Light of mind

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No, and do not argue, the funniest phrase I've heard over the past year (where every KVN and Petrosyans are!) Is the phrase Poroshenko’s usurper on the “celebration of the death” of Vladimir the Red Sun.

Agree, the phrase "And we have shone the light of reason" from the director of the Ukrainian madhouse - this is epic.



But what the hell is the director? So, Zits-chairman Hryunt under the present vicar - Jeffrey Payette. The whole essence of the Ukrainian nationalists and “non-zalezhnikov” a few years ago was issued by Mr. Rybachuk, saying that “if Karl XII had won the Battle of Poltava, then we would live near Sweden”.

Oh, this is a Galician sado-maso, a slave dreaming of a master of stricter. Of the Russian bad owners, they are equal to the Ukrainians, the brothers believed. Here are the Swedes, the Germans or the Americans - this is another matter. You can drop voluptuously to the master's boot and lick, lick, lick ...

And now Poroshenko's impostor, the “president of the world”, kneeling and throwing a crocodile tear, asks the gamers of the gamers to send him 1240 “Dzhevelinov”. Although Wikipedia tells us that, most likely, such a number of them does not exist in nature (in the US Army there are only 950 units in service, and in other countries there are orders of magnitude smaller, in a couple dozen).

And even if they had given them, then their further fate was predictable - half of them would be sold to Iraq by ISIS militants, the second half would have been seized by the militia of New Russia. As it was with the widely advertised SAU 2C7 "Peony", three of which were restored from the warehouses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, after which one was destroyed and two were taken as trophies under Debaltseve.
However, we are about the "light of reason shone." Just tell me in which madhouse you can talk about Russian aggression and at the same time ask for urgent supplies of electricity from Russia (such as an “aggressor”), because they themselves have no coal (and this is the middle of summer!) And, moreover, imbeciles from “volunteer »Battalions shot large thermal power plants?

Or in which madhouse praising Hitler Bandera as Georgy Tuk can simultaneously say "We have reached Berlin, and we will reach Rostov"? Your ancestors in Berlin could only be as Ostarbeiters or saboteurs in the Abwehr intelligence schools! On the last days of the pratsyuvaty guards in concentration camps ...

So why all this "shone the light of the mind"? And to celebrate (!) The death of Prince Vladimir, the Baptist of Russia. At this celebration, Pan Poroshenko, who not long ago was shouting hysterically "Orthodox Bitch," talked about the historical deed of Vladimir.



And long and tastelessly talked about the "European choice" of Prince Vladimir. He himself understands what nonsense carries, but can not abandon his official mythology. Ukraine is not going to take in the EU. Ukraine does not give a visa-free regime. Ukrainians do not even give a visa to the EU. Nobody needs Ukraine in the EU. Ukraine did not receive any benefit from European integration, only losses. But, as the well-known meme says, “You can’t just give up the illusion of European integration.”

And, when we two years ago directly warned: there will be no EU membership, there will be no visa-free regime, there will be no increase in wealth, there will be no Western investments, the eurolomics are not listened and continued to ride. However, they still obediently continue to eat this foul, ahem, guano.
Poroshenko, a “beacon of reason”, spoke about Vladimir's European Christian values. But Europe (that part of it that the Piglet sings about) is Catholic! And during these centuries, she has repeatedly sent her crusades to the Orthodox world, beginning with 1147, continuing with the Northern campaigns and never, by and large, ending her attempts to conquer and enslave the Orthodox world.

Poroshenko mumbled something about the fact that "Vladimir is a Ukrainian prince." Did Vladimir know about this? Is there any mention of Ukraine of that period? Is there at least one chronicle "Vladimir, Prince of Ukraine"? No such in storiesand never was.

You, mankurts, have no family, no tribe, no history. Everything you invent, everything you lie. And nothing is built on a lie, from a lie everything just collapses. You have neither history nor spirituality.

But you, Valtsman, you will never even pronounce the name of Bogdan Khmelnitsky. Because Zinoviy Bogdan Khmelnitsky, a Russian colonel (as he himself wrote “hereditary Russian szlachtich”), such “European integrators” like you hung on the nearest aspens.

And bequeathed "Forever with Russia." And you, mankurts, the ancestors' covenants sold for American cookies.

Prince Vladimir was Russian. You would, Pocia, even read the history, for a change! Vladimir was the prince of Novgorod, and Kiev took the force. However, as the Novgorod princes did it before and after it.

