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Ten dollars a barrel?

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Experts at Morgan Stanley Research predict the coming fall in world oil prices. The recession, according to analysts, may be the worst in the last 30, and even 45 years. In the Western media, the capacious noun “The Crash” is replicated on the front pages. The fall in demand and prices will contribute to the growth of stocks of "black gold" in the United States, and then entering the Iranian market. In Russia, with its raw materials economy, the ruble may collapse.



Tom Randall (Tom Randall) website «Bloomberg» warns: oil prices may fall to the lowest level in the last 45 years. Or maybe even lower.

Morgan Stanley experts predict a price level reminiscent of the 1986 performance of the year: price cuts will remind "some of the worst oil slumps over the past three decades," the author points out. Experts at Morgan Stanley gave a very pessimistic outlook for oil prices in 2015.

Banking experts remind the public that, until now, confidence in the recovery of the oil market has been rather high. This confidence was supported by four predictable factors. However, the forecast came true only on 75%, and this is what prompted analysts to "pessimism."

Earlier it was predicted that the demand for "black gold" would grow. Theoretically, the reason for the growth in demand was to be just the fall in prices. Cheap oil means cheap production, cheap transportation and an increase in the number of road trips in the summer. And so it happened: despite the slowdown in the Chinese economy, global demand has indeed increased - by about 1,6 million barrels per day, on average, compared to the 2014 of the year.

It was also predicted a reduction in investment in oil production and production. And so it happened: low oil prices forced energy companies to cut all sorts of expenses. Since October 2014, the number of active drilling rigs in the world has decreased by about 42 percent. More 70.000 oil workers lost jobs. According to estimates, in the 2015 year, oil companies will reduce their capital expenditures by approximately $ 129 billion.

In such circumstances, the value of shares of oil companies should remain low. Yes, it did: the papers of major oil companies are trading "near 35-year lows."

Finally, a drop in oil supplies was predicted, against which the market will then recover. But in practice, the opposite happened: the total supply increased, despite the reduction in supply from the United States. Analysts point out here at the negative policy of OPEC (talking about exceeding its own quotas. - O. Ch.).

Because of such a significant discrepancy between previous forecasts and reality, and theories with the practice of analytics at Morgan Stanley Research were at a crossroads.

On the one hand, Morgan Stanley adhere to its initial hypothesis: prices can and grow - mainly because OPEC has no more free capacity, and oil storage tanks are full to capacity. On the other hand, Iran is about to enter the game. In addition, the situation in Libya may improve. Finally, analysts at Morgan Stanley admit that production in the US "can also be revived."

At the same time, experts are convinced that the recession that has begun does not have any prospects for a quick recovery, as it was before. Therefore, a new recession may last for three or even more years and be "much worse than in the 1986 year."

Recall that the reason for the fall in world oil prices in 1986 was the most common overproduction of "black gold". At the beginning of the 1980's the average price of a barrel of oil was about $ 36, and in 1986, its extreme values ​​fell below $ 10 (in nominal value; in real, that is, adjusted for inflation, 1986 should be multiplied by about two). The average value in 1986 was about 14,5 dollars per barrel of Brent. In 1987-1989 (years of "perestroika" in Russia) the price was kept at the level of 14 with a tail - 18 with a tail of dollars per barrel. In the span of 1990-1999. average values made up from 23,19 to 16,56 dollars per barrel. As a result, exporting countries suffered the largest financial losses. The USSR and its market Russia suffered from an inadequate inflow of solid "oil and currency". Some experts believe that low oil prices contributed to the collapse of the USSR, as well as crisis phenomena in the Russian Federation during the Yeltsin era. The rise in oil prices began in the first year of Vladimir Putin’s rule. Fast growth was typical for 2004-2008, then prices began to fall again due to the global financial crisis. But the fall was not as critical as it is today. And already with 2010, a new rise in prices began - rapid. However, in 2014, it was replaced by a new recession. Recession, which experts tend to consider protracted.

What to expect in this situation, the Russian economy?

RBC cites the opinion of the director for emerging markets “Morgan Stanley Investment Management” Ruchira Sharma. He believes that a long winter expects a Russian economy dependent on oil and gas.

In an interview with Bloomberg, Sharma noted that investors who returned to Russia after the collapse of the stock market in the 2014 year began to leave again. The reason for the departure was the next drop in oil prices and the weakening of the ruble. For example, the Russian asset management division of the French bank BNP Paribas was sold, the Markton Mobius Templeton Russia and East European Fund was liquidated.

An additional blow to prices, and hence to the oil sector of the Russian economy, and its budget, is Iran’s behavior. Sanctions on him have not yet been lifted, but the statements of his officials have already swayed world prices for "black gold".

In mid-July in the press appeared Statement by Mohsen Kamsari, Director for International Relations of the Iranian National Oil Company NIOC. He said that the IRI, as stipulated by the terms of the deal with international intermediaries, intends to at least restore its share in the European market - in the amount from 42 to 43%, which the republic had before the imposition of sanctions. Earlier, the same Kamsari declared that Iran was ready to immediately begin deliveries of crude oil to Europe.

In mid-January 2015, Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov, speaking at the Gaidar Forum, saidthat budget revenues in 2015 year, with the average price of oil 50 dollars per barrel will fall by 3 trillion. rubles.

Olga Tanas (Olga Tanas) in «Bloomberg» cites the opinions of several experts on the future of the Russian economy.

For the economy, the author writes, which exists solely on the basis of the price of crude oil, another recession in the world oil market may mean the longest crisis in the past two decades.

The collapse of prices "will test for strength" the optimism of President Vladimir Putin, who recently said that Russia has left behind the worst stage of the economic crisis. The oil recession will put pressure on the “regime”, the author writes, and on the eve of the early parliamentary elections next September.

“Next year, Russia will face recession or stagnation,” if the price of oil is about 50 $, says Dmitry Polevoy, an economist at ING, a Moscow-based financial corporation, to whom Olga Tanas addressed via e-mail. As a result, according to Polevoy, “it will probably be necessary to cut budget spending even more, put off part of military spending and use what remains in the Reserve Fund.” The decline in oil prices also means that Russia may come to the need to receive "financing" from the National Welfare Fund.

“For Russia, a steady further decline in oil prices is likely to further weaken the ruble and undermine the recovery of the economy and government finances,” say experts at Moody's Investors Service in a recent report. The importance of oil in the Russian economy is great: after all, according to estimates by Moody's Investors Service, from 17 to 25 percent of gross domestic product is associated with the energy industry.

"Exit from the recession is postponed until the 2017 of the year," analysts of Sberbank, led by Yulia Tseplyaeva, concisely predict.

Some Russian analysts do not believe in gloomy forecasts.

“The fall in oil prices to 10 dollars per barrel as a forecast, I would not take seriously at all. If only because 10 dollars in 1986 and 10 dollars are completely different money now, ”the newspaper said. "Sight" Valery Polkhovsky, Senior Analyst, Forex Club Group.

“It’s bad to imagine how the imbalance between supply and demand, even in 2,5 a million barrels, according to Morgan Stanley, with global consumption of 93 a million barrels per day can provoke a drop in oil prices by 90%,” says Polkhovsky. - Moreover, who and how will produce and sell oil at such prices ?! Shale miners seem to be brave, but with the average annual price of 55 dollars, they have already reduced drilling volumes by 50%. Most of their shares are listed on 50-60% below 2014 of the year. ”

“In 2015, the average annual price of oil will be around 55, but a decline to 50 is possible. If we consider a longer horizon, for example, two or three years, then we expect that oil will cost around 70, ”predicts Polkhovsky.

The weighted forecast was issued by Sergey Pravosudov, director general of the National Energy Institute. However, he does not exclude the “oil shock” scenario for the Russian economy (price falls to 30 dollars per barrel).

“Theoretically, of course, anything is possible,” he said. "Free Press". - But in the long term, the price of oil in the $ 30-40 area per barrel can hardly last more than a year. During this time, low-profit oil production projects will be knocked out of the market. First of all in the same USA. This means a decrease in supply in the market, which automatically corrects upward demand. As a result, a new equilibrium price point will be reached. ”

They tried to calm the Russians and at the government level. True, with reservations and verbal "fog".

The head of the Ministry of Economic Development, Alexei Ulyukayev, said on the Russia 24 channel that the ruble will be “within its fundamental values” if “no force majeure circumstances connected with any additional turbulence in the global capital market interfere , with non-fulfillment by sovereign borrowers of their obligations, sovereign or corporate defaults. " However, he further noted, wrote "Lenta.ru"that the main factors determining the ruble exchange rate are the cost of oil and the balance of payments: “We see that there is a decline now: now 54 is the current price of a barrel of our oil, the average annual is 57. If the dynamics are the same - 57 will remain or so, then the exchange rate ratios will be approximately the same as we are seeing today. ”

In short, this is an open official admission that the ruble in Russia is “converted” only into oil. There can be no other way - with the raw material distortion of the economy, “embedded” in the world economy with oil and gas.

In conclusion, we present the opinion of the leading analyst of the National Energy Security Fund, Igor Yushkov, who answered the questions "Free Press". As we see it, Yushkov clearly and briefly described the possible financial consequences of the new collapse in prices for the citizens of the country. Quote:

“As stated in the government, the Russian budget is balanced if the barrel of oil costs 3700 rubles. This parameter is achieved under two conditions - when oil is sold at $ 100 per barrel, and the dollar - 37 rubles. It is clear that in the case of the value of the “barrel” below $ 55 (which we are already seeing today), the rate should be more than 70 rubles per dollar (now almost 60). As a matter of fact, there are no other options. If the revenue item of the budget laid the figure 3700 RUB., With a falling oil price has to devalue the ruble.

The main victims in this stories there will be a Russian population whose standard of living will decrease significantly. If you import a lot of consumer goods, it is natural that with the weakening of the ruble they will increase in price. If you do not offer an equivalent replacement, people will have to abandon the purchase of some of the goods. ”


To refuse to purchase a part of the goods sounds optimistic. We will assume that the crisis in Russia will come only when citizens refuse to purchase goods at all.
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  1. andrei332809
    andrei332809 29 July 2015 06: 22
    +27
    stir up the revolution among the Arabs and the Cathars, and there will be a rise.
    something about the Husids has not been heard for a long time
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 29 July 2015 06: 27
      +10
      Quote: andrei332809
      stir up the revolution among the Arabs and the Cathars, and there will be a rise.
      something about the Husids has not been heard for a long time

      wait, namesake, this is already beginning ... Turkey is already in "business", there may not be a blaze ...
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 29 July 2015 06: 44
        +15
        -10 $ per barrel?
        -Easy.
        If only the world economy will not tear up, but it will not.
        So gentlemen, comrades, buy iron kettles instead of electric ones with a fixed service life.
        And iron cups instead of porcelain.
        Would be younger would move from city to village.
        1. inkass_98
          inkass_98 29 July 2015 07: 03
          +5
          Quote: mirag2
          So gentlemen, comrades, buy iron kettles

          Yes, something prices bite them. And there won’t be much difference, although it’s cheaper for me to boil water in an enameled kettle (there’s no meter, gas for a family of 4 people costs 201,5 rubles a month, and we give electricity for 1000 rubles), but it’s hot here turn on gas, on the street much more 30 laughing .
          We will have to wait for the autumn-winter, as it gets colder, and we will switch to gas.
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 29 July 2015 07: 34
          +11
          Quote: mirag2
          -10 $ per barrel?
          -Easy.

          Gas prices will be at 6 rubles per liter ............ probably winked
          1. EGOrkka
            EGOrkka 29 July 2015 07: 38
            +6
            Gas prices and in the school are growing !!!! (now)
          2. anip
            anip 29 July 2015 07: 51
            +30
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Gas prices will be at 6 rubles per liter ............ probably

            Will be. But not in Russia.
            1. Yars
              Yars 30 July 2015 20: 55
              0
              and you ask anip what prices in Europe today for a start, and then think deeply whether to drive liberal lies on Russia!
          3. ATATA
            ATATA 29 July 2015 07: 55
            +55
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Gas prices will be at 6 rubles per liter ............ probably

            No laughing
            Worldwide, gasoline is made from oil; in Russia gasoline is made from dollars.
            So we are waiting for a rise in price.
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 29 July 2015 09: 15
              +28
              Quote: ATATA
              Worldwide, gasoline is made from oil; in Russia gasoline is made from dollars.

              No, comrade, economic wise men in the power say that they make gas from excise taxes!
              This know-how has no analogues in the world.
              1. THANK YOU ALL
                THANK YOU ALL 29 July 2015 10: 13
                0
                Quote: Stroporez
                No, comrade, economic wise men in the power say that they make gas from excise taxes!
                This know-how has no analogues in the world.

                I’m eager to hear your concept of the development of the state of Russia based on current realities.
                1. ancient
                  ancient 29 July 2015 15: 52
                  +7
                  Quote: THANK YOU ALL
                  I’m eager to hear your concept of the development of the state of Russia based on current realities.


                  If you can still own Russian letters, and not "urya-patriotic", then here's the freshest M. Delyagin's article is titled "Russia at the Bottom. They Will Knock From Below in Autumn" wassat
                  It's about everything .. and about the concept, and about the "state" and about .... (laugh) about .. "development" wassat

                  http://www.mk.ru/economics/2015/07/22/rossiya-na-dne-osenyu-snizu-postuchat.html
              2. Just cause
                Just cause 29 July 2015 17: 35
                +2
                Quote: Stroporez
                No, comrade, economic wise men in the power say that they make gas from excise taxes!
                This know-how has no analogues in the world.

                It’s time to sell oil and gas for rubles.
                I just don’t understand what our rulers are thinking.
                1. Uncle Joe
                  Uncle Joe 29 July 2015 18: 04
                  +1
                  Quote: Just cause
                  It’s time to sell oil and gas for rubles.
                  I just don’t understand what our rulers are thinking.
                  About. how can they then get these rubles laughing
                  1. VseDoFeNi
                    VseDoFeNi 29 July 2015 18: 16
                    +1
                    Quote: Uncle Joe
                    About. how can they then get these rubles

                    Today, under Putin, people in Russia live as RICH as they never lived in the foreseeable past. Vivid evidence of this is the courtyards of Russian cities, clogged with cars, many of which were bought with overpayment on credit. This indicates that people have money to overpay and the lack of intelligence, so as not to overpay.
                    1. Uncle Joe
                      Uncle Joe 29 July 2015 20: 03
                      +3
                      Quote: VseDoFeNi
                      Today, under Putin, people in Russia live as RICH as they never lived in the foreseeable past. Vivid evidence of this is the courtyards of Russian cities, clogged with cars, many of which were bought with overpayment on credit. This indicates that people have money to overpay and the lack of intelligence, so as not to overpay.
                      Well, finally, otherwise I already waited for this from time to time to the place and not to the place of the repeated text.

                      Here is a yard full of cars (we smile and wave)
                      1. VseDoFeNi
                        VseDoFeNi 30 July 2015 17: 47
                        -1
                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        Well, finally, otherwise I already waited for this from time to time to the place and not to the place of the repeated text.

                        You again learn the clowning for the loot of the State Department. laughing
                        https://yandex.ru/images/search?text=%D0%BF%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BA%

                        D0%B8%20%D0%B2%D0%BE%20%D0%B4%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%85
                        Here a lot of pictures of parking in the yards. wink
                        Let's see a couple.

                      2. cast iron
                        cast iron 1 August 2015 09: 30
                        +3
                        A citizen is a Putin propagandist, and in your photo there are only 55 cars in the whole yard. And then out of these 55 30% of the real car junk is very ushatanny.

                        Can you tell me how many apartments are in this very yard? And then take and calculate the percentage.

                        And also, noodles, not everyone had cars in the USSR, but most had apartments. And now under Putin you will never buy an apartment. Unless of course a thief.
            2. EGOrkka
              EGOrkka 29 July 2015 16: 47
              0
              in PSSh gasoline-4 dollars per gallon became and was 2.6. hopefully you will calculate .... (1 gallon-3.8l)
          4. Constructor1
            Constructor1 29 July 2015 08: 20
            +31
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Gas prices will be at 6 rubles per liter ............ probably


            Dreams dreams .. Russia is a mystery country. Oil goes up and gas goes up, oil goes down and gas goes up again laughing

            I won’t be surprised if, at $ 10 per barrel, ours will catch up with the price up to 60 rub / liter, but our poor oil workers need to somehow compensate for their losses wassat
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 29 July 2015 09: 52
              +15
              It is absolutely obvious that all budgetary and corporate financial losses of the Russian Federation will be compensated by the domestic market, i.e. at the expense of the population by raising taxes (for the most part hidden), raising the cost of goods and tariffs.
              Certainly to fill the budget into which zp are driven officials and security officials, the ruble will be lowered, and areas not related to the direct administration of the country and the maintenance of the current government will mercilessly cut, cut secretly, while propaganda zombies will intensify in the duroscope.
              The era of "great stability" is coming to its logical conclusion.
              And what it will be remembered for, it will be remembered for the collapse and privatization of the Unified Energy System, the ruthless exploitation of natural resources, the increase in the number of billionaires and millionaires, the vertical increase in the number of officials, corruption, embezzlement, hpp, the flows of migrants that have flooded our cities, zurabovy and Serdyukov, the Olympics, the increase the number of credit vehicles in the population, well, the only random bright spot is the Crimea.

              PS. almost 16 years ago the Kursk submarine died heroically. It was not even the epic words "she drowned" that were worried, but more the fact who was called to help the dying nuclear-powered ship - these were the Norwegians and other Scandinavians.
              And now a lot of time has passed, "fat" financially well-fed years, but in the event of a repeated tragedy, we will still have nothing to save the sailors with.
              This is the "import substitution" for Captain Kolesnikov ...
              1. THANK YOU ALL
                THANK YOU ALL 29 July 2015 10: 05
                -1
                Quote: Stroporez
                It is absolutely obvious that all budgetary and corporate financial losses of the Russian Federation will be offset by the domestic market

                And tell me dear Stroporez what you offer SPECIFICALLYto make a difference?
                If possible, please do without revolutionary demagoguery. hi
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 29 July 2015 10: 28
                  +12
                  Want to summarize an article? wink
                  But in general there is nothing to tell here, everything is said before us, read the works of classics, because nothing has changed over the past hundred years ..... hi
                  “Lenin says that“ the most important issue of any revolution is the question of state power. ”(See Vol. XXI, p. 142) In the hands of which class or which classes power is concentrated; which class or which classes should be overthrown, which class or what classes should take power - this is "the most important question of any revolution."

                  The main strategic slogans of the party, which remain valid for the entire period of one stage or another of the revolution, cannot be called the main slogans if they do not rely entirely and completely on this cardinal thesis of Lenin. "
                  I.V. Stalin. (Full collection of the score 9)
                  1. THANK YOU ALL
                    THANK YOU ALL 29 July 2015 10: 51
                    +2
                    Quote: Stroporez
                    But in general there is nothing to tell here, everything is said before us, read the works of classics

                    Quote: Stroporez
                    "Lenin says that" the most important question of any revolution is the question of state power "

                    In addition to the revolution, are there any other options?
                    I no longer want the shot of revolution.
                    And then no matter how the revolution, so Russia is again in the ass.
                    That in 1917, under the slogan, peace came to the people, factories, workers, the land came to the peasants, and until Stalin strangled Lenin's like-minded people in the camps, and to whom and the ice ax, no order was visible on the head, that in 1991, under the good slogans, sausage, jeans and freedom to the people.
                    You offer a specific program!
                    Why do you need power?
                    1. Sling cutter
                      Sling cutter 29 July 2015 11: 35
                      +5
                      Quote: THANK YOU ALL
                      In addition to the revolution, are there any other options?

                      There are no other options!
                      The whole question is where does it come from "from below" or "from above"
                      "the lower classes cannot" .... "the upper classes do not want" ...
                      Quote: THANK YOU ALL
                      That in 1917, under the slogan, peace came to the people, factories for workers, the land came to the peasants, and until Stalin strangled Lenin's like-minded people in the camps, and to whom and the ice ax there was no order

                      stop practicing idle talk.
                      Stalin was and remains a Marxist-Leninist, and, moreover, an active inspirer and participant in the preparation and conduct of the October Revolution!
                      everything else about the division of the Bolsheviks into Leninists and Stalinists is bourgeois-Goebbels nonsense.
                      Are you apparently familiar with the works of Dr. Goebbels? wink refresh your memory at your leisure, everything is in the public domain yes hi
                      1. THANK YOU ALL
                        THANK YOU ALL 29 July 2015 11: 49
                        +2
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        There are no other options!

