German newspaper: Kiev is not interested in their own dead soldiers

The German newspaper Die Zeit has published material that says that after the beginning of the military conflict in the east of Ukraine, volunteers have to solve many questions that really should fall on the shoulders of the state.

Thus, the search and removal of the bodies of the dead soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine carries out the Black Tulip voluntary humanitarian mission. However, the volunteers did not receive any support from the state, so they had to stop working due to lack of funds. As a result, the relatives of the missing soldiers lost their last hope to know their fate.

In addition, the newspaper notes, such organizations help to obtain more accurate data on the number of victims. However, according to the authors of the material, Kiev does not need them.

“Perhaps this is cynicism generated by helplessness. Why bother about the dead when the state cannot even take care of the living, ”quotes an excerpt from the RIA article "News".

The article notes that the Kiev authorities do not allocate funds at all for the return of the remains of the dead soldiers. Meanwhile, only according to official data, 1330 people are considered missing, although in reality these figures can be much higher.

Comments

[domokl]

I want to believe that it began to reach. Only here it is doubtful all the same.
But still, such articles are important. Open your eyes to the average European

[maxcor1974]

It's simple: Kiev does not pay debts on Eurobonds. So such articles began to appear, and French parliamentarians reached out to Crimea.

[vkl-47]

The worst thing for the fallen is the nameless grave

[Meh-forester]

Quote: vkl-47

The worst thing for the fallen is the nameless grave

No less terrible for relatives and friends is not to know the fate of their son.

[Yuri from Volgograd]

Quote: vkl-47

The worst thing for the fallen is the nameless grave

The worst thing is the loss of the breadwinner and father.
At this age you do not live for yourself.

[just exp]

if it’s about kaklov, then no. the cesspool is the place for them.

[kotvov]

if it’s about kaklov, then no. the cesspool is the place for them. ,,
in vain you are so, do not become like ukra.

[just exp]

Svidomit people consider a big mistake, and it is the sad fate of the predecessors that may stop the dumb little heads in the future. Germany is not much puffed up to fight with Russia. but there are dumb ones, they like to ride, and they need a rake to understand the obvious.

[Roman 57 rus]

The war is not over until the last soldier is buried ....

[Reserve officer]

Kiev would only be interested in their own dead soldiers if the EU paid compensation for them. Then, the numbers would be over the top and would exceed the total male population of the country.

[siberalt]

So who needs to report on the extent of recycling? The process goes on for the second year.

Already the seventh such wave has gone.

[veksha50]

Quote: domokl

anyway, such articles are important. Open your eyes to the average European

And when such data will open the head of the layman Ukrainian ???

Otherwise, they give the president and the government just because their sons are poorly provided during the deadly civil war, cynically called the ATO ... Little ammunition, poor uniforms and food ... that's the whole protest, or rather, the meaning of this "protest" ...

[Mik-51]

Quote: veksha50

Quote: domokl

anyway, such articles are important. Open your eyes to the average European

And when such data will open the head of the layman Ukrainian ???

Otherwise, they give the president and the government just because their sons are poorly provided during the deadly civil war, cynically called the ATO ... Little ammunition, poor uniforms and food ... that's the whole protest, or rather, the meaning of this "protest" ...

Here, it seems to me, Russia is underdeveloping again.
Who is stopping to instruct repeaters (it’s not so expensive) at the borders with, at least, the southeastern regions of Ukraine, to ensure the reception of terrestrial television and radio signals from Russia?
I well remember the destructive activities of the western radio stations in the 60-90s. A very effective tool.
Now the technical capabilities are much wider.
But no ... for some reason this is not done ...

[APASUS]

Quote: veksha50

And when such data will open the head of the layman Ukrainian ???

How can they open the eyes of the layman when they become worse than separs for power? They reveal a terrible secret, about which the authorities are trying so hard to forget and shut up.

[Stalker.1977]

This is cynicism and nonsense, except for their pockets and how to stay at the trough they are generally not able to think about anything.

[Meh-forester]

Quote: Stalker.1977

This is cynicism and indifference

As well as the calculation. The names of such "disappeared" are included in the lists of those who are in captivity. And if they are not extradited by the authorities of the People's Republics, then guess who will be accused of their death?
Even the tragedy of their people, they can turn for their own benefit ...

