The mystery of the tapestry from Bayeux and the Battle of Hastings (Part of 2)

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Encrypted monument ...

Want to see the tapestry with your own eyes, well, go to the ancient Norman town of Bayeux, which is conveniently located in the valley of the River Orn.



From afar, the medieval cathedral catches the eye, the vague outlines of towers and spiers, which gradually, as they approach the city, become more clear. The road circles around the old center, like a protective fence, within which lies a web of shady streets and ancient stone buildings; here and there, the facades of wooden houses in the style of the late Middle Ages glitter in the sun, as if they had penetrated here, into our present, from the past. In the center of the city stands a huge cathedral, a Gothic masterpiece in the Romanesque style. Its western towers, erected in the time of William the Conqueror, still hover above the small houses at their feet. However, not this cathedral, no doubt outstanding, but still quite ordinary by French standards, attracts half a million tourists to Bayeux every year. They come to see one of the greatest and mysterious works of art.


Battle of Hastings. Modern reconstruction.


Signs leading to this masterpiece can be found in the city center everywhere. They have only one word, in English or French “Tapisserie. Tapestry". Here, in Bayeux, the other words are superfluous.

The road, marked with “Gobelin” signs, leads you along narrow streets, under the shadow of ancient houses and the cathedral. She passes by the shops selling all the things that can be decorated with the image of a tapestry from Bayeux, from mugs and waffle towels to rugs for mice and T-shirts. Under the pale green tent of the Le Buillaume restaurant you can take a break and remember the feats of arms of the Duke William of Normandy, or his wife, Queen Matilda, if you stay at the La Reine Mathilde hotel.

Then the path leads you past these institutions along De Mesmono Street to the impressive 17th century building, which was turned into a museum at the beginning of the 1980s.

You open the museum door. Inside is silence and twilight. You buy a ticket. Then go along the wide staircase and, after passing a few doors, step by step, approach the holy of holies of the medieval riddle. Then there will be a long, narrow corridor with no windows and with an unexpected bend in the middle. It is here that there is a tapestry from Bayea, carefully covered under thick glass. He stretches before you like a giant film, a beautiful, colorful frieze from the depths of the Middle Ages. Although this work of art is only half a meter wide, it is incredibly long, especially for such an old work. It seems that if you take the tapestry in hand, it will crumble. Tapestry stretches along the wall, then bends and stretches further. Its entire length is 70 m, but it would be even longer by about 60 m if the final part had not been lost in the deep past. And even in this form, the remaining tapestry can cover the third part of the column of Nelson.

Yes, it is here, in the heart of Normandy, that the dramatic story Norman invasion of England in 1066. Despite its age and fragility, the tapestry is perfectly preserved. Most of what we see today on the tapestry is the original, and those scenes that have been restored have been reproduced with great care and do not change their original interpretation.

The tapestry is made on a simple linen cloth with woolen threads of red, yellow, gray, two shades of green and three shades of blue. Despite its antiquity, it remains so bright and captivating, as if it was finished yesterday, and not a thousand years ago. An extraordinary story unfolds as you walk along a dimly lit gallery. The flaxen scene is quickly filled with figures that are busy with their affairs, who are in castles and halls, on ships and on horses, or are looking intently somewhere. This is a medieval tale of intrigue, danger and war. It begins with mysterious events that took place a year or two before 1066, a critical background for all subsequent actions, culminating in the battle of 1066, the most crucial year in English history.

Interestingly, the greatest drama in history and daily affairs are recorded by the artist without ambition, and as if in a random order. Some people here feast, eat meat on skewers, others drink wine poured into cups of elephant tusks, others hunt, sow or go to church; men cross the river ford, raising their tunics high, load provisions on ships, and then fight. Every time you look at a tapestry, the thought involuntarily arises that new details appear on it that you have not seen before. This work is understandable because it is obvious, but at the same time it is mysterious and tempting. Commentary on Latin, running along the upper boundary of the main frieze, sheds light on the content of the canvas, but enrages because of its brevity and ambiguity. Above and below the main frieze are two narrow borders filled with strange pictures: real and mythical creatures, ancient legends, astrological symbols, scenes from ordinary life, and even individual erotic episodes.

Despite the signature stating that it is a tapestry, in fact it is not a tapestry at all. To be precise, this is embroidery, since the images are embroidered on fabric and not made in the manner characteristic for tapestry making, but this piece is perhaps the most famous “tapestry” in the world, so it would be too pedantic to insist on changing it titles. We do not have wall decorations of this time to compare them with this tapestry from Bayeux, there are no documents describing when, why and by whom it was made. All that we can learn about the tapestry from Bayeux, it is possible to learn only from the historical investigation. For example, the way he appeared in Bayeux, if the first mention of him is dated 1476.

Even after you have seen the tapestry from Bayeux many times, its details, length and complexity of manufacturing still continue to amaze. So, it depicts 626 human figures, 202 horses, 55 dogs, 505 other animals, 49 trees, 37 buildings, 41 ship. The tapestry tells about men: from 626 human figures, only 3 on the main frieze and 2 on the curbs belong to women. In a few intriguing episodes, you can even recognize unnamed characters, but to identify people you usually have to resort to signatures in Latin.

The comment contains only the names of the 15 characters; Obviously, these are the main characters of the tapestry. These heroes mainly belong to the upper echelon of medieval society, and are mentioned in any study of 1066 events. These are Edward the Confessor, the old king of England, and the two main contenders for his throne, Count Harold of Wessex and Duke William of Normandy. However, in addition, 4 unknown figures are mentioned: the dwarf Turoold, the acting groom, the English Lady Elfiva, who has an affair with a priest, and two younger Norman knights - Wadard and Vital. And here we have the first mystery of the tapestry: why the dwarf, an elegant, but scandalous lady and two junior knight-Normans, share fame with kings, dukes, counts, bishops, thus forcing us to find out who they are and what role they played in 1066 events For what they were immortalized on the tapestry? Another important character on the tapestry is Bishop Odo of Bayeux, depicted on it with the baton of a commander in his hands, more like a blunt club. Odo was a greedy and ambitious half-brother Wilhelm and his main supporter in this conquest after which he became one of the richest men in England.