                        And preferably with mass executions, yes !? laughing
                        Yes, full of options!
                        World experience is very rich.
                        It’s only for people like you that wedge light on Marxism, Leninism converged.
                        The Marxists are Leninists crap already once, the Russian people will not give a second chance.
                        And what was there in 1917 for the true Marxists that the representatives of the people were 70% Huss?
                        Let these Marxis representatives in their native linguistic environment build a bright future in Israel ..
                        Yes, it seems to me that there representatives of people like you will quickly determine where they should be. laughing
                      2. VseDoFeNi
                        VseDoFeNi 29 July 2015 16: 53
                        -2
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        There are no other options!

                        There is such a thing as Evolution.
                        As for the Revolution, prepare for civil war and devastation.

                        Quote: Stroporez
                        "the lower classes cannot" .... "the upper classes do not want" ...

                        This is delusional manipulation. Revolution is an Anglo-Saxon technology to destroy its opponents from the inside. Successful technology, I must admit.

                        Quote: Stroporez
                        Stalin was and remains a Marxist-Leninist

                        Stalin was not a Marxist, but Stalinist. A corrupt brainless communists in the last century TWICE destroyed our country - in 1917 and in 1991.
                  2. ancient
                    ancient 29 July 2015 16: 03
                    +5
                    Quote: Stroporez
                    Want to summarize an article?


                    Do you think it is easy for them now and are they satisfied with the 5 for "public statements calling for the violation of the country's integrity"? wassat

                    No dear, you are mistaken wink Duma United Russia wanted to plant for 10 years for anti-Russian propaganda

                    publication time: July 24, 2015 11:36
                    last updated: July 24, 2015 12:13
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                    Duma United Russia wanted to plant for 10 years for anti-Russian propaganda
                    The State Duma is preparing a draft law introducing criminal liability for anti-Russian propaganda, distributed also through the media, the document prescribes punishment from one to 10 years in prison. wassat

                    Here it is in IKHNEM fellow , it is immediately clear that they "remembered" - the 58th article is "Stalinist" and the 70th article is "Brezhnev".

                    Not the 37th year .. you speak wassat
                  3. VseDoFeNi
                    VseDoFeNi 29 July 2015 18: 38
                    -2
                    Quote: Stroporez
                    “Lenin says that“ the most important issue of any revolution is the question of state power. ”(See Vol. XXI, p. 142) In the hands of which class or which classes power is concentrated; which class or which classes should be overthrown, which class or what classes should take power - this is "the most important question of any revolution."

                    It seems to me that the main question is, in whose interests the Communists TWICE in the last century destroyed our country - in 1917 and in 1991 ???

                    And another question, why would the blatant Saxons become the chief creator of MRAKSism and the congresses of the RSDLP?
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                3. Mark Alekseevich
                  Mark Alekseevich 29 July 2015 10: 53
                  +8
                  Quote: THANK YOU ALL
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  It is absolutely obvious that all budgetary and corporate financial losses of the Russian Federation will be offset by the domestic market

                  And tell me dear Stroporez what you offer SPECIFICALLYto make a difference?
                  If possible, please do without revolutionary demagoguery. hi


                  Central Bank - must belong to the state. Central Bank - must print to give out money as much as our economy needs. Having developed the economy, we will not be dependent on oil prices.
                  Therefore, we need a referendum on the new Constitution.


                  The monetary policy pursued by the Central Bank of the Russian Federation is, in fact, a continuation of the policy of the US Federal Reserve System, the expert said. "Our Central Bank prints rubles only for the purchase of foreign currency, while currency regulation is virtually completely absent, and we are de facto part of the American financial system." "Therefore, all the shocks that occur there, automatically reflect on us, and in a multiply intensified form, since it is much more difficult to survive a crisis on the periphery than in the center," said S. Glazyev... According to him, instead of building its own monetary and financial market, developing its fixing mechanisms from internal sources, the Russian Central Bank "folded its hands and is simply a branch of the US Federal Reserve." "This is terribly harmful for the economy. We have an unequal exchange. Our commercial structures borrow there at 8-10% per annum, and we give our foreign exchange reserves at 2-3%. Only on such scissors, our financial system loses 30-40 billion dollars annually ", - said S. Glazyev. He added that with such a monetary policy, the Russian real sector has no sources for long-term development: there is no long-term credit, there are no refinancing mechanisms. “Without this, we will not be able to get on our feet, because we will all the time depend on the inflow of money from abroad,” the expert concluded.

                  1. THANK YOU ALL
                    THANK YOU ALL 29 July 2015 11: 01
                    0
                    Quote: Mark Alekseevich
                    Central Bank - must belong to the state.

                    So...
                    And to whom should the state belong?
                    Here somewhere Stroporez already raised this question ..
                    Yes, only so far he has not given a clear answer.
                    1. Sling cutter
                      Sling cutter 29 July 2015 11: 21
                      +8
                      Quote: THANK YOU ALL
                      And to whom should the state belong?

                      Quote: THANK YOU ALL
                      And in whose hands should the state be?

                      I say specifically!
                      Power is to the people!
                      Land to the peasants!
                      Factories and factory workers!
                      Now, I hope, understand?
                      Trolling now makes no sense to me, otherwise a question may arise for you about the adequacy of perception of the world around you wink lol
                      PS. The bowels must also belong to the People.
                      1. THANK YOU ALL
                        THANK YOU ALL 29 July 2015 11: 29
                        -3
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        I say specifically!
                        Power is to the people!
                        Land to the peasants!
                        Factories and factory workers!
                        Now, I hope, understand?

                        It’s not specific, it’s slogans.
                        Russia has already heard these slogans from the "classics", and everyone knows what has come of it. The classics are already in the grave now there is no one to ask for that ass.
                        Have a second try?
                        ps
                        And you do not tell me why the representatives of the people in the Central Committee of the CPSU (B) were 70% by nationality GUSSKY?
                    2. ermolai
                      ermolai 29 July 2015 11: 42
                      +3
                      Quote: THANK YOU ALL
                      And to whom should the state belong?

                      and to the king the priest. if there is only one master, then there is only one order, but everyone around you obeys and obeys, otherwise the head is off your shoulders.
                  2. THANK YOU ALL
                    THANK YOU ALL 29 July 2015 11: 17
                    -1
                    Quote: Mark Alekseevich
                    Therefore, we need a referendum on the new Constitution.

                    Where can I find the draft new constitution?
                    1. Andrey Yuryevich
                      Andrey Yuryevich 29 July 2015 11: 26
                      +4
                      Quote: THANK YOU ALL
                      Quote: Mark Alekseevich
                      Therefore, we need a referendum on the new Constitution.

                      Where can I find the draft new constitution?

                      while apparently in the embassy of yusei, our not to hear ... request
                  3. Andrey Yuryevich
                    Andrey Yuryevich 29 July 2015 11: 24
                    0
                    Quote: Mark Alekseevich
                    Central Bank - must belong to the state.

                    HERE! short and to the point. continued use of bukoff is superfluous.
                  4. VseDoFeNi
                    VseDoFeNi 29 July 2015 17: 00
                    0
                    Quote: Mark Alekseevich
                    Central Bank - must belong to the state. Central Bank - must print to give out money as much as our economy needs. Having developed the economy, we will not be dependent on oil prices.

                    In addition, the banking system should be nationalized and benefit the entire people of Russia, and not a handful of Greforschilds.
                    Subsoil and strategic sectors of the economy should also be nationalized.
                    A ban on the free movement of capital should also be introduced.
                  5. VseDoFeNi
                    VseDoFeNi 29 July 2015 18: 41
                    0
                    Quote: Mark Alekseevich
                    Therefore, we need a referendum on the new Constitution.

                    I already gave here a link to the referendum site.
                    http://referendumrusnod.ru/
                4. wei
                  wei 29 July 2015 14: 22
                  +1
                  SPECIFICALLY

                  live by constitution
                  Article 75
                  1. The monetary unit in the Russian Federation is the ruble. Monetary issue is carried out exclusively by the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. Introduction and issue of other money in the Russian Federation are not allowed.
                  transfer all foreign exchange earnings to rubles or precious metals or to other tangible assets located on the territory of the Russian Federation
                  1. VseDoFeNi
                    VseDoFeNi 29 July 2015 17: 05
                    +1
                    Quote: wei
                    The introduction and issue of other money in the Russian Federation is not allowed.

                    Even as allowed. wink

                    2.2.3. Credit and money issues
                    It lies in the fact that every new loanprovided by the bank to the borrower, increases the national money supply, at least by the amount of the loan. In other words, A new bank loan is a credit issue of non-cash funds, or, as it is sometimes said, banks themselves create new money.


                    That is, moneylenders at the national expense create fake money for themselves and legalize them with the help of suckers taking loans.
              2. st25310
                st25310 29 July 2015 14: 53
                0
                Have you read Boris Mironov?
              3. rosarioagro
                rosarioagro 29 July 2015 15: 13
                +2
                Quote: Stroporez
                they were Norwegians and other Scandinavians.

                Well, the Norwegians also drilled a well on the Arctic shelf, along with the platform they called, nothing actually changed
            2. sherp2015
              sherp2015 29 July 2015 10: 08
              +6
              Quote: Designer 1
              I won’t be surprised if, at $ 10 per barrel, ours will catch up with the price up to 60 rub / liter, but our poor oil workers need to somehow compensate for their losses


              The oil industry as a strategic industry and especially oil refineries should be in the hands of the state.
              1. Constructor1
                Constructor1 29 July 2015 10: 22
                +9
                Quote: sherp2015
                The oil industry as a strategic industry and especially oil refineries should be in the hands of the state.

                And the state needs to be - not FROM people, and FOR of the people!
              2. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 29 July 2015 10: 40
                +8
                Quote: sherp2015
                The oil industry as a strategic industry and especially oil refineries should be in the hands of the state.

                Comrade, stop being mistaken.
                The only question is in whose hands the state itself should be.
                1. THANK YOU ALL
                  THANK YOU ALL 29 July 2015 10: 54
                  -1
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  Comrade, stop being mistaken.
                  The only question is in whose hands the state itself should be.

                  So...
                  And in whose hands should the state be?
                  Develop your thought dear comrade ...
            3. cast iron
              cast iron 1 August 2015 09: 31
              0
              Yes, everything is simple. The United States and Europe mainly buy oil. So their price depends on oil prices in proportion. But in Russia they sell oil. This means that the cheaper the oil, the less income the owners of oil towers have.
          5. SAMIKHALYCH
            SAMIKHALYCH 29 July 2015 08: 23
            +2
            Ummm .. give me an address? I’ll send Scotch and a button :) :) :)
          6. atalef
            atalef 29 July 2015 08: 31
            +9
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: mirag2
            -10 $ per barrel?
            -Easy.

            Gas prices will be at 6 rubles per liter ............ probably winked

            Sanya hi, on the next branch I remembered you, in a bitch ...
            There will be no 10 bucks a barrel, but it may well drop to 35 (this is likely) though if Iran goes dumping, then all the cards are open.
            At 30-35 bucks per barrel, the ruble will fall somewhere to 80 per bucks, the Central Bank will not let it fall anymore (Otherwise, people will begin to murmur - to put it mildly)
            those. at 35 (let’s say dollars per barrel), a dollar of 80 rubles, gold and foreign exchange reserves will be consumed in 1.5 years (including the NWF), but Putin’s mentality is unlikely to bring it so that he won’t be left without a pill, i.e. (which doesn’t mean at all, what they will use is the mentality of the nest egg)
            those. at these prices (35)
            The retirement age will be raised next year, the military budget will be cut, the compensation will be the same, and the shopping mall will refuse the project of Novorossia. if additional sanctions are introduced in addition to oil prices, then it’s not possible to predict anything at all.
            Do you want to argue again?
            1. EGOrkka
              EGOrkka 29 July 2015 09: 56
              +2
              atalef
              The retirement age will be raised next year, the military budget will be cut, the compensation will be the same, and the shopping mall will refuse the project of Novorossia. if additional sanctions are introduced in addition to oil prices, then it’s not possible to predict anything at all.
              Do you want to argue again?


              ...... the dollar until the world currency, while it suits many ..... But the game with energy prices promises other options ...... Everything has a limit !!!!
              For example: the rejection of the dollar in international trading and the transition to the RYUZ (ruble-yuan-gold), while the budget in Russia and China will stabilize, and in the PSSH, on the contrary, there will be a budget deficit hole in which, not just to pull the Cynical Bandera project, but it will be expensive to maintain military bases!
              1. Dali
                Dali 29 July 2015 10: 46
                +1
                Quote: EGOrkka
                For example: abandonment of the dollar in international bidding and the transition to the RSE (ruble-yuan-gold), ...


                Yes, damn it’s time already ... Brixes have already made their bank. It is not clear what pull? belay

                Or the powers that be are hoping to negotiate with the west ?! belay
                Eperny Babai, how many times have agreed ... how much is possible, but ... !!!
                1. VseDoFeNi
                  VseDoFeNi 29 July 2015 18: 26
                  +1
                  Quote: Dali
                  Brixes have already made their bank. It is not clear what pull?

                  The authorized capital of which is nominated in USD !!! wink

                  Do not rush, uncle, everything has its time. The inertia is large in the system.
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 29 July 2015 18: 56
                    +1
                    Quote: VseDoFeNi
                    Quote: Dali
                    Brixes have already made their bank. It is not clear what pull?

                    The authorized capital of which is nominated in USD !!! wink

                    Do not rush, uncle, everything has its time. The inertia is large in the system.

                    how much is its authorized capital - 100bn bucks? \
                    IMF - more than 500 billion.
                    And this is only the IMF, which in no way is neither the basis of the global banking system, nor even secondary
                    there are 26 banks in the world with registered capital of more 1 trillion dollars

                    Position Country Company Consolidated Assets
                    (billion US dollars)
                    1 Flag of the United Kingdom.svg United Kingdom Royal Bank of Scotland 3
                    2 Flag of Germany.svg Germany Deutsche Bank 3
                    3 Flag of the United Kingdom.svg United Kingdom Barclays 2
                    4 Flag of France.svg France BNP Paribas 2 891
                    5 Flag of France.svg France Crédit Agricole 2
                    6 Flag of Switzerland.svg Switzerland UBS 1
                    7 Flag of the United States.svg USA JPMorgan Chase 1
                    8 Flag of France.svg France Société Générale 1
                    9 Flag of Japan.svg Japan The Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi UFJ 1
                    10 Flag of the United States.svg USA Bank of America 1


                    and 15 over trillion.
                    Well, the largest are more than 3 trillion bucks.
                    1. VseDoFeNi
                      VseDoFeNi 29 July 2015 20: 23
                      +1
                      Quote: atalef
                      how much is its authorized capital - 100 billion dollars?

                      Once again - $ 100 billion. wink Not rubles, not RMB, not Tugriks, but DOLLARS.
                      1. atalef
                        atalef 29 July 2015 20: 47
                        +1
                        Quote: VseDoFeNi
                        Once again - $ 100 billion. Not rubles, not yuan, not Tugriks, but DOLLARS

                        Dust
                        Irish Royal Bank - 3 trillion, I can write another 26, with assets of more than 1 trillion laughing
                        Private, mind the banks laughing
                      2. VseDoFeNi
                        VseDoFeNi 30 July 2015 05: 43
                        +1
                        Quote: atalef
                        Irish Royal Bank - 3 trillion, I can write another 26, with assets of more than 1 trillion

                        The quantity, in this case, does not matter. In this case, it matters NOMINAL. wink

                        When I read textbooks on macroeconomics, I am reminded of a lecture course in psychiatry that I took when I was a medical student in my youth. Most often, I remember a classic type of mental impairment called "paralogical thinking". This is a way of reasoning as in the well-known anecdote: "the box is square, so it contains a round one. Once round, it means orange. Well, if it's orange, then it's an orange!"

                        Do not believe? Then I will give you a well-known life situation: in one country, for example, they produced a million cubes of industrial wood, cast a million tons of cast iron and rolled up a billion cans of stewed pork and condensed milk in case of starvation. Suppose all this costs a trillion dollars and makes up the gross national product. After a couple of decades, the GNP of this country increased fivefold. And exactly, four trillion erotic massages, manicures, pedicures, hair styling and makeup were done, and another trillion visitors were served in strip bars and topless cafes. Cast iron, condensed milk and stew were imported from abroad in wooden crates, which they used instead of wood, which they did not chop or saw themselves. Paid as usual in dollars. They printed a lot of dollars, so that was enough for everyone.




                        And then...


                        ... the quantity will already matter.
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              3. atalef
                atalef 29 July 2015 12: 58
                +8
                Quote: EGOrkka
                ...... the dollar as long as the world currency, as long as it suits many

                While it suits well, very many

                Quote: EGOrkka
                ..... But the game with energy prices promises other options ...... There is a limit to everything !!!!

                What are the games? There were games when a barrel gave 150 bucks - that was a divorce and a liter of gasoline (we cost) 2.3 bucks now the prices are more or less real.
                Quote: EGOrkka
                For example: the rejection of the dollar in international bidding and the transition to the RSE (ruble-yuan-gold),

                Well, stop believing in the RMB revolution, the RMB is NOT CONVERTIBLE and artificially lowered currency.
                Conclude an agreement with them and at the moment when (the CHINA Central Bank) makes a decision (and for a long time he cannot pull it, the whole world will press on him) to convert the RMB (which will take off here) --- the ruble-yuan relationship will die in the same second - or you have to go around the world.
                Quote: EGOrkka
                on the contrary, a budget deficit hole will appear in the NSS

                I won’t argue - look at China’s commodity turnover in dollars and its T-bills of America - and all your dreams will die without being born
                1. EGOrkka
                  EGOrkka 29 July 2015 13: 20
                  -1
                  atalef


                  1. ...... and to whom it is many ..... maybe Azerbaijan with Venisuela?
                  2. ....... direct, not covered, and covered too!
                  3. for example does not mean exactly so.
                  4. ..... look at the duty of the school of social sciences to the world. Or they, too, are not material and have a different nature.
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 29 July 2015 13: 29
                    +5
                    Quote: EGOrkka
                    1. ...... and to whom it is many ..... maybe Azerbaijan with Venisuela?

                    And what does not suit Azerbaijan?
                    By the way, Venezuela could long ago switch to trade in bolivars, but for some reason it wants dollars
                    Quote: EGOrkka
                    ....... direct, not covered, and covered too!

                    genetics or what?
                    Quote: EGOrkka
                    for example does not mean exactly so.

                    Details, please ?
                    Quote: EGOrkka
                    ..... look at the duty of the school of social sciences to the world. Or they are also not material and have a different nature

                    Material
                    100% of GDP (in the USA) i.e. their annual income
                    China -160% of GDP, that is, to repay debts, China should work for 6 months. more (roughly) than the states
                    Italy - 300% of GDP
                    Ethiopia -24% to GDP
                    How to live well in Ethiopia -))))))
                    1. EGOrkka
                      EGOrkka 29 July 2015 14: 11
                      0
                      atalef

                      1. .... the price does not suit
                      2. ...... "marked game"
                      3 ...... in more detail ..... this to Yatsenyuk - "he knows everything in advance" .... what PUTIN wants!
                      4. .......... Big debt is the problem of creditors !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            2. saber
              saber 29 July 2015 10: 20
              0
              May I argue? why would Iran dump? he is actually a member of OPEC, which was created to suppress such things. Yes, and the agreement is not yet in force and whether it will be acted upon is unknown (earlier there were agreements, abruptly the current ..., but they have sunk into oblivion ...)
              And in general, what does 35 per barrel affect only Russia? American, British oil companies will silently wipe away a tear, looking at the fall of their income? China will rush up, but does anyone need this?
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              2. atalef
                atalef 29 July 2015 10: 27
                +3
                Quote: Saber
                May I argue? why would Iran dump?


                A niche in the market needs to be returned, in the period of oil oversupply - only dumping
                Quote: Saber
                he is actually a member of OPEC, which was created to suppress such things.

                You are one of the last optimists who believe that ONEK works (although not yet Maduro)
                Quote: Saber
                And in general, what does 35 per barrel affect only Russia?

                No, but we are talking about Russia
                Quote: Saber
                American, British oil companies will silently wipe away a tear

                They are wiping and will continue to wipe - there is no way out, the sea is oil.
                Quote: Saber
                China will rush up, but does anyone need this?

                China will rush up. amid a 35% drop in the exchange (China (- you are an incorrigible optimist
                Best regards
                1. saber
                  saber 29 July 2015 14: 15
                  -1
                  Quote: atalef
                  A niche in the market needs to be returned, in the period of oil oversupply - only dumping

                  In the case of Iran, it does not seem to me to pass, Persians will be killed
                  Quote: atalef
                  You are one of the last optimists who believe that ONEK works (although not yet Maduro)

                  somehow ...
                  Quote: atalef
                  No, but we are talking about Russia

                  Russia is not the only country, and does not exist in a vacuum
                  Quote: atalef
                  They are wiping and will continue to wipe - there is no way out, the sea is oil.

                  whether oh ... demand is still GROWING.

