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Washington is afraid that Cuba will transfer to Guantanamo Russia

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After the restoration of diplomatic relations between the United States and Cuba, interest in the Guantanamo base again arose. Havana insists on returning the base. In this regard, the director of the American Institute of Cuban Studies Jamie Suchliki expressed concerns that after returning the base could be transferred to the Cubans of Russia, the newspaper writes Look.



“The legal status of Guantanamo is impeccable, as are all the treaties that the US federal government concluded with indigenous tribes since the time of the Act of the Expropriation of Indians from 1885 of the Year,” the author notes. “This impeccability is in the uncomplicated simplicity of the text, which the natives, by definition, should understand literally:“ Guantanamo is acquired by the United States for an indefinite lease ”(that is, forever) for the 2000 peso in the United States gold currency a year.” In 1934, the payment amount was raised to 1300 dollars.

According to the author, "Cuba will never get Guantanamo back," and "talks about the transfer of the object to Russia are generally from the realm of fantasy." Russia simply does not need it.

“No this is not a base for submarines, there is no adequate port, docks, supply system, and you can refuel in Venezuela,” the newspaper writes. - And why is there a submarine base? To cover them from Florida or just blocked when leaving Cuba? Repeat Khrushchev's mistakes and pull out an offensive weapon nobody is going to the "backyard" of the USA. This is not consistent with the concepts of modern warfare, nor the strategy of Russia, written on paper. ”

In general, the number of propaganda "horror stories" on the subject of "the Russian threat" has recently increased at times. This threat has become so multivariate that it became difficult to show it on the world map. In addition to Russia's hypothetical seizure of foreign territories, the press is frightening the public with Russian hypersonic rockets, murderer satellites, new maritime systems ... and now Guantanamo has been added.

“It is noteworthy that all these threats are of a“ strategic nature ”understandable to the US military-industrial complex. The production of “Almaty” on mass production doesn’t bother them - these are European problems, but the two bombers that fly up to California are the daily broadcasts of all the major TV channels of federal coverage, ”the author concludes.
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  1. sever.56
    sever.56 27 July 2015 12: 19
    +11
    And they are rightly afraid ... Cuba has the right to allow the deployment of troops of friendly states on its territory just like any other sovereign state. Such a base, if it is located, can slightly sober up the hot State Department heads.
    Every day is not Sunday. And then, with a brazen face, stuffed their bases on the border with Russia, and they say that Russia threatens them!
    1. Baikonur
      Baikonur 27 July 2015 12: 21
      +3
      And they’re rightly afraid ...
      Because Putin personally will put the Drum there! And all the phishingtons! And he will torture them with Russian vodka, buckwheat, borscht to the music of the Russian balalaika orchestra! And the guards are evil Russian bears!laughing
      1. lukewarm
        lukewarm 27 July 2015 12: 32
        +3
        Yes x with him with a drum (by the way, who is it). Why did he release Hodor?
    2. Vend
      Vend 27 July 2015 12: 22
      +6
      Quote: sever.56
      And they’re rightly afraid ...

      And all that mattresses are afraid. laughing Russia launched a satellite, mattresses are afraid, Armata released, mattresses are afraid, we are raising the economy mattresses are afraid laughing Circus and only laughing
      1. atalef
        atalef 27 July 2015 17: 01
        +3
        Quote: Wend
        And mattresses are afraid of everything. Russia launched a satellite, mattresses are afraid, Armata released, mattresses are afraid, we are raising the economy mattresses are afraid

        Really. like Rambler you will not open, so the article is that they are once again afraid of something.
        Interestingly, they read Rambler --- to know what they are afraid of?
      2. atalef
        atalef 27 July 2015 17: 01
        0
        Quote: Wend
        And mattresses are afraid of everything. Russia launched a satellite, mattresses are afraid, Armata released, mattresses are afraid, we are raising the economy mattresses are afraid

        Really. like Rambler you will not open, so the article is that they are once again afraid of something.
        Interestingly, they read Rambler --- to know what they are afraid of?
      3. meriem1
        meriem1 27 July 2015 17: 35
        +1
        They are afraid that we will get their diseases. Learn to torture.
    3. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 27 July 2015 12: 28
      +8
      Quote: sever.56
      Cuba has the right to allow the deployment of troops of friendly states on its territory just like any other sovereign state.

