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Former NSA officers wrote a letter to Obama demanding to publish intelligence data about the crash of the Malaysian Boeing-777 near Donetsk

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The US president received another letter from veterans of American intelligence. This time, American intelligence veterans are demanding that Obama publish a report on the crash of the Malaysian Boeing-777 near Donetsk. The letter says that a year has passed since the crash, but the American special services have not published any data, which raises many questions about the progress of the investigation and what this investigation is generally based on.


Former NSA officers wrote a letter to Obama demanding to publish intelligence data about the crash of the Malaysian Boeing-777 near Donetsk


These strange American veterans of intelligence ... After all, they still explained Jen Psaki that the investigation would be based on data from "open sources, including the media and social networks." And they are about some reports of the American special services ... US intelligence services themselves are waiting for the go-ahead, based on the data from Twitter and Facebook, to concoct more or less plausible material to shield the war criminal Poroshenko.

RT cites an excerpt from a letter to American intelligence veterans:
The US government made brief reports based on reports from social networks and other similar sources, blaming Donbas militias and Russia. But when it came to real intelligence, it suddenly fell silent. Perhaps the plane crash was deliberately organized by Kiev or one of the Ukrainian oligarchs in order to draw the anti-Kiev forces and Russia into the bloody war. If the US government knows who organized the attack on the plane - it must provide evidence. If not, then it should declare it.


The letter was signed by 16 senior officers - ex-NSA employees. In the US, as you can see, only former members of the special services can afford to be interested in the truth.
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  1. Roman1970
    Roman1970 23 July 2015 12: 57
    +21
    Yes, Obama does not care ... He will not listen to anyone, especially the "former" ... Democracy in the United States is a myth. There is more freedom in Russia. Take the same Snowden. The whole world kind of "supports" him, but if he returns to the States, he will be jailed 100 percent.
    1. Baikonur
      Baikonur 23 July 2015 12: 59
      +17
      This is not the point! The Boeing was shot down in order to blame Russia! How can they publish incriminating evidence on UKRs (for themselves! After all, it’s for sure - they prepared a setup that the URCs couldn’t perform normally, deby!)!
      1. svetoruss
        svetoruss 23 July 2015 13: 05
        +14
        Quote: Baikonur
        This is not the point! It is necessary to blame Russia! How can they publish incriminating evidence on UKRs (on themselves)

        Here I found about blaming Russia
      2. Sid.74
        Sid.74 23 July 2015 13: 06
        +13
        Americans began to suspect something.wink
        This saying could boil off with a booze.smile
        1. ROD VDVshny
          ROD VDVshny 23 July 2015 13: 28
          +10
          Retired again ... wassat
          As in the service, so Pskaki, as in retirement - so cut the truth, uterus laughing
      3. just exp
        just exp 23 July 2015 13: 30
        +6
        few people remember here, but then Kakly was sitting in boilers and threatened with the complete destruction of the Armed Forces in the Donbass, and there was a need to stop the fire, the states of which just did not stop the militia, and then a Boeing appeared, after which the war died down. and part of the APU was saved.
      4. Private Starley
        Private Starley 23 July 2015 14: 22
        +2
        Yes, McCain himself said that these morons can not be trusted ...)
    2. vodolaz
      vodolaz 23 July 2015 13: 31
      +4
      As I look, only American politicians and other civil servants should retire, so common sense begins to appear in their words.
      1. just exp
        just exp 23 July 2015 13: 52
        +5
        high chair ceases to put pressure on conscience.
    3. arane
      arane 23 July 2015 13: 44
      +15
      Another thing surprises me! The people, intelligence has always been, is and will be the elite of any state! This is one of the fundamental foundations of state independence and sovereignty! There are no former scouts! If Amer’s ex-intelligence officers write this, then someone needs it in the USA! It has nothing to do with the search for truth, it just coincided!
      Either someone digs a smoked one (elections are coming soon), or something that is not yet clear to us!
      But this does not bode well for Russia! In any case!

