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The head of the Chechen Republic, Ramzan Kadyrov, visited Saudi Arabia, where he met with the ministers of defense, foreign affairs, a representative of the ministry of culture, the heads of the king’s administration and the state security service. According to Kadyrov, the Minister of Defense of Saudi Arabia highly appreciated the experience of Chechnya in the fight against terrorism.



Following the trip to Saudi Arabia, the head of the Chechen Republic, Ramzan Kadyrov, said on Instagram that Saudi Defense Minister Mohammed bin Salman praised Chechnya’s experience in the fight against terrorism.

"Mohammed bin Salman praised the experience of the Chechen Republic in combating terrorism, extremism and economic development", - Kadyrov quotes RIA News".

According to the head of Chechnya, which the agency cites, the Minister of Defense of Saudi Arabia announced his decision to send delegations to the Chechen Republic to exchange experience. Already in September, the Foreign Minister of the Kingdom will arrive in the region. In addition, a delegation led by the Saudi Minister of Religious Affairs is expected to arrive in Chechnya. This delegation intends to study the local experience in the fight against terrorism and extremism.

The head of the Chechen Republic, Ramzan Kadyrov, is an important figure in the Muslim world. He plays a significant role in strengthening friendship between the Arab countries of the Middle East and Russia. Deputy Chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee of the Council of the Federation Ziyad Sabsabi, answering the questions of journalists of the TV channel LifeNews, he noted that Eastern leaders understand: the word of Kadyrov can be trusted. They also understand that Russia is a reliable partner.

“The instruction of the King of Saudi Arabia to open the Kaaba for Ramzan Kadyrov’s mother says a lot. There has been no such case in the last 25 years. Such a goodwill gesture in relation to Kadyrov’s mother and the entire Chechen people in her person speaks of the great respect that Saudi Arabia treats our whole country, ”Ziyad Sabsabi said. According to him, Ramzan Kadyrov continues the policy of his father, aimed at strengthening the partnership of Russia with the countries of the Muslim world. "... Ramzan Kadyrov continues this line, which, naturally, is coordinated with the federal center, aimed at strengthening relations with those countries that with their investments can bring much benefit to our economy in the context of sanctions announced by the West," the Senator told LifeNews.

“Saudi Arabia now intends to establish relations with Russia as soon as possible, to put them on the right track, in order to further develop the partnership. The Minister of Defense and Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman told Kadyrov about this, the senator noted. - The fact is that not only in Saudi Arabia, but also in other Arab countries, the younger generation is now taking power, and they see that Russia is in fact a reliable partner. Russia has stable principles and position, we can be trusted, unlike the United States, which could not at the last summit of the Gulf countries give guarantees of the security of their partners. Therefore, in the Arab world there is an adjustment of the foreign policy. They are not leaving America, but they also want to have a backup option in the form of Russia. ”

In the process of integration of Russia and the Arab world, Kadyrov’s role is very large, the expert believes: “The role of Ramzan Kadyrov is very important here. Let's talk as it is. Ramzan Akhmatovich is a true Muslim believer. He is a man who keeps his word and keeps promises. This fact is very important in the East, when you can not conclude an agreement on paper, but simply to be sure of what your partner said. All this will give Russia a lot. In the future, this can ensure the recovery of the country's economy as a whole and individual regions as well. In particular, we have every reason to expect Arab investments in the Chechen Republic, because our Eastern partners see what kind of relationship binds Chechnya and the federal center and how close in spirit Ramzan Kadyrov and Russian President Vladimir Putin are. ”

What do political scientists and military experts think about the upcoming visits of Saudi representatives to Chechnya?

“We know more than a dozen Arab conflicts, including the Palestinian-Israeli. They are dried, but I can not say that they are finished, - told the newspaper "Sight" Abdulla Istamulov, political scientist, advisor to the head of the administration of Kadyrov. - There is no experience of “positive” completion of the conflict. In the Chechen Republic, approaches have been found in the force variant of solving the problem - to win the battle, the battle - and the ideological component, the non-force methods of counteraction. Here we see a certain completeness of the conflict. There is a successful result. This is the only such experience in the last 10-15 years worldwide. Most likely, this gives the Saudis to see, draw conclusions and learn something. ”

The assessment of Kadyrov’s advisor to the administration is shared by the former head of the Israeli “Nativ” special services, Yakov Kedmi. “The war in Chechnya ended not only and not so much thanks to the actions of the Russian army and special services, but also thanks to the competent work of the authorities who won the support of the Chechens themselves,” he told the publication. “Similar problems exist in Saudi Arabia.”

The newspaper “Vzglyad” cites some details about the Chechen delegation’s last visit to Saudi Arabia.

Oleg Ozerov, the Russian ambassador to Saudi Arabia, told the publication that a Chechens visit to the kingdom was organized at the request of Kadyrov: “King Salman fulfilled the request of the head of Chechnya. Ramzan Akhmatovich conveyed this request through the successor to the crown prince, Minister of Defense Mohammed bin Salman during his stay in St. Petersburg in mid-June. Ramzan Akhmatovich asked the minister to urge the king to open the Kaaba’s doors to his mother, Aymani Nisievna, unplanned. ”

According to the ambassador, who participated in the meeting in Jeddah, it was held in a friendly atmosphere: “These are not protocol words. When there is a reception according to the royal protocol, then there are special honors. In addition, almost all of the central and Jeddian newspapers paid attention to the visit for two days. There was also a message from the official agency. ”

Recall that the sovereign fund of Saudi Arabia, Public Investment Fund (PIF), intends to invest 10 billion dollars in Russia, for which it creates a partnership with the Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF). This was in July told the newspaper "Vedomosti" Kirill Dmitriev, the general director of the Russian Federal Pedagogical Institute.

All the others turned away from Russia, and Arab investors, on the contrary, go to Russia, a top manager of a global investment bank points out.

Direct investment in Russia for 2014 for the year amounted to 21 billion dollars, Vedomosti reports, and for the last two quarters of 2015, for the first time in many years, a net outflow was recorded (see the histogram).

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Foreign direct investment in the Russian Federation


“Until now, Saudi investors have been wary of us, but personal interaction between Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia Muhammad bin Salman and President Vladimir Putin at the St. Petersburg Forum has affected them,” says Dmitriev.

10 billion will be invested over 4-5 years, he hopes. Dmitriev notes that this is the largest partnership of foundations in the world.

