Golden ruble: crafty idea

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The “golden currency” has a good reputation in society. Noble metal hypnotically affects the minds. Meanwhile story teaches us not to trust the "yellow devil", including the history of Russia.

Today, many nostalgically remember the golden ruble of Sergei Witte, who was born in 1897, others were captivated by the gold chervonets of the people's commissar Grigory Sokolnikov of the middle of 1920's ... It sounds loud - the golden ruble. Although just the experience of using the “golden currency” in our country shows that the games with the golden calf end very badly and even tragically.

Golden ruble: crafty idea

Grigory Sokolnikov

Unfortunately, in our historical literature it is extremely rare to find a serious analysis of the consequences of the introduction of the gold ruble by the then Minister of Finance S. Yu. Witte. Let me remind you that in the second half of the XIX century, the Russian ruble with might and main walked around the European stock exchanges and was a favorite "toy" for currency speculators in Berlin, Paris and other European financial capitals. Even the predecessors of Witte, finance ministers Nikolay Bunge and Ivan Vyshnegradsky proposed to strengthen the ruble, making it gold. But this required a solid gold reserve, which Russia did not have. Although Russia was a gold-mining country, however, to create the necessary reserves, it was necessary to dig and wash the precious metal for several decades. Another source of replenishment of gold reserves could be the export of grain. Vyshnegradsky threw a cry: "We will not finish, but we will take out." The slogan of the influential minister began to practically implement. Russia for the sake of a “bright golden future” began to malnourish, and sometimes even starve. However, this was clearly not enough to make the ruble a stable currency. The third and most important source of replenishment of the gold treasury of the Russian Empire became gold loans. And who could provide gold on a returnable and paid basis? All the same Rothschilds who, after the Napoleonic Wars, concentrated in their hands large stocks of "yellow metal". And in order for this metal to "work", that is, to bring interest, it was necessary to implant gold standards in the world. The first gold standard was adopted by the United Kingdom (1821 year). After Bismarck introduced the gold mark in the Second Reich in 1873, the process of introducing gold standards began an avalanche. By the way, it was from 1873 that the Great Depression began in Europe, which lasted 23. The link between the introduction of gold currencies and the economic downturn was evident.


Ivan Alekseevich Vyshnegradsky

Russia was forced into the “golden club” at the end of the 19th century. For our country, the gold standard was a particularly heavy burden, since the gold ruble was approaching 100% (higher than in other European countries). Russia was constantly suffocating from the lack of money; there was a “golden noose” on its neck. In order to weaken it at least a little, there was a policy of attracting foreign capital (in fact, attracting gold currencies to the country). Industry and the banking sector were under the control of foreigners. In terms of the production of many types of industrial and agricultural products, Russia before the First World War occupied 4 – 5 ranks. But the largest foreign debt came to the undisputed first place in the world. The gold ruble was considered a very “hard” currency, although the paradox was that it was secured by debts, but not gold. Because even gold in the vaults of the State Bank was borrowed. The country rapidly lost its sovereignty, turned into a colony of the West. That was the price of Sergei Witte’s gold ruble! The minister acted imprudently, at least not in a state way.

And all over the world, the gold standard was short-lived. At the beginning of World War I, European countries were forced to suspend the gold standard (the exchange of paper money for metal was stopped). After the war, it was restored only in some countries (Great Britain and France), and in a truncated form (the so-called gold bullion standard). Currencies of different countries retained their connection with gold indirectly - through exchange for the US dollar, the British pound, the French franc. By the middle of the 1930-ies in the conditions of the economic crisis, the gold standard was completely dismantled.

The latest version of the gold standard is the gold dollar standard, which was set seventy years ago at the Bretton Woods conference. The connection of the world of money with gold was ensured through the exchange of the US dollar for the "yellow metal", whose reserves in America after the war reached 70% of world reserves (without the USSR). But in less than three decades, the gold-dollar standard ceased to exist, the connection between the world of money and gold was interrupted. It has become an ordinary commodity.