      Imagine our intelligence retirees pulling our dirty laundry to a magistrate court ...
      Their life will be bright, but short .....
      1. just exp
        just exp 23 July 2015 14: 41
        +4
        info on Boeing will bring trouble not only to Obama, but to the entire state.
        IMHO scouts like no one else have access to real information and a picture of the world, and they understand that the states can soon unleash a world war, and let them be even the biggest cynics, but the death of millions of people can not but put pressure on conscience, and conscience is closer to old age begins to push harder and harder. and they may well somehow try to influence the situation, if only in order to calm their conscience in old age and meet death, somewhat whitewashing themselves.
      2. avia1991
        avia1991 23 July 2015 21: 11
        +1
        Quote: arane
        pulling our dirty laundry to the magistrates' court .....

        So they do not pull out:
        If the US government knows who organized the attack on the plane - it must provide evidence. If not, then it should declare this.
        Here it is, their demand. No compromising - quite a normal desire to find out, something is known to intelligence, or all the chatter on this subject was banal verbiage .. hi
    4. Volzhanin
      Volzhanin 23 July 2015 13: 57
      +2
      It is clear that do not care. He is just a talking head, a puppet, a doll, the same as a piglet with an egg.
      1. kotvov
        kotvov 23 July 2015 20: 23
        +1
        He’s just a talking head, a puppet, a doll, the same as a piglet with an egg-laying. ,,
        moreover, although I don’t want to insult, I’ll have to be just as dumb.
    5. solovey
      solovey 23 July 2015 14: 05
      +1
      if not executed wink
  2. Andryukha
    Andryukha 23 July 2015 12: 59
    +4
    Do they have "exes"?
    For some reason, it reminds me of an imitation of democracy.
    1. Roman1970
      Roman1970 23 July 2015 13: 04
      +9
      Quote: Andryukha
      Do they have "exes"?
      For some reason, it reminds me of an imitation of democracy.

      It is easier for the "former", they are not kept by work, money. This is why I respect Zeman. He is the current president and says what he thinks.
      1. Altona
        Altona 23 July 2015 13: 14
        +5
        Quote: Roman1970
        It is easier for the "former", they are not kept by work, money. This is why I respect Zeman. He is the current president and says what he thinks.

        ---------------------
        It is easier for them relatively, they can be accused of "anti-American activities" or arrange a sudden death in a car accident under unclear circumstances ... This is a normal practice in the United States to fight truth-tellers ... investigations ...
        1. just exp
          just exp 23 July 2015 13: 28
          0
          death is if they go too far, and this is an information phone, pretenders, but there is no danger.
          but an unpleasant sediment still remains.
          1. Alexey Lobanov
            Alexey Lobanov 23 July 2015 16: 13
            +2
            Or, perhaps, they simply decided "quietly" to start draining the parcels, through the "former" ones, and then the officials will connect, we supposedly knew nothing ... bully
      2. Alexey Lobanov
        Alexey Lobanov 23 July 2015 16: 07
        +1
        Quote: Roman1970
        Quote: Andryukha
        Do they have "exes"?
        For some reason, it reminds me of an imitation of democracy.

        It is easier for the "former", they are not kept by work, money. This is why I respect Zeman. He is the current president and says what he thinks.


        As far as I remember the then press, only in our country and in Czechoslovakia after the collapse of the USSR and the Warsaw Pact there were cases of suicides of senior intelligence officers. The Czechs at all times respected their integrity. Even during the war, according to the recollections of our people from the occupied regions, they remained with a human face, unlike the rest of Hitler’s European mongrel.
  3. ohtsistem
    ohtsistem 23 July 2015 12: 59
    +1
    And it is not profitable for pi-races to voice it as "snout into a gun" ..
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 23 July 2015 13: 01
    +6
    Perhaps the plane crash was deliberately organized by Kiev or one of the Ukrainian oligarchs in order to draw the anti-Kiev forces and Russia into a bloody war.

