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After Castro. How does Cuba remain an island of freedom

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Rumors about the death of Fidel Castro Rus’s flooded the world’s press for more than half a century — ever since the United States of America after failing several attempts to organize landings from Cuban émigrés and a draw (it was, however, given out for the victory of MUH over the USSR: we have our own rockets from Cuba taken out openly, and their concessions - the removal of missiles from Italy and Turkey, a guarantee of refusing invasions or supporting foreign invasions of Cuba - our propagandists did not advertise at their request) in the Caribbean crisis (its acute phase passed 1962.10.22 – 28) went to the organization AI attempts to assassinate the leader of the Cuban Revolution. Alas, sooner or later, another rumor will be justified: a person born 1926.08.13 can hardly hope to survive until the complete victory of medicine over death. No wonder he still 2008.02.24 gave his brother Raul Modesto the posts of head of state, government and armed forces, and 2011.04.19 - and the role of head of the Communist Party of Cuba. But Raul Modesto Angelewicz Castro Ruz, born 1931.06.03, is also not forever. Moreover, close to the brothers in age and their few still living associates in the organization of hostilities against the troops of Fulgencio Belisarovich Batista-i-Zaldivara (1901.01.16 – 1973.08.06) and the subsequent construction of socialism on the island. Sooner or later, this whole generation of heroic fighters will leave not only the political scene, but also our entire mortal and turbulent world.

Our own extensive experience indicates how much in the fate of a country depends on its leaders. Even our history most often divided into epochs by the names of heads of state. They are treated differently, depending on political views, but the fact of a cardinal change of domestic and foreign policy with every leader is obvious to everyone. And in many other countries, the division of history into epochs of government is a customary norm: until recently, even the official calendar, for example, in Japan began anew with each emperor. It is natural to expect that a new political era will begin in Cuba after the generation of the revolutionaries leaves.

The United States of America is not just waiting for a change in the course of the Island of Freedom, but is also actively preparing it: the official headquarters of the future coup d'état has opened in Havana (there is a sad joke throughout Latin America: "A coup is impossible in the US? Because there is no US embassy there") . Will there be forces in Cuba that are ready to participate in the next American crime?

During the American economic blockade, Cuba was in many ways pretty impoverished. For example, a significant part of the island’s fleet is still made up of cars imported from the MUH back in the times of Batista, before 1959.01.01. Industrial enterprises created with the help of the USSR decayed after its collapse: the Russian Federation in dashing 1990, she herself barely survived - she had no time for cooperation with her former overseas ally (and the political views of the new Russian leadership did not favor the support of MHA opponents). The former main source of freely convertible currency - public and gambling houses - is remembered by the more tender, the fewer people who remember what mockery Cubans were entertained by American visitors of these houses in the pauses between bedding and card games (and during these pleasures they also belonged to local staff As to the inventory, it is easy and cheaply replaced in process of wear). In short, the ground for a coup seems to be there. It would seem that on it a thirst for a return under the wing of the owner, after the prescription of years seemingly kind, can rapidly grow.

In a classic joke, a zoo visitor, after examining a sign with the official daily ration of an elephant, asked in amazement: “And he will eat it all?” The zoo servant replied: “Eat something, but who will give it to him?” I suppose the people of Cuba will not let it eat neither the MUH politicians nor their local allies.

Along with all the economic turmoil (and even with fatigue from political propaganda of uniform content), the Cubans not only feel, but also realize many of the undoubted achievements of their country on the path chosen by 1951.01.01. For example, Cuban medicine is generally recognized as the best in all of Latin America (it even brings a lot of money to the whole country: those from whom the financial situation and / or political position does not allow treatment in the MUH) go there from all over the continent. Education is also first-class - and this manifests itself in the many contacts of the islanders with the inhabitants of the mainland, and of the neighboring islands. The memory of illnesses and ignorance of the colonial era has not yet vanished.

A significant part of the economic niches vacated by the MUH has long been occupied by other partners. For example, Venezuela has been supplying oil to Cuba since the times when these supplies were officially counted as Soviet: it’s much easier not to drive tankers across the ocean, but to give Venezuelan oil to partners of the USSR in Latin America and the Soviet to partners of Venezuela in the Old World. Cuba pays Venezuela not with money, but with goods — first of all, sugar — and services, mainly medical. As new Latin American countries emerge from Cuba, under the pressure of MUH, other counterparties appear nearby - not as developed as MUH, but demanding more than MUH that Cuba can create. Finally, in recent years, China has become increasingly interested in the region. He needs, above all, sources of raw materials independent of MUH - and in Cuba, considerable deposits of acutely deficient non-ferrous metals (Cuba paid for Soviet goods and services with them, not only with sugar and tobacco). All these areas of cooperation can give Cuba much more than its return to the MUH, even according to the most optimistic estimates. And there are enough people in the country who can calculate this.