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  1. -6
    25 July 2015 05: 28
    Kadyrov completely rolled off the coils, went to the CA, the main sponsor of terrorism. Did he decide to pursue an independent foreign policy?
    1. +10
      25 July 2015 06: 24
      Canep, each country is looking for its own benefits, do not be afraid, we will not become friends with the Saudis.
      1. +39
        25 July 2015 06: 50
        Quote: Canep
        SA, the main sponsor of terrorism

        This is just politics, a game. The SA sponsors what the owner ordered, and this is where their power rests. As the owner changes, they will immediately stop sponsoring terrorism and now they are investing 10 billions in Russia, and they’re like a half to nuclear power plants (Rosatom will build). Feel it? Vooot. And a conversation with Kadyrov is just an agreement with the new owner (or partner), it’s just that Putin himself will not negotiate with them, but his loyal assistant and a Muslim.
        1. +7
          25 July 2015 12: 08
          Even, I hope that in the future Kadyrov will be a bridge and shield of Russia with the Muslim world!
          1. +2
            25 July 2015 23: 14
            And where will he go from a submarine.
        2. +10
          25 July 2015 12: 10
          Quote: crazyrom
          CA sponsors what the owner ordered

          The owner made a deal with Iran (to stay in Iraq and Afghanistan, because Iran’s influence there is growing, and the United States is weakening to the same extent, plus allowing laughing to buy Iranian oil, which is disastrously ending), and Iran is waging war with the Sauds through Yemen, it is clear that the Saudis entered the war under pressure from the USA and then they merged ... Another problem is that the sons of Aziz Saud ascended the throne by seniority, and the current the youngest is the last, but old and sick. Here he dies, and then? Should his son ascend to the throne or the eldest son of an older brother? They are neither the first nor the last, like the descendants of Temujin, the descendants of Monomakh, etc., will tear the kingdom and cut each other, and the Hussites will not be asleep, the SA will collapse, other Arab kingdoms will collapse (Emirates, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrai, Jordan, etc. ) This will happen inevitably and Shiites will dominate naturally, in which the United States (as the inevitable Kurdistan) is now ready to buy oil, it is more important ...
          Quote: Canep
          Kadyrov completely off the coils

          Without a GDP team, he would not have decided, most of the money going to Chechnya went to intelligence and subversive activities in the Arab countries (in response to their actions in the Caucasus), there are millions of diasporas of Muhajirs related to the Chechens and Circassians, including the personal guard of the King of Jordan and relatives of the Saudis themselves (through wives). Naturally, Orthodox Slavs work hard there - this is a clanish, fanatical world, but for the Highlanders it’s its own ... positive results in person ...
          1. +4
            25 July 2015 17: 11
            Quote: hrych
            Without a GDP team, he would not have dared


            Definitely - it’s not that I didn’t dare - there is simply a vertical of power - and Kadyrov just did it. what the Security Council ordered
            1. +3
              25 July 2015 19: 43
              Quote: Talgat
              Definitely - it’s not that I didn’t dare - there’s simply a vertical of power - and Kadyrov just did what the Security Council ordered
              Well, Talgat came and "ruined" everything lol
              But how beautifully everything was furnished! .. Hajj, opening of the Kaaba for mom .. Yeah, picture! And you - "order-ali" .. FU! What bad manners! lol
      2. +23
        25 July 2015 08: 27
        Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer.
        Strategy and wisdom ...
    2. +2
      25 July 2015 06: 38
      One side is a hotbed of terrorism, the other is fighting it. What is the exchange of experience? Surely this is a smokescreen for something more serious.
      1. +13
        25 July 2015 08: 25
        Quote: oleg-gr
        One side is a hotbed of terrorism, the other is fighting it. What is the exchange of experience? Surely this is a smokescreen for something more serious.

        Russia will mediate between Iran and the SA.
        Iran - will leave the support of the Hussites, the SA will get out of Syria
        10bn - it’s clear that this is not an investment at all - it’s a direct payment, and the Saudis pay only for their interests (otherwise how?)
        Russia from the point of view of investments (now) is absolutely not attractive - rating (garbage) decline, production, sanctions, and therefore not from the kindness of the soul and concern for the Russian economy, the SA is ready to invest
        Gives money - it means agreed, then agreed in the right way for the SA, this does not mean that it is not profitable for Russia, but that it is beneficial for the CA is definitely
        1. +9
          25 July 2015 10: 29
          Quote: atalef
          Russia will act as a mediator between Iran and the SA. Iran - will leave the support of the Hussites, the SA will get out of Syria 10 billion - it’s clear that this is not an investment at all - this is a direct payment, and the Saudis pay only for their interests (otherwise how?)

          Why so sure that the payment went for the Iran-Syria treaty?
          1. -6
            25 July 2015 10: 36
            Quote: APASUS
            Why so sure that the payment went for the Iran-Syria treaty?

            Just a hunch
            You understand that talking about investing in the economy (generally investing to make a profit) is simply ridiculous.
            You know, investments mean a business project (at least) and the lava _ the exchange reacts accordingly (and this is understandable) (which was not noticed), and therefore
            1. It is not connected with investments in any way
            2.Money received at the direct disposal of the Ministry of Finance - without a clear business plan, which means they are simply donated
            3. I don’t believe that SA took the roost and gave 10 lards out of kindness
            By the way, the Hussites paused, how do you explain this? Already, officials in Aden have returned (with the Saudis, of course)
            1. +9
              25 July 2015 12: 59
              Quote: atalef
              You understand that talking about investing in the economy (generally investing to make a profit) is simply ridiculous.

              That is, in Russia it is impossible to make a profit? Oh! Tell this to the French Total, Renault, and another good hundreds of large foreign companies investing out of love for Russia.
              Quote: atalef
              You know investment means a business project (at least)

              So in the news it says about INTENTIONS to invest in various projects for 3-4 years. These are just INTENTIONS.
              Quote: atalef
              the exchange reacts accordingly (and this is understandable) (which was not noticed)

              How, for example, should the exchange react to SA's intentions to invest 10 billion in the Russian economy? For a moment, this is only 2,5 billion a year, while last year at least 20 billion were invested by foreigners. What indicators can you indicate?
              Quote: atalef
              Money received at the direct disposal of the Ministry of Finance

              I hear it for the first time. Could you provide a link from an official source, or at least a reliable one? What is the amount?
              1. -8
                25 July 2015 13: 10
                Quote: andrewvlg
                about is it impossible to make a profit in Russia?

                It is possible, but so risky that money runs from Russia - I think you have no doubt about it
                Quote: andrewvlg
                ! Tell this to French Total, Renault and hundreds of other large foreign companies investing out of love for Russia.

                Please confirm the facts, especially in the Renault part.
                total wants to invest, but through Chinese funds, the problem is that Chinese funds do not really want to
                Well, about the remaining hundreds - I hope you tell me yourself.
                If there is something solid there, maybe I will invest?
                Quote: andrewvlg
                So in the news it says about INTENTIONS to invest in various projects for 3-4 years. These are just INTENTIONS.

                Intentions. and the money has almost been transferred.
                Do you know how a royal fund differs from ordinary investment funds?
                In investment funds - investor money - therefore, every 4 months it is obliged to report on the entire investment portfolio
                The royal fund contains the king’s money, he is not obliged to report to anyone and transparency is not necessary - therefore, you can give money and write about - INTENTIONS. Where did we go?
                Quote: andrewvlg
                How, for example, should the exchange react to SA's intentions to invest 10 billion in the Russian economy?