    American intelligence veterans clearly announced one of the main versions. Therefore, Washington is silent. But it is becoming increasingly difficult to blame Russia indiscriminately.
    1. Styx
      Styx 23 July 2015 13: 21
      +4
      Quote: rotmistr60
      announced one of the main versions

      To be honest, I didn’t have another one, only the version of a provocative setup, and it seems to be clumsily executed (it seems to me that the plane didn’t reach the point with the XY coordinates for a more definite interpretation, eternal shamelessness or lack of knowledge of the terrain the pilot did their stuffy thing lol )
  5. prabiz
    prabiz 23 July 2015 13: 02
    +5
    Aha! Now Obama will dig a hole for himself? There is so much blood on this "peacemaker" that it is impossible to wash it off in life! am
  6. evil partisan
    evil partisan 23 July 2015 13: 02
    +4
    Quote: Roman1970
    Yes, Obama does not care ...

    Yes, they don’t care at all about the true circumstances of the disaster. I hope that our military has enough arguments to prove Ukraine’s involvement in this crime and that these arguments will be presented at the right time. And these ex - respect and respect hi .
  7. ispaniard
    ispaniard 23 July 2015 13: 02
    +6
    Another question is whether this "Public Request" was initiated from the White House itself ...

    Meanwhile, in the Galaxy Distant, Distant ...:
    An anti-Semitic rally was held in the very center of Lviv, at which there were calls for pogroms (PHOTO, VIDEO)

    The heirs of Stepan Bandera are calling for “demolishing Jewish power” and are not sure that this should be done through civilized elections.

    Yesterday, July 22, a rally was held in the center of Lviv under the walls of the regional state administration, at which anti-Semitic slogans sounded, openly anti-Semitic banners were unfolded and calls for pogroms sounded.

    During speeches at rallies, they called for the removal of “Jewish power”, which consists of the “Jewish Mafia”. And to remove the power, according to them, it is necessary "by any means" and the organizers speaking at the rally "are not at all sure that this should be through elections."

    Interior Ministry officials who attended the rally did not interfere with this orgy. According to them, this could not be done, because the rally was officially agreed.




    The circle is closed ...

    Full article - http://rusvesna.su/news/1437640526
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 23 July 2015 13: 13
      +7
      Quote: ispaniard
      An anti-Semitic rally was held in the very center of Lviv, at which there were calls for pogroms

      You're lying! There is no fascism in Ukraine. This is Kiselev's propaganda shot at Mosfilm. repeat

      Greetings, Cantemir!hiOnly pogroms for their complete happiness and not enough. Although something surprising, since the heroes scum of the UPA.
      I wonder how the “Russian human rights activists” will react to this photo?
      And is there anti-Semitism in it? smile

      And in Kiev, Makarevich plays Yiddish-jazz!laughing
      1. Appraiser
        Appraiser 23 July 2015 16: 14
        +4
        As the saying goes: "A Jew shall not take out a Jew's eye" ...... yes
      2. dzvero
        dzvero 23 July 2015 17: 24
        +1
        things ... against the background of these photos, Poroshenko’s eventual request to Putin to send troops no longer seems like a joke ...
      3. sovetskyturist
        sovetskyturist 23 July 2015 18: 14
        +1
        The Jewish oligarchy brought the country to grips, so you shouldn’t be indignant, anti-Semitism however. One lady spoke on TV and convinced that there are many Jews in the PS, the synagogues are guarded, etc. They organized the second Palestine, however, in Russia there are purebred Gussky leaders. Human rights activists know whose the rights to protect will not be appropriate for the goyim however. Maybe it’s time to figure out who constantly provokes the massacre
        Jewish publications today are not at all embarrassed to say that it was through the hands of this ethnic-religious group, which occupied 66,6% of the NKVD, that the population of Ukraine was destroyed. We will add that this was the case throughout Russia. A few more facts about the genocide of the Russian people

        In 1918, after watching the practice of repressing the Cheka, the Menshevik Yu. Martov-Zederbaum told his relative L. Trotsky-Bronstein: “Leo! Tell Ilyich that you need to be more careful: after all, 150 Russians live in Russia, if you fight with repressions, then the time will come - you will have to answer! ” However, these words did not impress L. Trotsky, and he continued to act in the military department entrusted to him with "fire and iron."