Both domestic and international experience shows that gold is an extremely unimportant means of maintaining the stability of money circulation. With the light hand of D. Ricardo, K. Marx, and other engaged nineteenth-century economists, the myth emerged that the “yellow metal” is the most ideal equivalent of value. In addition, the growth of gold reserves is always lagging behind the growth of the economy (or at least the growth opportunities). Therefore, gold as money quickly begins to act as a brake on economic development. The gold standard is needed only for those who have a lot of "yellow metal" and who are willing to lend it. The owners of gold get richer, the rest of the world is in decline.

I recall that in the middle of the 1920-ies in the USSR also hovered ideas to make our gold coin. As a result, he became gold only nominally. That is, it was provided with gold (as well as other valuables), but the metal sign of the chervonets was not exchanged for metal. The then people's Commissar of Finance, Grigory Sokolnikov, said that the Soviet gold chervonets would circulate on all the currency exchanges of the world. Some people even flatteringly called this Commissar “the second Witte”. In those days, in the Party and the government, there was a sharp struggle around the problem of the convertibility of paper chervonets into gold. The exchange of gold pieces did not come. Began to form a monetary system of a fundamentally different type. Inside the country, paper banknotes — banknotes and treasury notes — were circulated. Paper money was supplemented with non-cash money, which served the production sphere. The state currency monopoly acted in the sphere of external settlements, and the ruble was not used for external operations. Thanks to the monetary system that developed in the USSR at the beginning of the 1930s, we were able to industrialize. Before the start of World War II, almost 10 thousands of enterprises were built. By the way, in the 1930, the West has not canceled economic sanctions against the USSR. Under the conditions of such sanctions, the USSR used for the purchase of machinery and equipment the sale of gold on the world market. At the same time, the country increased its gold reserves as a strategic resource in the light of the looming threat of war. According to some sources, this stock on the eve of the war exceeded 2 by thousands of tons.

One thing is the accumulation and use of the precious metal as a strategic resource, another thing is the introduction of the “golden currency”, linking the national monetary unit to the “yellow metal” reserve. If the first is justified and necessary to ensure the economic independence of the country, then the second may lead the country to financial enslavement and disaster. Becoming addicted to gold is dangerous. This is evidenced by both global and domestic experience.

It is dangerous when gold becomes not a means, but an end, a kind of universal, a deity, to whose pedestal we have to make sacrifices.
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  1. +1
    31 July 2015 18: 44
    Already stepped on this rake.
    1. +18
      31 July 2015 18: 54
      Before the start of World War II, almost 10 thousand enterprises were built.

      This is the main "gold"! We still use this foundation ... And scientists, designers, engineers were created at that time (I always wonder how this could be, the country was isolated only from the civil war and total devastation ..))) Phenomenon! of course, but not to get too carried away with it .. There will be something else ..! I sense genes ..
      1. +2
        31 July 2015 20: 49
        the question of gold is the cornerstone of human existence.
        to understand the essence, you need to remember the myths and take them seriously. and ask yourself, where is all the gold mined over the millennia? and indeed: why does man need gold? The answer is obvious. scary conclusions. but why? because we like to believe, but we are afraid to know ...
        planet of the apes ...
      2. +1
        31 July 2015 20: 54

