Islamization and de-christianization of the Middle East

Islamization and de-christianization of the Middle East

The Middle East and North Africa are rapidly becoming Islamized, while the process of de-Christianization of the countries of these regions continues at an accelerated pace. It should be noted that the process of de-Christianization did not begin this spring, but much earlier.


A century ago, Christians in the Middle East were up to a quarter of the population of the region. In 2010, this figure was no more than 5% - from about 12 to 15 million. So, if in Syria at the beginning of the 20th century there were up to a third of the Christian population, now there are no more than 9-10%. In Lebanon, 1932% of Christians were in 55, according to 2005, up to 34%. How quickly the process of de-christianizing the region went is visible in Palestine: there were up to 85% of Christians after World War II in Bethlehem, in 2010 there were 12% left; in Nazareth, the Christian population also prevailed, now there are no more than 24% there. In Jerusalem, the number of Christians fell from 53% in 1922 to the current 2%. If at the end of the British government in Palestine there were 10% Christians, now there are no more than 1,5% on the lands of the Palestinian Authority, including the Gaza Strip. In Egypt, the number of Christians has almost doubled since 1970, about 10% of the country's population remained, and the number continues to decrease rapidly.

War factor in iraq

Interestingly, the most important factor in reducing the proportion of Christians in the population of the Middle East region was the war in Iraq, which was unleashed by the United States and NATO.

When the regime of Saddam Hussein, in which Christians lived relatively normally, was overthrown, the radical Islamists accused the Christian community of Iraq of collaborationism, they began to call them accomplices "crusaders" and "assistants of the American troops." Attacks on Christian temples, their explosions, murders, beatings and kidnappings, not to mention such “nonsense” as threats against Christian community leaders and ordinary people, have become commonplace in Iraq. A century later, medieval Jizya was restored in Iraq: a special tax for Christians, which sometimes amounts to hundreds or even thousands of dollars.

The archbishop of the Chaldean Catholic Diocese of Kirkuk reported in 2009, that after 2003, 710 killing of Catholics in the whole of Iraq was recorded. Hundreds of thousands of Christians fled the country, tens of thousands moved to Iraqi Kurdistan (the Kurds did not show such intolerance to Christians). As a result, Iraq was almost completely cleared of Christians, out of 1,5 million Christians who lived in the country under Hussein, no more than 150 thousand people remained in the country.

The main factor that led to the elimination of the Christian segment in the population of Iraq, was the invasion of NATO. Experts note that under Saddam Hussein, Christians in the state lived well. Most of them were well educated, the majority belonged to the middle class of the country. Christians lived mainly in large cities - Mosul, Basra and Baghdad. A Baghdad urban Christian community before the war was considered the largest in the entire Middle Eastern region.

After 2003, freedom was formally proclaimed in Iraq, including religious freedom, but in reality, the country's Constitution contains statements that prohibit the adoption of laws contrary to Islamic law (Sharia). Sharply increased religious intolerance.

After the second Lebanese war (2006 year) in Lebanon, the Shiite radical Hezbollah movement, the Christian-Maronite community, which had previously ruled the country, had lost its hegemony significantly strengthened its position. Since that time, more than 60 thousands of Christians have left the country, and according to surveys, about half of Maronite Christians are ready to leave Lebanon.

"Arab spring"

The growth of radical Islamist sentiment that has been going on since 2003, after the beginning of the disturbances in the winter and spring of 2011, in the Arab world, further complicated the situation around the Christian communities.

Conflicts of Muslims and Christians occur regularly in Egypt. Only in 2011, there were mass killings in May and October. In Egypt, for Christians, the "Iraqi scenario" began to materialize; after the fall of the Mubarak regime, which held back radical sentiments, more than 100 thousand Christians left the country, tens of thousands more were ready to leave before the end of the year. It is clear that after the victory of the Islamists in the elections, the flight will further intensify.

In Libya, the head of the Transitional National Council, Mustafa Abd-el-Jalil, said that the basis of the country's legislation will be Sharia, so the laws that contradict it will lose their force. As examples, he cited laws that allow divorce and prohibit polygamy. After a negative reaction from the EU countries, Jalis tried to soften his words, but it is clear that Libya’s policy towards Islamization will continue.

The only island of stability remained Syria, where the Assad regime (belonging to the Alawite community) created a coalition counterbalance from religious minorities against the Sunni majority. But apparently, after the start of unrest in this country, Christians came under attack, and there the leaders of the radical Islamists had already put forward the slogan of creating a clean country from the Christians.