You are not a tree, you have no roots. You are a projection of delirium on the water, and your crazy mythology is crumbling, falling apart in the same way. One has only to blow the slightest breeze ...
Orthodox you writhe yourself. To Vladimir wriggle. And who are you? Dummies are hypocritical, but sui puppet occupational administration.

I will tell you what you are "Orthodox." Roman Nikolaev, an Orthodox priest who was shot by your Nazi geeks, died in Kiev today in Kiev.

Today in Kiev, the 64-year-old nun of the Kiev Ascension Florovsky Convent Alevtina is murdered. She was found killed with traces of violence: her arms tied, all her ribs broken, all the internal organs injured.

Here you are "peacemakers", "legitimate authorities", "Orthodox" and "patriots".

"Shone the light of the mind"? Yes, darker for several centuries was not!
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  1. +1
    31 July 2015 14: 33
    Right! An inverted trident is an ideal stylized image of a fly agaric!)))
    1. 0
      31 July 2015 14: 35
      Ha! this fly agaric
      "... the light of reason shone!"
      HOW can something shine there when it is dark there, like a black man in .ope! laughing
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    2. +10
      31 July 2015 15: 11
      Petyun is always at a crossroads!
      1. 0
        31 July 2015 21: 18
        Quote: Major Yurik
        Petyun is always at a crossroads!
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        1 August 2015 21: 06
        Smiled! You reminded me of an old Soviet joke about how scientists made, excuse me, shit oil and when asked how success they answered, they are already spread well, but there is no way to eat it yet!
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  3. +5
    31 July 2015 14: 37
    Recently, a neo-Nazi and volunteer of the Aidar battalion Vita Zaverukha was detained in Kiev. She is suspected of involvement in the murders of ex-employees of the "Golden Eagle" and publicist Oles Buzina. Meanwhile, it became known that while in the detention center, Zaveruha bit her veins.
    1. +12
      31 July 2015 14: 38
      Quote: st25310
      Meanwhile, it became known that while in the detention center, Zaveruha bit her veins.

      Oh come on, she’s not capable of it. Well it’s not ponty pound, but throw ridges. Her courage for this is not enough.
      1. +4
        31 July 2015 18: 04
        such will never kill themselves, too cowardly. They are able only in their midst to be bold, and as they come across at once, everything in it becomes limp like slug under the salt.
      2. 0
        31 July 2015 21: 35
        if the information is true, the girl can be seen seriously pressed, what information does she have that she is so afraid to disclose
        1. +2
          1 August 2015 17: 34
          me a girl too. there’s nowhere to put samples on it
    2. +5
      31 July 2015 14: 54
      She didn’t gnaw anything. Typical discharge and PR
      1. 0
        1 August 2015 21: 26
        Quote: vkl-47
        She didn’t gnaw anything. Typical discharge and PR

        In-in, take at least prostitutes - almost every scars on his hands, but VERY not deep. laughing
    3. +4
      31 July 2015 15: 00
      Quote: st25310
      Recently, a neo-Nazi and volunteer of the Aidar battalion Vita Zaverukha was detained in Kiev

      If I am not mistaken, this ... dvchina was detained back in May for her involvement in the murder of policemen in Kiev, and recently a trial took place, and Buzina was not "sewn" to her there, if I’m not mistaken. With respect.
  4. +9
    31 July 2015 14: 39
    Very emotional, but true.
    Prince Vladimir was Russian. You would, Potsya, at least read history, for a change! Vladimir was Prince of NOVGOROD, and Kiev took by force
    This is especially liked.
    1. 0
      31 July 2015 15: 20
      from wikipedia:
      In 977, a civil war broke out between Yaropolk and his brothers, the prince of the Drevlyansk land Oleg and the Novgorod prince Vladimir ...
      After the news of the beginning of the civil strife, Vladimir fled from Novgorod "overseas", so Yaropolk became the ruler of the whole Old Russian state.
      In 980, Vladimir returned to Russia with the Varangian army. First he recaptured Novgorod, then captured Polotsk and then moved to Kiev.

      So the usual thing, when the Kiev princes sent their sons to reign in strategically important cities. And feuds between the heirs (besides from different wives) also happened from time to time ...
      1. +2
        31 July 2015 15: 42
        Quote: reservist
        So the usual thing, when the Kiev princes sent their sons to reign in strategically important cities.

