New Weapon for Sea Seals USA

New Weapon for Sea Seals USA



"Sea Fur Seals" - US Marine Special Forces - constantly equip the most intricate types weapons and devices for effective combat. Here are just some of those that are in service with the Navy SEAL, see firearms catalog.

Combat knife 150BKSN Marc Lee "Glory"



This knife is dedicated to Mark Alan Lee, the first of the American "seals" who died in Iraq. The 154 millimeter blade made of heavy-duty stainless steel sits on a brown corrugated handle, very comfortable for the hand.

LaRue Assault Rifle



The LaRue 7.62 caliber mm rifle has excellent parameters for carrying out the most difficult special operations: the weight is just over 4 kilograms, striking the 1100 distance, meters, a special device for withdrawing gases from the special forces person after firing, alternating trunks of different lengths. An improved barrel ventilation system prevents the rifle from overheating during intense combat.

Also, using advanced technologies, the newest accessories for the M4 submachine gun have been developed, which increase convenience when shooting.



Build "all in one"



This is not a child's toy at all. All US military personnel in Iraq or Afghanistan use the Gerber Multi-Plier 600 fixture. This gadget helps the soldier and the officer to conduct combat operations with maximum efficiency. It is difficult to enumerate all the operations that are subject to the "mites", starting with snacking on simple barbed wire and ending with the decontamination of cunning explosive devices.

Radio and human skull

"Kittens" need modern and powerful means of communication no less than in reliable weapons. For US special forces, a fundamentally new device has been developed, which, unlike the old ones, communicates not through the ear canal, but through ... the bones of the skull. The incoming signal is fed to the audio transducer, which is fixed near the ear, and then through the facial bone is fed into the inner ear of a person.

Multidisciplinary computer



The electronic modulated tactical system MTS C4ISTAR allows the operator to very quickly remove data from the computer and immediately go to the fighting. It only takes a few seconds. It is possible to work with it both during a sandstorm, and in a torrential rain. Special protection will not allow the enemy to electronically fix the location of the computer and the operator. But she may need computer help.

Finally, the uniform

The special Arc'teryx jumpsuit is named after an ancient flying reptile. It is designed in such a way that the cat, who has put it on, can perform a variety of combat missions.
Originator:
http://mport.bigmir.net
Photos used:
Foxnews.com, LaRue.com
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  1. Ion coaelung
    Ion coaelung 27 October 2011 10: 56 New
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    Beautiful, but functional? The feeling that more designers than engineers work in the US military-industrial complex.
    1. Tjumenec72
      Tjumenec72 28 October 2011 08: 34 New
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      They have designers and engineers in place, and these rattles are more than once tested in real conditions.
      Money is allocated more (they steal no less as a percentage, it looks like the current is different, therefore there is enough left for the army) and they fight regularly.
      BUT in my opinion it is more likely for a movie, painfully ingenious contraption.
      A well and properly trained fighter is expensive, much more expensive than these things.
      For it is not the weapon that determines the outcome, but the man. Weapons are tools that complement professional skills.

      A group of poetsanchigov will fully work out this team with “calculators”
      1. Joker 28 October 2011 08: 44 New
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        What are you based on when you say this?
        I think that in the photo a normal discharge would not hurt, and I think they would not refuse multitool.
        1. Tjumenec72
          Tjumenec72 28 October 2011 10: 31 New
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          I'm not talking about clothes, but about the one who is in it)
          Then, from the defeated adversary, he “mocks” if something is missing in uniform)
          Americans teach their fighters to rely very heavily on trinkets - this is already a thingism (this is the basis for the uniform business for them). Should be minimally enough.

          Joker - I suppose you are a hunter, and of those who invest heavily in trinkets: - a lot of blame, a collimator, a lump, GPS, etc. And the result is not higher than that of a grandfather with an old shotgun. Of course, the main “pleasure” of the process (this is the Pindos).
          1. Joker 28 October 2011 10: 58 New
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            If we compare the hunter with trinkets and the grandfather with a double-barreled shotgun, the result will be of course approximately the same, the grandfather will lag behind a little bit because the grandfather cannot look through his glasses like through a thermal imager, and the grandfather will not deliver micro-video cameras. BUT, a US soldier is a grandfather with trinkets. You must admit that Americans have much more military experience than our soldiers who fought for the last time for a long time. And they are trained better than ours, they are studying there, rather than marching and peeling potatoes, which takes our soldier 90% of his training time. I think our specialists would not refuse if their experience was supported by even the latest technologies and modern weapons. The Bertsa are not Russian-made in the photo and almost do not have knee pads. These are trifles of course, but what kind of bonus do they give during special operations, right? When you have comfortable clothes, convenient and thoughtful unloading, walkie-talkies with active headphones for everyone, it seems to me that this increases the chances of completing the task, because the human ear can not hear what microphones in active headphones hear, clothes made of quick-drying materials will allow you to be less distracted, knee pads let you fall on broken glass fragments and on a hard surface. I don’t tell everyone to carry a computer with them, but there should be one person on 10, as in some situations it will save the lives of these soldiers, for example by warning them that they are surrounded. Walkie-talkies will allow you to coordinate the actions of fighters in the group, will provide important information. Look at the AK with which our specialists go, they are all equipped with handles for transferring fire, collimators and new butts, because it’s more convenient, you must agree to bring the front sight and rear sight longer than to look into the collimator where the bullet’s point of contact glows and does not even change its position if you look at an angle.
            All this allows you to better act and fulfill the task, can also save the life of our soldier. An ordinary soldier, besides a lump, is not new, but what? An automatic machine, a couple of horns for it, a bronik from the times of the USSR, which weighs 15 kg. and that’s it. It is necessary to equip everyone with at least walkie-talkies with headphones, unloadings, comfortable berets and, if possible, NVD. Since our probable opponent is the United States, and they fight mainly at night, since they are all with PNV, which gives them a huge advantage. Our lighting missiles do not even give. Pros can certainly fight with a musket, but they are pros, our army does not consist of them.
            1. Tjumenec72
              Tjumenec72 28 October 2011 12: 44 New
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              We don’t argue about the lack of harness in the troops, but we are talking about specialists! They have a choice, albeit not a big one, but they have.
              You did not understand the main message, I SPEAK ABOUT THINGS! Do you think the Pindo lads themselves decide what to wear and what to poke at the enemy? - But no, manufacturers have a very strong influence (or rather, the generals that lobby them). Do you think for specialists presentations of the new "device" (trunk) do not hold? Specialists are people too and are subject to marketing tricks (specific marketing for them), after which they carry out “raids” to the corresponding stores. Look how much their rifles cost! The price-quality ratio is clearly violated and towards the price.
              Well, yes, of course, we get the unique abilities of a new harness! Like they need to evolve and fit these ideas into battle tactics. Only now is it done that would cut the dough, and only then to increase combat capabilities.
              WHERE IS THE PROFIT OF CONSCIENCE NO PLACE!
            2. prunx
              prunx 28 October 2011 14: 04 New
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              I agree with a lot. Collimators are certainly a pleasant thing, but it all depends on the qualification of a fighter, for ordinary soldiers it is. I know an uncle who served in the special forces for more than ten years. When he was trained in shooting, the instructors said that a refined skill and developed feelings would achieve fantastic results. These instructors were trained by SMERSH veterans. Seeing how well they shoot, he ceased to be afraid that they would hit him (they were constantly fired upon, this is necessary in order to determine by the sound from where they were shooting, at you or not), but they usually shot from the AKM hanging from the shoulder, from the hip, not bothering to aim through the front sight, fountains from bullets exploded right under your feet. Through the front sight from fifty meters they could hit the left or right eye, of your choice, with one shot to the vskidku, or the cap is removed, with any standard weapon))) I do not think that he greatly exaggerated. And why do such specialists need sights? If only to shoot long distances. This is what concerns the special forces.
      2. Uncle Sam
        Uncle Sam 28 October 2011 18: 50 New
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        you took the wrong picture for the avatar, take the one where the mummer is in cadaveric spots and traces of shoes on his face
        1. Tjumenec72
          Tjumenec72 29 October 2011 14: 55 New
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          I'd rather look for a picture of Obama with an unhealthy face)
      3. Nova 28 October 2011 19: 27 New
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        Why is there such a strange uniform color? Very large pixel? But seriously - why without camouflage?
        1. roninas 11 February 2012 21: 53 New
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          This is a "hill", the unofficial uniform of the special forces of Russia. Because it is much more convenient and practical than what the Ministry of Defense gives them
      4. nickname bj
        nickname bj 28 October 2011 20: 48 New
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        No, a weapon is not a “complement of a soldier" .. It is his tool. And the better the tool, the better the soldier will be able to complete the task ...
        And you have an erroneous "Japanese" attitude towards weapons ..
      5. KASKAD
        KASKAD 29 October 2011 00: 08 New
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        In 2001, the Americans, in their clothes of this kind, dressed 60000 forces by 300 delta fighters and drones and overthrew the power in the country and seized the capital and all this in 90 days without losses from the American side.
        So much for the difference between the party games and the team with “calculators”
        1. roninas 11 February 2012 22: 02 New
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          What kind of stupidity are you writing kaskad once again? Where, who, in which country ???? What kind of fighter (judging by the Alpha equipment) may have something to do with your mystical ones (this is the second time I’ve told you this bike from you I’m reading this forum) 60000 thousand ??? By the way, "such" Amin’s palace took the amount of 50 vs 2000, AND THIS IS FACT
      6. kosmos84 29 October 2011 00: 32 New
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        THESE KNEADS ARE WEATHER!
        1. PSih2097 29 October 2011 00: 38 New
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          THESE KNEADS ARE WEATHER!

