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Ukrainian citizenship: try give up!

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Ukrainian citizenship: try give up!


From unpatriotic. I never thought that the citizenship of Ukraine is like a disease of vitiligo. Get rid of almost impossible. Even if you accepted the citizenship of another country, for example, a European country, they will not allow you to simply get out of Ukrainian, and dual citizenship is prohibited. Moreover, if our person received the citizenship of another state, then in legal relations with his homeland, he is still recognized only as a citizen of Ukraine. This means that an American or an Australian can be forced to serve in the ATO and even imprisoned for refusing to be drafted. Do not believe? I tell in order.

I have a classmate, a talented musician who was euro-integrated long before naive compatriots began to dance on the Maidan. While still a student at the conservatory, he won a prestigious international competition. He accepted an offer to play in a symphony orchestra in Europe. First in one, then in another. He married an Austrian violinist. He became the happy father of three children. And in the end he received the citizenship of Austria.

As a law-abiding person (almost European), he went to the Ukrainian embassy and inquired how he could pass our passport. For dual citizenship by Ukrainian law is not provided.

He was asked what kind of citizenship he received. “Austria,” my classmate answered modestly. "Not lucky ..." - muttered in the embassy. It turns out that the procedure for changing citizenship is simplified only if there are bilateral agreements between states providing for the automatic termination of the citizenship of one and the acquisition of citizenship of the other. But we have such agreements with ... Georgia, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan. Austria is not among the “lucky ones”.

“How can I be,” the talented musician asked the embassy staff. Those generously discovered the Law of Ukraine “On the Citizenship of Ukraine” and “The Procedure for Proceeding on Applications and Representations on the Citizenship of Ukraine and the Implementation of Decisions taken”, approved by decree of the President of Ukraine No. 215 of 27.03.2001 of the year. And they said with undisguised joy in his voice that to renounce the citizenship of Ukraine is IMPOSSIBLE. Stop - you can. But only in the case of exit from citizenship or in connection with his loss.

Well, okay, - my friend agreed, - can I lose my citizenship or leave it?
Inexpensive ..
No, - the embassy patriots answered, - the exit is carried out by the mutual consent of the citizen and the state.
РЇ СЃРѕРіР »Р ° сен.
And the state may not.
And what should I do to make the state agree with my desire to quit citizenship? - My childhood friend began to lose patience.

Well, you need to submit a copy of the Ukrainian foreign passport with a stamp about leaving for permanent residence abroad, a document on registering with the consulate, a document confirming that you have acquired the citizenship of another state, or a document, a statement of withdrawal from the citizenship of Ukraine, a receipt for paying the consular collection in $ 210 and all this for a month.

And further, having caught a lightened sigh from the mouth of my friend, the representative of the consulate added: “And then we will prepare an opinion on the possibility of satisfying the petition or on the impossibility and send materials to the Commission under the President of Ukraine on citizenship.”

What, will the president decide? - timidly asked a famous musician.

Yes, a presidential decree is issued on every occasion. You need to wait a year.
And to lose citizenship is not easier? - asked the applicant.
Well, for this you need to obtain the citizenship of another country as a result of deception, deliberately providing false information or false documents. Voluntarily enter military service abroad. And so on. By the way, in case of loss of citizenship, the initiators of the procedure are diplomatic missions, and not a citizen. Therefore, do not even hope - we will not give you citizenship.

Sadness shook my buddy. To dispel her, he decided to call home mom. But he did not even have time to say a word about his visit to the consulate. Annoyed old woman reported that she had received a summons for her son. And, if he tries to visit her at home, he will immediately go on tour to the ATO area.

My friend the musician was outraged and called, it seems, in the Foreign Ministry to report two important news. First of all, he is a very famous violinist. A front violinists contraindicated. And, secondly, what is the ATU demon, if he is an Austrian citizen ?!

In the foreign policy department, he was listened to and replied that, since he still had not resigned from the citizenship of his homeland, he was recognized only as a citizen of Ukraine in legal relations with her. And his Austrian passport is a personal matter.

You never know who here is a passport. We have half the government with unknown passports. Therefore, there is nothing to shirk and hide behind foreign citizenship, the country needs slaves, let it lock the violin in the chest and slap on the war. There he will be given another bow.

