New Weapon for Sea Seals USA

"Sea Fur Seals" - US Marine Special Forces - constantly equip the most intricate types weapons and devices for effective combat. Here are just some of those that are in service with the Navy SEAL, see firearms catalog.

Combat knife 150BKSN Marc Lee "Glory"

This knife is dedicated to Mark Alan Lee, the first of the American "seals" who died in Iraq. The 154 millimeter blade made of heavy-duty stainless steel sits on a brown corrugated handle, very comfortable for the hand.

LaRue Assault Rifle

The LaRue 7.62 caliber mm rifle has excellent parameters for carrying out the most difficult special operations: the weight is just over 4 kilograms, striking the 1100 distance, meters, a special device for withdrawing gases from the special forces person after firing, alternating trunks of different lengths. An improved barrel ventilation system prevents the rifle from overheating during intense combat.

Also, using advanced technologies, the newest accessories for the M4 submachine gun have been developed, which increase convenience when shooting.

Build "all in one"

This is not a child's toy at all. All US military personnel in Iraq or Afghanistan use the Gerber Multi-Plier 600 fixture. This gadget helps the soldier and the officer to conduct combat operations with maximum efficiency. It is difficult to enumerate all the operations that are subject to the "mites", starting with snacking on simple barbed wire and ending with the decontamination of cunning explosive devices.

Radio and human skull

"Kittens" need modern and powerful means of communication no less than in reliable weapons. For US special forces, a fundamentally new device has been developed, which, unlike the old ones, communicates not through the ear canal, but through ... the bones of the skull. The incoming signal is fed to the audio transducer, which is fixed near the ear, and then through the facial bone is fed into the inner ear of a person.

Multidisciplinary computer

The electronic modulated tactical system MTS C4ISTAR allows the operator to very quickly remove data from the computer and immediately go to the fighting. It only takes a few seconds. It is possible to work with it both during a sandstorm, and in a torrential rain. Special protection will not allow the enemy to electronically fix the location of the computer and the operator. But she may need computer help.

Finally, the uniform

The special Arc'teryx jumpsuit is named after an ancient flying reptile. It is designed in such a way that the cat, who has put it on, can perform a variety of combat missions.

Comments

[Ion coaelung]

Beautiful, but functional? The feeling that more designers than engineers work in the US military-industrial complex.

[Tjumenec72]

They have designers and engineers in place, and these rattles are more than once tested in real conditions.
Money is allocated more (they steal no less as a percentage, it looks like the current is different, therefore there is enough left for the army) and they fight regularly.
BUT in my opinion it is more likely for a movie, painfully ingenious contraption.
A well and properly trained fighter is expensive, much more expensive than these things.
For it is not the weapon that determines the outcome, but the man. Weapons are tools that complement professional skills.

A group of poetsanchigov will fully work out this team with “calculators”

[Joker]

What are you based on when you say this?
I think that in the photo a normal discharge would not hurt, and I think they would not refuse multitool.

[Tjumenec72]

I'm not talking about clothes, but about the one who is in it)
Then, from the defeated adversary, he “mocks” if something is missing in uniform)
Americans teach their fighters to rely very heavily on trinkets - this is already a thingism (this is the basis for the uniform business for them). Should be minimally enough.

Joker - I suppose you are a hunter, and of those who invest heavily in trinkets: - a lot of blame, a collimator, a lump, GPS, etc. And the result is not higher than that of a grandfather with an old shotgun. Of course, the main “pleasure” of the process (this is the Pindos).

[Joker]

If we compare the hunter with trinkets and the grandfather with a double-barreled shotgun, the result will be of course approximately the same, the grandfather will lag behind a little bit because the grandfather cannot look through his glasses like through a thermal imager, and the grandfather will not deliver micro-video cameras. BUT, a US soldier is a grandfather with trinkets. You must admit that Americans have much more military experience than our soldiers who fought for the last time for a long time. And they are trained better than ours, they are studying there, rather than marching and peeling potatoes, which takes our soldier 90% of his training time. I think our specialists would not refuse if their experience was supported by even the latest technologies and modern weapons. The Bertsa are not Russian-made in the photo and almost do not have knee pads. These are trifles of course, but what kind of bonus do they give during special operations, right? When you have comfortable clothes, convenient and thoughtful unloading, walkie-talkies with active headphones for everyone, it seems to me that this increases the chances of completing the task, because the human ear can not hear what microphones in active headphones hear, clothes made of quick-drying materials will allow you to be less distracted, knee pads let you fall on broken glass fragments and on a hard surface. I don’t tell everyone to carry a computer with them, but there should be one person on 10, as in some situations it will save the lives of these soldiers, for example by warning them that they are surrounded. Walkie-talkies will allow you to coordinate the actions of fighters in the group, will provide important information. Look at the AK with which our specialists go, they are all equipped with handles for transferring fire, collimators and new butts, because it’s more convenient, you must agree to bring the front sight and rear sight longer than to look into the collimator where the bullet’s point of contact glows and does not even change its position if you look at an angle.
All this allows you to better act and fulfill the task, can also save the life of our soldier. An ordinary soldier, besides a lump, is not new, but what? An automatic machine, a couple of horns for it, a bronik from the times of the USSR, which weighs 15 kg. and that’s it. It is necessary to equip everyone with at least walkie-talkies with headphones, unloadings, comfortable berets and, if possible, NVD. Since our probable opponent is the United States, and they fight mainly at night, since they are all with PNV, which gives them a huge advantage. Our lighting missiles do not even give. Pros can certainly fight with a musket, but they are pros, our army does not consist of them.

[Tjumenec72]

We don’t argue about the lack of harness in the troops, but we are talking about specialists! They have a choice, albeit not a big one, but they have.
You did not understand the main message, I SPEAK ABOUT THINGS! Do you think the Pindo lads themselves decide what to wear and what to poke at the enemy? - But no, manufacturers have a very strong influence (or rather, the generals that lobby them). Do you think for specialists presentations of the new "device" (trunk) do not hold? Specialists are people too and are subject to marketing tricks (specific marketing for them), after which they carry out “raids” to the corresponding stores. Look how much their rifles cost! The price-quality ratio is clearly violated and towards the price.
Well, yes, of course, we get the unique abilities of a new harness! Like they need to evolve and fit these ideas into battle tactics. Only now is it done that would cut the dough, and only then to increase combat capabilities.
WHERE IS THE PROFIT OF CONSCIENCE NO PLACE!

[prunx]

I agree with a lot. Collimators are certainly a pleasant thing, but it all depends on the qualification of a fighter, for ordinary soldiers it is. I know an uncle who served in the special forces for more than ten years. When he was trained in shooting, the instructors said that a refined skill and developed feelings would achieve fantastic results. These instructors were trained by SMERSH veterans. Seeing how well they shoot, he ceased to be afraid that they would hit him (they were constantly fired upon, this is necessary in order to determine by the sound from where they were shooting, at you or not), but they usually shot from the AKM hanging from the shoulder, from the hip, not bothering to aim through the front sight, fountains from bullets exploded right under your feet. Through the front sight from fifty meters they could hit the left or right eye, of your choice, with one shot to the vskidku, or the cap is removed, with any standard weapon))) I do not think that he greatly exaggerated. And why do such specialists need sights? If only to shoot long distances. This is what concerns the special forces.

[Uncle Sam]

you took the wrong picture for the avatar, take the one where the mummer is in cadaveric spots and traces of shoes on his face

[Tjumenec72]

I'd rather look for a picture of Obama with an unhealthy face)

[Nova]

Why are the uniform colors so strange? A very large pixel? But seriously - why without camouflage?

[roninas]

This is a "slide", the unofficial uniform of the special forces of Russia. Because it is much more convenient and practical than what the Ministry of Defense gives them

[nickname bj]

No, a weapon is not a "soldier's supplement" .. This is his tool. And the better the tool, the better the soldier will be able to perform the task ...
And you have an erroneous "Japanese" attitude towards weapons ..

[KASKAD]

"Boys" in such clothes, the Americans in 2001 laid down 60000 with 300 delta fighters and drones and also overthrew power in the country and captured the capital, and all this in 90 days without losses from the American side.
So much for the difference between the party games and the team with “calculators”

[roninas]

What kind of stupidity are you writing to kaskad again? Where, who, in what country ???? What can a fighter have (judging by the equipment of "Alpha") to some of your mystical (I’m the second time this bike from you on I read this forum) 60000 thousand ??? By the way, "these are" Amin's palaces were taken in the amount of 50 vs 2000, AND THIS IS A FACT

[kosmos84]

THESE KNEADS ARE WEATHER!

