Likbez for the "orange" revolutionaries

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If you open the textbook world stories on the flyleaf, where significant dates are usually collected in one table, then a maximum of five to six revolutions can be seen on 100 years. You can envy those authors who will write a history textbook for 2010-11 years. So many revolutions and coups, perhaps, did not know any historical era, if you do not take, of course, the history of Latin America. Only in the case of Latin America 19-th century, the struggle was for independence from external domination (Spanish), and the current revolution refers to a new class of "orange" (or "color"), when revolutionaries beat their own, so that others were afraid. Moreover, the recipe for modern revolutions is quite simple, so much so that they can be used in almost every corner of the world. So, on what are the modern coups mixed up? If we talk about the recipe, it is approximately as follows.

To begin with, in a certain country of our planet there must necessarily be a handful (maybe even a very small) of people who are dissatisfied with something. Even if the country is successful enough, then you can still find the discontented. Someone doesn’t like the level of salary, someone doesn’t like the color of their Lexus, and the Lexus of a different color doesn’t give a lift, someone cannot see how many tourists trample their land, someone is not happy that the portrait of the country's leader on his wall has already begun to fade, and the leader still does not want to change.
Next, the disgruntled ones should try to gather at one time in one place and immediately send correspondents of the Western media to this place. It is better to collect, of course, through social networks or SMS-messages. So it comes to the modern person faster, because he does not part with his mobile phone even in the toilet. If the disgruntled is a Muslim, then in the text of the message you can indicate that again some scoundrel portrayed the wrong angle of the Prophet Muhammad and that it is necessary to urgently run to the central city square, taking with him all the most necessary things. If the disgruntled is an atheist, then in the message one can indicate that the country is going to adopt a law on the forced Christianization (Islamization, Judaization) of all atheists. In general, the text should lead a person into a frenzy and call for urgent action.

While the dissatisfied are gathering, you can smear your head with ketchup and give an interview to one of the British or American news channels. It is not at all necessary to say a lot here, the main thing is that there should be words in broken English like “freedom”, “democratic” or “people revolution”, as well as a few words in our language in the spirit of “we need a new power” or something in the same kind. Savvy correspondents will make a high-quality cut and convey the words to the viewer as needed.

At the same time, dissatisfied need to hand posters with appeals. Calls must be written, naturally, by hand. Among other words, the same “Freedom” and “Democracy” must be met. We must not forget that 99% of posters should be exclusively with English text, so that those for whom all porridge is brewed, see that the people are not asleep. Among the protesters must be children. They can be taken from their own homes, but it is better to use the services of those for whom the street has become a home. They are much better suited as oppressed. Such children should have a colorful toothpaste on their face to draw a revolutionary banner, and give a small poster in their hands with the words “I haven't eaten for two weeks!”

In order for those gathered not to disperse after fifteen minutes, realizing that they were inflated, you need to stock up on money, tents, flags, thematic newspapers and plenty of food. Some experts on orange revolutions recommend the use of alcohol. From him, as they say, the protest is more natural.

You can take the bust of Karl Marx with you or wear a T-shirt with the image of Che Guevara. We must not forget that the action is broadcast on the most advanced and democratic states of the world. Therefore, you need to pick up bright places for meetings. It would not be superfluous if the revolution was mixed up not far from government buildings. In this case, you need to prepare a group of people who will have to throw stones and empty bottles at the police. Such "heated" revolutionaries will always be found. It will be just great for the transition of the revolutionary movement to a new phase, if the police begin to detain the protesters. It also happens that the police are not in a hurry to take retaliatory measures, then the initiative must be taken into their own hands: spray a dozen or so cans of spray gas over the square. At the same time, closing his eyes full of tears, his hands, you need to remember to cry out to the camera that the police are against the people and are already using force against peaceful demonstrators.

A particularly successful revolutionary move can be the following: two or three participants in the “revolution” disguised as policemen should approach the CNN cell and say that they have just gone over to the side of the protesters. It is better, of course, to use the word "rebels" or "freedom fighters" in their speech. Such words make an indelible impression on the western audience.