According to the popular concept, the tapestry from Bayeux is a work about the triumph of William the Conqueror. It undoubtedly has great historical significance, but it cannot be taken absolutely straightforwardly. Read any known work, and in it you will find information that the tapestry depicts the story of the childless English king Edward the Confessor, who at the end of his life sent his confidant, Earl Harold on a mission to Normandy. The mission of the count is to inform Cousin Edward, Duke Wilhelm of Normandy, that the old king chose him as his heir. After an accident in another part of France, from which the Duke Wilhelm kindly saved him, Earl Harold duly took him a sworn oath and solemnly vowed to be a vassal of Wilhelm. However, returning to England after the death of Edward in January 1066. Harold himself seized his throne. That is, the Duke William was deceived by a greedy Englishman, and therefore gathered a huge army of Normans and invaded England to lay down his legal rights to the throne. In the end, he, of course, defeats the treacherous Englishman in the battle of Hastings (but not without the support of his stepbrother Odo), and Harold gets an arrow in the eye for his treachery. This story is told "strictly from the point of view of the Normans." This look at the tapestry from Bayeux is repeated again and again in guidebooks, brochures and popular historical books.

But the truth seems to be different from this version, and it is much more interesting. It slowly manifests itself last 50 years in journal articles and, of course, that the general public is completely unfamiliar. Much remains a mystery, and not all experts agree with this version, but there is good reason to believe that the tapestry from Bayeux was not embroidered at all in Normandy, but in conquered England. It is possible that during 10 years after 1066, and that the ingenious artist who created the design for the English sewing team (Queen Matilda had nothing to do with it!), Created a dangerously multilayered masterpiece. There simply existed a romantic tradition, first recorded in the 18th century, according to which the tapestry from Bayeux owes its appearance to the proud and delightful wife of William, Queen Matilde. She and her helpers, as legend has it, embroidered a tapestry to celebrate William’s success in conquering England. By the way, the tablet with the words "Tapestry of Queen Matilda" is still hanging on the wall of the museum in Bayeux, perhaps because a large number of French tourists continue to come to the gate waiting to see the work of Queen Matilda.

In fact, the design of the canvas was just wonderfully thought out and full of secret meaning. Only at first glance the tapestry supports the Norman version. It seems that the idea of ​​the artist was in fact subversive. Working under the leadership of the Normans, he invented embroidery, which, at first glance, should not have disappointed the conquerors. However, with a deeper level of acquaintance with the canvas you begin to understand that he tells a completely different story. At a time when it was impossible to convey the English point of view in writing, the artist did this with the help of drawings. That which could not be said can be shown, covertly and artfully; and the work of art that the Normans accepted and admired was in fact a Trojan horse, in which the English point of view remained. Thus, the story that we are gradually opening today is embroidered in these paintings. According to her, the claims of the Normans to the throne are rejected. And the tapestry from Bayeux looks more like a lost version of the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle.

Without a doubt, the tapestry from Bayeux depicts the victory of the Normans, and their victory itself cannot be denied. We see how a talented artist proceeds to a skillful presentation of the English version of the events that led to the Norman conquest, but even more he tries to assess the conquest from the point of view of the deep religiosity and beliefs of the time. According to the doctrine that prevails in Christianity of the 11th century, all great events took place according to the will of the Lord. Therefore, in search of an explanation of the reasons for the conquest of England by the Normans, the artist turned to the Old Testament and came to the conclusion that the conquest of England was God's punishment for sins. It was just so helpless, conquered people who tried to explain what happened to them; the Normans, for their part, also proclaimed that God was for them. Here everything is intertwined and the meaning of these connections has never been fully and, most likely, and will not be revealed. However, the artist most likely supported Count Eustace II of Bologna, who, although he joined Wilhelm’s invasion of 1066, intended to fight the Normans for power in northern France. Probably, he claimed the English throne. Count Eustace of Bologna is usually mistakenly called the “Norman”, although in fact he was not at all their ardent supporter, and the Duke William did not trust him. There are only three characters on the tapestry: Bishop Odo of Bayeux, Duke William and Count Eustace of Bolon are named among the Normans who participated in the battle of Hastings. At the same time, it is worth looking at the image on the canvas a little more closely, as it becomes clear that of these three, the main role the tapestry assigns to Count Eustace, and not William the Conqueror! That is, a tapestry is nothing but an encrypted monument of those distant events, and if this is true, then its purpose is to tell the truth to the descendants of the defeated British! However, finding it on this tapestry is not so easy.

Tale of consequences

Today, the walls of buildings XI. they look bare and empty, nothing is left of the glitter and luxury of former times. But if we go back in time and enter the limits of the great churches or worldly palaces of that time, we immediately see colorful wall draperies, frescoes and other decorations.

Thus, in the great Anglo-Saxon poem “Beowulf” the hall of a secular building is described as brilliantly decorated with drapes “embroidered with gold”, and “many who were honored to see them cannot restrain a cry of delight.” It is known that the widow of the Anglo-Saxon warrior Bertnoth, who died in 991 in the battle of Maldon, created an interesting embroidery dedicated to the death of her husband, and transferred her work to Eli Church. But she did not survive; we can only guess about its size, design and technique. But the tapestry from Bayeux has been preserved, and even for the XI century. he was an exception, because a very small number of people had enough space to put up a work of that length, and the means to order it. A huge number of jewelry from the fabric, both large and small, has disappeared. So even the fact that at least this one tapestry is preserved, and that is a rare success for historians. It is doubly successful that the only surviving creation of this kind captured the most important event in English history.

In the modern world, it is more honorable to be a conquered people than a nation of victorious warriors. After all, it was said: "Blessed are the meek ...". And although from the eleventh century. England more often acted as a conqueror, the defeat she suffered from the Normans can be considered one of the toughest and most crushing in all of human history. However, the Normans and the French, who landed in England, made up only a small part of the total population of the country (1,5 - 2 million). But they took all the key positions in power. For several years, almost the entire Anglo-Saxon aristocracy was replaced by the French-speaking elite. One by one, the chief bishops and abbots were replaced by the Normans or their appointees. Wealth as trophies of war flowed into the treasury of the conquerors. By 1086, when King William made an inventory of the land in the Book of the Last Judgment, a quarter of England belonged to 11 to his closest supporters. Of the 200 aristocrats who owned the other quarter of the country, only 4 were English. A huge mass of representatives of the Anglo-Saxon ruling class was destroyed in the battle of 1066, turned into second-rate people on their own land or became exiles. The Normans became a new elite, but an important minority was their allies from other parts of France and Flanders. To strengthen their power, the Normans began to build locks, first of wood, then of stone, throughout the country. Before 1066, there were few castles in England. Now fortified castles - square fortresses on man-made hills - have become a characteristic feature of the English counties. With the death of King Harold at the Battle of Hastings, the only person left who could organize opposition in the country. Therefore, the resistance was sporadic and absolutely unsuccessful. And if the fortress took away the hope of a successful uprising, the soul of the people also shrank in the shadow of magnificent churches and cathedrals erected by invaders in the continental style. The elegant, soaring Winchester cathedrals, Eli, are all an outstanding legacy of the Norman conquest, like the Tower - the famous White Tower in London - a reminder of the military force that created it.

