German journalists convict Vladimir Putin of embezzling foreign exchange resources

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Leading Internet portals of Germany preoccupied with Russian gold and foreign exchange reserves. The online version of the most massive German tabloid newspaper Bild, for example, came out with the headline "Because of the love of gold: Putin lost 15 billions of US dollars". Similarly, the theme sounds on the site of the solid left-liberal German weekly Der Spiegel, the state-run television and radio company Deutsche Welle. In this case, all refer to the article "Fatal Thirst for Gold, Vladimir Putin," published last Saturday in the print version of the conservative newspaper Die Welt.

Our gold counted

The meaning of all these clearly orchestrated publications comes down to almost the same general thesis: “The Russian president made a strategic miscalculation by betting on a significant increase in the share of gold in the gold and foreign exchange reserves of the Russian Federation, since the price of the noble metal will fall and will continue to fall.

The tone of the all-German theme was set by the authors of the article in Die Welt, the economic section of the newspaper Nando Sommerfeld and Holger Zszepitz. They scrupulously counted the Russian gold and recorded the result: from 2007, our country tripled its gold reserves - from 400 tons to the current 1275 tons. Only in the last month she bought over 24 tons. As a result, today Russia has the sixth largest reserves of precious metal in the world, second only to the United States, Germany, Italy, France and China.

By replacing the strategic thinking of school arithmetic, Die Welt, and with it the media who are connected to the topic, make a simple and accessible conclusion that "gold has gone out of fashion among investors", and therefore "before the eyes of Putin, Russian riches because of turbulence on commodity exchanges are increasingly melting. " So, an ounce is now worth less than 1100 dollars. This is the lowest level since March 2010. Only since the beginning of 2014, when “the Russian president, due to the Crimean crisis, fell into a state of downright feverish buying,” did gold fall by about one-fifth. "Gold will continue to lose value as a ersatz currency."

Before challenging the last passage of German journalists, I confess, I have been following the growth of Russia's gold reserves not so long ago - about three years. Since it has become obvious to attentive observers: Russia has transferred foreign trade to gold settlements. This happened after the dismissal of Alexei Kudrin, recognized by the Americans as "the best finance minister of the world."

Under Kudrin, the settlement scheme was as follows: oil, gas, and other resources were sold for dollars. Then they bought the so-called treasuries (IOUs of the US Treasury), thereby unclaimed budget dollars returned to the West, where our oil and gas had already gone. All in one gate.

After Kudrin, the calculations changed radically. Resources are still selling for dollars. They are buying up cheap gold, replenishing the state reserve. The bottom line is that oil and gas are sold for gold. This metamorphosis was not immediately noticed by the “investors”. Their reaction became speculative manipulations. They led to the fact that the noble metal became cheaper, and the currency value of the gold reserve fell. But the thing is that the physical volumes of the metal in the vaults of the country grew. And not expensive. For example, in the last crisis year, when, under pressure from sanctions, the domestic ruble jumped and shrank, the Central Bank bought more than 170 tons of gold in reserves. This, essentially one-time, share in scale exceeded the gold reserves of such countries as Australia, Sweden, Mexico, South Korea, further down the list. After all, only 25 countries in the world have more gold than what Russia bought in one 2014 year.

Russia is not alone in its desire to replenish reserves. In five years, neighboring Kazakhstan raised its reserves from 67 to 203 tons. During the same period, Turkey increased its gold reserves from 116 to 513 tons.

China stands out in this line. Five years ago, he stopped publishing official data on the status of his gold reserves. A simple comparison of the mined metal and its consumption on the market showed analysts that the Middle Kingdom is actively buying gold into reserves at a rate of up to 400 tons per year. Not so long ago, China refreshed official data. To the dismay of observers, in five years, its reserves have grown by only 600 tons. However, thoughtful analysts agree that "if you dump the entire volume all at once," it disorganizes the market. New numbers will be updated gradually. However, China will have to show the world the volume of its gold, because this year it claims to include the yuan in the pool of reserve currencies. The decisive factor in making this decision will be the volume of the country's gold reserve. That is, the same resource that German propagandists, enthusiastic about the criticism of Vladimir Putin, are so indulgent about today.

Himalayas of dollars and euros

You can understand them. “The second most significant global currency, the euro, Moscow,” writes Die Welt, “after the onset of the Crimean crisis, ceased to be regarded as an object of investment.” Here, as they say, the dog is buried. It does not suit the Germans that Russia has ceased to invest in their currency, and therefore, to finance the European economy. Meanwhile, things on the continent do not shine.

At the same time, when the German media were preoccupied with Russian gold reserves, the specialists of the International Monetary Fund published their opinion. They noted "the preservation of the difficult macroeconomic situation in the eurozone countries and stated that the program of printing money from the European Central Bank in the future may have to be expanded."

We are talking about the so-called quantitative easing programs, when an unsecured currency is emitted (put into circulation) to finance economic programs. I will not go into details of the use of these funds. Sooner or later they move into public debt. In the United States of America, it today exceeded $ 18 trillions. The European Union states have similar debt, only in euros, respectively. Is it a lot or a little?

On the web, I stumbled upon the calculations of mathematicians. They determined that a stack of $ 100 billion 1 dollar bills would occupy 1100 meters in height. It turns out that the highest peak of Earth Everest is equal to a stack of $ 8 billions. One can imagine these Himalayas poorly endowed with euros and dollars. Experts believe that, for example, the amount of US currency already exceeds all the total resources of the world.

It is hard to imagine. Easier to evaluate in small. Well-known economic observer Grigory Beglaryan recently gave this example. In 1998, a luxury house in the UK was sold for $ 54 million, and now for $ 547 million (refers to data from a company specializing in luxury real estate), and an exclusive Lamborgini car in $ 1998 was worth $ 750 thousand, and now $ 9 million. In other words, money has depreciated more than ten times. Financial bubbles were formed, which turned the world currencies into the very ersatz-money, for which German journalists accepted precious gold.

The fact is that speculative frauds with real assets, whether oil, gas or other raw materials, do not increase their physical volumes. Money is simpler, they can grow on virtual manipulations. This art has been mastered long ago, since the time of American Reaganomics. Heights it reached considerable. So much so that with the actual fall in the value of fiat (the face value of which is guaranteed by the state) money, real assets also fall in price.

It seems that the secret is simple. Such financial techniques are possible with the consent of all market participants and the lack of resistance of those whom financial manipulations create problems. Now there is opposition from the BRICS countries, Russia, and developing commodity states. It has preoccupied those who build wealth not on wealth creation, but on currency manipulations. Sensing a threat to their interests, they are releasing from the wings behind-the-scenes Klikush like the propaganda detachment of the German media.

Their predictions are loud, but not decisive. Serious analysts subject such conclusions to reasonable doubt. For example, Commerzbank's Karen Jones considers the current weakness of precious metals quotes to be “exaggerated” and predict a recovery in prices towards the end of 2015.

... However, gold is not a perishable product. This reserve is not valued by quarter or year. He has a long duration. Who remembers the market value of prewar gold now? But everyone knows: 2600 tons of precious metal in the reserves of the Soviet Union allowed the country to solve the most difficult task in its stories. It is a pity that the Germans began to forget about it ...
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  1. +18
    29 July 2015 06: 34
    Hehehehe, let's translate everything into cut paper from the Fed and the ECB. So that the wolves are fed and the sheep are safe ... Or, on the contrary, the wolves are safe and the sheep are fed ...
    It always amazed how everyone should be fooled so that the whole world would turn on this scam.
    And I have repeatedly heard that in the United States dollars that are brought from abroad and with which visitors are paid are immediately singled out and there is no progress within the United States, that this is different money. This allows you to manipulate volumes in the world and print into the void, namely by inflating an external financial bubble throughout the world.
    If anyone is in the know, enlighten.
    1. +4
      29 July 2015 08: 11
      Putin isn’t so stupid
      He is also an "oak" character!
      If someone wants to harm him,
      He knows how to finish off the "goat"!
      1. +6
        29 July 2015 08: 56
        Quote: Vladimir57
        Putin isn’t so stupid


        Let more gold, silver, and other valuable metals and stones accumulate, but you still have to give up the dollar anyway.
        America itself will still have to use its dollars as toilet paper someday
        1. +8
          29 July 2015 09: 10
          And here you are right, no doubt!
          And their "papers" - to the toilet!
          On gold we are alive
          Yes, we are hardworking without them,
          But with oil, be careful
          Not much to be dependent on her,
          Here the savings are more expensive
          And so we will increase our life!
        2. +2
          29 July 2015 09: 24
          After reading the article, Zadornov’s words come to mind - well, those stupid Americans (Germans).
          The analysis is done for this period, but right now no one is going to sell gold - they are only going to buy. If you follow the logic of the author, the five countries that have more impressive reserves generally hit.
          Gold is a long-term investment and the author needs to know this before writing an article.
          1. +3
            29 July 2015 10: 05
            Quote: nitrid
            Gold is a long-term investment and the author needs to know this before writing an article.

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            Now they even buy jewelry gold, which was not observed in jewelry stores before ... Now, please, old jewelry is immediately bought right in the store ...
            1. +2
              29 July 2015 15: 01
              Quote: Altona
              Quote: nitrid
              Gold is a long-term investment and the author needs to know this before writing an article.