                Raising shares of invested enterprises or concerns
                Quote: andrewvlg
                For a moment, this is only 2,5 billion a year, while last year at least 20 billion were invested by foreigners

                Big money, 10% of all world investments in Russia
                Quote: andrewvlg
                I hear it for the first time. Could you provide a link from an official source, or at least a reliable one? What is the amount?

                Shares on exchanges did not jerk. RTS index continued to fall. What else to say?
                1. +3
                  25 July 2015 13: 42
                  Once again, I humbly ask you to provide a reliable source confirming your words:
                  Quote: atalef
                  2.Money received at the direct disposal of the Ministry of Finance - without a clear business plan, which means they are simply donated

                  Quote: atalef
                  Please confirm the facts, especially in the Renault part.

                  ... One of the most significant projects was the launch of a new production line in Togliatti by Renault-Nissan. The world famous manufacturer has invested about 16 billion rubles in the project. For the first time, the company began investing in the Russian economy back in 2008, having bought part of AvtoVAZ shares ..... Source: http://maybe-invest.ru/inostrannyie-investoryi/krupneyshie-inostrannyie-investor
                  yi-v-rossii.html
                  The list of hundreds of foreign investors takes up too much space, but if you wish, I will put it in parts.
                  Quote: atalef
                  Raising shares of invested enterprises or concerns

                  This is a tin, SA intends to invest, specific projects are not defined. Framework agreement!
                  Suppose the Arabs of the SA want to build a refinery in Chechnya. For this, it will be possible to create a new OJSC, or you can invest in conjunction with Russian and foreign companies. For example, Shell, Rosneft and AramCo. How does this affect the shares of giants? No way, especially since the price is more affected by oil prices than the project of some refinery.
                  However, you first write what amount "went to the Ministry of Finance" with a link to a reliable source, please.
                  hi
                  1. -8
                    25 July 2015 14: 10
                    Quote: andrewvlg
                    One of the most significant projects was the launch of a new production line in Togliatti by Renault-Nissan. The world famous manufacturer has invested about 16 billion rubles in the project. For the first time, a company began investing in the Russian economy back in 2008д

                    You were not mistaken for a year? In the yard of 2015. The last Renault investment in Russia was in 2013.
                    Quote: andrewvlg
                    The list of hundreds of foreign investors takes up too much space, but if you wish, I will put it in parts

                    please indicate only a year and preferably how many capitals were withdrawn from Russia in 2014-15.

                    Quote: andrewvlg
                    This is a tin, SA intends to invest, specific projects are not defined.

                    Here I am about
                    Quote: andrewvlg
                    Suppose the Arabs of the SA want to build a refinery in Chechnya.

                    Shares of enterprises manufacturing Neftekhim will jump.
                    Quote: andrewvlg
                    Chechnya. For this, it will be possible to create a new OJSC, or you can invest in conjunction with Russian and foreign companies. For example, Shell, Rosneft and AramCo

                    Do not forget about sanctions, there are no joint enterprises - only local
                    Quote: andrewvlg
                    . How does this affect the shares of giants?

                    It’s very good, as in the financial reports of these - which they publish every 4 months - indicating where the investment is from
                    Quote: andrewvlg
                    No way, especially since the price is more affected by oil prices than the project of some refinery.

                    Neither mix = nor mix
                    Quote: andrewvlg
                    However, you first write what amount "went to the Ministry of Finance" with a link to a reliable source, please.

                    but this is all obscured by secrecy, that's why * investments 8 are fairy tales.
                    Money goes directly, but for what? Your version?
                    1. +2
                      25 July 2015 14: 52
                      Quote: atalef
                      please indicate only a year and preferably how many capitals were withdrawn from Russia in 2014-15.

                      Brought out, yes. I argued that in the Russian Federation there are profitable projects, you prove to me that from the point of view of foreign countries. they are risky investors. I agree with that.
                      I just want to emphasize that because framework agreements are concluded at the level of governments and ministries - in order to guarantee investors support and free movement of funds, return on profits. And there is a huge difference between the framework agreements and the start of investments in any projects.
                      Quote: atalef
                      Shares of enterprises manufacturing Neftekhim will jump.

                      Is this with a general drop in demand for oil products (and equipment as a consequence of a drop in demand)? Moreover, the equipment may be imported.
                      Quote: atalef
                      Do not forget about sanctions, there are no joint enterprises - only local

                      The ban applies only to deep-water drilling projects (for the USA), as far as I know. But the Arabs did not join the sanctions at all, did they?
                      Quote: atalef
                      Neither mix = nor mix

                      While the price of oil will decline, the shares will not begin to grow due to the announcement of the project.
                      Take Power of Siberia, for example, that Gazprom shares skyrocketed when China announced the deal and offered financial participation? The volume of work there was worth 100 billion. But the price of oil at that moment was very high.
                      What about the 1-2 billion project and the downtrend in oil prices?
                      Quote: atalef
                      Money goes directly, but for what? Your version?

                      My version is that money is not coming, and may not come at all. This is just an announcement.
                2. +1
                  26 July 2015 11: 07
                  From Israel it is, how to say ... See! laughing
            2. +1
              25 July 2015 14: 32
              Quote: atalef
              Just guesses, you understand that talking about investing in the economy (generally investing in order to make a profit) is simply ridiculous.

              The question of reassigning Iran’s nuclear program at key points more comes to my mind. In short, Russia has signed up to Iran not getting a nuclear bomb, which you agree has a real price for this region.
              1. -6
                25 July 2015 14: 37
                Quote: APASUS
                The question of reassigning Iran’s nuclear program to key points more comes to my mind.

                And why does Russia need nuclear Iran at hand.
                I'm not talking about the problems (which will arise) with the NPT, Saudi Arabia, the world community, and confidence in Russia as a co-founder of the NPT. I say simply - nuclear Iran, Russia's neighbor, is ruled by an ayatollah
                Quote: APASUS
                In short, Russia has signed up to the fact that Iran will not receive a nuclear bomb, which you agree has a real price for this region.

                But this may take place, but why in general is it?
                and what is the relationship with CA?
              2. +3
                25 July 2015 16: 28
                Quote: APASUS
                The question of reassigning Iran’s nuclear program to key points comes to my mind more.