Yes, and China has learned no less convincingly than the MUH and the USSR to explain where the fish is deeper and the person is better. And after a series of coups and civil wars in Africa — just in countries where China has already entered into long-term contracts and is preparing to create new mining enterprises — Chinese politicians are undoubtedly looking for means of persuading those who can become agents of Chinese or anti-Chinese influence.

Finally, in the field of view of Cubans - numerous neighboring islands of the Caribbean. Their inhabitants live mostly poor, even by Cuban standards. It is unlikely that the example of the Dominican Republic, Jamaica or even the Bahamas (where 6 / 10 workers are busy serving tourists, which has turned into AIDS for every 30 citizen) can inspire a significant proportion of Cuban citizens to change the state structure.

True, the recent liberalization of the Cuban economy can give rise to considerable illusions. But, judging by our experience, enough time has passed since then, so that citizens can appreciate not only the advantages, but also the disadvantages of the acquired economic freedom. And they would hardly wish to expand it without additional insurance measures.

It is possible that a considerable part of my optimism is generated by the fact that I am familiar with Cuba not by personal impression, but only by publicly available publications. On the other hand, my long experience as an analyst indicates that not everything can be understood on the spot, either: “it can be seen from a distance”. Therefore, I hope that my assessment of the sanity of the people of Cuba is not too far from reality. And I believe: the departure of the generation that made the former colony the Island of Freedom will not turn into its new enslavement.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 30 July 2015 05: 48
    +5
    How Cuba to remain an island of freedom
    Freedom ... it has too many concepts and each puts its own meaning. So, it's hard here to advise something. If the "new" elite of Cuba can not sell itself and keep "head on shoulders", then it will be one Island of Freedom, and if not, then the Island will be the same, but completely different Freedom ...
    1. atalef
      atalef 30 July 2015 06: 27
      -14
      and the time of the American economic blockade, Cuba was in many ways pretty impoverished. For example, a significant part of the island’s car fleet is still made up of vehicles imported from the SGA even under Batista - until 1959.01.01. The industrial enterprises created with the help of the USSR went cold after its collapse: the Russian Federation itself in the dashing 1990s barely survived - it was not time for cooperation with its former overseas ally (and the political views of the new

      Dear Anatole, I have recently lost a little in my eyes (and to put it mildly) since it has turned from an expert into a herald of the course of GDP and Anti-Americanism (which has a right to be), but then you should not put yourself at least as an expert.
      I don’t understand if America didn’t trade with Cuba (and this was the economic blockade) - there were no cordons around Cuba to keep goods and capital out of Cuba (as well as from it)
      How can one call Cuba’s position in the economic blockade if the whole world was quietly trading with it (with the exception of the United States)?
      How ? What prevented Cuba from producing its cars? to develop your agriculture? Industry ?
      How much the USSR fell into it? Only loans forgiven 30 billion. How many CMEAs have piled into it? Venezuela? Bolivia?
      All pr..li (as in general, and any country of socialism)
      What the hell is blockade? This is if in your apartment building, one of 200 neighbors does not communicate with you and you start running around the yard screaming that you are in a blockade - they will look at you as a little abnormal
      The Cuban problems are in Cuba itself (and not in the USA), in its rule. in universal equalization, and all other charms of socialism brought to the absolute
      Cubans do not need to explain what is better and what is worse.
      In * the best * they have been living for 60 years and nothing has changed, unlike their many relatives who fled to the * worst * world - and live much better (for some reason)
      Raul did exactly the right thing, after Venezuela finally soured (and Russia doesn’t get any money) and there was no one to feed the aircraft carrier of the revolution (I wonder why socialism is so scarce) - he understood a better controlled transition to the * worst * to the world than some day. fate befalls Ceausescu.
      Well, what about Anatole?
      Finally, in the field of view of Cubans - numerous neighboring islands of the Caribbean. Their inhabitants live mostly poor, even by Cuban standards. It is unlikely that the example of the Dominican Republic, Jamaica or even the Bahamas (where 6 / 10 workers are busy serving tourists, which has turned into AIDS for every 30 citizen) can inspire a significant proportion of Cuban citizens to change the state structure.