      Judging by the fact that the US Embassy has opened in Cuba, Cuba will soon cease to be a sovereign state. And at the same time, it will lose the right to decide not only questions about the deployment of foreign troops, but also to decide something at all. Examples - whole Latin America. And now also Europe.
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 27 July 2015 12: 37
        0
        This is more true, brother of Fidel - this is not Fidel for you, it will be thinner.
        1. atalef
          atalef 27 July 2015 17: 03
          +2
          Quote: NordUral
          This is more true, Fidel’s brother - it’s not Fidel, it’ll be thinner

          By the way, Fidel is still alive, interesting. But how did he react to the restoration of diplomatic relations? Or the same (as expected) - knows nothing
          It resembles a well-known tandem - one seems to mow and sleep all the time, and the second does not notice or know anything.
      2. A-Sim
        A-Sim 27 July 2015 12: 49
        +1
        Has the American embassy been closed in Moscow? Or Russia, in your statement "... will soon cease to be a sovereign state."?
    4. Meh-forester
      Meh-forester 27 July 2015 12: 32
      0
      Quote: sever.56
      And they’re rightly afraid ...

      Yes, they don't seem to be afraid of anything, this is a "LEAK" in the media, just an attempt to evade and explain their unwillingness to leave Cuba. Painfully "platform" is comfortable.
    5. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 27 July 2015 12: 33
      +2
      Pralna, we will sow corn on the lands of Guantanamo, and our new harvesters will plow the land and harvest the crops, from the category of surprises for our "partners". Well, there, vertical takeoff, afterburner, acceleration of Mach 5 and winged low-flying haymaking equipment for 200 Kt. Friendship in Russian means protecting friends, Yankees, and you and Venseremos up to the tonsils! am
    6. Sasha 19871987
      Sasha 19871987 27 July 2015 13: 24
      +2
      not the topic will be said, but there you can make a pioneer camp for the most harmful officials ... they all want a place in the hot sun, that's about to get fun games in the fresh air in the form of digging holes, felling trees, digging holes and planting trees. ..
    7. Altona
      Altona 27 July 2015 13: 44
      0
      Quote: sever.56
      And they are rightly afraid ... Cuba has the right to allow the deployment of troops of friendly states on its territory just like any other sovereign state. Such a base, if it is located, can slightly sober up the hot State Department heads.

      ---------------------
      Guantanamo showed it on TV, an ordinary manure sump, the reservation is natural, it certainly doesn’t have any military significance, if Guantanamo is meant ...
    8. atalef
      atalef 27 July 2015 17: 00
      0
      Quote: sever.56
      And rightly afraid

      Do not be afraid, the article is a complete fake.
      This territory has been surrendered to the USA and Cuba in no way (and even more so now, after the restoration of diplomatic relations) --- it will not be overpowered

      Quote: sever.56
      Cuba has the right to allow the deployment of troops of friendly states on its territory

      So, what is stopping her now from allocating to Russia any part of the coast? Or does Cuba have little?
      Quote: sever.56
      Such a base, if it is located, can slightly sober up the hot State Department heads

      Here I am about that. Why not give Russia - Guantanamo-2, even having a common fence with USA
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  3. andrei332809
    andrei332809 27 July 2015 12: 22
    +2
    Cuba will give Russia ... Cuba
  4. Trailer
    Trailer 27 July 2015 12: 22
    +4
    It’s ridiculous. In the 2002 year, they just left their military base in Cuba, and now for no reason we will take an American? Speech about the center in Lourdes.

    Since 2004, due to the deterioration of Russian-American relations, the Russian leadership has been considering the possibility of restoring the Russian base in Lourdes. At the beginning of 2014, negotiations with Cuba on this subject intensified [1].

    In July 2014, according to several media reports, during the visit of Russian President V. Putin to Cuba, an agreement was reached in principle on the resumption of the activities of the [1] [7] center. However, V. Putin himself denied the information about such an agreement, stressing that “we are able to solve the problems in the field of defense capability without this component”
    1. mishaia_23
      mishaia_23 27 July 2015 12: 35
      +1
      An urgent need to place the GLONASS base station in Cuba.
      Well, just in case ...
      soldier
      1. atalef
        atalef 27 July 2015 17: 06
        0
        Quote: mishaia_23
        An urgent need to place the GLONASS base station in Cuba. Just in case

        A (only quieter that the enemies would not hear). whisper in your ear what kind of terrible beast and deadly weapon
        GLONASS BASIC STATION?
        1. Nosgoth
          Nosgoth 29 July 2015 14: 21
          0
          For more accurate positioning, satellite stations also work with satellites.

          There have already been "graters" about this

          http://lifenews.ru/news/134257
          http://www.cnews.ru/top/2014/06/02/rossiya_otklyuchila_amerikanskim_voennym_naze


          mnye_stancii_gps_574202
          http://www.zr.ru/content/news/653469-rossiya-chastichno-otklyuchila-nazemnye-sta


          ncii-gps /


          http://mrmurtazin.com/2014/05/13/otklyuchenie-gps-v-rossii-mify-i-realnost-etogo

          -processa /
          "... Ground stations are needed in order to ensure the highest accuracy - for example, tens of centimeters. This is necessary for scientific research, in geophysics, military purposes. ..."