        Today, many nostalgically recall the gold ruble of Sergey Witte,

        Witte carried out one of the greatest machinations in the 19th century, and perhaps of all time. Credits were taken from French bankers, mainly from the French branch of the Rothschild’s house, for the construction of the railway, mainly the Trans-Siberian Railway, we will not talk about theft at a construction site, this is the national fun of contractors and bureaucrats to warm their hands on the treasury. And then he convinced Nicholas I to introduce the gold standard and ... now Russia already owes gold to the bankers. According to some reports, more than 400 tons of gold. Yes, and decided to earn a gold coin on the monopoly of alcohol by soldering people.
        1. +7
          31 July 2015 22: 38
          Only this article reflects the realities of the distant historical past, and not the realities of today. But today it looks like this: Russia is selling energy to the West for paper resources of the West (dollars), buying gold for this paper in the West, and the more they print their money, the more gold will leave the world market. The emphasis on the phrase “physical gold” is made because in exchange for its physical, rather than paper, energy resources, Russia now withdraws gold from the West, but only in the form of its physical, rather than paper, supply. China is doing the same, taking real physical gold from the West, at current artificially lowered prices at times, as a means of payment for physical supplies to the West of its real goods. For reference: the turnover in the paper gold market, only in the form of gold futures, is estimated at approximately 360 billion US dollars per month. But only at $ 280 million per month physical delivery of gold is carried out. What forms paper gold versus physical gold at the auction, the ratio is 1000 to 1. Applying the mechanism of active withdrawal from the market of one financial asset artificially lowered by the West (gold), in exchange for another financial artificially inflated West (US dollars), Russia and China meanwhile the most included countdown for world petrodollar hegemony. The West can spend as much of its strength and resources as possible on artificially increasing the purchasing power of the dollar, lowering oil prices and artificially lowering the purchasing power of gold. The problem of the West is only that the reserves of physical gold at the disposal of the West are not unlimited. Therefore, the more the West depreciates oil and gold against the US dollar, the more rapidly it loses its cheaper Gold from its far from endless reserves. But if they (the Russian Federation and China) put into circulation not their national gold currencies, but international gold money. On which no currency denomination designated by decree will be minted at all! For example, without a digital indication of the cost of 20, 50, or one hundred, and equivalent to the cost of gold in the world market, then Western bankers will not have speculative intentions. The piquancy of such a non-standard solution lies in the fact that it is impossible in principle to attack a gold national currency that does not have any currency denomination. Moreover, any attack directed against a currency that represents only the market value of gold itself by its weight is an attack against itself, and against the entire financial system of the attacker himself. Because such an attack, in its essence, is not at all an attack aimed at the national currency of the issuing country. Such an attack is an attack on the market itself, in part of gold itself, as the main and only truly international monetary asset of mankind.
          1. 0
            31 July 2015 23: 24
            Quote: renics
            And today it looks like this: Russia is selling energy to the West for paper resources of the West (dollars), buying gold for this paper in the West, and the more they print their money, the more gold will leave the world market

            Why
            Quote: renics
            China is doing the same, taking real physical gold from the West, at current artificially lowered prices at times.

            And what is (in your opinion) real value?
            Quote: renics
            For reference: the turnover in the paper gold market, only in the form of gold futures, is estimated at approximately 360 billion US dollars per month. But only at $ 280 million a month physical delivery of gold

            Of course, only by mixing futures and physical delivery did you mix soft with sour
            There is no connection. In general, understand what futures
            Quote: renics
            The West can spend as much of its strength and resources as possible on artificially increasing the purchasing power of the dollar, lowering oil prices and artificially lowering the purchasing power of gold. The problem of the West is only that the reserves of physical gold at the disposal of the West are not unlimited

            Well, you stayed with gold, buying everything up to the last gram. Then you have a sea of ​​gold, but they want to sell everything for dollars, what will we do?
            Quote: renics
            But if they (Russia and China) put into circulation not their national gold currencies, but international gold money

            And what kind of beast is this? I'm not saying why China will be led to this nonsense, I ask - and whose Central Bank will this international money have?
            Quote: renics
            . On which no currency denomination designated by decree will be minted at all!

            And it will just be written -Money laughing
            Quote: renics
            and 20, 50, or one hundred, and equated to the value of gold

            And who will install it - well, this cost?
            Quote: renics
            The piquancy of such a non-standard solution lies in the fact that, in principle, it is impossible to attack a gold national currency that does not have any currency denomination

            Really - who needs a currency without a face value
          2. 0
            31 July 2015 23: 25
            Quote: renics
            Moreover, any attack directed against a currency that represents only the market value of gold itself by its weight is an attack against itself