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              Now they even buy jewelry gold, which was not observed in jewelry stores before ... Now, please, old jewelry is immediately bought right in the store ...

              Until new deposits of gold are developed somewhere on other planets, "devaluation" does not threaten gold.

              American economists are trying to shove cut paper instead of gold into others, often by force, while they themselves have the largest reserves of gold in the world in their vaults. And they do not think to give someone else's gold, taken "for storage". Already they threw China for gold, and Germany. America is a country tossed about.
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              2. -5
                29 July 2015 15: 19
                Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                Until new deposits of gold are developed somewhere on other planets, "devaluation" does not threaten gold.

                Well, first of all. what do you mean by devaluation
                Further (I still think you mean cheaper) and further - why not threaten?
                How is gold different from any other metal? Well let's say zirconium or platinum or silver? Or yttrium - for example?
                1. +3
                  29 July 2015 16: 18
                  Quote: atalef
                  Well, first of all. what do you mean by devaluation
                  Further (I still think you mean cheaper) and further - why not threaten?
                  How is gold different from any other metal? Well let's say zirconium or platinum or silver? Or yttrium - for example?


                  I compared gold to cut green paper, and you suggested other metals. Not quite on the subject of my comment laughing

                  Regarding the comparison of gold with paper money: the production of paper dollars is limited only by the appetites of American economists, but they can no longer mine gold. On the contrary, gold mining is limited and the cost of its extraction is constantly growing. And the demand for gold is also constantly growing throughout the world. Gold, in addition to its jewelry and banking value, is the most valuable consumable of modern industry, the needs of which in this noble metal grow year by year and do not decrease. As a result, gold rises in price from year to year, and paper money is continuously depreciating. At the same time, gold as a means of investment is very convenient: it is expensive and its huge amount does not need to be stored; several hundred tons are enough for such states as Russia, China or the USA. Gold is forever like a metal, it is not subject to corrosion, nor to destruction, nor to utruska / shrinkage. The best currency in the world has not yet been created.

                  If you want to compare gold with other metals according to this criterion, then compare for yourself - it is not difficult. There are other noble metals that are not subject to the influence of time. It remains to compare the demand for these metals and the possibilities for their extraction ...

                  Not for nothing that gold invariably bears the title of king of metals. How many Jews at the time of the Exodus from Egypt laid down their heads for worshiping the Golden Calf. After all, the devils knew whom they worshiped. Not bronze or tin, but gold wink
                  1. -7
                    29 July 2015 17: 21
                    Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                    . On the contrary, gold mining is limited and the cost of its extraction is constantly growing. And the demand for gold is also constantly growing throughout the world. Gold, in addition to its jewelry and banking value, is the most valuable consumable of modern industry, the needs of which in this noble metal grow year by year and do not decrease

                    blah blah blah
                    There are metals much more expensive than gold, they are also used in industry. etc
                    As for the banking value - please decrypt maybe, I understand the cost. but banking value is something new
                    Next - about jewelry - it's generally funny. Well beautiful - what does this have to do with gold reserves?
                    The most expensive metals are California and osmium. The cost of one gram of California ranges from 6,5 to 10 million dollars, because on the planet there are no more than 10 grams of this metal! Osmium is much cheaper - 10 thousand dollars per gram

                    Well, let’s say, ummy, wm is not a substitute for gold?
                    Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                    . As a result, gold rises in price from year to year, and paper money is continuously depreciating.

                    it’s so funny that you just wrote that I won’t even answer it

                    Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                    Gold is forever like a metal, it is not subject to corrosion, nor destruction, nor utrushka / shrinkage

                    Aluminum is the same
                    Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                    It remains to compare the demand for these metals and the possibilities for their extraction ...

                    what's the connection We are talking about value, there are metals that are much more expensive than gold, while they contain all the * advantages * of gold you described
                    Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                    Not for nothing that gold invariably bears the title of king of metals. How many Jews at the time of the Exodus from Egypt laid down their heads for worshiping the Golden Calf

                    Well, how can Jews not be pulled in? I’m probably the only one who’s not right - claiming that gold is not always a relevant investment
                    So here. apart from mental virtues - in gold there is nothing unusual and special and anything can replace it - including mammoth tusks.
                    Only mentality and faith - that is what keeps its place for gold.
                    The same thing with the dollar - mentality and faith --- nothing more
                    Think about it, the people here are being killed for gold. and gold (without faith) is generally zilch - ordinary ordinary metal, expensive, but not the most.
                    Now, while they believe in gold - it will be a reserve, while they believe in the dollar - it will be the same to them.
                    And it seems to me - this will last a long time.
                    1. +4
                      29 July 2015 18: 08
                      Quote: atalef
                      it’s so funny that you just wrote that I won’t even answer it


                      Well, yes, so "did not want to answer" that dashed off half a page laughing

                      To put it mildly, I am surprised by Jews who do not understand or interpret the value of gold incorrectly. Ask qualified Jewish friends about this. Let them chew you. Gold has been used by mankind for thousands of years as a means of accumulating wealth. There is no worthy replacement for him.

                      Speculation with gold on the stock exchanges of precious metals is a separate song ... But, in itself, gold invariably only rises in price and will always rise in price if there is no cardinal leap in technology, or if they cannot find cheap ways to mine gold on other planets. In the short term, this certainly does not threaten humanity. Neither you nor your children.
                    2. +1
                      30 July 2015 10: 41
                      Quote: atalef
                      blah blah blah
                      There are metals much more expensive than gold, they are also used in industry. etc
                      As for the banking value - please decrypt maybe, I understand the cost. but banking value is something new
                      Next - about jewelry - it's generally funny. Well beautiful - what does this have to do with gold reserves?

                      There are such metals, but their quantity is too small to replace gold.
                      Banking value can be an unscientific concept, but being friends with logic and the Russian language, you understand that this is the value of gold as an object for investment and as bank reserves. Due to the fact that gold has many fields of application, including technical (unlike osmium, the use of which is relatively limited), and its reserves are small and production costs are growing.
                      As for jewelry, it’s not funny at all. As the largest consumer of gold, the jewelry industry supports the demand for it.

                    3. 0
                      30 July 2015 20: 25
                      I feed a little troll ...
                      Quote: atalef
                      There are metals much more expensive than gold, they are also used in industry. etc...
                      california and osmium ...
                      Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                      it is not susceptible to corrosion, destruction or crushing / shrinking
                      Aluminum is the same

                      Gold is just an almost ideal way to store your own material assets.
                      Price. Significant reductions in its value are unrealistic due to the impossibility of a quick and large increase in its volumes on the planet. There are three ways out:
                      1. To invent a philosopher's stone (cheaper will become as swift as aluminum);
                      2. Carry gold from other planets / asteroids;
                      3. "Deepen" gold mining (The cost of such mining = depth squared. With a reduction in price - span sad ).
                      Exploitation and use. It’s problematic to use tenths (or less) of a gram of california in mutual calculations wink . Osmium, platinum, iridium are difficult to process (you can’t cut a piece from an ingot with a simple hacksaw), have a higher melting point (furnaces for melting become more complicated) and are more expensive to manufacture. Aluminum is subject to simple abrasion of the surface, toxic (albeit in non-standard conditions, but still), it requires large sizes / volumes of transport for transportation due to the lightness of aluminum. Ivory can be easily damaged mechanically.
                      In short, gold is the "golden mean" among other materials / methods. And in the coming centuries, its price reduction is not expected. hi

                      “Gold will continue to lose value as ersatz-currency"

                      laughing laughing
                      Neighing from the heart, thank you.
                2. -2
                  29 July 2015 18: 27
                  Quote: atalef
                  How is gold different from any other metal?
                  The number of protons and neutrons in the atomic nucleus.

                  But if in fact - gold is getting cheaper because demand is lower than supply. And in many respects also due to the fact that China, due to the fact that its economy is merging into the toilet, and so that the water around the world is noisy, is trying to keep it afloat, selling gold and foreign exchange reserves. But - your work is wonderful, Lord - at the same time the dollar has been rubbed, and the gold is falling.

                  http://www.cnbc.com/2015/07/19/gold-hits-5-year-low-as-bets-mount-on-fed-hike.ht
                  ml
                  1. -1
                    29 July 2015 18: 37
                    Quote: Nagan
                    But - your work is wonderful, Lord - at the same time the dollar is rubbed, and the gold is falling

                    Good day !!!
                    It's all from the devil-- the dollar is growing
                    God-pleasing is when oil is 150 per barrel wassat
                    1. +1
                      29 July 2015 18: 49
                      Quote: atalef
                      It's all from the devil-- the dollar is growing
                      God-pleasing is when oil is 150 per barrel wassat


                      The dollar can grow only in relation to other currencies, in relation to itself, the dollar only falls. Compare prices for similar products in the US 20-40 years ago and today. The dollar has always only fallen. Do not flatter paper currency.

                      And oil is a commodity. If an excess of potatoes has been brought to the market and buyers take it languidly, then the price of potatoes is thrown off to get rid of excess goods. But they will always buy potatoes. So it is with oil. Without oil today everything will rise and we will return to the Stone Age.
                      1. -2
                        29 July 2015 19: 02
                        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                        The dollar can grow only in relation to other currencies, in relation to itself, the dollar only falls.