                But we must remember that in the region there is an Israeli regime that possesses nuclear weapons and is extremely unpredictable, besides it is a faithful satellite of the United States, and in the event of any friction with Washington, our country risks a nuclear strike from Tel Aviv.
                We urgently need to take the atomic bomb from Israel of this super-aggressive regime, which, along with the Wahhabis of the SA, remains the most reactionary in the BV region.
                1. -4
                  25 July 2015 18: 57
                  Hello, uv. Mr. Vatnik, how I love your original posts! Immediately the mood rises. How to read something like:
                  Quote: quilted jacket
                  Urgently, by any possible means, to take the atomic bomb from Israel of this super-aggressive regime

                  , so laugh and makes out. And let me be curious: what are these "any possible ways" and who will take it, from whom such a pick-up can grow? Or are you so, for the catchphrase? Here is the mister quilted jacket does not like Israel, therefore, - to take, punish, and generally grind into powder. And they said that you do not drink.
                  1. +2
                    25 July 2015 19: 47
                    Quote: Arestant
                    Hello, uv. mister quilted jacket

                    Call me right - dear mister quilted jacket keep going smile
                    Quote: Arestant
                    And let me be curious: what are these "any possible ways" and who will take it, from whom such a pick-up can grow?

                    Your "master" USA will order you and give it to you.
                    Quote: Arestant
                    That doesn’t like Mr. Vatnik Israel, therefore, to pick up, punish, and generally wipe into powder.

                    Well, nobody is going to wash you into powder.
                    And I "don't like" all the "deranged" regimes like Israel or Saudi Arabia and terrorist groups "grown" by them like IS, Al-Nusra, Al-Qaeda, etc.
        2. +16
          25 July 2015 11: 02
          Quote: atalef
          Russia in terms of investment (now) - absolutely not attractive - rating (junk)

          Garbage ratings of Russia, today riveted garbage (pocket) rating companies that serve the interests of the United States. Despite the fact that Russia has sufficient gold reserves and minimal public debt, the garbage rating is simply an element of the economic war against Russia.
          You can trust them no more than a thief recidivist entrust the keys to the safe with money
          1. -12
            25 July 2015 11: 08
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Garbage ratings of Russia, today riveted garbage (pocket) rating companies that serve the interests of the United States.

            Tales of the first channel
            When Russia was on the rise and received high credit ratings - like no one in Russia talked about pocket and managed agencies
            11.01.2011/XNUMX/XNUMX Fitch Upgrades Credit Rating Russia by 1 point (up to BBB +). Of course, this is a landmark event for our country. The rating of our state was raised for a reason. And you don’t live very well.
            This decision was a response to the fact that Russia paid off debts to the Paris Club ahead of schedule in the amount of $ 22 billion. By the end of the year, Russia's external debt will be only $ 45 billion. In addition to improving the position on external debt, Fitch’s decision was undoubtedly affected by the decision on the full convertibility of the ruble, which entered into effective July 1, which became a signal of greater openness of the Russian economy.

            and this is 2000
            The international rating agency Fitch IBCA has raised the rating of Russian Eurobonds by two positions - from CCC to B-. According to Interfax, the short-term foreign exchange rating of Russia was also raised - from "C" to "B". At the same time, the agency keeps the ratings under control with the possibility of their further increase.

            The risk of default on Russian Eurobonds has significantly decreased over the past 18 months, according to a Fitch IBCA press release, due to economic growth, an increase in the country's gold and foreign exchange reserves, and progress in the settlement of relations with creditors.

            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Despite the fact that Russia has sufficient gold reserves and minimal public debt, the garbage rating is simply an element of the economic war against Russia.

            In Ethiopia, the public debt is 3 times lower than the Russian - and?
            By the way about gold reserves, you yourself read how much decreased over the year?
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            You can trust them no more than a thief recidivist entrust the keys to the safe with money

            As you like, in general the truth is rarely liked, especially if it goes against the position of the First Channel.
            1. +6
              25 July 2015 11: 23
              It's just some kind of extravaganza. The philosophy "steal a box of vodka, sell it, and drink the money" in your performance.
              Let it be known to you, dear, that the Russian Federation loses much more than 10 billion on the lifting of sanctions from Iran (which the CA will still have to give). The opening of the oil and gas market for Iran has already led to a decrease in prices, this is the lost profit from the sale of hydrocarbons. That is, to go for a net loss of 10-20 billion in exchange for 10 LOANS for 3-4 years is FAVORABLE ?!
              You don’t understand that Russia deliberately goes to the loss of income in order to stabilize the situation around Iran.
              "bought, sold" - that's all your head will give birth to.
              1. -8
                25 July 2015 11: 37
                Quote: andrewvlg
                and you will know, dear, that the Russian Federation loses much more than 10 billion on the lifting of sanctions from Iran (which still need to be given to the SA).

                The problem with Iran will certainly lose more, Russia has a complete impasse regarding Iran - support the lifting of sanctions - lose oil revenues, against - lose Iran
                In general, when both moves and both into the swamp.
                But this does not negate the fact that 10 Saudi Lard is a plus. not minus the same as with Iran
                Quote: andrewvlg
                about to go for a net loss of 10-20 billion in exchange for 10 LOANS for 3-4 years FAVORABLE ?!

                10 Lard is not a loan, and I do not see any connection between the (nuclear) deal with Iran and the Saudi 10 Lard.
                If the West had not initiated an agreement with Iran. Russia would have lived perfectly with this. but there was nowhere to go. The states agreed, Russia simply could not say no


                Quote: andrewvlg
                You don’t understand that Russia deliberately goes to the loss of income in order to stabilize the situation around Iran.

                em, it’s not clear, nor is it clear why Russia needs it (and where is the margin? as the great and terrible said) - for the well-being of the Iranian people laughing , or will Russians become better off with falling oil prices? Interesting altruism
                Quote: andrewvlg
                bought, sold "- that's all your head will give birth to

                Money, you know no one just gives
                Money is generally a mediator in an operation - boil-sell, and not for kindling bonfires.
                especially when there are sworn friends in the form of Russia - Saudi Arabia and 10 billion background hi
                1. +5
                  25 July 2015 13: 09
                  Quote: atalef
                  Russia had a complete impasse regarding Iran - support the lifting of sanctions - lose oil revenues, against - lose Iran

                  If you proceed from the position of pragmatism, then decipher what it means to "lose Iran"? Iran "under sanctions" is even more "amenable to the influence" of the Russian Federation than without sanctions.
                  Quote: atalef
                  Uh, it’s not clear, and it’s not clear why Russia needs it (and where is the margin? as the great and terrible said) - for the well-being of the Iranian people laughing, or will the Russians live better with falling oil prices? Interesting altruism

                  That is, in the first paragraph, you pathetically appeal to ethical considerations (“to lose Iran,” although the sanctions just tied Iran to Russia), and in the second, you laugh at them.
                  1. -2
                    25 July 2015 13: 30
                    Quote: andrewvlg
                    If you proceed from the positions of pragmatism, then decipher what it means to "lose Iran"?

                    And how would Iran react if Russia voted against it when voting in the UN Security Council on sanctions?
                    Quote: andrewvlg
                    Iran "under sanctions" is even more "amenable to the influence" of the Russian Federation than without sanctions.

