In the Russian Federation test UAVs with automatic weapons

The Russian company "YUVS AVIA" began testing the drone "Granat VA-1200", capable of carrying small weaponnewspaper reports Look with reference to the general director of the enterprise Vladimir Aghamalyan.

"Pomegranate BA-1000"

“While not talking about the timing of state tests, as the complex with the drone will need to be finalized according to the results of factory tests. The question of the timing of the start of state tests will be decided next year, ”said the head.

Aghamalyan also said that the “Grenade BA-1200, an experimental helicopter-type UAV with eight rotors created at the enterprise, was first demonstrated at the International Army-2015 military-technical forum in the armed version”.

“During the demonstration at the forum, the drone was armed with a pneumatic copy of the Kedr machine gun and successfully shot balloons, which fully confirmed the possibility of arming the drone,” he said.

According to the general director, “the special units of the Defense Ministry and security agencies are interested in the complex with a short-range UAV in the shock version.

Comments

[mig31]

The camera impresses, I thought there was something on-board, although the trouble began ....

[Baikonur]

I have been thinking for a long time: why do not a drone sniper ?! With a silencer! After all, a cool thing will be! And it is possible !!!

[Tanais]

Quote: Baikonur

I have been thinking for a long time: why do not a drone sniper ?! With a silencer! After all, a cool thing will be! And it is possible !!!

Just yesterday, they quit about it:



And you have to ...

[Conductor]

Quote: Baikonur
I have been thinking for a long time: why do not a drone sniper ?! With a silencer! After all, a cool thing will be! And it is possible !!!
Just yesterday, they quit about it:

Yes, and moreover, the caliber is only 22lr, and already throws it

[wk]

Quote: Explorer

Yes, and moreover, the caliber is only 22lr, and already throws it

Well, at the present, it is possible to mount a rollback system.

[arane]

Who is this drone shooting at? Connor to Sarah?

[GRAY]

Quote: Tanais

Just yesterday, they quit about it:

It is necessary for him to attach a second barrel so that in the opposite direction idle synchronously beat - compensated for the return.

[Sid.74]

Quadcopters can hang for aimed shooting, but good optics and a system of stabilization of aiming are required. But even so, the use of an armed drone is limited, either for special forces and anti-terror forces, or for reconnaissance.
I think much more promising the development of cheap kamikaze drones.

[alecsis69]

Perhaps the system can be adapted to protect the sky from light reconnaissance drones.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: mig31

The camera impresses, I thought there was something on-board, although the trouble began ....

Already come up with, and lovers, and not some kind of defense enterprises:

[Oberon812]

You just sit down, I'll tell you a terrible thing ... Terminator does not exist. And Godzilla, too. Instead, as in this video, dummies and computer graphics were shot ...

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: Oberon812

Instead, as in this video, dummies and computer graphics were shot.

It doesn’t look like computer graphics at all.

Quote: Oberon812

You just sit down, I'll tell you a terrible thing ... Terminator does not exist. And Godzilla, too.

It's not about that, there’s no problem sticking a quadcopter to the machine to develop a system so that it compensates for the return and there is no control camera. The capacity of the power source and engine power is enough to carry it all.
And the terminator, with all the desire, could not be created, firstly, artificial intelligence cannot be created today, secondly, there is no such power source, thirdly, you cannot create an android robot so that it can run at a speed of about 50 kilometers per hour, hydraulics cannot quickly rearrange the legs.

[Oberon812]

Comrade Air Force Reserve Lieutenant! Please tell me what will happen to the smoke if a powerful propeller is working nearby? I suggest, there are four of these on a quadcopter. Further, the barrel of the "machine" in the video is directed down and to the side. The propellers of the quadcopter create a lift, and do not push the device to the ground, therefore, it will be impossible to actively parry the impulse of the shot. In the video, the device stabilizes in a split second after the shot.