In cruel times, all were cruel, but it is impossible not to note the particular cruelty in the character of William the Conqueror. It was she who made the conquest of England possible. He was a man with an iron will. If he believed that he was right, he immediately used all his strength and did not pay attention to innocent victims. The invasion of 1066 was so vividly captured on the tapestry from Bayeux, this is the story of a man's purposeful will to win. Less well known, but no less revealing, is how William suppressed a rebellion in the north of England in the 1069 and 1070 years, where he punished all sectors of society with extreme cruelty. Dividing the army into small detachments, he ordered the land to be destroyed. The warriors burned the harvest, staged a slaughter among the peasants, destroyed the tools of labor.


Bas-relief depicting William the Conqueror in Dives-sur-mer, Chateau Guillaume le Concourt, Falez.


It was a policy of deliberate terror: for a whole generation the earth did not give birth, famine began - but the rebellion was suppressed. Thousands died. Samson Durham writes that corpses rot in the streets and in houses, and the survivors were forced to eat horses, dogs, cats, or sell themselves into slavery. All villages from Durham to York were ravaged and abandoned. 50 years later, Oderik Vitalis, already mentioned by us, a monk of Anglo-Norman descent, bitterly recalled "helpless children, young people who had just begun their way, decrepit old people" who died as a result of the punitive operation of Wilhelm in the north. The reputation of a cruel person helped William to impose his rule on England. Few dared to speak out against him, even fewer decided to rebel.

The direct human sacrifices of the Norman conquest are great, but the long-term influence of this invasion is also dramatic, and is still felt. The events of 1066 deeply influenced the further development of British and European history. The country left the ranks of the states of the Scandinavian world and turned to face France. For the following centuries, England was ruled by a French-speaking elite, whose interests, and at least ambitions, lay on both sides of the English Channel. Over time, England was increasingly drawn into the regional and dynastic intrigues of France. When, with the death of King Stephen in 1154, the Norman dynasty was interrupted, the French dynasty of Heinrich Plantagenet, the great-grandson of William the Conqueror, took her place. The conflict, known as the Hundred Years War, ended in 1453, is the most prominent example of the long and tangled Anglo-French relations, the cause of which was precisely the victory of William of Normans in the battle of Hastings in 1066.

The mystery of the tapestry from Bayeux and the Battle of Hastings (Part of 2)

A fairly realistic image of a warrior from the beginning of the 11th century, although the sword, judging by its cross, must be much older. Psalm of Tiberius. England (Winchester) after 1064 (British Library)


The Anglo-Saxon control system was quite complicated for its time, so the Normans in England kept it. For example, they left Anglo-Saxon counties as an administrative unit. And they persist today in the same borders. Schoolchildren are told that the Normans brought “feudalism” to England, but historians are no longer sure of this, as well as the fact that the term “feudalism” is appropriate for what happened in England. Longer-term cultural and linguistic changes are also easier to define. In an instant, Old English became the language of impotent plebeians, it was almost stopped to write, and the development of English literature, previously represented by Anglo-Saxon poems Beowulf, and The Battle of Maldon, actually just stopped. And if the French laughed at Anglo-Saxon poetry, which seemed clumsy and crude to them, they were able to bring their significant contribution to the new culture. French ethnic poetry, fascinating stories and instructive tales, written for the entertainment of French-speaking lords and ladies in their new English castles, were an important part of French literature itself. Some believe that the first significant work in French - “The Song of Roland” - was written not anywhere, but in conquered England. Be that as it may, the earliest version of The Song of Roland is a copy recorded in England in the twelfth century.

For centuries, two languages ​​existed in parallel: French for the ruling class, English for the middle and lower. As Walter Scott remarked in Ivanhoe, the echo of this social and language barrier is still heard in modern English. Many animals continue to be called the old English terms (sheep - sheep, cow - cow, oh - bull, deer - deer), while dishes made from them, prepared for nobles, received French names (mattock - lamb, beef - beef, beacon - bacon, venison - venison, real - veal). Only in 1362 did French cease to be the language of the English Parliament. When Henry IV entered the throne in 1399, he became the first English king since Harold Goodwinson, whose first language was English, not French. Even in the XVII century. English lawyers used the degenerated form of French in the walls of the court. The Normans never intended to eradicate English. It is said that William the Conqueror tried to learn English, but found it too difficult for himself and gave up. But thanks to the overwhelming majority of English-speaking residents and the constant wars with France, the French gradually disappeared from the colloquial speech, and by the XV century. Modern English has become the main language of the country. By this time, the French language of the Normans and Plantagenets had enriched English with thousands of new words. A huge number of synonyms in modern English appeared as a result of "vaccination" by the French language after the Norman conquest. If Harold had won the battle of Hastings, then the language of modern English would be completely different from the current one.

The construction of the Cathedral in Bayea in 1070, perhaps, was also financed by the wealth confiscated from the English aristocracy. Other traces are less material, but no less significant. Among the fenced pastures of the Cherbourg Peninsula in the west and the expanses of France in the northeast there are many cities and villages, whose names are closely related to some well-known families of Britain. Famous families of British aristocrats - De Quincey, Mobray, Mortimer, Pomeroy, Sackwil, De Vere - happened from places like Quinches, Monbre, Mormemar, La Pomeras, Secuville and Ver. This is also a legacy of the Norman conquest, and all these names still evoke in the ears of the British memories of their clan francophone aristocracy. The ancestors of these aristocrats were influential people who migrated to England immediately after the Norman conquest or with the second and subsequent waves of immigration.

In different ways, the events captured on the tapestry from Bayeux, have influenced English history so that their echoes are still heard. After nine centuries, we can still feel the consequences that cannot be attributed only to conquest, as such. The Norman invasion of 1066 was the last case in the history of England when it was conquered by another state. Neither Philip II of Spain in 1580's, nor Napoleon at the beginning of the 18th century, nor Adolf Hitler in 1940's could repeat the achievement of William the Conqueror anymore ...

So how was it all the same?

It is believed that in the battle of Hastings 14 in October 1066, the equestrian army of the Norman knights unsuccessfully attacked the British while they were hiding behind a “shield wall” on a hill. But, having lured them into an open place by a false retreat, Wilhelm used his advantage in cavalry and defeated the British. King Harold fell in battle, and in England the Norman rule was established. However, why it all happened that way, and not otherwise, English-speaking historians still argue.


Norman archers and riders go on the attack. 51 scene (excerpt). Photos of embroidery from the "Museum of the carpet", Bayeux).


