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Media: two Russians exchanged for captured Ukrainian security officials

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Aleksandra Aleksandrov and Yevgeny Yerofeyev, whom the SBU regards as Russian military, were exchanged for Ukrainian security officials who were held captive by the militia, reports RIA News with reference to Gazeta.ru.

Media: two Russians exchanged for captured Ukrainian security officials


The publication of this information was provided by lawyer Alexandrova Konstantin Kravchuk, as well as unnamed sources in law enforcement agencies.

“At the moment it is only known that the Russians who were subjected to torture were exchanged for several people who fought on the side of Kiev, who were in captivity of the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Lugansk people's republics. Among them are both Ukrainians and citizens of other states, ”writes the publication.

The Defense Ministry refused to comment on the information.

The agency recalls that Yerofeyev and Aleksandrov were detained on May 16 near one of the Ukrainian roadblocks in the Donbass, in Kiev they were immediately announced by the Russian military. The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation confirmed the Russian citizenship of the detainees, but at the same time stated that neither the one at the time of the capture was active soldiers.
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  1. aleks_29296
    aleks_29296 28 July 2015 08: 33
    +7
    the tortured Russians were exchanged for several people who fought on the side of Kiev,


    As always: ours are crippled, and Ukrainian ones are crisp. Not fair somehow.
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      1. aleks_29296
        aleks_29296 28 July 2015 08: 38
        +9
        Do you think this is nonsense? Or resentment jumped at you that you were not the first? During my stay on the site, my comments were in the first place twice, the last one now. I do not chase it.
        I can concede if you are so offended.
        1. O_RUS
          O_RUS 28 July 2015 08: 50
          +7
          Quote: Private OITR
          aleks_29296, again staked out the first place, writing nonsense


          Quote: aleks_29296
          During my stay on the site, my comments were in the first place twice, the last one now.



          Both of you ... is it appropriate to have a "showdown?"
      2. ispaniard
        ispaniard 28 July 2015 08: 44
        +13
        With the return of the guys. Homeland has not forgottenno matter how much r ... but some would not like to pour on Russia. And for certain domestic services, everything that happened was a good lesson for the future ...
        1. Tanais
          Tanais 28 July 2015 08: 52
          +9
          Quote: ispaniard
          And for certain domestic services, everything that happened was a good lesson for the future ...

          That's it...

          It is high time to develop a "model of behavior" in such situations. And tough.
          One gets the impression that "some" and not quite even "civilians" did not imagine that this could happen. As always: "winter came suddenly" ...
        2. monk10
          monk10 28 July 2015 09: 02
          +1
          Refuted already. It's a pity.
          1. Tanais
            Tanais 28 July 2015 09: 16
            +5
            Quote: monah10
            Refuted already. It's a pity.

            And I, then, why am I "crucified" here?

            "Lyuli" would "podval" and "RIA Novosti", and whoever posted unverified information.

            "Article" "for Fakes", in the Site Rules, has not been canceled yet?
        3. Juborg
          Juborg 28 July 2015 09: 16
          +4
          Quote: ispaniard
          With the return of the guys. Homeland has not forgottenno matter how much r ... but some would not like to pour on Russia. And for certain domestic services, everything that happened was a good lesson for the future ...

          Only one "but", he learns from his mistakes, smart from strangers, while we are in the place of a fool.
        4. avt
          avt 28 July 2015 09: 19
          +4
          Quote: ispaniard
          With the return of the guys. Homeland has not forgotten

          But how did the geo-academician Ivashov wring his hands in writing lately - betrayed they say!? wassat
          Quote: ispaniard
          . And for certain domestic services, everything that happened was a good lesson for the future ...

          This lesson consists in the rules of the service itself - not to reckon with the fact that you are in it, again there is an old saying - don’t confess, confess, don’t write, wrote - don’t sign, signed - refuse.
          Quote: Tanais
          It is high time to develop a "model of behavior" in such situations. And tough.