            Why? You have all the gold, you yourself are talking about the MARKET VALUE, tomorrow I will drop this value every 10 times. it’s to me that it’s your gold, although what kind of market is it at all, all currencies have died - money (without a face value) is only with you
            Quote: renics
            Because such an attack, in its essence, is not at all an attack aimed at the national currency of the issuing country

            i.e. the issuer is Russia China laughing
            Quote: renics
            Such an attack is an attack on the market itself, in part of gold itself, as the main and only truly international monetary asset of mankind

            especially for you
            1. 0
              1 August 2015 12: 37
              Enough of trolling, if you yourself don’t understand anything, then read the Major General to others, this title was given to you for your crap in the comments. But seriously, you need to read what is written carefully and not overshadow the meaning in your own way. Entire article in 3 parts. GROSSMASTER PUTIN'S WESTERN VALVE. http://investcafe.ru/blogs/mbcy/posts/46245 Dmitry Kalinichenko. Do not confuse freedom with self-will.
    2. 0
      31 July 2015 21: 45
      Well, I think this article (not many of the adequate ones on gold security of currencies) will sober up some heads and especially dreams
      capacitor positive (+) lead
      1. 0
        1 August 2015 12: 40
        Nobody forbids to think. however, your thoughts are meaningful only to you and not to anyone else.
  2. +4
    31 July 2015 19: 08
    this stock on the eve of the war exceeded 2 thousand tons.

    2400 or so, which helped at the beginning of the Second World War, for paying Lend-Lease
    1. +5
      31 July 2015 20: 00
      Quote: sanja.grw
      this stock on the eve of the war exceeded 2 thousand tons.

      2400 or so, which helped at the beginning of the Second World War, for paying Lend-Lease

      Yes, it helped a lot ... But it was at that time! Now everything is a little different, although the United States again wants to "Lend-Lease", but first play us off with someone! But Russia understands everything, if it is to fight with the United States!
  3. 0
    31 July 2015 19: 17
    gold ruble? what for? it is enough to throw off the dollar and trade all countries in their national currencies.
    1. -1
      31 July 2015 21: 46
      Quote: AdekvatNICK
      gold ruble? what for? it is enough to throw off the dollar and trade all countries in their national currencies.

      And America will trade in what currency?
      1. 0
        1 August 2015 05: 05
        And America will trade in what currency?

        Yes, even in the tug, no difference. laughing
      2. 0
        1 August 2015 12: 43
        Maybe it’s worthwhile to address this issue to the US Department of State and to their website than here.
  4. +9
    31 July 2015 19: 28
    You read what is written under the numbers.
    A bank ticket is provided with precious metals and other assets of the state bank.
    So the Soviet ruble, to some extent, was gold.
    1. 0
      31 July 2015 19: 35
      Quote: Alexey M
      So the Soviet ruble, to some extent, was gold.

      This inscription was only on banknotes with denominations of 10 rubles and above, on banknotes with denominations of lower, it was not ...
      And yet, the "chervontsy" and above were - "Tickets of the State Bank
      the USSR
      And what is below - "State Treasury Notes". Honestly, I don't know what the difference is, but it was ...
      1. +4
        31 July 2015 20: 43
        svp67
        This inscription was only on banknotes with denominations of 10 rubles and above, on banknotes with denominations of lower, it was not ...

        Well here you are wrong

        Beginning with the ruble, there was an inscription "Bank notes are backed by gold. Precious metals and other assets of the state Bank"

        And on the three and five:
        STATE TREASURY TICKETS ARE PROVIDED ALL GOOD UNION OF THE SSR ...
        1. +2
          31 July 2015 20: 53
          Quote: anfil
          Well here you are wrong

          Well, well, it was a long time ago, I forgot ...
          Although STOP. I then talked about banknotes of 1961,
          and you provided a sample of 1991
          1. 0
            31 July 2015 22: 51
            That's right, it was only later, closer to the collapse of the USSR, that they began to cheat and such inscriptions were already written on all issued banknotes, not 61 years old, but as on bank notes.
      2. +1
        31 July 2015 21: 50
        Quote: svp67
        This inscription was only on banknotes with denominations of 10 rubles and above, on banknotes with denominations of lower, it was not ...
        And yet, the "chervontsy" and above were - "Tickets of the State Bank

        The point is, maybe there is one of the many visitors to VO who himself changed his relatives changed, or at least heard that someone changed - for these same assets? laughing
        1. +1
          31 July 2015 23: 20
          Quote: atalef
          The point is, maybe there is one of the many visitors to VO who himself changed his relatives changed, or at least heard that someone changed - for these same assets?