Elections in Tunisia

October 23 in Tunisia held elections to the National Constituent Council, and they (the elections) in many respects can determine the vector of the country's movement for the near future. The moderate Islamist party “Renaissance” gained a confident victory on them, she received 39% of the votes. The second and third places were taken by the Democratic Forum for Labor and Freedoms and the Republican Congress.

Its leader Rashid Gannushi spent more than 20 years out of Tunisia in exile due to disagreement with the country's leadership. He returned to Tunisia only in January of this year, immediately after the victory of the revolution and the overthrow of President Zine el Abidine Ben Ali.

In the coming year, parliamentarians should form a new government, create a new constitution for the country, and prepare presidential and parliamentary elections. According to the president of the Institute of the Middle East, Yevgeny Satanovsky, there is no doubt about the future of Tunisia, there will gradually "be introduced Sharia."

In addition, Tunisia will be under great pressure from neighboring countries, where secular regimes were also overthrown - Egypt and Libya, which follow the path of Islamization even faster. Plus, the crisis in the EU countries, which were key partners of Tunisia. From their side there will be no serious investments, the economic situation in the country will deteriorate, foreign trade will decrease, the flow of tourists will continue to fall. And the economic crisis will further strengthen the position of the radicals. The positions of Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Turkey will be strengthened.

The time of secular regimes in North Africa and the Middle East is becoming a thing of the past, the region is in a storm zone for many years. In North Africa, only Algeria remains a rock in the raging sea, because the Moroccan king is increasingly inferior to the local Islamists and is ready to join the monarchist coalition led by the Saudis.

Therefore, if the Tunisian party “Revival” does not cope with the Islamization of the country, there is no doubt that it will be “helped” from the outside.
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  1. Vadivak 27 October 2011 09: 04 New
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    All de-Christianization began in Europe. even when the popes robbed Constantinople and then the “crusaders” wrote on bombs that bombarded the Orthodox Belgrade “Happy Easter!” to the joy of the Albanians
  2. Banshee 27 October 2011 09: 08 New
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    And, actually, what's wrong with Islam?

    Or not: what's good about Christianity?

    In my opinion, Islam differs from (modern) Christianity exclusively in that its followers BELIEVE. And Christianity degenerated tightly, turned exclusively into the collection institute of dough. Not only here, all over the world.

    It is impossible to betray that which is not.
    1. Sergh
      Sergh 27 October 2011 09: 43 New
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      Novel, yes, bad, of course, nothing, only a gross movement through weapons and the same fooling of their own Muslims began, well, not Somalia. After five years they will defeat the entire civilization that they have managed to create and will go back to the matigs. Of course, then it will be easier to take them, but they will have to be shot all at once, you can see how they are fighting in Afghanistan, Iraq, you can’t call it a war.

      And the terror will be around the world, both yours and ours. Wahhabism, in a word.
    2. go_by
      go_by 27 October 2011 10: 00 New
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      But in fact, what is good in Islam, well, except polygamy, of course?))
      If the divine love of Christ, which he contrasted with the human and pagan Talmud, is an empty phrase for you, then of course the Sharia itself.
    3. DAGESTAN333 27 October 2011 10: 18 New
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      I agree with you basically.

      Russian can not allow the extinction of Orthodox Christianity.
      1. Terry Jones
        Terry Jones 28 October 2011 13: 22 New
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        The Lord speaks truth through your mouth, even though your nickname is like that of a dog unfaithful, but the ways of the Lord are not confessed.
      2. Uncle Sam
        Uncle Sam 28 October 2011 18: 27 New
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        yes it has already died away, priests are all corrupt creatures, in each church - a price list - why
    4. Vadivak 27 October 2011 11: 07 New
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      Quote: Banshee
      Christianity degenerated tightly, turned exclusively into the institution of collecting dough.


      Explain the novel. In my opinion, no one, including anyone, is forcing you to sacrifice for the maintenance of the Temples and the maintenance of the Faith. Each true believer gives as much as he can because of his capabilities. Unbelief breeds darkness debauchery drunkenness, violence. Are you closer to the code of the builder of communism? So it is written off from the commandments.
      1. Banshee 27 October 2011 13: 56 New
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        With pleasure.
        I will try, at least, to share my vision of Islam and Orthodoxy, because I do not belong to these religions.