The main thing is to hold out for several days, after which zeal can be rewarded, and long-awaited NATO bombers will appear in the sky ...
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  1. +18
    27 October 2011 08: 41
    What are the orange revolutions in figs? For a long time there is a definition - "The Fifth Column" (Quinta columna) enemy agents inside the country or social movement, designed by subversive actions from the inside to contribute to the victory of hostile external forces.

    One of the reasons the USSR won the war was precisely the absence of traitors inside the country.

    “If the opposition (the“ fifth column ”) is not removed on time, it can triumph and lead to very tragic consequences.
    There is no doubt that Stalin knew history well and prepared the country for defense, cleared it of hostile forces, he was aware of the actions of the opposition within the country and agents penetrating from abroad. ”

    V.V. Karpov. Generalissimo
    1. erik777
      0
      27 October 2011 20: 05
      Yes, Stalin did the right thing, a really huge number of traitors before the war was eliminated. And now the liberals are only doing that they tarnish the name of Stalin and all his victorious affairs. Stalin has done so much for the country that the affairs of the Yeltsin Putin, Medvedev even do not pull 1/1000. And they repeat everything about the monstrous repressions of ala Solzhenitsyn in 100 million people.
      1. sirToad
        0
        28 October 2011 05: 49
        "monstrous repression ala Solzhenitsyn in 100 million people."
        swim finely! billiards personally from the left-handed shot and isho stopitsot thousand gobbled alive
    2. Russian Man
      -3
      28 October 2011 01: 16
      There is no doubt, Stalin knew history well and prepared the country for defense