        In Veliky Novgorod, the prince "appointed" Veche, and not Kiev or some other princes, by the way, Kiev "squeezed" Rurik from the glades at the head of the Novgorod squad, precisely as an "elected" prince, and Gardariki with the capital in Veliky Novgorod (Halmgard) , known before the mention of "Kievan Rus" and Kiev, as the capital. By the way, the privilege of Veliky Novgorod to elect a prince for himself was "lost" only by Ivan IV the Terrible in 1570, and before that, the Novgorodians more than once handed out "spreading zvizduly" to Muscovites and Mongols, including the Khan of the White Horde Tokhtamysh, after the burning of Moscow in 1382, and Novgorod did not pay tribute to anyone, neither to Moscow nor the Horde, but Astrakhan, if I am not mistaken, was burned three times. And Vladimir is a Novgorod prince from the Rurikovich family, and he chose Kiev as the capital because of its favorable location (trade routes, strategic location, etc.). With respect.
        1. +2
          31 July 2015 15: 53
          so Novgorod became Great (i.e., the first free republic in Russia) after more than a hundred years, in 1136
          The Novgorod Veche was first mentioned under the year 1016, when it was convened by Yaroslav the Wise ...
          Novgorod the Great paid tribute to the Horde, but it seems that the Novgorodians collected it themselves, i.e. Khan's Baskaks, they "did not stand"
          and did Oleg transfer the capital of the Old Russian State to Kiev from Novgorod in 882?
          Mutually hi
          1. +1
            31 July 2015 16: 01
            Quote: reservist
            so Novgorod became Great (i.e., the first free republic in Russia) after more than a hundred years, in 1136

            The Republic - yes, but Rurik chose the Novgorod Veche, as he later called for the reign of Alexander Nevsky (prince, not a clan laughing ), and about the tribute, I can certainly be wrong, but Tokhtamysh went there just to "punish" the Novgorodians for refusing to pay tribute, and even before that the Horde khans had sent Moscow princes to punish Novgorod, but Muscovites "failed", and the Novgorodians did not take the capital of the Horde time. I learned history for a long time, I can be wrong, do not judge strictly. hi With respect.
            1. +1
              31 July 2015 17: 25
              Rurik was called to Novgorod in 862
              Baptism of Novgorod - 990-991
              Novgorod Veche was first mentioned in 1016
              Alexander Yaroslavich Nevsky became the Prince of Novgorod in 1236

              Unable to come to an agreement among themselves, the tribes of the Krivichi, Chudi, Vesi and Ilmen Slovenes, who then inhabited the Novgorod land and had their own "tribal" cities (Ladoga, Izborsk and Beloozero), called Rurik to reign.
              It is doubtful that all the tribes of the Novgorod land in 892 were able to gather at one Veche to decide who to choose to reign, at least in the story of the Provisional Years about the Veche, who chose Rurik (and about alternative candidates for the post of Novgorod prince), there is no mention. It is possible that the "princely question" was then decided by the tribal elders.
            2. 0
              31 July 2015 18: 05
              Quote: fyvaprold
              and Novgorodians took the capital of the Horde more than once

              and when and which of the Novgorodians took the capital of the Horde?
              1. 0
                1 August 2015 13: 43
                Quote: reservist
                and when and which of the Novgorodians took the capital of the Horde?