        Islam ... From my point of view, it’s not so much a religion as a certain code. That is, follow the rules, and you will go to heaven, if you do not follow (and even more so if you break) you can punish even in this life. More belligerent, so to speak.
        But there is an indisputable advantage over Christianity (again, IMHO) - the absence of intermediaries. as my guide to Islam said, “Why do I need a mediator between me and Allah, I, unlike you, can turn to him directly.”

        Christianity (Orthodoxy) ... You know, a little jars on the number of people walking around the city with boxes and collecting "for the repair of the temple", "for the construction of the temple", "for the maintenance of the seminary" and the like. Maybe in other cities in a different way, but here I am straining.
        Yes, no one forces, I agree. BUT, when you evaluate the number of volunteer extortionists walking around the city (otherwise the language doesn’t turn around, name it) and the quantity and quality of wheelbarrows in the diocese ... Mdja ...

        Moreover, I respect the people who go to these levies. We immediately see that they and who they are. All question only WHERE does this money go.
        If I really want to donate to something, I will go and donate. And do not poke me in this box.

        Regarding the collection of money, I was referring to the price list for services that hangs in any church. Forgive me, of course (and you can not forgive), but the overall impression is that the same prayers for health are transmitted to heaven by satellite phone with the most expensive rate.

        A friend of mine last year brought and presented several candles, consecrated by Cyril at the Easter service. I wanted to put my saint, so the servants became aware that the candles were not from their shop and were not allowed to put them. And that he managed to deliver, just extinguished.

        What kind of respect the church can talk about, if everything is again tied to the rejection of your money? Moreover, not voluntary donations, but obligatory payments. For health, for peace, for mention ... About the baptism and the wedding silent silent. Well, a lonely retiree can take on a song for nothing (and even then, would you see the face of this so-called priest ...) I had a case like that.

        Someone says that god is in heaven. Someone thinks that he is inside everyone. This is for each his own. Faith - she is in Africa Faith. Just for the Commandments to be honored by EVERYONE, it is necessary that they really be respected first and foremost by their ministers.

        Well, the character too. I don’t know how to say it correctly, but for me there is a difference between Allah Akbar and God we trust. “Allah is great” - but indeed it is really great, it can be seen from the rapidly growing Islamization of the whole world. I really don't know what the secret is. And "God is with us" ... especially this motto on green toilet paper ... You know, it seems like that. that god they have there something like a sidekick that is with them and for them. Roof, here is the correct term. Cover, forgive, justify. Unpleasant feeling. Moreover, it is recalled exactly when it is necessary to forgive and justify.

        I do not like sharia. I do not understand Muslims in everything. BUT, if people are drawn to Islam and Sharia, then they see something in it. But it must be admitted that respect for Islam cannot be compared with respect for Christianity. Therefore, Islamization causes such an attitude, that yes, in the name of faith, the people of Allah will go anywhere. And Christians? In my opinion, no.

        Quote: Vadivak
        Unbelief breeds darkness, debauchery, drunkenness, violence.


        In my opinion, what you listed gives rise not to a lack of faith, but to a lack of proper upbringing. I’m not really a believer, I don’t believe, to be honest to heaven and stuff, but that doesn’t mean that I am an adherent of darkness, drunk and a rapist, on the contrary. I do not care what will happen when I give oak, it is more important for me that I will save money here, in this life. Something like this.

        You can be a true believer, obey all church laws scum, and you can be an atheist (of which there are many), on which you can only be equal.
        1. DAGESTAN333 27 October 2011 14: 45 New
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          Banshee, you got the assessment as always - quite objectively. But I suggest judging religion by looking at people like Sergius of Radonezh. What do you think of this man?
          1. Terry Jones
            Terry Jones 28 October 2011 13: 26 New
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            Judge not lest ye be judged
            1. Uncle Sam
              Uncle Sam 28 October 2011 18: 42 New
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              what for the gon? atheists - go ahead! religion - opium for the people!
              Uh, potrezoty, but don’t deny the priest, have you been afraid of God, is it the same ...
          2. Banshee 28 October 2011 13: 51 New
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            I read about him ten minutes ago in Vick ... well, at least, I deserve respect for his work. Not pop, definitely. Priest.