          As you can see, old people have worked out everything before us in an understandable and quite accessible form, the rest is achieved by specific training of the service ..
        5. Grandfather bear
          Grandfather bear 28 July 2015 10: 38
          +1
          I would like to remind everyone. People are being killed and tortured because of the words of the leaders of the "politicians", but these leaders came under the distribution only once, in Nuremberg. And by the way, they all these "politicians" in the voice "sing" that a "politician" should not be responsible for all the deaths that he brought with his "politics".
          "Politicians" often talk about "justice". But, in this phrase there are two words and both are not specific. "Right" -she? Whose "court"?
          There is another word, justice. Understandable and completely denied by all "politicians" without exception.
          Since justice requires an answer from them, for all the troubles that they caused.
          Here to ask in fairness with Pig and Hare, and indeed with every grunt! Yes to the maximum!
        6. Vanya Ivanov
          Vanya Ivanov 28 July 2015 13: 36
          -1
          Already refuted. In the course of the magazine, the info was thrown out ahead of time and everything went wrong.
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    3. siberalt
      siberalt 28 July 2015 08: 37
      +6
      Interestingly, how would society react to the Russian proposal to exchange Savchenko for Yatsenyuk? laughing It seems that they would fall into a storm of applause.
      1. Tanais
        Tanais 28 July 2015 09: 19
        0
        Quote: siberalt
        Interestingly, how would society react to the Russian proposal to exchange Savchenko for Yatsenyuk? It seems that they would fall into a storm of applause.

        Rabbit, he is on the farm, of course more practical ...
      2. veksha50
        veksha50 28 July 2015 09: 34
        0
        Quote: siberalt
        on the offer of Russia to exchange Savchenko for Yatsenyuk?



        By and large, neither one nor the other G ... Russia does not need ... But Yaytsenyuha Ukrainians themselves soon get sick of ...
    4. RBLip
      RBLip 28 July 2015 08: 42
      +4
      Quote: aleks_29296
      Not fair somehow.

      and what do you suggest? Well, let's kaklam legs-arms break ....
      will it make it easier for you?
      1. aleks_29296
        aleks_29296 28 July 2015 08: 56
        +3
        Quote: RBLip
        and what do you suggest? Well, let's kaklam legs-arms break ....
        will it make it easier for you?


        And no one offers to break arms and legs, but looking at all these exchanges, when on the one hand they are well-fed and healthy, and on the other, some cannot move independently. Some measures must be taken. Perhaps they are being taken, but so far we have what we have.
        1. RBLip
          RBLip 28 July 2015 09: 39
          +2
          Quote: aleks_29296
          but for now we have what we have.

          Yes I agree. but for now ... only grit your teeth, but write about it in VO.
    5. Drmadfisher
      Drmadfisher 28 July 2015 08: 47
      +10
      all captive dill chips need to be implanted. Traded, turned out to be again at the forefront - get a homing grenade laughing
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 28 July 2015 09: 21
        +3
        RIA News refer to Gazeta.ru, good ...No. How to drink to give information from them fake.
        In and the Security Service writes that fake.
        "The Russian edition has published another fake. We have not changed any Grushniki. They are in Ukraine, awaiting the completion of the investigation and trial," SBU press secretary Olena Gitlyanskaya wrote on her Facebook page on Tuesday.
        RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20150728/1150789600.html#ixzz3hAGjGHFF

    6. Homo
      Homo 28 July 2015 11: 21
      0
      Quote: aleks_29296
      As always: ours are crippled, and Ukrainian ones are crisp. Not fair somehow

      SS "achievements" do not give you rest? Do you offer to catch up and overtake?
    7. kodxnumx
      kodxnumx 28 July 2015 11: 42
      0
      If the exchange took place then this is great news, God grant them a speedy recovery!
  2. Owl27
    Owl27 28 July 2015 08: 33
    +5
    Well, well, you need to correct your mistakes, quietly exchanged the guys quietly without noise, now figure out what's what. Ours apparently found arguments and facts, otherwise they threatened - to shoot, to see they changed their minds.
    1. Kasym
      Kasym 28 July 2015 09: 05
      +2
      Are these not those "GRUSHNIKI" about whom Kiev so yelled? Why are they exchanging such a trump card? The Kiev "sensation" was blown away along the way. Now they probably think about the new one.
      And the watch for the Kiev authorities is ticking faster and faster. One month of summer remained, but about gas and credit ... silence. So where are the keys to Kiev - in Brussels-Washington they say ?! We'll see. wink
      1. 0255
        0255 28 July 2015 09: 21
        +2
        Quote: Kasym
        Are these not those "GRUSHNIKI" about whom Kiev so yelled? Why are they exchanging such a trump card? The Kiev "sensation" was blown away along the way. Now they probably think about the new one.