          For fun, get on your knees on the asphalt, see what happens to your trousers and knees ... the same goes for the elbows ...
          1. kosmos84 29 October 2011 00: 46 New
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            IN CHILDHOOD FROM GREAT, FALLED (EVERYTHING IS IN BLOOD! - STAND UP AND RID! -A Pindos fell ---- PANIC
            1. PSih2097 29 October 2011 01: 11 New
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              I drove too, fell, drove to my parents on the verge of fainting, and there fell ... a low pain threshold ... Education of the USSR ...
              for a moment, because of a broken knee, they call an ambulance ...
              1. kosmos84 29 October 2011 01: 25 New
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                YOUNGER BROTHER (CH 3 WEEK IN AMUHU FROM GREAT Fell? (CUT ON THE LANGET, DIDN'T ACRY!)) TODAY YOU HAVE YOURSELF WITH YOUR CRUISE HAM, DON'T GIVE ANY FRIEND!
      7. dmitri077
        dmitri077 28 January 2012 23: 23 New
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        “A group of poetsanchigos will fully work out this team with“ calculators ”” - such as you woe — professionals must be treated ... figure out who you posted first, and then compose your tales ... “calculator” is walking
    2. Tjumenec72
      Tjumenec72 28 October 2011 15: 53 New
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      The main thing here is not to overdo it)))
    3. dmitri077
      dmitri077 28 January 2012 23: 21 New
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      "Nice, but functional? The feeling that more designers than engineers work in the US military." - you can’t even imagine how much everything that these monsters of special operations possess is functional! ...
  2. datur 27 October 2011 11: 53 New
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    Yes, we must pay tribute to the Pindos - they are working hard to make ji ah work out their money
  3. SIA
    SIA 27 October 2011 11: 59 New
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    Soon they will be electronic all their bells and whistles in a cart.
    1. Eric
      Eric 28 October 2011 11: 36 New
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      Ahahahaha is definitely noticed! :)
      1. prunx
        prunx 28 October 2011 14: 08 New
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        They invent robots that will carry all the soldier's luggage.
        1. Alexei 1 November 2011 21: 23 New
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          Ahaha /! I’m lying around ... under the table .. Who at least stupid minuses instructed you?)))))
    2. dmitri077
      dmitri077 28 January 2012 23: 26 New
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      "They will soon all their bells and whistles electronic, in a cart will carry." - Do you rent a cart in the Russian army? lol
  4. rumpeljschtizhen 27 October 2011 12: 12 New
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    Beautiful, but functional?

    Of course, all this is g.v.better than a t-shirt and thing bag ... (Sarcasm)
    They checked it all in real combat.
    1. sambiz163
      sambiz163 27 October 2011 13: 21 New
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      But can you clarify in a battle with whom?
      the battle was probably with the partisans who went on carpet bombing for 3 weeks, and the partisans were armed with a 19th-century karamultuk. and in general they just went down the mountain :)

      it would be interesting to see how they and their gadgets will crawl through swamps when self-propelled guns will work on them when conducting electronic warfare from the enemy and everything will be in full air in the air
      1. Yves762 28 October 2011 09: 31 New
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        Doubts take that they will have to fight with whom the thread will be, except with assassins .... my partisans: almost all the enemies have self-destructed.
      2. Lieutenant colonel 31 October 2011 06: 20 New
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        You are hinting at us. Look at the gracious jumble - "there are no EWs, and whoever says this is the director of the defense ministry." And the twenty best helicopters in the world (decide for yourself which mi or ka) will not be able to bring down a bunch of not very good Apaches. The crews flew from Torzh to the East 2010 exercises. so they will go to fight. And about the swamps - they have already used it. At 41, slush and winter also helped us a little, but at 42 it wasn’t very much (although much depended on them, weather conditions). In our g ,,,,,,,, vah, in 2000, I lost the sole in the Mozdok plate for 10 days of my stay. And in the American with .... ka bots in the period from 2003 to 2005 he stomped and neither of which, still standing at home. And leave the phrases to work self-propelled guns and crush electronic warfare leave for housewives. If you are a little versed in the issue - self-propelled guns do not work but are firing to destroy or defeat. But this is the terminology. And whoever taught the self-propelled guns to fire - they thought. Who will drive the truck, who will fix the car (tractor)? To teach the infantryman to bullet even from English, etc. rifles are not difficult. The army destroyed the foundations - special training (not to be confused with special forces, etc.). Specialty training. Nah, of course you can perform tasks not by full calculation (by the crew). it is possible even in summer hb at 35-, but how long. It’s even possible without communication, so on the thumb - for a long time. 50-100 of the latest takons (airplanes, parades, etc.) will not even be in a position. The sovereign does not need an army, he needs a police. For this, let me bow down for I’ll start calling for a riot, and for this we have ,,,,,,,,,,)))))))
      3. dmitri077
        dmitri077 28 January 2012 23: 28 New
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        "it would be interesting to see how they and their gadgets will crawl through swamps when self-propelled guns will work on them when conducting electronic warfare from the enemy and everything will be in full swing in the air" - aren't you a pilot? lol not yet created such an army
  5. Joker 27 October 2011 12: 23 New
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    Well, as far as I know, they check this in real conditions before taking something into service, that is, in Iraq, etc.
    Therefore, I think if accepted, it means functionally and better than what it was before.
  6. Gosta
    Gosta 27 October 2011 12: 39 New
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    Our sheepskin coats are still cooler wink
  7. rumpeljschtizhen 27 October 2011 13: 40 New
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    dear sambiz163 differences between Amer from our army that they do equipment for the tasks they face ..... at the moment it’s a guerrilla war ..... our army is faced with the same threats in the North Caucasus ..... and compare their equipment .
    1. PSih2097 28 October 2011 23: 45 New
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      our army is faced with the same threats in the North Caucasus ..... and compare their equipment