Do not want? Deviationists are given ... prison. And, by the way, when arresting a foreign consul you should not count. It is clearly said, for the dull: you are a citizen of Ukraine in relations with Ukraine. And if you have at least three hundred passports, they are not considered ...

After that, my friend called me and shared his emotions from what he heard. If you isolate his key idea from pronouns and not quite literary words, it outraged his attitude of the democratic and pro-European Ukrainian state to its citizens as slaves.

“When I needed a state to protect my interests,” my friend boiled over, “he is never around.” But when he needs me in the form of cannon fodder, he will get it out of the ground. And with taxes as well. I don't care that there is a double taxation treaty, that I pay taxes here, I keep my family, I pay loans. If I am a citizen of Ukraine, then, be kind, share with your motherland. And I like the argument: they say, how else would you receive a pension? And if I do not apply for a Ukrainian pension? If I am satisfied with the Austrian? Why do I have to pay a bribe to the state in which I was just born, finished school and left for 19 in years. Did she send me to work? Or do I owe him my becoming? And where are human rights, civil rights in general? Why can not I renounce the citizenship of Ukraine? I am not the property of Ukraine. I am a free person, born in Ukraine, but living in another country.

This is probably unpatriotic, but I agree with him. Americans, won, do not allow their citizens to work abroad and not pay taxes to the US budget. But say goodbye to an American passport? .. Yes, easy! Then piss off! Millions of people are already at the door.

As in family relations, a stranglehold clings to its citizens of the country, who are not confident in their strength and attractiveness. Ignoring the simple truth: you can not be forced by force.

But the lyrics will not help. After searching on the Internet, I found what I needed for a friend. The law firm offered services to those who wish to lose the citizenship of Ukraine. "Right now! Click here and find out how! ”Was written on the site.

We clicked and found out that the experienced lawyers of the N company can significantly simplify our way to the termination of Ukrainian citizenship. They will select the most appropriate way to achieve the goal and help you choose the optimal procedure for termination of Ukrainian citizenship. Quickly and efficiently prepare the necessary package of documents. Accompanied to the competent authorities. Will assist and protect interests.

Well, if you run away from the citizenship of a country only for money, you will have to pay. As they say, the entrance is the ruble, the exit is ten. My friend willingly copied the link to the site of the company and immediately wrote them a letter ...
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  1. sir_obs
    sir_obs 29 July 2015 14: 22
    +6
    Even cancer will be defeated soon, and Ukrainian citizenship is even more intriguing
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 29 July 2015 14: 25
      +19
      Yes, if you’re getting into Ukrainian ... you’ll not wash yourself! smile
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 29 July 2015 19: 33
        +5
        Everything written in this article is absolutely true!
        It was the bureaucrats of Khokhlozoo who made it specifically to circumvent the law on the prohibition of dual citizenship.
        Anthem "hoh ....: SHO NE ZYIM TO PASS !!!!!"
        1. Smoke
          Smoke 29 July 2015 22: 52
          +7
          Citizenship Law, the oldest Ukrainian law. When the ancient Ukrainians wanted to dig out from the digging of the Black Sea .... And so it has been since ancient times)) And about the Ukrainians T. Shevchenko wrote:
          The crest is filled with the crest,
          Want to let him go to Europe.
          De treba diyatom rozumom,
          Vin napruzhu tilki ass.
          I to that in Rus
          It is reserved already by Monomakh:
          "Call God free!
          Three - a Jew, a crest and a lyakhom. "
          Pidstupdny Jew, wants and slіpiy,
          Chanlivy Lyakh - girsha fucking,
          Khokhol - hlib with you,
          I immediately shit in tobi soup.
          1. ulis83
            ulis83 29 July 2015 23: 58
            -13
            Firstly. Why are you adding oil to an already blazing bonfire?
            Secondly, this is not Shevchenko. And do not believe those who "rot" the Ukrainian poet with such lines
            1. ArhipenkoAndrey
              ArhipenkoAndrey 30 July 2015 06: 17
              +6
              Maybe not Shevchenko, but it’s absolutely true and accurate, and I ask you not to confuse the Ukrainians and Ukrainians, in the best sense of the word, and not in that in which they understand him now on the open.
            2. provincial
              provincial 30 July 2015 08: 58
              0
              These are Putin’s poems.
        2. serezhasoldatow
          serezhasoldatow 23 January 2020 08: 42
          0
          And all this thanks to EBN, who loved hohland more than Russia.
      2. Dmitry Toderes
        Dmitry Toderes 30 July 2015 23: 21
        0
        Quote: SRC P-15
        Yes, if you’re getting into Ukrainian ... you’ll not wash yourself! smile