        The censor wrote that the GRU refused them, how much jubilation there was in the comments "Putin threw his own."
  3. Frigate
    Frigate 28 July 2015 08: 34
    +4
    so are citizens of other states, ”

    It’s not clear why these people aren’t being put in place, but they are being taken prisoner and still being changed.
    1. ispaniard
      ispaniard 28 July 2015 09: 11
      +1
      Quote: Frigate
      so are citizens of other states, ”

      It’s not clear why these people aren’t being put in place, but they are being taken prisoner and still being changed.


      So this is the most exchanged / best seller laughing On "Their cyborgs" they p ... t, watch the video on YouTube those prisoners of "Waltzman's Warriors" that from the Donetsk airport are still held captive by the militias in Ukraine, they DO NOT need anyone in Ukraine.
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  4. avvg
    avvg 28 July 2015 08: 34
    +3
    It’s good that everything ended well.
    1. Leviton
      Leviton 28 July 2015 08: 39
      +3
      Quote: avvg
      It’s good that everything ended well.

      That's for sure, I don’t know. Maybe they really are no longer serving in the RF Armed Forces, but in any case they are worthy that Russia is not abandoning its own people. Turning their homeland (or to their new homeland ...)
  5. Sergey Sitnikov
    Sergey Sitnikov 28 July 2015 08: 34
    -1
    CORRECTLY (((you can’t leave guys at the rats, Kiev must be burned with iskanders, gouge all the bridges across the Dnieper and let the army be supplied with rubber boats, it’s enough to pull the rubber like with Hitler in 33-39
    1. Drmadfisher
      Drmadfisher 28 July 2015 08: 43
      +4
      and the city, moreover, is a very beautiful city, it’s a pity the Dloid went
  6. KOH
    KOH 28 July 2015 08: 40
    +3
    Yes, they have already refuted, no one has exchanged anyone, another duck ...
  7. Fu fighter
    Fu fighter 28 July 2015 08: 43
    +1
    While there is no official evidence, the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense sculpts a hunchback and they say that they know nothing and that both Russians are in the hospital under guard. We need to wait, because there may be a stuffing.
  8. Fu fighter
    Fu fighter 28 July 2015 08: 46
    +5
    Lesson at school:
    - Tell Mykola what do you want to be when you grow up?
    “I will work hard to become rich.” I will buy a house, a car, I will buy expensive gifts and gold jewelry for my beloved wife.
    “And you, Petro, who do you want to be?”
    - Zhynkoy Mykoly!
  9. Masya masya
    Masya masya 28 July 2015 08: 47
    +4
    "SBU denied the exchange of Russians Aekandrov and Erofeev for ukroin security officials" - Look
  10. Russian jacket
    Russian jacket 28 July 2015 08: 50
    0
    If not a fake, then I imagine how the liberals will choke with anger.
  11. Fu fighter
    Fu fighter 28 July 2015 08: 54
    +1
    In short, someone is lying, or the media or the SBU:
    told the SBU spokeswoman Elena Gitlyanskaya.

    "This information does not correspond to reality," Gitlyanskaya noted. "It is very strange that the Ukrainian media so actively picked up Russian fakes."

    "The Russian military (Erofeev and Aleksandrov - ed.) Are now in Kiev and continue to wait for the completion of the investigation and trial. Investigative actions are continuing," she stressed.
  12. Fu fighter
    Fu fighter 28 July 2015 08: 58
    0
    According to Budik, he was surprised at the information about the release of the fighters, since as of Monday morning negotiations were still ongoing.

    “So far, according to my data, they are in their place. According to my information, there was no exchange, ”said the adviser to the Deputy Minister of Defense of Ukraine.

