use abstruse language to describe the simplest things?

[gridasov]

Integrated, this means a lot of interconnected factors and processes participate in the process, and we consider only the particular level between the premises of the phenomenon under consideration and the consequences. That is, any particular considered solution or phenomenon is clamped in the space of transformations both in vector and in potential and in the dimension of interactions. Algorithmic, this means that everything happens sequentially in the parameters of various influences both within the process itself and in external influences.

[Samarin]

Oh yes, rays of pain ... waves of sadness ... vibes of anxiety ...

[morph]

It has long been known that gunship planes are "open skies" punitive machines, it is clear how and against whom they will be used, so even if tanks with shit and sprinklers of pork skin are installed on them ... just a little of them

[jaguarstas]

I can see how a massive transport aircraft flies over the demonstrators in New York (between skyscrapers, without getting tangled in the wires) and extinguishes everyone with a "ray of pain". The demonstrators were like: "Ah, damn it! It hurts, damn it! Let's go home, perhaps! Why, in fact, did we come here?" And they run away, trying to hide ...

[igordok]

Quote: jaguarstas

I can see how a massive transport aircraft flies over the demonstrators in New York (between skyscrapers, without getting tangled in the wires) and extinguishes everyone with a "ray of pain". The demonstrators were like: "Ah, damn it! It hurts, damn it! Let's go home, perhaps! Why, in fact, did we come here?" And they run away, trying to hide ...

What for? Free food warming up.

[HAM]

N-yes, they stick, then they stick, but for starters, at least an ordinary cannon would be stuck to the F-35mu ......., otherwise it’s not serious, they threw one toy, let's cut another.

[shuhartred]

Quote: HAM

N-yes, stick it they stick, but for starters, at least an ordinary gun would stick to the F-35mu ....

Yes, it seems they stuck already. Six-barrel, I do not remember the caliber, either 23 or 25mm.

[jaguarstas]

When a person gets under the radiation of the system, 83 percent of the radiation energy is absorbed by his skin. In this case, the target experiences a strong burning sensation and, as a rule, tends to run away

In my opinion, this is sadism. Naked.
If you imagine the consequences of such an action?
Many unarmed residents who went to the protest lie with skin burns. Some of them will die immediately from pain shock. Part of infection with an extensive burn. The other part will be rehabilitated for the rest of their lives, wishing that they simply weren’t shot then ...
Is it like "democracy"? Is this "people's power"?

[HAM]

Immediately suffer eyes, protein is boiled.

[corporal]

Quote: jaguarstas

lie with skin burns

For those who are not "in the subject": this device only causes pain, as from a burn, but does not heat the skin in any way.

[gridasov]

The thermal effects felt on the surface of the skin are quite different from the electromagnetic effects that affect the "water-component" organs. Hence, an increase in the general body temperature up to the transformation of protein components. And this is not such a high temperature.

[Wedmak]

The impact is not on the skin, but on the nerve endings. Hence the pain. And the temperature does not rise much.

[gridasov]

I would describe how and what the skin consists of and how the effect begins at various levels. But it will be a long description. In general, it can be said that everything differs in levels and damage ability and in susceptibility and in response to this susceptibility. But the nobility imagine that it is enough to cause the pilot an unbearable and distracting itch so that the deadly machine becomes uncontrollable or blue. And itching can be caused at any level of parts of the body or organs, as a reaction to email. magnetic disturbances. Including through peripheral nerve connections and endings. Etc

[VALERIK_097]

direct advertising - carry a thermopod of a well-known company

[gridasov]

What the hell advertising. The thing to do!

[BilliBoms09]

Again, Amer’s military-industrial complex is cutting money. A small list of USA prodigies: a gay bomb, a Boeing laser gun, a microwave gun, etc. nothing works fine.

[ROMAN VYSOTSKY]

Looks like some kind of scam in the American military-industrial complex.
Could immediately set the engineer hyperboloid Garin.
The result will be the same.

[provincial]

"Beams of pain and lasers will appear on American warplanes." - we will see and evaluate how they appear.

[VladimS]

Quote: Shadows

Bullshit all. How much has been written, filmed, said, but the result is one: not suitable for use.

Notably sawn loot.

[gridasov]

Not read there. Ranges of exposure according to certain parameters of both the source of exposure and the damaging effect are known. Just, for now, there is no breakthrough in the energy supply of the process, but everything is just around the corner. And whoever makes a breakthrough will for some time have absolute dominance, and this will create prerequisites for the future.

[tomcat117]

"American rays of pain" and lasers will appear on American warplanes

I assume that the Indos with a 100% probability, when both sides approach each other, can use "pain" beams on parallel courses or lasers on oncoming ones to blind our pilots flying along their borders.
I think that in this case, if there are already the first signs of using these funds against our pilots, the response from our board should be instantaneous in automatic mode, without the intervention of the pilot (he will have no time) - both against the enemy pilot and against their electronics "so that the service does not seem like honey to indos.".
The topic is very relevant, everything will happen without witnesses, and then look for someone where for some reason fell and crashed.