        And even if according to official statistics as of 01.01.32, only in the Central Office of the NKVD Jews were 7,4%, Russians - 65%, while among the top leadership the ratio was different: Jews - 45%, Russians and other nationalities -55% then in the GULAG system all 100% of the leadership were exclusively Jews - until 1937–38 [1]. http://communitarian.ru/publikacii/istoriya_rossii/izrail_palach_ukrainy/
        “Israel is the executioner of Ukraine”
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    2. sovetskyturist
      sovetskyturist 23 July 2015 18: 31
      0
      They rally - and they’re doing it right, it’s time for everyone to take off their pink glasses, otherwise they brought the country. It’s time to drive the thieves out, and they drove them with their brothers to the massacre. Of the 450 deputies, more than 300 are persecuted, the owners of SMRAD are also from the office
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  8. sever.56
    sever.56 23 July 2015 13: 02
    +5
    The position of the people who wrote this letter is worthy of respect. But the trouble is that they will not be heard and will not be honored with an answer. Only senators and congressmen can demand that Obama publish intelligence data. But this is unrealistic, given the anti-Russian position of the vast majority of US politicians ...!
    To make public the REAL, TRUE information about who shot down the Boeing is tantamount to signing himself a death sentence, as a politician, to all the leaders of the Western powers.
    1. Star Huntsman
      Star Huntsman 23 July 2015 14: 14
      +2
      what is the verdict ?? Yes, they are all God's dew. in politics there has long been nobleness (((
  9. demo
    demo 23 July 2015 13: 09
    +2
    Of course, the former employee has room for maneuver.
    The acting is under oath.

    The silence of the United States and the reluctance to provide the data of its objective control will immediately put an end to the project "Ukraine" and will show who the real customer and director of this tragedy is.

    Do they need it?
  10. RUSIVAN
    RUSIVAN 23 July 2015 13: 13
    +2
    The NSA has its own agents, the best social network is a shop with grandmothers at the entrance.
    1. Appraiser
      Appraiser 23 July 2015 16: 19
      +1
      This is the most proven source of OBS information (One Grandma Said) .... bully
  11. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 23 July 2015 13: 15
    +7
    If there was real evidence against Russia and the militias, then the very next day (after the crash) they poked these data at all levels ... Everyone understands who benefits from this monstrous provocation! Now, with this tribunal, they screech from all the bushes ... They drag time, and then they just forget it!
  12. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 23 July 2015 13: 18
    +2
    It is not clear why they began to speak with the tribunal? Or figured out how to concoct compromising evidence? Some kind of muddy game, some investigate it is not clear that for a whole year, others speculate on this. If anyone remembers, they broke Merkel on this Boeing.
  13. little girl15
    little girl15 23 July 2015 13: 19
    +3
    Well, yes, the Chief Baboon took it and laid it all out. But how will it be washed?
  14. splinter666
    splinter666 23 July 2015 13: 25
    +1
    As they say, there are no former employees of special services.
    These brave guys can tell the world a lot about the NSA's work in terms of incriminating evidence, etc.
    This letter is not casual written (if it is written), maybe veterans know something?
    1. just exp
      just exp 23 July 2015 13: 27
      +3
      veterans know exactly what their countries are driving into a new world war. and they didn’t look at it in FIG.
  15. just exp
    just exp 23 July 2015 13: 26
    +3
    here are naive ...
  16. Igarr
    Igarr 23 July 2015 13: 38
    +2
    Well, we survived -
    quote - "Roman1970 RU Today, 12:57 New
    ... Democracy in the United States is a myth. ..... "
    No, not a myth, but a pure, naked, uncomplicated TRUTH. I am not afraid of this word - Naked truth.
    18 retirees, decided to tickle the nerves, myself, someone else. Show again freedom of speech.
    Once again stake out your rights.
    Staked.
    ...
    Well. and the US President - claimed his rights - to remain silent, not a word against himself, one call and a call to a lawyer.
    .
    All is fair.
    .
    I, too, can go out to Red Square and shout - Nixon is a mug. A joke is like a mammoth.
  17. msm
    msm 23 July 2015 13: 47
    +2
    Yes, Obama and the hedgehog with him - everyone knows for a long time. Ah, they are silent because the truth is against Ukraine
  18. sap
    sap 23 July 2015 13: 54
    +1
    Tryndezh! Skinners and lackeys are natural. Petty envious and petty. (two Lvivites served with me) No matter where they go. Although I would be the first to applaud standing if they at least halfway reached Kiev.
  19. Tor5
    Tor5 23 July 2015 14: 29
    0
    But the rest of the Shtatovs do not even suspect where Ukraine is and what is happening there, they do not care deeply, if only they would not affect them.
  20. HAM
    HAM 23 July 2015 14: 46
    +4
    We already went through it. It was exactly the same with the war of 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX., Unfounded accusations, a hysterical cry, and when Mishiko became unnecessary, Tbilisi confessed guilty pleasures in a quiet whisper through his teeth, but this is no longer interesting to anyone in Zapadenshchina. when Porshenko finally drinks the country and dies!
  21. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 23 July 2015 15: 31
    +2
    The information about this letter will not get into reputable mass media, for American democracy there is enough informational stuffing accusing Russia, written by the NSA staff, but not retired.
  22. Appraiser
    Appraiser 23 July 2015 16: 18
    +1
    You might think that now Obama will rush directly to publish intelligence data on flight MH 17. They already, thank God, have been shit everywhere, but here the Boeing was shot down with their blessing .... yes
  23. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 23 July 2015 16: 48
    +1
    The downed Boeing played a key role in unleashing sanctions, and you want to know the truth ??? It’s only Russia and Malaysia who are seeking the truth. The rest know it and hell when they admit, they will stir up it for about 5 years and then let it go on the brakes, that is, they will come up with some other virus like Ebola which they quickly dealt with / don’t eat monkeys and you won’t get sick / .
  24. meriem1
    meriem1 23 July 2015 17: 19
    +1
    Quote: PANEL VDVshny
    Retired again ... wassat
    As in the service, so Pskaki, as in retirement - so cut the truth, uterus laughing