                  Quote: atalef
                  China will rush up. amid a 35% drop in the exchange (China (- you are an incorrigible optimist

                  a fall of 35% amid an increase of 100%? It’s a sin not to be an optimist.
            3. Gomunkul
              Gomunkul 29 July 2015 12: 18
              +1
              if Iran goes dumping, then all the cards are open.
              They won’t give. Not for that, the Iranian nuclear program was curtailed to give him the opportunity to catch up. wink
              1. atalef
                atalef 29 July 2015 12: 51
                +1
                Quote: Gomunkul
                They won’t give. Not for that, the Iranian nuclear program was curtailed to give him the opportunity to catch up.
                And they won’t give it, the conjuncture is now such that at this price, he will have to sell a huge amount of oil, with rather modest incomes
                And during the time of sanctions in Iran, so many problems have accumulated that it will be difficult for ayatollahs in the absence of sanctions, and a low standard of living - spending money on the side.
              2. atalef
                atalef 29 July 2015 12: 51
                +1
                Quote: Gomunkul
                They won’t give. Not for that, the Iranian nuclear program was curtailed to give him the opportunity to catch up.
                And they won’t give it, the conjuncture is now such that at this price, he will have to sell a huge amount of oil, with rather modest incomes
                And during the time of sanctions in Iran, so many problems have accumulated that it will be difficult for ayatollahs in the absence of sanctions, and a low standard of living - spending money on the side.
                1. Gomunkul
                  Gomunkul 29 July 2015 15: 55
                  0
                  And during the time of sanctions in Iran, so many problems have accumulated that it will be difficult for ayatollahs in the absence of sanctions, and a low standard of living - spending money on the side.
                  The "Empire of Good" can throw even more problems for them in the form of color revolutions and an independent Kurdistan project. I believe that the United States temporarily caved in under the lifting of sanctions due to the strong Jewish lobby in the United States itself, whose goal was to eliminate the nuclear threat to Israel from Iran. hi
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          7. baron.nn
            baron.nn 29 July 2015 11: 22
            +3
            This is unlikely ... In our country, fuel prices will only rise ...
          8. sneg6680
            sneg6680 29 July 2015 16: 05
            +2
            it’s not annoying, but gasoline prices will also rise. Oil refining in our country has bought equipment abroad on loans taken in dollars, which are also getting more expensive!
          9. Hon
            Hon 31 July 2015 12: 23
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Gas prices will be at 6 rubles per liter ............ probably

            the ruble is falling, respectively, prices for everything, including gasoline, will rise. Have you seen the price tags in stores? and so they will grow up, and tariffs will rise. by the way in September, a wave of reductions
          10. cast iron
            cast iron 1 August 2015 09: 26
            0
            Dreaming is not harmful. In Russia, gasoline is only growing in price. Always growing. Regardless of oil prices.
        3. EGOrkka
          EGOrkka 29 July 2015 07: 54
          -2
          With a decrease in the price of oil and an increase in the price of gasoline in the secondary school speaks only about one dollar can collapse !!!!!! And this is fraught with some kind of adventure PSH !!!!
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 29 July 2015 07: 59
            +5
            Quote: EGOrkka
            With a decrease in the price of oil and an increase in the price of gasoline in the secondary school speaks only about one dollar can collapse !!!!!! And this is fraught with some kind of adventure PSH !!!!

            Can you imagine the USA in any other way than adventurous? In my USA, this is a complete adventure!
            1. atalef
              atalef 29 July 2015 12: 59
              +5
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              Can you imagine the USA in any other way than adventurous? In my USA, this is a complete adventure

              A gamble is when oil prices go down. and grow on gasoline
              1. EGOrkka
                EGOrkka 29 July 2015 13: 44
                -3
                atalef


                You are poorly informed gasoline prices are rising and in PSG! (Today)
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                2. atalef
                  atalef 29 July 2015 13: 46
                  +2
                  Quote: EGOrkka
                  You are poorly informed gasoline prices are rising and in PSG! (Today)


                  Yeah?
                  Are you sure ?
                  Over the past three weeks, gas prices have fallen by about 27 cents and are now averaging $ 2,20 per gallon (approximately 1 cents per liter) of the lowest grade automotive fuel in the country.

                  Thus, the cost of gasoline in the United States fell to its lowest level since April 2009, TASS notes.

                  The fall in gas prices in the United States is directly related to the cheapening of oil on world exchanges, which occurs primarily due to lower demand for black gold and an oversupply. According to experts, gasoline will become cheaper in the coming weeks. However, the pace of falling fuel prices is likely to slow down.

                  Read more on NTV.Ru: http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1286779/?fb#ixzz3hHCG2gK1
                  1. EGOrkka
                    EGOrkka 29 July 2015 14: 03
                    -1
                    atalef


                    Yes, I am sure!!!!!!!!!!!!! Today I talked with relatives with Los Angeles !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                    1. EGOrkka
                      EGOrkka 29 July 2015 16: 42
                      -4
                      was - 2.6 became-4 per gallon.
                      1. Revolver
                        Revolver 29 July 2015 18: 01
                        0
                        Quote: EGOrkka
                        was - 2.6 became-4 per gallon.

                        Chegoooooo ????? Yes, I myself didn’t give up as the day before yesterday refueled at $ 2.87 / gal, moreover, premium, and regular it seemed like 2.57. But I have a turbocharged Volvo, of course it is permissible and regular to pour, but premium is still desirable.
                      2. EGOrkka
                        EGOrkka 30 July 2015 01: 43
                        -3
                        You have near Dnepropetrovsk ............ And in PSG money dollars and your hryvnia can’t buy anything there, except maybe a cookie !!!!!
                      3. Revolver
                        Revolver 30 July 2015 05: 28
                        +1
                        Quote: EGOrkka
                        You have near Dnepropetrovsk ............ And in PSG money dollars and your hryvnia can’t buy anything there, except maybe a cookie !!!!!
                        Che absolutely stupid? If the checkbox does not convince, look in the profile. For people like you stupid, it’s clearly written: Residence: USA
                        And by the way, I didn’t visit Dnepropetrovsk, and indeed Urkain.
                      4. EGOrkka
                        EGOrkka 30 July 2015 06: 21
                        -3
                        ......Oh well..... laughing
                      5. Do not care
                        Do not care 30 July 2015 03: 29
                        +1
                        And today I am at 2.14.
                        I can take a picture and paste
                3. padded jacket
                  padded jacket 29 July 2015 17: 13
                  0
                  Quote: EGOrkka
                  You are poorly informed gasoline prices are rising and in the US

                  By the way, gasoline prices in the "citadel of democracy" Israel:
                  As specified in the message of the portal Globes, at a gas station self-service, the price of a liter of gasoline (including VAT) is currently 6,65 shekels per liter.
                  http://cursorinfo.co.il/news/busines1/2015/07/23/litr-benzina-v-izraile-podeshev
                  eet-na - agorot /
                  Today's course: 1 dollar = 3.77 shekels
                  But of course, it is easier for Jews to have a dwarf country, so there’s nowhere to accelerate.
                4. VseDoFeNi
                  VseDoFeNi 29 July 2015 17: 19
                  -2
                  Quote: EGOrkka
                  You are poorly informed gasoline prices are rising and in PSG! (Today)

                  This is not the price increase, this is DOLLAR CHEAPER !!!
                  Let's call a spade a spade.
                  The dollar, like the rest of the money, is getting cheaper. The countries of victorious Satanism are rapidly impoverished.
                  As a rule, crises of overproduction, on closer examination, turn into crises of underconsumption.
                  Etc.
                  1. Revolver
                    Revolver 29 July 2015 18: 05
                    0
                    Quote: VseDoFeNi
                    This is not the price increase, this DOLLAR IS CHEAPER !!!
                    Let's call a spade a spade.
                    The dollar, like the rest of the money, is getting cheaper. The countries of victorious Satanism are rapidly impoverished.
                    Yes? Then why would this gold become cheaper against the dollar, let alone oil? And other metals, precious or not, are also becoming cheaper.
                    1. VseDoFeNi
                      VseDoFeNi 29 July 2015 18: 18
                      +1
                      Quote: Nagan
                      Yes? Then why would this gold become cheaper against the dollar, let alone oil? And other metals, precious or not, are also becoming cheaper.

                      Do you believe in an independent market? laughing

                  2. EGOrkka
                    EGOrkka 29 July 2015 18: 18
                    0
                    I'm not talking about your nonsense, I'm talking about real gas prices in New York and Los Angeles. And do not care about your manuals!
                    1. Uncle Joe
                      Uncle Joe 29 July 2015 20: 14
                      +1
                      Quote: EGOrkka
                      I'm talking about real gas prices in New York and Los Angeles
                      1. EGOrkka
                        EGOrkka 30 July 2015 01: 45
                        -1
                        ..... And between yesterday and a week earlier, what is the difference? or you do not care if only to crack !!!!
                      2. Uncle Joe
                        Uncle Joe 30 July 2015 02: 48
                        0
                        Quote: EGOrkka
                        ..... And between yesterday and a week earlier, what is the difference?
                        No.

                        Moreover, if during the year the price of gasoline per liter "increased" from 90 cents to 80 cents, then one can only neigh at the one talking about the rise in prices (as an option, twist a finger at his temple) smile


                        11.03.2014/14/36, Washington 34:XNUMX:XNUMX In the US, the retail price of gasoline at gas stations reached maximum in almost six monthsexceeding the value $ 3,5 per gallon. According to the results of the reporting week ending March 10, 2014, the average weekly retail price of Regular motor gasoline (an analogue of the Russian AI-92) amounted to $ 3,512 per gallon (including taxes) $ 0,928 per liter) it the highest since September 16, 2013., follows from the official statistics of the US Department of Energy.

                        A gallon of gasoline in the United States rose in price for the reporting week by $ 0,033, and average retail gasoline prices at gas stations in the 10 largest US cities as of March 10, 2014. made up:
                        - New York - $ 3,608 per gallon;
                        - Boston - $ 3,502 per gallon;
                        - Chicago - $ 3,817 per gallon;
                        - Cleveland - $ 3,513 per gallon;
                        - Denver - $ 3,590 per gallon;
                        - Houston - $ 3,196 per gallon;
                        - Los Angeles - $ 3,982 per gallon;
                        - Miami - $ 3,586 per gallon;
                        - San Francisco - $ 3,922 per gallon;
                        - Seattle - $ 3,568 per gallon.
                        http://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/20140311143634.shtml
                      3. EGOrkka
                        EGOrkka 31 July 2015 05: 45
                        -1
                        ..... and updates on the site are online ????
                5. Revolver
                  Revolver 29 July 2015 18: 09
                  0
                  Quote: EGOrkka
                  You are poorly informed gasoline prices are rising and in PSG! (Today)
                  Between March and May, a little bit (somewhere about 30 cents per gallon) grew up and stopped, now they just fluctuate plus or minus somewhere around 5 - 10 cents back and forth, but in principle they cost.
          2. silver_roman
            silver_roman 29 July 2015 11: 56
            0
            Quote: EGOrkka
            And this is fraught with some kind of adventure PSH !!!!

            it is only fraught with war, because they and the whole world will be dragged away behind them.
        4. sherp2015
          sherp2015 29 July 2015 07: 57
          +10
          Quote: mirag2
          So gentlemen, comrades, buy iron kettles instead of electric ones with a fixed service life.
          And iron cups instead of porcelain.
          Would be younger would move from city to village.


          Dependence on foreign goods also affects ...
          If the "effective" managers in our country had not destroyed the industry, then we probably did not feel the economic shocks so noticeably.

          How much more time is this lousy dollar going around our country freely? Can we really bend without him?
          1. SibSlavRus
            SibSlavRus 29 July 2015 09: 00
            +15
            Quote: sherp2015
            How much more time is this lousy dollar going around our country freely? Can we really bend without him?


            Dear, let's put the question more correctly: how long will these lousy "effective managers" walk freely around our country? Are we going to die without them?

            Impunity-permissiveness-incompetence
            identity = loss of control of power by the population.
            And as Stolypin used to say: "In Russia they like to start with reforms, because it is easier to hide the inability to govern."
            For the sake of the dollar, our great potential was destroyed by the enemies of the people. I really want to outweigh them all, along with those who feed on them. Or should I act more humanely? Working teams, in the same composition, to develop the infrastructure of the northern regions. It is there that they will show their "managerial efficiency" headed by the Cabinet.
            1. Former
              Former 29 July 2015 09: 40
              +6
              Only to us, to the "North"
              -Do not shoot at all!
              Let them build the Tomsk-Kedrovy road (for example) or pave the winter road to Korotchaevo!
              "Test" on parole - "kilometers" ....
              But this is a fairy tale.

              Patient, oh and patient Russian people!
              More and more often I think that the country is slowly turning into the notorious "linear construction battalions".
            2. sherp2015
              sherp2015 29 July 2015 10: 10
              +2
              Quote: SibSlavRus
              For the sake of the dollar, our great potential was destroyed by the enemies of the people. I really want to outweigh them all, along with those who feed on them. Or more humane to do?


              No exactly outweigh!
              For them, this is the most humane execution))
        5. SAMIKHALYCH
          SAMIKHALYCH 29 July 2015 08: 20
          +3
          There is a thread in the taiga :) There do not care for gas / oil - there is a lot of firewood around :)
        6. ermolai
          ermolai 29 July 2015 11: 34
          +5
          Quote: mirag2
          Would be younger would move from city to village.

          so old that hands do not hold a spoon? you’ll only save on communal expenses, and in the village you don’t have to keep 5 cows and other, and 5 hens will not burden you, but every day you will have a cherries, it’s not so difficult to heat the stove, as it seems, now there’s practically no water from the well who does not wear. garden? don’t sit down anymore than you eat, and this is garbage to grow a couple of bags of potato, you can buy il. Run out of this human trap called the city.
        7. candy wrapper13
          candy wrapper13 29 July 2015 14: 46
          +1
          * -10 $ per barrel?
          -Easy*.
          -
          The portal defensenews.com has published a fresh rating of the 100 largest arms manufacturers. It included seven Russian companies.
          The rating was compiled on the basis of income from the sale of military products. The list was led by the American corporation Lockheed Martin, the second place at Boeing, the third at BAE Systems.
          Among Russian companies, the 11th place in the rating was taken by the Almaz-Antey East Kazakhstan region. The association earned $ 8,3 billion from the sale of military products. 14th in the list is the United Aircraft Corporation with $ 6,2 billion in revenue. The 23rd place in the Top 100 is the Russian Helicopters Corporation with an income of $ 3,9 billion. Compared to last year's rating, the corporation has moved up two positions.
          The United Engine Corporation has risen by 8 positions at once in comparison with the last year and occupies the 26th place in the current rating. Her income is $ 3,3 billion. The Tactical Missiles Corporation ranks 31st in the rankings with $ 2,8 billion in revenue. On the 52nd place in the current rating of NPK "Uralvagonzavod". It is characteristic that last year the enterprise did not make it to the Top-100 at all. Income from trade in military products amounted to $ 1,5 billion. The RTI holding closes the list of Russian defense enterprises. He is in 69th place with $ 947 million in revenue.
        8. free
          free 29 July 2015 15: 34
          +1
          Do you breed alarmism?
      2. Alekseev
        Alekseev 29 July 2015 14: 14
        +1
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        wait namesake, now

        No panic. No need to make waves in the basin. laughing
        With the cheapening of oil, investments in the exploration and development of new fields will drop sharply, and this is the way to reduce production and, accordingly, increase the price of hydrocarbons again.
        What to us? Simply by the amount of lost profits, to reduce the purchase of goods in the EU, as in harmful reptiles, first of all. In the United States, and so we buy a little.
        True, this will happen through the ruble exchange rate ... But the corresponding organizational measures will not interfere.
        The main thing is to preserve domestic prices and develop import substitution. And it’s time to think carefully about selling exports for rubles (it’s almost the same as selling 100% of foreign exchange earnings). E.V. Primakov, the kingdom of heaven to him, taught in due time what to do. True EBN did not appreciate, alkan ... But now is the time to recall the experience of 1998. Moreover, the conditions are much better now: industrial production is significantly higher and not only Russia is losing, many countries are getting less money. So let them buy both in Russia and in Africa with our Asian countries, a cheaper one rather than a western one. To increase the export of defense industry, engineering, metals, chemical products by 20% and to hell with it, cheap oil.
        1. Former
          Former 29 July 2015 16: 16
          +1
          In the United States, and so we buy a little.

          SCADA system DELTA-V, products of Emerson / FISHER / ROSEMOUNT (I agree, partly localized PG "METRAN"), ROTORK (not the USA, but somehow connected with them) Siemens products (SVP, SGU - drilling, production), compressors ARIEL, GPES, DES are mainly SAT, Cummings, equipment for offshore drilling, etc.

          I can continue
          - Very, very "oil industry" (I so conventionally call everything connected with production, including gas) is connected with the USA and Transnational Corporations.

          I don’t “catch up with horror” - I’m just an active employee of the gas industry working in the “Severs” - I have 9 neglected fields and 33 years of work experience in the “asset”, so I have the right to speak.

          Yes, there are good domestic developments (well, for example, the fuel and energy complex drives, the analyst was also quite good), but still at least 50% of the oil industry is, let's say, "America" ​​(well, imported, in general).

          With the beginning of the "sanctions", I, as a line manager, personally "felt"
          - Commercial offers for import substitution, reduction of applications for spare parts,

          Of course, not everything is so sad, we can probably do without the "West", but we need to restore the factories, we need our own developments and, alas, the maintenance of the oil industry equipment in good condition - and this, as I already wrote, is 50% of "imports"

          But this is unrealistic with today's "model" of "management"
          -I need a mobilization economy (yes, yes, planned), you need to return the bills from offshore, you need people to believe that WE CAN!

          We need to regain respect for the simple worker, and only we, Russians, can, I believe!
          But excuse me, all this is hard to believe - 30 years of "perestroika" is not a "pound of raisins" ...

          Such are the things ...
          And China ...
          I worked with a Chinese drilling rig with SVP and Siemens of Chinese "localization"
          You know, in general, not bad, but there were problems with failures!
          But this is too narrow a specific topic.
    2. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 29 July 2015 06: 47
      +3
      Quote: andrei332809
      stir up the revolution among the Arabs and the Cathars, and there will be a rise.
      something about the Husids has not been heard for a long time

      Why do you need a raise? As Pushkin wrote, he doesn’t need gold (a dollar) when he has a simple product!
      Russia has a "simple product". It is our simple product that other countries need. Avtarkaya, this is our everything.
      1. BMW
        BMW 29 July 2015 07: 10
        +7
        They missed a free chance to raise production, dealt with the separation of petrodollars, supported Western economies. Let's see what happens. They want to push us to revolution again. Will the oligarchs have the wit to protect their grandmothers, or should we again expect their emigration to London.
        Honestly, it could be a fake, take us to the show off, arrange a panic.
        Exchanges are very sensitive to rumors and all kinds of forecasts.
        1. anip
          anip 29 July 2015 07: 51
          +6
          Quote: bmw
          They missed a free chance to raise production, dealt with the separation of petrodollars, supported Western economies. Let's see what happens.

          Yes, everything will be the same.

          Quote: bmw
          Will the oligarchs have the wit to protect their grandmothers, or should we again expect their emigration to London.

          Well, actually a lot of friends and associates of Chubais have already dumped in London (google, who does not believe).
        2. Vita vko
          Vita vko 29 July 2015 07: 53
          0
          Finally, the oligarchs and the authorities will understand that money needs to be invested in production, technology and science. It is much more efficient and saves the country's non-renewable resources for future generations.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 29 July 2015 09: 48
            +7
            Quote: Vita VKO
            Finally, the oligarchs and the authorities will understand that money needs to be invested in production, technology and science. It is much more efficient and saves the country's non-renewable resources for future generations.

            Pro-American moneylenders and profiteers never invest in production at all.
            1. Vita vko
              Vita vko 30 July 2015 04: 52
              +1
              Quote: Tatiana
              Pro-American moneylenders and profiteers never invest in production at all

              Because it is possible to earn much faster by plundering people's resources. That is why the main international robbers preserve wells in their own country and prefer to buy it and mine in other countries. A real thief will never steal from himself, much less from thieves like himself.
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          3. Former
            Former 29 July 2015 09: 50
            +4
            I would like to believe, but hardly ...
            Do you know how, for example, oil is being extracted now?
            - It's not about Vankor and large deposits, but about smaller ones.

            New field (this is real and not at one field)
            The daily debit from 3 wells is 1500 cubic meters of oil per day, and, moreover, a "fountain".
            They release a "huge" ESP (after all, investors need to show that there is production (namely, production, with an emphasis on "O", as those who produce oil, and not "REAL" oilmen say, are in "spinzhaks" and ties from Versace)! )

            Naturally, the level drops, they begin to choke, the temperature at the bottom, liming increases, followed by hydraulic fracturing ...