Thanks for the explanation on the terminator! As a computer scientist by education, I was very interested in learning about the latest trends in the field of artificial intelligence. Now it remains to find a biologist who will advise me on the subject of Godzilla;)

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: Oberon812

Thanks for the explanation on the terminator! As a computer scientist by education, I was very interested in learning about the latest trends in the field of artificial intelligence. Now it remains to find a biologist who will advise me on the subject of Godzilla;)

Well, you would have compared a military quadrocopter with a starship compared to the complexity of manufacturing.

Quote: Oberon812

Tell me, please, what will happen to the smoke if a powerful propeller is working nearby?

What kind of smoke are you talking about? About powder gases or what? So there are probably some kind of bends, and this is not such a problem.

Quote: Oberon812

. In the video, after the shot, the device stabilizes in a split second.

Firstly, in the video, it’s most likely some kind of 5,56 mm assault rifle whose recoil is not large, secondly they shoot in short bursts, thirdly, there are probably some kind of weapon shock absorbers in order to reduce recoil.

[Oberon812]

Well, you would have compared a military quadrocopter with a starship compared to the complexity of manufacturing.

I did not understand about the comparison with the starship, please explain. You climbed into the jungle of AI, not me;)

What kind of smoke are you talking about? About powder gases or what? So there are probably some kind of bends, and this is not such a problem.

I'm talking about the smoke around the copter at 3:43. At the beginning of the video, the screws rather aggressively inhaled smoke and dust, but here they ignore it ...

Firstly, in the video, it’s most likely some kind of 5,56 mm assault rifle whose recoil is not large, secondly they shoot in short bursts, thirdly, there are probably some kind of weapon shock absorbers in order to reduce recoil.

Most holy dumplings, did you hold a weapon in your hands? The only thing you're right with is the caliber. I explain on the fingers.

This is the weapon of our miracle drone:


It is also part of the assault rifle M-16, a modification with a shortened barrel:


And here, the indicated weapon has a drummer, bolt, store receiver, etc. In principle, everything except the barrel and gas pipe.

I sincerely hope that you will not convince me that all this is there, only compact. Or that the weapon itself is located in the body of the drone, and further along the flexible sleeve the bullet flies to the barrel, arranged in the manner of a fire hose.

By the way, the video mentions a 100-round disk magazine. In the case of the M-16, it looks like this:

Can you tell me where this happiness is hidden in a quadrocopter?

for sure there are some kind of weapon shock absorbers to reduce returns.

Yeah, these are:

[Sivan]

Quote: Oberon812

in this video, dummies and computer graphics were shot ...

Exactly! Look at the perfectly smooth surfaces of this drone! You can easily notice that these are just textures on a 3D model.

[Conductor]

You just sit down, I'll tell you a terrible thing ... Terminator does not exist. And Godzilla, too. Instead, as in this video, dummies and computer graphics were shot ... crying recourse

actually in this video no comp. no graphics, I’ll open a terrible secret)

[arane]

[quote = Explorer] [quote] You just sit down, I’ll tell you a terrible thing ... There is no terminator. And Godzilla, too. Instead, as in this video, dummies and computer graphics were shot ... crying recourse [/ quote]
actually in this video no comp. no graphics, I will reveal a terrible secret) [/

Well, there is another secret! I hope there are people here who saw weapons not only in the action movies! There pyrotechnics stuffed with a remote control! You don’t even have to be an expert!

Briefly described, this is a short-range shooting of the Drone at unarmed mined people chained to poles!

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: arane

Briefly described, this is a short-range shooting of the Drone at unarmed mined people chained to poles!

What prevents the use of a sniper rifle? You can use a thermal imager with auto guidance and then no one will run away (program so that the quadrocopter catches thermal targets at the crosshair of the sight). Say it is technically possible to do in 2015?

Quote: arane

I hope there are people here who saw weapons not only in the action movies! There pyrotechnics stuffed with a remote control! You don’t even have to be an expert!

This is understandable, mannequins from bullets do not explode.