      Funny, why give examples of the worst? If enough examples of the best?
      It just doesn't fit the Anatole general line
      in L. America, countries with a democratic change of leadership and a capitalist system live better than all others than with tyrants or socialism.
      That's all.
      1. perm23
        perm23 30 July 2015 09: 55
        +3
        You are completely wrong. Tyrants are not under socialism, but under capitalism and not one tyrant, but a bunch of tyrants who think that they know how to live with everything else. And socialism is a bone in their throat for them, so they all interfere, they live and develop normally. We would not be hindered with the arms race With propaganda, etc., and we would live better than anyone.
      2. Selevc
        Selevc 30 July 2015 10: 23
        0
        Quote: atalef
        in general I wonder why, as socialism is so scarcity

        The deficit under socialism is explained by the fact that material wealth reaches everyone - to a less or less equal degree ... Of course, in any country there is a layer by which no matter how little, everything is bad and everything is bad ... But in capitalism, there are strata that take the lion's share of the blessings for themselves and those that get nothing — these people simply do not exist for the country. That is, they are really alive, but the attitude of the state towards them is even worse than towards the dead !!! Yes, Cubans live poorly - but no one lives in a garbage dump and does not sleep in boxes on the street ...
        The real achievement of the Cuban revolution is that the descendants of slaves and servants were really respected by the descendants of the planters and colonialists ... If only the Cubans would not bend and lose it ...
        1. atalef
          atalef 30 July 2015 10: 33
          -1
          Quote: Selevc
          The deficit under socialism is explained by the fact that material wealth reaches everyone - to a less or less equal degree ...

          deficit cannot reach by definition
          Deficit says that nothing comes

          Quote: Selevc
          But in capitalism, there are strata taking the lion's share of the blessings and those who get nothing - these people simply do not exist for the country

          It is difficult to agree with this having been to Europe or Scandinavia
          Quote: Selevc
          That is, they are actually alive, but the attitude of the state towards them is even worse than towards the dead

          pearl standings
          Quote: Selevc
          Yes, Cubans live poorly - but no one lives in a garbage dump and does not sleep in boxes on the street

          you know, in April of the following year I’m going to Cuba - I’ll see for myself
          Quote: Selevc
          The real achievement of the Cuban revolution is that the descendants of slaves and servants were really respected by the descendants of planters and colonialists

          Explain this to a descendant of slaves - Obama, Condoleezzine Colin Powell and so on in detail
          1. Selevc
            Selevc 30 July 2015 10: 47
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            Quote: atalef
            deficit cannot reach by definition
            Deficit says that nothing comes
            The deficit can be explained by a simple example ... Let's say you have an expensive luxury car ... And now imagine the situation that everyone from a youngster to an old man can afford to buy such a car - tomorrow such a product will become a deficit ... Because demand will jump many times ... The deficit just indicates a great demand of the population and suggests that Cuba lives within its means and does not sit on foreign loans ...
            Quote: atalef
            It is difficult to agree with this having been to Europe or Scandinavia

            But in the modern model of European capitalism there are elements of socialism, and in the Scandinavian model even more so ...
            Quote: atalef
            Explain this to a descendant of slaves - Obama, Condoleezzine Colin Powell and so on in detail
            Why so from extreme to extreme - in capitalism is full of people who have risen from the bottom to the top of the public pyramid ... But the exception only confirms the rule !!! You better ask the Indians on reservations how they live and the homeless on the streets of New York how generously they were endowed with material wealth by the US state !!!
            1. atalef
              atalef 30 July 2015 15: 04
              -1
              Quote: Selevc
              Let's say you have an expensive luxury car ... And now imagine a situation that everyone around from a youngster to an old man can afford to buy such a car - tomorrow such a product will become a deficit ... Because demand will jump many times ... The deficit is just speaks of the great demand of the population and says that Cuba lives within its means and does not sit on foreign loans ...

              Meanwhile, in an alternate universe ....
              Quote: Selevc
              But in the modern model of European capitalism there are elements of socialism, and in the Scandinavian model even more so ..

              They have only elements. where are they to Cuba. Korea or the USSR - after all, there was and is socialism
              Quote: Selevc
              Why so from extreme to extreme - in capitalism is full of people who have risen from the bottom to the top of the public pyramid ... But the exception only confirms the rule !!