                I don’t remember the dates by name, but it’s definitely earlings. With respect.
                1. 0
                  3 August 2015 12: 33
                  Indeed, Novgorodians took a couple of times and once Vyatichi
                  Campaigns Ushkuynikov to protect the Eastern borders of
                  1360 year. Ushkuyniki, swimming down the river. Volga, made their first raids on the Horde city of Zhukotin on the river. Kame and killed the Tatars. Khan Khizr demanded that Dmitry Suzdalsky, as the Grand Duke, capture and surrender these earflaps. Instead of fulfilling the demand of the khan, according to the decision of the princes of Suzdal, Nizhny Novgorod and Kostroma in Kostroma, the boyars fed the ushkuyniks who returned from the campaign, tied them up and sent them to the Horde. Captives taken in Russia were sold into slavery. This fact indicates that the ushkuniki refused to serve the khan and raise their weapons against their fellow tribesmen.
                  1363 year. Trekking to Western Siberia, to the Ob River, under the command of Governor Alexander Abakunovich and Stepan Lyapa. Most likely the campaign is related to an attempt to liberate comrades who were sold as slaves.
                  1366 year. Novgorod boyars Osip Varfolomeevich, Vasily Fedorovich and Alexander Abakunovich smashed the caravans between Nizhny Novgorod and Kazan. The Khan of the Golden Horde addressed an order to his subject, the Moscow prince Dmitry Ivanovich (the future Donskoy). Dmitry sends a formidable letter to Novgorod. Boyars of Novgorod answer with a formal reply: "Young people went to the Volga without our word, but they did not rob your guests (merchants), only the bastard was beaten."
                  1369 year. Hiking on the river. Volga and Kame.
                  1369–1370 Ushkuyniki took Kostroma and Yaroslavl. These raids took place in connection with the enmity of Novgorod with the Tver prince, who planted his governors in Kostroma and the Novgorod suburb of Bezhetsky Top.
                  1398–1399 - They fought for the Northern Dvina.
                  1370 year. Hiking on the Volga River.
                2. 0
                  3 August 2015 12: 33
                  1374 year. Hike on 90 ears. The third time they took the city of Bolgar (near Kazan), then went down and took Sarai itself - the capital of the Golden Horde .; part of ushkunikov descended to the south, another went east; This year, Ushkuyniki founded the town of Khlynov (Vyatka);
                  1375 year. Under Prokop’s command, the number of 1500 attackers killed the five thousandth army of the Kostroma governor Pleshcheyev and captured Kostroma. After resting a couple of weeks in Kostroma, the ears moved down the Volga. By tradition, they paid a "visit" to the cities of Bolgar and Saray-Berke. The rulers of the Bolgar, taught by bitter experience, paid off with a large tribute, but the khan's capital Sarai-Berke was taken by storm and plundered. From 1360 to 1375, the ushkuniki made eight large trips to the Middle Volga, not counting small raids.
                  1391 year. Trekking to Zhukotin. “Novgorodians and Ustyuzhans and others who have come together have left for us and in the ears with the river Vyatka down.”
                  1409 year. Voivode Anfal raided more than 250 ears in the Volga and Kama.
                  1436 year. At the mouth of Kotorosli forty ushkunikov-Vyatchans managed to capture the Yaroslavl prince Alexander Fedorovich, nicknamed Brukhaty. The prince at that time was at the head of the seven-thousandth army, but had the imprudence to retire with his young wife a little off, for which he paid. In Russia, this period was associated with the internecine war for the Moscow throne (internecine war in Moscow Russia (1425-1453).
                  1471 year. A successful campaign of the Vyatka’s earkeepers with the governor Kostya Yuryev in 1471 to the capital of the Golden Horde Saray. The campaign was undertaken at the request of the Moscow prince to distract the Horde during the war between Moscow and Novgorod.
                  “That same summer, at the same time, Idosh Vyatchane Kamoy to the bottom and go to the Volga in the south and took the hail of Tsarev Sarai to the Volze and many Tatars out of arms, their wives and children to the fullest, and many polonoums coming back. Tatarov of Kazanstan, having transferred them to Volze, the Vyatchans, who fought with them and lost their health in full, and many tou from both bastards ”(Typographical Chronicle. PSRL. T. 24, p. 191); “That same summer Vyatcheans walked the army on the Volga. Voivoda was with them Kostya Yuryev. Yes, they took the Barn and the countless princes and the Sarai princes ”(Ustyug Chronicle. PSRL. T. 37, p. 93).
        2. +1
          31 July 2015 15: 58
          Quote: fyvaprold
          and Gardariki with its capital in Veliky Novgorod (Halmgard), it is known before the mention of "Kievan Rus" and Kiev as the capital.

          Well, start with the fact that such a country as Gardariki did not exist. So called Russia in the Scandinavian sources (sagas, chronographs) of the Scandinavians in the 12 century. Sagas, contrary to popular Norman opinion, were written later than the Tale of Bygone Years.
          And the term Kievan Rus has purely scientific roots, as the period in the history of ancient Russia was designated. Kievan Rus also did not exist. It was Russia. And there were large cities, mainly commercial and administrative ones such as Novgorod, Kiev, Smolensk, Ladoga ... And if Vladimir was on the throne of Kiev, then his father Svyatoslav sought to settle on Pereslavtse on the Danube, according to him there is the middle of the Russian land.
          1. +1
            31 July 2015 16: 16
            Quote: Wend
            Well, start with the fact that such a country as Gardariki did not exist. So called Russia in the Scandinavian sources (sagas, chronographs) of the Scandinavians in the 12 century. Sagas, contrary to popular Norman opinion, were written later than the Tale of Bygone Years.
            And the term Kievan Rus has purely scientific roots, as the period in the history of ancient Russia was designated. Kievan Rus also did not exist.