                        Pearl of course but
                        - inflation from 1 to 2.2% speaks of a dynamically developing economy
                        Negative inflation (diflation), the strengthening of the currency in relation to itself - indicates a stagnation in the economy
                        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                        Compare prices for similar products in the US 20-40 years ago and today. The dollar has always only fallen. Do not flatter paper currency.

                        What rubbish in your head
                        I repeat once again - minimal inflation - speaks about health in the economy
                        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                        And oil is a commodity. If an excess of potatoes has been brought to the market and buyers take it languidly, then the price of potatoes is thrown off to get rid of excess goods. But they will always buy potatoes

                        So they always buy it (notice not for gold, but for dollars)
                        Well, okay, they will buy it, but at what price?
                        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                        So it is with oil. Without oil today everything will rise and we will return to the Stone Age.

                        But this does not mean at all what price.
                      2. +2
                        29 July 2015 19: 23
                        Quote: atalef
                        Pearl of course but
                        - inflation from 1 to 2.2% speaks of a dynamically developing economy
                        Negative inflation (diflation), the strengthening of the currency in relation to itself - indicates a stagnation in the economy


                        It’s just that you didn’t see prices 20-40-60 years ago in the USA. Download some scanned archives of old American catalogs. That in the USA 60 years ago it was worth dollars, now it costs thousands of dollars, etc. Without knowing the topic, it is easiest to hang up shortcuts to people you talk to.

                        Quote: atalef
                        What rubbish in your head
                        I repeat once again - minimal inflation - speaks about health in the economy


                        As for the garbage in my head, I unsubscribed above. This is your cattle breeding in you. As for inflation: the dollar is depreciating, and gold is becoming more expensive against this background. After all, you won’t print gold like paper money. And the Fed prints money with enviable constancy. Soap dollar bubble should be constantly nourished with fresh paper pulp.

                        Quote: atalef
                        So they always buy it (notice not for gold, but for dollars)
                        Well, okay, they will buy it, but at what price?
                        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                        So it is with oil. Without oil today everything will rise and we will return to the Stone Age.

                        But this does not mean at all what price.


                        It is not necessary to sell oil and other resources and goods for dollars only. Oil prices are guaranteed to return and even rise above your cherished $ 150 per barrel laughing This is the law of the market and the USA is not able to change anything here.
                      3. -3
                        29 July 2015 19: 33
                        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                        growth You prices 20-40-60 years ago in the United States did not see

                        Well, 20 years ago - I saw
                        Have you seen 30 years ago in the USSR?
                        Your post is simply nothing, let's better remember the purchasing power of the population and how it changed - or do you, as a normal economist, not take into account the growth of salaries?
                        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                        That in the USA 60 years ago it was worth dollars, now it costs thousands of dollars, etc. Without knowing the topic, it is easiest to hang up shortcuts to people you talk to.

                        Well, yes, 60 years ago, a salary of $ 10 a day was the ultimate dream. but in general --- 1950 --- 203 bucks - a month
                        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                        And regarding inflation: the dollar is depreciating, and gold is becoming more expensive against this background

                        you have the same thing with mathematics.
                        Gold fell by more than 35% in 2 years, inflation in the dollar - 3.8%
                        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                        And the Fed prints money with enviable constancy. Soap dollar bubble should be constantly nourished with fresh paper pulp.

                        Again you deuce, and why then the minimum inflation?
                        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                        It is not necessary to sell oil and other resources and goods for dollars only.

                        It is possible for beads - it will not become more expensive from this
                        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                        And oil prices will return and even rise above your treasured $ 150 per barrel

                        Maybe then you will get cheaper gasoline? laughing Alternative economies have their own laws laughing
                        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                        This is the law of the market and the USA is not able to change anything here.

                        Indeed, all over the world - oil is getting cheaper - gasoline is the same, only in the alternative economy, on the contrary.
                      4. +1
                        29 July 2015 19: 41
                        Quote: atalef
                        Well, 20 years ago - I saw
                        Have you seen 30 years ago in the USSR?
                        Your post is simply nothing, let's better remember the purchasing power of the population and how it changed - or do you, as a normal economist, not take into account the growth of salaries?


                        The USSR, and I remember, and prices, and shortages, and bureaucracy, and the best army in the world with an overwhelmingly educated population.
                        Regarding the economy. Did I write that I am an economist? Just chatting together. I write only about what is visible on the surface to everyone. You do not have to be an economist for this.

                        In the USA, in addition to power and gangster scenarios, the limit of effective actions has been exhausted. ISIS, illegal sanctions against Russia and pressure on the EU are today's tools of the foreign policy of the Terrorist States of America. America is no longer a cake.
                      5. -6
                        29 July 2015 19: 58
                        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                        The USSR, and I remember, and prices, and shortages, and bureaucracy, and the best army in the world with an overwhelmingly educated population.

                        If so smart ((overwhelmingly educated), what were so poor? (Prices and scarcity)
                        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                        Regarding the economy. Did I write that I am an economist?

                        You could not write it, it’s clear that no
                        I’m the same, but it doesn’t stop me from understanding some things in some way
                        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                        Just chatting together. I write only about what is visible on the surface to everyone. You do not have to be an economist for this.

                        In order to understand that this is superficial and (I do not want to offend - stupid) - you don’t need to be the same, sorry again
                        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                        In the USA, in addition to power and gangster scenarios, the limit of effective actions has been exhausted.

                        So you are also a political scientist?
                        Let's start small, if you write - the limit of effective actions has been exhausted - name a couple of - well, what is already exhausted
                        In order not to hide behind, so, with beautiful phrases - let's essentially
                        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                        ISIS, illegal sanctions against Russia and pressure on the EU

                        And about it, especially about it - it’s not legal. in terms of whose law?
                        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                        America is no longer a cake.

                        Was she him?
                      6. -5
                        29 July 2015 19: 37
                        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                        Oil prices are guaranteed to return and even rise above your cherished $ 150 per barrel

                        Mandatory. The question is when? It seems very soon. Well, if only a big mess begins in the Middle East, such as the Saudis officially go open against Iran, and since they have no land border, they will clash in Iraq and trample the oil fields with tanks. But if someone thinks that NATO and Uncle Sam personally will stay away, then cool down - this will not happen, and Iran will last a few days against NATO, a maximum of a week. And after that, oil will quickly return to normal, as after the first war in the Gulf.
                      7. +4
                        29 July 2015 20: 00
                        Quote: Nagan
                        Mandatory. The question is when?


                        Do you care when? In the Middle East, it was not the Sauds who started the war, but the country you swore. Your uncle Sam just really counts on a war with poorly armed and organized Arabs. The USA is an aggressor state. Saudis and Israel simply have no where to rock the boat. But I have a better opinion of Israel than of the Saudis. Israel will get out, and the Saudas will get into such an ass from which they can no longer be poked out. In addition to the United States, all US satellites from the EU will send their contingents to the Middle East. In the EU, it’s not easy now, and everyone wants to grab a piece from the pie.

                        Karoch, Nagan, go read your tearful tales of L.O.A.M. You are not able to tell me anything interesting. Minus laughing
                      8. -3
                        29 July 2015 20: 14
                        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                        Do you care when? In the Middle East, it was not the Sauds who started the war, but the country you swore.

                        And oil prices are falling, it seems that neither those you need are fighting
                        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                        Your uncle Sam is really counting on a war with poorly armed and organized Arabs.

                        So there the United States has long had no one to fight, all the monarchies of the gulf have long been in a pose and with petroleum jelly (although some without),
                        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                        USA is an aggressor state

                        Even if yes, the only thing they can offer you is to wipe the tears from your handkerchief, and you can snot

                        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                        . Saudis and Israel just have no where to rock the boat

                        Indeed, we can’t go to Switzerland, they say, they’re calling to Crimea laughing maybe go? laughing
                        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                        Israel will get out, and the Saudas will get into such an ass from which they can no longer be poked out.

                        You should be in such an ass (like Saudis) laughing
                        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                        In addition to the United States, all US satellites from the EU will send their contingents to the Middle East. In the EU, it’s not easy now, and everyone wants to grab a piece from the pie.

                        All flags will be visiting us. good
                        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                        go read your tearful tales of L.O.H.A.M. You are not able to tell me anything interesting.

                        That is, you are not even lh.h. laughing
                      9. +2
                        29 July 2015 21: 06
                        atalefYou can’t be so aggressive. Your liver suffers from this. I am not blocking Israel and I do not wish anyone war. In Israel, there are enough of their gopniks and therefore, 360 days a year, Israel fights with its neighbors as long as it exists. And this war will never end in such a move. But, against the backdrop of archaic semi-despotic Saudi monarchies, Israel looks like a developed state. I do not aspire to live in Saudi Arabia, for me life without rights, even against the background of other people's wealth, is not at all attractive.
                      10. -8
                        29 July 2015 20: 29
                        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                        Karoch, Nagan, go read your tearful tales of L.O.A.M.
                        So this is exactly what I’m doing, I tried to set your brains on you, but alas, it didn’t work out - either curves, or not enough.

                        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                        Me you not able to tell anything interesting.
                        You and I kind of didn’t drink on the Brudershaft, and judging by your tone, this will not happen, with people like you No. negative basically do not use. But with Atalef I would use it on occasion.