              Which one?
              Quote: Selevc
              You better ask the Indians on reservations how they live and the homeless on the streets of New York how generously they were endowed with material wealth by the US state !!!

              I also saw homeless people in Liechtenstein and Monaco, but it’s better not to stutter about the Indians, if you weren’t and don’t know.
              1. Bayonet
                Bayonet 31 July 2015 06: 57
                0
                Quote: atalef
                but it’s better not to stutter about the Indians, if you weren’t and don’t know.

                You read some sayings (not only about Indians) and you begin to believe in fellow believers! Something from the first half of the last century! smile
          2. Revolver
            Revolver 30 July 2015 17: 49
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            Quote: atalef
            deficit cannot reach by definition
            Deficit says that nothing comes

            And in general, as I said, I don’t remember who, but clearly in purpose:
            "Capitalism unevenly distributes wealth, and socialism evenly distributes poverty."

            Quote: atalef
            Explain this to the descendant of slaves - Obama

            And here you are wrong. Nobody brought Obama's ancestors to America in the hold of a slave ship. His dad flew in from Kenya himself, with all the comforts of a kind, even like first class, since finance allowed him to study in America. And mother was finally white.
            1. atalef
              atalef 31 July 2015 07: 21
              +2
              Quote: Nagan
              "Capitalism distributes wealth unevenly, and socialism distributes poverty evenly"

              Well, the slogan of social revolution - That would not be rich -
              This they achieved 100%
              Quote: Nagan
              And here you are wrong. Nobody brought Obama's ancestors to America in the hold of a slave ship. His daddy flew from Kenya himself, with all the amenities, sort of like even first class, since finance allowed me to study in America

              Well, an example with Obama was, so to speak, for the simplicity of the picture.
              It’s clear that the position of the blacks (well, you won’t erase the words from the song - the Cro-Magnon is the Cromonean, the Mongoloid is the Mongoloid, the European is the European, the pale spirochete is the causative agent of syphilis, and not the bacterium that causes complications in the act of love love (the same thing can be called from political correctness))
              so now in America there is already a question of who has some hostages, Europeans have blacks, or vice versa. Therefore, to refer to their supposedly difficult life is not to know the realities. They have much more rights and opportunities (in laws) than * whites *, but whether they realize it or not is another question.
              After all, a person can be given a fishing rod, tackle and bait for fishing and self-sufficiency, but if he stupidly eats this bait by preparing it on a fire from a broken fishing rod - nothing will help
              That many blacks belay laughing , and they are engaged in the fact that they are fishing for fishing rods given to them .. there's nothing to be done about it, but to say that they are oppressed is completely untrue.
              1. Revolver
                Revolver 31 July 2015 08: 56
                0
                Everything is correct. Here is just one comment. The word "nigger" [nigger] is so politically incorrect that anyone who does not belong to him, for the use of it, no matter what the context, liberasty will mix and will eat shit. And they themselves in their ghettos to each other in a loud voice yell: "Yo, nigger!", Which means like "hello, bro."
                Oh yes, the Caucasoid is no longer Caucasoid, but according to the canons of the most modern political correctness, the person of Caucasian Ethnicity [Caucasian].
        2. atalef
          atalef 30 July 2015 10: 33
          +2
          Quote: Selevc
          The deficit under socialism is explained by the fact that material wealth reaches everyone - to a less or less equal degree ...

          deficit cannot reach by definition
          Deficit says that nothing comes

          Quote: Selevc
          But in capitalism, there are strata taking the lion's share of the blessings and those who get nothing - these people simply do not exist for the country

          It is difficult to agree with this having been to Europe or Scandinavia
          Quote: Selevc
          That is, they are actually alive, but the attitude of the state towards them is even worse than towards the dead

          pearl standings
          Quote: Selevc
          Yes, Cubans live poorly - but no one lives in a garbage dump and does not sleep in boxes on the street

          you know, in April of the following year I’m going to Cuba - I’ll see for myself
          Quote: Selevc
          The real achievement of the Cuban revolution is that the descendants of slaves and servants were really respected by the descendants of planters and colonialists

          Explain this to a descendant of slaves - Obama, Condoleezzine Colin Powell and so on in detail
      3. V.ic
        V.ic 30 July 2015 10: 28
        0
        Quote: atalef
        What the hell is blockade?