[arane]

[quote = Lt. Air Force reserve] [quote = arane] And if you briefly describe it, this is a short-range shooting of the Drone at unarmed mined people chained to pillars! [/ quote]
What prevents the use of a sniper rifle? You can use a thermal imager with auto guidance and then no one will run away (program so that the quadrocopter catches thermal targets at the crosshair of the sight). Tell me what I wrote above, is it technically possible to do in 2015 year?
[quote = arane] I hope there are people here who saw weapons not only in the action movies! There pyrotechnics stuffed with a remote control! You don’t even have to be an expert! [/ quote]
This is understandable, dummies from bullets do not explode. [/

Yes, you can attach a sniper, there are no problems to be solved at this moment! But we are discussing a specific movie with a specific drone! There is one more moment! Of course, I am far from aviation, but I have the audacity to doubt a little that this drone generally fires combat, and that's why .....

the force of action is equal to the strength of the reaction. This is physics! Simply put, powder gases push the bullet and the drone the same way in different directions! For effective shooting, the bursts must be a very large mass difference between the drone and the projectile, otherwise it will simply be carried away along an unpredictable trajectory and where the hell will it go.
But sniper shooting solitary could well be implemented .....

[atalef]

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

What prevents the use of a sniper rifle?

or a grenade?

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

You can use a thermal imager with auto guidance and then no one will scatter

Auto guidance? On whom ? for everything warm I don’t let out a cat on the balcony from tomorrow
article some kind of baby talk
There is nothing to discuss.
They stuck to the quadcopter and immediately decided that it was simply not having a battle analogue in the world.

[Oberon812]

Perhaps) I have given my reasoning above. Please provide your arguments, interesting to read.

[olegator]

with a brutal Russian accent ...)))))

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: olegator

with a brutal Russian accent ...)))))

This is to attract more subscribers and viewers. If you want your channel to be popular in the English-speaking environment, add the word Russia or KGB in the name.

[mihasik]

[/ quote] Already come up with, and amateurs, and not some kind of defense enterprises:
[/ Quote]
Fucking suicide!)) Raise the quadrocopter, turn it around, look at yourself on the monitor screen for the last time, take a selfie and ..... pull the trigger. Everything, you are already gone!)

[arane]

[quote = mihasik] [/ quote] Already come up with, moreover, amateurs, and not some kind of defense enterprises:
[/ Quote]
Fucking suicide!)) Raise the quadrocopter, turn it around, look at yourself on the monitor screen for the last time, take a selfie and ..... pull the trigger. Everything, you are already gone!) [/

Ohhh, Monsieur knows a lot about perversions!
Joke

[mihasik]

Quote: arane

Ohhh, Monsieur knows a lot about perversions!
Joke

When watching a video, it washes away: when will he "get worn out" and, seeing a familiar silhouette on the monitor, will he start beating on his own?)))

[Piraust]

This is how to squeeze orange juice, so as not to see this buzzer 3-4 meters away and not to knock it down with a fly swatter. Such okay only against mannequins - they can’t answer ...

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: Piraust

This is how to squeeze orange juice, so as not to see this buzzer 3-4 meters away and not to knock it down with a fly swatter. Such okay only against mannequins - they can’t answer ...

This is so that in the frame there are mannequins and a quadrocopter, you can open fire from 100 meters.

[Franky elvin]

Quote: Lt. Air Force stock

Already come up with, and lovers, and not some kind of defense enterprises

Yes, simply because such machines are not needed. Countries capable of producing high-quality drones are not too eager to sort things out with them from the distance of a gunshot shot. That is why UAVs are now used for target designation, or to perform tasks with the help of "smart" warheads like Viper Strike - they are less vulnerable from a height.
With such a toy, you can easily shoot in response, but the destruction of drones that illuminate the enemy and follow him from a distance of 8 km is still an open question.

[SRC P-15]

Quote: mig31

The camera impresses

According to the "bunnies" from such a photo lens, this drone will be seen before it fires.

[lelikas]

Quote: mig31

The camera impresses me

Blinds flash to death!

[vodolaz]

Still to come up with how it is quieter to fly and there will be no price. It will be possible to get terrorists through the windows on any floor.