            In general, judging about religion is not very business ... I do not know how to say it correctly. The man does not really choose her, baptized (or, like Muslims, I do not know) at a fairly early age. winked And then change ... well, I do not know, somehow not very. It seems to betray the faith of ancestors ...

            In general, they say: "adopted Christianity" or "adopted Islam." What is closer to you (or rather what is closer to your soul) is what you accept. Someone from the ancients said that "everyone has their own way to God." Therefore, it is probably not worth judging anyway about religion. Who are we to judge? Express your opinion, nothing more.
            1. Uncle Sam
              Uncle Sam 29 October 2011 20: 47 New
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              what to minus that ssys?
        2. Vadivak 27 October 2011 16: 34 New
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          Quote: Banshee
          Christianity (Orthodoxy) ... You know, a little jars on the number of people walking around the city with boxes and collecting "for the repair of the temple", "for the construction of the temple", "for the maintenance of the seminary" and the like. Maybe in other cities in a different way, but here I am straining.


          This is a scam for suckers. Not a single temple, let alone a seminary, will send its employees to fight.

          Regarding the collection of money, I was referring to the price list for services that hangs in any church. Forgive me, of course (and you can not forgive), but the overall impression is that the same prayers for health are transmitted to heaven by satellite phone with the most expensive rate.

          I repeat this is your personal business, you can ask the Lord for your prayers


          Banshee,
          Someone says that god is in heaven. Someone thinks that he is inside everyone. This is for each his own. Faith - she is in Africa Faith. Just for the Commandments to be honored by EVERYONE, it is necessary that they really be respected first and foremost by their ministers.

          Spielberg treats Chekhov in his own way, Viktiuk in his own way. Will not work.

          "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, has everlasting life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life" (John 5, 24).

          And the monk is the one who alone prays for the whole world. For you as well. Do not say that you did not ask him about it. He just prays and all is not for himself, notice and understand not for myself

          What do you priests? Start with yourself and everything will fall into place
          1. Terry Jones
            Terry Jones 28 October 2011 13: 27 New
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            In truth, my son, one must turn to God directly, without giving in robes
          2. Banshee 28 October 2011 13: 37 New
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            Quote: Vadivak
            Start with yourself and everything will fall into place


            Here with it at me an order, I return the misguided. Not grazing, by no means.

            Quote: Vadivak
            Not a single temple, much less a seminary, will send its servants to beg.


            Perhaps, but dozens of pretty handsome women with baskets, PRINTED BY THE DIOCESE PRINTING (curious, yes) on the streets have a place to be. Do not believe - call in, check. I have absolutely no reason to lie.

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            I repeat this is your personal business, you can ask the Lord for your prayers


            I request. But this once again confirms my words that a mediator is not always needed.

            Quote: Vadivak
            Spielberg treats Chekhov in his own way, Viktiuk in his own way. Will not work.


            Why? I also treat Chekhov in my own way.

            Quote: Vadivak
            "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, has everlasting life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life" (John 5, 24).


            You know, I'm not strong in this, I will not argue. I know only that this business burned out only once. Yes, and then the controversial issue so far. Only the farther, the more difficult it is to believe. Yes, I'm not the best son of the church, it is.

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            What do you priests?


            Absolutely nothing. The nearest 550 km. And looking at the representatives of the Russian Orthodox Church in Voronezh, I do not feel positive. Indeed, shepherds who care only about haircuts ... Priests, in one word. Although Kirill (when he was not in charge yet) listened on TV with great pleasure on Sundays. Beautiful speech, good words. Verily, priest.
            1. Uncle Sam
              Uncle Sam 28 October 2011 18: 32 New
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              in kind dude, priests only stuff a pocket
        3. Uhalus 27 October 2011 23: 46 New
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          I do not agree with the respected Banshee. As for the organization for pumping money, he’s absolutely right, but here are the people ... And "Allahu akbar" became the cry of a killer, cutting off the head of a prisoner. "In God We Trust" ("In one God") in this somehow not seen.
          And in the latter - regarding people - I completely agree. I spoke about PEOPLE above.
          1. Banshee 28 October 2011 13: 12 New
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            Quote: Uhalus
            "In God We Trust" ("In God are One") this is somehow not seen.