    But still, there is something in this !!! The letters are open, not written by the last people and there is pressure on the electorate. The truth is getting harder to hide, and the elections are coming soon!
  25. Mercenary
    Mercenary 23 July 2015 17: 52
    +2
    Everyone miraculously forgot that 30 minutes earlier Ukraine flew overboard No. 1 over Ukraine. Soon the warriors were scared .. to the fullest, but the mattresses did not have time to transfer to mov, that board No. 1 changed course to Belarus.
  26. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 23 July 2015 18: 01
    0
    The letter was signed by 16 senior officers - ex-NSA officers.
    And why the names of these American officers are not given.16 ... but this is a "riot on the ship" and a scandal comparable to "Iran-Contra". I think that the specific names of the signers would add density and expression to this still life. And why the Western press. Although it was bought with giblets and is completely tendentious, why is there complete silence? They do not run past such scandals, and here there is not a single link, not a single name.
  27. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 23 July 2015 19: 06
    +3
    Why ask? And so it is clear that the American special services knew about the Boeing crash a month before the crash.
  28. hartlend
    hartlend 23 July 2015 20: 11
    0
    "In the United States, apparently, only former intelligence officers can afford to be interested in the truth."
    And not only in the USA.
  29. dakka-dakka
    dakka-dakka 23 July 2015 22: 25
    -1
    open sources our everything
  30. RUS33
    RUS33 23 July 2015 23: 32
    0
    Quote: Baikonur
    This is not the point! The Boeing was shot down in order to blame Russia! How can they publish incriminating evidence on UKRs (for themselves! After all, it’s for sure - they prepared a setup that the URCs couldn’t perform normally, deby!)!

    All former NSA officers were most likely involved in similar operations and know quite a lot about it.
    Just a conscience stuck. I'm tired of keeping everything in ourselves, but they can’t tell it all (non-disclosure subscription).
    For them, the best option is for the current authorities to say this, then their hands will be untied. And we will learn a lot of interesting things.
  31. Third kalach
    Third kalach 24 July 2015 12: 53
    0
    Mercenary SU  Yesterday, 17:52


    Everyone miraculously forgot that 30 minutes earlier Ukraine flew overboard No. 1 over Ukraine. Soon the warriors were scared .. to the fullest, but the mattresses did not have time to transfer to mov, that board No. 1 changed course to Belarus. - Yes and yes again, they forgot what the true goal was and quickly concocted that the militia was to blame ... (IMHO)