        You will not survive! That's what the trouble is! In ATO send nafig.
    2. SS68SS
      SS68SS 29 July 2015 14: 27
      +8
      Quote: sir_obs
      Even cancer will be defeated soon, and Ukrainian citizenship is even more intriguing


      And kaklov always so. The ruble is the entrance, the exit is a hundred ... That’s the whole essence of kaklov ... You just need to know this trait of zapadentsev in order to stop being surprised at such stupid things ...
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 30 July 2015 16: 30
        +1
        Quote: SS68SS
        Quote: sir_obs
        Even cancer will be defeated soon, and Ukrainian citizenship is even more intriguing


        And kaklov always so. The ruble is the entrance, the exit is a hundred ... That’s the whole essence of kaklov ... You just need to know this trait of zapadentsev in order to stop being surprised at such stupid things ...

        When the entrance is 1 ruble, and the output 100 and even death, then this is a religious sect.
      2. The comment was deleted.
    3. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 29 July 2015 14: 52
      +41
      Oh yes .... It’s not so easy to escape from Ukraine. The article has not yet described the procedure for renouncing citizenship in Ukraine through leaving for permanent residence abroad (assuming there is no ATO)
      1. Foreign passport of Ukraine, mandatory availability (for a fee, a certificate of non-conviction and state duty only)
      2. Help from the tax that should not be the state, etc. (free of charge, waited a month)
      3. Sprivvka from Goskomzem about the presence or absence of land (everything is paid and wait up to a month)
      4. Help with BTI about the presence or absence of real estate (paid and wait for 3 week)
      5. Non-conviction certificate (paid, 2 weeks of waiting)
      6. Certificate from the military registration and enlistment office about deregistration of the military
      7. Help from the SBU. (1 month of waiting)
      8. Print Ministry of Internal Affairs and the extract from the passport office (final)

      I passed 5 points to 2014, spent exactly 3 of the month and a lot of money, but then unfortunately the ATO began, and the points 6,7 and 8 disappeared very quickly wassat laughing, with thoughts: Run, Forest, run, I left the country 404
      1. Nevsky_ZU
        Nevsky_ZU 29 July 2015 15: 13
        +3
        Oh yes .... It’s not so easy to escape from Ukraine. The article has not yet described the procedure for renouncing citizenship in Ukraine through leaving for permanent residence abroad (assuming there is no ATO)


        I still forgot about help from the traffic police hi wassat Now, when the traffic police dispersed in Ukraine, I wonder where to get the certificate and for how much? request
      2. aleks 62
        aleks 62 29 July 2015 15: 26
        +6
        ..... with thoughts: Run, Forest, run, I sailed out of the country 404 ....

        ... Correctly done .... It was only necessary early .... hi
    4. Vend
      Vend 29 July 2015 15: 10
      +2
      Quote: sir_obs
      Even cancer will be defeated soon, and Ukrainian citizenship is even more intriguing

      Funny.
      I AM NOT PROPERTY OF Ukraine.
      Slaves and even what.
      1. Flexsus
        Flexsus 29 July 2015 16: 50
        +2
        Here it turns out which ... FREE UKRAINIANS! Here it is what European integration !!!
        1. ulis83
          ulis83 30 July 2015 00: 02
          -16
          What difference do you have in Udmurtia? your Europe is Kazakhstan, maximum! Or am I wrong?
          1. Maks-80
            Maks-80 30 July 2015 08: 04
            +1
            In your Europe it is Somalia maximum. bully
    5. Imperialkolorad
      Imperialkolorad 29 July 2015 17: 15
      +2
      Quote: sir_obs
      Even cancer will be defeated soon, and Ukrainian citizenship is even more intriguing