        The epidemic of tobacco and sugarcane plantation diseases as well as the number of pigs in Cuba Castro organized or still mattress agents?
  2. sv68
    sv68 30 July 2015 06: 28
    +2
    while Fidel Castro is alive, the Cubans will not be allowed to become an American colony again. but, he is a mere mortal man, and so far there is no substitute for him — an adequate replacement — so far there is no freedom on the island.
    1. atalef
      atalef 30 July 2015 07: 20
      -9
      Quote: sv68
      while Fidel Castro is alive, the Cubans will not be allowed to become an American colony again. but, he is a mere mortal man, and so far there is no substitute for him — an adequate replacement — so far there is no freedom on the island.

      Why is there no adequate replacement? That for 60 years no one has been found on the whole island, equal to Fidel? For 60 years?
      Is he the only one?
      It’s just that this is the system of socialism (and in fact life-long rule) in this situation * the only ruler and lampoon * - ensures that against its background all the others are either zeros or gray mice
      Well, the gray mice (who are smarter (=) quickly find their niches and quietly cook up their affairs (what should I explain as if this was not the case in the USSR) and everything is beautiful
      They do what they want and it is no longer known who is in charge and who is hostage
      They say the old lion, even the monkeys fuck
      so this is the case, he grew monkeys around himself - he got what he relies on old age
      . Slogans on an empty stomach, socialism or death?
      What a cube chooses is understandable. And to all.
      And the departure to the states will be so swift that they won’t even have time to come to their senses
      Cuba lived in Soviet porridge for 60 years, enough time to understand that in the next 60 (with the old course) - the same thing will not change.
  3. candidate
    candidate 30 July 2015 06: 29
    +3
    Do not believe the promises, worthless to them
    The main thing for them to break through to power
    While the people believe - the country is strong!
    In unity for the good of fighting
  4. EvgNik
    EvgNik 30 July 2015 06: 38
    +1
    "And I believe: the departure of the generation that made the former colony the Island of Freedom will not result in its new enslavement."
    It remains only to believe that common sense and the example of countries that have followed the path of Western "democracy" are to choose the right vector of development.
  5. valokordin
    valokordin 30 July 2015 07: 29
    +3
    The danger that Cuba will once again become a US colony is also very serious. Could we think that the leadership of the CPSU, in the person of its highest officials, will betray its party and the ideals of communism in favor of US capital. Could we think that the KGB, brought up in the spirit of Lenin and Dzerzhinsky, would allow this betrayal? And here is the richest imperialism. Who will stop them ?. In Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Yugoslavia. Nobody stopped them in Ukraine, neither China nor Russia. Even now, Russia cannot put the Nazis in their place in Ukraine, allowing them to build up Nazi military muscles, which will lead to dire consequences. We just need to help the militia as much as possible and not make Minsk. Now there is nothing to hope for, not to lose the remnants of confidence among the residents of Donbass, which even humanitarian convoys can not save.
    1. atalef
      atalef 30 July 2015 07: 38
      -6
      Quote: valokordin
      The danger that Cuba will once again become a US colony is also very serious.

      And which way can you offer? Only that someone would stand in front of his eyes - as an example
      Quote: valokordin
      Could we think that the leadership of the CPSU, in the person of its highest officials, will betray its party and the ideals of communism in favor of US capital.

      I wonder who the USSR collapsed? Pioneers or what?
      Quote: valokordin
      Could we think that the KGB, brought up in the spirit of Lenin and Dzerzhinsky, would allow this betrayal?

      Ask de Putin how this happened? It’s somehow in the trenches (and not only it, just an example on the surface) - it was not noticed.
      Quote: valokordin
      And here is the richest imperialism. Who will stop them?

      An example, rather than imperialism. An example of the Cubans before the eyes. but there is no worthy alternative. Of course there are countries of Scandinavia, Luxembourg. Switzerland - but this is the same capitalism, just at a higher stage than the United States
      Quote: valokordin
      ? In Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Yugoslavia. No one stopped them in Ukraine, neither China nor Russia

      It is very simple, what can China or Russia say to the Cubans? Do as we will and we will live like us - I think the answer is obvious --- thanks, no need
      Quote: valokordin
      . Russia now cannot put the Nazis in their place in Ukraine,

      And you could, plant for lattice, but imposed VETO
      Quote: valokordin
      Minsk. Now there is nothing to hope for, not to lose the remnants of confidence among the residents of Donbass, which even humanitarian convoys can not save.