      we have light armor up to 5 kg holding 5.45 ??? give a link ...
      Of the unloadings, only an otter 3m or a mall - but this is already the west ...
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        Well why .... there is a Som "-M32PKhT, and others, I'm talking about unloading
    2. dmitri077
      dmitri077 28 January 2012 23: 30 New
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      "The differences between Amer and our army are that they make equipment for the tasks they face .." - for sure, and this is the main thing! for specific tasks, but not for all occasions, like ours! therefore everything works super-efficiently
  8. Maksim
    Maksim 27 October 2011 14: 06 New
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    The new weapon for US fur seals is fu, what a shame two knives, and a rifled crap.
    1. Maksim
      Maksim 29 October 2011 04: 55 New
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      I don’t know about you, but I have (in my opinion these are better) Army knife of survival HB-1 Basurmanin and Knife of the Scout Shooting NRS-2.
      1. Joker 29 October 2011 10: 18 New
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        Well, as far as I know, a firearm is prohibited in Russia, and LDC-2 and I are a firearm.
  9. sambiz163
    sambiz163 27 October 2011 14: 06 New
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    if it weren’t for the army to interfere with the military tasks of politics, then in the North Caucasus peace and order would have been without gadgets for a long time.
    and the fact that the sophisticated calculator screwed to the helmet will work in mountainous conditions under changing weather conditions is still a big question the same applies to weapons.
    By the way, they don’t do equipment for tasks, but under contracts from the Ministry of Defense
    A typical example of the competition between Bing and Lockhead for a multi-purpose aircraft when the main criteria were the cost and timeliness of the prototype to 12-00 specific for.
    1. Joker 27 October 2011 16: 07 New
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      We always and in everything feel the hand of the omnipotent West, the head hurts after drinking, because the West is to blame.
    2. Uncle Sam
      Uncle Sam 28 October 2011 18: 54 New
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      bad dancer and eggs interfere
      unprofessionalism around, and in the Caucasus he stuck out in all the cracks, I know firsthand
    3. Lieutenant colonel 31 October 2011 06: 25 New
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      Fatigue is that their calculator works, ours is not. And all appeals to the Scientific Research Institute of Mechanical Engineering, an electronically controlled institute, remain somewhere in the ballot box.
      And about would not interfere with both hands for.
  10. Joker 27 October 2011 14: 27 New
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    When I added this article, I knew in advance that all sorts of room patriots who had never shot this weapon themselves in their lives would comment on it. But for that, with foam at the mouth they will prove that our shovels are cooler, and the Americans, as always, are fools. There will be a Russia-USA war, and I think it will be soon, just in real life and it will be checked whether it is necessary or not, but for now it is not necessary to shake the air once again with its empty comments. This article primarily carries information in itself, and not an excuse for stupid statements.
    1. vrag
      vrag 27 October 2011 15: 45 New
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      exactly "room patriots"
    2. LESHA pancake
      LESHA pancake 27 October 2011 16: 23 New
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      SO THERE FROM WHERE THE WIND IS BLOWING - FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF THE USA. (PRAISE ALL Pindosovsky)
      1. Joker 27 October 2011 17: 04 New
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        We do not praise, but discuss, I would like our soldiers to be equipped in the same way.
      2. Uncle Sam
        Uncle Sam 28 October 2011 18: 55 New
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        and from your comments farts steam
      3. Lieutenant colonel 31 October 2011 06: 34 New
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        Do not foam LEHOHA, 20 years gave MO RF. I have a bunch of rewards and penalties not lifted. BIG hemorrhoids and two concussions. Dismissed in 2010 as a person on the separating face of Moscow Region. You need to know the enemy. And you need to know what he has and what it can do (by the way, the pendos took a lot from the system of preparing the Soviet troops - not to be confused with the Russian). A small example, they have the JISAK HAND (now they already have its modernization with a different name). There is an air and ground segment in the HAND; in the ground segment there is a system of deployment, guidance, and fire destruction. So with the intelligence segment there is a good car hammer with a certain system - its destruction leads to the failure of the system for 1 hour 20 minutes. So - Hammer is a good car. But the whole system is not very. I hope I did not really praise the state dep.
    3. sambiz163
      sambiz163 27 October 2011 17: 17 New
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      dear joker
      Before you inadvertently throw phrases such as "room patriots", learn to write material on the mat. Part of how PSih2097 does it (5+ for the presentation) it’s nice to read a person who once held a weapon in his hands
      Well, if you wanted to convey information to a reputable community
      1. Joker 27 October 2011 17: 25 New
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        You claim that he at least held Western-made weapons in his hands and used their gadgets? For some reason, it seems to me that he has never seen them. From myself, I can say the following: if they knew how to fight, then, in spite of any obstacles, they would have won in the Caucasus. Know how to admit your mistakes and stop ultimately blaming the West for all your troubles. Let's start with ourselves, we’ll solve our problems, and when everything around us smells like violets, then we’ll take up the West.
        1. Alexey Prikazchikov
          Alexey Prikazchikov 28 October 2011 00: 01 New
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          AND YOU HAVE HANDED THEM THROUGH IF THERE IS NOT WHICH ANYONE RIDES AT ALL, NO ONE DENIES THAT THIS EQUIPMENT IS VERY NEEDED AND CAN SAVE LOTS OF LIFE BUT IT DOESN'T HELP DIFFERENTLY.
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          About the ability to fight. Our just know how to fight, as, in principle, and amers, about amers you yourself constantly affirm. But if you pay attention to the latest military conflicts, the amers have not won anywhere else. Compare the Caucasus and Iraq, Afghanistan. The results are similar except that ours is also recovering.
    4. Zerkalo 27 October 2011 20: 03 New
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      As it has become customary, all these gadgets are needed and they are perfectly used. fortunately, they can and create conditions for themselves that there was no self-propelled guns operating on them in the swamp, no counteraction from the enemy’s electronic warfare, and satellites always and all of them function.
      It is clear that in the event of a real world war, the satellites will first of all incapacitate, but their analysts are just too strong to do what is profitable for them and to prevent such a development.
    5. KASKAD
      KASKAD 28 October 2011 00: 57 New
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      They don’t even know what they’re trying to hold in their hands Glock and GSh18,
      and you’ll understand how far behind we are if Glock is made with an accuracy of up to 0,01 mm, then our GSH with an accuracy of up to 2 mm, if you take into account ergonomics, the reliability of the quality of materials and coatings is just colossal, for example, scratches on bluing are tightened on Glock, I was shocked when it I saw that before GS, when you take it in your hands it seems that it is not the factory that makes it, but the drunken turner Petya, the tolerances are so high and the production materials are so wretched as his two-row store is wretched without rebuilding in one row (as in normal weapons systems ) it’s possible to continue for a very long time, but I want to convey the meaning that our production base and soviet designers are not able to make even the slightest competition in the production of weapons and ammunition, do not have illusions that we are ahead of the rest and tear our shirt off shouting that : "I shot from Mosinka about how he shies that there is some kind of M16."
      It’s very difficult to build up a sports uniform for a long time, and you can lose everything in one moment, and the years 80-90 began.
      1. Yves762 28 October 2011 09: 52 New
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        There is no bazaar: the quality of performance affects! BUT! low tolerances sometimes badly affect reliability (especially in the field, and the same M-16 proved this). Understand correctly: if you are on the side of pendos with beer and hamburgers, then you will not think much about reliability. If you are on the side, let’s say partisans (otherwise it will be different for Russian patriots in the event of a direct conflict with the West and the East, how the card will fall), then the reliability WILL be decided. I hope the idea is clear ....
        Further, the trouble is not in the designers, but in production, standards, etc. in "management".
        1. KASKAD
          KASKAD 28 October 2011 14: 07 New
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          if it’s a matter of “management”, and the designers are brilliant, then why the hell do they make a two-row magazine on a new gun, although such a magazine proved its fallacy by constant wedges and distortions in the supply of cartridges, the whole world has understood this since the 70s and does not let out such, but “management” presses on our designers and they don’t want to do reasonable and logical things because of this?
      2. dmitri077
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        “It’s very difficult to build up a sports uniform for a long time, and you can lose everything in one moment, and the years 80-90 began.” - absolutely for sure! But we are constantly popping into our ears that we are in no way inferior, and in some ways even surpassing the enemy ... due to what and to whom such a mega-breakthrough was made? how much can your people already hold for suckers? ...
  11. Gosta
    Gosta 27 October 2011 14: 29 New
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    Thank you for the article, the author is credited, at least something can be read normal, and not just constant whining as we feel bad, but how we throw all the hats.
  12. Hannibal
    Hannibal 27 October 2011 14: 32 New
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    Yes, all the same, as far as the arming of soldiers is, it is far from us to the Americans and unfortunately there are not even any movements in this direction and are not expected sad
    1. prunx
      prunx 28 October 2011 14: 22 New
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      So it is not and is not expected?
      1. KASKAD
        KASKAD 28 October 2011 14: 34 New
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        exactly ....................
  13. Yves762 27 October 2011 14: 51 New
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    5.56 * 45 LaRue rifle under the Belgian SS109 cartridge. fellow
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      The LaRue OBR PredatAR semi-automatic rifles in 7,62 and 5,56 NATO caliber are designed for those who are looking for a light, reliable and accurate rifle to protect their homes, sports or hunting. Compared to previous models (OBR Tactical rifles), the new models are comparatively lighter. This was done due to the contouring of the barrel, simplification of the guide for sights, giving the barrel pad a “skeletonized” shape, as well as the use of a low-profile gas vent. Rifles are available with two barrel options - 406 and 457 mm long. The barrel is made of stainless steel brand LW-50 with a pitch of rifling 286 mm (rifle in caliber 7,62 mm) or 203 mm (5,56 mm). Picatinny rail is mounted along the entire length of the receiver. There is also the possibility of installing a guide on the sides of the barrel and under it. 6-position butt and fire control handle - manufactured by Magpul. The trigger is with a warning, such as a Geissele.

      TECH SPECS

      OBR PredatAR 7,62
      Caliber: 7,62 mm NATO
      Barrel length: 406 or 457 mm
      Rifling pitch: 286 mm
      Store capacity: 20 cartridges
      Weight unloaded: 3,9 kg

      OBR PredatAR 5,56
      Caliber: 5,56 mm NATO
      Barrel length: 406 or 457 mm
      Rifling pitch: 203 mm
      Store capacity: 30 cartridges
      Weight unloaded: 2,9 kg
  14. SIA
    SIA 27 October 2011 15: 58 New
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    That OS flies in their gadgets, what will they do then? They are not able to wage a guerrilla war, without fresh toilet paper, they will not go on the attack.
    1. Joker 27 October 2011 16: 06 New
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      Do not worry, it will not fly, but if it flies, they will deliver another. They take care of their soldiers.
      1. SIA
        SIA 27 October 2011 16: 10 New
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        You would say that about our soldiers.
        1. Joker 27 October 2011 16: 19 New
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          I’d like to say it with pleasure, but it has long been the case with us that in Russia soldier cannon fodder.
          We would have been shaking for every soldier, we would have given out normal uniforms and weapons not from the time of the USSR, I would have been just happy.
          You know, I think these computers would be of great help to our soldiers, you can get information about the enemy’s location on them, see where your comrades are located, receive tasks on them and correct the location of subordinates.
          And unfortunately we even have one radio on 20 people.
          1. kostiknet 27 October 2011 16: 38 New
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            Joker, I’d like to say it with pleasure, only for a long time it happened to us that soldier cannon fodder in Russia.
            We would have been shaking for every soldier, we would have given out normal uniforms and weapons not from the time of the USSR, I would have been just happy.
            In 1994, “raiders” were gathered at our garrison (Strategic Rocket Forces), sent to the unit where they formed a consolidated bat. There, they fired a couple of times from Kalash and left the whole crowd in Chechnya. The guys wrote that about 20 people survived the first night fight (it was a long time ago, I don’t remember exactly). Curiously, in 2011, fighters are also “cherished”, or has something changed? About weapons - they drove the BTR-60 to the “blocks” (they showed pictures in the company), and where did they dig this stuff?
            1. PSih2097 27 October 2011 16: 51 New
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              About weapons - they drove the BTR-60 to the “blocks” (they showed pictures in the company), and where did they dig this stuff?

              Since conservation, probably, there are many of them left, since the Soviet era.
              1. Foamas 27 October 2011 18: 36 New
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                And why is the BTR-60PB bad? (especially since being at a checkpoint as a firing point), because it is radically worse than BTR-70,80 weapons and armor are the same.
                1. Uncle Sam
                  Uncle Sam 28 October 2011 19: 00 New
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                  there dviglo gasoline
                2. Joker
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                  Foamas

                  The BTR-60 has the weakest armor of this family, when compared with the 80th, the elevation angle of the machine gun is also smaller, and the petrol engine (as already written here), the landing and exit hatches are less convenient.