[PSih2097]

THESE KNEADS ARE WEATHER!

For fun, get on your knees on the asphalt, see what happens to your trousers and knees ... the same goes for the elbows ...

[kosmos84]

IN CHILDHOOD FROM GREAT, FALLED (EVERYTHING IS IN BLOOD! - STAND UP AND RID! -A Pindos fell ---- PANIC

[PSih2097]

I drove too, fell, drove to my parents on the verge of fainting, and there fell ... a low pain threshold ... Education of the USSR ...
for a moment, because of a broken knee, they call an ambulance ...

[kosmos84]

YOUNGER BROTHER (CH 3 WEEK IN AMUHU FROM GREAT Fell? (CUT ON THE LANGET, DIDN'T ACRY!)) TODAY YOU HAVE YOURSELF WITH YOUR CRUISE HAM, DON'T GIVE ANY FRIEND!

[dmitri077]

"A group of such potsanchigov will work with this team with" calculators "" - such as you would-be professionals need to be treated ... figure out who exactly you posted, and then compose your own fairy tales ... "calculator" walking

[Tjumenec72]

The main thing here is not to overdo it)))

[dmitri077]

"Nice, but functional? It feels like more designers than engineers are working in the US military-industrial complex." - you can't even imagine how functional these monsters of special operations are! ...

[datur]

Yes, we must pay tribute to the Pindos - they are working hard to make ji ah work out their money

[SIA]

Soon they will be electronic all their bells and whistles in a cart.

[Eric]

Ahahahaha is definitely noticed! :)

[prunx]

They invent robots that will carry all the soldier's luggage.

[Alexei]

Ahaha /! I’m lying around ... under the table .. Who at least stupid minuses instructed you?)))))

[dmitri077]

"They will soon carry all their electronic bells and whistles in a cart." - and the cart is rented in the Russian army?

[rumpeljschtizhen]

Beautiful, but functional?

Of course, all this is g.v.better than a t-shirt and thing bag ... (Sarcasm)
They checked it all in real combat.

[sambiz163]

But can you clarify in a battle with whom?
the battle was probably with the partisans who went on carpet bombing for 3 weeks, and the partisans were armed with a 19th-century karamultuk. and in general they just went down the mountain :)

it would be interesting to see how they and their gadgets will crawl through swamps when self-propelled guns will work on them when conducting electronic warfare from the enemy and everything will be in full air in the air

[Yves762]

Doubts take that they will have to fight with whom the thread will be, except with assassins .... my partisans: almost all the enemies have self-destructed.

[Lieutenant colonel]

You are hinting at us. Look dear jerk - "there is no electronic warfare here, and whoever says it is the director of the Ministry of Defense." And the twenty best helicopter flights in the world (it's up to you to decide which mi or ka) will not be able to knock down a bunch of not very good Apaches. The crews flew to the east 2010 exercises from the market. so they will go to fight. And about the swamps - they have already used them. At 41 we were also a little rescued by slush and winter, but at 42 it was not so much (although a lot depended on them, weather conditions). In our city, in 2000, I lost my sole in Mozdok's plasticine for 10 days of stay. And in the American countries .... cabbots in the period from 2003 to 2005 stomped and nothing to himself, still at home. And leave the phrases to work SAU and press EW for housewives. If you understand the issue a little, the self-propelled gun does not work and fires for destruction or defeat. But this is terminology. And we thought who would teach the ACS to fire. Who will give you a lift, who will fix the car (tractor)? To teach an infantryman to shoot, even from an English one, etc. rifles are not difficult. In the army, the foundations were destroyed - special training (not to be confused with spetsnaz, etc.). Specialization training. Neeee, of course, you can perform tasks not in full (crew). it is possible even in the summer hb at 35-, but for how long. It is even possible without communication, so on the knurled - long li. The situation will not even be supported by 50-100 of the newest taks (airplanes, steamships, etc.). The sovereign does not need an army, he needs a police, For this, let them pay their respects, because I will start calling for a riot, and for this we have ,,,,,,,,,,)))))))

[dmitri077]

"It would be interesting to see how they with their gadgets will crawl through the swamps when the self-propelled guns will work on them with electronic warfare from the enemy and everything will be in the air in full" - won't you be the pilot? not yet created such an army

[Joker]

Well, as far as I know, they check this in real conditions before taking something into service, that is, in Iraq, etc.
Therefore, I think if accepted, it means functionally and better than what it was before.

[Gosta]

Our sheepskin coats are still cooler

[rumpeljschtizhen]

dear sambiz163 differences between Amer from our army that they do equipment for the tasks they face ..... at the moment it’s a guerrilla war ..... our army is faced with the same threats in the North Caucasus ..... and compare their equipment .

[PSih2097]

our army is faced with the same threats in the North Caucasus ..... and compare their equipment

we have light armor up to 5 kg holding 5.45 ??? give a link ...
Of the unloadings, only an otter 3m or a mall - but this is already the west ...

[roninas]

Well why .... there is Som "-M32PHT, and others, I mean unloading

[dmitri077]

"The difference between the Amers and our army is that they make equipment for the tasks they face .." - exactly, and this is the main thing! for specific tasks, but not for all occasions, like ours! that's why everything works super efficiently

[Maksim]

The new weapon for US fur seals is fu, what a shame two knives, and a rifled crap.

[Maksim]

I don’t know about you, but I have (in my opinion these are better) Army knife of survival HB-1 Basurmanin and Knife of the Scout Shooting NRS-2.

[Joker]

Well, as far as I know, a firearm is prohibited in Russia, and LDC-2 and I are a firearm.

[sambiz163]

if it weren’t for the army to interfere with the military tasks of politics, then in the North Caucasus peace and order would have been without gadgets for a long time.
and the fact that the sophisticated calculator screwed to the helmet will work in mountainous conditions under changing weather conditions is still a big question the same applies to weapons.
By the way, they don’t do equipment for tasks, but under contracts from the Ministry of Defense
A typical example of the competition between Bing and Lockhead for a multi-purpose aircraft when the main criteria were the cost and timeliness of the prototype to 12-00 specific for.

[Joker]

We always and in everything feel the hand of the omnipotent West, the head hurts after drinking, because the West is to blame.

[Uncle Sam]

bad dancer and eggs interfere
unprofessionalism around, and in the Caucasus he stuck out in all the cracks, I know firsthand

[Lieutenant colonel]

Fatigue is that their calculator works, ours is not. And all appeals to the Scientific Research Institute of Mechanical Engineering, an electronically controlled institute, remain somewhere in the ballot box.
And about would not interfere with both hands for.

[Joker]

When I added this article, I knew in advance that all sorts of room patriots who had never shot this weapon themselves in their lives would comment on it. But for that, with foam at the mouth they will prove that our shovels are cooler, and the Americans, as always, are fools. There will be a Russia-USA war, and I think it will be soon, just in real life and it will be checked whether it is necessary or not, but for now it is not necessary to shake the air once again with its empty comments. This article primarily carries information in itself, and not an excuse for stupid statements.

[enemy]

exactly "indoor patriots"

[LESHA pancake]

SO THERE FROM WHERE THE WIND IS BLOWING - FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF THE USA. (PRAISE ALL Pindosovsky)

[Joker]

We do not praise, but discuss, I would like our soldiers to be equipped in the same way.

[Uncle Sam]

and from your comments farts steam

[Lieutenant colonel]

Do not foam LEHOHA, 20 years gave MO RF. I have a bunch of rewards and penalties not lifted. BIG hemorrhoids and two concussions. Dismissed in 2010 as a person on the separating face of Moscow Region. You need to know the enemy. And you need to know what he has and what it can do (by the way, the pendos took a lot from the system of preparing the Soviet troops - not to be confused with the Russian). A small example, they have the JISAK HAND (now they already have its modernization with a different name). There is an air and ground segment in the HAND; in the ground segment there is a system of deployment, guidance, and fire destruction. So with the intelligence segment there is a good car hammer with a certain system - its destruction leads to the failure of the system for 1 hour 20 minutes. So - Hammer is a good car. But the whole system is not very. I hope I did not really praise the state dep.