          Sasha, did you have it? Although, there was a joke that academician Sakharov supposedly changed in Gorky what I don’t know, however, no, the guys in the car workshop studied there, they told me, anti-advisers, EPT laughing Yes, both two, then two years in Sino-Soviet, border guards honors, sergeant and senior sergeant. The elder has one detention during the transition from our side what I took it from the PCB, dare you?
        2. +1
          1 August 2015 12: 48
          General criticism .General major atalef. But what is the meaning of exchanges for these assets? In this case, do not tell me what could be done with them. Really for independent foreign foreign trade relations or for sale on the black market.
    2. +6
      31 July 2015 19: 56
      I was sad. I remembered the Soviet quarter, 50-ruble note, looked at the 500-ruble Russian, it became boring.
      1. +4
        31 July 2015 20: 24
        Quote: NordUral
        I was sad. I remembered the Soviet quarter, 50-ruble note, looked at the 500-ruble Russian, it became boring.

        I join your nostalgia ... Eh ..! The first salary in childhood was given to me exactly 50 rubles ... I gave my parents and went to Adler for a vacation! (Not on my course, but I paid for the plane ..))) Yes, there were times ..
        1. +3
          31 July 2015 21: 06
          Here he is my first earnings ... He worked on the railway! He was still a boy ... (poor craftsmen who were responsible for us ... They didn’t let the train downhill and they didn’t set fire to the station ... They played partisans ..))) ))) wassat
        2. +3
          31 July 2015 21: 08
          Quote: MIKHAN
          I join your nostalgia ... Eh ..! The first salary in childhood I was given exactly 50 rubles ...

          Oh, the first salary was given to me in quarters, as much as 120 rubles .... I brought it to my mother (I didn’t have a father, we lived more than modestly) it was joy .... With friends at 80 p. (threw themselves off on 20-ke) bought port (then it was good - real) a week we walked all the sea club ....
          1. 0
            31 July 2015 21: 54
            Quote: ziqzaq
            Oh, the first salary was given to me in quarters, as much as 120 rubles

            How ? 120 to 25 is not divided
            Quote: ziqzaq
            With friends at 80 p. (threw off a 20-ke) bought port

            Of course I don’t know (but to chip in 20-ke (two pieces of gold) - yes to port?
            80r (monthly salary of a cleaning lady and not only) - yes, you would have drunk four of them there
            A penny port cost 2.20, a good -2.80.
            As I understand it, the time has come for oh ... stories
            1. +1
              31 July 2015 22: 20
              Quote: atalef
              80r (a monthly salary of a cleaning lady and not only) - yes, you would have four of them there would have drunk Port wine a penny cost 2.20, a good -2.80.
              Here I completely agree with you, and vodka at 3.62 and a salary of 90 rubles, but this is 70-80 years ((((
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            3. 0
              31 July 2015 23: 46
              Quote: atalef
              Of course I don’t know (but to chip in 20-ke (two pieces of gold) - yes to port?
              80r (monthly salary of a cleaning lady and not only) - yes, you would have drunk four of them there

              Sanya, you're right, the mariman is bending, even if you take the cheapest one, twenty for a week is not enough, a maximum of two days, checked laughing
            4. 0
              1 August 2015 10: 19
              Quote: atalef
              Of course I don’t know (but to chip in 20-ke (two pieces of gold) - yes to port?
              80r (monthly salary of a cleaning lady and not only) - yes, you would have drunk four of them there
              A penny port cost 2.20, a good -2.80.
              As I understand it, the time has come for oh ... stories