                        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                        Minus
                        Prove it. Or do you have moderator access? So I can’t see who ousted me, although I guess that you couldn’t do without you. But you can’t get the hunch.
                      11. +3
                        29 July 2015 20: 37
                        Quote: Nagan
                        But with Atalef I would use it on occasion.

                        Well, this will not be a problem, although the time difference, but nothing drinks
                        Skin Skype and PM hi
                      12. +1
                        29 July 2015 20: 50
                        Quote: Nagan
                        So this is exactly what I’m doing, I tried to set your brains on you, but alas, it didn’t work out - either curves, or not enough.


                        And I say that you are tearing your fifth point in vain laughing I still won’t appreciate how you want. You’ll tear it, and then the doctors are tormented to stitch so that the cocoa is right wink
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                5. +1
                  29 July 2015 20: 59
                  Quote: atalef
                  How is gold different from any other metal?
                  And how is this paper different?
              3. +1
                30 July 2015 02: 50
                No, they tell everyone in the world that
                while they themselves have the largest gold reserves in the world in their vaults.

                Nevertheless, the Germans, whose gold was stored in the USA in custody, were not allowed to inspect this gold. So they said - b .. I will, it lies with me, and you are waiting! But Germany wasn’t even shown ...
            2. -3
              29 July 2015 19: 43
              Quote: Altona
              Now they even buy jewelry gold, which was not observed in jewelry stores before ... Now, please, old jewelry is immediately bought right in the store ...
              They were surprised - as long as I was in America, it was so much here, every day of advertising on TV of different jewelry stores, and in each "we buy gold", but it obviously did not start with my arrival.
              They bought up - not a question, a question - how much.
          2. +5
            29 July 2015 14: 23
            As a result, today Russia has the sixth largest noble metal reserves in the world, second only to the United States, Germany, Italy, France and China.
            I think Germany is superfluous on this list, due to the declarative nature of its gold reserve and its physical absence. It was not in vain that Merkelsha was not even allowed to look at him.
      2. +6
        29 July 2015 13: 17
        Quote: Vladimir57
        Putin isn’t so stupid
        He is also an "oak" character!
        If someone wants to harm him,
        He knows how to finish off the "goat"!
    2. -1
      29 July 2015 09: 11
      Quote: ImPerts
      And I have repeatedly heard that in the United States dollars that are brought from abroad and with which visitors are paid are immediately singled out and there is no progress within the United States, that this is different money. This allows you to manipulate volumes in the world and print into the void, namely by inflating an external financial bubble throughout the world.
      If anyone is in the know, enlighten.

      This is impossible: there are orders of magnitude less real paper money than virtual money - which exist only as numbers in your personal bank account. All cards are international and accepted in the USA, no modern person will go to the USA with a wad of cash - this is absurd. And the Fed will certainly not hunt that "Mexican kid" at the gas station that you paid in cash to.

      But all that I said - applies only to private money. Therefore, when viewed globally, perhaps these rumors have their own reasons, but they are most likely related to interethnic settlements, settlements of transnational corporations and, possibly, very large businesses.
      1. +2
        29 July 2015 09: 53
        Quote: Gambit
        This is impossible: real paper money is orders of magnitude smaller

        This is the reason for my interest.
        The conversation was about cash.
        Like, a saleswoman in a supermarket took a bill and put it in a separate pile. I read it. In notes about our compatriots living in the USA.
        A friend of a friend who lived in Hawaii told him about the same thing.
        Therefore, it is interesting.
        1. +4
          29 July 2015 10: 40
          At one time, Mavrodi issued his tickets with and without a hole, everything repeats. In general, if you think about it, they will carry out ISIS sabotage and defeat computer centers of cashless payments and cashless payments will hang for at least a month. How many times cash bucks will be more expensive than cashless. Nice scam for the oligarchs.
        2. 0
          29 July 2015 17: 49
          Quote: ImPerts
          And I heard it repeatedly
          But did not see.

          immediately isolate
          How - never specified.

          Quote: ImPerts
          In notes about our compatriots living in the USA.
          Where the "external" cash from compatriots living in the USA comes from is also never specified.

          A friend of a friend who lived in Hawaii told him about the same
          OBS News Agency laughing

          Most bills located outside the United States are old-style and often with defects from long-term use - that's what they put off.
          1. 0
            30 July 2015 06: 33
            Quote: Uncle Joe
            But did not see.

            Not. I have never been to the USA.
            Quote: Uncle Joe
            How - never specified.

            To be clarified. They are put in a separate pile.
            Quote: Uncle Joe
            Where the "external" cash from compatriots living in the USA comes from is also never specified.

            When they come there, they don’t go to the markets with rubles. Changed in Russia.
            Quote: Uncle Joe
            OBS News Agency

            Maybe. Therefore, I wanted to clarify with those who live there or went on any business trips and other things, for example, I studied.
            Quote: Uncle Joe
            Most bills located outside the United States are old-style and often with defects from long-term use - that's what they put off.

            As our press bragged about when changing bills, in Russia they started circulation earlier than in the USA.
            Maybe this led to the emergence of such a situation. But I'm still interested.
    3. +4
      29 July 2015 12: 56
      Quote: ImPerts
      inflating an external financial bubble around the world.

      Yes, actually the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, came up with a wonderful machine of their own enrichment, which allows them to rob the whole world, well, for example, our commerce is taken at 8-10% while gold and foreign exchange reserves are given at 2-3%, and if not mistaken, we lose 30-40 yards . but in another way, the Central Bank will not allow it, and it does not obey the state, the Fed, how can this be broken? it’s necessary to change the constitution, accelerate the development of the BRICS SCO Bank, and sell resources for national currency. Well, economists go literate chew, and I'm a simple village peasant. I plow the field, mow the hay, and put it on all candy wrappers when I gurgle my currency in a glass. in general, when the dolter was tied to gold, the price of bread was stable, but in general BREAD was the whole thing, and you have to dance from it. rice is just a side dish, so the yuan does not roll.
    4. +3
      29 July 2015 12: 58
      And this is stated by a representative of a country that stores its gold reserves in the States, which refused to the Germans not only to audit their gold reserves, but also to transfer it back to Germany.
  2. +21
    29 July 2015 06: 35
    The meaning of all these clearly staged publications comes down to almost one general thesis: “the Russian president made a strategic miscalculation, betting on a significant increase in the share of gold in the gold and foreign exchange reserves of the Russian Federation, since the price of the noble metal falls and will continue to fall”
    Well, well ... gold, it's MATERIAL. And as the price of it fell, so it will rise. But the "soap bubble" of dollars to infinity "inflate" the same will not work, it will burst anyway. And it would be better sooner rather than later - there will be less "destruction"
    1. +21
      29 July 2015 07: 35
      Quote: svp67
      And as the price of it fell, so it will rise.

      The Germans are great, they know how to count as they think. But I will give a completely different example: in the mid-90s, 1 g of gold was worth around 9-10 frog skins. Now, even if we proceed from the rate of 1050 killed raccoons per troy ounce, it is in the region of 30 bucks. Even after adjusting for inflation, gold has risen in price at least twice in 20 years. During this period, oil jumped back and forth with large rolls. So let the Germans make a choice that it is better to have "cheap" gold, which is steadily rising in price with small rolls, or cut "expensive" paper, which at any moment may turn out to be rubbish at the whim of an overseas uncle.
      1. +11
        29 July 2015 08: 23
        He was a pioneer. Hand over waste paper.

        Ready to put on a red tie again and come to the uncles from the Fed. For waste paper.
        1. +3
          29 July 2015 09: 00
          good well done join
    2. +7
      29 July 2015 07: 47
      The Russian President did the right thing strategically. Buy when it falls, sell when it grows. Simply put, when the price of gold falls it is more profitable to buy it, that is, less money will be spent on the purchase. In any case, the price of gold will climb up, since the amount of paper money in the world is not decreasing.
      And the idea that money has depreciated over the past decades is very true. Also the same example, at the end of the 90's, working in Sberbank, Toyota LC was pledged at the price of 32000 dollars, that was the price of these cars.
      And yet - in fact, the depreciation of money, that is, inflation, was the cause of the global crisis of 2008, when it all started with the collapse of mortgage monsters. At some point, people simply could not pay for housing, since prices for other goods and services increased, but there wasn’t, and, accordingly, the amount of money left to pay the mortgage decreased sharply. And the scribe came ...
    3. -20
      29 July 2015 08: 20
      Quote: svp67
      Well, well ... gold, it is MATERIAL

      Of course financially, therefore, has a price.
      Quote: svp67
      And as the price of it fell, so it will rise.