[sambiz163]

dear joker
before you inadvertently throw phrases like "room patriots", learn how to present material on the material part as PSih2097 does (5+ per presentation) it is nice to read a person who once held a weapon in his hands
Well, if you wanted to convey information to a reputable community

[Joker]

You claim that he at least held Western-made weapons in his hands and used their gadgets? For some reason, it seems to me that he has never seen them. From myself, I can say the following: if they knew how to fight, then, in spite of any obstacles, they would have won in the Caucasus. Know how to admit your mistakes and stop ultimately blaming the West for all your troubles. Let's start with ourselves, we’ll solve our problems, and when everything around us smells like violets, then we’ll take up the West.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

AND YOU HAVE HANDED THEM THROUGH IF THERE IS NOT WHICH ANYONE RIDES AT ALL, NO ONE DENIES THAT THIS EQUIPMENT IS VERY NEEDED AND CAN SAVE LOTS OF LIFE BUT IT DOESN'T HELP DIFFERENTLY.

[stas52]

About the ability to fight. Our just know how to fight, as, in principle, and amers, about amers you yourself constantly affirm. But if you pay attention to the latest military conflicts, the amers have not won anywhere else. Compare the Caucasus and Iraq, Afghanistan. The results are similar except that ours is also recovering.

[Zerkalo]

As it has become customary, all these gadgets are needed and they are perfectly used. fortunately, they can and create conditions for themselves that there was no self-propelled guns operating on them in the swamp, no counteraction from the enemy’s electronic warfare, and satellites always and all of them function.
It is clear that in the event of a real world war, the satellites will first of all incapacitate, but their analysts are just too strong to do what is profitable for them and to prevent such a development.

[KASKAD]

They don’t even know what they’re trying to hold in their hands Glock and GSh18,
and you will understand how far we have lagged behind if the Glock is made with an accuracy of up to 0,01 mm, then our GS is with an accuracy of up to 2 mm, if we take into account the ergonomics, the reliability, the quality of materials and coatings, then this is simply colossal, for example, scratches on the bluing are tightened on the Glock, I was shocked when this I saw that before the General Staff, when you take it in your hands, it seems that it is not the factory that makes it, but the drunken turner Petya, the tolerances are so high and the materials of manufacture are so poor, how poor is his two-row magazine without rebuilding in one row (as in normal weapon systems ) you can go on for a very long time, but I want to convey the meaning that our production base and soviet designers are not able to compete now in the production of weapons and ammunition, there is no need to harbor illusions that we are ahead of the rest of the world and tear our T-shirt shouting that : "I shot from Mosinka about how it shies, that there is some kind of M16."
It’s very difficult to build up a sports uniform for a long time, and you can lose everything in one moment, and the years 80-90 began.

[Yves762]

There is no bazaar: the quality of performance affects! BUT! low tolerances sometimes badly affect reliability (especially in the field, and the same M-16 proved this). Understand correctly: if you are on the side of pendos with beer and hamburgers, then you will not think much about reliability. If you are on the side, let’s say partisans (otherwise it will be different for Russian patriots in the event of a direct conflict with the West and the East, how the card will fall), then the reliability WILL be decided. I hope the idea is clear ....
Further, the trouble is not in the designers, but in the production, standards, etc. in "management".

[KASKAD]

if it's about "management", and the designers are brilliant, then why the hell are they making a double-row magazine on a new pistol, although such a magazine has proven its fallacy by constant wedges and distortions when feeding cartridges, the whole world has understood this since the 70s and does not produce anything like that, but our designers are under pressure from "management" and they don't want to do reasonable and logical things because of this?

[dmitri077]

"It is very difficult and long to build up a sports form, but you can lose everything in one moment, which became the 80-90 years." - absolutely sure! But we are constantly rattling on our ears that we are not inferior in anything, but in some ways even surpass the enemy ... due to what and who made such a mega-dash? how long can you keep your people for suckers? ...

[Gosta]

Thank you for the article, the author is credited, at least something can be read normal, and not just constant whining as we feel bad, but how we throw all the hats.

[Hannibal]

Yes, all the same, as far as the arming of soldiers is, it is far from us to the Americans and unfortunately there are not even any movements in this direction and are not expected

[prunx]

So it is not and is not expected?

[KASKAD]

exactly ....................

[Yves762]

5.56 * 45 LaRue rifle under the Belgian SS109 cartridge.

[PSih2097]

The LaRue OBR PredatAR semi-automatic rifles in 7,62 and 5,56 NATO calibers are designed for anyone looking for a lightweight, reliable and accurate rifle for home defense, competitive sports or hunting. Compared to previous models (OBR Tactical rifles), the new designs are comparatively lighter. This was done by contouring the barrel, simplifying the guide for sights, giving the barrel pad a "skeletal" shape, and using a low-profile gas outlet. The rifles are available with two barrel options - 406 and 457 mm long. The barrel is made of LW-50 stainless steel with a rifling pitch of 286 mm (rifle in 7,62 mm caliber) or 203 mm (5,56 mm). The Picatinny rail is mounted along the entire length of the receiver. It is also possible to install a guide on the sides of the barrel and under it. Magpul 6-position stock and fire control handle. Trigger - with warning, like Geissele.

Technical specifications

OBR PredatAR 7,62
Caliber: 7,62 mm NATO
Barrel length: 406 or 457 mm
Rifling pitch: 286 mm
Store capacity: 20 cartridges
Weight unloaded: 3,9 kg

OBR PredatAR 5,56
Caliber: 5,56 mm NATO
Barrel length: 406 or 457 mm
Rifling pitch: 203 mm
Store capacity: 30 cartridges
Weight unloaded: 2,9 kg

[SIA]

That OS flies in their gadgets, what will they do then? They are not able to wage a guerrilla war, without fresh toilet paper, they will not go on the attack.

[Joker]

Do not worry, it will not fly, but if it flies, they will deliver another. They take care of their soldiers.

[SIA]

You would say that about our soldiers.

[Joker]

I’d like to say it with pleasure, but it has long been the case with us that in Russia soldier cannon fodder.
We would have been shaking for every soldier, we would have given out normal uniforms and weapons not from the time of the USSR, I would have been just happy.
You know, I think these computers would be of great help to our soldiers, you can get information about the enemy’s location on them, see where your comrades are located, receive tasks on them and correct the location of subordinates.
And unfortunately we even have one radio on 20 people.

[kostiknet]

Joker, I’d like to say it with pleasure, only for a long time it happened to us that soldier cannon fodder in Russia.
We would have been shaking for every soldier, we would have given out normal uniforms and weapons not from the time of the USSR, I would have been just happy.
In 1994, in our garrison (Strategic Missile Forces), they gathered "pilots", sent them to the unit, where they formed a combined battalion. There they fired a couple of times from the "Kalash" and left the whole crowd in "Chechenia". The guys wrote that about 20 people survived the first night battle (it was a long time ago, I don't remember exactly). Curiously, in 2011, fighters are also "cherished", or has something changed? About weapons - they drove an BTR-60 to their "blocks" (they showed pictures in the company), and where did they dig up this stuff?

[PSih2097]

About weapons - they brought BTR-60 to their "blocks" (they showed pictures in the company), and where did they dig up this stuff?

Since conservation, probably, there are many of them left, since the Soviet era.

[Foamas]

And why is the BTR-60PB bad? (especially since being at a checkpoint as a firing point), because it is radically worse than BTR-70,80 weapons and armor are the same.

[Uncle Sam]

there dviglo gasoline

[Joker]

Foamas

The BTR-60 has the weakest armor of this family, when compared with the 80th, the elevation angle of the machine gun is also smaller, and the petrol engine (as already written here), the landing and exit hatches are less convenient.

I agree as a firing point, and even if there is no difference in sandbags.

[Joker]

Yes, to be honest, it seems to me that something has hardly changed, it is only now that they have begun to purchase equipment. Our specialists are dressed in all overseas and with AN-94 like.
But it’s unlikely that you can win a war by pure specialists, our planes are a little worse than the United States (we are waiting for the t-50), our helicopters are much better than what the X-NUMX is, tanks are worse, we have better BMPs (my personal opinion). This, again, if we compare by the stand, it’s just that we don’t get much from the stand, and if it does, it’s in limited quantities. If you want to buy the most in the army and so that it doesn’t stand in the garages and equip the soldiers properly, then the 52 Americans will think about it before they reach us. But so far this is not ... Again, the soldiers ’skills need to be improved, not with outfits and tidying, but with shooting and tactical exercises. + In cities, a couple of times a year, exercises can be carried out with the involvement of young people. Finally, it’s normal to shoot films about the military so that children watch and take pride in their country. And now that the cop-bribe takers, military bribe takers and assassins show, after such films children are already distrustful of all.
First, I believe that patriotism in the country should be developed, without it, nowhere.