                  I agree as a firing point, and even if there is no difference in sandbags.
            2. Joker 27 October 2011 17: 16 New
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              Yes, to be honest, it seems to me that something has hardly changed, it is only now that they have begun to purchase equipment. Our specialists are dressed in all overseas and with AN-94 like.
              But it’s unlikely that you can win a war by pure specialists, our planes are a little worse than the United States (we are waiting for the t-50), our helicopters are much better than what the X-NUMX is, tanks are worse, we have better BMPs (my personal opinion). This, again, if we compare by the stand, it’s just that we don’t get much from the stand, and if it does, it’s in limited quantities. If you want to buy the most in the army and so that it doesn’t stand in the garages and equip the soldiers properly, then the 52 Americans will think about it before they reach us. But so far this is not ... Again, the soldiers ’skills need to be improved, not with outfits and tidying, but with shooting and tactical exercises. + In cities, a couple of times a year, exercises can be carried out with the involvement of young people. Finally, it’s normal to shoot films about the military so that children watch and take pride in their country. And now that the cop-bribe takers, military bribe takers and assassins show, after such films children are already distrustful of all.
              First, I believe that patriotism in the country should be developed, without it, nowhere.
              1. kesa1111
                kesa1111 28 October 2011 21: 27 New
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                Patriotism is a quality inherent in a normal person if he lives in a normal country. Let's make the youth have something to be proud of and a desire to protect such a country. Thieves and corrupt officials from films are not as scary as they are real. Now, on the contrary, everything is fine in the cinema and on TV, but it's worth going outside .... I have heard from young people more than once - that let the Abramovichs and Putinovichs fight for themselves. Too often they hear: to be silent cattle, it will do for you anyway. In Russian: patriotism is not muscle, it will not work.
    2. Tolia
      Tolia 28 October 2011 00: 24 New
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      Where did they get it? Those who dealt with them speak respectfully of them ... or fairy tales of political instructors who just can’t do anything and are incapable of anything, so pleasantly caress the hearing and give themselves self-affirmation?
      1. PSih2097 28 October 2011 00: 45 New
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        Those who dealt with them speak respectfully of them ...

        they are either in non-disclosure subscriptions “like a flea’s fool”, or they’re not there ... plus all cases and operations carry a signature stamp of secret or state secret ...
    3. Uncle Sam
      Uncle Sam 28 October 2011 18: 59 New
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      guerrilla warfare, green berets teach rebels around the world, and they have no equal.
    4. dmitri077
      dmitri077 28 January 2012 23: 38 New
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      "without fresh toilet paper, they won’t attack." - What nonsense is this? What were you standing next to? where so exclusive? always pulls on poop wink they haven’t been attacking for a long time .. the Predator will fly in and on the tip of the specialists will spread the excrement of those who disagree on the local stones ... that’s all ... the observer damn
  15. PSih2097 27 October 2011 16: 17 New
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    And as for the gadgets, I think everyone will agree that the soldier needs the knife, the multitool is needed, the optics are desirable, the armor with the discharge are needed, the shoes are needed, the connection is needed, if you list, then a lot is needed and desirable at the expense of the state, and not for his own. This MO can give out with a bang - that we (MO) have changed the army, but what - it remains in question ...
    1. KASKAD
      KASKAD 28 October 2011 01: 11 New
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      By the way, I drove the military American Multitools here TTX:

      - Black oxidized coating.
      - Replaceable tungsten carbide inserts for side cutters (when blunting one face of a triangular insert, it is easy to turn over to a new face in the field).
      - Case included (under the molly, the belt will also work).

      - Each tool is fixed with a lock, the locking mechanism is patented, does not become loose over time.
      - The opening mechanism is made in such a way that without difficulty it is possible to open the passages with one hand, the mechanism is patented (in case the second hand is occupied or injured).
      - There is a serreytorny knife
      Lightweight durable comfortable without much frills, in general, the workpiece is army-quality and solid.
      The sharpened sharpened while uncoiling twice almost nearly cut slightly by touching the blade of the knife and saw.
      1. PSih2097 28 October 2011 01: 23 New
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        I took this to myself:


        1. KASKAD
          KASKAD 28 October 2011 01: 42 New
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          And here are mine







          http://ohotaclub.ru/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=230
          I bet mine is easier.
        2. Joker
          Joker 28 October 2011 01: 44 New
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          Our analogue:

          Knife multifunctional Minesweeper (Sweep-3)
          1. KASKAD
            KASKAD 28 October 2011 02: 11 New
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            Herrase I do not vkurse guys wink
          2. Joker 28 October 2011 08: 21 New
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            It would have been wonderful if the soldiers were given this.
            1. KASKAD
              KASKAD 28 October 2011 15: 09 New
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              Yes, it is of low quality metal and does not meet military standards
          3. Joker
            Joker 3 November 2011 01: 04 New
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            And why did the deer fly? This universal knife is a fact, like it or not, and even though it is limited, it enters the troops (according to my information).
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              ereke 3 November 2011 01: 28 New
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              I plus, Knife as universal is good. If the Russian Federation, there are people who do this. In general, the minuses are somehow put here, not from the constructiveness or destructiveness of the cement. And for some other reasons)) Well, nothing the Joker called himself a load, climb into the basket as they say Yes. Or go to the end, as one here said to me, the Cons do not affect your life. And inappropriately bend under all))
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                Joker 3 November 2011 14: 11 New
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                Thank you, I simply could not resist the temptation to name a certain category of oligophrenics as deer.
  16. SIA
    SIA 27 October 2011 16: 25 New
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    but what - it remains in question ...

    This is the first question. The second question, when did you manage to change clothes, change clothes, rearm?
    1. PSih2097 27 October 2011 16: 32 New
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      The second question, when did you manage to change clothes, change clothes, rearm?

      In figure, haven't everyone changed clothes with new berets models? regarding rearmament - this is to stool
      1. Joker 27 October 2011 17: 03 New
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        By the way, I wanted to ask knowledgeable people a long time ago, it’s kind of dressed up for a figure, but in the pictures on the internet who is dressed like, who is in the old and who is in the new. Again, it’s like they changed the police, but I never saw their new uniform. To berets, to be honest, I did not pay attention.
        By the way, do we have unloading in service? Or does everyone buy them for his own?
        Recently, on the Internet, I saw a lump of our new company’s survival case, they have their own patented colors and materials for molds in America they buy, and the whole kit of molds, well, thousands will come out in 10, if that's all. Here is a link to their site if anyone is interested http://www.survivalcorps.ru
        1. petor41
          petor41 27 October 2011 21: 32 New
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          http://www.airsoftinfo.ru/camos/?camo=75
          http://www.airsoftinfo.ru/camos/?camo=58
          http://www.airsoftinfo.ru/camos/?camo=42

          Look at the links, but in general more often get out from behind a computer and you will see everything with your own eyes! And in general it is a shame that such a major specialist in all matters does not know such basic things!
          1. Joker 27 October 2011 22: 42 New
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            Thanks for the links, but not necessarily rude. About what types of camouflage in the Russian army I know, you do not quite understand what I mean. I asked if the figure was adopted as a single camouflage for all military branches in the Russian Federation? Or is it just in words, and our army will be dressed in old and new lumps? Here is what I asked. Because I often see cadets of military institutes in the field vole, the numbers are colorful, and on the Internet, everyone is dressed who is very much dressed.
            1. petor41
              petor41 28 October 2011 16: 01 New
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              The figure is adopted. I don’t know about all kinds of troops, but for sure in the ground forces! In the internet, just old pictures! Now almost everyone has changed into a new field uniform! I don’t know about unloading, but Alexey Prikazchikov said that he had seen and he really liked it! And the fact that the survival corps shows this camouflage is delivered by the FSB FS, I don’t know everyone, but they go to the Far East like that! This topic about the form has already been erased before the holes, everything that is possible and impossible has already been written about it in previous articles! Everyone has already expressed that the Pindos have better uniforms and equipment, but ours has taken a step forward!
        2. KASKAD
          KASKAD 28 October 2011 01: 28 New
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          The whole form is cursed. It is cold. It fades. It is sewn with rotten threads of Chinese fabric for three pennies. About the survival building, the equipment will cost you 30-40 rubles. It’s cheaper to buy ready-made in the USA and bring it and it will be cheaper! In the USSR in 1991, colonels went to watch American anti-terrorist exercises and saw how the Delta special forces unit storm the captured building, they saw that each soldier had personal protective equipment and communications, and if the commander was injured, he immediately took command of his subordinate, came back to the union and said that we don’t have the equipment for defense and communication for each fighter, they are told here yes we have everything we want to show, they arrived at the design bureau and took a healthy paratrooper, put on him everything that was intended and he could not get out of the chair. The Russian outfit sucks for two reasons: 1. Corruption in the Moscow Region and 2. The reason is not the desire to make a competition between private enterprises such as the survival corps, for example, but they give sewing to convicts or to Ivanovo half-drunk seamstresses who never did anything other than work gloves, and The Ministry of Defense does not conduct any quality control of the ammunition violated in the Armed Forces, and there are no standards for uniforms and ammunition in the United States, and this is why all Russian ammunition weighs 25 kg.
          1. Alexei 28 October 2011 01: 51 New
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            Let me disagree with you. In the assembly, 25 weighed when I served, and it weighed so much because of the bronick. But still, we ran to 10-15 km. It's hard for the first half a year, and then you get used to it) And now what vests? I just not in the know, I don’t teach truths from links.
            1. KASKAD
              KASKAD 28 October 2011 02: 15 New
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              American assembly maximum 8-9kg, I won’t lie, I don’t remember how much exactly but for 15kg exactly.
              And I remembered the barnica assy 36kg !!!!!!!!!!!! that's why the MO refused it from 2000; it was being developed and by 2015 it was to equip troops.
  17. Rawling4851
    Rawling4851 27 October 2011 17: 39 New
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    “Tell the sovereign that the British do not clean their guns with a brick: even if they do not clean them with us, otherwise, God bless the war, they are not suitable to shoot”
  18. rumpeljschtizhen 27 October 2011 19: 09 New
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    corpus survival companies

    Yes, they made their colors patented ..Surpat ...... but find me in it 5 differences from marpat


    [img] http://www.freewebs.com/blacksnakekiller/MARPAT [1] .jpg [/ img]

    last marpat
    1. Joker 27 October 2011 22: 44 New
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      Yes, when I saw it for the first time, I immediately thought about marpat, only the color is different. Well, there’s a patent so you won’t find fault, and the marpat is very good camouflage.
    2. KASKAD
      KASKAD 28 October 2011 01: 39 New
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      Did you know that the most modern camouflage pattern is the MULTICAM pattern developed by the American company Crye Precision jointly by the US Army Soldier Systems Center. The latter is also known as the US Army Natick labs laboratory.
      And marpat is already becoming obsolete, although our army and before marpat like to the moon the figure that is accepted to equip such shit is just a nightmare.