              I make it clear:
              Near our marine (water-motor) club there was a yacht club (DYUSSH) Well, you must admit that four choking on a port is a shit, so we walked all the way ...
              PS
              "We'll drink everything, but we won't disgrace the fleet ..."
              1. 0
                1 August 2015 21: 24
                "We'll drink everything, but we won't disgrace the fleet ..."
                We’ll drink a battleship, but we won’t disgrace the fleet ... drinks
            5. 0
              1 August 2015 12: 50
              Yes, you four would have drunk there. Or maybe they’ve drunk, what’s up to you before?
        3. +1
          31 July 2015 23: 41
          Quote: MIKHAN
          I join your nostalgia ... Eh ..! The first salary in childhood was given to me exactly 50 rubles ... I gave my parents and went to Adler for a vacation! (Not on my course, but I paid for the plane ..))) Yes, there were times ..

          laughing After defending the diploma, from Arkhangelsk, to Tu-134, to Adler, then to Lazarevskoye, the boys did not meet, grandmother, Vishnevka, ten-ruble for a day, barbecue, a cafe nearby, Makopse boarding house (Patrice Lumumba University of Peoples' Friendship, cho ), then, blin, and black, and yellow, and a speck on his forehead. Crazy money squandered, for two weeks, as much as two hundred rubles laughing impressions, a full paragraph, no, there was no AIDS, well, did not hear about him around the edge what And with the guys in Lazarevsky, a week later crossed paths, but they did not change the location laughing
    3. -1
      31 July 2015 21: 48
      Quote: Alexey M
      You read what is written under the numbers.
      A bank ticket is provided with precious metals and other assets of the state bank.
      So the Soviet ruble, to some extent, was gold.

      As the late General Swan said
      - On the fence the same thing is written, grandmother came up, touched, and this is a bitch
      1. 0
        31 July 2015 22: 26
        Quote: atalef
        As the late General Swan said
        The swan didn't say that angry and the inscription on the treasury ticket is just an inscription and it is not necessary to take it seriously, an engagement ring in 1984 cost 120 rubles (a little more than 1 gram).
        1. 0
          31 July 2015 22: 32
          Quote: fif21
          The swan didn't say that

          said i'm a living witness
          1991, item Strugi Red, Airborne training ground hi
          Quote: fif21
          and the inscription on the treasury ticket is just an inscription

          So here on ...-- they deceived (only don't tell anyone about this in VO, they won’t believe it)
          1. 0
            31 July 2015 22: 40
            Quote: atalef
            said i'm a living witness

            Do you want to fly Mi-8 ?! wassat
            1. +3
              31 July 2015 22: 52
              I would not believe them especially local companies from Israel, storytellers 100%
              Especially the atalef would not be a dreamer, this orthodox would still not write something especially about life in Russia. Expert lol
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      3. 0
        31 July 2015 22: 30

        As the late General Swan said
        - On the fence the same thing is written, grandmother came up, touched, and this is a bitch
        Well, what’s wrong with you for God's chosen ones? Tell me better, what is written on the shekel?
        1. +1
          31 July 2015 23: 26
          Quote: BilliBoms09
          Tell me better, what is written on the shekel?

          Shekel laughing
      4. 0
        1 August 2015 12: 53
        Yes, you are still the troll, as I understand it, you yourself do not understand anything, and you are misleading others. You are our academician and a specialist in finance and in politics and in economics and in history, well, right to match Lomonosov.
    4. 0
      31 July 2015 22: 36
      Quote: Alexey M
      So the Soviet ruble, to some extent, was gold.
      This is not a Soviet chervonets! The Soviet model of 1961, and this money was already printed by the capitalists (the collapse of the USSR was already a foregone conclusion)
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    6. 0
      1 August 2015 10: 38
      The ruble was a treasury ticket, not a bank ticket. Banking began with a dime.
    7. 0
      5 August 2015 13: 36
      who needs Soviet rubles of the 1961 sample - I’ll fill it off at a 1: 1 rate for non-timber wooden ones ... I bought a hut 3 years ago in a village with land to provide my family with onion-potato-carrot stable currency, and in a closet in a chest, that grandmother who I found a bundle with 3000 !!! Soviet rubles
      mostly three, but also 1, 5, 10, even one 25 was ... the village people said that during life the grandmother haggled with goat yarn and shag-samosad =)
      ... and for what she worked = (
  5. +5
    31 July 2015 19: 51
    Paper endures everything. Playing with paper money is much easier than playing with physical gold. That is why the gold standard of financiers is not satisfied. To get the people out of gold is a much more time-consuming process, I do not say that it is impossible. And you can roll paper currency in a couple of clicks on the computer. What the government and the Central Bank are successfully doing. And then there are a lot of expensive foreign cars at the electorate.
    1. +2
      31 July 2015 22: 34
      Quote: Mikhail M
      Paper endures everything. Playing with paper money is much easier than playing with physical gold.