[kesa1111]

Patriotism is a quality inherent in a normal person if he lives in a normal country. Let's make the youth have something to be proud of and a desire to protect such a country. Thieves and corrupt officials from films are not as scary as they are real. Now, on the contrary, everything is fine in the cinema and on TV, but it's worth going outside .... I have heard from young people more than once - that let the Abramovichs and Putinovichs fight for themselves. Too often they hear: to be silent cattle, it will do for you anyway. In Russian: patriotism is not muscle, it will not work.

[Tolia]

Where did they get it? Those who dealt with them speak respectfully of them ... or fairy tales of political instructors who just can’t do anything and are incapable of anything, so pleasantly caress the hearing and give themselves self-affirmation?

[PSih2097]

Those who dealt with them speak respectfully of them ...

they are either in non-disclosure subscriptions "like a barboska in fleas", or they are not ... plus all cases and operations are classified as sov.secret or state secrets ...

[Uncle Sam]

guerrilla warfare, green berets teach rebels around the world, and they have no equal.

[dmitri077]

"without fresh toilet paper, they won't attack." - what nonsense is that? what were you standing next to? where does such an exclusive come from? always on poop they haven’t been attacking for a long time .. the Predator will fly in and on the tip of the specialists will spread the excrement of those who disagree on the local stones ... that’s all ... the observer damn

[PSih2097]

And as for the gadgets, I think everyone will agree that the soldier needs the knife, the multitool is needed, the optics are desirable, the armor with the discharge are needed, the shoes are needed, the connection is needed, if you list, then a lot is needed and desirable at the expense of the state, and not for his own. This MO can give out with a bang - that we (MO) have changed the army, but what - it remains in question ...

[KASKAD]

By the way, I drove the military American Multitools here TTX:

- Black oxidized coating.
- Replaceable tungsten carbide inserts for side cutters (when blunting one face of a triangular insert, it is easy to turn over to a new face in the field).
- Case included (under the molly, the belt will also work).

- Each tool is fixed with a lock, the locking mechanism is patented, does not become loose over time.
- The opening mechanism is made in such a way that without difficulty it is possible to open the passages with one hand, the mechanism is patented (in case the second hand is occupied or injured).
- There is a serreytorny knife
Lightweight durable comfortable without much frills, in general, the workpiece is army-quality and solid.
The sharpened sharpened while uncoiling twice almost nearly cut slightly by touching the blade of the knife and saw.

[PSih2097]

I took this to myself:

[KASKAD]

And here are mine

http://ohotaclub.ru/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=230
I bet mine is easier.

[Joker]

Our analogue:

Knife multifunctional Minesweeper (Sweep-3)

[KASKAD]

Herrase I do not vkurse guys

[Joker]

It would have been wonderful if the soldiers were given this.

[KASKAD]

Yes, it is of low quality metal and does not meet military standards

[Joker]

And why did the deer fly? This universal knife is a fact, like it or not, and even though it is limited, it enters the troops (according to my information).

[ereke]

I plus, Knife as universal is good. If the Russian Federation, there are people who do this. In general, the minuses are somehow put here, not from the constructiveness or destructiveness of the cement. And for some other reasons)) Well, nothing the Joker called himself a load, climb into the basket as they say Yes. Or go to the end, as one here said to me, the Cons do not affect your life. And inappropriately bend under all))

[Joker]

Thank you, I simply could not resist the temptation to name a certain category of oligophrenics as deer.

[SIA]

Quote: PSih2097

but what - it remains in question ...

This is the first question. The second question, when did you manage to change clothes, change clothes, rearm?

[PSih2097]

The second question, when did you manage to change clothes, change clothes, rearm?

In figure, haven't everyone changed clothes with new berets models? regarding rearmament - this is to stool

[Joker]

By the way, I wanted to ask knowledgeable people a long time ago, it’s kind of dressed up for a figure, but in the pictures on the internet who is dressed like, who is in the old and who is in the new. Again, it’s like they changed the police, but I never saw their new uniform. To berets, to be honest, I did not pay attention.
By the way, do we have unloading in service? Or does everyone buy them for his own?
Recently, on the Internet, I saw a lump of our new company’s survival case, they have their own patented colors and materials for molds in America they buy, and the whole kit of molds, well, thousands will come out in 10, if that's all. Here is a link to their site if anyone is interested http://www.survivalcorps.ru

[petor41]

http://www.airsoftinfo.ru/camos/?camo=75
http://www.airsoftinfo.ru/camos/?camo=58
http://www.airsoftinfo.ru/camos/?camo=42

Look at the links, but in general more often get out from behind a computer and you will see everything with your own eyes! And in general it is a shame that such a major specialist in all matters does not know such basic things!

[Joker]

Thanks for the links, but not necessarily rude. About what types of camouflage in the Russian army I know, you do not quite understand what I mean. I asked if the figure was adopted as a single camouflage for all military branches in the Russian Federation? Or is it just in words, and our army will be dressed in old and new lumps? Here is what I asked. Because I often see cadets of military institutes in the field vole, the numbers are colorful, and on the Internet, everyone is dressed who is very much dressed.

[petor41]

The figure is adopted. I don’t know about all kinds of troops, but for sure in the ground forces! In the internet, just old pictures! Now almost everyone has changed into a new field uniform! I don’t know about unloading, but Alexey Prikazchikov said that he had seen and he really liked it! And the fact that the survival corps shows this camouflage is delivered by the FSB FS, I don’t know everyone, but they go to the Far East like that! This topic about the form has already been erased before the holes, everything that is possible and impossible has already been written about it in previous articles! Everyone has already expressed that the Pindos have better uniforms and equipment, but ours has taken a step forward!

[KASKAD]

The whole form is cursed. It is cold. It fades. It is sewn with rotten threads of Chinese fabric for three pennies. About the survival building, the equipment will cost you 30-40 rubles. It’s cheaper to buy ready-made in the USA and bring it and it will be cheaper! In the USSR in 1991, colonels went to watch American anti-terrorist exercises and saw how the Delta special forces unit storm the captured building, they saw that each soldier had personal protective equipment and communications, and if the commander was injured, he immediately took command of his subordinate, came back to the union and said that we don’t have the equipment for defense and communication for each fighter, they are told here yes we have everything we want to show, they arrived at the design bureau and took a healthy paratrooper, put on him everything that was intended and he could not get out of the chair. The Russian outfit sucks for two reasons: 1. Corruption in the Moscow Region and 2. The reason is not the desire to make a competition between private enterprises such as the survival corps, for example, but they give sewing to convicts or to Ivanovo half-drunk seamstresses who never did anything other than work gloves, and The Ministry of Defense does not conduct any quality control of the ammunition violated in the Armed Forces, and there are no standards for uniforms and ammunition in the United States, and this is why all Russian ammunition weighs 25 kg.

[Alexei]

Let me disagree with you. In the assembly, 25 weighed when I served, and it weighed so much because of the bronick. But still, we ran to 10-15 km. It's hard for the first half a year, and then you get used to it) And now what vests? I just not in the know, I don’t teach truths from links.

[KASKAD]

American assembly maximum 8-9kg, I won’t lie, I don’t remember how much exactly but for 15kg exactly.
And I remembered the barnica assy 36kg !!!!!!!!!!!! that's why the MO refused it from 2000; it was being developed and by 2015 it was to equip troops.

[Rawling4851]

"Tell the sovereign that the British do not clean their guns with bricks: let it not be cleaned here either, otherwise, God save war, they are not good for shooting."

[rumpeljschtizhen]

corpus survival companies

Yes, they made their colors patented ..Surpat ...... but find me in it 5 differences from marpat

[img] http://www.freewebs.com/blacksnakekiller/MARPAT [1] .jpg [/ img]

last marpat

[Joker]

Yes, when I saw it for the first time, I immediately thought about marpat, only the color is different. Well, there’s a patent so you won’t find fault, and the marpat is very good camouflage.

[KASKAD]

Did you know that the most modern camouflage pattern is the MULTICAM pattern developed by the American company Crye Precision jointly by the US Army Soldier Systems Center. The latter is also known as the US Army Natick labs laboratory.
And marpat is already becoming obsolete, although our army and before marpat like to the moon the figure that is accepted to equip such shit is just a nightmare.

http://topwar.ru/2911-multicam-revolyuciya-sredi-kamuflyazhej.html

[Joker]

Well, it costs a lot, of course, if you buy the original, and Propper and Tru-spec do it cheaper, but of course you can not compare it with the original.