At the same time, an increasing number of them are inclined to what actually happened in the battle of Hastings, and what is actually depicted on the tapestry, there is a big difference. Thus, on William’s side, there is only one cavalry, but according to other sources large forces of infantry and archers were involved, and the Norman horsemen were in the rear at the beginning of the battle, and only later were the first to go, although on the tapestry everything is completely wrong ...

Interestingly, in the battle scenes on the Bayesian Tapestry you can see 29 archery warriors. However, 23 of them are depicted on the hem, outside the main field, which clearly indicates their secondary role, although many riders on the main field are literally stuck with arrows. There you can also see four foot Norman warriors (the British themselves prefer the name Normans) in defensive armament and with bows in their hands, and one archer-sax, dressed completely uncomfortable. Equestrian archer is only one. He also does not have defensive weapons and keeps behind the pursuing Saxons of the Norman knights. This is hardly forgetfulness of embroiderers: since all the other details of the weapons are shown on the tapestry in sufficient detail and embroidered very carefully.

From the school history textbook (yes, by the way, the university textbook too!) We know that the main role in this battle was played by the cavalry of the Conqueror, who attacked the Englishmen who stood on the hill several times, who were hiding there behind the “wall of shields” in the end, a mock retreat lured them into the plain. Well, and there, of course, they upset their ranks, and the cavalry immediately surrounded them and destroyed them all. But how could such a thing have happened, because Harold, the leader of the British, was by no means new to military affairs. He literally just won a decisive victory over the Norwegians who landed in England, but for some reason all of his troops are shown on the tapestry on foot, although the shields of his warriors are for the most part no different from the equestrian shields of his Norman opponents!


It was these helmets that were on the warrior’s head at the Battle of Hastings. (About the XI century. Found in Moravia in the town of Olomuc in 1864. Currently in the Kunsthistorisches Museum in Vienna.


And Harold himself was at first wounded by an arrow in the eye, and after that he was hacked with the swords of the Norman knights. So here it is the secret tapestry - in front of us! On the battlefield at Hastings that day, it was not the equestrian army of the Duke Wilhelm that triumphed, but the infantry and archers of Count Eustace of Bologna, who literally fell asleep the British with their arrows. It was only at the very end that the knightly cavalry of the Duke William really hit them, but this was unsuccessful! Hardly having overcome the steepness of the ascent to the hill, its riders underwent a fierce Khuskarl counterattack - Harold's elite warriors who skillfully owned their two-handed wide-axes. The Norman knights fled, and panicked rumor spread that Duke William was killed. And none other than Count Eustace, who organized the attack on the British infantry from the flank with a banner in their hands. “There he is, William!” He shouted, and at that time Wilhelm lowered the chain mail visor from his face, threw his helmet back on his head, and the soldiers recognized him.


The arrow hits Harold in the eye. Overhead Harold embroidered the inscription: "Harold-King is killed here." 57 scene (excerpt). Photos of embroidery from the "Museum of the carpet", Bayeux).


The soldiers of the Earl Harold, in turn, were not infantrymen, but exactly the same riders as the riders of Wilhelm, with the exception of his famous hozarls, who, however, were not so numerous in his army! But Harold himself, apparently not trusting his warriors and fearing betrayal, ordered them to fight on foot, and hid horses in the nearby forest behind the hill they occupied. After all, it is on horses that they run from the Conqueror's warriors pursuing them after their defeat, which is reflected in the 59 episode of the tapestry.

Yes, and the characters from the fables of Aesop are depicted on the border tapestry is not by chance! They seem to suggest: “Not everything is so simple here! Everything here, like that of Aesop, has a double meaning! ”However, unfortunately, we can only guess at all this so far!

Reconstruction of the course of the battle, taking into account new readings of the Bayesian Canvas


First phase: The British are standing on top of a hill with a long, winding line, hiding behind shields from the front. The Normans step on them from the foot of the hill in three lines. Ahead of the archers, behind them the infantry and, finally, behind it are troops of knightly cavalry, which, of course, could not be very much. On the left flank commanded by the Duke William, on the right - Count Eustace of Bologna.


The second phase: Archers shot all the arrows, and retreated to replenish supplies to the camp of the Normans. The infantry attacks the "wall of shields," but its attacks are successfully repelled.



The third phase: Archers return and subject the position of the British to massive shelling. Earl Harold wounded by an arrow in the eye. Knights approach the wall of shields and group at the foot of the hill to attack.



The fourth phase: the warriors of Harold, unable to withstand the shelling of bows, rush down the hill. The troops of Duke Wilhelm, including his horsemen, are taken aback and retreat. Panic begins. There is a rumor that the duke is murdered. Count Eustace of Bologna rebuilds his cavalry and leads her to the aid of Wilhelm.



Fifth phase: The flanking attack of the cavalry of the Count of Bologna to the rear of the advancing Englishmen leads to their encirclement and subsequent destruction.



The sixth phase: A joint attack of infantry and cavalry of the Normans on the "wall of shields", the death of Harold and the British retreat in the direction of the forest, where the survivors, most likely, mounted their horses and fled.


Maps A.Shepsa
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  1. +2
    6 August 2015 07: 39
    Indeed, much more interesting than the pop version. I wonder how the battle could have gone if the Angles had rushed from the hill to the cavalry with the support of the flanks of the infantry in the last phase of the battle?
    1. +4
      6 August 2015 15: 44
      Quote: cth; fyn
      I wonder how the battle could have gone if the Angles had rushed from the hill to the cavalry with the support of the flanks of the infantry in the last phase of the battle?


      For the SAKSAM cavalry, an aristocracy loyal to the king was needed, for support of the flanks by infantry (0_o), numerous well-formed military collectives were needed, and not a militia recruited as a success.

      Such an event was possible in one case - the voluntary transition of the Saxons to the side of Harald Hardrada (Kharka Specific, son-in-law of Yaroslev Khitry, aka Yaroslav the Wise). Then the Normans would really have nothing to do. The newcomers of Harald (whose death ended the Viking Age) and the wall of the Saxon shields, plus the local cavalry aristo - and sit Wilhelm among the chalk cliffs of Dover, writing a petition for repatriation to the mainland - after all, neither rye for soldiers nor oats for horses grow, but Channel fleet ...

      Years later, Yaroslav "the Wise" throws the Kiev throne (three times) and which of the heirs is the best? That's right: a commander, a poet ("The Hangs of Joy" is really a monument of literature, Harold is our president) and a strong proprietor, the Normans are again the victor (he burned Sicily, the Norman state) ... nature reserve like Rügen or Arkona.