                    What influence? Iran was disconnected from SWIFT, etc. etc.
                    Quote: andrewvlg
                    That is, in the first paragraph, you pathetically appeal to ethical considerations (“to lose Iran,” although the sanctions just tied Iran to Russia), and in the second, you laugh at them.

                    No, I say that the situation with Iran in modern conditions - for Russia was happy deadlock and bad. Moreover, both decisions
                    It's like you can’t have mercy.
                    Where not to throw - everywhere a wedge.
                    1. +1
                      25 July 2015 13: 59
                      Quote: atalef
                      And how would Iran react if Russia voted against it when voting in the UN Security Council on sanctions?

                      Suppose Iran would not like it - what next?
                      On one side of the scale, the loss of tens of billions, on the other the discontent of Iran, Mr. Pragmatist, explain what material losses would lead to the discontent of Iran. Otherwise, your constructions are meaningless. Moreover, one could not have been brought to a vote, since not all political forces in Iran and the rest of the world were ready to make a deal. Where is the logic in your constructions?
                      1. -4
                        25 July 2015 14: 13
                        Quote: andrewvlg
                        Suppose Iran would not like it - what next?

                        Nothing, Russia has so many friends now, would lose another
                        Quote: andrewvlg
                        On one side of the scale, the loss of tens of billions, on the other the discontent of Iran, Mr. Pragmatist, explain what material losses would lead to the discontent of Iran

                        Read above
                        NPP and so on - you can buy it from Siemens
                        Quote: andrewvlg
                        Moreover, one could not have brought to a vote,

                        belay But what is it like?
                        Quote: andrewvlg
                        since not all political forces in Iran and the rest of the world were ready to make a deal

                        Laughed, name the opponents (well, except for Israel)
                        Quote: andrewvlg
                        Where is the logic in your constructions?

                        From start to finish
                2. +2
                  25 July 2015 16: 48
                  Quote: atalef
                  Money, you know no one just gives

                  You think narrowly, Levoslavny. The USSR spent "just like that" hundreds of billions to support African, Latin American and Asian countries, sort of like a loan, but everyone understood the impossibility of repayment.
                  And I'm sorry, your position on the position of Iran by the axis of evil is extremely close, if not stupid (considering that you are not an interested person wink ) De facto, Russia is much closer to Iran, albeit with its own ambitions, than the US-controlled chaos represented by ISIS. Of the two evils you need to choose the smallest. hi
              2. 0
                25 July 2015 13: 08
                Quote: andrewvlg
                in exchange for 10 LOANS

                For the hundredth time, I repeat: investment and credit are two different things.

                In the case of the 10th lard, it’s kind of like investing, no? wink

                Quote: andrewvlg
                which still need to be given to CA

                Sure Is not a fact..

                That's just the difference ...
                1. -1
                  25 July 2015 13: 49
                  In the case of a loan, and in the case of an investment, the lender and investor expect to make a profit. Here is from (c) Wikipedia:
                  Investments - investing capital for the purpose of making a profit .... From loans, investments differ in the degree of risk for the investor (lender) - the loan and interest must be returned on time, regardless of the profitability of the project, investments (invested capital) are returned and bring income only in profitable projects . If the project is unprofitable, investments may be lost in whole or in part.
                  I’ll add from myself that the loan may not be repaid in whole or in part.
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    4. +27
      25 July 2015 06: 40
      Russia will not have friends.

      They say that even Montenegro joins NATO ...

      But allies (even tactical ones) are very necessary for our country.
      Yes, the Saudis are enemies. But it looks like a financial storm is near.

      When the forest fires, the animals run away together and do not touch each other.

      Therefore, it is important to destroy the hostile chain of states around Russia.
    5. +22
      25 July 2015 06: 53
      Kadyrov does what Russia needs. And then, he is a state man and it is unlikely that his trip to the SA was not agreed with Moscow.
      About sponsorship of terrorism:
      -And what do you want to continue this way? Kadyrov is a respected figure and he will surely try to convince the Saudis that it is more profitable to cooperate with Russia than to live on the counter.
      And you are MINEER, be careful when talking about such people. negative
      1. +9
        25 July 2015 09: 56
        Kadyrov official, civil servant, everything he does
        or voiced, developed, or endorsed by
        top.
      2. +1
        25 July 2015 13: 37
        Quote: Semyonitch
        Kadyrov does what Russia needs.

        Kadyrov does what he needs.

        Quote: Semyonitch
        he is a state man


        Kadyrov is the head of one region. And those who sit at federal posts are considered to be a person of state scale.


        According to Kadyrov, the Minister of Defense of Saudi Arabia praised the experience of Chechnya in the fight against terrorism.


        Well, of course, Kadyrov’s experience in such matters is enormous. Still, the 20 thousandth personal army
    6. +2
      25 July 2015 07: 05
      "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer"
    7. +3
      25 July 2015 07: 32
      Quote: Canep
      Kadyrov completely rolled off the coils, went to the CA, the main sponsor of terrorism. Did he decide to pursue an independent foreign policy?

      Why did he go to us, we probably don’t understand, but we still have to look for people who no longer love one another. After all, Kadyrov very seriously pressed the Wahhabis sponsored including from Saudi Arabia. The same is a shame for the wasted money and efforts.
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    9. +7
      25 July 2015 09: 24
      And why are our sheikhs worse than Saudi laughing

      1. +1
        25 July 2015 12: 44
        Kadyrov cannot be trusted. He will bet. He swears his personal allegiance to Putin. There are no guarantees in the format of Kadyrov. The bureaucracy always pursues exclusively selfish goals, it does not give a damn about the master. Who will give more. Under that lies.
    10. 0
      25 July 2015 17: 02
      I can not stand Kadyrov, but here he is in his own right. The subjects of the Russian Federation have the right to independent external relations on certain issues (trade, investment, culture, science, etc.).
      The rejection of course causes the recent past of the Czech Republic and the reputation of the Saudis.
      1. 0
        25 July 2015 18: 29
        Quote: SibSlavRus
        Subjects of the Russian Federation

        Subjects. But these are bureaucrats. And in our capitalist reality, ......
        where will they move? That's right ..... Who will pay more.
    11. +1
      25 July 2015 19: 30
      Quote: Canep
      Kadyrov completely rolled off the coils, went to the CA, the main sponsor of terrorism. Did he decide to pursue an independent foreign policy?

      He hasn’t moved anywhere; this is his shadow policy ...
  2. +15
    25 July 2015 05: 31
    Greetings to all! Kadyrov, apparently, is the ambassador from RUSSIA, as a fellow believer with the Saudis. Quite a few questions were raised at the meeting of the GDP with the son of the king, agreements on some were concluded. However, it is necessary to strengthen. hi
    1. +3
      25 July 2015 08: 25
      But is it not surprising to you that such contracts from the SA came against the backdrop of the successes of the army of New Russia and Syria (with the active support of the Russian Federation, albeit not official)? As for me, the CA is an intermediary between the US and the Russian Federation, where the CA executes a modest bribe giver.