            The hydraulic fracturing is unsuccessful, the most productive well is Kirdyk, and after a month production is 100 cubic meters per day ...
            Barbarously, barbarously destroying the bowels - there would be an opportunity - they would have scooped everything out with buckets!

            And this is the "oil industry", that is, the extractive industry with what no payback (even if there is no oil in the field, there is "KVOTA", and this is sometimes MORE IMPORTANT than daily production)

            And heavy industry, science ...
            Yes, there will be no instant "exhaust", so forgive me, I do not believe it!

            Though..
            We’ll see if the truth can really turn its face, not its ass to the people
            - What doesn’t happen in life?
        3. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 29 July 2015 08: 14
          +4
          Quote: bmw
          Free chance to raise production missed

          It was not for this that the USSR was dismembered in order to create a competitor for itself. If anyone forgot, the Communists, having divided the USSR, left all markets, both external and internal, depriving our industry of work and financing.
          Quote: bmw
          engaged in the separation of petrodollars

          Russia today is one of the leading countries in the world.
          Quote: bmw
          Western economies supported

          We live in a country that has lost the war. Whether you like it or not, this is a tribute to the countries of victorious Satanism.
          Quote: bmw
          They want to push us to revolution again.
          This is the only working technology arrogant Saxons to destroy objectionable countries.

          Quote: bmw
          Will the oligarchs have the wit to protect their grandmothers, or should we again expect their emigration to London.

          It is important for us not to destroy our country for the third time in a row.


          Quote: bmw
          Exchanges are very sensitive to rumors and all kinds of forecasts.

          The economy, in its current form, is generally a manipulation designed for idiots in its purest form.
          At the base of the economy, it is human activity aimed at satisfying vital needs. Today "economy" is actually chrematistics - self-enrichment.
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      2. U-47
        U-47 29 July 2015 07: 45
        +5
        Quote: VseDoFeNi
        It is our simple product that other countries need.

        our everything, yes.
        1. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 29 July 2015 08: 18
          +2
          Our everything is avtarkiya. That is self-sufficiency.
          AUTHOR
          (from Greek. autarkeia - self-satisfaction) - a state of independence from the outside world, incl. and from other people. The term was used by Plato and Aristotle; Cyrenaics and Stoics considered A., or "self-sufficiency", as a vital ideal.


          We would only have more minds.
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          2. U-47
            U-47 29 July 2015 09: 10
            0
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            We would only have more minds.


            the amount of reason is constant, and the population is constantly growing. Murphy's Law.
            1. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 29 July 2015 17: 08
              0
              Quote: U-47
              Murphy's Law.

              Murphy is a liar, as a representative of the countries of victorious Satanism - their god is Satan, the father of lies.
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    3. SAMIKHALYCH
      SAMIKHALYCH 29 July 2015 08: 18
      +8
      Someone else, but I was pretty sick of it that Russia, like Ecuador, has been closely following the price of its "bananas" for twenty years! And it depends on these prices. We will only become really strong when the prices for our "bananas" stop worrying us not even in the first place, but in the first place, the fifteenth minimum.
      1. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 29 July 2015 08: 24
        +7
        Quote: SAMIKHALYCH
        Someone else, but I was pretty sick of it that Russia, like Ecuador, has been closely following the price of its "bananas" for twenty years!

        Russia is part of the USSR, which was dismembered in 1991, and lost the Cold War.

        DO NOT lose the war !!!

        Quote: SAMIKHALYCH
        We will only become really strong when the prices for our "bananas" stop worrying us not even in the first place, but in the first place, the fifteenth minimum.

        Need to start with the nationalization of the banking system and strategic industries.
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        2. U-47
          U-47 29 July 2015 09: 52
          +1
          Quote: VseDoFeNi
          DO NOT lose the war !!!
        3. denis02135
          denis02135 29 July 2015 14: 14
          0
          Dear, did Germany and Japan win the war? You can lose, but the correct conclusions must be done.
          1. Former
            Former 29 July 2015 15: 03
            +6
            "TU" we won the war. And they made the CORRECT CONCLUSIONS - already in 1949 they canceled the cards, in 1957 they went into space.
            They built factories, strengthened defense, gave birth to children, moved forward. Science developed ...

            But "nits" started up and on the sly, while we, believing in their "infallibility", worked, built and defended to the "tune" of the "overseas leaders", to the sweet speeches of Judas with a map of America on the "forehead" we destroyed the Great Country.

            Both Japan and Germany, mentioned by you, excuse me, are "racially close" by the same USA.
            And Russia ...
            Russia has always been a bone in the throat for everyone ...

            Probably not better than Alexander Blok.
            Zillions - you. We - the darkness and darkness and darkness.
            Try, fight with us!
            Yes, we are Scythians! Yes, Asians - we,
            With slanted and greedy eyes!

            For you - centuries, for us - a single hour.
            We are like obedient slaves
            Holding a shield between two hostile races
            Mongols and Europe!

            Century, century your old horn forged
            And drowned out thunder, avalanches,
            And a wild fairy tale was a failure for you
            And Lisbon, and Messina!

            You looked east for hundreds of years
            Digging and melting our pearls
            And you, mocking, counted only the term,
            When to train cannon vents!

            Here - the time has come. Wings are beating trouble
            And every day resentment multiplies,
            And the day will come - there will be no trace
            From your Paestums, maybe!

            Oh, the old world! Until you perish,
            While you languish with sweet flour,
            Stop, wise as Oedipus,
            Before the Sphinx with an ancient mystery!

            Russia - Sphinx. Rejoicing and mourning
            And bleeding black blood,
            She looks, looks, looks at you.
            And with hatred, and with love! ...

            Yes, to love as much as our blood loves,
            None of you have loved for a long time!

            Forgot you, that in the world there is love,
            Which burns and kills!

            We love everything - and the heat of cold numbers,
            And the gift of divine visions,
            Everything is clear to us - and a sharp Gallic meaning,
            And the gloomy German genius ...

            We remember everything - hell streets of Paris,
            And the Venetian coolness,
            Lemon groves are a distant fragrance,
            And Cologne smoky bulks ...

            We love flesh - and its taste, and color,
            And the stuffy, mortal flesh smell ...
            Guilty if we crack your skeleton
            In the heavy, gentle paws?

            We used to get used to the bridle
            Playing horses zealous,
            Breaking horses with heavy sacra
            And pacify the slaves of the obstinate ...

            Come to us! From the horrors of war
            Come in peace hugs!
            Before it's too late - the old sword in the sheath,
            Comrades! We will become - brothers!

            And if not - we have nothing to lose,
            And we are not above treachery!
            Century, centuries you will be curse
            Sick later offspring!

            We are wide in the wilds and forests
            Before Europe, prigozhey
            Let's part! We will turn to you
            His Asian mug!

            Go all, go to the Urals!
            We clear the place of battle
            Steel machines, where the integral breathes,
            With the Mongolian wild horde!

            But we ourselves are no longer a shield to you,
            From now on, we will not enter the battle ourselves,
            We'll see how the mortal battle is boiling,
            With his narrow eyes.

            We will not move when the ferocious Hun
            In the pockets of corpses will fumble,
            Burn the city, and drive the herd into the church,
            And fry white brothers meat! ...

            For the last time - come to your senses, old world!
            On the fraternal feast of work and peace,
            The last time for a bright fraternal feast
            Cries the barbaric lyre!
            1. denis02135
              denis02135 29 July 2015 22: 12
              +2
              You are probably right, the cards were canceled in kossom first came out only do you remember what Long, green smells like sausage ??? if not then the Ryazan train. And from Khabarovsk to Moscow by train you will not reach.
              In the 50s, my mother went to Eliseevsky on Nevsky to smell the sausage, since there was no way to buy it. I also lived in the USSR and I remember the line for everything.

              Why do you think the Berlin Wall was built, why did you need exit visas?

              Where did you buy grain? Do you remember?

              You probably served in the army and took the oath? Where you were in 91 defended the USSR until the last drop of blood or silently sat in the kitchen.

              Quote: Former
              worked, built and defended
              if they defended it would not be the collapse of the USSR.
              1. Former
                Former 30 July 2015 05: 30
                +1
                I will not argue.
                Everyone remembers his own.

                I remember how, before leaving for work, my wife and I argued about what kind of butter to take Peasant, Cream, whether today we need to take pork or beef, whether my daughter wants condensed milk, etc.

                And in Tomsk there were already coupons ...
                And I, mama's son and a "botanist" on the Komsomolskaya voucher, rejoiced at the All-Union Shock Construction, my favorite TNHK, where everything was in the stores and the salaries were, let's say, "very" ...

                In 1984, we opened the Training Complex, passed something like "KMB" and we, with a colleague, were sent to study.
                Out of 34 people (EMNIP), 15 graduated, the rest left
                -Nah, nah, your petrochem!
                -And we will kill our health and nafig grub, "huts" and other "buns".

                However, about this, about my stupid life, I write something like a story.
                http://www.proza.ru/2013/11/15/1175

                And we stayed and worked and built and lived and "breathed" what we loved and, of course, had all the "buns" possible.
                Someone even suffered severe hard times and is still working.

                And I, as in 1984, chose the MAIN WEALTH of the family (and don’t care about my own troubles) and with blood, with meat, I pulled out my favorite plant from my heart and for 20 years now it’s essentially a "rolling stone"

                However, as I said
                -Everyone remembers his own.
                And the shame that I and my generation have drained my country is eating more and more ...

                And in 1991 ...
                You know, I just worked and drank tea in the kitchen, exhausted like a dog - it was necessary to restore the plant after the explosion.

        4. padded jacket
          padded jacket 29 July 2015 15: 11
          -4
          Quote: VseDoFeNi
          You need to start with the nationalization of the banking system and strategic industries.

          And that again to restore socialism, again revolution, poverty, hunger is an even tougher bike by other capitalist countries.
          I am afraid that in this case even China, India and our other allies today will not be on our side.
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 29 July 2015 17: 12
            -1
            Quote: quilted jacket
            And that again to restore socialism, again revolution, poverty, hunger is an even tougher bike by other capitalist countries.

            No revolutions, only evolution!

            Quote: quilted jacket
            I am afraid that in this case even China, India and our other allies today will not be on our side.

            And do not be afraid, Earth, this is a training where we are taught on the Gods!

            1. padded jacket
              padded jacket 29 July 2015 17: 23
              +1
              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              And do not be afraid, Earth, this is a training where we are taught on the Gods!

              Personally, I think that it would still be better to "collapse" the economy of the US, EU, Israel and other enemies of our country than to re-arrange "perestroika" on our territory.
              1. VseDoFeNi
                VseDoFeNi 30 July 2015 06: 06
                0
                Quote: quilted jacket
                Personally, I think that it would still be better to "collapse" the economies of the USA, EU, Israel

                Do not collapse anything, they themselves will collapse. We just need to stand aside.
                China, by the way, will also not have a sweet spot from this collapse - their economy is built by the camps of victorious Satanism and is aimed at their consumption.
      2. Days
        Days 29 July 2015 08: 41
        0
        In order not to worry about your bananas, you need to be DPRK. Here they are not worried, because they do not sell anything, almost. And all the other countries are worried about something.

        Countries with rich natural resources - for the price of resources, countries with an export economy - for a stable low exchange rate of their currency, countries with an import economy - for a stable high exchange rate of their currency, the United States - for a monopoly of their currency, tourist countries - for a steady flow of tourists, countries with high-tech exports - for their technical potential, countries with a gas pipeline - for other people's gas in this gas pipeline.

        Even Samoa and Fiji are worried - for the crop and for the prices of coconuts, whose export from them is 30% of GDP.
    4. atalef
      atalef 29 July 2015 08: 23
      +2
      Quote: andrei332809
      .
      something about the Husids has not been heard for a long time

      Husits ​​or Hasidim? -))))))
      1. IS-80
        IS-80 29 July 2015 09: 38
        +6
        Quote: atalef
        Husits ​​or Hasidim? -))))))

        Yes, who the busurman will take you there. laughing
        1. U-47
          U-47 29 July 2015 09: 55
          -1
          Quote: IS-80
          Quote: atalef
          Husits ​​or Hasidim? -))))))

          Yes, who the busurman will take you there. laughing
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    5. INVESTOR
      INVESTOR 29 July 2015 08: 59
      +9
      Today in the era of electronic commerce, one must clearly understand that the price in the market is determined by completely non-fundamental factors, a good example is gold. The price is dictated by global banks under the control of the US Federal Reserve, for example, assets worth 7 trillion are now on the balance sheet of the Fed. dollars. Such a monster will flood any market if it wants, and if it isn’t enough, it will still print it. This is the key point, it must be understood. There is a war, financial, informational, against emerging markets, primarily against Russia. Well, and as a bonus to everything, the United States needs cheap energy resources to restore its economy. Oil painting.
      1. avt
        avt 29 July 2015 10: 12
        +6
        Quote: INVESTOR
        Today in the era of electronic commerce, you need to clearly understand that the price in the market is determined by completely non-fundamental factors,

        It would be simpler to say - the price of oil is ABSOLUTELY independent of the amount of oil produced and its consumption. These are two parallel universes - real production and an exchange with trading on it, “futures.” That is, ordinary speculation and not even dollars - derevatives, that is, unsecured pieces of paper, such as contracts for future deliveries.
        Quote: INVESTOR
        . The price is dictated by global banks under the control of the US Federal Reserve, for example, assets worth 7 trillion are now on the balance sheet of the Fed. dollars.

        Again, add that oil is traded ONLY in dollars and per barrel.
        Quote: INVESTOR
        , financial, informational against emerging markets, especially against Russia.

        In pure form.
        Quote: INVESTOR
        and. Well, and as a bonus to everything, the United States needs cheap energy resources to restore its economy.

        And here the double-edged sword - with the fall in prices, drilling on the territory of USA itself will actually close is stupidly not profitable, and this will again hit the soap stock exchange bubble of lending to their non-nannies. So, they can really play around in excitement until the next Great Depression.
        1. INVESTOR
          INVESTOR 29 July 2015 10: 36
          +3
          [/ Quote]
          In its purest form. [Quote = INVESTOR] and. Well, and as a bonus to everything, the United States needs cheap energy resources to restore its economy. [/ Quote]
          And here the double-edged sword - with the fall in prices, drilling on the territory of USA itself will actually close is stupidly unprofitable, and this will again hit the soap stock exchange bubble of lending to their non-nannies. [/ quote]

          There is another veiled goal, because many products besides oil are traded in dollars, wheat, corn, soy, copper, platinum ... and by upsetting their dolor price, the Fed controls inflation in the country.
          1. avt
            avt 29 July 2015 11: 37
            +2
            Quote: INVESTOR
            By upsetting their dolor price, the Fed controls inflation in the country.

            No. There is another main mechanism for regulating inflation. The Volks dollar that is distributed in the world, well, cash, when it enters the USA from the circulation of the banking system is instantly withdrawn and sent by "investments" to "developing markets" such as Iraq and Libya today, well, the dollar is "matched" by the most reliable government bonds in the world Fed, and in the USA only the Reichs dollar goes, again a card system from checks to electronic money.
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        3. U-47
          U-47 29 July 2015 11: 13
          0
          Quote: avt
          To put it simply, the price of oil is ABSOLUTELY independent of the amount of oil produced and its consumption. These are two parallel universes - real production and an exchange with trading in "futures"

          +100, comrade.
          physical and paper markets.
        4. denis02135
          denis02135 29 July 2015 14: 24
          -1
          You are right, but today it takes 3 months to open a new shale well, with a sharp increase in oil prices, the states will begin to sell reserves, they will have enough for half a year, and they will have enough time to open shale wells at the same time. Plus, new technologies do not stand still. It seems to me that high oil prices are over. 30-60 bucks is probably the limit.
    6. candy wrapper13
      candy wrapper13 29 July 2015 09: 08
      +1
      *something about the Husids has not been heard for a long time* -Hussites are fighting-
      UN, Jul 29 - RIA Novosti. Parties to the conflict in Yemen did not comply with the humanitarian pause declared by the Arab coalitionStephen O'Brien, UN Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs, said.
      Oxfam: about 6,5 million people in Yemen are on the verge of starvation
      The command of the coalition of Arab countries conducting a military operation in Yemen previously announced the start of a five-day humanitarian truce on the night of Sunday to Monday.
      "The humanitarian pause announced over the weekend has not been respected by either side of the conflict, which has been reported to have carried out airstrikes and ground shelling in eight provinces."- said O'Brien in the UN Security Council. In the coming weeks, he intends to visit Yemen,"to see for yourself what people in Yemen need and what challenges they face. "
      PS believe * RBC experts *? - do not tell the pompons on my slippers-CAM I heard how * expert RBC * * predicted and AbAsnovov * * decline in oil production of the Russian Federation in case of sanctions on 50% *-complete nonsense yesbut the view was clever for everyone * discussing * was lol
      a little positive -
      The vertical take-off of the MiG-29 fighter
      Russian production captured on video and published in leading online media in the West.
      The mass shootings of the start of the Russian fighter hit the Western media. So, the Huffington Post posts a short video, accompanied by enthusiastic comments. “It freezes in the chest as the fighter accelerates. From far away this take-off can be confused with rocket ", - the journalist writes excitedly, accompanying the video from the RIAT-2015 air show, which took place in the UK.
      Video views are growing rapidly: in a few hours, half a million views have arrived.
      источник http://www.u-f.ru/News/u347/2015/07/28/720556
      1. Shick
        Shick 29 July 2015 13: 25
        +4
        everything is simple. Americans, no matter how sad it is to admit, in this game we beat our heads.
        cheap oil stimulates production. they spit on their shale oil workers, when you can buy oil as much as you want and cheaper.
        The urapatriots shouted vying that Russia sanctions like an elephant fly. Yes Yes Yes....
        I personally felt in my own skin, sn cut by 20%, goods grew, and it is not clear why, also local milk. Import substitution in action. xs who is even more dangerous than the USA or our grabbers entrepreneurs
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        2. U-47
          U-47 29 July 2015 13: 40
          0
          Quote: Shick
          The urapatriots shouted vying that Russia sanctions like an elephant fly. Yes Yes Yes....

          broadcast sedition laughing They will be distracted from knitting socks and preparing pickles for the winter and will call them "all-consuming", and what is worse, they will write down as "liberals". Passed already.
          1. EGOrkka
            EGOrkka 29 July 2015 17: 45
            0
            bully "Whistle" you and your whole theatrical team!
    7. rumpeljschtizhen
      rumpeljschtizhen 29 July 2015 13: 16
      +1
      We must work not in Razdolbaisky and not revolution stir up
      1. EGOrkka
        EGOrkka 30 July 2015 01: 47
        0
        They are no longer in the presidency and the managers do not take it, they don’t even trust the border, and they are all RIGHT!
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  3. Same lech
    Same lech 29 July 2015 06: 28
    +3
    The ROTHSCHILDS and the ROCKFELLERS seem to have started their new game ...
    the goal of which is to plunge the world into chaos and collapse, it is clear that it is on this that unimaginable states are knocked together and whole states go bankrupt .... the process has begun.
    1. max702
      max702 29 July 2015 08: 53
      +4
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      The ROTHSCHILDS and the ROCKFELLERS seem to have started their new game ...
      the goal of which is to plunge the world into chaos and collapse, it is clear that it is on this that unimaginable states are knocked together and whole states go bankrupt .... the process has begun.

      Exactly!
      RS: This is the ghoul who for the SIXTH time changed his heart ..
      1. Dam
        Dam 30 July 2015 00: 34
        0
        And it seems to me that the crisis needs to be eliminated in an operational way. It is necessary to physically eliminate the gentlemen of the Rothschilds and Rockefellers.
  4. Name
    Name 29 July 2015 06: 29
    +3
    Oh well them on ... recourse that plant, which is like seasoning; all these analytical forecasts, and even more so from Bloomberg and others like him.
    1. madjik
      madjik 29 July 2015 21: 22
      -1
      let everything roll to ebony) there will be a collapse and everyone will feel kevo, the faster the better! zavaritsya havchikom and popcorn) and advice from the big cities do legs laughing
  5. lotar
    lotar 29 July 2015 06: 37
    +4
    Most likely the next planned move of the United States and its vassals in Europe and the Middle East, we are waiting for a retaliatory move from the Russian Federation. Unfortunately, ours only so far respond being on the defensive for certain hostile steps of our implacable enemies in this area of ​​time. nothing will change, it is necessary to more decisively influence the world order following the example of the United States, also on their territory to organize various unpleasant things for them, internecine strife, racial discrimination, organize various religious communities to combat "evil spirits" such as politicians and the like ...
  6. apro
    apro 29 July 2015 06: 39
    +20
    It’s not the supply and demand that control the price of oil, but interested parties mostly of the American appearance. They cannot manage this process in Moscow and they don’t really want to resist, they don’t have their own position, the only option is to avoid raw materials dependence and they are all pushing for piping.
    1. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 29 July 2015 06: 59
      -3
      Quote: apro
      Tom Randall on the Bloomberg website warns: oil prices could fall to their lowest level in 45 years. Or maybe even lower.