      I did not go into legal similarities, but I have many acquaintances of former Ukrainians who are now quite Russians.
      1. kotvov
        kotvov 29 July 2015 21: 08
        +2
        but I have many friends of former Ukrainians who are now quite Russians. ,,
        the question is not that they are Russians, but that if they appear in Ukraine, they will again become citizens of her own. Help did not buy request
      2. O_RUS
        O_RUS 29 July 2015 23: 49
        +8
        Quote: ImperialKolorad
        but I have many friends of former Ukrainians who are now quite Russians.


        I have been living in Russia a little over a year. I respect Russia and its citizens hi

        Quote: kotvov
        and the fact that if they appear in Ukraine, they again become citizens of her.


        but I won’t go back. The Ukraine in which I grew up no longer gave a lot of strength and health to an independent Ukraine. What has become an independent? Yes, it turned into a cesspool !!!

        All I will live in Russia and my children will graduate in this country.
        1. Smoke
          Smoke 30 July 2015 18: 05
          +2
          I feel sorry for humanity, I myself was born near St. Petersburg, now I live in the Volga region, it’s good here, but ...) And I wish you to come those times when you will visit your homeland with joy and warm feelings. Good luck.
  2. Turbo rabbit
    Turbo rabbit 29 July 2015 14: 24
    +3
    How??? To fight without an orchestra ?? No, well, that's the reason for all the boilers! They didn’t have an orchestra playing stimulating music.
    1. Sobol
      Sobol 29 July 2015 14: 56
      +1
      Quote: Turbo-Rabbit
      How??? To fight without an orchestra ?? No, well, that's the reason for all the boilers! They didn’t have an orchestra playing stimulating music.

      So the militia seemed to stimulate, including the Russian pop music. wassat
      1. Turbo rabbit
        Turbo rabbit 29 July 2015 16: 02
        +1
        So pop, only a gag reflex causes.
        1. dakka-dakka
          dakka-dakka 29 July 2015 21: 48
          -1
          psychic attack
      2. reservist
        reservist 29 July 2015 18: 47
        +1
        but there are examples when someone won under the Russian pop music? winked
  3. Grabberxnumx
    Grabberxnumx 29 July 2015 14: 25
    +6
    Yeah .. classic .. by the way such examples in bulk! In the Russian Federation he reported to the FMS about the second and sleep peacefully .. the second does not bother. The output is also simple.
    "2. Withdrawal from the citizenship of the Russian Federation of a person residing on the territory of a foreign state is carried out on the basis of the voluntary expression of the will of such a person in a simplified manner, except for the cases provided for in Article 20 of this Federal Law."

    http://www.consultant.ru/popular/civic/34_3.html
    © ConsultantPlus, 1992-2015
  4. Reserve officer
    Reserve officer 29 July 2015 14: 28
    +13
    The serfs belong to the landowner. Why be surprised. And if they leave, then who will die in the ATO?
    Problems.
    Everyone is different. We also have problems - how to send the fuck out of the country many democrats and liberals. Forever, no right of return. They don't want to. Here they get American money for shitting. And how to make money in "countries of flourishing democracy" if they can't do anything else?
    1. Grabberxnumx
      Grabberxnumx 29 July 2015 14: 32
      +20
      In general, Khokhlops with both citizenship and exit from it were not lucky.
      And about the liberals. Interesting! Show me at least one turner-liberal, welder-liberal or builder-liberal. All some kind of poets, musicians, entrepreneurs, resonators!
      1. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 29 July 2015 14: 53
        +15
        For Grabber2000.
        Yuri, bravo! The liberal turner is strong! Zadornov is resting.
        When people are engaged in concrete serious work, they are not afraid of the virus of liberalism. Conclusion - to attract gentlemen liberals to socially useful work, to develop "occupational therapy" everywhere. Our country has colossal experience.
        1. Flexsus
          Flexsus 29 July 2015 16: 53
          +3
          How can one not recall the all-Union doctor, Comrade Stalin. It’s a pity that not everyone managed to be cured ...
      2. oldzek
        oldzek 29 July 2015 21: 55
        +1
        exactly! creative intelligentsia is something special
    2. Flexsus
      Flexsus 29 July 2015 16: 51
      +1
      Interestingly, do they have St. George’s Day?
  5. Altona
    Altona 29 July 2015 14: 32
    +7
    In Latvia they don’t want to give citizenship, in Ukraine they don’t want to annul ... Madhouse just ...
  6. klavyr
    klavyr 29 July 2015 14: 34
    +2
    ... will help you choose the optimal procedure for terminating Ukrainian citizenship.
    - kul in the forehead?
    Quickly and efficiently ...
    laughing
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 29 July 2015 14: 37
    +3
    countries that are not confident in their strength and attractiveness cling to their citizens with a stranglehold