      PS This is my personal opinion.
      1. -4
        25 July 2015 09: 02
        Quote: sanain
        But you are not surprised that such contracts from the SA came against the backdrop of the successes of the army of New Russia and Syria

        Success in Syria and New Russia?
        How is the weather in an alternative universe?
        Quote: sanain
        As for me, the CA is an intermediary between the US and the Russian Federation, where the CA executes a modest bribe giver.

        Ie the Russian Federation received a bribe of 9 in your opinion) - for what?
        1. +1
          25 July 2015 11: 10
          As far as I remember, NOT a troll, but hesitated ... And don’t yell at me. laughing
        2. +2
          25 July 2015 11: 48
          Do you feel the sense? The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has no common borders.
          1. -2
            25 July 2015 12: 23
            Quote: tanit
            Do you feel the sense? The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has no common borders.

            belay
            Are you sure? Although there are no borders, but
            I’m somehow watching Saudi Arabia from the balcony in Eilat. I would not say that
            There, in general, sitting on the balcony - Here is Saudi Arabia, Here is Jordan. here is Egypt.
            1. wax
              -1
              25 July 2015 20: 15
              sitting on the balcony - Here is Saudi, Here is Jordan. here is Egypt
              and spit in all directions, because beneath the balcony is its own darling nuclear, which can be dumped on Cairo (as Golda Meir hystered at the time), Riyadh, Amman ...
            2. wax
              0
              25 July 2015 20: 15
              sitting on the balcony - Here is Saudi, Here is Jordan. here is Egypt
              and spit in all directions, because beneath the balcony is its own darling nuclear, which can be dumped on Cairo (as Golda Meir hystered at the time), Riyadh, Amman ...
      2. +2
        25 July 2015 09: 41
        Quote: sanain
        CA performs a humble bribe giver.

        Can you imagine that the CA is a simple bribe-giver ... That which essentially regulates oil prices ... the US is now "rushing about", after all, in fact, they have betrayed Israel (Wait a minute, they are starting to work back), Iran openly supports Assad's Syria ... Oh, PRIMAKOVA hi He would have described the situevina. East however. hi
  3. +4
    25 July 2015 05: 55
    I am not a supporter of Kadyrov, but in this regard he is well done, when he gets tired of power in Chechnya, he can be appointed special envoy or ambassador to this country.
    1. -6
      25 July 2015 08: 28
      Quote: ovod84
      I am not a supporter of Kadyrov, but in this regard he is well done, when he gets tired of power in Chechnya, he can be appointed special envoy or ambassador to this country.

      C'mon, Kadyrov’s intellect is painted on his face, as are the show-offs * (it’s strange that he’s not in a tracksuit)
      Kadyrov is an ordinary bandyugan and he knows how to negotiate with the same bandiuk with the SA, they have one understanding of the world.
      Well that's all.
      1. +6
        25 July 2015 11: 30
        Quote: atalef
        C'mon, Kadyrov’s intellect is painted on his face, as are the show-offs * (it’s strange that he’s not in a tracksuit)
        Kadyrov is an ordinary bandyugan and he knows how to negotiate with the same bandiuk with the SA, they have one understanding of the world.
        Well that's all.

        And do not say, especially if you take Israel, which likewise flirts with the SA.
        1. -3
          25 July 2015 11: 48
          Quote: Phantom Revolution
          And do not say, especially if you take Israel, which likewise flirts with the SA.

          We do not flirt with them and do not receive money, we have common interests. it unites.
          1. +4
            25 July 2015 12: 54
            Quote: atalef
            We do not flirt with them and do not receive money, we have common interests. it unites.

            If you say
            Quote: atalef
            "Kadyrov is an ordinary bandyugan and he knows how to negotiate with the same bandits with the SA"
            then in Israel ordinary bandyukans who have common goals?)

            As for money, this is an investment and no more.)
            1. -1
              25 July 2015 12: 59
              Quote: Phantom Revolution
              then in Israel ordinary bandyukans who have common goals?)

              Why? Common interests may be with bandits.
              Let's take a digression into history, Captain Drake - have you heard that name? And the attitude of the English Queen
              Interests and interests again.
              Quote: Phantom Revolution
              As for money, this is an investment and no more.)

              Where ?
              Just don’t tell me a phrase - like to the economy
              Specifically possible? maybe money is invested in projects, not given to the Ministry of Finance hi
      2. +6
        25 July 2015 13: 40
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: ovod84
        I am not a supporter of Kadyrov, but in this regard he is well done, when he gets tired of power in Chechnya, he can be appointed special envoy or ambassador to this country.

        C'mon, Kadyrov’s intellect is painted on his face, as are the show-offs * (it’s strange that he’s not in a tracksuit)
        Kadyrov is an ordinary bandyugan and he knows how to negotiate with the same bandiuk with the SA, they have one understanding of the world.
        Well that's all.



        But for me, it’s so intelligence - it’s very painted on the faces of Kerry, your Netanyahu, and many Western politicians who are the TOP GANGS on the planet.
        So I take it that the United States and Israel act like gangsters.
        And the "dumb" Kadyrov, to the tune of no less "dumb" Putin, made his people the main patriots of Russia in a very short period of time.
        So - talk to you, do not talk ...
        1. -2
          25 July 2015 14: 20
          Quote: mik-51
          But for me, it’s so intelligence - it’s very painted on the faces of Kerry, your Netanyahu, and many Western politicians who are the TOP GANGS on the planet.

          Well, I don't like Kerry or Netanyahu. but still we will be objective _ unlike Kadyrov
          From the famous American Forbes family, received a privileged education. He got his secondary education in Switzerland, graduating from the famous Institut Montana Zugerberg private school. Atsame at yale He began to show interest in politics and public speaking, took part in supporting the election campaign of President Kennedy, and was awarded a personal meeting with the president and his family. After graduating from the university, he took part (1966-1970) in the Vietnam War, commanded a river boat. After the third wound he was discharged. He graduated from law school.

          Netanyahu
          Benjamin Netanyahu was born in the family of a professor of history and personal secretary Zeev Jabotinsky Bentsion Netanyahu (Mileikovsky), the son of immigrants from Lithuania, and Tsili Netanyahu (Segal). Binyamin is their second son. His older brother, Jonathan (Yoni) Netanyahu, Israel’s national hero, died in an operation to free Israeli hostages in Entebbe. Younger brother Dr. Ido Netanyahu - radiologist and writer. Benjamin’s grandfather was a Russian rabbi, a preacher of Zionism, Netan (Netanyahu) Mileykovsky.