      Soon, dollars will no longer be needed. And this can not but rejoice.
      1. anip
        anip 29 July 2015 07: 48
        -2
        Quote: VseDoFeNi
        Soon, dollars will no longer be needed. And this can not but rejoice.

        And where does the dollar? The dollar somehow does not depend on oil, and even if it does, then this dependence is close to zero. But the ruble ...
        1. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 29 July 2015 07: 53
          +2
          Quote: anip
          The dollar somehow does not depend on oil, and even if it does, then this dependence is close to zero.

          The main product made by the USA is DOLLARS. It is for DOLLARS that everything in the world is traded from oil to weapons. With a sharp and strong, at times, decline in oil prices, the demand for DOLLARS, which are simply not needed, is also falling sharply.
          Quote: anip
          . But the ruble ...

          But the ruble got the opportunity to be devalued, which dramatically increases the feasibility of developing its own industry, and not to buy, whatever, abroad.
          1. sherp2015
            sherp2015 29 July 2015 08: 07
            +4
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            But the ruble got the opportunity to be devalued, which dramatically increases the feasibility of developing its own industry,


            I would like to believe in it ...
            So far I see (with rare exceptions) the skeletons of the most powerful and promising enterprises built in Soviet times and the emergence of shopping complexes in their place in Russia ...
            I am silent about the regions of Moscow and St. Petersburg since this is not all of Russia.
            By the way, which Muscovite can say: what appeared on the site of the destroyed AZLK?
            1. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 29 July 2015 08: 39
              -2
              Quote: sherp2015
              So far I see (with rare exceptions) the skeletons of the most powerful and promising enterprises built in Soviet times and the emergence of shopping complexes in their place in Russia ...

              The skeletons were formed as a result of the dismemberment of the USSR in 1991. The modern leadership of Russia is FORCED to correct the consequences of this division. And our task is to either help our leadership or stop barking at them.

              Quote: sherp2015
              I am silent about the regions of Moscow and St. Petersburg since this is not all of Russia.
              Actually, I live in a provincial town.
              The nineties skating rink went through our industry.
              1. sherp2015
                sherp2015 29 July 2015 10: 19
                +6
                Quote: VseDoFeNi
                The nineties skating rink went through our industry.


                Actually, these "nineties" have a full name.
                1. VseDoFeNi
                  VseDoFeNi 29 July 2015 17: 34
                  0
                  Quote: sherp2015
                  Actually, these "nineties" have a full name.

                  The nineties have only an abbreviation - the CPSU.



                  In the search for "Chubais Kpss", "Taydar Kpss" and then change the names.
                  Let's look at the biography of our "people's" billionaire, who threw the people with a yo-mobile.

                  Born in the family of Dmitry Ionovich Prokhorov, head of the USSR State Sports Committee's Department of International Relations (originally from Barnaul [9]), and Tamara Mikhailovna Kumaritova, an employee of the polymer department at the Moscow Institute of Chemical Engineering.


                  I hope everyone understands that the oligarch’s dad was a communist ???
                2. EGOrkka
                  EGOrkka 29 July 2015 17: 40
                  0
                  Yes, even kill on "constipation" - I will not sit down !!!!! And on the "Muscovite" too !!!!!
              2. Former
                Former 29 July 2015 10: 26
                +6
                The modern leadership of Russia is FORCED to correct the consequences of this division. And our task is to either help our leadership or stop barking at them.

                Destroyed businesses and more
                Tomsk Bearing Plant
                Sibelektromotor
                Tomsk Military Medical Institute
                I can continue
                And this is only in the provincial Tomsk!
                This is all in the 15th anniversary of the "infallible" reign!

                What nafig "fixes" errors of the 90s?
                The systematic destruction of what has not yet been destroyed!

                Well, if nevertheless I am wrong and Industrialization will be ...
                Although I'm honestly tired and not at all young, I will "plow" the way I plowed in the USSR, when I was building my now half-destroyed TNHK!
          2. Uncle Joe
            Uncle Joe 29 July 2015 16: 12
            +4
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            The main product made by the USA is DOLLARS.
            Yes Yes Yes Yes... laughing

            Total US exports 2.27 trillion dollars (Russia 386 billion).
            Electrical equipment: $ 32 billion
            Finished metal products: $ 32 billion
            Metal: $ 49 billion
            Food: $ 50 billion
            Computers and electronic products: $ 121 billion
            Chemicals: $ 171 billion
            Transportation equipment: $ 175 billion
            Cars: $ 213
            Mineral fuels, including oil: $ 148
            Transport excluding trains and trams: $ 133
            Aircraft and spacecraft: $ 115
            Optical, technical and medical devices: $ 84
            Pearls, gems, precious metals and coins: $ 72
            Plastics: $ 60
            Organic Chemicals: $ 46
            Pharmaceutical products: $ 39

            US exports to Russia are $ 11.2 billion (0,7% of total exports)
            Machines, engines, pumps: $ 2
            Vehicles: $ 2
            Aircraft, spacecraft: $ 2
            Electronic equipment: $ 674 million
            Medical, technical equipment: $ 659
            Plastics: $ 378 million
            Meat: $ 323 million
            Inorganic Chemistry: $ 237
            Fruits, nuts: $ 222 million
            Other chemicals: $ 199 million

            http://bezshor.ru/ssha-nichego-ne-proizvodyat-no-eto-nichego-v-5-raz-bolshe-proi
            zvodit-rossiya /
            1. EGOrkka
              EGOrkka 29 July 2015 17: 06
              0
              fellow hi. what again are you wrapping candy wrappers?
              1. Uncle Joe
                Uncle Joe 29 July 2015 18: 55
                -1
                Quote: EGOrkka
                hi. what again are you wrapping candy wrappers?
                It’s healthy.

                Do you want candy wrappers? Catch it.
                1. EGOrkka
                  EGOrkka 31 July 2015 05: 49
                  0
                  ....... you are like mimicrites .... not life, but a way to dodge .... isn’t it yourself disgusting?
            2. Days
              Days 29 July 2015 17: 28
              0
              http://bezshor.ru/ - какой вредный и говняный сайт.

              Look at the root. US debts are denominated in US currencies, are made for the US currency, but in fact, real money is spent on all this wonderful production from countries that buy US government bonds for USD. The USA is developing, countries on the periphery of the economic space controlled by the USA are weakening.

              A necessary condition for such a situation with the production of DOLLAR is the political and military dominance of the United States. In fact, the United States has recently been the only superpower. What will happen in the future - let’s see, it is hoped that the change in the political system will be as peaceful as possible.
              1. Uncle Joe
                Uncle Joe 29 July 2015 18: 45
                -1
                Quote: Dagen
                http://bezshor.ru/ - какой вредный и говняный сайт
                Straight Expert opinion laughing

                in fact all this wonderful production
                In fact, all this wonderful production first produces a product that then changes to money (and there is demand, moreover, non-financial).

                In fact, government bonds - this is generally from another topic.

                In fact, real (as well as unreal) money does not exist at all (all money is the universal equivalent of value, the significance of which strictly corresponds to the level, quality and self-sufficiency of the production of goods and services)

                In fact, the weakness of countries located on the periphery of the US-controlled economic space is primarily a consequence not of US actions, but of the initial lag in technological development, a scarce mineral resource base, and the reluctance of the leadership of these countries to change their personal well-being to the countries’ development hemorrhagic in order to increase the well-being of the peoples of these countries.

                As for the "dollar production", this is not for me, but at best for textbooks.
                1. Days
                  Days 29 July 2015 19: 03
                  0
                  Quote: Uncle Joe
                  Straight Expert opinion

                  A site with direct propaganda of sodomy and hung with US flags? Yes, for this you do not need to be an expert, he causes disgust.

                  Quote: Uncle Joe
                  is a consequence not of US actions, but of the initial lag in technological development


                  Yeah, the leading role of the United States was determined by the creator on the seventh day of creation.



                  Source: http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/06/the-economic-history-of-the-
                  last-2-000-years-in-1-little-graph / 258676 /
                  1. Uncle Joe
                    Uncle Joe 29 July 2015 20: 55
                    0
                    Quote: Dagen
                    A site with direct propaganda of sodomy
                    Apparently who is looking for sodomy, he finds it.

                    Yeah, the leading role of the United States was determined by the creator on the seventh day of creation
                    The natural conditions of the territory, the activity of the population, and the policy of the US leadership (which, by the way, are considered one of the most religious states)

                    Source
                    Do you read it deigned, or where?

                    "The Industrial Revolution changed everything. Today, the United States accounts for 5% of the world population and 21% of its GDP. Asia (minus Japan) accounts for 60% of the world population and 30% of GDP.
                    So, one way to read the graph is that all that is left of 1800 is an approximation of the distribution of the population around the world and everything to the right of 1800 is a demonstration of the performance of divergences around the world - mastering the means of production, production and supply chain using steam, electricity, and ultimately softwareconcentrated first in the Westand then spread to Japan, Russia, China, India, Brazil ... "


                    He squeaks exactly about what I wrote above - "country weakness primarily is not a consequence of US actions, but an initial lag in technological development " - in them the industrial revolution later happened (moreover, by 41, and then by 60 the USSR was catching up with the USA)

                    And now we have it - http://expert.ru/ratings/dvadtsat-stran--liderov-po-razmeru-dobavlennoj-stoimost
                    iv-obrabatyivayuschej-promyishlennosti /
                    1. Days
                      Days 29 July 2015 21: 42
                      +1
                      You spoke about a certain "initial lag in technological development." There was no initial lag, though you have forgotten what you said.

                      Are you a victim of the exam? The industrial revolution began at the end of the 18th century in Britain. It was the industrial revolution that made Europe the strongest region of the world. In Europe, everything was much better with production, with population activity and with infrastructure. The British Empire alone, over which the sun does not set, was the largest economy in the world.



                      The United States overtook Europe only after two world wars, during which the significant potential of Europe was destroyed and the British Empire collapsed. Both facts allowed the territory of Europe and the former colonies of Britain to be included in their economic space, adding NATO for longevity.

                      So the point is not the super-exclusivity of the Americans. But yes, now they can export USD to the right and left instead of resources, and get what you showed in the table - first place.
                      1. Uncle Joe
                        Uncle Joe 30 July 2015 02: 20
                        0
                        Quote: Dagen
                        There was no initial lag, though you sharply forgot what you said
                        About how!

                        So all the countries of the world, along with Europe and the USA, in the 18th and 19th centuries made the transition from manual labor to machine work, from manufactory to factory, and I forgot something there? laughing

                        Are you a victim of the exam?
                        No, of course - I didn’t study with you.

                        The industrial revolution began at the end of the 18th century in Britain ... the United States overtook Europe only after two world wars ...
                        Well?

                        Great powers are changing their position in the ranking, the level of influence of oligarchs is changing, and initially backward countries as they were a cash cow, they remain so.

                        So it’s not at all the super-exclusivity of Americans
                        He invented it himself - he denied it ...

                        But yes, now they can export DOLLARS
                        No, not to textbooks ...

                        The USA is the 6th (formerly larger) part of the global industrial production (and high-tech) and the 5th (formerly larger) part of the global GDP.
                        The USA is the first place in the world in terms of GNP (China, which occupies the 2nd place, is almost 3 times behind the USA).
                        But the US is exporting dollars ... wassat
            3. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 29 July 2015 18: 14
              0
              Don’t worry so much, soon your masters will be covered with a copper basin. DO NOT print fake unsecured money for a long time.

              The main product manufactured by the USA is dollars and democratic bombing.
        2. EGOrkka
          EGOrkka 29 July 2015 17: 44
          0
          anip
          And where does the dollar? The dollar somehow does not depend on oil, and even if it does, then this dependence is close to zero. But the ruble ...


          ... But the budget in the secondary school is very dependent on the price of oil !!!!!
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      3. U-47
        U-47 29 July 2015 09: 58
        -2
        Quote: VseDoFeNi
        Soon, dollars will no longer be needed.

        and rubles too. Long live exchange trading!
        1. Days
          Days 29 July 2015 17: 37
          0
          She's coming now. Countries abandon the dollar and switch to gold settlements and the use of currency swaps (in fact - the size of national currencies against each other).

          And inside the IMF, XDR (SDRs, special drawing rights) have long been used, which are neither currency nor debt obligations, and are used for mutual settlements of countries within the IMF. They were invented for exchange trade, because the dollar cannot be the world reserve currency because of the Triffin Paradox: http://www.forextimes.ru/foreks-stati/dilemma-triffina-i-ee-vliyanie-na-valyuty.
        2. EGOrkka
          EGOrkka 29 July 2015 17: 39
          0
          .... gold is all over the head!
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 30 July 2015 06: 23
            0
            Quote: Pushkin A.S.

            Do not need gold for him
            When a simple product has.


            Quote: Pushkin A.S.

            Father could not understand him
            And gave the land as a pledge.
        3. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 30 July 2015 06: 32
          +1
          Quote: U-47
          Long live exchange trading!

          Clearing (eng. Clearing - clearing) - non-cash payments between countries, companies, enterprises for goods delivered, sold to each other, securities and services rendered, carried out by mutual offset, based on the terms of the balance of payments.


          By barter or barter exchange is meant such an exchange agreement, in which there is a transfer of ownership of the objects of the agreement between its parties without the use of means of payment (for example, money).


          That's just usurers this oh, how not to like. wink
  7. INVESTOR
    INVESTOR 29 July 2015 06: 53
    +1
    In the long run, it will not be lower than 45, but it is worth considering that our resources would be traded in our currency and sold for it. But such an option to push through bloodlessly does not work.
    1. anip
      anip 29 July 2015 07: 47
      0
      Quote: INVESTOR
      In the long run, below 45 will not be

      Do you still hope that the dollar drops to 45 rubles ??? This hope could have been somehow justified in March this year, and now, God forbid, to return to 51 rubles.
      1. INVESTOR
        INVESTOR 29 July 2015 10: 40
        +2
        Quote: anip
        Quote: INVESTOR
        In the long run, below 45 will not be

        Do you still hope that the dollar drops to 45 rubles ??? This hope could have been somehow justified in March this year, and now, God forbid, to return to 51 rubles.


        No, I'm talking about oil, dear.
  8. Gilev georgy
    Gilev georgy 29 July 2015 07: 00
    +4
    Petrol will rise in price
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 29 July 2015 07: 14
      +1
      Gasoline will rise in price, and buckwheat with it .. smile
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 29 July 2015 07: 33
        +3
        Quote: parusnik
        Gasoline will rise in price, and buckwheat with it .. smile

        Here on the site was a vocal group of cheerleaders, rooting for Iran. What was ordered, then received, if you please eat.
        True, this does not negate the fact that Obama is a freak with the letter M. If not for his order, hell would Kerry signed with Iran, and certainly not what he signed. Now all the hope is for Congress that they will either crush the entire treaty, or hang around it with such amendments that Iran will scream "we did not agree so!"
        1. Klim2011
          Klim2011 29 July 2015 08: 07
          +1
          Unfortunately, Iranian oil is not all, they have already expressed their readiness to join the Nabuko West gas pipeline by purchasing a 20% stake in this project.
        2. parusnik
          parusnik 29 July 2015 08: 47
          0
          So it’s understandable, somehow I don’t doubt that it will be so ...
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        4. U-47
          U-47 29 July 2015 10: 24
          +2
          Quote: Nagan
          Here on the site was a vocal group of cheerleaders, rooting for Iran.

          yes it is from stupidity. They are ready to write anyone as a friend. It is enough to fill in the questionnaire, where the first question is "Your attitude to America!" with multiple answers: "I hate, I can't eat!", "into radioactive ash!" and "how to get a US visa?"
        5. Governor
          Governor 29 July 2015 12: 36
          0
          Well, yes, the fate of the Russian economy is decided in the US Congress ... The flight is normal. Putin forward!
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    3. U-47
      U-47 29 July 2015 07: 25
      0
      Quote: Gilev Georgy
      Petrol will rise in price

      with cheaper oil? And what, with us it is quite possible.
      1. EGOrkka
        EGOrkka 29 July 2015 17: 36
        0
        "Whistlers" came running-sho? Is your computer a mustache bad? a guard? -you are in your country .... I don't want to, but what do we need?
    4. anip
      anip 29 July 2015 07: 44
      +11
      Quote: INVESTOR
      Petrol will rise in price

      Why is it going up in price? He's just getting more expensive. And it has already risen in price.

      One winter, Putin was surprised that the price of oil was falling, while gasoline in the Russian Federation was getting more expensive. So gasoline instantly fell in price already kopecks for 20-30. Then I also said that the oligarchs "respected" the godfather, and spring-summer will come, the price will start to rise again, so the cheers-putriots have stuck cons. And now cheers-putriots, what do you say? Gasoline went up in price not by 20-30 kopecks, but by a ruble or two.
      1. U-47
        U-47 29 July 2015 07: 47
        0
        Quote: anip
        Once in winter, Putin was surprised that the price of oil was falling, while gasoline in Russia was getting more expensive. So gasoline immediately fell in price by as much as 20-30 kopecks. Then I also said that the oligarchs "respected" the godfather

        and what - Guarantor - the main market regulator! laughing
      2. U-47
        U-47 29 July 2015 07: 47
        0
        Quote: anip
        Once in winter, Putin was surprised that the price of oil was falling, while gasoline in Russia was getting more expensive. So gasoline immediately fell in price by as much as 20-30 kopecks. Then I also said that the oligarchs "respected" the godfather

        and what - Guarantor - the main market regulator! laughing
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 29 July 2015 07: 07
    +2
    The forecasts are certainly depressing. But do not forget that in all Western forecasts of Russia, the role of a country dying in the world's backyards is assigned. Therefore, it is possible that it is still not as bad as the West would like. Wait and see.
  10. parusnik
    parusnik 29 July 2015 07: 20
    +3
    How many rumors strike our ears
    How much gossip erodes, like a moth!
    There are rumors that everything will rise in price - absolutely,
    - A especially - table salt!
    And like flies, here and there rumors go round and round,
    A toothless old women They smash their minds!
    They are spread across the minds!
    - Listen, have you heard? Build a city underground
    - So they say - in case of a nuclear war!
    “Have you heard?” Soon the baths will be closed
    - everywhere - Forever, - and this information is true! .....
  11. kostik1301
    kostik1301 29 July 2015 07: 29
    +6
    It’s time for a long time ago to change the oligarchic vertical of power tied to the raw materials economy, otherwise the people will repeat the 17th year, the GDP and the Ladies will only hang noodles about the development of their own industry, but not something they haven’t taken for a long time, it’s time to ban the circulation of the dollar in the Russian Federation ........
    1. anip
      anip 29 July 2015 07: 37
      +6
      Quote: kostik1301
      GDP and DAM are just hanging noodles about the development of their own industry, but they haven’t done anything for a long time. It’s time to ban the circulation of the dollar in the Russian Federation.

      Yes, it is not necessary to ban the dollar, but to trim yourself and your friends so that they steal less and build factories.
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 29 July 2015 11: 00
      0
      Quote: kostik1301
      It's time to ban the circulation of the dollar in the Russian Federation

      It was forbidden in the USSR - right up to the highest measure, but the dollar went all the same. And German marks had to be held in hands, and Finnish. Despite the fact that I was neither a sailor, nor a diplomat, nor anyone else who went over the hill.
  12. anip
    anip 29 July 2015 07: 35
    +2
    The head of the Ministry of Economic Development, Alexei Ulyukaev, said on the Russia 24 television channel that the ruble would be “within its fundamental values”

    I wonder what these values ​​are that are "fundamental"? 27, 37, 52 or 88 rubles per dollar? It would be more specific.

    However, he further noted, writes Lenta.ru, that the main factors determining the ruble exchange rate are oil prices and the dynamics of the balance of payments: “We see that there is a decline: now 54 is the current price of a barrel of our oil, the average annual price is 57. If the dynamics will be the same - 57 or so will remain, then the exchange rates will be approximately the same as we observe today. ”

    ABOUT!!! The cost of oil !!! So how do the putriots like to speculate here about some kind of economy in Russia, different from the raw material one? There is no economy in Russia, except for raw materials, but the putriots, despite the objective factors, will still shout "glory".
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    2. U-47
      U-47 29 July 2015 08: 55
      -1
      Quote: anip
      There is no economy in Russia, except for raw materials

      and we are not alone. Bargains from the ass, too, in the 60s due to the black yushke got out. But they are not embarrassed by the mother oil in case of gratitude to declare.
      Quote: anip
      yell "glory".