      In returning to the price. But whatever you say, you will have to return to it all the same,
      what rises is not a fact, but if it rises, then in any case it does not sweep away financial losses
      Quote: svp67
      But the "soap bubble" of dollars to infinity "inflate" the same will not work, it will burst anyway

      While the bubble burst with gold (and the same oil) - and the dollar - only strengthens
      It’s not clear how people react and live in some kind of parallel world, as if each was measured out for 400 years.
      Look at the facts, then it will be easier to assess the reality
      - gold is falling and will continue to fall (to some minimum), but this does not mean that it will return to its previous performance, about oil, I think everyone’s doubts have already vanished
      So, just for fun,
      I said a year ago that you can’t invest in gold - this is a loss, that oil will fall and you need to invest in the dollar (not the euro), because the ruble will collapse behind it. That the apartments will become cheaper by 20-50% by the summer.
      Ask Krasmash and Romanov - someone else lost 10 bucks., In short
      Do not wait for the explosion of the * dollar * bubble - it is absent today and so far no prerequisites are expected for this. The euro will fall by another 3-5% against the dollar by the fall, the ruble (by the fall) will fall another 8-15%
      Retirement age will increase next year, the budget for the next year will cut another percent by 6-9%
      Do you bet?
      1. +9
        29 July 2015 08: 33
        Hello, Alexander! After reading your comment, I got the impression that everything bad that happens in Russia pleases you ?! I'd like to make a mistake, but your "wanging" leaves no doubt about it.
        1. -5
          29 July 2015 10: 18
          Quote: B.T.W.
          Hello, Alexander! After reading your comment, I got the impression that everything bad that happens in Russia pleases you ?! I'd like to make a mistake, but your "wanging" leaves no doubt about it.

          You are deeply mistaken, not happy
          My comment is simply a statement of fact and some confirmation of my comments a year ago - gold will fall, the dollar will grow.
          That's all.
          Investing in gold (which Russia made a year ago and above) was clearly erroneous. Another thing now, although the same question, maybe, I think the lower limit of gold will be in the region of 850-900, but definitely not a year ago.
          1. +7
            29 July 2015 10: 31
            Quote: atalef
            Investing in gold (which Russia made a year ago and above) was clearly erroneous.


            If “investing in gold is wrong,” why are “friends and partners” so nervous about increasing the gold reserves of Russia and China ?? And not for an attempt to replace the dollar with a gold dinar "paid" Gaddafi ?!
            1. +4
              29 July 2015 13: 30
              Quote: B.T.W.
              Quote: atalef
              Investing in gold (which Russia made a year ago and above) was clearly erroneous.


              If “investing in gold is wrong,” why are “friends and partners” so nervous about increasing the gold reserves of Russia and China ?? And not for an attempt to replace the dollar with a gold dinar "paid" Gaddafi ?!


              I.V. Stalin: “If our enemies scold us, then we are doing everything right”
          2. +1
            29 July 2015 10: 50
            Quote: atalef
            Investing in gold (which Russia made a year ago and above) was clearly erroneous. Another thing now, although the same question, maybe, I think the lower limit of gold will be in the region of 850-900, but definitely not a year ago.

            All this is no longer important. The Third World will throw the entire old economy into the dustbin of history.
        2. +2
          29 July 2015 13: 36
          Quote: B.T.W.
          After reading your comment, did you get the impression that everything bad that happens in Russia makes you happy?

          Such as he always pleases when our country is ill their dream is that Russia would not exist at all in the world.

          Notice among the plundered USSR / Russia - there is not one Palestinian, Chukchi, Chinese, or even Persian lol
      2. +6
        29 July 2015 09: 12
        But what, in Israel they can neither sleep nor eat, looking at the problems of Russia? Don't you have your own problems? Nothing, soon ISIS will add. I think this year already. Do you bet?
        1. -1
          29 July 2015 10: 21
          Quote: Penetrator
          But what, in Israel they can neither sleep nor eat, looking at the problems of Russia?

          Actually, I’m all goofing, I gave my comment on the article and its understanding
          But it is up to you to decide whether this is a problem or not.
          Quote: Penetrator
          Don't you have your own problems? Nothing, ISIS coming soon

          These problems are in no way related to the price of gold, and returning to your question -
          Quote: Penetrator
          But what, in Israel they can neither sleep nor eat, looking at the problems of Russia?

          Does Russia want problems for Israel?
          1. +4
            29 July 2015 11: 17
            Does Russia want problems for Israel?

            Yes, Yahweh is with you! Live long and rich! Only, personally, I do not care about the problems of the State of Israel from the word "absolutely". Therefore, I am surprised that a citizen of another (and distant) country is so concerned about the difficulties of Russia.
            1. -1
              29 July 2015 13: 43
              Quote: Penetrator
              Therefore, I am surprised that a citizen of another (and distant) country is so concerned about the difficulties of Russia.

              Well, actually there is a discussion of the article, I certainly understand that many are waiting for the type
              This is a cunning plan, and that's what it's intended. the dollar will die yesterday.
              As I understand it, there are still many tricky plans in stock. here is another one of them
              .

              Gazprom spent 2,4 trillion rubles on unclaimed projects. In 2015, the company was preparing to produce more than 615 billion cubic meters of gas, and will produce a third less, 414 billion cubic meters, writes Vedomosti, also referring to the forecast of the Ministry of Economic Development.

              The concern began increasing gas production in 2002, when the company was headed by Alexey Miller. And the deputy chairman of the board, Alexander Medvedev, previously predicted that gas consumption in Europe would grow and by 2020 would exceed 600 billion cubic meters. m, due to a fall in its own production, Europe will have to additionally import 145 billion cubic meters. m

              There were mistakes in assessing demand, says Valery Nesterov, an analyst at Sberbank CIB: it was difficult to predict that so many negative factors would converge at the same time. This is a change in the rules of regulation of the European market, and the emergence of new suppliers, and the shale revolution in the United States, and competition with independent producers in Russia, and the aggravation of the political situation.
              .

              by the way an interesting article
              15 lards compared to this - really a penny
              http://www.newsru.com/finance/29jul2015/gazpromfall.html
              1. +3
                29 July 2015 17: 39
                Well, actually there is a discussion of the article, I certainly understand that many are waiting for the type
                This is a cunning plan, and that's what it's intended. the dollar will die yesterday

                Yes, no one expects anything, and even more so your opinion and advice. Discuss actions his Ministry of Finance and Central Bank in Israeli forums and count their shekels. Why are you worried about us?
                1. +3
                  29 July 2015 17: 46
                  Quote: Penetrator
                  Discuss the actions of your Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank in Israeli forums and count your shekels. Why are you worried about us?

                  They have such a habit that they like to count money in someone else's pocket.
      3. +12
        29 July 2015 09: 24
        What nonsense? Over 10 years, gold has risen 4 times against the dollar.
        If you are engaged in speculation and your investments do not last long, then yes, gold is unprofitable.
        But if you save for old age or for children, then there is nothing better than gold.
        If we compare the price of gold with the price of goods, then even for centuries it remains unchanged, because despite the change in price, the real value of gold does not change, it is money for which gold is sold that depreciate. And the depreciation rate is such that even buying gold in the form of products, and then donating it as scrap, but not after a year, but after 5, will already be profitable.
        Since the country does not live for years, but for decades, it is the right decision to increase the share of gold in the country's gold reserves.
        1. +1
          29 July 2015 12: 47
          Eh guys you completely forgot to create a pool of currencies from the BRICS countries. And next in line is the multi-currency that was talked about in the distant "2009 and will support gold and other precious metals. But this is still a prospect."
        2. -1
          29 July 2015 15: 10
          Quote: Functional
          What nonsense? Over 10 years, gold has risen 4 times against the dollar

          At absolute prices or adjusted for inflation, and in general, excuse me - your comment is simply nothing
          Of course, I understand that the people from the word GOLD blow a little, although gold has the same value.
          in India, not so long ago opened a storehouse in one of the temples. there (in my 600 years) was stored under a hundred tons of gold, precious stones and various valuable garbage
          So here is a very simple question, what did it give to this particular Raja and his descendants ---
          IF THROUGHOUT ETERNAL CENTURIES IT WAS DECLINED?
          It's nothing.
          Gold reserves have a value and are in circulation by placing in securities
          Gold reserves in gold, the same takes part in it, it has a value and this ensures the stability of the local currency.
          Neither kilograms, nor grams, but cost.
          100 years ago, aluminum was also more valuable than gold, now it is one of the cheapest metals. with gold, of course, this will not happen - but fluctuations in its price are a reality. and along with price fluctuations, value changes.
          Gold is held to ensure the stability of the currency i.e. selling part of gold in difficult times. cash is obtained for the introduction into circulation.
          so back to our sheep and to where we started
          Now in Russia are difficult times, and so in the light of buying gold at a price much higher than today. gold is practically withdrawn from the operational part of the gold and foreign currency reserves of shopping mall - to sell it is definitely to lose money.
          Here's the article about it.
      4. +2
        29 July 2015 12: 09
        You, dear comrade, look a little wider at gold. For you, this is the subject of purchase and sale. And now look at it from the side of the state. Gold, as is known, but not to everyone, is no less strategic raw material than uranium or palladium. in electronics, in hundreds of tons, it is used in the nuclear industry, space and many others, and in very large quantities. It is a pity that EGE is foggy. Therefore, buying gold as a strategic raw material is right, necessary and responsible. And if for speculation, then wrecking.
      5. +4
        29 July 2015 12: 30
        Respected by your lips says the noble ser KUDRIN. There is one amendment while the money was there with the owner, I was losing weight about the stash regardless of the dollar exchange rate. the world. "2008 countries made decisions that were strictly followed. And the United States, having printed more dollars, figured out at home. Someone wasn’t saving someone. And this very company from twenty countries, bearing hardships, kept the dollar in a more or less ratio of the dollar to its currencies. there was no money in the state itself. How many trillions were printed. Where did this money scattered around the world. You forgot to mention one very nasty thing. Countries could not print their currency if there was no backing of the dollar. There was no inflation in the US as well as in the EU and England. This thing is for others. We could not even use the stash until we paid off the debts of the state ahead of schedule. Only after this great financier was dismissed, and two years later, the chairman of the Central Bank. Only then began work on the destruction of those very schemers who proudly call themselves bankers. There are too many holes in the financial institutions of the state, and there is still a black list of top specialists and banks and other structures for which the path to finance will be closed for a long time. As in China. It's time to adopt what gives a return and not look for some muddy program that liberals are pushing. They really failed too many good programs, reducing everything to personal enrichment to the detriment of business.
      6. +2
        29 July 2015 13: 26
        Quote: atalef
        It’s not clear how people react and live in a parallel world, as if each is measured out for 400 years .