[rotmistr60]

Perhaps this is cynicism generated by helplessness

There is not only the helplessness of the Ukrainian state, but the disregard of the leadership of this still state (with 2-3 citizenships) towards those who are sent to slaughter. And of course, attempts to hide the real losses of "the most powerful army in Europe."

[Barboskin]

What care, let them rejoice if a missing or deceased relative in general receives the status of a soldier of the deceased in the ATO zone. Maybe the children will have to blush for the fact that their dad is a deserter.

[atamankko]

Even the bandits have more conscience than the junta.

[tol100v]

Why worry about the dead? They just took it and recorded it in demobilization! Moreover, the Eternal!

[Alex_Rarog]

Yes, there are living and then nafig are not needed.
Maximum dissolve the organs ....

[jjj]

So the western man in the street begins to actively introduce into the real course of affairs understandable provisions. Report the real scale of the dead

[ia-ai00]

The bandits are in power. And when did the bandits take care of their dead? They will also "help" the wounded to escape to the next world.

[klavyr]

Kiev authorities do not allocate funds to return the remains of dead soldiers

but allocate funds for the purchase of mobile crematoria

As a result, the relatives of the missing soldiers lost their last hope of knowing their fate.

[Revolver]

Why worry about the dead when the state cannot even take care of the living? ”

Moreover, the family has to pay for the dead (well, kagbe, if by law). And for a missing person is not necessary. Like the late former first secretary of the Dnipropetrovsk regional committee, Brezhnev, said: "The economy should be economical."

[Drmadfisher]

all this is sad, but the mother should know where her son is buried, even if he urod

[Gor-1974]

Like all these Western faces, they deftly know how to shift the blame onto another. Kiev is to blame, the whole city, I understand they can’t call themselves, but you can at least say Poroshenko.

[Hyppopotut]

When the people of Ukraine will see the light ???

[Dima Čalevo]

It seems like never. Even if they have no work or food left, they will still say at their last breath - "Damned Putin! .."

[splinter666]

Five to seven years later, hunger and cold eyes open.

[just exp]

eat off and take over the old. they are incorrigible. they were like that under the tsar and under the USSR. and now they are the same.

[just exp]

if someone has stupefied to such an extent that he does not understand that America cannot be a friend, if he forgot his story, then such a person is a fool. but it cannot grow wiser, because if there are no brains, then they cannot appear, it is not a cancerous tumor, they appear at birth, and if they were not at birth, then there is nowhere for them to appear.
the only thing is that if a new shepherd sings a new song to them. but that is only until another shepherd comes. then they will start singing a new song again. in general, I would not trust this kagal at all. even after winning. for me svidomites are like lepers, and they will never become former "Bandera" for me, it's like with roosters, if the body is a cock, then he is a cock for the rest of his life, even if he stopped using fart for other purposes.

[made13]

The dead are very interested in some representatives of ukrovlasti - especially the organs. And greed does not allow to recognize the number of victims - it is cheaper to keep the dead missing, or even to declare traitors and deserters.

[Stoler]

Such articles in the West is a drop of honey in a sea of ​​crap.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

The junta tribunal is crying .. How many people have been ruined (heavenly hundred and Natsik are not included in this list).

[YaMZ-238]

Only foreign newspapers notice everything that is happening, and politicians like they don’t see or hear ... sad!

[Vladimir71]

For the leadership of Usraina, the people are manure and the ability to fertilize manure, and wherever it is not important and God forbid this "people" of Usrainy understand what it really is for them.

[solovey]

And the leadership is Ukrainian. nothing interests anything but money !!!!

[tomsk]

Poroshenko has already announced the mobilization of 16-year-olds ..!

[drunkram]

Many volunteers were not even given the status of a soldier, what can we say there is interest in some kind of victims.

[tomsk]

I had a girl Les from the white church! how good that I did not leave with her in the 80s to visit her in Ukraine ..! or maybe in vain that I didn’t leave because I firmly know that I would be in the ranks of the defenders of the Donbass now. I once knew 2 pigs (immigrants from the USSR) but a third one appeared ..! but with their gilts !!!

[tomsk]

look at this labeled Misha (Gorbachev) ... pissing goat to Russia to come. knows that they will tear him here! and I ate my face so that it doesn’t fit into a telly. there is not enough screen format !!!