      Correctly! The Stalinist defense was very thought out; it was not just that he gave the entire European part of the USSR to a German, having lost millions of soldiers / civilians and tens of thousands of pieces of equipment, it was Stalin's Plan! The main thing is that in the 37th he killed all the spy-American spies !!! 1
  2. ESCANDER
    +3
    27 October 2011 08: 56
    Right. That we, at one time, had the good fortune of seeing in the vastness of the CIS.
  3. +5
    27 October 2011 08: 57
    Cool creation ... I did not know that the poison can be orange. Respect the author.
    1. erik777
      0
      27 October 2011 19: 59
      While I was reading, I just grinned, really done really =). Everything as it is in fact + humor))
  4. LESHA pancake
    +6
    27 October 2011 09: 22
    BAD WHEN AT THE CHAPTER OF THIS FIFTH COLUMN THE PARANOICS OF A TYPE BREWER SHAVE SAAKASHVILI A LOT OF INNOCENT PEOPLE GOING.
  5. Sergh
    +8
    27 October 2011 10: 15
    That's about the way I imagined, in fact, almost one to one.
    About a year and a half ago, a pimply kid came up to me and stuttered, something went around my ears for a long, long time, about: going out into the street, on strike, etc., well, I starved in short, I silently moved him into a turnip and quietly went , I thought I’ll catch up, I’ll still catch it, but no, I convinced him to see it.
    With these traitors it is impossible in another way!
  6. mitrich
    +13
    27 October 2011 10: 24
    Firstly, I do not agree with the fact that REVOLUTIONS have taken place in Ukraine, Serbia, Georgia, Kyrgyzstan, and Moldova. Even if they are "orange". Still, if we apply a scientific approach to the issue, revolution means a change in the socio-political system. And what happened in the above-mentioned republics? One group of people, fueled by alcohol and paid instigators, overthrew another, not always pro-Russian. Was the Georgian Shevardnadze a pro-Russian politician? In my opinion, on the contrary, and since then, as a member of the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee. In other places it is the same (Milosevic's Serbia stands alone in this row). So these are not revolutions, but coups.
    By the way, the events of October 1917 were also a coup (the Bolsheviks called them the coup until 1927), which plunged the country into a fratricidal civil war, and the real revolution began when I.V. came to power. Stalin and transformation in industry and agriculture.
    Dear colleagues, now, as well as then, they are trying to shake Russia, not only from the liberal-democratic front, but also from the exact opposite. All these "Stop feeding the Caucasus!" and other things that disadvantaged but wealthy people write, are aimed at:
    - pull people out into the streets, create chaos and a mess, a general scuffle like what happened on Manezhnaya Square in Moscow in December 2010;
    - to prevent the third presidential term of V.V. Putin.
    Check out yesterday's gAMauzer comment under the Candidate Test article. I do not presume to assert from what places this husband wrote - from Langley or from Malye Perep-i-z-d-i-sch, but the fact that he pours water on the mill of our enemies is obvious. By the way, some of you have found his commentary useful for reading and comprehension.
    As long as the scenarios of rebellion and coup will find understanding in the heads of some not very adequate men and beautiful, but "naive girls", the scenario of a "revolution" in Russia will be possible. And here it doesn't matter what color she takes.
    1. +4
      27 October 2011 11: 28
      About Langley is beautiful, and about the Bolsheviks-fratricides, too ... BUT .. who is more valuable to mother-history? ... Only you still need to know her, but knowing-not to lie, those who taught her in recent years just by Pindos textbooks, lobbied by medvoputs, edras, etc. October, means a coup? And the February coup, when the worthless tsar abdicated himself from power. and Kaledin, who gave their word not to fight against their own people? Or did the Bolsheviks call the democrats from ANTANTA to rob and kill their people? Further ... Putin's third term, is it a panacea or agitation? 12 years have not shown the true face of the "democratic rulers" and those who order the music? Personally, I am also against chaos and chaos, but why are you from the Democratic Party so afraid of your people who want to express their opinion and their desires? A people who are tired of 20 years of open robbery and lies? About democratic free elections, leave the fable right away for the pro-people press / although is there another? / Do you want to tell me who will win with 100% non-participation in the elections? Or with 95% of the votes for the Communist Party? You know, it’s clear ... Learn history, read Lenin, Stalin, everything is already written about you and how to deal with And no chaos and chaos, only the iron power of patriots without bank accounts and islands with yachts ...
      1. mitrich
        0
        27 October 2011 11: 37
        evgenm55,
        Well, here's how to argue with you feel ? Call you a fool - you’ll be offended, but a big-headed one - your hand does not turn. Stay with your mess in your head, Gavrosh.
        I hope that 55 is not the year of birth, but the weight in kilograms smile .
        1. dmb
          +2
          27 October 2011 12: 54
          You always made the impression of a balanced person, and not being in agreement with your assessment of Putin, I read your comments with interest. And today you, my friend. just like in a crowded tram. Try to refute the written evgenm55 conclusively, rather than engage in insults. At the same time, try to predict the development of events in case of 65-75% victory of the Communist Party in the elections.
          1. +3
            27 October 2011 13: 03
            Yes, the Communist Party will not have 65-75% ... simply will not give on the ground. All rewrite and recount. Enrolled in the regional TEC, I will see what it will look like (forgive the tautology) on the spot.
            1. ESCANDER
              +2
              27 October 2011 13: 49
              Right. The same opinion.
              And tell us if it’s not difficult, how was it.
              1. +2
                27 October 2011 15: 45
                I will tell too. After the election. How it was through the eyes of an eyewitness.
                I already .... by it from the pre-election fuss .... we expect that this year there will again be leaflets supposedly from the Communist Party, but working for a different party, we won’t show which finger ....
                1. mitrich
                  0
                  27 October 2011 15: 50
                  This is the opinion of this lieutenant colonel. Personally, I’m not going to participate in this election campaign anymore; other topics are more interesting than this.
          2. mitrich
            +1
            27 October 2011 14: 13
            dmb,
            Thanks for the previous trust. Just refute from my commentary, as I understand it, the opponent? Let's point by point:
            - "Pindo textbooks, lobbied by bear guides, edras, etc.": no comment, since deliberate nonsense does not need them;