      Brothers visionaries, we recognize the alternative of a colleague cth; fyn as vital, I propose to offer it to the writing writer of alternatives Mazin. Let the novel "Tapestry from Vyshgorod" write.

      For such knizhentsiya and the ruble is not a pity to give.

      PS Thank you Vyacheslav for expanding the continuation of the previous part of the article, they really lifted our spirits against the background of distant realities.
      1. +2
        6 August 2015 16: 46
        And thank you, that appreciate! By the way, in the West there is a novel about the search for a torn part of the carpet and what was on it. I really want to read, but it’s not translated into Russian, but read English long. Someone could translate and offer our publishing houses! They are more willing to take translations from there than the books of our authors! And this is also a detective!
  2. +1
    6 August 2015 08: 06
    ... But, having lured them with a false retreat to an open place, William used his advantage in cavalry and defeated the British... Harold’s tactics were correct .. took a position .. inconvenient .. for cavalry and infantry attacks .. The task was to exhaust the opponent and, if possible, inflict maximum damage when the enemy ran out of fire to launch a counterattack ... But it did not grow together ..
    There are three versions of who created the tapestry and what is the meaning of the conclusion .. The author suggested one of them ...
    1. +2
      6 August 2015 08: 14
      Harolt had cavalry, but why did she fight on foot? Not trusting your own people is strange. and it seems to me that the use of the "shield wall" should have automatically focused on archers, i.e. the Normans in the first phase had to suffer more significant losses than the Angles.
      1. +5
        6 August 2015 09: 53
        Duck at Harolt had cavalry, but why did she fight on foot? Do not trust your own people is strange
        Nothing strange. Harold's army was exhausted by forced march across the country after a bloody battle. Warriors were exhausted by the weeks of war. Accordingly, Harold did not have fresh reserves for an offensive battle. After the battle with the Vikings, most of the army was disbanded before news came of a new invasion in the south. A new mobilization could not be carried out quickly.
        Wilhelm had time to dig in, establish supplies and his troops were not battered. Well, as it were, the very concept of conquest requires active action.

        So Harold adopted the right tactic - to exhaust the enemy on the defensive until the end of a new mobilization and reinforcements approach. Accordingly, the position was chosen and the horse army in a hurry - after all, these are not only the riders themselves, but also just professional and well-equipped soldiers. Who know how to fight well and dismounted.

        In fact, the outcome of the battle was decided by the wound of Harold and the subsequent loss of a clear command at the crucial moment of the battle - the Anglo-Saxons could not resist the temptation to counterattack. What played into the hands of the Normans with their cavalry and on the plain.
        Would have stood still and then even the death of Harold would not have decided anything for William. Because every new day is reinforcements for the Angilans and the loss of combat potential for the Normans (wounds, illnesses, depletion of supplies, etc.)
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          6 August 2015 11: 36
          This is already more interesting, in my opinion, in case of a warlord’s death and death, there should be a deputy who can bring the original plan to the end, and even with the death of William (whom the Angles lured into) the counterattack is useless since the aggressor will sail away. In general, we can say that any counterattack, whatever form it might have, even though an equestrian wedge of at least a foot phalanx, would lead (and lead) to the defeat of the Angles?
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            7 August 2015 08: 16
            Now this is more interesting, in my opinion, in case of war and death of the military commander, there should be a deputy who can bring the initial plan to the end
            You think in modern categories. Ideally, yes, it should be. In fact, in the vast majority of cases, everything was closed personally to the commander / king / prince, etc. Personal oath, personal authority. And, accordingly, influence during the battle.
            As already mentioned in the comments, hiding the fact of the leader’s death often kept the army in operational obedience. And the slightest doubt in the authorities (not only in his injury or death) led in history to the defeat of an even stronger side. And this despite the fact that often the size of the battlefield and the situation did not allow the whole army to see its leader. A good example is the defeat of Darius by Alexander the Great at the Battle of Issus. When the personal cowardice of Darius led to the mass flight of the Persians. With their significant superiority in reserves and quite decent parity in armament and controllability.
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              10 August 2015 02: 46
              hiding the fact of the leader’s death often kept the army in operational obedience.


              There is a good samurai film on this subject.
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            9 August 2015 00: 29
            In case of injury or death, the commander must be deputy. And in case of the death of the monarch? Do not forget that legally William the Conqueror had rights to the English throne where much more than Harold, who usurped power based on personal authority. No Harold - it makes no sense to fight!
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    6 August 2015 09: 17
    cth; fyn (1) RO Today, 08:14 ↑ New