          In the late 1950s and 1960s. his family alternately lived in Israel and in the USA, where Bentsion Netanyahu taught [3]. There, Benjamin graduated from high school, where [specify] his name was “Bibi.” [2]

          After graduating in 1967, Netanyahu returned to Israel to serve in the Israeli Defense Forces. He served in the elite sabotage and reconnaissance unit Sayeret Matkal. He participated in several military operations on the territory of enemy countries, including in the raid on Beirut airport, and in the battle of Karama. He was wounded twice, including during an operation to free a Saben airline plane hijacked by Palestinian terrorists on May 9, 1972.

          Having completed his service in 1972 with the rank of captain, he returned to the United States to pursue higher education. In 1975, Netanyahu received a bachelor's degree in architecture from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), in 1977 a master's degree in management from the MIT Sloan School of Management, and then studied political science at Harvard University and MIT

          Of course, both of them are far from Kadyrov.
          In 1992, Ramzan graduated from secondary school in his native village [4] [
          - it’s a pity, on this all his education ended crying
          Quote: mik-51
          So - talk to you, do not talk ...

          Well, where am I?
        2. +10
          25 July 2015 14: 49
          Quote: mik-51
          But for me, it’s so intelligence - it’s very painted on the faces of Kerry, your Netanyahu, and many Western politicians who are the TOP GANGS on the planet.

          Here you are absolutely right, for example, to recall the handsome faces of our reformers Chubais, Gaidar, Nemtsov, Abramovich, Khodorkovsky who plundered and destroyed our country with modest and defenseless smiles, in fact killing 10 million of its instructions and almost completely destroying industry, or today's leaders of Ukraine Valtsman, Groysman , Yatsyenyuk who, with a businesslike look, send Ukrainians to kill Russians while stuffing their pockets.
          Also, Kerry and Netanyahu smiling sweetly and making innocent faces lead terrorists and maniacs of all stripes supporting the war and killings on our planet
          Today's Israel in conjunction with the United States is a stronghold of terrorism on our planet.
          Therefore, we must support real fighters against this evil Iran, Syria, Hezbollah and not those who are verbally against the killers but actually hide a knife behind their backs to hit in the back when you turn your back on such as the regimes of the USA and Israel.
      3. 0
        25 July 2015 20: 49
        Quote: atalef
        C'mon, Kadyrov’s intellect is painted on his face, like show-offs * (it’s strange that he’s not in a tracksuit) Kadyrov is an ordinary bandyugan and he knows how to negotiate with the same bandits with SA, they have one understanding of the world.

        If you do not like this, then we are on the true and right path. Strong Russia is your enemy, it is much more convenient to make fun of her, making fun of us - quilted jackets. We have never had and never will have friends. Talk about the lack of investment? Yes, everyone is looking with greedy eyes at Russia, new sales markets and natural resources, which, unfortunately, we are not yet able to use with maximum benefit. Probably Channel 1 is filming "soap operas" about peasants who have been affected by sanctions in Europe. The Americans don't care about these problems, they fought the last war on their territory between the "South" and "North", and they are far from the problems of evacuating the population. It is convenient for them to sow war on neighboring "plantation countries" while simultaneously solving their economic problems. And what can I tell you, you yourself go to the store all your life with a gun at the ready. For Americans, you are the "police station" in the Arab world. The artificially lowered oil price will go sideways for everyone, only we will survive, and you should think about what kind of fire starts burning near you. Undoubtedly, the USA is beneficial for you in the role of a firefighter, but by no means Russia. We are accustomed to pushing our heads against other countries, while remaining profitably third countries. And it is not yet known where the wave of emigration will go, when they clash with weapons near your borders. And we are still worried about ours. And you, whoever has Russian citizenship, do not lose it, just in case. And buy quilted jackets, it's cold here. Time will tell - you will be colleagues. In the East, it’s getting hotter, you’re not looking at the news about Russia, but about the advancement of ISIS, it’s closer to your body at the moment, say, more relevant.
    2. 0
      25 July 2015 11: 51
      I am not a supporter of Kadyrov, but in this regard he is well done, when he gets tired of power in Chechnya, he can be appointed special envoy or ambassador to this country.


      I think that his ambitions are slightly higher than being an errand boy ...
    3. +1
      25 July 2015 23: 22
      Tired of power? Well made fun
  4. +5
    25 July 2015 06: 35
    Saudi Minister of Defense praised Chechnya’s experience in the fight against terrorism.

    By the way Chechnya has become today, there is something to evaluate. But there are small doubts about the exchange of experience. Having gained experience, the Saudis will easily orient those who are sponsored on certain details of a possible fight against them. Those. as a result, radical Islamists will acquire experience, forms and methods of struggle and will take this into account in their future activities. And Kadyrov's trip to the SA should not be condemned. Above, they correctly wrote that he acts as a representative of the Russian Federation and naturally received the go-ahead for this trip.
  5. +1
    25 July 2015 06: 41
    Kadyrov decided to smell out that the plans of the Saudis for the near future .. I just think the Saudis will not reveal their cards .. because they are used, I think the USA is in the dark ..
  6. +10
    25 July 2015 07: 08
    I think Putin did the right thing, that he sent Kadyrov to the Saudis.
    Especially after Ramzan's loud statement "That the Chechen special forces, by order of the commander-in-chief, are ready to move anywhere in the world to protect the interests of Russia!" Maybe they will put less pressure on Syria .. (dreams, of course), but you need to look for ways and it is face to face ..
    1. +7
      25 July 2015 08: 03
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Chechen special forces on the orders of the commander in chief

      Remembering our history, the Russian emperors always had the Cossacks and other free peoples on their borders. Those peoples performed the role of a buffer and shock force from intrusions from outside.
      Today, nothing has changed, only new names have appeared, the emperor - the commander in chief, Cossacks and horsemen - special forces. smile
  7. +4
    25 July 2015 07: 41
    Well done Ramzan, did the right thing. 10 billion for CA - a trifle. But the fact that the Kaaba was discovered for his mother is not appreciated in money.
  8. -6
    25 July 2015 08: 12
    I have such a hypothetical question. And if tomorrow Kadyrov (using his authority) declares a referendum in Chechnya and declares independence (based on the results, of course) and joins Saudi Arabia, what will you do? )))
    1. BAT
      +6
      25 July 2015 08: 32
      And I have a counter-hypothetical question. And if tomorrow Israel enters into an agreement with Saudi Arabia and starts a war against Iran? Or Saudi Arabia will agree with Iran, Hezbollah, Iraq, Kuwait, Syria, Qatar, Yemen and the rest of the Islamic world and unleash holy jihad against the Jews of Israel, and the United States simply will not want to harness for Israel. What will you do? Better deal with this hypothetics, but don't worry about us and Kadyrov. We’ll figure it out without you. By the way, many have the impression that so far VV Putin at the helm of Russia Ramzan Kadyrov for Russia will tear anyone whom Putin points to.
      1. -3
        25 July 2015 08: 39
        Have you ever read a question or just reacted to a flag ???? Judging by the answer - for you my flag is like a red rag for a bull.
      2. -11
        25 July 2015 09: 34
        Quote: sichevik
        And I have a counter-hypothetical question. And if tomorrow Israel enters into an agreement with Saudi Arabia and starts a war against Iran?