    And those who are afraid that as a result of their activities in the country there may be 0 point to horseradish tenths, allegedly, the indigenous inhabitants of this country. And who will continue the cause of the "great ukrov", from whom will the state take taxes, who will be shaved into soldiers?
    1. Flexsus
      Flexsus 29 July 2015 16: 54
      +1
      So they like the European Union promised to bring blacks from Africa ...
  8. Pafos
    Pafos 29 July 2015 14: 39
    +2
    Threat fun. Comrade lawyer as a booze can be so clinked from the fucking Ukrainian legislation. And how he sued the tax, I had a fit of laughter from laughter. And no one returned the overpaid money to him, he scored on this matter. He still can’t be forced to pay land tax and everything within the law laughing
  9. Zingvar
    Zingvar 29 July 2015 14: 43
    +10
    For the first time I hear that citizenship cannot be refused. Damn Ukrin ahead of the rest, then the third round of presidential elections, then two presidents at once, then you can’t refuse citizenship, then Russia can no longer be called Russia, what else will come up in Kiev. Maybe it’s time to pass them to the polyclinic for experiments?
  10. leytenant
    leytenant 29 July 2015 14: 45
    +10
    This is what turns out, the residents of the Crimea and Sevastopol, after presenting the passport of the citizen of the Russian Federation with a residence permit at the place of residence, can get an agenda in the ATO at the crossing of the border of Ukraine, and so on, like you do not care that you have there in the Crimea. Crimea is our type with its entire population, so you will serve if something in the APU? Crimeans are not lucky, will have to refrain from visiting the country of savages for years at eleven ....
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 29 July 2015 15: 00
      +2
      Quote: leytenant
      This is what turns out, the residents of the Crimea and Sevastopol, after presenting the passport of the citizen of the Russian Federation with a residence permit at the place of residence, can get an agenda in the ATO at the crossing of the border of Ukraine, and so on, like you do not care that you have there in the Crimea. Crimea is our type with its entire population, so you will serve if something in the APU? Crimeans are not lucky, will have to refrain from visiting the country of savages for years at eleven ....


      Yeah, if the Russians moved from the Russian motherland to the Crimea, made a local residence permit and were passing through Ukraine, then theoretically they could get into the ATO. Since the agenda in Ukraine give the entire male gender, not relying on military registration.
    2. aleks 62
      aleks 62 29 July 2015 15: 29
      +1
      ..... Crimea, such as ours, with its entire population, therefore, will you serve if in the Armed Forces? Crimeans were not lucky, they will have to refrain from visiting the country of savages for eleven years .......

      ... And so it turns out ..... True, so far we have not heard of such cases .... But it’s better not to ride 404 ..... hi
      1. Flexsus
        Flexsus 29 July 2015 16: 57
        +1
        All Crimea go to serve in the Russian army:
        Quote: aleks 62
        Voluntarily enlist in military service abroad.
  11. vtnsk
    vtnsk 29 July 2015 14: 50
    +5
    The easiest way out of "citizenship" of Ukraine is to liquidate state404 to its foundations ... laughing
    PS No "country", no "citizenship" ...
  12. Zomanus
    Zomanus 29 July 2015 14: 51
    +3
    Yes, there is the whole state of Ukraine "for fun". They also planned to live next to us, at our expense, under our protection. Therefore, the laws are the same and everything else. And now they have decided to become well, completely independent. And it turns out that there are other requirements ...
  13. montemor
    montemor 29 July 2015 15: 03
    +8
    sam proshel vsjy ety kanitel, smog dobitsja tolko vuezda na PMG. Dalshe nerealno, zabil, kak Nevskiy
  14. Decathlon
    Decathlon 29 July 2015 15: 20
    +4
    To increase the affection for "Nenke", the brand in the form of a trident can be laser burned on the forehead! Right in the hospital ...
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 30 July 2015 16: 41
      +1
      Quote: Decathlon
      To increase the affection for "Nenke", the brand in the form of a trident can be laser burned on the forehead! Right in the hospital ...