    Duck at Harolt had cavalry, [/quote†... The task is to exhaust the opponent and, if possible, inflict maximum damage when the enemy is out of breath to deliver a counterattack. It did not grow to inflict a counterattack by cavalry ..those. Normans in the first phase should have suffered more significant losses than the Angles...Yes it was so ... think to shoot from where it is more convenient from the hill or from the foot ..? .. The Angles were led to a provocation .. and to be well led .. I mean that William was allegedly killed .. the main enemy .. A simple example ..D.Donskoy..specially exchanged armor..and became a member of ordinary warriors..for which, so that there would be no panic .. and rumors .. that hope Prince Dmitry was alive and beating somewhere, maybe next. .a not a real one was killed .. Or a battle on the Kosovo field .. An abundance penetrated the sultan’s tent and killed the Turkish Sultan .. but the Turks managed to hide the death of the Sultan and won .. Neiz it’s known how it would have happened if the Turks, at the height of the battle, would have known about the death of the Sultan .. moreover, the Serbian princes fought on the side of the Turks as they would behave and against whom the troops turned .. And there are many similar cases ..
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      6 August 2015 09: 44
      It turns out that the Garalt did not particularly shine with a talent for leadership, since he was led to such a primitive maneuver.
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        7 August 2015 08: 19
        It turns out that the Garalt did not particularly shine with a talent for leadership, since he was led to such a primitive maneuver.
        You would also be fooled by getting an arrow into the skull.
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    6 August 2015 12: 21
    To go nuts ....
    If the alleged tapestry, it is unknown when and by whom created, the characters of Aesop's fables are depicted, it is unknown when he lived, then here, of course, you can draw very significant conclusions.
    ...
    Here you read the material - and so it becomes a pity for the works of the author.
    Nothing has been preserved from the legendary embroideries of other craftswomen - not a thread, not a shred. Scriptures alone. Legendary.
    And from this work, from more than five hundred characters and up to hundreds of scenes - well, there IS literally ALL.
    It is not known only when it was done, by whom it was done, according to whose idea it was done. Where did Baye come from?
    Those. - source data - zero. N O L ... apart from the writings of the fifteenth century.
    ...
    And the funniest thing is the screenwriter, which means that he mocked traditional history. Then back in 1077 (well, ten years later, after the Battle of Hastings).
    And as the strongest mockery he inserted into the scenes all sorts of grooms and other jesters - along with the dukes and counts. So?
    What gives us reason to consider this screenwriter a serious person? Nothing.
    Imagine Lavrov at a meeting with Kerry, the fun-loving, swinging magazine.
    So here.
    The screenwriter is unknown, by the way. Alleged ... sculpted its scenes with the expectation of millennia, no?
    He knew for sure that in a thousand years (almost) the descendants would become frenzied by the jester of pea Turold on an embroidered sheet. From the noble ummy Elfiva ... from the brother of the future king of England, and now the priest.
    We are offered to believe in such.
    ...
    Freedom - the will, historians - paradise.
    Kill me with the very arrow that hit Harold’s eye, but I can’t take such material seriously.
    "Dune" and the Universe of Necromongers in this case are much cooler.
    ...
    Sorry for the work of the author.
    Because tomorrow, let's say, they will find a new tapestry ... in Fort Bayard, suppose. And there - there will be no dwarf.
    And then what to do?
    Compose a new one?
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      6 August 2015 16: 50
      Well, since there are historical sources, they are studied, right? And it gives rise to various hypotheses. Until another tapestry has been found, we have what we have. He has already given a lot to historians and, I hope, he will give even more. Here I will move, I will look at it myself. You look ... the enlightenment will come down. Joke!
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      7 August 2015 08: 24
      Judging by your writings, the concept of the scientific method of cognition is not familiar to you. That speaks about the extremely low quality of education. As, however, the clumsy slang you are using.
      You are not aware that all such theories and conclusions are drawn not only from the contemplation of the tapestry itself, but from the study of chronicles, objects of material culture of the corresponding period and locality, historical and geographical research, and much more. And only by bringing all the sources together, comparing them with each other, subjecting EACH of them to criticism and mutual verification, any conclusions are made.
      Alas for you ...
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      10 August 2015 02: 51
      Sorry for the work of the author.
      Because tomorrow, let's say, they will find a new tapestry ... in Fort Bayard, suppose. And there - there will be no dwarf.
      And then what to do?
      Compose a new one?


      What if Fort Bayard came up on TV and it really isn’t ??? !!! belay
  5. +2
    6 August 2015 13: 20
    Did Harold have cavalry? Horse to the studio !! As already correctly noted in this article, the Saxons were in the civilizational space, like Russia, of the Scandinavian world, and at that time the wall of shields and foot battles (since the Vikings were primarily sea robbers and merchants) were the main method of warfare! The horse was used as a vehicle! The same wall of shields of Russi was built in front of the Byzantines near Dorostol! We owe the appearance of cavalry to close "communication" with the Turkic world (Polovtsy and Pechenegs)! By the way, the cavalry of the Normans, then they did not act as a ramming blow, but threw spears approaching the enemy!
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      6 August 2015 13: 32
      And about throwing copies of the profic mona?
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        6 August 2015 14: 07
        Yes, even on the same tapestry. Four riders. The first holds a long spear in a lowered hand, and the two behind prepare to throw darts. Actually, science as a physicist tells us that a dart thrown from a speeding horse flies on and hits harder. And then the Normans knew physics perfectly.
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          7 August 2015 08: 44
          Yes, even on the same tapestry. Four riders. The first holds a long spear in a lowered hand, and the two behind prepare to throw darts. Actually, science as a physicist tells us that a dart thrown from a speeding horse flies on and hits harder. And then the Normans knew physics perfectly.
          The tapestry depicts knights holding a spear with an upper grip for an injection rather than throwing. Just like on the many icons of St. George, striking the serpent. Or in all sorts of antique images, for example, Alexander the Great. Heavy cavalry never dabbled in darts. These are light cavalry weapons.
          The spear is too heavy and bulky to throw. Even at full gallop. And besides, you won’t save enough copies.
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      6 August 2015 14: 53
      Sorry, but this is nonsense - about the cavalry. Alexander of Macedon was far from riding on a stick to fight. Or did he also borrow his cavalry from ancient ukrov?
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        6 August 2015 21: 01
        Take it higher it was protoukr)
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      7 August 2015 08: 29
      Did Harold have cavalry?
      There was cavalry in any kingdom of that period. The whole question is in its quantity regarding the size of the entire army and the way the commander uses it on the battlefield. So do not doubt it was. Although it didn’t do much weather. As you rightly pointed out, the Saxons used primarily infantry tactics.
      By the way, and the cavalry of the Normans, then acted not with a ramming strike but with a metal spear approaching the enemy!
      She used ramming blow. This is evidenced by a complex of weapons. But along with it, the method of attack, outdated by this time, was used when the spear was not rammed into a gallop, but stabbed, holding either a lower grip (from the thigh) or an upper (from the head). This is what is depicted on the tapestry.
      Throwing spears is a completely senseless thing. Because the spear is not a dart, too heavy for that. Though from a place, even for a gallop.
      That's just from the time of the Normans of William and his beautifully organized numerous cavalry ram ram (clamped on the mouse) at a gallop and has become the main method of attacking a knight in battle.
  6. +2
    6 August 2015 15: 14
    If someone watched "Braveheart": there is an episode of a battle between the Scots and the British. The British start with archers. Fire several volleys. Then the heavy cavalry tries to break through the infantry line. The infantry, in turn, exposes sharpened stakes. Then the Scottish Reserve attack sums it up.

    The fight in the film is shown historically true. It has always been like this: slingers, archers, light infantry begin the battle, then they scatter and try to pull the enemy under the blow of the phalanx, or cavalry. The battle at Hastings was certainly no different. The light infantry of the Normans began, withdrew, the knights attacked. Do not break. Archers came into action again, this time firing a canopy.

    While Harold could command - the system kept even under a hail of arrows. When he was wounded, the system broke. The British apparently tried to overturn the enemy and turn the retreat of his archers into flight. It didn’t work either. The attack got bogged down in the Norman knights, turned into a dump and few came out of it. The reserve of the British did not take part in the battle and made legs. That's all. Everything is simple, like a broom and if William had not started a new era in the history of England, they would not have remembered the battle.
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      6 August 2015 16: 54
      Here the whole problem is that the hill of Senlak, where the Saxons were long, but narrow, like a razor blade. There now stands a monastery, as it is just long, but narrow. And the slopes are steep. That is, the cavalry could not accelerate, going uphill. But the infantry and podmyalo run down and slash a horse with an ax on the back. And the arrows fly better down than up. So the role of the Norman cavalry in the battle is greatly exaggerated.
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        6 August 2015 17: 53
        Not a fact ... They are cool now, but how many years have passed? And if there were real fortifications on the hill, would at least one get out of defense? We would sit at the picket fence. There is no blockade, behind the forest.