[KASKAD]

Ohhhh your propper is not the original ??? 30% of the entire contract stuff is done by Proper, and with them EA Industries, American Apparel, etc., and at the price it is now quite normal. Believe me, I have been selling American equipment for a year and I know what I'm talking about. By the way, there is one Polish company HELIKON-TEX that makes equipment according to American standards, and even somehow they achieved certificates of compliance with American components ECWCS GEN III - a military, army kit of an American soldier. This is a set of clothes consisting of seven 7 layers.
ECWCS GEN III is used from -40`C to + 15`C.

[Joker]

Camry was invented by Crye Precision for cartoons, the rest produce the mold with their permission, the same Proper, each company paints with its own paint, therefore the original cam can be bought only from Crye Precision. But I am not saying that Proper and Tru-spec are bad, they are about the same quality. I was just talking about the original.

[KASKAD]

Crye Precision is a developer, and production is just on Propere, and with it also EA industries, American Apparel and so on. It's like a design office and production lines, Tru-speck is a Chinese hat in general, do not equal it with contract things.

[Joker]

For tomorrow, another interesting article was thrown off, if everything will be the norm, read about how ordinary soldiers in the USA are equipped.

[Max79]

They also forgot to put on their underpants with a silencer. I heard somewhere such a saying ... Why didn’t the American soldier accomplish a single feat? Because he didn’t spell it in the contract ... A good phrase and leads to reflection .. .

[Uncle Sam]

they made a lot of feats, in the good night the kids do not show about it

[lightforcer]

Americans do not commit feats, this is not in the contract.

[Kochetkov.serzh]

Cool peppers) like a movie straight .... and so of course we are many lacking in ammunition.

[Alexei]

The rifles are beautiful, no doubt. But for some reason I have (I don’t know why) the feeling that you need to be extremely careful when handling them, because they are fragile. And so I agree that we urgently need to work on equipping our soldiers. The Americans are constantly working, but we don’t know, they’re stuffing their pockets ... Well, nothing, the amount seems to have been allocated for the army, and someone will have to ask for spent.

[KASKAD]

It’s just that not one general has ever tried to run a couple of kilometers in our equipment, otherwise they would already be looking for someone to buy from abroad

[Joker]

Well, I think they also ran at one time, not all of course.

[Joker]

stood out it stood out, only it's all on the equipment, but on the equipment like nothing. However, as usual.

[Joker]

Here is for broadening horizons. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c3qwIgSJRY

[zavesa01]

You look at the form of the Navy, she generally Peter the Great. Because TRADITIONS OF THE HOLY.

[Joker]

Yes, but this is the Navy, and camouflage is needed to mask a person, or at least be very convenient. But with us, not a single one is followed in the development of camouflage. You must agree with the number, it masks in vain both near and far (a dark spot turns out), the camouflage should blur the silhouette in the first place.

[Gurza]

Tjumenec72
uuuu super! Thanks for the picture! If you are interested, there is such a "blogger", his name is KARDEN, he maintains a LiveJournal and a page on the tube, he answers questions himself, he answered me, he describes the weapon perfectly, takes pictures of everything in detail, with explanations, with pros and cons, he is not a representative of the plant, he is a commando , speaks only the truth, sometimes bitter, but from him you can learn the exact information!

At the expense of the equipment, I can say: - Well done amers, in what in what, but here well done, I respect them for this, as enemies. But there is one BUT !!! Can you imagine what the conflict between the West and Russia means! This is the use of not only conventional weapons but also nuclear weapons, "EMP" weapons. It will simply be such a mess that all these gadgets will either burn out (more precisely, the electronics will burn out), or there simply will not be enough "batteries" for them
To contain the West, we have YARS and there is a Bulava (by the way, the mace was included in the START Treaty! BUT the Liner missile was not included in it, information on which was simply absent for some time) they may well keep the west at a distance and cool their heads in case of aggression ... Right now, conversations will begin that they say how many of them we have .... and so on and so on. So FOR REFERENCE: Scientists have calculated that 50 nuclear explosions of modern warheads are enough to destroy the planet, no matter who destroys whom how many times, EVERYTHING will simply die!
Real re-equipment is needed in the Caucasus, Georgia has shown that real military operations in the Caucasus are quite possible, so you need to keep an army that is large and well-trained.
So in general, I believe that everything is being done right, but it’s VERY sorry that a lot of money is being stolen and our soldiers aren’t getting a lot of the weapons they need.
P / S for the destruction of Russia, the United States has another plan, the so-called Dulles plan. An example of such a plan is here and now, look at some bloggers. We must agitate the youth ourselves, namely AGITATE, not brainwash, this is a big difference, because they were born here to live here, and there is nothing shameful to hammer into the minds of young people that we can do everything, do not give in to the promises of the West, there is also not everything so happy.!

[Joker]

read here .... http://talks.guns.ru/forummessage/51/571481.html

[Gurza]

So what? Another article, I don’t see anything special, there are a lot of such articles. Where are your thoughts ??? Some articles and the usual chatter !!!!!!! You certainly saw criticism of the Russian military and decided to invite me to read it. Believe me, my friend, I myself talked with people who really fought, but not everything is so straightforward, a lot of mistakes, but everything is progress! And the Pindos, no matter how cool they look, are also dying, no one will tell you the losses of the Pindostan, you should not rely on official sources. One polkan told me that in the 1 days of the war in Iraq, the amers lost order 10 000 people ...... who will refute? no one!

[Joker]

My thoughts are that our soldiers are badly equipped and dressed like homeless people. Our army is currently squalor, which you can’t look at with tears in your eyes. They show new equipment at exhibitions in order to pretend that they are doing something, but are not taking anything into service. And if everything goes further in this direction, the country will never have any defense. Here are my thoughts.

[Gurza]

DO YOU KNOW WHERE ?? Have you talked to people ??? So you just look at the pictures, play shooting games and EVERYTHING !!!! You are simply not competent and EVERYTHING !!!!! You are just talking instead of reinforcing your words with really strong facts !!!!!!!! What they don’t report to us, what we have. This does not mean that we do not have it !!!!!!!!!!!

[Joker]

Well, yes, sorry, probably the new uniform and our new weapons with equipment, the government of Russia in the stores has hidden and classified somewhere and will only give out in case of war, but for now, let our soldiers drive like homeless people, right? And with M4 I also shot with FN Scar-l, I have good friends in the USA and once a year I fly to visit them, and so these 2 submachine guns are in their family, they went out together and shot from them, you know, the difference with AK is very big, more compact and more convenient, and the return is less, and as it seemed to me more accurately they are at times, I can’t say anything in terms of reliability, I shot probably horns from each 3, nothing stuck.

[Gurza]

M4 and FN scar excellent trunks no one argues. even our military confirms this. At the expense of reliability: you are certainly cool to shoot the 3 horn and it doesn’t even jam, go nuts ..... oiled, the new machine didn’t jam too ??? it happens ??? O_O Tell me please Joe, then why are so many amers choosing Kalash when real fighting takes place ??? By the way, I recently saw a photograph of an Australian special forces, one of the fighters had our old man AKM (with bells and whistles, optics, etc., etc.) But he was not embarrassed to carry it ........ think about it !!!!

[Joker]

Reread my comment, I wrote that I can’t say anything by reliability, because I shot only 3 horns. Please post me photos of Americans with Kalash, then we’ll talk. As for reliability, the M4 is inferior to the AK, but American soldiers say that no special tricks are needed, once a day it is necessary to carry out incomplete disassembly and lubricate all the details. A new modification of the M4 is being developed, in which many of the shortcomings will be eliminated, including reliability. Scar is built around the same design as the AK, so it is about as reliable as the AK.

[PSih2097]

with me, my classmate’s husband shot 1000 rounds of ammunition from the AK (the fore-end was already burning), there were only 15 RPK drums (70) and as many stores from the AK, he shot everything, but when the people took it apart and cleaned it started I felt sorry for him, he cleaned 3 hours, and we drank the same 3 hours with him, but I saw people related to weapons SO in the states only. (Where is this fucking gun reform) THIS IMHO ...

[KASKAD]

Quote: Joker

My thoughts are that our soldiers are badly equipped and dressed like homeless people. Our army is currently squalor, which you can’t look at with tears in your eyes. They show new equipment at exhibitions in order to pretend that they are doing something, but are not taking anything into service. And if everything goes further in this direction, the country will never have any defense. Here are my thoughts.