      Do not give such advice! And then it will be so!
  15. mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 29 July 2015 15: 38
    +2
    Yanukovych, I think the citizen of Ukraine agreed to testify in the trial. Yanukovych. of course, a coward and a traitor, but he is not an idiot. Therefore, of course, he will give testimony on TV. I have no doubt that the Ukrainian court "the most humane in the world" will do justice and sue Yanukovych for nothing I want. Then they will have to get it. to throw in the zindan. How will they do it? Teleportation! Imagine Yanukovych flying through the sky with a briefcase in his hands.
  16. sogdianec
    sogdianec 29 July 2015 15: 53
    +2
    An application addressed to the president by registered letter, or through the embassy. Save a copy of yourself. When the mess is over and the judiciary in Ukraine is restored, it will be possible to finally resolve the issue of citizenship. And now, just to score and not meddle in the country of 404.
  17. Pilot200809
    Pilot200809 29 July 2015 15: 55
    +2
    ... and a reference to a law firm can be in the studio
  18. RiverVV
    RiverVV 29 July 2015 16: 02
    +5
    I read the comments and thought: did Yanukovych receive a summons from the draft board? Also a citizen.
  19. engineer74
    engineer74 29 July 2015 16: 04
    +2
    The country comrade was mistaken, it was necessary to make a career in Tajikistan! smile Although it’s not too late:
    The circumstances facilitating the acquisition of citizenship of the Republic of Tajikistan are:

    - The state of citizenship of the former USSR;

    - adoption of a child who is a citizen of the Republic of Tajikistan;

    - the presence of high achievements in the field of science, technology and culture, as well as the possession of professions or qualifications of interest to the Republic of Tajikistan;
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 29 July 2015 21: 15
      0
      The country comrade was mistaken, it was necessary to make a career in Tajikistan ,,
      yes, nevermind. he would still remain a citizen of this ... well, let's say the state.
  20. evil partisan
    evil partisan 29 July 2015 16: 15
    +4
    Hmmm ... Ukraine is a big leper colony ...
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  21. pts-m
    pts-m 29 July 2015 16: 53
    +1
    yak kahly say ... sho ne bad. that's good ...
  22. Frigate
    Frigate 29 July 2015 17: 31
    +2
    Yes, when they began to run into Benya in the dill saying that he had dual citizenship, everyone thought he had dill citizenship, but it turned out he couldn’t refuse either, he spat and bought a third one to keep up. laughing
    By the way, something he has calmed down.
  23. Pilot200809
    Pilot200809 29 July 2015 17: 34
    +1
    Quote: wicked partisan
    Hmmm ... Ukraine is a big leper colony ...


    ... more correct, probably the PANOPTICUM
  24. yuri31a
    yuri31a 29 July 2015 18: 04
    0
    What is, that is))) And this is cool tin)!
  25. puppet
    puppet 29 July 2015 18: 07
    +1
    lawyers of the company N ... Escort to the competent authorities.