            I will not argue. But in the former Yugoslavia (Panama, Grenada, Vietnam, Korea, Libya, Iraq) I think there would be those who would like to.
            1. Terry Jones
              Terry Jones 28 October 2011 13: 29 New
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              The Lord spits on you, son of a dog, through my lips.
          2. Terry Jones
            Terry Jones 28 October 2011 13: 28 New
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            In the case, cormorant, my son.
        4. Terry Jones
          Terry Jones 28 October 2011 13: 25 New
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          What you write, the son of a dog, has a place to be with the Orthodox, but this is not possible in a true Christian church, the rest is your words from the evil one, you burn in hell fire, a wretched dog
        5. Uncle Sam
          Uncle Sam 28 October 2011 18: 30 New
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          you're right about something, and many musliks also suffer from crap
          normal are atheists
      2. Zerkalo 27 October 2011 20: 16 New
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        But this is why in Islamic countries they do not drink, there is respect for old people, and yes. I'm sorry, religious people can communicate directly with their god, rather than in Orthodoxy, where there is some mediator who calls me his father, and all of us are a "flock", that is, a flock.

        Why can not the Orthodox Church stop the chaos that is happening now? Yes, they don’t even make a sound when they see that "... the Russian Manki and Vanka are jumping in dressing gowns with shaved turtles." Honestly, it’s disgusting for me to see a bell-shaped bearded man talking about the benefits of fasting ...

        There are many more reasons. I do not consider the Orthodox faith to be bad or good, I just want to say that what we have now in our country under the name Orthodoxy is unacceptable! And if you don’t change anything, then religion itself will decrease many times in a couple of decades and our country will be not a third Muslim, but much more.
        1. Banshee 28 October 2011 14: 09 New
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          Quote: Zerkalo
          But this is why in Islamic countries they do not drink, there is respect for old people, and yes. I'm sorry, religious people can communicate directly with their god, rather than in Orthodoxy, where there is some mediator who calls me his father, and all of us are a "flock", that is, a flock.


          On the other hand, it is impossible not to notice that there is respect for old people ... but not all. No offense to Muslims, but "throwing" a gyaura is at a time. I have. That is, their correctness / righteousness, it is exclusively in relation to her. And if you're of a different faith, I'm sorry ...
          Alcohol ... in the Quran it is said unequivocally: "Do not drink the wine of the vine." so that beer and vodka consumed for all the sadness. Not all, of course, but the vast majority. In Russia, I mean, as in the Emirates, I do not know.

          Quote: Zerkalo
          Why the Orthodox Church can not stop the chaos that is happening now?


          Well, she does not have to do this, as it were. By our law, the church is separated from the state; accordingly, it cannot substitute state institutions. To carry the word to those who came after him, to guide him on the right path, yes, but no more. Another question is that they are not good at it, because it’s one thing to “carry the word to the masses” and quite another to broadcast it exclusively to those who came for it. Feel the difference.

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          what we have now in our country called Orthodoxy is unacceptable!


          Well, if it exists, then it is permissible. and the ROC itself is permissible. So they are all happy.

          As a matter of fact, the church is now reaping the fruits of its ... removal or something. No one would ever think to go to the church for advice or resolution of a dispute. But in other places somewhat different. where, if anything, are Muslims going? That's right, for the elders or for the muftis / mullahs. So historically. And so in many religions. But the Orthodox are very far away. Therefore, they lose their positions.
        2. Uncle Sam
          Uncle Sam 28 October 2011 18: 35 New
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          oh well, they thump like that, and finally love the grass and litter, but in Turkey I saw it myself, my friends specially prompted me to board from Iran, from there women - all without muzzles (burqa) fell down, they take them off in an airplane, to Turkey come off fly
    5. Anatoly
      Anatoly 27 October 2011 13: 57 New
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      Communicated a lot with Muslims. I would not say that this is faith ... rather, it is difficult to contain fanaticism.
      1. Uhalus 27 October 2011 23: 49 New
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        That's it. How about parenting ... fanatics?
      2. Terry Jones
        Terry Jones 28 October 2011 13: 29 New
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        Damn them and their seed forever and ever. Amen.
    6. Uhalus 27 October 2011 23: 38 New
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      Yes, and Christians BELIEVE or right - BELIEVE. This is not about an organization called "church", but about people. Only Christians, with all their wild superstitions (I know what I'm talking about, worked as an employee at the temple), nevertheless, are somehow kinder, more constructive than Muslims. Muslims are good, while they are in the minority, and as they accumulate - so here you go: jizya, or even some kind of ghazavat. Do we need it? In addition: Christians oppose science, some modern things ... But they do not try to destroy everything that they do not like, unlike Muslims. If Christians are the late Middle Ages in their level, then Islam is complete savagery. Do not agree? - I do not argue, you know better. But you look at the affairs of both. Not the old ones, everyone was good there. On modern. Have you seen many times that Christians now chopped their heads? And if you choose, then I prefer Christianity.
      In general, the country disappeared.
      And again, I with my favorite topic: it all started after democracy from the trunks of M-16 ...
      1. Terry Jones
        Terry Jones 28 October 2011 13: 31 New
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        My son, believe on our Lord, and grace will fall on you.
      2. Banshee 28 October 2011 14: 16 New
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        Quote: Uhalus
        again I am with my favorite topic: everything started after democracy from the M-16 trunks ...