          "... In particular, the United States does not permit the deployment of GLONASS stations in the United States and is unlikely to permit. Another point is that in Ulyanovsk, where the transfer point for NATO aircraft was made, a similar ground station was also installed, without any permission from Russia. This is standard a package of equipment for such NATO complexes and bases. I cannot guarantee that an exception was made for Russia, hardly anyone thought about it at the moment when they gave permission for this transshipment point. ... "
  5. vladimirw
    vladimirw 27 July 2015 12: 22
    +1
    the Yankees again scare themselves and under this business the military budget is inflated.
  6. Air Force captain
    Air Force captain 27 July 2015 12: 22
    0
    "AND angry exceptional "horror stories
  7. Zoldat_A
    Zoldat_A 27 July 2015 12: 25
    +2
    Nobody is going to repeat Khrushchev's mistakes and pull out offensive weapons into the "backyard" of the United States. This does not correspond to either the concepts of modern war, or the strategy of Russia, written on paper. "
    America measures everything by its standards. If they are shouting about peace and are preparing to fight with Russia (they have been preparing for it since April of the 1945!), This does not mean that someone will repeat their stupid things and surround America with the same ring as they are in Russia. Although, of course, following American logic, the Russian base in Cuba would be very useful for monitoring, for example, the Taliban or ISIS (this is about the Polish-American elements of missile defense, aimed, according to the US, to Iran).
  8. Penetrator
    Penetrator 27 July 2015 12: 25
    +3
    And why does Russia need a prison at a distance of 9.5 thousand km from its borders? In a different capacity, this base has recently been our "American partners". didn't seem to use
  9. little girl15
    little girl15 27 July 2015 12: 28
    +1
    It is necessary to raise the military budget, so horror stories are invented.
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 27 July 2015 12: 31
    0
    upon return, the base can be transferred by the Cubans of Russia

    Another escalation of tension. Russia "has spread its paws all over the world," and we do not have enough money to defend the United States against this threat. Give, who can have several hundred billion. This song sounded both in the 70s and in the 80s. I'm tired of it.
  11. tomket
    tomket 27 July 2015 12: 32
    +1
    Can anyone explain how the American prison base still exists in Cuba?
    1. atalef
      atalef 27 July 2015 17: 07
      +1
      Quote: tomket
      Can anyone explain how the American prison base still exists in Cuba?

      Very simple, my land, I want to - tossing and turning.
  12. gelezo47
    gelezo47 27 July 2015 12: 34
    0
    That's right! We will not only create a base for submarines there, but also build an airfield for the Tu-160 and Tu-95, a space launch pad for flying saucers, barracks for one hundred thousand soldiers of the underwater infantry, and we will also bring an army and navy song and dance ensemble ... lol
  13. demo
    demo 27 July 2015 12: 35
    0
    Soon it will reach the point of absurdity - an analogue of the Ukrainian agitprop!
    True, Americans may ask a question - where then does our largest defense budget go?
    He can hire Russians, and they will create the best army for us, for less money.

    Lack of measure, in everything, is a sign of wretchedness of the mind.
  14. semuil
    semuil 27 July 2015 12: 37
    -1
    Tremble the bourgeoisie, we are following you!
  15. Old26
    Old26 27 July 2015 12: 38
    +2
    Quote: Wend
    And then the mattresses are afraid

    This is already here, in the VO they thought they were afraid. The phrase then this brow sounded
    Director of the American Institute for Cuban Studies, Jamie Suchlyki, expressed concern


    Here you leave the house, the sky seems to be clear, but there are thunderclouds on the horizon. Are you worried that it will rain, or are you afraid that it will rain? And here they have already put an equal sign between fear and fear. The difference between these two concepts is quite large
  16. Pacifist
    Pacifist 27 July 2015 12: 40
    +1
    To whom will Cuba transfer the base on its territory, and whether it will transfer at all, the Cuban affair concerns only it.
  17. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 27 July 2015 12: 44
    +3
    Quote: tomket
    Can anyone explain how the American prison base still exists in Cuba?