        And here there is one caveat: sitting like this would mean losing the war precisely because of the presence of a strong cavalry among the Normans. Access to the communication of the British would not be long in coming. As soon as William would orient in the situation, he would try to surround the enemy and it is unlikely that the English knights without infantry could break through the encirclement. One way or another, the infantry would have to leave a favorable position, and in the field the Scots, who had almost no armor, had no chance.

        So the British had no options. Only attack and defeat the enemy. Probably someone prematurely gave the order for the king. Harold was clearly about to sit on the hill until the Normans stopped attacking.
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          7 August 2015 08: 51
          And here there is one caveat: sitting like this would mean losing the war precisely because of the presence of a strong cavalry among the Normans. Access to the communication of the British would not be long in coming. As soon as William would orient in the situation, he would try to surround the enemy
          The rear of the Saxons defended the forest. The position was perfect. That allowed a small and exhausted FORCED march across the whole country of Harold’s army to fight the rested and not battered army of William on equal terms. So much so that Wilhelm had already begun to despair. The battle was so stubborn and without an advantage. Only the wound and death of Harold himself decided everything. The loss of army control followed, the erroneous counterattack of the Saxons with the loss of a strong position on the hill and the subsequent defeat.

          Time worked against William. If the parties had drawn in a draw in the evening, this would have signified the end of the invasion. Because: Normans would lose heart from such a stubborn battle; Harold expected reinforcements; the Saxons have a whole country with supplies behind them, and the Normans have a sea behind them.
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            7 August 2015 10: 34
            You contradict yourself. If the Norman army was fresh, and the British were exhausted, why did the Normans have to retreat and get out of the country after the first battle? And why was this fighting spirit supposed to fall? The British, for example, were not defeated, but the defeats themselves did not suffer. So no time worked against William.

            I understand that it is difficult to explain something to someone who studied tactics from the game "Cossacks", but turn on your brains. The enemy took up an advantageous position fortified by nature itself. Reinforcements may approach him. He does not want to leave the position. Any sensible commander (do not deny Wilhelm the presence of a brain) will try to surround the enemy. Then the reinforcements will not reach, and he will soon have nothing to eat. Having completed the encirclement, the cavalry will slowly plunder the area, and the infantry will get out of contact with the enemy and, under its cover, will sink to the nearest city. It's not computer units in it. Warriors want to live beautifully, and for this they need to rob. A foreign country, why be ashamed? Local feudal lords will draw conclusions and go over to Wilhelm's side. The infantry will be replenished with local yeomen (then they had not yet heard of patriotism). Not life is raspberry.

            And let Harold still sit on his hill until the Normans take London.
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              14 August 2015 07: 54
              You contradict yourself. If the Norman army was fresh, and the English were worn out by the British, why did the Normans have to retreat and get out of the country after the first battle?
              These are the basics of military logistics and the psychology of the masses of people.
              1. Poor supply.
              2. Large losses in the battle and many wounded in the wagon train. At the then level of medicine.
              3. Accordingly, a steady decline in discipline and decomposition of the army.
              4. Inspiring the Saxons from the enduring battle in such conditions (after the recent victorious battle with the Vikings and the crazy march through the country.
              5. Corresponding and undeniable (by the standards of the Middle Ages) proof of the rights to the throne for Harold by deed. Hence the general enthusiasm in the country and the growth of activity of supporters.
              6. Accordingly, the acceleration of the arrival of reserves from mobilization and good supply.
              7. Which leads either to defeat in the second battle, or squeezing the enemy into the sea by blockade.
              I understand that it is difficult to explain something to someone who studied tactics from the game "Cossacks", but turn on your brains.
              You don't have to continue further. Go play "Cossacks" further ...
              Having completed the encirclement, the cavalry will be in no hurry to plunder the district, and the infantry will come out of contact with the enemy and under its cover will sink to the nearest city.
              The geography of the area did not allow. What, apparently, is unknown to you. Harold's position just blocked the road to honey with two vast forests of the southern part of the country. The nearest district was already plundered by William from the moment of landing until the battle. And ... his dead warriors will rise, the wounded will flee faster than the healthy ... While at any moment the native army of the plundered country, reinforced by reinforcements, will plant a spear in jo ..., sorry for the rear. Smash nonsense.
              The infantry will be replenished with local Yeomen (at that time they had not heard of patriotism).
              Complete ignorance of the situation and psychology of that time. ShchAZZZZ, after Wilhelm landed and a couple of weeks of genocide of the district (and why be ashamed, and you need to set up the country so that you lose the will to fight): robbed, burned villages, killed completely men and raped women (and also killed after ...) Yeah! Yeomen with enthusiasm will go to the slaughter to scumbag over the sea.
              And let Harold still sit on his hill until the Normans take London.
              Yeah, and every day restores fighting efficiency and is strengthened by reinforcements. Yes, in the wake of spiritual recovery from the successful battles experienced during the month.
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    6 August 2015 16: 27
    cth; fyn (1) RO Today, 07:39 AM
    Indeed, much more interesting than the pop version. I wonder how the battle could have gone if the Angles had rushed from the hill to the cavalry with the support of the flanks of the infantry in the last phase of the battle?