    The high-ranking source of the Russian opposition Novaya Gazeta in the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine does not know about this either. According to him, if the information about the exchange was correct, then “it is very bad”, since a completely different exchange plan was discussed. The official urged the media to wait for dinner, as, in his opinion, the information may turn out to be fake.

    “This event is too unexpected,” the source said.

    A source in the Presidential Administration of Ukraine said that so far there is no data on the exchange, and "as of 12:00 on Monday, both were in the hospital prison."
  13. Fu fighter
    Fu fighter 28 July 2015 09: 00
    0
    I think the European or Amer foreign tourist too will remain in the DPR
  14. SERGEY UI
    SERGEY UI 28 July 2015 09: 15
    +1
    Whom to believe request ??
    The Ukrainian security service denied information about the exchange of two Russians - GRU special forces fighters Yevgeny Yerofeyev and Alexander Alexandrov. "This information does not correspond to reality," Gitlyanskaya noted.

    "The Russian military (Erofeev and Aleksandrov - ed.) Are now in Kiev and continue to wait for the completion of the investigation and trial. Investigative actions are continuing," she stressed.
    Until they are shown live on the territory of the DPR / LPR or Russia, I will not believe request
  15. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 28 July 2015 09: 17
    0
    It was simply necessary to return. Therefore, in this situation, the concept of "fair-not fair" is probably not appropriate. And the showdown over captivity will still be, tell me.
  16. SAA
    SAA 28 July 2015 09: 47
    -4
    Though they returned the guys like that. Welcome back.
  17. shimus
    shimus 28 July 2015 10: 37
    +2
    Dear readers, how many DECADES already our valiant GRU has been conducting special operations around the world !!! HAVE YOU ALREADY Heard in any reports or elsewhere, what would be mentioned about the brave guys GRUSHNIKI captured ??? Even if our brave guys fell into captivity, then you need to be COMPLETE ..... scrap to tell the enemy that they say so and so, I’m a combat unit of the ELITE division of Russia GRU !!! Guys, well, still they served in the army !!!
    They are such masters of reincarnation and hanging noodles on the ears !!!
    Personally, I believe that these comrades have nothing to do with the GRU, well, maybe they served urgently or were there as civilian personnel, for example, auxiliary workers !!!
  18. Maksus
    Maksus 28 July 2015 10: 38
    +1
    Have a bearded man decided on his hands? And sometimes the right one is shot, sometimes the left. Yes, and they seem to have adopted citizenship dill.
  19. vladimirw
    vladimirw 28 July 2015 10: 46
    0
    exchanged is good, but how captured you got is very bad
  20. Eustace
    Eustace 28 July 2015 12: 09
    0
    Quietly, without scandal, they resolved the issue. The Russian Foreign Ministry is big +!
  21. senima56
    senima56 28 July 2015 12: 49
    +1
    What is this "special forces of the GRU", which is being taken prisoner? ... What is this "special forces of the GRU", which, once captured, surrenders everyone and everything? .... In my opinion this is not "special forces of the GRU", but shit!
  22. senima56
    senima56 28 July 2015 13: 50
    +2
    Was the exchange really? Or is it just another "duck"?
  23. shimus
    shimus 28 July 2015 14: 24
    +1
    Quote: senima56
    Was the exchange really? Or is it just another "duck"?

    Traded, most likely, but their fate will no longer be known to anyone!
  24. Article 2 of the article
    Article 2 of the article 28 July 2015 18: 21
    +1
    The situation is murky, as is everything related to Ukraine. In my opinion, if the guys are somehow connected with the GRU, then professionalism raises many questions. Yes, we do not abandon our own people, whoever it is, but their declarations of honor do not make them. I will assume that they were "begged" for testimony (torture is not necessary, there are a lot of miracles of truth) But in the GRU they are not children, situations are calculated several steps ahead and with captivity in particular. It would be foolish to think that a system of behavior in such situations has not been developed (if they really relate to the GRU). In general, let's see how events will develop further, otherwise everything looks more like another fake
  25. Cartman
    Cartman 28 July 2015 22: 07
    -2
    have already denied