            I agree, Gardariki, Kievan Rus, Vladimir Rus are the names of the same Old Russian State, in different sources and in different time periods. I talked about the "roots" of Vladimir, which "grow" from Veliky Novgorod, where, in fact, Rurik came from, from Novgorod to Kiev, and not vice versa, therefore, IMHO, all of his (Rurik's) descendants, one way or another Novgorod princes who reigned in different Russian cities. With respect.
            1. +2
              31 July 2015 17: 01
              Quote: fyvaprold
              Quote: Wend
              Well, start with the fact that such a country as Gardariki did not exist. So called Russia in the Scandinavian sources (sagas, chronographs) of the Scandinavians in the 12 century. Sagas, contrary to popular Norman opinion, were written later than the Tale of Bygone Years.
              And the term Kievan Rus has purely scientific roots, as the period in the history of ancient Russia was designated. Kievan Rus also did not exist.

              I agree, Gardariki, Kievan Rus, Vladimir Rus are the names of the same Old Russian State, in different sources and in different time periods. I talked about the "roots" of Vladimir, which "grow" from Veliky Novgorod, where, in fact, Rurik came from, from Novgorod to Kiev, and not vice versa, therefore, IMHO, all of his (Rurik's) descendants, one way or another Novgorod princes who reigned in different Russian cities. With respect.

              If we talk about the roots of Prince Vladimir, then what do we mean by roots?
              If the ancestors of Rurik, then Rurik was not born in Novgorod. And Prince Vladimir himself was born, according to the late sources of the 16th century, Nikonovskaya and Ustyuzhskaya annals, in the village of Budutin near Pskov, where the angry Olga sent Malusha, the mother of Vladimir. Malusha herself is a native of Lubech.
              The roots of Vladimir are from Kiev, where his father is Prince Svyatoslav, from Lyubech from there, Vladimir’s mother and from near Pskov the village of Budutin. So Vladimir is not from Novgorod. Novgorod is the place of reign of Prince Vladimir, and the roots, as I understand it, are to the place of birth.
              Also with respect.
            2. +1
              31 July 2015 17: 58
              Quote: fyvaprold
              I talked about the "roots" of Vladimir, which "grow" from Veliky Novgorod, from where, in fact, Rurik came from, from Novgorod to Kiev, and not vice versa, therefore, IMHO, all his (Rurik's) descendants, one way or another Novgorod princes, who reigned in different Russian cities.

              yes, the Old Russian state "hails" from Novgorod, but Rurik did not reign in Kiev
              in 879, Rurik died in Novgorod, transferring power and care over his young son Igor to his cousin Oleg (the same Prophetic Oleg)
              in 882 Oleg left Novgorod and captured Kiev, where Askold and Dir ruled before, and transferred the capital there
              1. +1
                1 August 2015 13: 42
                Quote: reservist
                Old Russian state "originally" from Novgorod

                This is what I meant, but about dates and persons, I really can be wrong, do not judge strictly. hi With respect.
  5. +3
    31 July 2015 14: 41
    The population is large in Ukraine. And a handful of people ... This Babylon on the Dnieper devours itself.
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  6. +3
    31 July 2015 14: 44
    two years ago, we directly warned: there will be no EU membership, there will be no visa-free regime, there will be no increase in wealth, there will be no Western investment, the euro-zombies did not listen and continued to ride


    They are being processed, they are being deceived, they are being manipulated and even blindly deaf and dumb sees this ....- but for some reason they believe ...

  7. -1
    31 July 2015 14: 44
    And I confess I'm not surprised. Vladimir the Bloody Sun during the baptism of Russia reduced the population by 3/4 (according to the most conservative estimates of Persian and Livonian merchants). Is that why Potrashenko honors him?
    1. +6
      31 July 2015 15: 22
      and where can I find the ratings of Persian and Livonian merchants?
  8. +3
    31 July 2015 14: 47
    Nah yes. Probably uses these:
  9. +2
    31 July 2015 14: 47
    You have neither history nor spirituality.