      http://topwar.ru/2911-multicam-revolyuciya-sredi-kamuflyazhej.html
      1. Joker 28 October 2011 08: 25 New
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        Well, it costs a lot, of course, if you buy the original, and Propper and Tru-spec do it cheaper, but of course you can not compare it with the original.
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          KASKAD 28 October 2011 13: 57 New
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          Ohhhh your propper is not the original ??? 30% of the entire contract stuff is done by Proper, and with them EA Industries, American Apparel, etc., and at the price it is now quite normal. Believe me, I have been selling American equipment for a year and I know what I'm talking about. By the way, there is one Polish company HELIKON-TEX that makes equipment according to American standards, and even somehow they achieved certificates of compliance with American components ECWCS GEN III - a military, army kit of an American soldier. This is a set of clothes consisting of seven 7 layers.
          ECWCS GEN III is used from -40 ° C to + 15 ° C.
          1. Joker 28 October 2011 14: 34 New
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            Camry was invented by Crye Precision for cartoons, the rest produce the mold with their permission, the same Proper, each company paints with its own paint, therefore the original cam can be bought only from Crye Precision. But I am not saying that Proper and Tru-spec are bad, they are about the same quality. I was just talking about the original.
            1. KASKAD
              KASKAD 28 October 2011 15: 15 New
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              Crye Precision is a developer, and production is just on Propere, and with it also EA industries, American Apparel and so on. It's like a design office and production lines, Tru-speck is a Chinese hat in general, do not equal it with contract things.
  19. Joker 27 October 2011 22: 56 New
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    For tomorrow, another interesting article was thrown off, if everything will be the norm, read about how ordinary soldiers in the USA are equipped.
  20. Max79 27 October 2011 23: 54 New
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    They also forgot to put on their underpants with a silencer. I heard somewhere such a saying ... Why didn’t the American soldier accomplish a single feat? Because he didn’t spell it in the contract ... A good phrase and leads to reflection .. .
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      Uncle Sam 28 October 2011 19: 05 New
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      they made a lot of feats, in the good night the kids do not show about it
      1. lightforcer
        lightforcer 28 October 2011 19: 10 New
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        Americans do not commit feats, this is not in the contract.
  21. Cochetkov.serzh
    Cochetkov.serzh 28 October 2011 01: 24 New
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    Cool peppers) like a movie straight .... and so of course we are many lacking in ammunition.
  22. Alexei 28 October 2011 01: 31 New
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    The rifles are beautiful, no doubt. But for some reason I have (I don’t know why) the feeling that you need to be extremely careful when handling them, because they are fragile. And so I agree that we urgently need to work on equipping our soldiers. The Americans are constantly working, but we don’t know, they’re stuffing their pockets ... Well, nothing, the amount seems to have been allocated for the army, and someone will have to ask for spent.
    1. KASKAD
      KASKAD 28 October 2011 02: 24 New
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      It’s just that not one general has ever tried to run a couple of kilometers in our equipment, otherwise they would already be looking for someone to buy from abroad wink
      1. Joker 28 October 2011 08: 27 New
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        Well, I think they also ran at one time, not all of course.
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      stood out it stood out, only it's all on the equipment, but on the equipment like nothing. However, as usual.
  23. Joker 28 October 2011 09: 26 New
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    Here is for broadening horizons. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c3qwIgSJRY
  24. zavesa01
    zavesa01 28 October 2011 09: 58 New
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    You look at the form of the Navy, she generally Peter the Great. Because TRADITIONS OF THE HOLY.
    1. Joker 28 October 2011 10: 19 New
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      Yes, but this is the Navy, and camouflage is needed to mask a person, or at least be very convenient. But with us, not a single one is followed in the development of camouflage. You must agree with the number, it masks in vain both near and far (a dark spot turns out), the camouflage should blur the silhouette in the first place.
  25. Gurza 28 October 2011 12: 29 New
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    ooooh super! Thanks for the picture! If it’s interesting, there’s such a “blogger” whose name is KARDEN leads a LiveJournal and a page on a tube, he answers questions, answered me, describes the weapon perfectly, photographs everything in detail, with explanations, pluses and minuses, he’s not a representative of the plant, he’s a commando says only the truth, sometimes bitter, but from him you can find out the exact information!

    At the expense of equipment, I can say: - well done amers, what’s the matter, but good fellows, I respect them for this as enemies. But there is one BUT !!! Can you imagine what the conflict of the West against Russia means! This is the use of not only conventional weapons but also nuclear weapons, "EMP" weapons. It’s just such a mess that all these gadgets will either burn out (more precisely, the electronics will burn out) or there simply will not be enough “batteries” for them
    To deter the West, we have the YaRS and there is the Mace (by the way, the mace was included in the START treaty! BUT it did not include the Liner rocket, information on which for some time was simply absent) they may well keep the West at a distance and cool their heads in case of aggression . Right now, conversations will begin that they say how many of them we have .... and so on and so on. So FOR HELP: Scientists have calculated that 50 nuclear explosions of modern warheads are enough to destroy the planet, no matter who kills how many times, just ALL die!
    Real re-equipment is needed in the Caucasus, Georgia has shown that real military operations in the Caucasus are quite possible, so you need to keep an army that is large and well-trained.
    So in general, I believe that everything is being done right, but it’s VERY sorry that a lot of money is being stolen and our soldiers aren’t getting a lot of the weapons they need.
    P / S for the destruction of Russia, the US has a different plan, the so-called "Dulles" plan. An example of the action of such a plan is here and now, look at some bloggers. We must agitate the youth ourselves, namely, AGIT, not brainwashing, it makes a big difference, because they were born here to live here, and there is nothing shameful to drive into the minds of young people that we all can, do not succumb to the promises of the West, there are also not all so joyful.!
    1. Joker 28 October 2011 12: 41 New
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      read here .... http://talks.guns.ru/forummessage/51/571481.html
      1. Gurza 28 October 2011 12: 55 New
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        So what? Another article, I don’t see anything special, there are a lot of such articles. Where are your thoughts ??? Some articles and the usual chatter !!!!!!! You certainly saw criticism of the Russian military and decided to invite me to read it. Believe me, my friend, I myself talked with people who really fought, but not everything is so straightforward, a lot of mistakes, but everything is progress! And the Pindos, no matter how cool they look, are also dying, no one will tell you the losses of the Pindostan, you should not rely on official sources. One polkan told me that in the 1 days of the war in Iraq, the amers lost order 10 000 people ...... who will refute? no one!
        1. Joker 28 October 2011 13: 02 New
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          My thoughts are that our soldiers are badly equipped and dressed like homeless people. Our army is currently squalor, which you can’t look at with tears in your eyes. They show new equipment at exhibitions in order to pretend that they are doing something, but are not taking anything into service. And if everything goes further in this direction, the country will never have any defense. Here are my thoughts.
          1. Gurza 28 October 2011 13: 15 New
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            DO YOU KNOW WHERE ?? Have you talked to people ??? So you just look at the pictures, play shooting games and EVERYTHING !!!! You are simply not competent and EVERYTHING !!!!! You are just talking instead of reinforcing your words with really strong facts !!!!!!!! What they don’t report to us, what we have. This does not mean that we do not have it !!!!!!!!!!!
            1. Joker 28 October 2011 14: 39 New
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              Well, yes, sorry, probably the new uniform and our new weapons with equipment, the government of Russia in the stores has hidden and classified somewhere and will only give out in case of war, but for now, let our soldiers drive like homeless people, right? And with M4 I also shot with FN Scar-l, I have good friends in the USA and once a year I fly to visit them, and so these 2 submachine guns are in their family, they went out together and shot from them, you know, the difference with AK is very big, more compact and more convenient, and the return is less, and as it seemed to me more accurately they are at times, I can’t say anything in terms of reliability, I shot probably horns from each 3, nothing stuck.
              1. Gurza 28 October 2011 15: 22 New
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                M4 and FN scar excellent trunks no one argues. even our military confirms this. At the expense of reliability: you are certainly cool to shoot the 3 horn and it doesn’t even jam, go nuts ..... oiled, the new machine didn’t jam too ??? it happens ??? O_O Tell me please Joe, then why are so many amers choosing Kalash when real fighting takes place ??? By the way, I recently saw a photograph of an Australian special forces, one of the fighters had our old man AKM (with bells and whistles, optics, etc., etc.) But he was not embarrassed to carry it ........ think about it !!!!
                1. Joker 29 October 2011 00: 05 New
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                  Reread my comment, I wrote that I can’t say anything by reliability, because I shot only 3 horns. Please post me photos of Americans with Kalash, then we’ll talk. As for reliability, the M4 is inferior to the AK, but American soldiers say that no special tricks are needed, once a day it is necessary to carry out incomplete disassembly and lubricate all the details. A new modification of the M4 is being developed, in which many of the shortcomings will be eliminated, including reliability. Scar is built around the same design as the AK, so it is about as reliable as the AK.
                  1. PSih2097 29 October 2011 00: 22 New
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                    with me, my classmate’s husband shot 1000 rounds of ammunition from the AK (the fore-end was already burning), there were only 15 RPK drums (70) and as many stores from the AK, he shot everything, but when the people took it apart and cleaned it started I felt sorry for him, he cleaned 3 hours, and we drank the same 3 hours with him, but I saw people related to weapons SO in the states only. (Where is this fucking gun reform) THIS IMHO ...
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            My thoughts are that our soldiers are badly equipped and dressed like homeless people. Our army is currently squalor, which you can’t look at with tears in your eyes. They show new equipment at exhibitions in order to pretend that they are doing something, but are not taking anything into service. And if everything goes further in this direction, the country will never have any defense. Here are my thoughts.