      ... columns of demonstrators carry banners past the Mausoleum "Long live the party's line on import substitution!", "Peace-oil-gas!" ...
    3. Days
      Days 29 July 2015 09: 10
      0
      The share of raw materials in Russian exports is less than 50%. The share of raw materials in Russia's GDP is about 15%.
      The share of raw materials in Norwegian exports is about 70%.
      The share of raw materials in Australia's exports is about 50%.
      The share of raw materials in Canadian exports is about 20%.

      Your (not yours, but you repeat it) liberal myth turned out to be a lie, since Norway, Australia and Canada have a powerful economy, while remaining large exporters of raw materials:


      All-prowling liberals like to talk about a swamp instead of Russia because they do not like Russia. Congratulations, you are among them. And here's a little more truth for you instead of Western noodles: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursure_resource
      1. sds87
        sds87 29 July 2015 12: 59
        +1
        The whole question is who gets the money in the end. In Russia - only to oligarchs. For the people and their country, there is no money and is not expected at any oil price. The factories around the country, as they were closed before Putin, are closed under him. New industries are negligible and they all belong to oligarchs. The people there get a pittance and there is not enough work for everyone. We have had a long period with high oil prices. What's the bottom line? A bunch of rich oligarchs, but the country received a miserable amount from these "rabid bucks". As a result, in 2015, 1/6 of the population of Russia is below the poverty line! And for this, thanks to the liberal Putin and Medvedev with his government.
        1. Days
          Days 29 July 2015 16: 02
          -3
          So the matter is no longer in raw materials, but in something else? Yeah, they switched to another liberal myth. Now nothing is being built in Russia. OK, here are the facts refuting this to you: http://sdelanounas.ru/staticpages/?id=101 And having switched to another myth, let us blame the refutation of the past myth, so that it would not be bad.

          In Russia, the standard of living is really lower, but probably you want to return Yeltsin? Or Gorbachev? Then it was expanse with food stamps on the cheapest paper! Better yet, let's make a revolution to make the next economic downturn, like at the beginning and at the end of the last century.
        2. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 30 July 2015 06: 38
          0
          Quote: sds87
          For the people and their country, there is no money and is not expected at any oil prices.

          How many cars did you have in 1999? Today?
          Quote: sds87
          Production in the country, as it closed before Putin, and when it is closed.

          http://sdelanounas.ru/
  13. U-47
    U-47 29 July 2015 07: 42
    +1
    The collapse of prices "will test the strength" of the optimism of President Vladimir Putin, who recently said that Russia has left behind the worst stage of the economic crisis.
    But what is there to experience? When there was the first push in 2008, we survived it relatively painlessly, gloatingly watching the convulsions of the markets. And then they announced the genius of the presidential team, the foresight of economists and other nonsense. Although the reason is more than commonplace - oil was expensive. Today there is no reason for optimism. Yankees are manipulating futures, Iran will bring OPEC to the zugunder. The collapse of the Union, I remember, began in 1986, when the price collapsed six times. No parallels, but ...
  14. Sanain
    Sanain 29 July 2015 07: 43
    +3
    Yes, do not be afraid, you will not be below 45, otherwise it will not be profitable for amers with their shale oil. Although their companies are starting to whine now, although the price seems to be within the limits (for them) of the norm.

    Plus, they have already experienced the painful experience of low prices, so in the near future there will most likely be an increase in order to compensate for the losses of shale companies.
  15. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 29 July 2015 07: 58
    +5
    Russia does not have to meddle in forecasts, because the reality is that they rule the world economy of the United States, which needs to ruin Russia, and the Russian economy on the world market is a small, insignificant piece that can be neglected on a global scale, and to strengthen and develop its internal the economy.
    In order to prevent external forces from destroying the country, the domestic economy must be made stable, which is possible, because Russia is a self-sufficient country.
    And you need to start from the head-to tidy up the link that controls the country's economy, which seems very problematic, because our leading economists meticulously follow the dogmas of the modern pro-American economy, the observance of which always leads to a profitable for the dollar.
    Russia needs specialists with an independent view, and not miscarriages of American universities.
    Today we need a mobilization economy, and it can only be borrowed from the socialist system. First of all, this is sufficient food production in the country itself, because imported from outside may be inaccessible for the population due to the crisis of the world economy. Secondly, it is urgent to stop subsidizing the oil and gas sector revenues from adverse global market factors due to the domestic market (this is an increase in energy prices in the domestic market and with the rise and fall of world prices) . Russia is a country with a harsh climate and a large territory, but with sufficient energy resources. What's going on? Russia's energy resources are more accessible in countries with a warm climate in places of compact population living than in the country itself.
    1. sds87
      sds87 29 July 2015 13: 06
      +1
      Russia is a self-sufficient country

      In a country where there are no machines of its own, where a huge number of vital things are bought abroad, a country whose constitution is written by the US State Department, the Central Bank is governed from the outside, and the government is concerned about accounts and real estate outside Russia - it cannot be a self-sufficient country!
    2. EGOrkka
      EGOrkka 29 July 2015 17: 32
      +1
      ... at least you look at the Internet for an example and compare how much grain was grown in the USSR and in today's Russia !!!!! And then write experiments.
  16. nemec55
    nemec55 29 July 2015 08: 15
    0
    We do not have normal personnel and will not, a thief on a thief sitting as a thief chasing.
    The price of oil is falling. Oil is rising. What kind of garbage in general, I would have agreed they stood still but when it is growing it’s
    1. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 29 July 2015 08: 21
      -7
      Quote: nemec55
      We do not have normal personnel and will not, a thief on a thief sitting as a thief chasing.

      DO NOT scold your country. With similar sentiments in the last century, TWICE destroyed our country. You criticize, offer a way out.


      Quote: nemec55
      What kind of garbage is this, I would agree they were still standing still, but when it’s growing it’s

      This is the result of the loss in the Cold War of the USSR and its subsequent dismemberment by corrupt brainless communists in 1991.
      1. nemec55
        nemec55 29 July 2015 08: 30
        +5
        DO NOT scold your country.

        Not a country, PEOPLE !!!!!!!
        I am rural and in my work dangled through villages in different regions of Russia
        This is unthinkable when in the village the head of the administration steals insolently (a car for 1500000 new houses, etc.) and people live? * (:% (?:% (?:
        1. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 29 July 2015 08: 53
          -5
          Quote: nemec55
          Not a country, PEOPLE !!!!!!!

          At the end of the Soviet regime, they scolded corrupt officials, how did it end?

          Quote: nemec55
          This is unthinkable when in the village the head of the administration steals insolently (a car for 1500000 new houses, etc.) and people live? * (:% (?:% (?:


          Who's stopping you from stopping whining and getting down to business?

          Self-management.







          Write a collective statement to the prosecutor. Write on the president’s website www.kremlin.ru
          1. nemec55
            nemec55 29 July 2015 10: 18
            +3
            laughing You know, I catch a glimpse of the system one for all and all for one and I know how the chain grows to the head
            They will erase it into powder and there will be no dust. Moreover, knowing the history and the fact that for hundreds of years nothing has changed, this is a bunch in a puddle.
            Try not to whine, and so on, you tell your children
            I tried not to ache and that as a result I sat without work and money until I went away and there is no, and here they make themselves felt.
            ALL TALK IS NOT ABOUT THAT BOLD POINT
          2. EGOrkka
            EGOrkka 29 July 2015 17: 14
            0
            ..... maybe Farian. And ??? complain - she, as a former communist and maydaun, will surely "correctly" tell you what to do ????????
    2. EGOrkka
      EGOrkka 29 July 2015 17: 29
      0
      Yes, all the frames in the ruin ...... or not there are still gogo options !!! Wait for the ties and come to help you!
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  18. GUKTU
    GUKTU 29 July 2015 08: 28
    +1
    Maybe our government can try to develop other industries that can successfully compete in the global market ... Well, on the account of the lost profit by our oil and gas kings, we can say that they (the kings) will get it from us by raising tariffs. They love currency so much
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    2. U-47
      U-47 29 July 2015 09: 15
      -1
      Quote: GUKTU
      to develop other industries capable of successfully competing in the global market ...

      which for example? Light industry? Engineering? High tech?
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 29 July 2015 11: 10
        +5
        Quote: U-47
        which for example? Light industry? Engineering? High tech?

        Just defense left. And she is more and more backlog from the time of the USSR. And that soon the Chinas from the market put up. It certainly copies worse than the originals, but if at half price? And some, including here on the site, rejoice when the narrow-eyed latest models are provided for copying.
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        2. U-47
          U-47 29 July 2015 11: 26
          +2
          Quote: Nagan
          Just defense left.

          our everything is No. 2. After Pushkin (by the way, also quite a weapons name ..)
          Quote: Nagan
          And she is more and more backlog from the time of the USSR.

          not quite like that. NTR forced to update the machine park. The best examples of Western scientific and technical thought in the service of the Fatherland! But, thanks to the eggs, according to the Gaidar shooting list, not everyone was allowed to go under the knife. What did he want to release in Komsomolsk-on-Amur instead of Sushki? Chinese bicycles, it seems?
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 29 July 2015 21: 22
            +2
            Russian bicycles for the Chinese.
      2. EGOrkka
        EGOrkka 29 July 2015 17: 27
        -1
        Space industry - satellite output. Nuclear industry - production of nuclear reactors and power generation. Mining industry - raw materials. Agro industry-the production of meat and grain .... vskidku.
  19. vladimirw
    vladimirw 29 July 2015 08: 29
    +3
    put + the article gives an analysis, does not give concrete proposals, but for this there is a government that should work in the interests of the people and the state, and not in the interests of corporations. Maybe it’s time to make sure that energy resources for the people and industry in the Russian Federation should be much lower than in the foreign market? Then this will be the impetus for the development of its own economy and will attract foreign entrepreneurs to create industries in Russia. this is the opinion of a couch expert, but tell me what is wrong here?
    In the meantime, prices are rising for everything, for utilities - the money goes into someone’s pocket and nothing is done. we must abandon the idiocy of a market, liberal economy. This market will finally ruin the country
  20. tungus
    tungus 29 July 2015 08: 46
    +2
    Quote: mirag2
    10 $ per barrel?
    -Easy.
    If only the world economy will not tear up, but it will not.

    She will not tear. And ten dollars may well be. Not for long. With half a year.
    The problem is that there is no cheap oil in the world. Cheap in terms of production costs. She deflated in the seventies and eighties. Now, Canada’s expensive oil-bitumen sands, Venezuelan heavy oil, US shale, Russian Arctic oil, etc. are being mined. As for Iran and the Saudis, everything is not good there. It is not for nothing that the Saudis invest in American shale and secret their proven reserves. Its oil is running out.
    There is no more cheap oil in the world and will no longer be. When prices fall, everyone will begin to curtail exploration and drilling of new wells. Everything. From half a year they will pump already developed fields at a loss to themselves, since the cost of ALL is significantly higher than 10 dollars, but do not stop the process ... And then the ass will come. Because without new wells, production will fall from month to month. And at one point, the produced oil is stupidly not enough for everyone. This is exactly what will happen about half a year after stopping the development of new deposits.
    And that’s it. The price of oil will go to heaven. And what is most sad, they will not be able to quickly compensate for the shortage. It will take about two years for the offer to become equal to demand again. This is at best, according to the most optimistic forecasts. And at worst, the oil shortage will never disappear. Just because many companies go broke at a low price, many investors will lose money and leave the market. And then the war for resources will begin. Here are such things.
    1. Former
      Former 29 July 2015 10: 09
      +2
      As a specialist, he worked in the oil and gas industry and completely agrees with you.
      -It is difficult and costly to extract oil, and according to familiar geologists, in the Arab countries everything is not so rosy with reserves in the depths (but it is many times easier to extract oil there than in Siberia - our fields are mostly "lens", at a depth of 3 km (in average), while the Arabs have whole seas and lakes at a depth of sometimes 100m.)

      All this is understandable, but HOW to survive the time of the notorious "10 bucks"?
      And of course, the point is not even the price of oil.
      I'm not an alarmist, but 50% (at least) of the equipment used in the "oil industry" (I call it that and gas production) is imported.

      Now my ex-young colleague is considering the project of the field and constantly calls me
      -And it can be thrown out?
      -And this?
      Damn, and this is a GAS field, with a working pressure of 100 kgf / cm2!

      Of course, there are pluses, for example, at my construction site there appeared electric drives of the fuel and energy complex together with the disgusting AUM, but something, alas, is not produced in Russia
      -For example, almost all GPPPs are SAT, Cummings, Embacher (about SVP systems, without which, for example, there is no offshore drilling, offshore platform support vessels (almost none own), offshore platform production

      Damn, there would be enough strength to survive the next "perestroika" ...
      How all this got - 30 years of solid shnyaga ...
    2. anfil
      anfil 29 July 2015 15: 09
      0
      For 10 Baku already pushing to the fullest, ISIS for the United States and it was created that now oil on 10 $ comes from Libya, Iraq, Syria from wherever ISIS settled.
      Guess who buys it !?
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      2. atalef
        atalef 29 July 2015 15: 16
        +1
        Quote: anfil
        For 10 Baku already pushing to the fullest, ISIS for the United States and it was created that now $ 10 oil comes from Libya, Iraq, Syria from wherever ISIS settled. Guess who buys it !?

        Well, first of all, there is no ISIS in Libya and it cannot be a priori
        Farther . 10 dollars do not sell. and if they sell, then this amount of oil is so scanty that it has no role in pricing
        Yes, by the way, who is buying? Actually Turkey.
  21. anfil
    anfil 29 July 2015 08: 46
    +1
    How much does Russia depend on oil prices

    ... The dependence of our budget on oil since the liberal nineties has seriously decreased. We have accumulated enough fat to calmly survive any decline in oil prices.

    Therefore, it is not necessary to monitor the cost of a barrel too closely: stock exchange oil prices will significantly affect our economy only if they get stuck at a mark below 50 dollars for a period of several years.
    link:http://www.odnako.org/blogs/naskolko-silno-zavisit-rossiya-ot-cen-na-neft/
    Oil needle
    The myth that Russia is "sitting on an oil needle" is widespread. Proponents of this myth argue that the Russian economy is supposedly based almost exclusively on hydrocarbon exports, and if the volume of these exports decreases or the price of oil falls significantly, this will allegedly lead to a complete economic collapse of Russia.

    This myth is widespread both among Russian all-crawlers and in the West - for example, some representatives of the US political elite call Russia “Big Gas Station”.

    In reality, the extraction of fuel and energy minerals occupies only 21% in the structure of our industry, while the contribution of oil and gas revenues to Russia's GDP does not exceed 16%.
    It is important to distinguish between the share of hydrocarbons in GDP (16%) and the share of hydrocarbons in exports (from 40 to 50%). An inconspicuous substitution of the first indicator with the second is often used to create the impression that "everything is lost."

    The share of oil exports in Russia's GDP

    Russia's GDP for the 2013 year amounted to 2113 billion US dollars. Oil export for 2013 year amounted to 173 billion dollars. (gas 67 billion dollars) We divide one into another, we get 8% (gas 3%). If we take the figures for 2012 year and divide 181 billion by 1954, we get 9%, that is, we can even say that the share of oil exports in GDP is reduced.

    In the light of these data, Russia can be ranked among the oil countries very conditionally. We can only say that Russia is an oil country in terms of geopolitics, since the Russian Federation is a large country and exports enough oil to seriously affect world events. However, Russia is not an oil country in terms of GDP composition: oil for Russia is many times less important than for truly oil countries.
    1. Days
      Days 29 July 2015 09: 53
      -6
      Yes, that's right, I also write about this often, only liberals fed noodles from the State Department do not care, they just like to scold Russia. And the United States is thus trying to gain a critical mass of protesters in order to once again send the former Russian Empire into the chaos of revolution.
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      2. U-47
        U-47 29 July 2015 11: 08
        +1
        Quote: Dagen
        Yes, that's right, I also write about this often, only liberals fed noodles from the State Department do not care, they just like to scold Russia.

        To be fair: you don't write, you rewrite. Disputes about the "needle" are pointless from the outset. Your argumentation is nothing for the average layman who practices not monitoring stock quotes and comparative infographics or reading at night reading lengthy releases from egg-headed economists, but banal shopping trips.
        Quote: Dagen
        And the US is trying

        What? transfer Russia to external control? In part, she achieved her goal, alas.
        1. Days
          Days 29 July 2015 14: 59
          -2
          Seriously? And how do your comments and arguments differ from my comments and arguments?

          Yes, especially under Yeltsin.
      3. dmb
        dmb 29 July 2015 11: 57
        +6
        Vaughn, how. It turns out that the people of the Russian Empire were enraged with fat when the tsar-priest and the capitalists decided to drive the landowners. Very very correct advice. And the current Voltaireans, the Sicilists are damned. There is no present priest and his faithful patriots, comrades-in-arms for raising prices and the next summit to thank them, they are really dissatisfied with something, agents of the State Department are damned. I saw a few days ago, terribly bastards were unhappy at the store buying bread and milk and saying that there might not be enough pensions for this.
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        2. U-47
          U-47 29 July 2015 12: 42
          -1
          Quote: dmb
          I saw a few days ago, terribly bastards were unhappy at the store buying bread and milk and saying that there might not be enough pensions for this.

          I hope the cashier tactfully explained to them that
          Quote: Dagen
          The United States is thus trying to gain a critical mass of protesters to once again send the former Russian Empire into the chaos of revolution.
          And what are they
          Quote: Dagen
          liberals fed noodles from the State Department
        3. Days
          Days 29 July 2015 15: 04
          -3
          Quote: dmb
          It turns out that the people of the Russian Empire were enraged with fat when the tsar-priest and the capitalists decided to drive the landowners.


          Well, who’s talking about. I will reveal a great secret: in order to improve our country, it does not need to be destroyed. It is impossible to destroy. And I spoke just about this, and campaigned to sit ass on exactly benches, waiting for the abolition of serfdom.

          And you, sir, do you want another revolution for Russia?
          1. Rastas
            Rastas 29 July 2015 15: 19
            +2
            Revolution is the engine of history. When will people like you understand that they arise where the contradictions between the opposing sides cannot be resolved differently, where the government serves its own interests. All countries underwent revolutions, all revolutions were different, but only after revolutions, countries such as England, the USA, France, Japan, China, the USSR, Germany embarked on the path of progress and development. But there were other countries - Spain, Portugal, the Ottoman Empire until the beginning of the 20th century lived without any special internal social upheavals, quietly and calmly degraded. And from the great powers in which the sun did not set, they turned into backward dependent states that lost all their possessions.
            1. Days
              Days 29 July 2015 17: 49
              -1
              State Department propaganda and lies.

              Remind me, when was the last time a revolution in the UK (where the sun never set)? 1640 year. A dozen years of the republic and decline, after which the monarchy was restored and further Britain moved along the path of progress without revolution.

              Remind me, when was the last revolution in the USA? US War of Independence 1775-1783. Further progress without revolutions, except that there was a war of the current US government against the southern states that refused to recognize the abolition of slavery. The events of the same years as the abolition of serfdom in the Russian Empire.

              Remind me of how many revolutions in Russia over the past century have been and what upheavals they have spilled.

              See what happens to the Ukrainian economy, in which there are chronic revolutions.

              When, however, liberals like you will understand that revolutions arise only where the central government is weakening, which leads to a crisis and the decline of the whole country.
              1. Rastas
                Rastas 29 July 2015 22: 33
                +2
                Listen to what you are talking about? You at least learn what the revolution brought to England. It was thanks to it that the unlimited monarchy was destroyed, thanks to it feudalism was broken and the country moved on to the capitalist path of development, which for that time was certainly progress. France, thanks to its revolution, broke the feudal system and became a single nation without estate division. thanks to revolutions, Greece, the countries of Latin America and Indochina became free. Thanks to the revolution, the unification of Italy and Germany took place. In Japan, as a result of the Meiji revolution, the power of the shogunate was destroyed and Japan began to develop rapidly. Thanks to the revolution, China from a backward, fragmented country has become a powerful rapidly developing country. Thanks to the revolution in Iran, the country destroyed the shah’s corrupt clan power. But people like you do not know anything about the liberation movements, have not read about them.
              2. Rastas
                Rastas 29 July 2015 22: 36
                +1
                When you call the Maidan a revolution, then you sign that you do not even know what a revolution is. And how does a revolution differ, say, from a palace coup or rebellion. In Ukraine, as in Georgia, Kyrgyzstan, there were no revolutions. What is the revolution if you simply changed one president to another. In Russia, Catherine overthrew her husband Peter III, and Alexander overthrew her father Paul. But this was not called a revolution.
      4. Uncle Joe
        Uncle Joe 29 July 2015 17: 08
        -1
        Quote: anfil
        The myth that Russia "sits on an oil needle" is widespread
        Quote: Dagen
        Yes, that's right, I also write about this often, only liberals fed noodles from the State Department do not care, they just like to scold Russia
        Well, yes - a myth, liberals, the State Department ...