Totally agree

[Joker]

Someone hates you, or rather tries to drive you into the minus.
Have you worn Oakley gloves? And then I want to buy myself, and reviews on the Internet only about their replicas.

[KASKAD]

I read a review of the Marine writes that the water would not be bad but they are made in Vietnam
I'll take Mechanics myself soon

[Joker]

I wear 5.11, but they got worn out so I’m thinking what new ones to take.

[KASKAD]

So, after 5.11 frank China, it’s not surprising that they quickly fell apart, if you have friends in the USA, ask them to send BLACKHAWK gloves to themselves such demi-season ones, but until they arrived they praised them very much.

[Joker]

Ok, thanks for the tip.

[Tjumenec72]

by the way on talks.guns.ru sit mostly hunters with trinkets (the thing that is the most thing to eat and the yaphone come from the majority)

[Joker]

Well fight with the musket and further if you want it.

[Tjumenec72]

I don’t have to juggle, I'm not talking about that
PS I think I’ll take a collimator for my tiger

[Gurza]

Joker, you’re not having a constructive conversation, you know little and understand little !!! Very little, war is not a masquerade, it’s important not what it looks like !!
The tiger is an excellent trunk, it seemed very soft to me, shot from it from a distance of 250m. with the PSO-1 sight at the 7x7 target see (stone), 2 hits from 2. Great choice!! I envy!

[Joker]

In my opinion, you are not conducting a constructive conversation, I am not talking about beauty but about convenience. Those. You want to say that a collimator for beauty and a thermal imager with night vision devices, too, as well as a walkie-talkie, lightweight and comfortable body armor, are all this for beauty and masquerade?

[Gurza]

Of course, a commando officer needs a thermal imaging sight to work indoors, it is simply necessary ........ CHALLENGE !!!! I’m not saying that this is not necessary! I TALK THAT EVERYTHING SHOULD BE CORRECTLY SELECTED FOR THE TASK !!!!! The collimator for the scout, just stupid, light bronik, yes. Alpha collimators, heavy helmets, heavy bronics. That's the point, put your brains out, put yourself in the place of a warrior !!!!!!!!

[Joker]

You probably didn’t understand me correctly from the beginning, I’m not saying that you need to carry a bag of junk with you, I meant that the soldier should have all this junk, and he himself will figure it out when something needs to be taken from the bag. That's what I had in mind, and our soldiers aren’t just junk, they don’t have a bag either, I added an 2 article for tomorrow, about the equipment of a US soldier and our soldier, look and compare, if of course it is interesting.

[KASKAD]

Isn’t the 7x7 target itself funny? In the west, it is considered a decent rifle rifle with a grouping of no more than 1 MOA that is about 2,6-2,7 cm, all that is not considered higher for a weapon, for example, with the Staerovskaya SSg 08 you can get into a hat of a hundredth nail from a hundred meters and thereby hammer it if you try with SVD
then the hat on the nail should be 7x7cm

[Gurza]

We didn’t have a benchrest competition. I can give a lot of reasons why your comment is inappropriate! The point is not that!

[KASKAD]

Quote: GurZa

The tiger is an excellent trunk, it seemed very soft to me, shot from it from a distance of 250m. with the PSO-1 sight at the 7x7 target see (stone), 2 hits from 2. Great choice!! I envy!

I mean that the Tiger with the PSO-1 sight is an "excellent barrel".

[Gurza]

We had 2 scopes in those tiger shootings. 1. PSO-1 was intended exclusively for photographs, as the owner of the barrel writes to the magazine "hunting"
2. unfortunately I don’t know the scope of night vision, production and marking.
Everything else was left at home.

[Joker]

I also used to have a tiger recently bought a Remington 1100, a great thing and all sorts of gadgets are not superfluous.

[Gurza]

It all depends on the task! Sometimes there are!

[Joker]

Please give an example when gadgets are redundant ...

[Gurza]

I’m already tired of tapping the same thing !!!! Lord, I’m not against the bass, not all of them are needed in this or that situation, you are like a child by God, is it not so difficult to understand me ??? If you like the USA so much, go to Iraq or Afghanistan, bring democracy ....... I have a relative married to an American, so what? You know, she told me how her brother served in Kuwait. All day, in turn, they sat on the tower and watched ..... I asked her: - Is that all? She said yes, just sitting in turns, boring things !!!!!!!!

[PSih2097]

Lord, I’m not against pribmbasy, not all of them are needed in a particular situation, you, as a child, by God, is it not so difficult to understand me ???

And here it is about this. It's just that they are not in the army, and if there are, then they were either bought at their own expense on sites such as ibei, or trophy from the Caucasus, our gadgets are not produced, and if they are, then either the quality is lame or the price is sky-high, and the quantity not so much ...

[Joker]

That's just what I wanted to convey.

[Joker]

I’ll probably decide for myself what to do, your advice is a little inappropriate.

[KASKAD]

They are superfluous only in one case if you have to drag far away on yourself

[Gurza]

KASKAD you understand that. And Joker, as a little one, was dressed, he was allowed to shoot, and he, as a prostitute, rushed to the States without understanding anything, he must be praying at star-striped at home!

[Joker]

Comrade cattle, read the rules of the site and do not go on insults please.

[dmitri077]

"And the Joker, how small, was dressed, allowed to shoot and he, like a prostitute, without understanding anything, rushed to the States, I suppose at home to the Stars and Stripes praying!" - very rude, patsriotische! choose expressions

[PSih2097]

They are superfluous only in one case if you have to drag far away on yourself

And rightly so, I note. On the other hand - the stock pocket does not pull ...

[Gurza]

If there are patros, or food, then 100% is not. This is a debate about 2 ends, as usual shorter!

[Tjumenec72]

they have there for this robo-dog do)))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNZPRsrwumQ
Damn you will see such a fortune)))
and this is BigDog beta version)))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXJZVZFRFJc

[PSih2097]

SMSS robot worth $ 500 thousand is designed to transport up to 300 kg of cargo. In the back of a cargo automated platform, you can load everything that soldiers need on the battlefield: ammunition, supplies, medicine, heavy weapons, etc.

The weight of the device is about 3,2 tons, it moves on six wheels at a speed of 30-40 km / h and can transport 863 kg of cargo. The device frees infantrymen from carrying personal ammunition when performing combat missions on foot.

The basic version of the system has a mass of 1,7 tons and is modernized in Israel. The total weight of the machine is about 2 tons with a payload of 1 ton. The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) see this vehicle as a conveyor of equipment to support infantry in urban operations and supply the necessary equipment, such as ammunition, under enemy fire. A tactical floating ground support vehicle can also be used to transport the wounded in a situation where the medical team is at risk of attack.

[KASKAD]

Well, I think it’s not worth insulting anyone, I agree with Joker too because I wore an American uniform and fired with imported weapons, believe me, we are behind, look at the bottom of the video from the exhibition, there is about K100 Grand Power which I own, about which there Yaroslav tells, look you will not regret


http://rutube.ru/tracks/4403875.html?v=c18f6884e38cdab909b29909a9fc7bd3

[Gurza]

KASKAD-Already looked, really liked it. I already wrote above that I respect Americans very much because they are so supplying their Army, that everything is put on the conveyor belt. But I despise them as a nation, for everything that they do, for their lies, for their pomp ....... because they live in debt and put the whole world on a dollar ..... Look at Libya. .....like?! It can also be with us, God forbid of course. Therefore, they should clearly know that in the event of war, our ball will fly away in such tarara !!!!!!

[KASKAD]

I think that in order for the Russian army to gain strength and authority, it is necessary to learn from American and European systems how to prepare supply systems for the Armed Forces and quality control, gain experience and build your own on this basis, correcting the shortcomings of their system only then you can firmly stand on your own feet and dictate your point view of the world, missiles, missiles, but without a professionally highly trained and equipped army, we cannot dictate our policies to the world on equal terms.

As the Americans say: "you need your own Colt on the negotiating table"

This is just my point.

[Gurza]

Yes, it really is, in many ways I agree, it's just that our school is not bad at all, it's just different, has its own history and traditions !!

[SIA]

All electronics and camouflage should be in place.

[PSih2097]

What Gon..n minus without even reading comments?

[KASKAD]

So I'm wondering who this "genius" is?