            -further, he is trying to convince me that February 1917 was a coup. Did I write about February? The same coup as in October 1917. Moreover, the future leaders of the White movement took an active part in it. Who arrested the king? General Alekseev, if you are not in the know;
            -Where did the Civil War begin? From the rebellion of the white-cheeks, after Trotsky ordered the seizure of weapons from them, no matter what my opponent claims;
            - Putin’s third term is not a panacea, but the country's stable development, whether it’s considered agitation, I don’t insist on your right to a tick in a certain paragraph of the newsletter;
            - the gentleman, speaking about "12 years of democratic rulers", clearly forgot the 1990s and what was happening then;
            - then I am a "demzaslanets" who is afraid of his people, and everything else until the end of the paragraph: if there are trolls from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, then here is a bright representative for you ...
            On your question: it seems to me in the case of 65-75% that the election results will be falsified locally, since the executive branch needs 50% + 1 vote, in general a parliamentary majority. Is it good or bad? In today's conditions, it’s good. If the Communist Party receives up to 45% of the vote, then this will already be a victory for the opposition.
            1. dmb
              +3
              27 October 2011 14: 50
              I'll start at the end. How then do you differ from the communists you so dislike? Based on what has been said, you consider it a blessing, having spat on the opinion of two-thirds of the people, to falsify elections. According to your EP-blessing. In my opinion, no. And, you must agree, I and a huge number of our fellow citizens have grounds for such a statement. And why the communists who legally came to power will be worse than the illegally remaining in power Serdyukov, Volodin, Gryzlov, Surkov and Medvedev. (The list of "worthy" ones is endless). By the way, most of them appeared just in those "12 years", and I do not see a significant difference between them and their predecessors from among the associates of the Drunkard-Bori. To steal, yes, they became more inventive, but not much. By the way, here is Chubais. It doesn't change at all. A worthy example of stability. We will not touch the history, this is not a topic for discussion of the article. I can only note: "In the course". Who. who and where sent in the context of what was said earlier, too, I think it is inappropriate to discuss. The only thing is about textbooks. I myself read in one of them that all the troubles of the country are that Grisha Yavlinsky was misunderstood, and this pearl is not the only one.
              1. mitrich
                -1
                27 October 2011 15: 13
                dmb,
                What do you answer? Your opinion has already been formed, perhaps by the conditions of your life.
                I would just like not to meet you in hand-to-hand combat. Our common enemies with you only dream that not the boys - football fans, but adult men take to the streets.
                1. dmb
                  +1
                  28 October 2011 12: 13
                  Tell me, who are our common with you ?. I cannot attribute the above gentlemen to friends, rather to enemies. As for living conditions. I did not quite understand the essence of this influence on my opinion. Could it be more specific.
                  I think I understand what your position is based on. You are afraid of blood and chaos and think that Putin will deal with this most effectively. Believe me, I am also afraid of this, especially since the 91 year I and my family met not in prosperous Moscow, but in the most fun place in the North Caucasus, including being my homeland. Yes, and then not far away. Therefore, I understand the danger of a change of leadership. However, I understand that the current government will not change for the better either, there are simply no reasons for this. But then the explosion of discontent will be even larger and bloody. And most importantly, it will go to our grandchildren, who are certainly not to blame for anything.
            2. +3
              27 October 2011 15: 50
              Well, firstly, I was a comrade all my life, gentlemen are Putin and others like them, they love it very much when they are called that. Secondly: again empty insults, what a troll I am? I am a guard officer, a communist, that is, ... I have my own opinion on past and present events, plus life and work experience. In the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, I also do not like a lot, especially the leader, he does not pull on an ideological Bolshevik fighter, he would give way to the young and unsullied, it would be more useful. -the only pro-people and pro-state: there is the nationalization of the land, and the bank, and natural resources, and education with treatment -free-in general, everything that was stolen from the people under the guise of democratic freedom and liberalization. Try to refute this. Development with Putin is construction of pipes to the west and east, is that stability? Or again you say what he wants, but they don't give him, he strives, but he needs time: how much? And why is he so powerless then needed? Or is he everything can, but something else, not for the good of Russia and the people, but for another circle of persons? A narrower one? MAYA CRASH "-read at least a couple-three-then talk. About the White Czechs, where did the prisoners get their weapons, who armed them? The Bolsheviks? And the White Czech uprising gave impetus for Kolchak, or rather for his sponsors, who transported Kolchak from America. The carnage was already in full swing ... And in other respects, there is a complete smoothing out and hushing up of everything that is happening in the country under the rulers of their protégés. And about the 190s, I just don't want to say, what else is incomprehensible and to whom?
              1. mitrich
                0
                27 October 2011 16: 08
                evgenm55,
                I will not argue with you. Found my posts an insult - sorry. I apologize publicly.
                Your commentary is mostly about politics, and this is just an opinion, but not the truth.
                As for the whites. The corps was formed as a military unit of the tsarist army, which was to take part in the war with the Germans, from captured Czechs and Slovaks. Hence the armament of personnel. The transfer to the front began under the Provisional Government, so the head echelons of the corps were in the Volga region, and the rear in the Far East. Such a deployment of parts of the corps made it possible to start an uprising and capture the vast territories of Siberia, the Urals and the Volga region.
            3. 0
              27 October 2011 19: 45
              "- Putin's third term is not a panacea, but the stable development of the country" - THIS IS STABLE IN THE DYNAMIC DISAPPEARANCE, SALE-PRIVATIZATION, ETC ETC COUNTRY! Read the Federal Law of December 13, 2010 No. 357-FZ "On the federal budget for 2011 and for the planning period of 2012 and 2013" (14.12.2010/XNUMX/XNUMX) on the website of the Ministry of Finance, for example.
    2. 0
      27 October 2011 16: 17
      Naive girls publicly tear shirts for Putin. What naive boys can tear is scary to think ...
      But here is a small photo report:

      This is a picket in favor of the "Children of War", well-fed, well-fed riot police are about to start driving out the picketers. Take a closer look.

      Instead of the ousted picketers, they put “children of war” in the caps of just Russia. which stand bored, without any posters and demands. They are also children of war, but only wars between the state and its population.
      Look at the faces of old people, at the backside of riot police, at the bored faces of youth, and say that YOU ARE NOT ashamed of the government.
      By the way, about the opposition line of the Just Russians clearly. When needed, they went out and stood, not on the side of the offended old people, but on the side of the authorities and riot police.
  7. +1
    27 October 2011 10: 53
    Volodin, such articles are your path, do not go into geopolitics and defense issues, there will be more sense.
  8. URB
    URB
    +2
    27 October 2011 11: 44
    something, somewhere correctly said .... but not everything is as it is) we will not know some business, maybe never! You never know where there is truth ... and once again when a revolution or civil war starts somewhere, we still will not know the truth!
  9. Aleksey42
    +2
    27 October 2011 12: 09
    1. I am against any violent change of power.
    2. The people should have the right to express their opinion, including public actions.
  10. NUT
    NUT
    +4
    27 October 2011 12: 12
    everything is so, but the author missed the most important detail:
    to "smear the head with ketchup" this ketchup must be taken somewhere, and ours, with whom we do not drink, revolutionaries, idlers, students, homeless people and drunks, as a rule, have no money and a normal person, with the exception of "Pindos", for such crap he won't give his earned money
    well, those "know problems" and hobby, but at a brutal percentage and the strictest observance of their instructions to their "ketchup"
  11. Anatoly
    0
    27 October 2011 13: 41
    Easy and with humor .....
    Although, the option is quite possible in Russia.
  12. 0
    27 October 2011 13: 53
    These are sitting here, their nicknames you know very well.
  13. +2
    27 October 2011 13: 55
    These z @ tsy are sitting here, you know their nicknames very well.
  14. -3
    27 October 2011 14: 02
    Funny article, especially about ketchup wink It seems to me unlikely that in this way revolutions are carried out.
    1. 0
      27 October 2011 15: 10
      And how do you think things were in 2004 on the Maidan.
      Nowadays, even large crowds of yelling are not visible, due to the lack of the most democratic representatives of the Ukrainian people in power.
  15. +1
    27 October 2011 14: 13
    Pretty ironic and believable. To the author +.
  16. +1
    27 October 2011 15: 15
    Janke is not asleep.
    Each of their actions is another maneuver, a tactical move in world domination.
  17. LESHA pancake
    +2
    27 October 2011 15: 17
    AND WHO EXPECTED THAT LIVIA WILL SO ACCEPT. THE FIFTH COLUMN EXTENDED THE MAXIMUM EFFORTS FOR ORGANIZING THE NATO BOMBERS. TOTAL CITIES ARE DESTROYED, THOUSANDS KILLED AND HA HA DEMOCRACY REVOLVED. A LEADER OF STATE PUBLICALLY LATERED.
  18. 0
    27 October 2011 15: 29
    If the dissatisfied is an atheist, then the message may indicate that the country is going to adopt a law on forced Christianization (Islamization, Judaization) of all atheists. In general, the text should lead a person into a frenzy and call for urgent action

    Funny ...
  19. Owl
    +1
    27 October 2011 15: 51
    It is written sensibly, with humor, because all sorts of "marches", "rallies", "meetings" look like this. Hopefully, Russia will overcome the "election and post-election" period without these events.
  20. gAMauzer
    +2
    27 October 2011 17: 27
    Comrados, I'm just touching you ... (wah, shitty, but a rhyme)

    On the one hand, you (most of you) want a GOOD authority that will provide you with benefits, etc., etc. However, not one of you is even going to try to tear the kettlebell away from a known place and go to INSTALL this GOOD power. It, for some unknown reason, must be installed on its own. MUST. HERSELF.