[Eternal Watch]

Here is some interesting news:
"The Kamov company (part of Russian Helicopters) is developing a promising multipurpose ship-based helicopter," General Designer of the company Sergei Mikheev told TASS at the International Maritime Defense Show (IMDS-2015) in St. Petersburg.

"The firm is already creating a project for a promising helicopter. The new design will include all the competencies accumulated by Kamov over the past 50 years," Mikheev said.

According to him, the development can appear at any time specified by the customer, provided that the appropriate funding and order are provided. "We are ready for this, our whole life was the forerunner of the creation of this promising helicopter. But the timing of its appearance is a question of the customer. Provided appropriate measures are taken from his side, the Kamov company is able to quickly create a new generation of multipurpose shipborne helicopter," the agency's source said . "

[jjj]

Then the operator was distracted by the video, and the drone turned in his direction. Accidentally press the trigger, and the inventor is in the role of a target. Are they completely headless there?

[Kibalchish]

That's why they posted this picture? Now our Western partners will impose sanctions on the import of civilian photo and video equipment into Russia, as dual-use goods

[Baloo]

Why "grenade" and not "Archer", "Fighter", "Guardian"?
Respect to the creators.

[Corsair0304]

Well, why not.
It is unlikely that those with small arms will be used in the troops, all the same, this drone is more intended for reconnaissance, and not as a strike.
But here the concept itself is quite a place to be.

[iConst]

Quote: Corsair0304

Well, why not.
It is unlikely that those with small arms will be used in the troops, all the same, this drone is more intended for reconnaissance, and not as a strike.
But here the concept itself is quite a place to be.

This crap in itself is quite noisy: high-speed screws chop the air and this basically can not be avoided. To reduce noise, you need to increase the diameter of the screws and lower the speed of rotation.
Secondly, the quadrocopter is in principle a very slow aircraft. Therefore - a good target.
Therefore, its use in the diversion and reconnaissance field is doubtful.

Statement "During the demonstration at the forum, the drone was armed with a pneumatic copy of the Kedr assault rifle and successfully fired balloons, which fully confirmed the possibility of arming the drone." causes skepticism: firing from pneumatics and military weapons seems to be very different conditions as well as the basis for suitability for use in the sun, victory over unfortunate balloons.

Of course, the properties of these units can be used to advantage. It remains to work out this concept.

[GRAY]

Quote: iConst

Secondly, the quadrocopter is in principle a very slow aircraft.

Is not a fact. There are also high-speed ones.

[Piraust]

Such a "bumblebee" can only be brought down with shrapnel ...

[GRAY]

Quote: Piraust

Such a "bumblebee" can only be brought down with shrapnel ...

Better shot.

[shtatsov]

Ahrinet !!! This is the thing !!!

[alex shnajder]

there are already videos with a gun and a gun ,,,, they would have added a slingshot, like it has no analogues in the world)))

[Oberon812]

With a gun? Link please?

[Alexander 3]

A good apparatus for counter-sabotage groups.

[Private IITR]

It’s high time to come up with remotely controlled attack helicopters: the pilot sits in the barracks and drives and performs tasks in a simulator game.

[A-Sim]

Americans in Afghanistan and Pakistan have killed so many peaceful and uncomplicated people.

[SAM 5]

And who will he shoot from the "Cedar"? I do not think that his integrity will be at its best. Is that the demonstration to disperse with rubber bullets.

[Krasmash]

even the Jews did not have the mind to create something like that.

[lelikas]

Quote: Krasmash

even the Jews did not have the mind to create something like that.

We have different concepts with them, the term Shock, but that's just not in our favor, unfortunately.

[Dan4eG]

We have different concepts with them, the term Shock

UAV with a shovel, flies up and DZINNINN

[Krasmash]

Quote: lelikas

We have different concepts with them, the term Shock

Honestly, it is not clear how this term shock can have different concepts.

[Do not be angry]

Quote: Krasmash

it is not clear how this term percussion can be different

Well, this-ah-ah ... one will hit and the other will hit ... Something like that.

[Krasmash]

And I thought it a sinful thing that with us the shock is the one that destroys all kinds of militants, and with the Israelis the shock is when the peaceful villages of the Palestinians are wiped off the face of the earth. I can not help myself with this corrupting influence of Mr. Vatnik.