        Apparently, this egg often appears before the chicken.

        Quote: Uhalus
        Only Christians, for all their wild superstitions (I know what I am talking about, worked as a servant at the temple) are nevertheless somehow kinder, more constructive than Muslims.


        Definitely.

        Quote: Uhalus
        Have you seen many occasions that Christians are now chopping their heads?


        Well, to be honest, in many situations it would be nice to chop / cut it off. And not necessarily the head ... You will cut one (well, this is not a mat, gentlemen admins, really !!!) - 100 will think about it. especially if you cut off some pedophile from among the workers of the orphanage. Or a hand to the teacher-scuffle from kindergarten. You look, and the order would popribavilos ...

        So yes, I agree, Christianity is not such an aggressive environment now. But there is something to adopt from the neighbors.
    7. Terry Jones
      Terry Jones 28 October 2011 13: 20 New
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      May the almighty Lord punish you the unfaithful dog, may he incinerate the unfaithful, Amen.
    8. Uncle Sam
      Uncle Sam 28 October 2011 18: 26 New
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      and what is good in Islam? the religion of goats and rams
  3. Professor 27 October 2011 10: 05 New
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    Interestingly, the most important factor in reducing the proportion of Christians in the population of the Middle East region was the war in Iraq, which was unleashed by the United States and NATO.

    The author is cunning. The war in Iraq, as we know, began in 1991, but the problems of the Christians of the Middle East began much earlier. The civil war in Lebanon in the 70 years is especially indicative. On the one hand, Christians, on the other, Muslims, moreover Sunnis and Shiites.

    And, actually, what's wrong with Islam?

    In theory, nothing wrong. "Islam" in translation means peace. However, in practice, where there is Islam there is war and collapse. And from North Africa, Europe to Southeast Asia.
    1. DAGESTAN333 27 October 2011 10: 29 New
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      And in my opinion, Islam has been competently discredited for several centuries. For example: they created a Wahhabi movement in the 18th century.
      1. datur 27 October 2011 14: 00 New
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        DAGESTAN333but Muslims themselves created it! or not,?
        1. DAGESTAN333 27 October 2011 14: 29 New
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          Not supposed to. They created external forces, represented by the intelligence services of the British Empire. So we will not have unity, which is dangerous for them.
          1. Uhalus 27 October 2011 23: 54 New
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            The intelligence services of Britain in the 18th century ... How could they create Wahhabism when, more or less decently speaking local dialects appeared only thanks to the works of Sir Alexander Woodstock closer to the middle of the 19th century ?? To recruit a spy or agent of influence of a good level, you must at least know his language ...
            And Muslims did not have unity before. Shiites and Sunnis did not like each other sharply at all times, up to the use of weapons. The only place in the world of peace is Mecca, and even then with some stretch.
      2. Terry Jones
        Terry Jones 28 October 2011 13: 32 New
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        Son of a dog, curse your mouth, and sorrows and tribulations will fall on your family.
  4. mitrich
    mitrich 27 October 2011 10: 50 New
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    The main dirty trick in the Islamic world is Saudi Arabia, where warlike Salafism (in our Wahhabism) is the state religion. Possessing the main Islamic shrines on their territory in Mecca and Medina and holding the West by the Kukan with their oil fields, these camel warriors bring confusion to the heads of Muslims around the world, sponsor radical terrorists, recruiting them from among the pilgrims. That's where the main infection and the hornet's nest are. If memory serves, out of 21 terrorists who committed terrorist attacks in the USA, almost 20 come from Saudi Arabia (I don’t remember exactly, but the order of numbers is approximately the same).
    I already wrote, at the risk of incurring the wrath of my Muslim faith colleagues, that it’s time for Russia to stop two things:
    - Hajj to Saudi Arabia by citizens of the Russian Federation;
    - training mullahs in educational institutions abroad.
    Practice shows that this does not lead to anything good, it only increases the number of forest species. It looks, of course, like the proverb "cut down wood, chips fly," but what to do repeat ?
    1. LESHA pancake
      LESHA pancake 28 October 2011 14: 58 New
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      NOT UNKNOWN BLACK ARAB -HOTTAB ALSO SOMETHING FROM SAUDI ARABIA SOMETHING BLOOD SPILLED IN THE CZECH WAR.
      1. svvaulsh
        svvaulsh 28 October 2011 15: 14 New
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        In fact, he is Jordanian, although this does not change anything.
  5. EVIL 27 October 2011 11: 06 New
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    Wahhabis:
    - who
    - what,
    - what for.