    It is interesting to ask: why is it suddenly?

    Power is a tool of society (no matter how hard it is to believe). The tool is worn out and does not fulfill its function - it is replaced with a new one. If they do not change, it means that its performance suits the society.
    The moral, I think, is clear.

    Incidentally, by what criterion is the "orange" character of a coup (mutiny, putsch, revolution, whatever) determined? By the subjective attitude of a certain Alexei Volodin towards her? Or gAMauzer from Langley?

    Or, after all, is your own subjective for everyone?
    Imagine the situation (hypothetically): the country introduces a 60-hour work week, the retirement age rises to 70 years, free education and medical care are completely abolished. Will you continue to sit at home? Or will you go to shoot the "top"?

    If the first one: congratulations, the medical team has already left.
    If the second: welcome to the ("orange") revolution.

    "Orange" - because there will certainly be those who will not like your discontent, and who will stigmatize you as the "fifth column".

    As for the "fifth column" itself: practice shows that it is possible to determine exactly whether this "revolution" is from the outside or in reality, only AFTER its victory or defeat.

    By the way, fierce apologists of the USSR: you may well be reproached for the fact that you, at one time, missed this very "fifth column", entrenched not anywhere, but in the highest echelons of power.
    1. +3
      27 October 2011 17: 43
      Don't you live in Ukraine? hardly. Then they would know that the Orange people are now called "revolutions" (in quotation marks), which are taking place according to our Ukrainian scenario. And this scenario and the consequences of these putsches are surprisingly in the hands of the world Lord - the States. Europe does not count, it itself is head over heels in "American-style democracy" and did not even notice the substitution of values. The West needs such semi-countries as Ukraine for a long time, since the Second World War. To put pressure on Russia. Dulles' plan worked, hat off. But Russia has remained, so it must be surrounded by hostile pseudo-state formations.

      Regarding the described situation with pensions and working hours: do you want to say that this government is so bad? this is the kind of people. All. So who to beat? with what fright to go to the barricades? for others to come? those who do not understand this and go with slogans left over from the time of the French Revolution like "freedom, equality, brotherhood." Only now it has been replaced by a more modern and incomprehensible, but so pleasant to the ear of the stupid "democracy and freedom of speech." Of course the fifth column. How else can I call the people who plunged my country into the Stone Age? like Yushchenko. I'm not talking about my native Union. I'm not a fierce apologist of it, but there were still a lot of good moments. It's a pity that neither Yeltsin nor Krava asked me when they were sharing the pie
    2. 0
      28 October 2011 07: 44
      In general, everything is correct, no one will give us deliverance: neither the king, nor God, nor the hero, we will achieve liberation with our own hand. Axiom. And I agree about the death of the UNION: they are to blame, with cheap replicas and for hamburgers at all corners with porn on all channels surrendered the country. Now it's too late to lament, you need to correct the situation, and as it will be called counter-orange, purple or "the night of the insulted people" -their corrupt business. But in Langley, however, you are well prepared ...
  21. gAMauzer
    +3
    27 October 2011 18: 01
    I think that the current Libyan "revolution" can also be called "orange" - although its scenario is very different from the Ukrainian one.

    Another small hypothetical model: neighbor Vasya takes his grandfather’s three-ruler and, among the nth mass of people, goes to shoot at the cops; neighbor Petya takes grandfather’s PPSh and goes to shoot Vasya from the ranks of the Cop ranks, along with some more civilians. Both have been familiar for a long time. The first has a red bandage on the shoulder, the second has a blue bandage.

    You know the situation in the country yesterday evening from the news broadcasts - and this situation is, as it were, "normal" - one curve goes up, the other curve goes down, the equipment of toilet bowls is completed. The question to you as observing the actions of Vasya and Petya from the window: what kind of revolution began ("orange" or "real"), who is on the right side (Vasya or Petya) and are there any agents of the "fifth column" among the shooting crowds?