    They do not worry much about this. They do not need spirituality, but they write the story for themselves. So they live in a world invented by the ideologists of the new Ukraine (there is no desire to write even with a capital letter).
  10. 0
    31 July 2015 14: 53
    Nothing to add
  11. +4
    31 July 2015 14: 59
    Jews Waltzman and Co. drag Orthodox Ukraine to Catholic Europe. Complete nonsense. Explosion of the brain.
    1. 0
      31 July 2015 22: 06
      There is no Catholic Europe for a long time: instead of churches, clubs are at best, instead of virgins bearded men, instead of truth, lies and deceit ... hell on earth (a branch more precisely).
  12. +2
    31 July 2015 15: 10
    Great evening of boxing in the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine))
  13. +4
    31 July 2015 15: 15
    Here, a Swede asked me: what about the wisdom of the people, which they always talk about?
    I answered him: Ukrainians are not a people, this is a stupefied and stupid part of Russians, if they were a people, they would not have allowed themselves to be fooled to such an extent.
    1. 0
      31 July 2015 16: 06
      Quote: Begemot
      Here, a Swede asked me: what about the wisdom of the people, which they always talk about?
      I answered him: Ukrainians are not a people, this is a stupefied and stupid part of Russians, if they were a people, they would not have allowed themselves to be fooled to such an extent.

      During the census in Russia in 1922, Ukrainians called themselves Poles, Jews, Latvians and representatives of other peoples, except for Russians. A Ukrainian is the same as a Russian for all citizens of the Russian Federation. The town name.
      Read the article about Ukraine "What problem is America solving?" Zueva T.F. from 2.06.2014
      http://topwar.ru/52987-kakuyu-zadachu-reshaet-amerika.html
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  14. +15
    31 July 2015 15: 17
    And bequeathed "Forever with Russia." And you, mankurts, the ancestors' covenants sold for American cookies.
    Putin: Ukraine, you got the Prize sector. And the prizes today are from the General Sponsor - the European Union! Ukraine: - I take the prize! Putin: I suggest not opening the black box, and I give you a discount on gas. Ukraine: - I take the prize! Putin: - In addition to the discount on gas, we give you benefits for the supply of your goods to Russia and the CIS countries. Ukraine: - Prize! Putin (looks into the black box): - Instead of the contents of this black box, I offer you gas discounts, incentives for the supply of your goods to Russia and the CIS, and another 15 billion dollars, without any conditions. Ukraine: - Prize! Putin: - As you want ... (takes out cookies from a black box)
  15. -3
    31 July 2015 17: 27
    But can I also what they eat? it’s boring laughing laughing laughing
  16. 0
    31 July 2015 17: 50
    "You can lasciviously fall down to the master's boot and lick, lick, lick ..." - everything is correct about the uk & ditch, but not to the boot, but higher ... laughing
  17. +1
    31 July 2015 23: 01
    Quote: Jackking
    "You can lasciviously fall down to the master's boot and lick, lick, lick ..." - everything is correct about uk & ditch, but not to the boot, but higher ..

    and from the back! laughing am
  18. +1
    1 August 2015 01: 35
    By the way, dill on the coat of arms is not a trident, but a stylized falcon, and a falcon is the family coat of arms of the Rurikovich, which cannot be related to modern Ukraine.
  19. +1
    1 August 2015 11: 38
    Poroshenko muttered something about the fact that "Vladimir is the Ukrainian prince." Did Vladimir know about this? Is there any mention of Ukraine of that period? Is there at least one of the annals of “Vladimir, Prince of Ukraine”? There is no such thing in history, and never has been. Soon the medals will print
    1. 0
      1 August 2015 17: 51
      bdo28
      Poroshenko muttered something about the fact that "Vladimir is the Ukrainian prince." Did Vladimir know about this?


      Of course not. But if there were Jews nearby, he would have guessed right away!
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    1 August 2015 17: 38
    Yes, if there is such a "radiance", then it would be better to quickly cover Ukraine with darkness.
  21. 0
    1 August 2015 17: 38
    someone’s panes with history do incomprehensible
  22. 0
    1 August 2015 21: 18
    The "light of reason" once already shone over Europe from 33 to 46 AD. and burned more than 50 million people, but on the conscience of this "smoker" there are already several thousand innocent people! I have forgotten God's infidelity: "I will repay!" and as they say God endures for a long time, but it hurts. And for such an insult to Orthodoxy, I think he will not pardon (if he is not outstripped by offended citizens of Ukraine)!