[Eternal Watch]

Quote: Fight

Well, this-ah ... one will hit and the other will hit ... Something like that.

Enchantingly

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Krasmash

even the Jews did not have the mind to create something like that.

But something tells me that this is a typical Russian Jew. He did not take off his glasses for good reason. They just demonstrate another bullshit to chop off a couple of billion from the military budget. Such drones have long existed and are mass-produced.

[Same lech]

“During the demonstration at the forum, the drone was armed with a pneumatic copy of the Kedr machine gun and successfully shot balloons, which fully confirmed the possibility of arming the drone,” he said.

Very interesting....

it means that I have a couple of such devices equipped with double-barreled shotguns loaded with buckshot on a bear and sit in the bushes and especially without straining, I can chase any game .... what progress has come to unprecedented miracles ... if only it would not fall into criminal hands.

[Khagysh]

It would be nice to adapt the drone for sniper fire.

[Tor5]

And it would be nice there SVD (or similar, shortened) with optics ....

[Decathlon]

"the special forces of the Ministry of Defense and law enforcement agencies are interested."
And not only! Vepr-308 carbine Super can be installed? And then we have moose, which is characteristic, insolent, throw at people. In September, we are thinking of starting self-defense.

[shuhartred]

Quote: Decathlon

In September, we are thinking of starting self-defense.

Look, they will be declared terrorists. And don't shoot at the ducks from the Buk, otherwise the Boeing won't be able to fly by.

[SAM 5]

It would be better if they put a pitard in it so that it would frighten the enemy.

[lexx2038]

These are just expensive toys that are of little use in life, but through these crafts the necessary technologies are being developed for the production of serious products. Throwing is not necessary, many more will fall to the ground, but then it will surely work out - it is necessary to start small.

[Eternal Watch]

Quote: lexx2038

Throwing is not necessary, many more will fall to the ground, but then it will surely work out - it is necessary to start small.

My son is building paper planes, he will be a hundred pounds designer, starting small

[lexx2038]

Will - if not abandon this business.

[Mountain shooter]

The mass of such a device is too small. Where will you get the return? This means that you can't even "screw on" a serious rifle, it will swing. Aim will be weak. Although, if you set the task like this, then a gyro-stabilized platform, and a special rifle, such as a recoilless one, and the weight of the apparatus under 100 kg, can turn out to be a very dangerous toy. Calculated the target, and sent such a killer to her. He got close to a direct shot at any height, from any side, and slammed the target. Horror. Although, if the device is massive and cheap, it is easier to attach an explosive device to it and send it to the target, like a kamikaze ...

[Shtyn dwarf]

saiga 107 with balanced automation shoots almost without recoil

[Petrix]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

and send on target like a kamikaze ...

Why, like a kamikaze? You can just like a bomber.
Anti-recoil is not needed for the "lemon", super weight is not required, super precision is not required.
Exit to the target at maximum speed, in autopilot mode. Reset in coordinates and back for a new load.

[Abbra]

And then I imagined in a dream how such a thing slowly swims into the window ... I’m asking for a list!

[Wedmak]

Well, that's up to the drums. And then they lagged behind, lagged ... the main thing is right, to kick the right people and in the right direction! We have a lot of iron and brains.

[Dangerous]

I hope you wrote the expression "strike drone" sarcastically?
Here is the shock in the picture, and the toy is useless in the article. And already wrote above why it is useless

[Wedmak]

In the picture, yes, a cool waffle on the test. Given that the United States has been dealing with this topic for a long time, and ours have just begun. So far they are played with small toys. The main thing is that they are moving at a fairly rapid pace.

[Dangerous]

It’s very fast pace!))) This toy is only suitable for snooping on the beach for girls in booths

[Victor-M]

Quote: Dangerous

Here is the shock in the picture, and the toy is useless in the article.