        This is the main difference between a Jew and a Russian. Jew lives for yourself beloved (one day), and Russian for the sake of their future children and grandchildren.
        1. -2
          29 July 2015 13: 35
          Quote: Mark Alekseevich
          This is the main difference between a Jew and a Russian. A Jew lives for himself beloved (one day), and a Russian for the sake of his future children and grandchildren.

          It's a deal then .-))))
          I am sure your grandchildren will definitely live under communism.
          Good luck!
        2. +1
          29 July 2015 13: 35
          Quote: Mark Alekseevich
          This is the main difference between a Jew and a Russian. A Jew lives for himself beloved (one day), and a Russian for the sake of his future children and grandchildren.

          It's a deal then .-))))
          I am sure your grandchildren will definitely live under communism.
          Good luck!
      7. +2
        29 July 2015 17: 46
        Quote: atalef
        Do not wait for the explosion of the * dollar * bubble - it is absent today and so far no prerequisites are expected for this.

        There is a bubble, just look at the US domestic debt. So that is not necessary.
        Quote: atalef
        Do you bet?

        I'm not that passionate, so I don't accept this challenge. And at the expense of the negative in the EU and in Russia, well, it's not for nothing that the US is trying so hard and bending everyone down. Now the world hegemon is undoubtedly the USA, but for another year, five years they will "hegemonize", but they will be thrown off this pedestal anyway, and honestly, I don't care who does it now, we, China, Guinea-Bessau ... But the laws of history unforgiving
        1. -2
          29 July 2015 18: 18
          Quote: svp67
          We, China, Guinea-Bessau.
          What company!!! I'm crying
          1. +2
            29 July 2015 19: 03
            Quote: Nagan
            What company!!! I'm crying

            Wipe away the tears. Now why cry, if you look where you are coming from, your current president, I would advise you to cry earlier, at the time the election results are announced. wink
            1. +1
              30 July 2015 01: 53
              Quote: svp67
              I would advise you to cry earlier, at the time of the announcement of the election results.
              At that moment I did not cry, but spoke using profanity in his address, as well as in the address of those who voted for him. Perhaps a few in elevated tones, but I don’t remember this detail.
  3. +17
    29 July 2015 06: 38
    Many people like to count other people's money, we too, so ask: where is your gold reserve, gentlemen?
    1. +3
      29 July 2015 07: 30
      That's exactly what the article is designed to calm the burghers "like no one will ever return the guys, but this is supposedly not necessary."
    2. -18
      29 July 2015 08: 34
      Quote: Andrea
      Many people like to count other people's money, we too, so ask: where is your gold reserve, gentlemen?

      Come to the store (as a simple example) with gold. and try to buy something on it
      You’ll probably get the answer-- present the money!
      1. +5
        29 July 2015 09: 47
        Distort sir!
  4. +12
    29 July 2015 06: 38
    Reading experts from Germany, USA, etc. one can understand what a grandiose campaign was organized by the "partners" for the discreditation of V.V. And it even makes Putin happy, since these steps are criticized, it means the country is on the right path, if only the government should be cleaned and the thought reduced - this is what kind of savings will come out and replenishment of the budget.
    1. -10
      29 July 2015 08: 39
      Quote: ArhipenkoAndrey
      Reading experts from Germany, USA, etc. one can understand what a grandiose campaign was organized by the "partners" for the discreditation of V.V. Putin and it even pleases

      It's actually math.
      Quote: ArhipenkoAndrey
      and it even pleases

      What pleases? that 15 lard dust flew away?
      the most interesting thing is that everyone at the household level understands this and is happy to buy the goods cheaper or at a sale. paying less for the same thing
      Immediately, when it’s real. the country is at a loss of 15 lards, without the ability to even sell gold (if you need cash - and you need it) - they fight in ecstasy with mantras - everything is fine !!
      Some kind of parallel universe
      Quote: ArhipenkoAndrey
      if these steps are criticized, then the country is on the right track

      cool position of the authorities - they criticize me - then everything is OK
      There is some difference between criticism, fair criticism and outright laughter
      so in the case of gold - they just laugh.
      1. +1
        29 July 2015 11: 48
        Ehehe ... let's laugh together at the states, China, France and, especially, at Germany.
      2. +1
        29 July 2015 12: 21
        You have a question. Why did the United States show the Germans big and fat on their request to return gold to Germany?
        1. 0
          29 July 2015 13: 35
          You have a question. Why did the USA show the Germans big and fat on their request to return gold to Germany? Last year, the German federal bank returned another batch of gold from the USA, 120 tons. Until 2020, 300 tons will be returned annually from New York, all 374 tons from Paris. After 2020, 1200 tons will remain in New York and 445 tons in Lodon.
      3. +2
        29 July 2015 12: 56
        Dear Mr. Laughing, the one who laughs last. On the field where one single green buck reigned, a new rival appears to be still weak, but give time he will withstand the blows that are delivered to each country that defied the all-powerful dollar. Here you did not even see that all the BRICS Central Banks replenish stocks of precious metals. We must look wider.
      4. +4
        29 July 2015 12: 59
        Quote: atalef
        What pleases? that 15 lard dust flew away? the most interesting thing is that everyone at the household level understands this and is happy to buy the goods cheaper or at a sale. paying less for the same thing Right there when it’s real. the country is at a loss of 15 lards, without the possibility of even selling gold (if you need cash - and you need it) - they fight in ecstasy with mantras - everything seems fine !! A parallel universe is somehow

        Well, let's just say, the attention of the "public" managed to sharpen on the fact that Russia lost 15 lard - the liberals clap their hands, someone fell into despondency, someone who does not have a single gram of despicable metal went out onto the balcony, smoked a cigarette and went to deal with everyday difficulties.
        And if you look at this very problem?)))
        Officially, world gold reserves amount to 31949,0 tons, of which the United States is 8133,5 tons, the Eurozone is 10709,9, which in total is 59% of the world reserve. And the Russian Federation has only 1275,2 tons, or only 4% of the world's reserves.

        Should I ask who lost the most from the fall in the price of gold?
        I wonder why the Germans were so preoccupied with only Russian gold?

        Germany wanted to get its gold, which is stored in the USA, they simply sent them in three cheerful letters, without even allowing them to compare the numbers on the bars. Should they worry about us?
    2. +3
      29 July 2015 12: 19
      Putin is out of business here. An ordinary ruler would do the same. Here, from the United States, an attempt is seen on the "economic foundations" created by them in the form of exchange speculations, the throwing of surplus money abroad (while there is no internal inflation), deprivation of economic, and then and the political sovereignty of other countries, the collapse of their currencies, and much more, all this is written in normal textbooks on economics, and not in liberoids.
  5. +15
    29 July 2015 06: 49
    today Russia has the sixth largest noble metal reserves in the world, second only to the United States, Germany, Italy, France and China.

    Some strange contradiction between Messrs. Nando Sommerfeld and Holger Zshepits. According to their calculations, Russia is inferior to Germany in terms of gold and at the same time they consider it an error to increase Russia's gold reserves. Then, logically, Germany also loses more than a dozen billion. Strange girls dance.
    1. -10
      29 July 2015 08: 40
      Quote: rotmistr60
      According to their calculations, Russia is inferior to Germany in terms of gold and at the same time they consider it an error to increase Russia's gold reserves. Then, logically, Germany also loses more than a dozen billion. Strange girls dance.

      Strange conclusion?
      Germany does not buy gold.
      1. +4
        29 July 2015 08: 56
        Well, yes, it apparently produces it, or grows it in greenhouses.
      2. +3
        29 July 2015 09: 17
        Germany does not buy gold.

        And what for them to buy it? It will still be in Fort Knox. And from there there is no issue! So the Hans are operated with paper gold.
      3. +2
        29 July 2015 10: 35
        Germany does not buy gold.