      Well, yes, try it in your wallet, drag it, and then, how will they give change? Well, it’s necessary to carry the grinder with you., Saw off from ingots
      1. 0
        1 August 2015 12: 59
        Nobody talked about physical gold, but they are talking about the nominal equivalent of the value of gold on paper. Doesn’t bother to think tightly?
        1. +1
          1 August 2015 13: 19
          Quote: renics
          Nobody talked about physical gold, but they are talking about the nominal equivalent of the value of gold on paper. Doesn’t bother to think tightly?

          Are you talking about paper money? Well, say so, and then all this babble
          1. 0
            1 August 2015 13: 37
            “Nobody talked about physical gold, but they are talking about the nominal equivalent of the value of gold on paper. Doesn't it bother to think tightly?
            Are you talking about paper money? Well, say so, and then all this babble. ”
            This was said from the beginning, and if it doesn’t reach anyone, then in this case it is necessary to ask again, and not distort the original meaning in your comments.
  6. +8
    31 July 2015 20: 07
    More than once on "VO" he wrote that in Germany, against the background of gigantic infusions according to the Marshall plan, the free movement of capital was allowed only in 1953. Before that there was a state monopoly. During this time, control mechanisms have been created. Even now I am not against this in our country, it will stop the uncontrolled export of everything that is now.
    I prove that my cu bought honestly earned, it costs nothing.
    It will be more difficult for officials and deputies.
    And so on ...
    Not for nothing that the first thing the liberals did was to allow the free export of capital, go prove that it’s not a camel.
    I, for the return of a closed financial system.
    Those who want to earn money here will come anyway and they will have everything honestly, transparently and openly.
    And who is troubled? However, only the American system of global control will hinder, but this is not our country.
  7. +1
    31 July 2015 20: 24
    just a good article !!
  8. +1
    31 July 2015 21: 34
    There are no fools to sell gold for pieces of paper. But they will sell you for gold EVERYTHING, spat: on sanctions, on the fact that you are an enemy state, an outcast, a dictator, a cannibal .....
  9. +1
    31 July 2015 21: 59
    The most important thing in gold is that it is OFFLINED. That is, it has no statehood. It is for this gold that modern bankers who want to put everything under their control do not like. Gold is everywhere, only the cost of its production is different. If you take any currency, then it has an owner-state that prints it and this state can demand any information on transactions with its currency and can prohibit such transactions, which the United States is doing with success. And with gold such a number will not work. The "gold standard" does not allow uncontrolled printing of money, and besides, it absolutely neutralizes all other currencies, since trading will be conducted specifically for gold, even if electronic or domestic currencies brought to the gold standard. Then there will be no sense in the FRS as a "typewriter" as the entire multi-trillion dollar debt of the United States is in paper wrappers, which can always be neutralized, if converted into gold, it will sink the entire United States. That is why the United States and other globalists oppose the "gold standard" as it knocks out of their hands the main lever of global governance and control.
  10. +2
    31 July 2015 22: 29
    Very surprised by the article of such a plan from Katasonova.
    If I understood everything correctly, then gold ... this is ash of lead and there is no sense from Aurum. So what?
    And in economics we were taught that money should be exactly as much as the country has earned. Moreover, the entire amount of this money must be confirmed by something else ... that in itself is expensive, that in itself is valuable, that in itself is recognized by other states.
    No, of course you can use the kauri shells ... or the pterigopodia of sharks, say. But only a species of wobbegong.
    Some manage to apply dollars.
    And what - the binding of the "green skins" only to the FRS machine. And it would be fine - at least there would be a lot of pieces of paper.
    So - no, some impulses run along the chains. On the World Wide Web - here and there, here and there.