[PSih2097]

I realized that someone from our Moscow Region, such as nakh robots ..., a soldier will hold out even if the weight is greater than him - an order ... weapons and uniforms - this is only with the knowledge of the Moscow Region, etc. especially until 18-00 (working hours) ...
shorter trolls of our MO ...

[PSih2097]

Let's draw an analogy for those who disagree (consider the supply of the armies of the Russian Federation and the USA), and not according to the "strike force" program.
So:
compare (lump):
RF: number "like" from Yudashkin and Gorka
USA: 6 options figures + 30 options from European NATO countries (I exaggerate, there are actually more)
I am silent about shoes ... (either west, or on order), ours is a maximum for a couple of months of active action.
gunshot
RF:
AK assault rifles - adopted for service, AN - Spn, AEK - KhZ, it is not clear why ...
Snipers: BCC, (SVDK, VSSK, SVDK, SVD - do not satisfy, according to the current requirements of the Ministry of Defense), English are taken.
Despite the fact that in terms of optics we are hopelessly behind the same Belarus ... I am generally silent about the west.
pistols:
I’m silent about the pasta ... GS18, PJ, vector, rook, etc. there are pistols for all military branches, up to APS with PBS, but for some reason they spread rot and look at Beretta, Glock, Walther, etc.
U.S.:
Assault rifles (assault rifles): derivatives of the M-16 (there are many) + trunks of all NATO countries
Snipers:
Remington, barrel, + trunks of all NATO countries
Pistols: Colt, S&W + trunks of all NATO countries
uniforms (armor plates, unloading, modules to them):
It’s interesting on Shi to the mall they thought of it only recently, the amers in Afghanistan still supplied the Mujahideen ...
One should not accept my criticism as the triumph of the West over the East; one must accept it as it is, however insulting it may be ...

[Joker]

For this, he added an article to compare the equipment and took note.
It's a shame for our soldiers ...

[roninas]

That's it, an article for comparison .. Surely, it’s more convenient to fight in a convenient outfit, with good communications, well, we won’t talk about weapons, it’s debatable enough. do not save on their soldiers

[PSih2097]

Dear Joker, do a review about the USMC, rangers, CAC and any of the Bundes - similar troops, ... in armament, support and uniforms ...

[Joker]

In the summary article? Tomorrow, it seems like my article will appear about the equipment of an ordinary US soldier.
You can of course write one article about the equipment of different NATO countries in comparison.

[Joker]

Added about USMC, then tomorrow I will go to the Bundeswehr.

[marmon]

Where does such hatred for the USA come from or is it envy? In the same USA, a lot of Russians live and do not feel bad.

[Joker]

Explain this to those who drove me to the rating in the minus

[SIA]

Well, you had to try VERY hard to get the "Jolly Roger" for epaulettes.

[Alexei]

Yes, this is bullshit. Here is a "Russian person" - a real careerist, in 3 days 1 roger)

[SIA]

This must have a special talent.

[Alexei]

I always add ratings to such "talents" so that they don't curry favor in the opposite direction.

[SIA]

Quote: Marmon

Where does such hatred for the USA come from or is it envy? In the same USA, a lot of Russians live and do not feel bad

Yes, where does the hate? And that these Russians in Russia do not live now? Are they going to get worse? Why did they leave for the USA? They lived badly in Russia?

[Alexei]

Rushing to where the ass is warm is not in Russian, I think.

[Joker]

Please tell me, is this the meaning of human life? Why is a person born into the world in order to fight? Serve someone? Hobble?
I don’t need such a life, I was born in order to live life with dignity, so that when I died I had something to remember, some bright moments of my life. So that I know that my children will not ask for alms on the street, they will not need anything. At the same time, I do not want to recall some kind of war between animals, about the fact that some uncle billionaire considers himself a god on earth and interferes with my personal life. I want to live it so that there is as much light as possible in my life. And by no means in a society of ill-mannered, uncultured, immoral, thumping and omnipresent animals that only think about some kind of war and constantly envy everyone and everything, because nothing happens in their gray life. From the fact that I was born on a piece of land called Russia, now I owe something to someone? It turns out I was born a slave to a moronic state that came up with a society to which I now owe something, although I did not receive anything from it in return. If there is a war, I must defend this state, WHY? Then what is so customary in the society to which I owe, I, as a slave of my state, should give my life so that there live people whom I do not even know and who never did anything for me. Yes, it’s necessary, I’ll gather all my relatives and go where there is no war, my state is where my family is. A house, land is a secondary matter, I was not born to be a slave to society. I live for myself and not for anyone.

[Alexei]

Joker] If there is a war, I must defend this state, WHY?

So for the sake of your family, so that your children do not ask for alms. For what else did they die in wars? For mothers, children and the Motherland. I’ll leave where there is no war ... If our ancestors did this, then you wouldn’t be like the state -yah. Running away from problems is your worth?
Drive, of course, but remember --- whatever the times and circumstances, you are the only one who holds the answer for your soul.

[Joker]

Yes, I’ll take my relatives with me. Run away from problems? What problems? Which other people create, they fight not against me but against the state and its power, if the USA in Russia met with flags and pipes, would they shoot at all? This is not genocide. You want to fight, but I pass, I will do everything so that my relatives feel good, and let the rest think with their own heads, want to fight, please, they want to quietly, sit at home peacefully, please. I was not born to fight for a piece of land. It’s been a prime minister, it’s the 21 century and we’re fighting each other, it would be better if we fought terrorism and drugs and brought order to our countries.

[sambiz163]

DEAR COMMUNITY
I am ashamed that a person with such an opinion walks along that piece of land that I call the Motherland, and foreigners enviously call Russia.
The principle is simple - do not like to change citizenship and go abroad !!!!!
When our grandfathers stopped German tigers with their bare hands near Moscow ....... I am personally responsible to my grandfathers and other dead soldiers so that this piece of land is always spoken in Russian, Ukrainian, Tajik, Mordovian and other languages ​​!!!! !!!!
If necessary, I will fight with a shovel without any calculators.
By the way, as far as I know beyond the Arctic Circle there are no problems with terrorism, drugs and everywhere @@@ with animals too Joker - you go there :) :)))))))

[Joker]

I’ll figure out where to go without you, as long as it suits me. It seems that someone is taking your land away, the government will be removed and that's it, nobody will touch you and your relatives too. And about "they always spoke in Russian, Ukrainian, Tajik, Mordovian and other languages" it smacks of racism, you know the land is common and it's not up to you to decide who will live where. It is high time for all civilized countries to unite and make a free visa-free zone on their territory. Develop together and raise the standard of living.

[Alexei]

Joker] It feels like someone is taking your land from you, they’ll take it off
the government and everything, no one will touch you, nor your relatives either.

It feels like the Joker never talked with the people who went through the occupation. You talk with old women while they are alive, they will tell you how they had to not wash and go dirty and in dirty rags to the invaders (which in your opinion should only change the government) they weren’t overpowered in the sexual plan. And with your naive thoughts (I apologize), you Joker made a mistake on the site.

[Joker]

In the 2-th World it was not a war, but a genocide, it is not necessary to compare it with modern wars.

[KASKAD]

You surprise me, do you live well in Russia? Are you an oligarch? Or Kadyrov?
If I work hard as a dad, Carlo, God forbid, I’ll earn 15 thousand rubles at some factory from which taxes will be deducted and nay @ boot another thirty percent, as a result you will get 7 thousand rubles in your hands and go feed your family, in the USA I have a friend worked on an exchange half a year worked as a lifeguard on the beach and in the evening he pounded goods in a supermarket from two jobs received $ 86 a day and you need to take into account how much cheaper it is, for example, a Lexus new passenger car in the cabin $ 43 we have the same Lexus $ 000 in Moscow, electronic goods are much cheaper at times, there is a country for people, and each one of us fills up and fells, and wherever everything goes through one place, you probably have to be Putin’s nephew to do something without a bribe. That's why they leave there, I would leave, not for myself, even though the children would live like people in a normal house with heating with light and a car in the garage, and not in a communal apartment 120 * 000 m

[Atlz]

They themselves made such a life, but the guilty must be the king, leader, president, oligarch, and so on and so forth ... Even the bandits, for their exaltation, did something and not ached. Here and the results. (At what cost- this is another conversation, separate) .A ..

[Joker]

Aha, that is, I have to shave my whole life for someone, no, thank you very much.

[SIA]

Joker
Listen, for you, for me and for all those living today, our fathers, grandfathers, and maybe some of them have their own lives, gave their lives. And here you say that ... "my hut is on the edge, I don't know anything." What kind of ostrich behavior, to hide your head in the sand? Aren't you ashamed in front of yourself?
Although what am I talking about, what shame?
After all, shame is not smoke, eyes will not eat, right?