        It grows on their beer hops. It remains only to collect.
  6. +19
    29 July 2015 06: 50
    I invite German journalists to recount their stocks in gold. It is noteworthy that Germany, having the second gold reserve in the world after the USA with a volume of 3383 tons, in reality does not have them. The lion's share of gold is in the United States and Germany simply did not give it away. laughing But even virtually having so much gold, Germany lost 3 times more than Russia at its fall (what did the authors not care about the losses of their own side?). Yes, because they are clowns, not journalists. They work out the order. So they write pseudo-economic nonsense.
    1. +6
      29 July 2015 07: 38
      Why should the Germans take care of their losses? How can one lose what is not? Americans will never give them gold. There recently, the Germans wanted to look at their gold and it all ended with another farce.
      They can start saving up for a new one.
      1. -1
        29 July 2015 13: 38
        Why should the Germans take care of their losses? How can one lose what is not? Americans will never give them gold. There recently, the Germans wanted to look at their gold and it all ended with another farce.
        They can start saving up for a new one.
        Last year, the German federal bank returned another batch of gold, 120 tons, from the United States. Until 2020, 300 tons will be returned annually from New York, all 374 tons from Paris. After 2020, 1200 tons will remain in New York and 445 in Lodon.
        1. 0
          30 July 2015 16: 21
          And why give out an hour for a teaspoon? The Germans gave everything at once, and return as the staff want. Is it weak to immediately request everything? And in normal demand, and not plaintively whine with outstretched hand?
        2. 0
          30 July 2015 16: 21
          And why give out an hour for a teaspoon? The Germans gave everything at once, and return as the staff want. Is it weak to immediately request everything? And in normal demand, and not plaintively whine with outstretched hand?
    2. +4
      29 July 2015 09: 06
      The whole reason for stuffing such articles is that Germany was left with a virtual gold reserve. The Bundestag commission was not even allowed to reach the stacks in Fort Knox. So there is nothing to blame for the mirror. There is constant demand for gold in our high-tech time. In each device, in each it’s impossible to do without gold conductors. It seems that the content of precious metals in the same cell phone is meager, but if you calculate the total amount? It turns out that gold is not only a currency reserve, but also technological. It is clear that science does not stand still, synthetic ones appear materials, but their prime cost is sky-high at the moment, so in the coming years, a hundred in electronics there is no real replacement for precious metals.
  7. +8
    29 July 2015 06: 52
    Gold, platinum, palladium, silver, not only investment metals, but industry will not do without them. Well, I would not call fools, the US and the EU, for their candy wrappers, they live best for their candy wrappers, and we use oil and coal for their paper mined in Siberia and at the same time we live much worse, these are the realities.
  8. +7
    29 July 2015 06: 52
    The meaning of all these clearly staged publications comes down to almost one general thesis: “the Russian president made a strategic miscalculation,


    If in the West they cry about it, then PUTIN did the right thing ... the same applies to the Chinese accumulating their gold reserves ..... keep it up ... heh heh doesn’t always dominate the dollar on the planet EARTH.
  9. +10
    29 July 2015 07: 15
    Finding Germany in the top five countries in terms of gold reserves is generally doubtful. And this, first of all, should concern German journalists. I am afraid that the stocks placed in America have long been capitalized by "partners" and it is not possible to get them back. And annoying requests will be rudely rejected.
  10. +4
    29 July 2015 07: 25
    the Yankees showed the Fritz dule, so they whine
  11. +4
    29 July 2015 07: 35
    Yeah, the Germans would be puzzled about their little gold. Although I think that everyone there has long understood ...
  12. +4
    29 July 2015 07: 38
    ... The Germans are stupidly whining about our gold reserves, we don’t have ours, somewhere in the USA I’ve gotten lost .. It's like in life, when you don’t have your own, you think someone else’s ..
  13. +2
    29 July 2015 08: 04
    Has it begun? ”They whined from under the bench. There is no way to count your own .... they do not let you in, they say look from 30 meters through the lattice door. It is necessary to send the "smart guys" away. Show yours first ... then we'll talk.
  14. +3
    29 July 2015 08: 07
    Gold in banks is one thing, and how many noble metal is still in the bowels of the Russian land, one can only guess. The guys from Europe are not fools, and therefore they are well aware of this and are furious. Most rare earth metals and stones are in our country, and this is a big plus to what is in banks, and with the smart management and disposal of banking and financial assets, nothing worse than we have already experienced and are not threatening us. It is not in vain that Mendeleev was born precisely in Russia, and not in Germany, so gentlemen Europeans count your candy wrappers, and we will count the straight ones.
  15. +3
    29 July 2015 08: 09
    If our enemies criticize us, then we are doing everything right. (c) I.V. Stalin
  16. 0
    29 July 2015 08: 34
    That’s why the USA doesn’t give gold to the Germans why it is so cheap for them, let it lie with us))) And the British gave only the Germans so far they won’t figure out what kind of sample this gold has or copper doesn’t have a sample or is it copper without gold, what is it gold and even the english said it is not gold but consider that we have returned to you. The French of Germany promise to return the gold well, honestly, how it will appear in their proper volume, so they will return everything at once, and in parts why it is trifling, we will return everything only when we ourselves do not know))). This is the real situation with gold in Germany and the whole of Europe laughs at the Germans as they robbed her without returning her gold which she asks to return to her.
  17. 0
    29 July 2015 08: 49
    What do they care about our gold? Let them think about theirs. Boulevardism, such a boulevard. It’s as though, but to imagine that Putin is making mistakes, and Russia is already as if not, and she is again on her knees — this is their dream! Do not wait!
  18. 0
    29 July 2015 08: 50
    and what is the cost of gold in mining?
    1. +1
      29 July 2015 18: 17
      Quote: gozmosZh
      and what is the cost of gold in mining?

      It all depends on the deposit))) Either it's sand, or native placers, and where copper ore with gold content that cannot be extracted without chemical reagents and all this needs to be driven through refineries to remove impurities and cast metal bars 999,9, 700 samples. But in any case - the demand for physical gold exceeds supply. Today there is a lot of virtual gold (paper) which is played depending on the cost of a real ounce of physical gold. Speculators rake out real dollars and rubles on paper (air) gold. In any bank, it is possible to open a depersonalized metal account, even in gold, even in silver, and interestingly, banks trading in paper gold do not insure these deposits, unlike individuals (up to XNUMX thousand rubles).
      Today, the real ounce is worth 1050 tugriks, and paper ginger hangs above 2020 rubles per gram. Mattresses are doing everything possible to transfer gold from the category of assets to the category of goods that can be bought for the dollar and create the illusion of the average man that there is nothing stronger than the dollar. Like a dollar is your everything and even gold. Only in any situation - a ton of gold looks much more attractive and reliable than a ton of paper dollars.
  19. +1
    29 July 2015 08: 52
    the Germans should be kept quiet in a rag, the occupied country holding its gold hz where, apparently, once again licked the owner’s soft spot, smiled guilty, asked to return the gold, but got rudely in the ass, it was once again insulting, that’s the article about that gold is no longer gold, but simple unnecessary.
  20. +1
    29 July 2015 08: 56
    Once scolded, then we are doing everything right!
  21. +6
    29 July 2015 08: 57
    The ruling circles of Ukraine turned out to be the wisest (if you adhere to the logic of Germany). All gold wasted on time, without waiting until it falls in value.
    1. +2
      29 July 2015 09: 24
      Not "squandered", but COLLECTED !!!!!
  22. +1
    29 July 2015 09: 10
    - Count your money!
    - The burgers are bad!
  23. +1
    29 July 2015 09: 22
    Here argue, do not argue, but still Time,
    Which is flying fast
    Show: Who carried out a smarter burden,
    Who and what will "light up" there!
  24. +1
    29 July 2015 09: 49
    The Germans are just terribly insulting, because their gold reserves are stored in the USA. They wanted to return gold back to German in 2013 - the Fed replied to the Germans that this was possible only by 2020. And then the Americans completely refused the German side even to inspect the transferred gold reserves. In this situation, the Teutons are simply jealous that someone has a gold reserve growing.
  25. +2
    29 July 2015 09: 56
    Our gold is what we want to do, and the Germans are envious of seeing.
  26. +1
    29 July 2015 09: 58
    You guys do not worry so much. Still change.
  27. +2
    29 July 2015 10: 42
    Zshepits.
    Hemmed pshek. Anyway Yes ... An economist with such a surname must be shot in childhood. Yes
  28. +1
    29 July 2015 10: 42
    All this German nonsense can be answered with a simple answer from the same course of school algebra and the beginning of analysis. Let's take a line of goods in 1998 prices and translate these prices into gold, how much gold had to be paid for a unit of the same product. And how much is now in bucks and gold. We look at the results and are surprised ... Putin is not alone in choosing gold as an anchor of resources, this is stated in the article. Erdogan, President of China and Putin - these people are of normal potency in the political arena, unlike Merkel, Obama and Hollande ... I’m silent about the fact that gold by its very existence underestimates the pseudo-currencies of the euro and the dollar and how much money the West takes to a virtual decline in the value of gold, its real value, according to economists, is off scale. We will not forget the system of settlements between the countries according to Lendlis in the case of a large third inter-party agreement. Gold fights against pseudo-currencies, because whatever the US international agencies say about their worthless waffle currency, gold is a real resource. And no matter how low its true value is, in real life it costs more than gold - such taftology comes out. There is an interesting rating, I forgot how it is called, where the real value of resources is estimated in the event of a collapse of the dollar and euro economy - and so there the number of bucks needed to buy metals of the great war, for example nickel, gold, platinum and aluminum, silver - is completely incomparable with virtual prices ... In other words, for a troy ounce and an aircraft carrier with bucks on pallets is not enough))
  29. +2
    29 July 2015 10: 43
    German journalists convict Vladimir Putin of embezzling foreign exchange resources

    And Putin, in response, convicted the Germans of excessive credulity in matters of storing gold reserves. Yes
    1. +2
      29 July 2015 10: 53
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      And Putin, in response, convicted the Germans of excessive credulity in matters of storing gold reserves.