            Totally agree
            1. Joker 29 October 2011 00: 08 New
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              Someone hates you, or rather tries to drive you into the minus.
              Have you worn Oakley gloves? And then I want to buy myself, and reviews on the Internet only about their replicas.
              1. KASKAD
                KASKAD 29 October 2011 00: 21 New
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                I read a review of the Marine writes that the water would not be bad but they are made in Vietnam
                I'll take Mechanics myself soon
                1. Joker 29 October 2011 00: 24 New
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                  I wear 5.11, but they got worn out so I’m thinking what new ones to take.
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                    KASKAD 29 October 2011 00: 33 New
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                    So, after 5.11 frank China, it’s not surprising that they quickly fell apart, if you have friends in the USA, ask them to send BLACKHAWK gloves to themselves such demi-season ones, but until they arrived they praised them very much.
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                      Ok, thanks for the tip.
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        Tjumenec72 28 October 2011 13: 02 New
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        by the way on talks.guns.ru sit mostly hunters with trinkets (the thing that is the most thing to eat and the yaphone come from the majority)
        1. Joker 28 October 2011 13: 04 New
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          Well fight with the musket and further if you want it.
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            Tjumenec72 28 October 2011 13: 17 New
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            I don’t have to juggle, I'm not talking about that
            PS I think I’ll take a collimator for my tiger
            1. Gurza 28 October 2011 13: 24 New
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              Joker, you’re not having a constructive conversation, you know little and understand little !!! Very little, war is not a masquerade, it’s important not what it looks like !!
              The tiger is an excellent trunk, it seemed very soft to me, shot from it from a distance of 250m. with the PSO-1 sight at the 7x7 target see (stone), 2 hits from 2. Great choice!! I envy!
              1. Joker 28 October 2011 13: 28 New
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                In my opinion, you are not conducting a constructive conversation, I am not talking about beauty but about convenience. Those. You want to say that a collimator for beauty and a thermal imager with night vision devices, too, as well as a walkie-talkie, lightweight and comfortable body armor, are all this for beauty and masquerade?
                1. Gurza 28 October 2011 13: 36 New
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                  Of course, a commando officer needs a thermal imaging sight to work indoors, it is simply necessary ........ CHALLENGE !!!! I’m not saying that this is not necessary! I TALK THAT EVERYTHING SHOULD BE CORRECTLY SELECTED FOR THE TASK !!!!! The collimator for the scout, just stupid, light bronik, yes. Alpha collimators, heavy helmets, heavy bronics. That's the point, put your brains out, put yourself in the place of a warrior !!!!!!!!
                  1. Joker 28 October 2011 13: 44 New
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                    You probably didn’t understand me correctly from the beginning, I’m not saying that you need to carry a bag of junk with you, I meant that the soldier should have all this junk, and he himself will figure it out when something needs to be taken from the bag. That's what I had in mind, and our soldiers aren’t just junk, they don’t have a bag either, I added an 2 article for tomorrow, about the equipment of a US soldier and our soldier, look and compare, if of course it is interesting.
              2. KASKAD
                KASKAD 28 October 2011 14: 24 New
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                Isn’t the 7x7 target itself funny? In the west, it is considered a decent rifle rifle with a grouping of no more than 1 MOA that is about 2,6-2,7 cm, all that is not considered higher for a weapon, for example, with the Staerovskaya SSg 08 you can get into a hat of a hundredth nail from a hundred meters and thereby hammer it if you try with SVD
                then the hat on the nail should be 7x7cm wink
                1. Gurza 28 October 2011 15: 08 New
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                  We didn’t have a benchrest competition. I can give a lot of reasons why your comment is inappropriate! The point is not that!
                  1. KASKAD
                    KASKAD 28 October 2011 15: 19 New
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                    Quote: GurZa
                    The tiger is an excellent trunk, it seemed very soft to me, shot from it from a distance of 250m. with the PSO-1 sight at the 7x7 target see (stone), 2 hits from 2. Great choice!! I envy!


                    I mean, the Tiger with the PSO-1 sight is an “excellent barrel”.
                    1. Gurza 28 October 2011 15: 48 New
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                      On those shooting for the tiger, we had 2 scope. 1. PSO-1 was intended exclusively for photographs, as the owner of the barrel writes to the magazine "hunt"
                      2. unfortunately I don’t know the scope of night vision, production and marking.
                      Everything else was left at home.
            2. Joker 28 October 2011 13: 26 New
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              I also used to have a tiger smile recently bought a Remington 1100, a great thing smile and all sorts of gadgets are not superfluous.
              1. Gurza 28 October 2011 13: 28 New
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                It all depends on the task! Sometimes there are!
                1. Joker 28 October 2011 13: 29 New
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                  Please give an example when gadgets are redundant ...
                  1. Gurza 28 October 2011 15: 26 New
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                    I’m already tired of tapping the same thing !!!! Lord, I’m not against the bass, not all of them are needed in this or that situation, you are like a child by God, is it not so difficult to understand me ??? If you like the USA so much, go to Iraq or Afghanistan, bring democracy ....... I have a relative married to an American, so what? You know, she told me how her brother served in Kuwait. All day, in turn, they sat on the tower and watched ..... I asked her: - Is that all? She said yes, just sitting in turns, boring things !!!!!!!!
                    1. PSih2097 28 October 2011 15: 52 New
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                      Lord, I’m not against pribmbasy, not all of them are needed in a particular situation, you, as a child, by God, is it not so difficult to understand me ???

                      And here it is about this. It's just that they are not in the army, and if there are, then they were either bought at their own expense on sites such as ibei, or trophy from the Caucasus, our gadgets are not produced, and if they are, then either the quality is lame or the price is sky-high, and the quantity not so much ...
                      1. Joker 29 October 2011 00: 11 New
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                        That's just what I wanted to convey.
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                      I’ll probably decide for myself what to do, your advice is a little inappropriate.
  26. KASKAD
    KASKAD 28 October 2011 15: 07 New
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    They are superfluous only in one case if you have to drag far away on yourself
    1. Gurza 28 October 2011 15: 37 New
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      KASKAD you understand that. And Joker, as a little one, was dressed, he was allowed to shoot, and he, as a prostitute, rushed to the States without understanding anything, he must be praying at star-striped at home!
      1. Joker 29 October 2011 00: 16 New
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        Comrade cattle, read the rules of the site and do not go on insults please.
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        "And Joker, as a little one, was dressed, he was allowed to shoot, and as a prostitute, he rushed to the States without understanding, I suppose he prays at the star-striped house!" - very rudely, paacriotische! choose expressions
    2. PSih2097 28 October 2011 15: 44 New
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      They are superfluous only in one case if you have to drag far away on yourself

      And rightly so, I note. On the other hand - the stock pocket does not pull ...
      1. Gurza 28 October 2011 16: 01 New
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        If there are patros, or food, then 100% is not. This is a debate about 2 ends, as usual shorter!
    3. Tjumenec72
      Tjumenec72 28 October 2011 15: 50 New
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      they have there for this robo-dog do)))

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNZPRsrwumQ
      Damn you will see such a fortune)))
      and this is BigDog beta version)))
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXJZVZFRFJc
      1. PSih2097 28 October 2011 17: 23 New
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        SMSS robot worth $ 500 thousand is designed to transport up to 300 kg of cargo. In the back of a cargo automated platform, you can load everything that soldiers need on the battlefield: ammunition, supplies, medicine, heavy weapons, etc.

        The weight of the device is about 3,2 tons, it moves on six wheels at a speed of 30-40 km / h and can transport 863 kg of cargo. The device frees infantrymen from carrying personal ammunition when performing combat missions on foot.

        The basic version of the system has a mass of 1,7 tons and is modernized in Israel. The total weight of the machine is about 2 tons with a payload of 1 ton. The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) see this vehicle as a conveyor of equipment to support infantry in urban operations and supply the necessary equipment, such as ammunition, under enemy fire. A tactical floating ground support vehicle can also be used to transport the wounded in a situation where the medical team is at risk of attack.
  27. KASKAD
    KASKAD 28 October 2011 15: 46 New
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    Well, I think it’s not worth insulting anyone, I agree with Joker too because I wore an American uniform and fired with imported weapons, believe me, we are behind, look at the bottom of the video from the exhibition, there is about K100 Grand Power which I own, about which there Yaroslav tells, look you will not regret


    http://rutube.ru/tracks/4403875.html?v=c18f6884e38cdab909b29909a9fc7bd3
  28. Gurza 28 October 2011 15: 59 New
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    KASKAD-Already looked, really liked it. I already wrote above that I respect Americans very much because they are so supplying their Army, that everything is put on the conveyor belt. But I despise them as a nation, for everything that they do, for their lies, for their pomp ....... because they live in debt and put the whole world on a dollar ..... Look at Libya. .....like?! It can also be with us, God forbid of course. Therefore, they should clearly know that in the event of war, our ball will fly away in such tarara !!!!!!
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    KASKAD 28 October 2011 16: 10 New
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    I think that in order for the Russian army to gain strength and authority, it is necessary to learn from American and European systems how to prepare supply systems for the Armed Forces and quality control, gain experience and build your own on this basis, correcting the shortcomings of their system only then you can firmly stand on your own feet and dictate your point view of the world, missiles, missiles, but without a professionally highly trained and equipped army, we cannot dictate our policies to the world on equal terms.