    http://www.pravoslavie.ru/analit/global/vah.htm
  6. SIA
    SIA 27 October 2011 11: 52 New
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    Catholicism + Islamism = an explosive mixture of terrorism throughout the Earth.
  7. dred
    dred 27 October 2011 13: 00 New
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    mitrich,
    With figs to forbid Hajj you are the navel of the earth. Secondly, why can’t you study for the Mantle of the Ganitsa? Again, the question is, are you a nationalist? I am a Muslim by faith, and that someone is against it. In addition, there are all kinds of groups that are aggressive and there are ordinary ones that is, loyal to all other beliefs.
    1. mitrich
      mitrich 27 October 2011 13: 16 New
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      dred,
      I am not against Islam. Lay out the rug, pray as much as you like. This is the first.
      Secondly, I wrote this because there are reasons to believe that during the pilgrimage and training at the madrasah, various bad people from among those who like to blow up trains in the subway and seize theaters and schools recruit and train their supporters and followers.
      Thirdly, my best friend is a Muslim by religion and a Tatar by nationality. And we are both nationalists, but not Russian, but Russian, is there a difference?
    2. Banshee 27 October 2011 14: 04 New
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      Quote: dred
      Again, you are asked a nationalist question?


      And where does nationalism, when it comes to religion?

      Quote: dred
      I am a Muslim by faith confession and that someone is against it.

      Quote: dred
      and there are the usual, that is loyal to all other beliefs.


      Yes, the fact of the matter is that no one has anything against this question. Here the whole question is in the accents. It’s not a fact that aggressive-minded people listen to specially prepared muftis. But not to prove otherwise.
      Hajj prohibit, of course, washed away. This is a historically established action. Moreover, when they told me how people used to make it, here you unwittingly deceive the approach to this. Now it's just, I got on a plane - and here you have a pilgrimage.
      The teaching of mullahs abroad ... is debatable here. On the one hand, why not? Still, the origins of Islam there, respectively, and the level of preparation is also ambiguous. On the other hand, what is the best training there? And what is taught there? And why can not we teach at the same level? Not the first day she was married, in general.