[prostofily]

Breeeeeddddd. Nonsense.

[Sanain]

I remember these rays of pain, the last time the Americans used them (a car with a microwave to disperse the rally), the soldiers (who tested the weapons) received a giant dose of radiation.

[AdekvatNICK]

ray of pain in a bastion of democracy

[Tor5]

I do not really believe in the effectiveness of such systems, let them have fun, the more they spend on toys, the less will remain on really important things.

[Ze Kot]

Quote: Wedmak

Oh, how ... it could have been easier.
Infrasound, sound waves of low frequency, can affect the body in the range from feelings of discomfort and panic fear to cardiac arrest, rupture of blood vessels, failures in the nervous system. The main thing is to choose the frequency. It spreads very far, there is no effective protection.
Ultrasound, high frequency sound waves. Often perceived as a squeak, but with increasing frequency and strength, it can even cause physical damage. The propagation range depends on the density of the medium and varies from tens of kilometers to several millimeters.

If at the bottom of the e-mail scale magnetic influences, including the acoustic range

And yes. Sound is not an electromagnetic wave. This is a compression and rarefaction of the medium.

6 Hz

[gridasov]

By the way, protection from infrasonic influences is not so complicated in terms of methodology. In three words - "the wedge is knocked out by the wedge"

[erseer]

and what kind of energy sources will feed all this crap on board an airplane?

[gridasov]

In fact, there are several excellent algorithms for how you can get electric current. This means that methods for creating an alternating magnetic field are only one particular solution for such achievements. Therefore, we can talk about the method of directional dynamic action on various materials and thereby causing a potential difference and the emf in it. Therefore, in particular, a flying plane at various speed levels can use the ionizing effect of air on the surface of the outflow and, through energy density concentrators, give this energy to the consumer. At the same time, as is natural and understandable, the costs are already in the external echelon of interactions, which means that they do not require separate additional devices or additional ones. weight, nor dimensions. It is only necessary to correctly consider completely different topological parameters of both the surface and the variable properties of the medium.

[Wedmak]

They put in an additional turbine with a generator and that's it. There is enough space there.

[gridasov]

This is certainly possible, but this is a continuation of marking time. There is no progress, or it is of little significance. Correctly constructed algorithmic processes in their organization allow them to move without stopping and being confident in the correctness of the chosen vector of development, and not taking "one step forward and two backward."

[AdekvatNICK]

demonstrators will quickly come up with their "tin foil hats" for any beam.

[Vadim237]

These demonstrators, in foil caps, will be burned with a laser.

[Thunderbolt]

On January 1, 1972, US intelligence spotted the first S-75 anti-aircraft missile system located next to the Ho Chi Minh trail. The AS-130A faced a mortal threat, so if the crews of the aircraft learned to avoid hits from anti-aircraft batteries, simply without entering the zone of their destruction, then the clumsy Hercules did not have salvation from surface-to-air missiles.

In fact, combat missions to hunt for vehicles of these aircraft should have been immediately stopped, but the US Air Force command could not afford this - the effect of using the AC-130A was too great. Despite the real threat, the AC-130A continued to "hammer" along the roads, making them corridors of death.

On March 31, the first AS-130A was shot down by the fire of an anti-aircraft battery with radar guidance. Fifteen crew members managed to escape by parachute. Literally 2 days later, the missiles of the S-75 anti-aircraft missile system shot down another AS-130A, but its crew could not escape. On May 12, 1972, a new formidable weapon of the Strela MANPADS was used against the AS-130A, the plane was hit by a missile launched from the shoulder; the crew was able to reach the air base. The increasing loss of expensive aircraft forced to completely rethink the tactics of using the AC-130, since this aircraft could only operate where the concentration of air defense systems was absent or was not very large.http://armsofwar.ru/v-centre-vnimaniya/1570-vozdushnye-linkory-as-130.html

[Corsair0304]

I do not understand at all how the Americans imagine the use of a cargo plane with Rays of Pain.
We take an average city (not even a megalopolis) with demonstrators (for example, blacks and fighters for same-sex marriage). We expose this crowd to the city street with posters and speeches and send this super-pepelats to the same place.
Question: for how long and at what height will the pepelats fly over the demonstrators to irradiate them so that they scatter?
second question: what about the people who at that time just sit in the cafe and take pictures of all this action on their mobile phones? Well, along with the police, who can stand in line along the way of demonstrators.
third question: and all other metal objects in the city will also heat up (poles there, cars, railings, and sewer manhole covers in the end) Oh! the most important thing is how, for example, cell towers will react to all this electromagnetic disgrace?

And so on, so forth, further ...

[Blackmokona]

Such flies in Afghanistan, Iraq or another standard place of democracy. The Islamists are pulling out a large crowd of women and children, and under its cover they are preparing an attack on the base or convoy.
A plane boarding at high altitude detects this action and strikes, the crowd scatter depriving the Islamists of their cover.

[Back in USSR]

Well, right: what else should the fascists do? ..