    Because: "Guantanamo is acquired by the United States on an indefinite lease" (that is, forever) for 2000 pesos in the gold currency of the United States per year. "
    But about the fact that Russia immediately rushes to occupy this American heritage - this is an unconditional fake (lies, if in Russian and in an accessible language). Nobody is going to push incredible money there for an incomprehensible military-political weight. And let them continue to torture the Taliban and others like them there. Bardak Obamych, by the way, in the pre-election campaign threatened to close this nest of lawlessness, and they gave a black man a look on his hands so that he would not go to adult uncles.
    1. Bongo
      Bongo 27 July 2015 13: 25
      +4
      “Guantanamo’s legal status is impeccable, like all the agreements that the US federal government has made with indigenous tribes since the 1885 Indians Expropriation Act,
      wassat
      The one who wrote this is clearly at odds with history and common sense. negative The agreement was concluded not with the "indigenous tribes" which by that time were simply exterminated by the Spaniards, but with the then government of Cuba. The current status of the base is regulated contract of 1934 yearconcluded after a series of coups d'etat in Cuba in the early 1930's. Americans categorically do not intend to return the base to Cuba.
      Publication on VO about the past and present Guantanamo.
      http://topwar.ru/63433-amerikanskaya-voenno-morskaya-baza-guantanamo-na-kube.htm

      l
  18. Frigate
    Frigate 27 July 2015 12: 45
    0
    No one has decided anything yet, but the Americans have already figured out how it will be. Soon the peysanuty will scare the Americans with the fact that the Russians will throw them into a black hole. There is nothing impossible.
    After thinking, the Americans are already shuddering from their own bunch. laughing
  19. ydjin
    ydjin 27 July 2015 14: 50
    0
    Yeah, the bad thing is everywhere, they don’t give the Americans life! Do Panimash surround from all sides! laughing
  20. Ajent cho
    Ajent cho 27 July 2015 14: 53
    0
    Washington is afraid that Cuba will transfer to Guantanamo Russia
    Finally, they began to be afraid of the cause!
  21. Zingvar
    Zingvar 27 July 2015 15: 06
    0
    They will not give Guantanamo to Cuba because there is nowhere to go to prison.
  22. solohan
    solohan 27 July 2015 15: 12
    0
    I looked at the post dedicated to the base in guantanamo and I can not understand where there is electricity there is water where waste products go bring a burger is one thing and then it’s necessary to bury it you shouldn’t see anything there who will enlighten the dark
    1. zyablik.olga
      zyablik.olga 28 July 2015 04: 38
      +2
      Quote: solohan
      I looked at the post dedicated to the base in guantanamo and I can not understand where there is electricity there is water where waste products go bring a burger is one thing and then it’s necessary to bury it you shouldn’t see anything there who will enlighten the dark

      Fuel oil, diesel fuel and everything you need in Guantanamo are regularly delivered by tankers and supply vessels. There is nothing complicated about it. request Waste products and other wastes are simply dumped into the sea. For example, until recently, this was done in Vladivostok, and this city is much larger in population of the base in Guantanamo.
  23. Alexey Boukin
    Alexey Boukin 27 July 2015 16: 27
    +2
    Quote: Wend
    And mattresses are afraid of everything. laughing Russia launched a satellite, mattresses are afraid, released Armata, mattresses are afraid, we raise the economy mattresses are afraid laughing Circus and only laughing

    The Americans are deliberately frightened with tales of the Russian threat so that they do not "arise" against the gigantic spending on military programs.
  24. Megatron
    Megatron 27 July 2015 16: 56
    0
    I certainly don’t like Khrushchev, but why is missile deployment in Cuba considered a mistake?
    It was just a great move.
  25. Old26
    Old26 27 July 2015 17: 23
    +1
    Quote: Megatron
    I certainly don’t like Khrushchev, but why is missile deployment in Cuba considered a mistake? It was just a great move.

    This move almost led to disaster. At the same time, we had fewer chances to survive than the Americans
    1. Megatron
      Megatron 27 July 2015 19: 37
      +2
      But we do not know what the states would do if we did not answer them adequately.
      Pershing in Turkey and West. Germany, then we simply had nothing to cover them with.
  26. Old26
    Old26 28 July 2015 00: 35
    +1
    Quote: Megatron
    But we do not know what the states would do if we did not answer them adequately. Pershing in Turkey and West. Germany, then we simply had nothing to cover them with.

    Pershing in Turkey and West Germany ???? It is famously ... Of course, I apologize, but speaking on the Caribbean crisis, isn’t it better to first teach the materiel ??? And then somehow it turns ugly. Reasoning about the Caribbean missile crisis and everything falls into one pile.
    Something during this period, "Pershing" suddenly appeared in Germany and Turkey. Although then MRBMs were located in England, Italy and Turkey ... And not Pershing, but "Torah" and "Jupiters" ......
  27. PValery53
    PValery53 28 July 2015 01: 09
    0
    And why are they (the USA) afraid that Cuba will give Guantanamo to Russia? - It's not scary at all!
  28. sergeyzzz
    sergeyzzz 28 July 2015 13: 30
    +1
    Quote: gelezo47
    , cosmodrome for flying saucers, barracks for one hundred thousand soldiers of the underwater infantry

    Underwater infantry? This is something new, I guess I lagged behind life ... I know about underwater satellites, we send them there instead of space regularly, and now it means the infantry there too.