        The "oil needle" is characterized not by the share of oil and gas in GDP, not by the volume of energy exports, but by a significant share of revenues from oil and gas in the budget.
        The share of oil and gas revenues in the budget of the USSR did not exceed 5%, and in the budget of the Russian Federation = (+ -) 50%
        1. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 29 July 2015 17: 14
          0
          Quote: Uncle Joe
          The "oil needle" is characterized not by the share of oil and gas in GDP, not by the volume of energy exports, but by a significant share of revenues from oil and gas in the budget

          The countries of victorious Satanism are sitting on the oil needle, they need our oil, gas, forest, etc.
        2. Days
          Days 29 July 2015 17: 53
          0
          Pff. Yes, the State Department and the liberals, and you yourself are a liberal and spread this myth. A high percentage of raw materials in the export structure speaks primarily about rich minerals. Well, for liberals with noodles on their ears, this is an occasion to scold Russia, of course.

          Quote: Dagen
          The share of raw materials in Russian exports is less than 50%. The share of raw materials in Russia's GDP is about 15%.
          The share of raw materials in Norwegian exports is about 70%.
          The share of raw materials in Australia's exports is about 50%.
          The share of raw materials in Canadian exports is about 20%.

          Your (not yours, but you repeat it) liberal myth turned out to be a lie, since Norway, Australia and Canada have a powerful economy, while remaining large exporters of raw materials:


          All-prowling liberals like to talk about a swamp instead of Russia because they do not like Russia. Congratulations, you are among them. And here's a little more truth for you instead of Western noodles: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursure_resource
          1. Uncle Joe
            Uncle Joe 29 July 2015 19: 53
            0
            Quote: Dagen
            A high percentage of raw materials in the export structure speaks primarily about rich minerals
            Can you read Russian?

            Quote: Uncle Joe
            "Oil needle" is characterized not by the share of oil and gas in GDP, not by the volume of energy exports, a significant share of oil and gas revenues in the budget
            1. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 29 July 2015 20: 11
              +1
              Quote: Uncle Joe
              Can you read Russian?

              Sit on the needle. Zharg. pier., drug. Use drugs regularly (intravenously). CSF, 95; Vakhitov 2003, 165.

              That is, the inability to live without drugs. We draw an analogy with oil, this is when countries CANNOT live without oil, and this is the West, it is also the countries of victorious Satanism, your direct masters.
              In your words, the "oil needle" is characterized by a significant share of oil and gas consumption.
            2. Days
              Days 29 July 2015 21: 07
              -1
              Quote: Uncle Joe
              Quote: Dagen
              A high percentage of raw materials in the export structure speaks primarily about rich minerals
              Can you read Russian?

              Quote: Uncle Joe
              "Oil needle" is characterized not by the share of oil and gas in GDP, not by the volume of energy exports, a significant share of oil and gas revenues in the budget

              I can. And you do not know how to admit that you were wrong?

              Norway:
              Gas and oil in export 51%in budget revenues 36%.
              All raw materials in export 70%in budget revenues of about 50%.
              Source of income from the oil and gas sector (separately, all raw materials are not there, only the oil and gas sector): Norway's budget for 2015 http://www.statsbudsjettet.no/Upload/Statsbudsjett_2015/dokumenter/pdf/national_
              budget2015.pdf

              Half - a small fraction?

              Comparison with Russia:
              All raw materials in export 49%in budget revenues of about 41%.
              1. Uncle Joe
                Uncle Joe 29 July 2015 21: 34
                -2
                Quote: Dagen
                Norway:
                Gas and oil in export 51%in budget revenues 36%
                1 Nobody ever said that Norway doesn’t sit on the same needle (they always said exactly the opposite)

                2 The share of this needle in the budget of Norway is still 36% (despite the fact that about 90% of all oil revenues fall into the budget), and in the Russian Federation + - 50% (despite the fact that 50% of oil and gas revenues fall into the budget )

                3 Norway has nothing other than fish and oil from resources (I’m somewhat trying), while the Russian Federation has everything, but the Russian economy is raw in the same degree as the Norwegian economy.

                Do you make conclusions yourself?
                1. Days
                  Days 30 July 2015 02: 47
                  -1
                  Again a lie. An attempt to lie directly, although he gave links to the source from official budget sites. Ministry of Finance website, budget for 2015: http://www.minfin.ru/en/perfomance/budget/federal_budget/budgeti/11-14/

                  What 50%, if only wrote above that 41% in the budget? In Norway, just more of all raw materials gives to the budget. Your liberal tale has failed; this does not prevent Norway from being a developed economy.

                  Yeah, lie more, there is nothing but fish. A pancake agent of the State Department who does not know basic things. Probably they don't pay you at all, on the contrary, do you pay to be considered an agent of the State Department and to breed such "agitation"? It was sarcasm about the agent.

                  https://atlas.media.mit.edu/ru/explore/tree_map/hs/export/nor/all/show/2012/
                  Then select "View as text":

                  # HS Name Value (USD) Percent
                  1 2709 Crude oil 35.67%
                  2 2711 Petroleum gas 26.00%
                  3 2710 Oil products 5.33%
                  5 7601 Raw material Aluminum 1.91%
                  8 7502 Raw material nickel 0.99%
                  9 7202 Ferroalloys 0.90%
                  15 3105 Mixed fertilizers 0.62%
                  16 2901 Acyclic hydrocarbons 0.56%
                  17 2924 Carboxyamide compounds 0.39%
                  19 7606 Aluminum Coated 0.36%
                  21 2804 Hydrogen 0.33%
                  22 2601 Iron ore 0.30%
                  23 7110 Platinum 0.30%
                  26 8481 Fittings 0.28%
                  30 7108 Gold 0.25%
                  34 7403 Refined copper 0.23%
                  37 7901 Raw zinc 0.19% - $301,929,107.83
                  1. Uncle Joe
                    Uncle Joe 30 July 2015 03: 54
                    0
                    Quote: Dagen
                    Again a lie
                    In which place?

                    Ministry of Finance website, budget for 2015
                    My dear man, tell me - in what ear is buzzing in me, what is the use of focusing on the currently unfulfilled budget?

                    The share of oil and gas revenues in the 2014 budget is 48%
                    http://www.vestifinance.ru/infographics/4003

                    "At the same time, it is planned that the share of oil and gas revenues in the overall structure of federal budget revenues will decrease from 51 percent in 2015 to 50,8 percent in 2016 and to 49,6 percent in 2017."
                    http://www.rg.ru/2014/10/01/dohodi-site-anons.html

                    What 50%, if only wrote above that 41% in the budget?
                    ??

                    Text view
                    Well?
                    1. Days
                      Days 30 July 2015 12: 43
                      -1
                      Yeah, it’s better to focus on an article in the News program than on the source, they know better than the budget laughing

                      I hope you can read and you can see that Norway exports a huge amount of raw materials, not only oil and gas. Yes, my numbers are just about raw materials, not about processed products.

                      But this is particular, even with your figures from Vesti, your lies about the oil-raw materials myth remained a lie. The State Department has nothing to do with it, as well as the export of oil / raw materials, since we have just considered that Norway is developing well, having even large numbers of raw materials in exports (70%) and in the budget (50%).

                      Well, more precisely, since, due to the stupidity of all sorts of Uncle Joe and similar liberals, the State Department manages to scold Russia quite successfully and try to get the Maidan up, coming up with reasons.
                      1. Uncle Joe
                        Uncle Joe 30 July 2015 15: 20
                        -1
                        Quote: Dagen
                        Yeah, it’s better to focus on the article in the News program than on the source
                        The "Primary Source" changes its forecasts 10 times a year and has not yet published the 2014 budget execution report, so it's normal.

                        There are no complaints about the link to the government publication?

                        you can see that Norway exports a huge amount of raw materials
                        Oil, petroleum gas, aluminum raw materials, nickel raw materials, and about 150 (out of 1166) items that are a by-product of the main industries and have a small share in the economy.
                        And in Russia, almost the entire periodic table can be produced on an industrial scale, which means that the self-sufficiency of the economy is potentially complete, but something does not grow together.

                        even with your numbers from Vesti, your lies about the oil resource myth remained a lie
                        Well, the stump is clear - there are all prerequisites to be a leader and fully provide yourself with everything you need, but the budget consists of 50% of oil and gas money, and this is a lie! wassat

                        Norway develops well having even big numbers of raw materials in export (70%) and in the budget (50%)
                        My dear man - do you understand the difference between the export of raw materials and the presence of a FULL (can be developed on an industrial scale) mineral resource base, or where?

                        What are 50% of raw materials in the budget of Norway, if we are talking specifically about oil and gas revenues, and above you yourself write that there are not 50, but 36% there?

                        State Department manages to quite successfully scold Russia and try to get the Maidan
                        With the wording "to scold successfully" (can you scold unsuccessfully? belay ) and maydanophobia - to a psychiatrist.
                      2. Days
                        Days 30 July 2015 17: 25
                        -1
                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        And in Russia, almost the entire periodic table can be produced on an industrial scale, which means that the self-sufficiency of the economy is potentially complete, but something does not grow together.

                        Nevertheless, Norway's raw material exports in terms of percentage composition are close to Russian raw materials exports. The links above. It just seemed to me, or are you now scolding Russia due to the fact that Russia produces little raw material?))

                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        What are 50% of raw materials in the budget of Norway, if we are talking specifically about oil and gas revenues, and higher You write yourselfthat them there не 50, and 36%?
                        Links to the Norwegian government budget website above. We are talking about your liberal lies towards Russia. There is no oil or raw material needle; this cannot be a source of criticism. Perhaps I will give you my words again, since you are already twisting them in the second round:


                        Norway budget 2015:
                        Gas and oil in export 51%, in budget revenues 36%.
                        All raw materials in export are 70%, in budget revenues about 50%.


                        And a little more truth, this time not from official financial sources, but from a government newspaper, everything as you like smile In 2014, the share of non-oil exports accounted for more than half of all exports - 51,5% (an increase over the year from 251 to 286 billion dollars). Source: http://vz.ru/economy/2015/6/15/750856.html

                        News a year earlier: Vladimir Putin, speaking last week at the SPIEF, announced the need to make a "technological revolution" and increase Russia's non-resource exports at a rate of 6% per year (by 40% by 2018, to $ 340 billion). Source: http://ria.ru/economy/20140529/1009879503.html

                        At this tragic moment for you (the title of liberal and defender of the interests of the State Department was poorly fulfilled) we say goodbye. You didn’t have any facts, you couldn’t refute any of the facts I have cited, instead, in a circle, I twist my own words. Until we meet again in the open spaces of the forum, the liberal all-crawler hi
                      3. Uncle Joe
                        Uncle Joe 30 July 2015 20: 14
                        0
                        Quote: Dagen
                        Nevertheless, Norway's raw material exports in percentage terms are close to Russia's raw materials exports
                        This is the problem: Norway is a small country, forced to occupy its economic niche and participate in the world division of labor. And the Russian Federation - 1/6 of the land, which, with the proper approach, potentially lacks the need to purchase the final product on foreign markets (but this potential is used at best by a quarter).

                        It just seemed to me, or are you now scolding Russia for the fact that Russia produces little raw material?
                        I do not criticize abstract Russia, but specific political and socio-economic systems that have led the country to the point that dependence on imports is at least 75% and continues to increase.

                        Links to Norway's government budget website above
                        What did you write - "Norway: Gas and oil in exports 51%, in budget revenues 36%"?

                        There is no oil or raw material needle; this cannot be a source of criticism.
                        There is - both Norway (forcedly) and the Russian Federation (because of the selfish interests of the ruling class, which are in conflict with the interests of the vast majority)

                        Perhaps I will give you my words again, since you are already twisting them in the second round:
                        Norway budget 2015:
                        Gas and oil in export 51%, in budget revenues 36%.
                        All raw materials in export are 70%, in budget revenues about 50%.
                        And I repeat to you once again that Norway is the same as the Russian Federation in the raw materials economy, and that it sits on the same "oil needle".

                        And if all raw materials in Norwegian exports are equal to 70%, then all raw materials in Russian exports are at least no less (but rather 10-20 percent more) - http: //xn--b1ae2adf4f.xn--p1ai/analytics/research/ 5866-analiz-export-import.html




                        Until we meet again in the open spaces of the forum, the liberal all-crawler
                        Breathe deeper, liberal-flickered.
                      4. VseDoFeNi
                        VseDoFeNi 30 July 2015 20: 47
                        +1
                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        This is the problem:

                        With this I also agree. But it began with the dismemberment of the USSR by corrupt brainless communists in 1991. And you know it, but you are trying to manipulate others.
                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        I do not criticize abstract Russia, but specific political and socio-economic systems that have led the country to the point that dependence on imports is at least 75% and continues to increase.

                        Your task is to denigrate Russia as much as possible, cause discontent among the people of Russia and, in the limit, destroy it for the third time. But you won’t be able to do this, no matter how hard you and your State Department bosses try.
                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        There is - both Norway (forcedly) and the Russian Federation (because of the selfish interests of the ruling class, which are in conflict with the interests of the vast majority)

                        I repeat to you once again, this is not Russia, and the countries of victorious Satanism are sitting on the oil needle, buying it all over the world, starting a war because of it.
                      5. Days
                        Days 31 July 2015 12: 36
                        0
                        Quote: VseDoFeNi
                        Your task is to denigrate Russia as much as possible, cause discontent among the people of Russia and, in the limit, destroy it for the third time.


                        Yes, and they do it too unprofessionally, turning and ignoring the official statistics and budget data and using some kind of pictures / articles.

                        Quote: VseDoFeNi
                        this is not Russia, but the countries of victorious Satanism are sitting on an oil needle
                        The most correct approach is to recall the raw materials crisis of 1973 and the ban on the export of oil extracted in the USA smile True, it is still necessary to develop production with high added value, of course.
          2. atalef
            atalef 29 July 2015 20: 05
            +1
            Quote: Dagen
            The share of raw materials in Russian exports is less than 50%. The share of raw materials in Russia's GDP is about 15%.
            The share of raw materials in Norwegian exports is about 70%.

            Well, what's the deal? Another 20% and you are in Norway !!!!!! (in the sense of her standard of living) laughing
            UEFI, debt is 23% of GDP, and in Japan - over 300%
            In Ethiopia, the standard of living is 10 times better than in Japan (well, I generally keep quiet about Luxemburg, with 3400% of them, they just fall asleep with one thought, as if to fall asleep today, and to wake up tomorrow - ETHIOPOM) wassat
            1. Days
              Days 29 July 2015 20: 40
              -1
              What is it for?

              You answer someone who claimed that the standard of living depends on external debt? There are no such statements above.

              Or maybe someone claimed that the standard of living depends on the amount of raw materials in export? No, I just showed the opposite.

              So just like grimacing?
              1. VseDoFeNi
                VseDoFeNi 31 July 2015 07: 45
                +2
                Quote: Dagen
                So just like grimacing?

                This is called an attempt to increase self-worth.
    2. Rastas
      Rastas 29 July 2015 15: 30
      +1
      In Russia, 52% of the budget revenue is generated from oil revenues. In 2003, such an indicator was at 2.5. times lower. And this data is not the State Department, but any of our government. Therefore, they talk about the oil needle, and the authorities themselves do not hide this, that they are sitting on it.
    3. padded jacket
      padded jacket 29 July 2015 15: 30
      0
      ISIS (ISIS) is not in Libya smile how many "lies" the "expert" - atalef has already given out during the day.
      ISIS: now also in Libya. data for 2014
      After Syria and Iraq, the Islamic state is gradually beginning to gain a foothold in Libya. According to the American general, ISIS fighters set up training camps in the east of the country. The presence of radical elements in Cyrenaica (a region in the east of the country) did not arise yesterday. American General David Rodriguez, in turn, believes that the militants of the Islamic state in Libya are not volunteers who came from abroad, but members of local groups who swore allegiance to the Islamic State.
      http://islam-today.ru/islam_v_mire/bliznij-vostok/igil-teper-ese-i-v-livii/
      IG seized airport in Libya
      Militants of the Islamic State group seized an airport in Libya, TASS reports.
      http://www.rg.ru/2015/05/29/aeroport-anons.html
  22. Jackking
    Jackking 29 July 2015 09: 04
    +4
    Well, where are the cheers-patriots who minus for the comparison with Ukraine? What do you say now? Lead in Ukraine the course has stabilized. And we have? But our friends, Nabibullina and Ulyukaev, did their best - we urgently need to cut the dough. And the people - and by ... the people, the main thing is to screw it over the hill in time.
    It is interesting that the prime minister will weave - probably, smokers are to blame for the collapse of the ruble ...
    1. solovey
      solovey 29 July 2015 09: 29
      0
      Hooray patriots here laughing nothing wrong - it happened and worse !!! It cannot last forever. But the second time we can’t lose !!! I ask alarmists to go wherever you want. Everything will be fine. We will win.
      1. Jackking
        Jackking 30 July 2015 16: 45
        0
        That's the problem - the "hurray" prefix. By the way, I have no doubts that we will win. But I would not like to win only after we have to physically uproot liberalism ...
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    3. Days
      Days 30 July 2015 17: 46
      0
      Quote: Jackking
      Lead in Ukraine the course has stabilized.

      Not certainly in that way. Or rather - not at all. Wild pressure on the hryvnia exchange rate remains, only now it is being restrained by spending gold and foreign exchange reserves:



      The last couple of months (after receiving the next part of the loan from the IMF), the reserves were not spent, but the hryvnia was creeping down (screenshot of average monthly rates):



      Source - Financial portal "MinFin" of Ukraine:
      http://index.minfin.com.ua/index/assets/
      http://index.minfin.com.ua/chart/?1&USD
  23. zmeigavrila
    zmeigavrila 29 July 2015 09: 34
    +1
    In the UAE, from August 1, gas prices will rise. Interest by about 25 at once. At today's rate for a liter of 95, about 34 rubles.
  24. zoknyay82
    zoknyay82 29 July 2015 09: 52
    0
    Quote: Stroporez
    Quote: ATATA
    Worldwide, gasoline is made from oil; in Russia gasoline is made from dollars.

    No, comrade, economic wise men in the power say that they make gas from excise taxes!
    This know-how has no analogues in the world.

    No, dear Stroporez, unfortunately gasoline, alcohol and many consumer goods are very dependent on the excise policy of the state.
  25. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 29 July 2015 10: 02
    +3
    Quote: Designer 1
    I won’t be surprised if, at $ 10 per barrel, ours will catch up with the price up to 60 rub / liter, but our poor oil workers need to somehow compensate for their losses wassat

    Do not want 150 rubles at 10 bucks?
    Russia has one option. Start producing everything yourself. Still reduce supplies to the West. Deliver the final product there. They can draw 10 bucks at a loss to their companies, just to crush us. Then the dollar should be 0,5 for 1 euro. There will be the wildest imbalance in state trade.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 29 July 2015 10: 27
      0
      To start producing everything on your own - it takes several trillion rubles of investments and decades of work - this is not quickly done.
      1. denis02135
        denis02135 29 July 2015 14: 50
        +1
        And what has been done over the 16 years of the reign of GDP, new production facilities, roads have been built, has the improvement of the country's hevisty climate improved? The example of China is not inspired. And you are still decades, trillions. (They are not there and are unlikely to appear unfortunately)
        1. Days
          Days 29 July 2015 17: 59
          -1
          Do you know better from behind the hill? Yes, many factories, roads have been built, the investment climate has been improved. Here is more detailed: http://sdelanounas.ru/
          1. Uncle Joe
            Uncle Joe 29 July 2015 19: 56
            -3
            Quote: Dagen
            http://sdelanounas.ru/
            LOOK: What are the plans for the replacement of imported goods by Russian http://vz.ru/infographics/2015/7/21/757291.html
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 29 July 2015 20: 03
          +3
          Over the past year, 300 factories were built.
          1. Uncle Joe
            Uncle Joe 29 July 2015 21: 43
            -1
            Quote: Vadim237
            Over the past year, 300 factories were built.
            The number of Russian companies that are declared bankrupt has been steadily increasing over the past few months, in 2014 it increased by almost 20% compared to the previous year - up to 14 thousand 514
            http://www.interfax.ru/business/424994

            The number of bankruptcies in the real sector of the economy is growing rapidly. According to an expert from the Center for Macroeconomic Analysis and Short-Range Forecasting Anastasia Mogilat, in 2014 the number of bankruptcies increased fivefold compared to what it was in 2007-2008. After the crisis of 2009 and before the crisis of 2014, annually about 800 legal entities became bankrupt.
            The majority of bankruptcies in Russia occur in manufacturing enterprises - their average share is about 60% of the total number of bankrupt legal entities in the real sector. In second place - agriculture and forestry (17%), in third - electricity (15%).
            http://www.arctic-tv.ru/news/analitika/v-2014-godu-kolichestvo-bankrotstv-vozros
            lo-pyatikratno-do-treti-vseh-bankrotstv --- v-pishevoy-otrasli


            http://www.gazeta.ru/business/infographics/promyshlennost_rossii_v_krizise.shtml
    2. THANK YOU ALL
      THANK YOU ALL 29 July 2015 10: 41
      +2
      Quote: Good AAAH
      Do not want 150 rubles at 10 bucks?