    As the Americans say: "you need your Colt on the negotiating table"

    This is just my point.
    1. Gurza 28 October 2011 17: 00 New
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      Yes, it really is, in many ways I agree, it's just that our school is not bad at all, it's just different, has its own history and traditions !!
  30. SIA
    SIA 28 October 2011 18: 09 New
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    All electronics and camouflage should be in place.
  31. PSih2097 28 October 2011 20: 55 New
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    What Gon..n minus without even reading comments?
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    KASKAD 28 October 2011 22: 44 New
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    So I wonder who this "genius" is?
    1. PSih2097 28 October 2011 23: 51 New
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      I realized that someone from our Moscow Region, such as nakh robots ..., a soldier will hold out even if the weight is greater than him - an order ... weapons and uniforms - this is only with the knowledge of the Moscow Region, etc. especially until 18-00 (working hours) ...
      shorter trolls of our MO ...
  33. PSih2097 28 October 2011 22: 54 New
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    For the lovers ... in those who disagree, we draw an analogy (consider the supply of the armies of the Russian Federation and the United States), and not according to the "strike force" program.
    So:
    compare (lump):
    RF: "type" figure from Yudashkin and Gorka
    USA: 6 options figures + 30 options from European NATO countries (I exaggerate, there are actually more)
    I am silent about shoes ... (either west, or on order), ours is a maximum for a couple of months of active action.
    gunshot
    RF:
    AK assault rifles - adopted for service, AN - Spn, AEK - KhZ, it is not clear why ...
    Snipers: BCC, (SVDK, VSSK, SVDK, SVD - do not satisfy, according to the current requirements of the Ministry of Defense), English are taken.
    Despite the fact that in terms of optics we are hopelessly behind the same Belarus ... I am generally silent about the west.
    pistols:
    I’m silent about the pasta ... GS18, PJ, vector, rook, etc. there are pistols for all military branches, up to APS with PBS, but for some reason they spread rot and look at Beretta, Glock, Walther, etc.
    U.S.:
    Assault rifles (assault rifles): derivatives of the M-16 (there are many) + trunks of all NATO countries
    Snipers:
    Remington, barrel, + trunks of all NATO countries
    Pistols: Colt, S&W + trunks of all NATO countries
    uniforms (armor plates, unloading, modules to them):
    It’s interesting on Shi to the mall they thought of it only recently, the amers in Afghanistan still supplied the Mujahideen ...
    One should not accept my criticism as the triumph of the West over the East; one must accept it as it is, however insulting it may be ...
    1. Joker 29 October 2011 00: 21 New
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      For this, he added an article to compare the equipment and took note.
      It's a shame for our soldiers ...
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        That's it, an article for comparison .. Surely, it’s more convenient to fight in a convenient outfit, with good communications, well, we won’t talk about weapons, it’s debatable enough. do not save on their soldiers
  34. PSih2097 28 October 2011 23: 57 New
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    Dear Joker, do a review about the USMC, rangers, CAC and any of the Bundes - similar troops, ... in armament, support and uniforms ...
    1. Joker 29 October 2011 00: 27 New
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      In the summary article? Tomorrow, it seems like my article will appear about the equipment of an ordinary US soldier.
      You can of course write one article about the equipment of different NATO countries in comparison.
    2. Joker 29 October 2011 02: 15 New
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      Added about USMC, then tomorrow I will go to the Bundeswehr.
  35. Marmon 29 October 2011 04: 31 New
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    Where does such hatred for the USA come from or is it envy? In the same USA, a lot of Russians live and do not feel bad.
    1. Joker 29 October 2011 10: 19 New
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      Explain this to those who drove me to the rating in the minus smile
      1. SIA
        SIA 30 October 2011 19: 49 New
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        Well, so you had to VERY try to get the “Jolly Roger” on shoulder straps.
        1. Alexei 30 October 2011 20: 07 New
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          Yes, this is garbage. Here "Russian people" is a real careerist, for 3 days 1 Roger)
          1. SIA
            SIA 30 October 2011 20: 15 New
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            This must have a special talent. wink
            1. Alexei 30 October 2011 20: 21 New
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              I always add a rating to such “talents” so that I don’t get much service in the opposite direction.
  36. SIA
    SIA 30 October 2011 19: 47 New
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    Quote: Marmon
    Where does such hatred for the USA come from or is it envy? In the same USA, a lot of Russians live and do not feel bad

    Yes, where does the hate? And that these Russians in Russia do not live now? Are they going to get worse? Why did they leave for the USA? They lived badly in Russia?
    1. Alexei 30 October 2011 20: 18 New
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      Rushing to where the ass is warm is not in Russian, I think.
      1. Joker 30 October 2011 21: 17 New
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        Please tell me, is this the meaning of human life? Why is a person born into the world in order to fight? Serve someone? Hobble?
        I don’t need such a life, I was born in order to live life with dignity, so that when I died I had something to remember, some bright moments of my life. So that I know that my children will not ask for alms on the street, they will not need anything. At the same time, I do not want to recall some kind of war between animals, about the fact that some uncle billionaire considers himself a god on earth and interferes with my personal life. I want to live it so that there is as much light as possible in my life. And by no means in a society of ill-mannered, uncultured, immoral, thumping and omnipresent animals that only think about some kind of war and constantly envy everyone and everything, because nothing happens in their gray life. From the fact that I was born on a piece of land called Russia, now I owe something to someone? It turns out I was born a slave to a moronic state that came up with a society to which I now owe something, although I did not receive anything from it in return. If there is a war, I must defend this state, WHY? Then what is so customary in the society to which I owe, I, as a slave of my state, should give my life so that there live people whom I do not even know and who never did anything for me. Yes, it’s necessary, I’ll gather all my relatives and go where there is no war, my state is where my family is. A house, land is a secondary matter, I was not born to be a slave to society. I live for myself and not for anyone.
        1. Alexei 30 October 2011 21: 33 New
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          Joker] If there is a war, I must defend this state, WHY?

          So for the sake of your family, so that your children do not ask for alms. For what else did they die in wars? For mothers, children and the Motherland. I’ll leave where there is no war ... If our ancestors did this, then you wouldn’t be like the state -yah. Running away from problems is your worth?
          Drive, of course, but remember --- whatever the times and circumstances, you are the only one who holds the answer for your soul.
          1. Joker 30 October 2011 23: 05 New
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            Yes, I’ll take my relatives with me. Run away from problems? What problems? Which other people create, they fight not against me but against the state and its power, if the USA in Russia met with flags and pipes, would they shoot at all? This is not genocide. You want to fight, but I pass, I will do everything so that my relatives feel good, and let the rest think with their own heads, want to fight, please, they want to quietly, sit at home peacefully, please. I was not born to fight for a piece of land. It’s been a prime minister, it’s the 21 century and we’re fighting each other, it would be better if we fought terrorism and drugs and brought order to our countries.
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              sambiz163 31 October 2011 00: 39 New
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              DEAR COMMUNITY
              I am ashamed that a person with such an opinion walks along that piece of land that I call the Motherland, and foreigners enviously call Russia.
              The principle is simple - do not like to change citizenship and go abroad !!!!!
              When our grandfathers stopped German tigers with their bare hands near Moscow ....... I am personally responsible to my grandfathers and other dead soldiers so that this piece of land is always spoken in Russian, Ukrainian, Tajik, Mordovian and other languages ​​!!!! !!!!
              If necessary, I will fight with a shovel without any calculators.
              By the way, as far as I know beyond the Arctic Circle there are no problems with terrorism, drugs and everywhere @@@ with animals too Joker - you go there :) :)))))))
              1. Joker 31 October 2011 01: 10 New
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                Somehow and without you I’ll figure out where to go, while I am satisfied here. It seems that someone is taking your land from you, the government will be removed and that's it, no one will touch you, nor your relatives, either. And about "they always spoke Russian, Ukrainian, Tajik, Mordovian and other languages" it smells like racism, you know the land is common and you don’t decide who will live where. It is high time for all civilized countries to unite and to make a free visa-free zone on their territory. Develop together and improve living standards.
                1. Alexei 31 October 2011 03: 50 New
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                  Joker] It feels like someone is taking your land from you, they’ll take it off
                  the government and everything, no one will touch you, nor your relatives either.