      Another question is, WHO should be allowed to study in foreign religious institutions, and who should not. This issue must be treated more carefully.
      1. mitrich
        mitrich 27 October 2011 14: 35 New
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        Banshee,
        if someone from Vympel goes to Cairo University to study, why not?
        1. Banshee 28 October 2011 14: 19 New
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          "Vympel" means special forces? And why should they?
    3. Terry Jones
      Terry Jones 28 October 2011 13: 34 New
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      May the earth be opened beneath your hand, may your seed be cursed
  8. Marmon 27 October 2011 16: 31 New
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    Islamization in the Middle East can and does happen because the majority of Arabs see this panacea from all troubles, but in reality it will be thrown off in the Middle Ages, but in the rest of the world, everything happens and everything that Islamic sites write is a lie example South Africa Korea China Iran for example http://www.regions.ru/news/2377342/ Islam is a way of life that leads people to nowhere, and Christianity, Judaism and Buddhism belong to all the achievements of mankind
  9. Zerkalo 27 October 2011 20: 25 New
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    Dear, if I am not mistaken, then in 988 all Russians were forcibly driven into the water and there they were baptized who did not want to renounce their faith - they were called pagans and burned. In history, this is silent, for another hundred years there has been a struggle between Orthodoxy and paganism. And how does this situation in the Middle East differ from that? There will be a new religion in the world (which, incidentally, is not so bad). Why am I speaking in the world? Yes, because if nothing is done, then the bearers of Islam will soon have a majority in any country, and there, according to democratic election laws, they will choose their candidate and ... An example of Serbia and Albania in person.
    1. lightforcer
      lightforcer 27 October 2011 21: 27 New
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      There are no Islamic parties in Albania, and Serbs are generally Orthodox.
      1. datur 27 October 2011 22: 11 New
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        lightforcerbut the Albanians are all Muslims
        1. zczczc
          zczczc 28 October 2011 00: 14 New
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          datur, that's why there are no Islamic parties - there is no one to shade from.
      2. Terry Jones
        Terry Jones 28 October 2011 13: 35 New
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        You are mistaken, my son, the Albanians are the same Serbs, only mired in false doctrine (Islam)
        1. Uncle Sam
          Uncle Sam 28 October 2011 18: 43 New
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          goats they are uniquely
    2. zczczc
      zczczc 28 October 2011 00: 13 New
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      Zerkalo, and where does the new religion? God forbid we still have religions! Carriers of Islam are very specific peoples, they have an extremely high birth rate, and we have an extremely low one. Will it be easier for you that in Germany the Islamic majority and the Christian minority will abandon their religions in favor of some third?
      I am generally against new religions that have no roots in peoples. Any new religions should be the development of the original religions of these peoples.
  10. zczczc
    zczczc 28 October 2011 00: 08 New
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    What surprises you? Jews gave the nations of the world two nuclear bombs - Christianity and Islam. In the Middle Ages, Christians were mostly "bombing", now Muslims. It was not necessary to take bombs into service.
    1. DAGESTAN333 28 October 2011 08: 20 New
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      zczczc, small inaccuracy - Islam arose among the Arabs. But all the prophets before that were Israeli.
      1. Terry Jones
        Terry Jones 28 October 2011 13: 37 New
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        You lie, the dog is unfaithful, open the Holy Scripture, and may the Lord Almighty be with you.
        1. Uncle Sam
          Uncle Sam 28 October 2011 18: 43 New
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          yeah, awake, wait
  11. zol
    zol 28 October 2011 12: 41 New
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    The author is a little thickened, although he seems to write that as a result of NATO actions, there is a decrease in the number of Christians in the Middle East. In fact, one of the main factors is an increase in Muslims and a decrease in Christians in the Middle East and not only because of the traditionally high birth rate among the Muslim population and low birth rate among the Christian. And radicalism certainly does occur, but its scale is greatly exaggerated.
  12. zol
    zol 28 October 2011 13: 07 New
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    In my opinion, the Islamic world is awakening from centuries of hibernation, but this process is painful and distorted, and there is an attempt to curb this process with certain forces that are not interested in the emergence of a strong and united Muslim world. Therefore, we see the massive interference of the West in the internal affairs of Islamic states.
    1. Terry Jones
      Terry Jones 28 October 2011 13: 39 New
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      You are able to see, my son, lean on the teachings of our Lord, and may your awareness draw near to Truth.
      1. Uncle Sam
        Uncle Sam 28 October 2011 18: 38 New
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        what truth damn it? pop you bullied everyone
  13. Banshee 28 October 2011 14: 39 New
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    Vasya Terry Jones ... "The monster has flown around, stozevno and bark ..."

    And who just does not throw out of the darkness of the Internet on the shores of our ...
    Ishsho one who knew the truth and the essence of things ...

    By the way, comparing me with a dog in no way offends me. The smartest animal. Especially in comparison with some representatives of Homo Erectus (om call Sapiens hand does not rise).

    Quote: Terry Jones
    My son, believe on our Lord, and grace will fall on you.


    And what is yours? By the way, it is spelled correctly. And so, through the reverse is obtained.
    1. DAGESTAN333 28 October 2011 14: 50 New
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      .......... but in fact, the clinic probably already caught on, and Terry is looking ...
      1. svvaulsh
        svvaulsh 28 October 2011 15: 05 New
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        Beautifully both wrote! Throws a lot of garbage, especially if the clinic is located on the coast. +100 to both!
        1. Uncle Sam
          Uncle Sam 28 October 2011 18: 44 New
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          exactly both clowns from the same clinic
      2. Uncle Sam
        Uncle Sam 29 October 2011 20: 51 New
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        they’re looking for you to stick or insert