    Will you undertake to answer these questions right at the SAME MOMENT? Or just say “I don’t know” (by the way, this is the only possible correct answer)?

    The latter, by the way, made possible the "victory" of the ragamuffins in Libya: because not everyone could (and could not) figure out whose bombs were falling on their heads - Gaddafi or NATO.
    1. +1
      27 October 2011 18: 39
      Yes, about most of these troubles here it’s not clear what to say right away. But, as an example - about the Ukrainian putsch I immediately said that this is for whose money, who needs it and what will happen next. The same opinion now. So, despite the difference in views and writing history at the right time and the current government, there are people who see soberly in any situation. To do this, just remember the story. In particular, the history of revolutions. A vivid example is the revolution of the 17th year
      1. gAMauzer
        +2
        27 October 2011 18: 50
        And the revolution of 05-07: were these people still blind?

        The fact is that - in such a situation - everyone thinks differently. And acts in accordance with his vision of the situation.
        And as you know, there are as many opinions as there are people.
        Someone is guessing. If this someone is close to the "fulcrum", then he is able to "turn the earth". Or it doesn't work - how lucky.

        Using the example of the same "Orange Maidan": one of my acquaintances living in Ukraine still considers it a true "triumph of democracy", and the period of Yushchenko's rule is almost the most "free" period (however, the arguments are quite original: " you could have sent the president himself to ** th, and there would have been nothing for that "- well, yes, that's another conversation).

        It would come to a civil war - you would be on opposite sides of the barricades. And everyone would call the enemy "orange" (in the sense, "the fifth column"). And the final mark would be drawn by the winner. A striking example is the same revolution of 17.
  22. Mahamont
    +1
    27 October 2011 21: 19
    Interesting. If a simple working people lives quietly for itself, works, raises children. Someone is trying to live better and many succeed, there are opportunities for this. So who is trying to make a revolution? ..
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      27 October 2011 23: 52
      quite by chance happened to communicate with people who are lying, but I don’t believe them just did not make sense
      = Kiev numbers:
      -lives near that square. collected from all around the kids, homeless people and drunks. 20 hryvnias are paid per day on the square, 50 bucks per night. everything around is pocked and for $% ano. noise, screaming ...
      I drove the family to Kiev to the country house, and there all the forests were clogged with troops and equipment.
      I had to bring to relatives
      = in Alushta for a beer with the boys:
      -found in Kiev, you can get there for free. wanted to go to the ball with friends. everyone was built at the station. took the passports. a senior was appointed. on buses and on the Square of Nezalezhnosti. frost, socks, gloves, scarves, tents were given out on the ball. famously fed. tea was given from which "hee-hee rushing and finally you don't want to sleep", but one glass per person. watched, from a position not a foot. then to the cars and home. "For a week, they gave 1500 bucks to everyone. It's a pity we didn't go earlier. Just don't tell your mother."
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      28 October 2011 01: 25
      Quote: Maamont
      So who is trying to stage a revolution ?.

      it's elementary, Mammoth!
      by 2004 in Ukraine an unprecedented rise in production. start up old ones, build new factories, and if you knit your own "brooms" at your factory, why the hell do you need Polish or American "brooms"?
      in this case, their factories are closed, and the owners of those of their factories do not like it
      their hard workers begin to buzz without a salary, but their rulers with whom we do not drink do not like it
      the cheapest and simplest way out is to buy at a wholesale price (no more than 30 pieces of silver) a revolutionary-minded mass and appoint a "mazep" who will quickly destroy his factories and "brooms" will again start buying from them
      By the way, they run into Lukasheko because he still knits his "brooms"
      if you understand, then I ask you to explain this to Comrade.gAMauzery.
      in 1905-07, the issue with the "brooms" well, it became an edge, but the difference is that from the same revolutionary attitude bought by the Shoblis they fired at the soldiers a couple of times, and they naturally took offense, and all progressive mankind was really happy about it, though not for long ...
      Well, today, I look, we firmly decided to step on, to the pain, the rake familiar to everyone and I'm afraid that there is no power capable of depriving us of this pleasure ...