[tomsk]

our president is well done !!! that's just who will replace him in the next election ..?! God forbid there will be a likeness of the previous 2 pigs-g and e. One word-shit !!!

[Mik-51]

Quote: Tomsk

our president is well done !!! that's just who will replace him in the next election ..?! God forbid there will be a likeness of the previous 2 pigs-g and e. One word-shit !!!

Here you are wrong ...
It’s not for nothing that Putin, the locum tenens, promoted the man of his team for 4 years.
The locum tenens did some unpopular things, and one - very necessary - removed Kudrin from his post.
Over the same 4 years, an amendment was passed on a 6-year presidential term ...
And - op la la:
- Putin has 2 presidential terms - until the 24th year!
Does anyone really have doubts - who will be elected in the 18th year ????

(I have a crystal dream - to live up to this 24th year and see the result of the work of V.V. Putin ...
I can’t hold out, 21 operations, my leg - I can’t cut it off 10 years ago ...
I may not live ... But I really want to )

[tomsk]

I wonder why a labeled Misha doesn’t arrive at home in Russia ?!

[Anchonsha]

Yes, it seems that the population of the western and central parts of Ukraine does not care what happens to their sons in the so-called anti-terrorist operation zone. They are still jumping in their Russophobic euphoria, but do not see dramatic changes in the Old World in connection with the events in the Donbass and in the Ruin itself. Ukrainians need the United States to confront Russia, but as a state, nobody is interested.

[ivan bogomolov]

Kiev is not interested in its living people, and the more so dead.

[Wolka]

here it is curious why the western regions of dill are still silent, people were crushed into a salad most of all those called up to the ATO from these regions ...

[Bedrovich]

It is sad that they are living people, and even sadder that they are being driven to slaughter like cattle and it does not matter who is of what nationality. It is more interesting to read articles about new achievements, and here the ongoing war.

[unsinkable]

This * state * (if IT can be called a state, since in fact it is a colony), which is headed by outright fascists and CIA agents, by definition, does not care about the living or the dead. The people use them as supplies for achieving their goals.

[Andrey VOV]

It is beneficial for the junta that the dead are listed as missing, because there is a critical limit for the arrival of coffins and it can simply break through and their own will sweep them away ... and they are well-known "brave men", as Yarosh conducted an action in Kiev, so they hit the road in every direction .. .beasts and rats are disgusting ... and in the fields after Ilovaisk, Izvarin a myriad of bones and graves and pits ...

[svp67]

I spied on Sharia, here is such news from the ATO headquarters dated July 15, 2015:

Over the past day, as a result of hostilities, 8 Ukrainian servicemen were killed, 16 were injured. In particular, 5 Ukrainian servicemen were killed in the course of fulfilling the tasks of checking the reliability of mine fortifications near the Russian-Ukrainian border in the Stanichno-Lugansk region.

Checked for sure there is ...
http://www.donbass-info.com/content/view/22653/22664/
But there are such clarifications:

Today, the headquarters officer of the 11th territorial defense battalion of the People's Militia Corps of the LPR denied the statement of the ex-head of the so-called "military-civil administration of the Luhansk region" about the clash of the Kiev security forces with the DRG LPR, allegedly, as a result of which five servicemen of the 128th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were killed, reports "Lugansk online".
According to the expert, the Armed Forces military personnel died as a result of an error when clearing their own landmine.
Literally: "In the area of ​​N of the item Bolotennaya, located on the opposite side of us from the Seversky Donets and under the control of the Kiev security forces, was an attempt to mine a land mine previously laid by the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
The major took four troops with him and tried to clear the landmine. There was an unauthorized explosion, all died. Both the demolition itself and the fact that all those involved in mine clearance died indicate a lack of appropriate qualifications and non-compliance with safety rules when conducting mine clearance operations. ”
Recall, some media previously reported that on July 14 in the area with. Bolotennoy of the Stanichno-Lugansk region allegedly there was a clash of armed forces with the DRG, which came from the LPR. As a result, five soldiers of the 128th brigade from Transcarpathia aged 23 to 45 years were killed.

For fun, look at the map where the village of Bolotnoye and where the border line with the Russian Federation. They lie, they lie and they lie again ...