                  It feels like the Joker never talked with the people who went through the occupation. You talk with old women while they are alive, they will tell you how they had to not wash and go dirty and in dirty rags to the invaders (which in your opinion should only change the government) they weren’t overpowered in the sexual plan. And with your naive thoughts (I apologize), you Joker made a mistake on the site.
                  1. Joker 31 October 2011 09: 34 New
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                    In the 2-th World it was not a war, but a genocide, it is not necessary to compare it with modern wars.
    2. KASKAD
      KASKAD 31 October 2011 16: 30 New
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      You surprise me, do you live well in Russia? Are you an oligarch? Or Kadyrov?
      If I work hard as a dad, Carlo, God forbid, I’ll earn 15 thousand rubles at some factory from which taxes will be deducted and nay @ boot another thirty percent, as a result you will get 7 thousand rubles in your hands and go feed your family, in the USA I have a friend worked on an exchange half a year worked as a lifeguard on the beach and in the evening he pounded goods in a supermarket from two jobs received $ 86 a day and you need to take into account how much cheaper it is, for example, a Lexus new passenger car in the cabin $ 43 we have the same Lexus $ 000 in Moscow, electronic goods are much cheaper at times, there is a country for people, and each one of us fills up and fells, and wherever everything goes through one place, you probably have to be Putin’s nephew to do something without a bribe. That's why they leave there, I would leave, not for myself, even though the children would live like people in a normal house with heating with light and a car in the garage, and not in a communal apartment 120 * 000 m
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        They themselves made such a life, but the guilty must be the king, leader, president, oligarch, and so on and so forth ... Even the bandits, for their exaltation, did something and not ached. Here and the results. (At what cost- this is another conversation, separate) .A ..
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          Aha, that is, I have to shave my whole life for someone, no, thank you very much.
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    SIA 31 October 2011 02: 12 New
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    Joker
    Listen, for you, for me and for all those who live now, our fathers, grandfathers, and some may have prades, gave their lives. And you say this here ... "my hut from the edge, I don’t know anything." What kind of ostrich behavior, to hide his head in the sand? Himself not ashamed in front of you?
    Although what am I talking about, what shame?
    After all, shame is not smoke, eyes will not eat, right?
    1. Alexei 31 October 2011 04: 34 New
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      Yes, he just made a mistake on the site. He wanted to prepare, tie the relatives for the winter, to tie them up and dress up, and then they were forced to fight. Let them leave the hill, as they say, "the detachment did not notice the loss of a fighter."
      1. Joker 31 October 2011 09: 40 New
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        Thank you, without your clever comments, I would not even know what to do, as I opened my eyes straight.
        Those. do you think if you read sites with a military theme, then you should fight? This logic surprises me wink
    2. Joker 31 October 2011 09: 37 New
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      God didn’t give a man a head to eat in it, but to think if he has it for food, then fight of course. Shame on what? If my relatives will be fine, then what am I ashamed of?
      1. SIA
        SIA 31 October 2011 17: 29 New
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        Are you really Dumb or what? I just can’t understand you, your "ostrich-idiotic policy." Think for yourself to whom you owe life to such a guano like you hanging out like some kind of substance in an ice hole. The fact that you became a guan and fell into an ice hole is only your fault, no one else's.
        Then get out of Russia, to your beloved Pindostan, bury your ass in a deep anti-nuclear bunker, but you like to build bunkers that are shifted at the end of the world. You have nothing. no mind, no honor, no conscience.
        I hope there you will die under the roar of our Topol-M warheads.

        Yes, you, like a blunt-headed ram, will be driven away by a whip from a smelly trough to give other rams a chance to get drunk, what are you going to do? Will you die of hunger, or will you push the sheep neighbors? Choose ...
        1. Joker 1 November 2011 09: 40 New
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          Oh, how I turned it around, with your insults you only show the level of your ignorance. I owe it not to you with my life, but to my grandfathers who fought for my future.
          With pleasure and I’ll leave, only I have business so far here smile
  38. SIA
    SIA 31 October 2011 17: 38 New
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    Please tell me, is this the meaning of human life? Why is a person born into the world in order to fight? Serve someone? Hobble?
    I don’t need such a life, I was born in order to live life with dignity, so that when I died I had something to remember, some bright moments of my life. So that I know that my children will not ask for alms on the street, they will not need anything. At the same time, I do not want to recall some kind of war between animals, about the fact that some uncle billionaire considers himself a god on earth and interferes with my personal life. I want to live it so that there is as much light as possible in my life. And by no means in a society of ill-mannered, uncultured, immoral, thumping and omnipresent animals that only think about some kind of war and constantly envy everyone and everything, because nothing happens in their gray life. From the fact that I was born on a piece of land called Russia, now I owe something to someone? It turns out I was born a slave to a moronic state that came up with a society to which I now owe something, although I did not receive anything from it in return. If there is a war, I must defend this state, WHY? Then what is so customary in the society to which I owe, I, as a slave of my state, should give my life so that there live people whom I do not even know and who never did anything for me. Yes, it’s necessary, I’ll gather all my relatives and go where there is no war, my state is where my family is. A house, land is a secondary matter, I was not born to be a slave to society. I live for myself and not for anyone.
    Go and rush under the train, jump from a high bridge into the water, go and hang yourself on a high pine. but you will not owe anything to anyone.
    honestly. Clearly the roof is out of order.
    1. Joker 1 November 2011 09: 41 New
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      Justify, insulting a special mind is not necessary. If you are a slave, then this is your choice, serve your rest of your life.
  39. KASKAD
    KASKAD 31 October 2011 17: 58 New
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    Go and rush under the train, jump from a high bridge into the water, go and hang yourself on a high pine. but you will not owe anything to anyone.
    honestly. Clearly the roof is out of order.



    And I think you have problems with the roof ...
  40. zero
    zero 31 October 2011 23: 03 New
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    As always, it came down to mutual insults ..
    It started like a piece of equipment. smile The movie is pure Hollywood, patriotic and beautiful, designed specifically for 17-year-old boys. IMHO: Pindos, no doubt, everything is beautiful, but imagine a supply of batteries for all this computer shit. It’s just that they don’t have a calculation for long autonomous military operations, any of their action is a day (according to plan), then for a turntable and home. Hence the variety of weapons and equipment (robots (electric!), Six-wheeled carts, etc.) And with us? There is, in fact, infantry (whatever you call it) and special units. You have rations for a certain number of days and BC for an hour of battle, so go and complete the task (exaggerate). And what is characteristic, after all, if you do it, where to go? )))
    2 Joker: you have a grandfather with a grandmother where were in WWII? Also, perhaps, pulled to hell? Maybe they also paid someone away for evacuation, but rations are fatter?
    1. Joker 1 November 2011 09: 44 New
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      They fought against the Nazis. You do not confuse genocide and modern war, then either we were them, or they were us. And now they are fighting against the government.
    2. Alexei 1 November 2011 21: 12 New
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      Zero, the most adequate commentary on the topic, keep the tag and plus)
  41. SIA
    SIA 1 November 2011 05: 37 New
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    Quote: KASKAD
    And I think you have problems with the roof ...

    Well, it only seems to you. I just never really understood people like joker. It turns out to anyone and does not owe or owe anything. Our fathers and grandfathers did not think so. It was necessary to go and defend the Motherland, they went and defended without further questions.
    1. Joker 1 November 2011 09: 48 New
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      1-read the comments above.
      2-yes, I don’t owe anything to anyone, if half of my city is killed in the war (God forbid, of course) it will be somehow parallel to me, these people made their own choice, decided to fight, fight.
      For me, the main thing is my family and people close to me, I did not spit on the others from the high bell tower.
  42. Atlz
    Atlz 1 November 2011 13: 02 New
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    There is a state, and there is a Homeland. The place where we are born, we live and die. The homeland is my own. And for it I am ready to give my life in spite of any governments, the state owes or does not owe me a favor. Not a place colors a person, but man is a place. If you tremble, if you think you owe nothing to anyone, you just (****). Vali ...
    1. Joker 1 November 2011 13: 19 New
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      Well, this is your opinion, but mine is different and due to the fact that my opinion differs from yours, you decided to insult me, am I campaigning for someone? You have your own head on your shoulders and think how to do it right for you, and I will think with my own head. I'm not going to adapt to anyone, I'm sorry. So you say get out of here, huh? But look at it on the other hand, am I interfering with someone, getting into someone’s personal life, agitating someone? I live on my own, communicate with people who share my views, does it hurt you or something? Or do you want everyone to be your clones and think the same way you do? This will not happen, do not dream, there are many people on the planet who live and not everyone has the same opinion, that’s why you’ve got a head and brains. And with your insults you only confirm once again the correctness of my statements about the fact that people in Russia are uncultured. Read a book on cultural studies, it will come in handy in life, you look and your wife will be proud that she has a cultured husband.
      1. Alexei 1 November 2011 16: 52 New
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        Do not be shy for the kindly fatherland ...
        I brought enough Russian people,
        He took this railroad
        He will bear everything that the Lord sends!

        It will endure everything - and broad, clear
        Breast pave the way for yourself!


        Nekrasov wrote about a great people, not like the Joker and Cascade, whose thoughts are limited only by problems.
        1. Joker 1 November 2011 21: 57 New
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          Do not make of those who want a normal life enemies of the state. Each person has his own goal in life and he strives for it.
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            And I don’t make enemies out of you, it’s just sometimes necessary to think at least about something other than your bare ass.
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              And I’m not naked to think about him smile
  43. KASKAD
    KASKAD 1 November 2011 21: 29 New
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    Quote: Alexej
    Do not be shy for the kindly fatherland ...
    I brought enough Russian people,
    He took this railroad
    He will bear everything that the Lord sends!

    It will endure everything - and broad, clear
    Breast pave the way for yourself!


    Nekrasov wrote about a great people, not like the Joker and Cascade, whose thoughts are limited only by problems.


    Tell about this, he sold Russia in the 90s and continues to steal now,
    but I just want me to live in a civilized and rational country and my children to live in dignity.
    1. Joker 1 November 2011 21: 55 New
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      I'll support your comment.
      1. Alexei 2 November 2011 01: 00 New
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        Well, duck and I support. In order for the country to be such, in addition to "just want" everyone needs to sweat, it is possible that in the war.
  44. SIA
    SIA 2 November 2011 05: 32 New
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    Quote: Alexej
    In order for the country to be such, in addition to “just want,” everyone needs to sweat, it is possible that in the war.

    That is rightly said. I want a lot of things ...
  45. zero
    zero 2 November 2011 22: 37 New
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    2 Joker: it may be that “normal life” (and what is it in a war or genocide?) Will have to fight. And if you think that when you run away you’ll solve all your problems, I’m afraid I will have to run for a very long time. I’ll say for myself that I will also try to hide (evacuate) my people to where I’m at least relatively safe, but I’ll take it in my hands ...

    Alexej, thanks
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    what people are arguing about when exchange amers come to Israel and try to deal with local for some reason ysera conscripts in 100% of cases do this, it is a fact. In aoi, there are not just any electronic gadgets, but the hell of a welcome, the main emphasis is on individual and group preparation for the organization of communication and interaction. and industry does what it needs for the army. the field form of 50 years no one changed. the army is constantly improving. service mode is built like this 3 months training 3 months military service and so on
  47. dred
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    A multidisciplinary computer would be our specialists.
  48. bishopXhc
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    Fur seals are a division of the fleet. Marine Corps