      At 10 bucks it will be 350-370 rubles. So our budget is calculated.
  26. Dan Slav
    Dan Slav 29 July 2015 10: 07
    +8
    Here it is the underside of the current pseudo economy - banks and exchanges dictate the production of a real product.
    Oil is not dollars, not pieces of paper.
    Oil is the real standard of living of people. Since almost all production today is involved in this product. From the production of milk to the production of machinery, metals, chemistry, ... Production is work and employment, it is stable salaries and taxes, it is the development of the state!
    BUT!
    Is this necessary for the modern elite? She absolutely nevermind! She used to steal and fatten, not looking back at the world and people. She has a lot of dough.
    If you still divide the world, hide behind patriotic slogans, then people can really bend to the plinth and steal without brakes, hiding behind partiatic slogans.
    And let the people not rock the boat without work, without a salary, in an enemy environment outside and surrounded by migrants inside the country.
    Instability and uncertainty are the best friends of humility!
    Well, exchanges and banks only serve these interests of the elite! IMHO!
    You need to get enough, turn production, turn the economy, raise the lives of people around, build housing, roads, educate, develop science, and so on and so forth.
    In the meantime, everything is going the other way! Everywhere!
    1. sds87
      sds87 29 July 2015 13: 14
      +3
      I sign under your every word! Only zaputintsy will run and declare you (and me) an agent of the US State Department.
      1. Days
        Days 29 July 2015 18: 11
        -1
        No, you are not agents, agents are paid. And you do the same what the State Department wants from you, only for free.
        1. Days
          Days 30 July 2015 12: 44
          -1
          Judging by the minus, you also do not like that the State Department does not pay you? laughing
  27. Freeway_3007
    Freeway_3007 29 July 2015 10: 11
    +9
    Instead of developing high-tech industries, all 16 years of their reign, the Putenk people were just getting high, cutting off super-profits from the sale of "our" subsoil ... All Putinomics is a PIPE.
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    2. U-47
      U-47 29 July 2015 10: 49
      +3
      Quote: Freeway_ 3007
      All Putinomics is a PIPE.
    3. padded jacket
      padded jacket 29 July 2015 13: 26
      -4
      Oh-oh-oh "the fifth column" pulled up.
      Shout Putin louder lol
    4. padded jacket
      padded jacket 29 July 2015 13: 47
      -5
      Quote: Freeway_ 3007
      Instead of developing high-tech industries, all 16 years of their reign, the Putenko people only got high, cutting off super profits from the sale of "our" mineral resources.

      Apparently you just did not see what was happening in the 90s when the Gaidars and Abramovich plundered the country, so say so.
      1. Freeway_3007
        Freeway_3007 29 July 2015 14: 00
        +2
        Over the entire period of Putin’s reign, the Russian Federation received 3,5 trillion petrodollars ... where is the loot? Where is the economy?
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        2. U-47
          U-47 29 July 2015 14: 14
          +2
          Quote: Freeway_ 3007
          For the entire period of Putin’s reign, the Russian Federation received 3,5 trillion petrodollars ... where is the loot?

          in the stabilization fund)
        3. padded jacket
          padded jacket 29 July 2015 14: 22
          -5
          Quote: Freeway_ 3007
          Over the entire period of Putin’s reign, the Russian Federation received 3,5 trillion petrodollars ... where is the loot? Where is the economy?

          No need to misinterpret and money for defense that does not go away?
          What about education?
          Healthcare?
          Science, space?
          Infrastructure and so on.
          You say so as if they were putting all the money in a bag and not giving it to anyone.
    5. EGOrkka
      EGOrkka 29 July 2015 17: 17
      0
      Well, yes, but the right maydaun Yaytsenyuh country in full g o v n o lowered !!! in one year !!!!!
      1. atalef
        atalef 29 July 2015 18: 25
        -1
        Quote: EGOrkka
        Well, yes, but the right maydaun Yaytsenyuh country in full g o v n o lowered !!! in one year !!!!!

        and in new Guinea, the Papuans are eating people.
  28. silver_roman
    silver_roman 29 July 2015 10: 19
    +2
    touched:
    Recall that the reason for the fall in world oil prices in 1986 was the most common overproduction of "black gold".

    The reason for the fall in oil prices was the destruction of the USSR. And hydrocarbon prices are one of the mechanisms.

    By the way, the article is so disgusting: I have gathered opinions and comments about all dishonesty: here you have both Siluanov and Ulyukaev (I would personally have both of them quartered), and the morgue moaned, and Bloomberg, and where without RBC ... only there is not enough chubais. all to gather in one place and gas poison am

    that and Iran is not clear: it’s kind of like playing dark with them for one thing. The Iranians must clearly understand that any of their movements affects our economy, which is extremely sad.

    That and the incentive for us to get off the oil needle. Russians are terrible because of their unpredictability!
    1. Alibekulu
      Alibekulu 29 July 2015 12: 07
      +1
      Quote: silver_roman
      That and the incentive for us to get off the oil needle. Russians are terrible because of their unpredictability!
      Yeah wink And therefore ..
  29. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 29 July 2015 10: 23
    +2
    It could even be $ 10. They will tighten up the United States before their demise and draw 10 bucks on the commodity exchange. For them, the main thing is to avoid shocks, with appropriate propaganda support, with talk of falling demand and increasing supply. Such a performance is expected.
    We’ll survive, we will correct the economy and squeeze the thieves.
  30. Bagnyuk
    Bagnyuk 29 July 2015 10: 50
    +3
    Well then, we’ll have an edge here in a protein !!! because we live only at the expense of Russia ... and maybe it's good that I live in the village ...
  31. baron.nn
    baron.nn 29 July 2015 11: 18
    +1
    The article is full of references to American research ... And in Russia, is anyone engaged in forecasting? I don’t mean Siluanov ... He only makes forecasts with reference to oil prices ... Siluanov at the time was called not the Minister of Economic Development, but the Minister of Predictions ... It would be better to take up economic development instead of prediction !!!
  32. orthodox71
    orthodox71 29 July 2015 11: 32
    0
    recession can last for three or more years and turn out to be “much worse

    Yes, mankind will spoil the atmosphere so much over the years, on cheap hydrocarbons, that the apocalypse is just around the corner
  33. Alexei.N
    Alexei.N 29 July 2015 11: 33
    +4
    It’s only a shame that our government for 15 years has not been able to really do anything in order to remove Russia from the oil needle !!!
    1. Ajent cho
      Ajent cho 29 July 2015 14: 49
      -3
      It’s only a shame that our government for 15 years has not been able to really do anything in order to remove Russia from the oil needle !!!
      Another government expert.
  34. Hens
    Hens 29 July 2015 11: 35
    +2
    And what will we eat? We can’t live without food.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 29 July 2015 12: 23
      +1
      We will grow vegetables and fruits in the gardens.
    2. orthodox71
      orthodox71 29 July 2015 13: 07
      0
      Oil, that’s what we’ll give birth to, and we’ll eat it in different forms, because it’s cheap
      1. U-47
        U-47 29 July 2015 13: 33
        0
        Quote: orthodox71
        Oil, that’s what we’ll give birth to, and we’ll eat it in different forms, because it’s cheap
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      3. Vadim237
        Vadim237 29 July 2015 20: 06
        0
        Well, eat oil who's stopping you.
  35. Governor
    Governor 29 July 2015 12: 51
    +5
    On the ZIL peninsula there will be a new residential area with schools, offices, shopping centers, stadiums ... Attention question: which of the following is production?
    NOTHING!
    But what for is this ZIL needed? After all, there are European trucks, Chinese. It is strange that they were underestimating the cleaning of the island just now.
    The Russian economy is struggling with dying convulsions ... Guess whose merit?
    1. U-47
      U-47 29 July 2015 13: 56
      -1
      [quote = Voivode] On the ZIL peninsula there will be a new residential area with schools, offices, shopping centers, stadiums ... Attention question: which of the following is production? NOTHING! quote]
      So what? Why the hell in a metropolis production clusters of this magnitude? You ZIL offer to reanimate? There are no such fools. Developers rule the ball in Moscow.
      [quote = Governor] But what for is this ZIL needed? [/ quote]
      not needed. Who will invest in a fundamentally unprofitable production with localization ... in Moscow !!! laughing
      1. rosarioagro
        rosarioagro 29 July 2015 15: 46
        +1
        Quote: U-47
        Who will invest in a fundamentally unprofitable production with localization ... in Moscow !!!

        The state, to ensure domestic needs, at least in the USSR
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        2. U-47
          U-47 29 July 2015 20: 59
          0
          Quote: rosarioagro
          The state, to ensure domestic needs, at least in the USSR

          Factory ... automobile ... in Moscow ...
          are going to produce competitive on it ... uh ... how would it be softer ...production?

          P-C ... I ran out of arguments ...
          By the way - the USSR is already .... However ...
  36. Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf 29 July 2015 12: 54
    +2
    "Our dear and beloved government" has nothing to fear. Our prices are always going up. At current oil prices, gasoline we have on average 35-36 rubles / liter. There will be 10 green oil, gasoline will be 100-150 rubles / liter. Economy we have "liberal", even the liberals do not have such a dollar. The dollar rises or falls, prices rise. Oil or gas-rise or fall in price, our prices for everything grow, in housing and communal services they do nothing for years, prices rise again (well, the electorate does not understand that this is correct and we are going the right way), the government has been fooling around for what year, but it always raises prices (earlier at the request of the workers, now at the request of the oligarchs). Everything will be fine with us. bast shoes, air, handling small and large physiological needs, for sight, Lord, yes, here such opportunities open up, rule three more lives.
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    2. U-47
      U-47 29 July 2015 14: 16
      0
      Quote: Tambov Wolf
      . At current oil prices, we have an average of 35-36 rubles / liter. There will be 10 green oil, gasoline will be 100-150 rubles / liter.

      ABOUT! Can I live to see when the Pskov people go to Estonia to refuel, and the Petersburgers to Finland?
      1. EGOrkka
        EGOrkka 29 July 2015 17: 21
        -4
        In PSG go there, gasoline has grown almost twice, get hold of ......
  37. Olkass
    Olkass 29 July 2015 12: 55
    0
    Quote: Stroporez
    Quote: THANK YOU ALL
    In addition to the revolution, are there any other options?

    There are no other options!
    The whole question is where does it come from "from below" or "from above"
    "the lower classes cannot" .... "the upper classes do not want" ...
    Quote: THANK YOU ALL
    That in 1917, under the slogan, peace came to the people, factories for workers, the land came to the peasants, and until Stalin strangled Lenin's like-minded people in the camps, and to whom and the ice ax there was no order

    stop practicing idle talk.
    Stalin was and remains a Marxist-Leninist, and, moreover, an active inspirer and participant in the preparation and conduct of the October Revolution!
    everything else about the division of the Bolsheviks into Leninists and Stalinists is bourgeois-Goebbels nonsense.
    Are you apparently familiar with the works of Dr. Goebbels? wink refresh your memory at your leisure, everything is in the public domain yes hi

    Sprinkle manenko, the same puff.
    Only one question about the listed personalities: hu-huh?
    What the fuck, the bottom? They covered all the power and their dismantling.
    Top? Oh well! For some reason, everyone forgets that they have two mosles and a cup of blood, in short - biomass. The rest is cockroaches in the head and ordinary human dullness. Having a dough does not mean having a mind! What life demonstrates daily.
    I have two children and a granddaughter. The very first REVOLUTIONARY, caught on the road, I will smother myself.
    Medne?
    1. Days
      Days 29 July 2015 18: 07
      -1
      Oh my God, is there really someone else here who is against revolutions and would not like another blood in Russia sad At such a pace, VO will soon turn into a liberal party sad
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  39. Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf 29 July 2015 12: 56
    0
    Interestingly, damn it, the word "sekc" appears on the portal "not permissible." Yes, hypocrisy has reached nowhere else
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    2. U-47
      U-47 29 July 2015 14: 55
      0
      Quote: Tambov Wolf
      Interestingly, damn it, the word "sekc" appears on the portal "not permissible." Yes, hypocrisy has reached nowhere else

      laughing even this word rules:
    3. Ajent cho
      Ajent cho 29 July 2015 16: 21
      0
      Interestingly, damn it, the word "sekc" appears on the portal "not permissible"
      Gosha! I tried and my comment automatically left ... Here they are for it: CEKS, SECC, SECUALLY, SECCTANT, SECCTA (oh, that is, I wanted to say SECT).
  40. Dima Čalevo
    Dima Čalevo 29 July 2015 13: 10
    +2
    So, I got it. Or Russia will come out of the crisis and become stronger than ever, or we will soon end: D
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 29 July 2015 20: 07
      0
      The crisis will go on until 2050.
  41. Ajent cho
    Ajent cho 29 July 2015 14: 43
    0
    Morgan Stanley Research experts ... In the Western media ... Tom Randall ... at the Gaidar Forum
    And so on.
    Why are you all twitching? Well, yes, let's run to buy salt and matches from stores. Found someone to listen to ...
  42. Valga
    Valga 29 July 2015 19: 33
    +2
    All repeats. Again we need Stalin. There are only a few patriots in power. Mostly thieves, people with ambitions and other mezirabels. Plotting them all in the felling. In difficult situations, if you give up the slack again collapse, revolution, civil war. A person in power is essentially a rotten, soulless, selfish creature. From time to time they need to "bleed", to rotate the elite, otherwise - God bless Russia.
    1. Uncle Joe
      Uncle Joe 29 July 2015 21: 08
      -2
      Quote: Valga
      All repeats. Again we need Stalin

      And right there -

      In difficult situations, if we let the slack fail again, the revolution

      Do you agree with yourself somehow ...

      "Down with capitalism!
      Long live socialism!
      Raise the banner of the Russian revolution and write on it:
      Down with the Tsarist monarchy!
      Long live the democratic republic!
      Comrades! Today we celebrate the first of May! Long live the first of May!
      Long live the International Social Democracy!
      Long live the Russian Social-Democratic Labor Party! "

      I. Stalin T.2 s.224
  43. TOR2
    TOR2 29 July 2015 20: 33
    +2
    Morgan Stanley Research Experts Predict Future Fall in World Oil Prices

    Morgan experts can blink as much as they like. If we hear something good from them, then this should alert. lol
    As for Gazprom and the oil industry, it is high time to pay attention to our own consumers. Build housing and gasify the villages that still remain. There will be people - there will be agricultural production.
    At 10 bucks a barrel, it will be difficult for iPhone players to put on a good face with a bad game. Perhaps at least some progress will be on Olympus.
    1. atalef
      atalef 29 July 2015 20: 44
      -1
      Quote: TOR2
      Morgan experts can blink as much as they like. If we hear something good from them, then this should alert.

      Well, in the near future it’s unlikely, so the standard of living (in Russia) will only grow
      Quote: TOR2
      it concerns Gazprom and the oil industry, then it’s high time to pay attention to our own consumers

      They turn it around - with gas prices
      Quote: TOR2
      Build housing and gasify villages that still remain

      it’s the Morgans who probably praise the villages, it’s worth being wary, probably there’s nothing alright

      Quote: TOR2
      There will be people - there will be agricultural production.

      Is not a fact laughing
      Quote: TOR2
      At a price of 10 bucks a barrel, it will be difficult for "iPhone players" to make a good face with a bad game

      This is exactly laughing and at five they will surely die, the GDP said
      Russian President Vladimir Putin predicted the collapse of the global economy while maintaining oil prices at $ 80 per barrel. He made such a statement during a press conference in Milan following the results of the ACEM summit.

      At the same time, Putin recalled that the Russian budget was made up at the rate of $ 96 per barrel, but he did not see any “tragedy” in this.

      “I think that the price will equalize, adjust - especially since keeping it at a fairly low bar - $ 80 or a little higher - none of the serious market participants are interested," Putin said.

      According to the president, it is unprofitable to keep prices at $ 80 per barrel. “If we take the oil that is produced in the United States, then its profitability is $ 80. If world prices are held at $ 80, then all production will collapse, ”Putin said.

      Read more at RBC:
      http://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/544149dfcbb20f125aa769f4

      Not to smiles
      1. TOR2
        TOR2 29 July 2015 21: 19
        +3
        You do not know better from there ...
  44. fa2998
    fa2998 29 July 2015 20: 45
    +1
    Quote: anip
    There is no economy in Russia, except for raw materials, but the putriots, despite the objective factors, will still shout "glory".

    And by the way, Russia is not among the leaders in terms of oil reserves (as much as 8th), but exports are among the leaders. Maybe we will leave some oil to our children and grandchildren. It's good to sell when oil is in price. Part of the profit to the producer, part to the budget. we sell at ANY PRICE - money is enough to recoup production, and the profit of the oligarchs. The budget gets a penny. OIL IS OUR WEALTH, then why waste at 10,20,30,40,50. Let's set a lower price limit, and if this limit is passed -export is prohibited. Let the domestic market be flooded with gasoline. We are equal to the CA, Iran, Iraq, Qatar, Venezuela. They have oil to hell, and on land, it is shallow. And our fields are retreating to the Arctic, the cost is high, so we must sell at normal the price, and not for pennies. But I think they will not do this in our country, the oil stocks are in "reliable" hands, they have their own. The budget and future generations are on their side. yes hi
  45. Russian
    Russian 29 July 2015 20: 55
    +5
    I probably do not understand anything in life in the sixth ten. Maybe explain to me. Now Westerners are equating Putin with Hitler. But can they be equated? They took about the same in the country's economy. Only after SIX years did Germany economically rise to the point of starting the World War, having nothing on its territory but brown coal, and even plagued its fagots. And Russia, after FIFTEEN years, fell into such a way that WE won’t even see the light at the end of the tunnel. Having from the Almighty in his land and on it ALL the conceivable and unthinkable earthly PEOPLE'S riches. Well, and who is really the PATRIOT of their country, and who is the corrupt P ... obol ???
    1. GraveBezKresta
      GraveBezKresta 29 July 2015 22: 36
      +2
      Yes, with this, everything is clear, already. It is not clear what is happening to us as a nation. Again with rapture we cut each other as in a civil war. The head does not fit. The grandchildren of the victors of the Great Victory are cherishing each other. Because of this fucking propaganda. And the lack of brains. To the delight of all our enemies. They took the Crimea, and the Far East and Siberia surrendered to the Chinese - brilliant! For 15 years, Putin has tweeted that America, our strategic partner, kept and transferred all the money there. Now he explains to us that this is our strategic enemy. So why the hell are all these Chubais, Medvedevs, Grefs, Kudrins who work for America alive, healthy, with loot and power ?!
      P ....... and provocation. They create an image of war, but in fact do not change anything. Only Slavic blood is poured. Although normal is all clear, the question is how many normal we have left. Dallas plan in action. Pancake.
      1. Uncle Joe
        Uncle Joe 30 July 2015 03: 06
        +2
        Quote: Grave without Cross
        For 15 years, Putin has tweeted that America, our strategic partner, kept and transferred all the money there. Now he explains to us that this is our strategic enemy. So why the hell are all these Chubais, Medvedevs, Grefs, Kudrins who work for America alive, healthy, with loot and power ?!
        People have always been and always will be stupid victims of deception and self-deception in politics, until they learn for any moral, religious, political, social phrases, statements, promises to seek out the interests of particular classes. Proponents of reform and improvement will always be fooled by the defenders of the old, until they understand that every old institution, no matter how wild and rotten it may seem, is held by the forces of one or another ruling class.
        V. Lenin T.23 p .47
  46. Megatron
    Megatron 30 July 2015 02: 29
    -1
    Yeah, only when oil was at 120ue per barrel, this justified the high prices of gasoline and solarium, right now at 60ue, and prices only rose!
  47. Astor
    Astor 30 July 2015 07: 59
    0
    Quote: Stroporez
    Quote: ATATA
    Worldwide, gasoline is made from oil; in Russia gasoline is made from dollars.

    No, comrade, economic wise men in the power say that they make gas from excise taxes!
    This know-how has no analogues in the world.

    There are analogs! Fuel prices in Bulgaria in BGN (divided by 2 it will turn out €) as follows: A95 gasoline - at refineria 1.017, excise tax 0.71, VAT (VAT) 20% - 0.345 (they also charge the excise tax). As a result, the price per liter is 2.072 levs and you need to add 10% profit to the gas station. The price of refineries is formed as the price of oil + cryptocurrencies + profit. The only variable is the price of oil, so if the price of oil decreases by 50%, then the price of gasoline at the gas station will decrease by 5% (approximately, I did not calculate). Probably something similar in Russia.