    Yes, they will ask you to come to eliminate the latest formalities, they will take the money and escort them directly to the competent authorities
  26. Makarov
    Makarov 29 July 2015 18: 14
    +1
    The solution is simple - to score and live in peace with 2 citizenships .... and preferably with 3 as Benya Kolomoisky)
  27. givigor71
    givigor71 29 July 2015 18: 30
    0
    Perhaps you still need to make a tattoo on the forehead with dill - "dill" or ... laughing
  28. Azovian
    Azovian 29 July 2015 19: 31
    -1
    As for me, this bloke is the same Austrian as the Ukrainian. No pity, no sympathy ... Motto: where it’s easier to live, the soup is tastier, the plate is bigger.
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 29 July 2015 21: 17
      +1
      As for me, this bloke is the same Austrian as the Ukrainian,
      did you actually read the article carefully? it says that he left at 19 years old.
  29. agbykov
    agbykov 29 July 2015 22: 00
    0
    Unfortunately, this factual impossibility of losing / losing Ukrainian citizenship is also related to the inability to apply for a residence permit or simplified acquisition of Russian citizenship for native speakers of the Russian language (there, renunciation of previous citizenship is a mandatory requirement).
    1. commander
      commander 30 July 2015 00: 42
      0
      Everything is possible. I have a wife, a citizen of Ukraine, now awaiting permission of a residence permit. Temporary registration is also not a problem. The problem was only with a permanent residence permit, it is necessary for a residence permit. In military unit, naturally, no one will prescribe it (as a citizen of another state, especially since we have strained relations with this state). Registered with relatives. And so go through the doctors, stand in line. Renunciation of citizenship of Ukraine, too, as we were told in the FMS is not complicated, a letter of renunciation of Ukrainian citizenship. In principle, that’s all, where at least somehow Ukraine is mentioned in this process. I don’t know why you have problems. With God we all go the right way).
      Perhaps there are several factors that play in the plus ... I am a citizen of the Russian Federation, I have been married and married for more than three years.
  30. abrede
    abrede 29 July 2015 22: 31
    0
    Link to the studio.
  31. Dmitry Desnyansky
    Dmitry Desnyansky 30 July 2015 06: 53
    0
    Withdrawal from 404 citizenship is impossible, which creates a problem with obtaining Russian citizenship for Russian speakers, and in the near future for all applicants. Being a Russian in two ascending lines, he did not even apply for RNR. I flew to Kiev to apply for the state program "Compatriots", came back and found out that they had a ride here too.
  32. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 30 July 2015 07: 48
    0
    Some idiocy! Who makes people return to the outskirts? You live in Austria and live for yourself. Nostalgia torments - go to Russia, take a rest ...
    Brad!
    After all, you can tolerate a little, until everything is settled on the outskirts.
  33. provincial
    provincial 30 July 2015 09: 11
    0
    It turns out the citizenship of Ukraine, like a stigma of a slave on his forehead, for life?
  34. Swed
    Swed 30 July 2015 12: 34
    0
    Such dances with a tambourine regarding the renunciation of citizenship exist not only in Ukraine, just the current situation in this country, this issue has greatly aggravated.
  35. Kirill
    Kirill 30 July 2015 12: 56
    0
    I'd love to read the continuation of the adventures of the Austrian Ukrainian (or vice versa?). Was it possible or not to part with the citizenship of Ukraine? And how?
  36. chelovektapok
    chelovektapok 30 July 2015 16: 28
    0
    "Free" maydauny are now slaves. Even those who are overseers are also slaves. America bought up in bulk, like blacks once. If you have not yet understood, it is because of stupidity. And the slaves "white masters" are released only to the next world! EU integration and lace panties it was "cheese in a mousetrap". All! There will be no second-hand entry into the EU! There will be a slave and business market on the border with Russia. In all colors and smells! Jumpers should not be rich all the more .... Already it comes to not very zombified.
  37. GRIG
    GRIG 31 July 2015 09: 23
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    As for me, this bloke is the same Austrian as the Ukrainian. No pity, no sympathy ... Motto: where it’s easier to live, the soup is tastier, the plate is bigger.

    How lovely)))
    And Maidan is not jumping for it?)
    Was it not these "euro values", in the form of a carrot in front of donkeys, that the coup organizers were shaking, planting dill like suckers?
    The only difference is that the musician did not drink beer in his youth in the gateway to the anecdotes about maskals, but filed scales. And his "soup is tastier and the plate is more" earned, and not "jumped out".

    "No pity, no sympathy" just in time for jumping kaklam, little capable in reality, but with exorbitant ambitions, greed and, most importantly, envy for those who have achieved at least something in life themselves, and did not expect free cookies.