[Alexei]

Yes, he just made a mistake on the website. He wanted to go to the "cutting and sewing site", to prepare the relatives for the winter, tie them up and dress them up, and then they force them to fight. Let him go over the hill, as they say "the detachment did not notice the loss of a soldier."

[Joker]

Thank you, without your clever comments, I would not even know what to do, as I opened my eyes straight.
Those. do you think if you read sites with a military theme, then you should fight? This logic surprises me

[Joker]

God didn’t give a man a head to eat in it, but to think if he has it for food, then fight of course. Shame on what? If my relatives will be fine, then what am I ashamed of?

[SIA]

Are you completely DUMMY or what? I just can't understand you, your "ostrich-idiotic policy." Think for yourself to whom you owe your life so that a guano like you dangles like some kind of substance in an ice-hole. The fact that you became a guan and fell into an ice-hole is only your fault, nobody else's.
Then get out of Russia, to your beloved Pindostan, bury your ass in a deep anti-nuclear bunker, but you like to build bunkers that are shifted at the end of the world. You have nothing. no mind, no honor, no conscience.
I hope you will die there under the roar of our Topol-M warheads.

Yes, you, like a blunt-headed ram, will be driven away by a whip from a smelly trough to give other rams a chance to get drunk, what are you going to do? Will you die of hunger, or will you push the sheep neighbors? Choose ...

[Joker]

Oh, how I turned it around, with your insults you only show the level of your ignorance. I owe it not to you with my life, but to my grandfathers who fought for my future.
With pleasure and I’ll leave, only I have business so far here

[SIA]

Please tell me, is this the meaning of human life? Why is a person born into the world in order to fight? Serve someone? Hobble?
I don’t need such a life, I was born in order to live life with dignity, so that when I died I had something to remember, some bright moments of my life. So that I know that my children will not ask for alms on the street, they will not need anything. At the same time, I do not want to recall some kind of war between animals, about the fact that some uncle billionaire considers himself a god on earth and interferes with my personal life. I want to live it so that there is as much light as possible in my life. And by no means in a society of ill-mannered, uncultured, immoral, thumping and omnipresent animals that only think about some kind of war and constantly envy everyone and everything, because nothing happens in their gray life. From the fact that I was born on a piece of land called Russia, now I owe something to someone? It turns out I was born a slave to a moronic state that came up with a society to which I now owe something, although I did not receive anything from it in return. If there is a war, I must defend this state, WHY? Then what is so customary in the society to which I owe, I, as a slave of my state, should give my life so that there live people whom I do not even know and who never did anything for me. Yes, it’s necessary, I’ll gather all my relatives and go where there is no war, my state is where my family is. A house, land is a secondary matter, I was not born to be a slave to society. I live for myself and not for anyone.
Go and rush under the train, jump from a high bridge into the water, go and hang yourself on a high pine. but you will not owe anything to anyone.
honestly. Clearly the roof is out of order.

[Joker]

Justify, insulting a special mind is not necessary. If you are a slave, then this is your choice, serve your rest of your life.

[KASKAD]

Quote: SVV

Go and rush under the train, jump from a high bridge into the water, go and hang yourself on a high pine. but you will not owe anything to anyone.
honestly. Clearly the roof is out of order.

And I think you have problems with the roof ...

[zero]

As always, it came down to mutual insults ..
It started like a piece of equipment. The movie is pure Hollywood, patriotic and beautiful, designed specifically for 17-year-old boys. IMHO: Pindos, no doubt, everything is beautiful, but imagine a supply of batteries for all this computer shit. It’s just that they don’t have a calculation for long autonomous military operations, any of their action is a day (according to plan), then for a turntable and home. Hence the variety of weapons and equipment (robots (electric!), Six-wheeled carts, etc.) And with us? There is, in fact, infantry (whatever you call it) and special units. You have rations for a certain number of days and BC for an hour of battle, so go and complete the task (exaggerate). And what is characteristic, after all, if you do it, where to go? )))
2 Joker: you have a grandfather with a grandmother where were in WWII? Also, perhaps, pulled to hell? Maybe they also paid someone away for evacuation, but rations are fatter?

[Joker]

They fought against the Nazis. You do not confuse genocide and modern war, then either we were them, or they were us. And now they are fighting against the government.

[Alexei]

Zero, the most adequate commentary on the topic, keep the tag and plus)

[SIA]

Quote: KASKAD

And I think you have problems with the roof ...

Well, it only seems to you. I just never really understood people like joker. It turns out to anyone and does not owe or owe anything. Our fathers and grandfathers did not think so. It was necessary to go and defend the Motherland, they went and defended without further questions.

[Joker]

1-read the comments above.
2-yes, I don’t owe anything to anyone, if half of my city is killed in the war (God forbid, of course) it will be somehow parallel to me, these people made their own choice, decided to fight, fight.
For me, the main thing is my family and people close to me, I did not spit on the others from the high bell tower.

[Atlz]

There is a state, and there is a Homeland. The place where we are born, we live and die. The homeland is my own. And for it I am ready to give my life in spite of any governments, the state owes or does not owe me a favor. Not a place colors a person, but man is a place. If you tremble, if you think you owe nothing to anyone, you just (****). Vali ...

[Joker]

Well, this is your opinion, but mine is different and due to the fact that my opinion differs from yours, you decided to insult me, am I campaigning for someone? You have your own head on your shoulders and think how to do it right for you, and I will think with my own head. I'm not going to adapt to anyone, I'm sorry. So you say get out of here, huh? But look at it on the other hand, am I interfering with someone, getting into someone’s personal life, agitating someone? I live on my own, communicate with people who share my views, does it hurt you or something? Or do you want everyone to be your clones and think the same way you do? This will not happen, do not dream, there are many people on the planet who live and not everyone has the same opinion, that’s why you’ve got a head and brains. And with your insults you only confirm once again the correctness of my statements about the fact that people in Russia are uncultured. Read a book on cultural studies, it will come in handy in life, you look and your wife will be proud that she has a cultured husband.

[Alexei]

Do not be shy for the kindly fatherland ...
I brought enough Russian people,
He took this railroad
He will bear everything that the Lord sends!

It will endure everything - and broad, clear
Breast pave the way for yourself!


Nekrasov wrote about a great people, not like the Joker and Cascade, whose thoughts are limited only by problems.

[Joker]

Do not make of those who want a normal life enemies of the state. Each person has his own goal in life and he strives for it.

[Alexei]

And I don’t make enemies out of you, it’s just sometimes necessary to think at least about something other than your bare ass.

[Joker]

And I’m not naked to think about him

[KASKAD]

Quote: Alexej

Do not be shy for the kindly fatherland ...
I brought enough Russian people,
He took this railroad
He will bear everything that the Lord sends!

It will endure everything - and broad, clear
Breast pave the way for yourself!


Nekrasov wrote about a great people, not like the Joker and Cascade, whose thoughts are limited only by problems.

Tell about this, he sold Russia in the 90s and continues to steal now,
but I just want me to live in a civilized and rational country and my children to live in dignity.

[Joker]

I'll support your comment.

[Alexei]

Well, duck I podderzhivayu.Dlya, stoby country was such, in addition to "just want" everyone needs to sweat, it is possible that in the war.

[SIA]

Quote: Alexej

In order for the country to be such, apart from "just wanting", everyone needs to sweat, it is possible that in the war.

That is rightly said. I want a lot of things ...

[zero]

2 Joker: it may happen that for a "normal life" (and what is it in a war or genocide?) And you will have to fight. And if you think that running away will solve all your problems, I'm afraid you will have to run for a very long time. For myself, I will say that I will also try to hide (evacuate) my people to a place where it is at least relatively safe, but I’ll take a gun in my hands ...

Alexej, thanks

[patrianostra]

what people are arguing about when exchange amers come to Israel and try to deal with local for some reason ysera conscripts in 100% of cases do this, it is a fact. In aoi, there are not just any electronic gadgets, but the hell of a welcome, the main emphasis is on individual and group preparation for the organization of communication and interaction. and industry does what it needs for the army. the field form of 50 years no one changed. the army is constantly improving. service mode is built like this 3 months training 3 months military service and so on

[dred]

A multidisciplinary computer would be our specialists.

[bishopXhc]

Fur seals are a division of the fleet. Marine Corps