      Talk to Domocles or Lord Sikh, I think as eyewitnesses they have something to say on the subject.
  6. valokordin
    valokordin 30 July 2015 07: 54
    0
    Quote: atalef
    Quote: valokordin
    The danger that Cuba will once again become a US colony is also very serious.

    And which way can you offer? Only that someone would stand in front of his eyes - as a prim
    I suggested consulting with Tel Aviv and the Knesset. There are many smart people.
    And you could, plant for lattice, but imposed VETO
    Where did you put it? in trousers or where else?

    Talk to Domocles or Lord Sikh, I think as eyewitnesses they have something to say on the subject.

    It is better to talk with Anatoly Vassrmanov.
  7. vladimirw
    vladimirw 30 July 2015 12: 41
    +1
    see live, only history says otherwise. Maybe Raul will adhere to the policy of his brother, and then who will come. Look at Venezuela.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 31 July 2015 07: 02
      +1
      Quote: vladimirw
      Maybe Raul will adhere to the policy of his brother

      Raul is already 84!
      1. atalef
        atalef 31 July 2015 07: 08
        +1
        Quote: Bayonet
        Quote: vladimirw
        Maybe Raul will adhere to the policy of his brother

        Raul is already 84!

        Good morning, Alexander.
        Raul 84, they probably intended a methuselah for themselves, but 84 belay
        I thought he was younger.
        Although correct, Castro 89.
        At this age, as a rule, they support each other, well, there they play lotto, play cards, and then continue to rule the state.
        Is there a change? No, at least not heard.
        In general, Cuba is slowly drifting toward Florida.
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet 31 July 2015 10: 17
          0
          Quote: atalef
          Well, there to play lotto, in the cards,

          Hello Alexander! You can in the lotto, but also think about the eternal, sores again - old age is not joy ... what are the state affairs?
  8. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 30 July 2015 15: 52
    0
    Cuba is my love
    Island of Dawn Crimson
    A song flies over a planet ringing
    Cuba is my love1
    1. 16112014nk
      16112014nk 31 July 2015 15: 06
      0
      Why are they messed up? Don't like the song or Cuba? Indicate, please, the reason! I also like the Cubans themselves as a people! Then put another third minus. fool
      1. Pissarro
        Pissarro 1 August 2015 15: 40
        0
        there are cubin phobes visible laughing
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  9. puppet
    puppet 30 July 2015 17: 27
    0
    nice to read a smart person, thanks
  10. dvg79
    dvg79 30 July 2015 18: 27
    0
    It is a pity in the USSR after Stalin, there was no man of the Castro level and with his longevity. For many years of his life he was spiteful for the enemies and to our delight.
    1. atalef
      atalef 30 July 2015 20: 36
      +2
      Quote: dvg79
      It is a pity in the USSR after Stalin, there was no person of the Castro level and with its longevity

      Yeah, but every day I would weave new bast shoes, there wouldn’t be any money
      Quote: dvg79
      .Long years of life he spite enemies and to our joy

      Yes, more than him, for the * propaganda * of socialism only the Kimov family, and Maduro, did it.
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 30 July 2015 21: 40
        0
        Sit on a socialist carnation?
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 30 July 2015 22: 13
      0
      Quote: dvg79
      there was no person of Castro level and with his longevity

      Why did you dear comrade Leonid Ilyich feel bad? Although I personally would prefer that Leonid Ilyich cast his hooves even earlier, and Yuri Vladimirovich, on the contrary, would live longer. But not fate ...
      1. Pissarro
        Pissarro 1 August 2015 15: 45
        0
        Why did you dear comrade Leonid Ilyich feel bad? Although I personally would prefer that Leonid Ilyich cast his hooves even earlier, and Yuri Vladimirovich, on the contrary, would live longer. But not fate ...


        We had an ideological crisis precisely from the reign of dear Leonid Ilyich, the idea died under him. And Yuri Vladimirovich Gorbatoy from the village was dragged, his merit
    3. Bayonet
      Bayonet 31 July 2015 07: 05
      -1
      Quote: dvg79
      .Long years of life to him spite enemies and to our joy.

      And what joy is there to us from an 89-year-old man living on the other side of the earth? request
  11. NordUral
    NordUral 30 July 2015 21: 40
    0
    Alas! Now nothing. Fidel (many years to him!) Will leave and that's all ...