You are right in your picture: an impact drone, only against which country, because for a country that has modern air defense, it will also be a toy.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: Dangerous

I hope you wrote the expression "strike drone" sarcastically?
Here is the shock in the picture, and the toy is useless in the article. And already wrote above why it is useless

These are all weapons of different subordination, the one in the picture is a heavy drone of the subordination level of the Air Force or Navy carrier-based aviation. And the article says about the platoon command-line drone, the pluses are obvious, the effect of surprise, you can work from a closed position, highlight targets for missile attacks or artillery guided missile attacks, reconnaissance, liquidation of enemy personnel (for example, the enemy’s compartment is in the trench, such a drone can one all of them take off)

[Alexander 3]

ALLOWED TO THE GRANATE, IT MAY BE ABLE TO RESET TO THE HEAD OF THE NON-OPERATOR.

[Abbra]

Damn, with the further development of technology, you can even reset the feces ...

[iConst]

Quote: Abbra

Damn, with the further development of technology, you can even reset the feces ...

And with further development of technology, it will be possible to steal enemy officers from the forefront.

[Dan4eG]

flew up, pissed everyone and flew away!
not mortally, but insulting!

[Sukhoi]

So GranaД and GranaТ?

[SRC P-15]

Quote: Sukhoi

So GranaД and GranaТ?

Damn, I waited almost an hour: would anyone notice it or not.

[Oberon812]

Shhh, this is specifically for misleading the enemy. Now all the names will be homophones!

[ydjin]

So the word pomegranate comes from grenada, hence the grenadiers. Like the Japanese Mitsubishi and Mitsubishi, both are correct!

[Strashila]

With this miracle dress up with cumulative-fragmentation warheads that are used in warheads in Smerch systems ... this can also be screwed.

[Izotovp]

There are already in the West the development of the so-called kamikaze drones, which are barrage shells with recognition systems and target selection. In principle, it is possible to solve the problem and with recoil, AEK screwed up normally, but after the first shot at a short distance it will be detected and shot down cheerfully, and to hit such a maneuvering target as a soldier in battle is not so easy, it’s not a stationary balloon, the soldier will hide and move constantly, otherwise he will be without such a drone-corpse. It would be much more interesting to fasten MON-ku to it. More relevant would be not combat (wow! How to effectively shoot balls), but transport unmanned vehicles that would deliver cargoes via satellite coordinates, for example, special forces, ammunition, medicine, the Navy and the Ministry of Emergency Situations, rescue equipment, the Ministry of Emergency Situations, food delivery, and medicine for the affected areas .

[ydjin]

Colleague, for sure! And that would kill and kill, because you can use it for the good! Keep me a huge plus!

[Zingvar]

We have to start somewhere, Von Peter built the first boat on the lake, and then he built the fleet.

[dobrutro]

It is high time! From the Chinese quadrocopter, you can also read such a thing.

[morozik]

maybe of course not the topic, but for a smile))

[Shtyn dwarf]

Quote: Dangerous

I hope you wrote the expression "strike drone" sarcastically?
Here is the shock in the picture, and the toy is useless in the article. And already wrote above why it is useless

Write down the tactics of using this wunderwafe in relation to Russia. And then say - a useful thing or not. If you start to write - I will add the ending - in ANY scenario - Nuclear strike puts an end to it. All these wunderwales and other PAK FA - all serve only to promote and develop their own science (with the hope of being realized in civilian life), and also this is the image and PR. Like moose during mating games, such as whose horns are cooler. ALL the coolest military "chips" have found application in peaceful civilian life - the Internet, nuclear energy, space flights. ALL of this was originally done for military purposes.
In the future, a miniature submarine can fly into the cave of the Mujahideen and shoot everyone inside in a minute - watch the film "Oblivion" - it is clearly demonstrated there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g162350jLAQ

[mitrich]

Shame .... They also write about this "breakthrough". Circle of pioneers-downs "crooked hands". How many crap about our "drones" can be posted here. There is none of them! Here in the photo above, amerovsky, this is a bird. Respect. I hope the Americans have smart people who reprint these pearls on the corresponding amerovski sites. That is where the military experts would have laughed at the Rushen-crazy.