    We bought a bottle in Propoisk, paid with a Visa card ... and somewhere on Wall Street I got extra twenty cents (I exaggerate).
    ...
    German newspapers raised a howl, from a week ago, about Putin’s critical mistake - they say that the great and terrible is increasing the gold reserves of Russia, and therefore has lost 15 billion.
    But, about the fact that the Deutsch themselves slammed their gold - not a word. The Americans told them so - whole gold, whole ... except the one that drowned in the dungeons of Manhattan Bank. They got wiped off.
    The Chineses ... fortified by Fort Knox, when instead of gold bullion they tungsten pigs into it ... they annually increase gold reserves at a rate higher than that of Russia.
    Dashing children, with redoubled energy, swarm through Bermuda and the Bahamas, in search of the golden galleons of Spain from the 15th to 16th centuries.
    ...
    Only our ... academics ... everyone whistles in someone else's tune. Gold is harmful to life. States.
    ...
    Damn, Lenin urged to make toilet bowls out of gold. Instead, they created the Diamond Fund and Torgsin, they drove all the gold from the bourgeoisie over the hill - they bought steam locomotives (exorbitantly, I note).
    And then - they won the war and went into space - ahead of all.
    ...
    Well, now - gold is not needed. Yes. To nobody.
    Therefore, the Americans do not give it away. To nobody.
    And others are forced to not have it.
    ...
    What is it for?
    Obviously, the introduction of a new American currency, instead of empty pieces of paper. And for all 110% of those who are secured - GOLD.
    Everything is more wonderful and wonderful.
  11. +1
    31 July 2015 22: 52
    The experience of the thirties shows and makes you think.
    Are you on the right track, comrades!
  12. +1
    31 July 2015 22: 53
    My opinion ... well, gold cannot be a measure for society.
    For gold is too limited a resource.
    Rather, some kind of equivalent is possible with reference to the number of people ... literate and educated.
    The main thing is to carry out, so to speak, a globally correct calculation statistically.
    And all these oil-gas-hemp. This is temporary.
    Only educated people are able to enrich society. However, education has become a business. And not by introducing humanity to knowledge.
    Although ... the reason for the popularity of gold for humans is still relevant. Rather, you need to know the reason, and not to prohibit and not let go laughing
    However, what's the point of printing money?
    He printed a rupe at home and went about laughing
    And I’ll notice everything under the control of the state.
    Bank transfer rules.
    1. 0
      31 July 2015 23: 15
      You correctly feel the catch with gold here and it is. Only not with reference to the number of people, but with reference to the value of gold in the world market. The only way today can be done without mistakes from the past,
      by issuing into circulation not national, but international money without a specified digital value, but by indicating in them the grams of gold and their value will be denominated at the price of gold in the world gold market. Article by Dmitry Kalinichenko. "The Western Trap of Grandmaster Putin" http://www.rusbg.com/11/dmitriy-kalinichenko-zapadniy-kapkan-grossmeystera-putin
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      1. -1
        31 July 2015 23: 38
        You feel right

        In general, I have a "tower" of finance and credit.
        Just not in relation to the number of people

        to the number of educated people. in all areas.

        All money supply will collapse with gold. And there will be chaos.
        Or the price of it will be lifted to heaven. And all this will have nothing to do with people and money circulation.
        Gold has always been an affordable and quick way to "transfer" power to any point on earth. This is a projection of power.
        With the same success, the role of gold can be played by the new iPhone model, for it is more striking in the eye. Like gold from the Middle Ages.
        1. +1
          1 August 2015 10: 43
          Something before the "invention" of paper money, there was no chaos and nothing collapsed laughing The chaos began just from paper money, especially as a world currency.
        2. 0
          1 August 2015 13: 05
          The money supply, for your information, Mr. financier, collapses not from gold, but from the excessive greed of some people who somehow got access to it. Which carry out unreasonable actions in any field.