    And if you put the Huscarls on one of the flanks and hit the Normans, who would have cut into the militias, on the flank-rear?
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      6 August 2015 16: 54
      I can not say! This will not be history.
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        8 August 2015 19: 16
        wink ask the professor.
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      7 August 2015 08: 58
      And if you put the Huscarls on one of the flanks and hit the flank-rear of the Normans, who would have cut into the militias? Would overturn, huh?
      To do this, you must have:
      - the right amount of reserves - most of the army was disbanded after defeating the Vikings at Samford Bridge in the north a couple of weeks before;
      - Huscarls would have to have other weapons and tactics for attacking Wilhelm's cavalry: long spear-lances and tight construction, not poleaxes and loose order (in attack);
      - have a speed of movement across the battlefield (while maintaining formation) comparable to the speed of movement of the cavalry of the enemy, that is, have time to attack the formation before the enemy stupidly organized retreat.
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        8 August 2015 19: 13
        Hmm, it looks like an analysis, it looks good. Professor? History?
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          14 August 2015 08: 05
          Hmm, it looks like an analysis, it looks good. Professor? History?
          For these conclusions, you do not have to be a professor. It is enough to be in the subject:
          1. Huscarls are professionally selected warriors of the monarch’s squad. There can not be many. And they cannot constitute the numerical majority of the army in such large-scale military operations. In addition, chronicles in parchment ink indicate what and how happened during the last month before the battle. And also, everyone who is interested in the history of the period knows the principles of the formation of feudal armies for a big war.
          2. The ax is a two-handed weapon that requires scope. So the system must be sufficiently sparse to use it. Especially not in dead defense, but in attack. But the poleaxe's shaft is not long enough against heavy cavalry armed with much longer spears to attack effectively. At the same time, a sparse attacking order is a gift of fate for heavy cavalry. The horse is hard to make throwing itself on a thick wall of spears. But on a loose system is easy. Moreover, the horse will trample more people than the rider has time to beat.
          3. Before the rider (or his horse) is hit with an ax, he still needs to be caught. And preferably without losing the system (covering comrades).
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    6 August 2015 16: 58
    Different from a brave heart! In the 11th century there were still no horses for a heavy blow with spear cavalry! This is a century later!
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      6 August 2015 18: 06
      That is, the Roman cataphrachs (well, or rather not quite Roman, but for example the same Sarmatians in the service of Rome) - only knew how to shoot bullets from bows? :) By the way, the spear of the Sarmatian horseman was five meters long.
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      6 August 2015 19: 03
      There was no stabbing of a spear (under the arm) - or rather, it was just becoming fashionable, which is what the tapestry says. Before that, they held it with two hands or threw it at a gallop.
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        6 August 2015 20: 21
        Again: on the given tapestry piece, the rider on the far right holds a long spear with one hand. Do you seriously think that he would not have guessed to hold the shaft under his armpit for a blow?

        As for the antiquity of the ramming blow ... Polybius wrote about the Macedonian cavalry spears: "... the first blow with the tip of the spear will be well aimed and effective, since the spear is designed so as to be stable and strong ..." Obviously, the first blow meant ramming, because without acceleration, there is simply no difference between the first and the rest of the spear strikes. ”And they attacked the hetair with a wedge, that is, a typical" pig ".
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          6 August 2015 21: 15
          Yes, the ancient authors wrote a lot about ramming strikes, there are also images of Sarmatian horsemen holding a spear with both hands. And of course, I seriously don't think he didn't guess. Just like that ... And at the same time, that the spears are thrown. That is, it could be a particular, specific case, and a "transitional period", and "the power of tradition", and "as I see it" by the author of the tapestry. Anything can be. We will never know for sure.
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            7 August 2015 05: 59
            Well, it's enough to turn on the brain. Climb on any fence. Let your friend give you a four-meter drin. Take this drin as the rider holds it in the figure above, and you will immediately understand that it is impossible even to Schwarzenegger to strike with one hand from this position. In addition, the blow will turn out too slow (drin is quite heavy), and the length of the injection will be only half a meter. In general, even a very drunken medieval infantry will be a little difficult to kill.

            And you will have to intercept either a spear with two hands (and sew it on ... well, you know), or take it with one hand, from the bottom. But then the spear should be shorter and more convenient for throwing. But for ramming, the first method was just right.
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              7 August 2015 09: 12
              Well, it's enough to turn on the brain. Climb on any fence. Let your friend give you a four-meter drin.
              For the indicated period, the knight's spear was smaller. The size and weight of the lance you indicated became later, with the wide spread of plate armor. That is, by the end of the 14th - beginning of the 15th centuries.
              By the way, when in modern times the armor became obsolete, an injection with a light Cossack lance with one hand again became quite effective.
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          10 August 2015 03: 05
          And they attacked the hetaira with a wedge, that is, a typical "pig".

          Here are just stirrups in nmh was not. The rider kept his horse only at the expense of the strength of his legs. A ram strike with a spear could hurry him.
          After a couple of centuries, cataphracts attached their spears to the horse with chains. (there were still no stirrups.)
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            14 August 2015 08: 09
            After a couple of centuries, cataphracts attached their spears to the horse with chains.
            It is very doubtful about the chain - inadequate weight. But the belt or rope loop - that’s it.
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        7 August 2015 09: 05
        Prior to that, held with two hands or thrown to the gallop.
        Darts were thrown. They pricked with spears with a blow from top to bottom or from the hip ... with one hand. In the second there were reins. Unlike cataphracts of the 2nd-5th centuries, stirrups were used at the indicated time, which made landing in the saddle more durable, and this, in turn, made it possible to make the injection with a spear more powerful.
        Cataphracts, however, did not have stirrups and, in order to carry out a powerful ram, with a spear, they were forced to have a loop on the spear, which was attached to the horse. That is, most of the recoil in the collision of a spear with a target was assumed by the horse.
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          7 August 2015 09: 39
          Everyone can conduct the proposed experiment themselves. Climb a fence (to hell with a saddle) and try to get a three-meter pole into a dog running past. Any blow. Above (without leaning on stirrups, huh!), From below, from the side, throw ... whatever. The legs, I repeat, should not rest on anything. Only the fence, only the hardcore. After that, estimate your chances against the medieval Scots armed with a penknife.

          Do not immediately try with the horse. It’s much harder to stay on it, I guarantee. Armor, too, should not be worn at first. Without them, it’s not so painful to fall. And maybe after the experiment you will have a desire to think with your own head.
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            10 August 2015 03: 11
            Only the fence, only the hardcore. After that, estimate your chances against the medieval Scots armed with a penknife.

            Do not immediately try with the horse. It’s much harder to stay on it,


            The width of the horse - see that way 60. Fences today in bulk from corrugated board .... Hardcore!
  9. +1
    6 August 2015 21: 31
    How can it be?
    huge cathedral, gothic masterpiece in the roman style
    Gothic and Romanesque styles are very different.
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      7 August 2015 17: 20
      Yeah ... probably it is written from fatigue. It is clear that this can not be. The text is big!
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  10. +1
    10 August 2015 00: 50
    In the photo of the reenactors, the hands are protected by gloves and gauntlets, although everyone has open hands on the tapestry ..)))) Safety is above historical)))
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      14 August 2015 08: 17
      In the photo of the reenactors, the hands are protected by gloves and plate mittens, although everyone has open hands on the tapestry ..)))) Safety is above historicity)))
      In the first photo, everything is quite decent in this sense: mainly gloves (leather), chainmail gloves, gloves with reinforcement plates. Everything is fine.
      Now, if there were visible plate (plate) peppers or mittens or brilliant, like Visby. Then it would be wrong.
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    13 January 2022 12: 16
    And yet all this garbage is too many assumptions and conjectures and the secret has not yet been revealed ... And in general the author, if you undertake to describe the battles, take the trouble to study the weapons of that time.