      Well, why are you mocking, the Germans sincerely believe that, firstly, their gold is second, and secondly, it is still kept in real life in the USA. But you are right in their naive credulity laughing
  30. +2
    29 July 2015 10: 55
    Gold is not the best resource.
    It is necessary to buy machine tools manufacturing in industrialization. Over the two five-year periods, production growth was an average of 400% per cent.
  31. +4
    29 July 2015 11: 32
    Quote: B.T.W.
    Quote: atalef
    Investing in gold (which Russia made a year ago and above) was clearly erroneous.


    If “investing in gold is wrong,” why are “friends and partners” so nervous about increasing the gold reserves of Russia and China ?? And not for an attempt to replace the dollar with a gold dinar "paid" Gaddafi ?!

    Because the lack of attachment to gold allows you to print dollars indefinitely. This is the golden dream of bankers. We need everyone to forget that since the refusal to peg the dollar to gold in the 70s, it has fallen in price by more than 40 times. That from 2000 to 2011 the dollar depreciated almost 8 times from 250 to 1900 dollars per ounce. The point of the game is that in this way Americans devalue their own debts. Since then, the dollar has been growing, but this is the final process, because depreciates the whole game. The main thing is that in gold prices are much more stable than in dollars. For example, the price of oil in the region of 2 grams per barrel has been holding for more than a hundred years.
  32. +3
    29 July 2015 11: 49
    The drain of paper and the purchase of gold by Russia and China hooked them very tightly
    I think an attempt to bring down the Chinese securities market is a response
    The main thing is not to stop and twist their eggs to the end
  33. +1
    29 July 2015 11: 53
    Let’s better follow their Merkel !!!
  34. +1
    29 July 2015 11: 56
    And how much gold is in Germany. IN MOST Geramania, not Germany)
  35. +1
    29 July 2015 12: 00
    Quote: wei
    The drain of paper and the purchase of gold by Russia and China hooked them very tightly
    I think an attempt to bring down the Chinese securities market is a response
    The main thing is not to stop and twist their eggs to the end

    It's not about what hooked. Just a diagram: we print paper and find eccentrics who give material non-renewable resources for it failed. The "eccentrics", in their opinion, decided to throw paper out of the scheme and began to exchange material non-renewable resources for others, also material and also non-renewable. The main thing is that they do not lose their real value over time. And this destroys the entire system of Western domination. You can't buy Manhattan for glass beads. smile
  36. +1
    29 July 2015 12: 04
    I just want to tell the former Nazis (and there is no escape from this, the Germans, the French, the small Britons always fought and were united with Hitler, until he "shod" them) that the Germans, with their wars, plundered many states from that and are on the second or third place in gold reserves, after the United States. Why is Russia now, when funds allow it not to replenish its gold reserves? But no, they did not like the current policy of Russia only because earlier, with the help of the most reasonable Kudrin, we again invested all our free gold and foreign exchange funds in treasury notes or receipts in the USA or the EU. Naturally, we cannot use all the free money. and therefore we need to replenish our egg-box at least to the level of the same Germany.
  37. +1
    29 July 2015 12: 15
    It’s not good to count other people's money.
    Hedgehog it is clear that the current price of gold, etc. artificially lowered. So you have to buy it for cheap. However, a return to the gold standard will be inevitable in the transitional period after the collapse of the green-scammers, until they come up with something. And the prices for it will fly into space. The world’s cardinally no longer becomes gold; reserves can only be depleted.
    So let's go the right way! More beautiful and different gold!

    And let the world bankers strangle themselves in powerless malice !!
  38. +2
    29 July 2015 12: 27
    If in the opinion of "experts" Russia got 15 billion of losses due to the GDP, having 1200,8 tons in reserve. gold, then how much did Obamkin "earn" on American gold? With announced reserves of 8 tons. it turns out 133,66 billion in losses.
    That's where the true champion is! Why did you forget?
    Or do the Germans know that in those vaults where they are not allowed, gold has long been gone? It’s not just because after all, instead of their gold, China returned gold plated tungsten ingots.
  39. +1
    29 July 2015 12: 45
    Gold is gold, that is, metal. Paper she is paper only to go to the toilet.
  40. +1
    29 July 2015 13: 14
    Gold has always been for the whole history of mankind, it will be a measure of wealth, prosperity and stability for a long time and here the author is right, but the wrappers will come to an end, maybe not in a year, but later, but they will come, and I think if it’s good to dig in the bowels then 10 thousand tons would not be a chapel, there would be a desire.
  41. 0
    29 July 2015 13: 27
    Not only Germany
    Quote: rotmistr60
    Some strange contradiction between Messrs. Nando Sommerfeld and Holger Zshepits. According to their calculations, Russia is inferior to Germany in terms of gold and at the same time they consider it an error to increase Russia's gold reserves. Then, logically, Germany also loses more than a dozen billion. Strange girls dance.
  42. +1
    29 July 2015 14: 03
    Germans are simply offended by Putin for sending so much to invest in their currency. hence such articles. if all that the journalists wrote to say briefly, it will turn out: Putin, radish, sell gold, buy euro.
  43. +1
    29 July 2015 15: 52
    The tabloid editions, as always, "delight" with hot news. So, gold will fall, and green American bills will rise in price. Someone else, but I do, prefer the falling price of gold.
  44. +1
    29 July 2015 16: 16
    Here in this matter, I fully support the government, it is better to buy gold than to invest resources in cut paper! Under the tsar, a gold dime was in use, and the whole world, with great pleasure, took it, it contained exactly 10 rubles of gold! So, all these losses, they are conditional, you can certainly buy candy wrappers, but where is the guarantee that tomorrow they will not really become candy wrappers, because they are not provided with anything! And let them buy more gold, maybe the time will come when, again, we will start minting gold rubles! And sell for them. oil and gas. and other goods!
  45. +1
    29 July 2015 16: 59
    I’m certainly not an economist, but it’s probably better to return physical gold to the country for export than electronic dollars and euros. Of course, it is even better to export finished products and import means of production and technology, but this is another topic of discussion.
  46. +1
    29 July 2015 17: 03
    I agree with our President about gold reserves in the form of a gold coin. No, of course, we need dollars and eureka for operational and tactical purposes. But the strategy should not be built on the malignant virtual bubbles of speculative money, but on good old gold and diamonds. Well, to translate the sold oil into industrial and infrastructure assets here, in the territory of our Fatherland ... And everything will be a bunch. Well, let him do nothing, he is abusive to them, panimash ...
  47. +2
    29 July 2015 18: 01
    I immediately have a counter-question: why the German media will not turn their journalistic eyes to the structure of the gold and currency reserves of Germany itself, in which, according to their statements, the gold share significantly exceeds the Russian (in absolute terms)?
  48. +2
    29 July 2015 18: 45
    Quote: Mark Alekseevich
    I.V. Stalin: “If our enemies scold us, then we are doing everything right”

    VOOOO !!! And I’m talking about the same thing, so right, let it squeal, the city of Europe is collapsing and all that remains is to throw guano on a fan, in general, God bless the health of GDP, he still has a lot of work to do (Crimea added, there are still things to collect the Russian Land (Donetsk , Lugansk, Odessa, Nikolaev, Kherson, Mariupol, Zaporizhia, Kharkov) wink
  49. +1
    29 July 2015 20: 04
    “The Russian president made a strategic miscalculation by betting on a significant increase in the share of gold in the gold and foreign exchange reserves of the Russian Federation, as the price of the noble metal falls and will continue to fall.”

    Of course they would like that oh!
    But where will you put your "candy wrappers" when the Vashintong colossus shatters .. and then collapses? And everything goes to that!
  50. +1
    29 July 2015 20: 07
    Another commissioned article to German journalists about Putin and Russia: well, you have to work off the "green" deducted in batches from some regular fund like "Soros" The goal is obvious: it has long been believed that if you talk about a smart person every day, that he does .. to something after a while everyone will be sure of this, even the clever himself ...
  51. 0
    29 July 2015 21: 02
    Comrades Germans, you better count your gold (which you store in the USA).
  52. 0
    29 July 2015 21: 23
    Has gold become cheaper? Bad or good? So, the main question is: should we buy or sell? We buy - good!!!
  53. 0
    29 July 2015 21: 26
    How the price of gold is formed and by whom. http://www.kpe.ru/sobytiya-i-mneniya/ocenka-sostavlyayuschih-jizni-obschestv
    a/ekonomika/1326-kto-i-kak-formiruet-ceny-na-zoloto
  54. +1
    29 July 2015 21: 34
    The issue of gold and foreign exchange reserves is a matter of the country's sovereignty. When you buy dollars, you work for the US economy, when you buy euros, you work for the EU economy, when you buy gold, you work for yourself. I also applauded the Chinese when, with the dollars they earned, they immediately bought copper, aluminum, rare earth metals, that is, raw materials for industry, and the result was not long in coming.
  55. 0
    30 July 2015 16: 12
    Yes, why incriminate, the stabilization fund to maintain the ruble exchange rate will soon run out, and most of the reserves will be eaten away, everything will burst on its own...