        It will remain hypothetical, Israel will not start a war with Iran (especially in alliance with the SA)
        Quote: sichevik
        Or Saudi Arabia will agree with Iran, Hezbollah, Iraq, Kuwait, Syria, Qatar, Yemen and the rest of the Islamic world and unleash holy jihad against the Jews of Israel

        The same nonsense, especially in part of Syria (not to whom), Hezbollah (Shiites), Kuwait and Qatar (they have such a life, no army, and generally we’re fighting?), Iraq? Is there such a state ?,
        )
        Quote: sichevik
        and the United States simply does not want to harness because of Israel. What will you do?

        Stop writing nonsense like your shopping mall. I will ask you a more realistic question. if a meteorite (3 times more than the Tunguska) falls on Russia tomorrow and directly to Moscow - What will you do?
        Quote: sichevik
        ? Do this hypothesis better

        Visiting a fairy tale.

        Quote: sichevik
        but don’t worry about us and Kadyrov.

        I’m definitely not worried about you and Kadyrov.
        Quote: sichevik
        many have the impression that so far V.V. Putin at the helm of Russia Ramzan Kadyrov for Russia will tear anyone whom Putin points to.

        That's it, and if Putin leaves tomorrow (God forbid, he gets sick), and Putin will not last forever (and Kadyrov will be younger) - who will he tear?
        You are a little substitute for concepts - personal devotion (as in a gang) and patriotism.
        1. +12
          25 July 2015 09: 50
          And your fellow Wanderer doesn’t write nonsense. You suddenly pounce on those who have a different opinion. You consider yourself the ultimate truth, especially in the Middle East. It’s time to restrain pride and touch our president less. We do not want your president and prime minister at every opportunity.
          1. -4
            25 July 2015 10: 03
            Quote: rotmistr60
            And your fellow Wanderer doesn’t write nonsense.

            I don’t know what faith a wanderer is, maybe he is a Christian like you or an atheist like me?
            Quote: rotmistr60
            You will suddenly attack those who have a different opinion.

            Oh oh
            Quote: rotmistr60
            . You consider yourself the ultimate truth, especially in the Middle East

            Well, we have more knowledge, of course, I would understand if you owned Arabic, English or, at worst, Hebrew - then the argument would probably be more interesting, but unlike you, I speak Russian, I lived in the USSR / Russia, I visit the country regularly, I have friends in Russia regularly coming to me - therefore, at least when comparing various sources, I have a reasonable opinion, what can you offer in contrast to the situation in the BV?
            You don’t know the language
            in the country - were not
            No friends
            Your whole opinion is based on publications in the press (Russian) - the objectivity of which in many matters (on BV) is more than doubtful
            Therefore, our opinion, if not the ultimate truth, is at least more justified than yours

            Quote: rotmistr60
            It’s time to temper pride and touch our president less

            God is with you, we do not touch him, but you will not forbid to discuss his actions
            Quote: rotmistr60
            . We do not want your president and prime minister at every opportunity.

            You can join us and hait.
            Since walking along Netanyahu I have no problem, and the president (ours, if you know) has such declarative functions that he can manage the maximum = this is the routine of feeding the cats in his residence.
            1. +6
              25 July 2015 10: 21
              Well, we have more knowledge, of course, I would understand if you owned Arabic, English or, at worst, Hebrew - then the argument would probably be more interesting, but unlike you, I speak Russian, I lived in the USSR / Russia

              And is that not pride?
              You don’t know the language
              in the country - were not
              No friends

              Did MOSAD present this information to you? Or you out of habit are all to the heap. According to the principle - where are you poor "chosen ones" before us? You will not die of modesty.
              1. -3
                25 July 2015 10: 26
                Quote: rotmistr60
                And is that not pride?

                No, it’s a statement of fact, I didn’t say that I’m smarter than you or more educated, I said that I’m many times more able to get information and based on that I can create my personal opinion - as you understand it closer to the true situation

                Quote: rotmistr60
                Has MOSAD presented this information to you?

                No, please refute - I’m sorry, even 10 times

                Quote: rotmistr60
                Or you out of habit are all to the heap. According to the principle - where are you poor to ns "chosen"

                Well, then you’ll spread rot yourself so, you are Russian - God is with you (where do we already have it) - well, let’s get back to our sheep.
                If you tell me what other resource you use (except for the Russian media) - we will have something to compare hi
                1. +8
                  25 July 2015 10: 34
                  And you are not just a Jew. You terry Russophobe. Argue with you - waste your nerves. And God is really with us. And you sent him to the Cross with the wrong hands.
                  1. -3
                    25 July 2015 10: 47
                    Quote: rotmistr60
                    And you are not just a Jew.

                    I'm just a Jew
                    Quote: rotmistr60
                    You terry Russophobe

                    Of course my wife is from Ukraine (but my mother-in-law is Russian)
                    Quote: rotmistr60
                    Argue with you - spend your nerves

                    It’s hard to prove, because I accept the arguments, you won’t forget about propaganda
                    Quote: rotmistr60
                    And God is really with us.

                    Who would doubt that
                    Quote: rotmistr60
                    And you sent him to the Cross with the wrong hands.

                    Your people will meet hi
                2. 0
                  27 July 2015 10: 07
                  No, please refute - I’m sorry, even 10 times

                  First, unfoundedly blame, and then offer to refute? But would you go away with this approach?
        2. +3
          25 July 2015 09: 53
          Quote: atalef
          personal devotion (like in a gang)

          In my opinion, there is just a choice - on the one hand, poison, explosion or something like that, on the other, financial flows, here is the same method as in the 19th century, when Shamil was bought, even a title of nobility was given, so "love "here for money, or money for" love "
          1. -1
            25 July 2015 10: 08
            Quote: rosarioagro
            In my opinion, there is just a choice - on the one hand, poison, explosion or something like that, on the other, financial flows, here is the same method as in the 19th century, when Shamil was bought, even a title of nobility was given, so "love "here for money, or money for" love "

            Methods do not change.
            Can you imagine that Kadyrov began to receive financing like any other region of Russia and Allah suddenly closed the valve?
            How much devotion is enough?
            1. +1
              25 July 2015 11: 51
              Quote: atalef
              How much devotion is enough?

              And if that is not enough, the country's leadership can remove him from office even today!
        3. BAT
          +4
          25 July 2015 09: 59
          Dear Alexander. All these delusional questions were not asked to you. And to the delirium, the annexation of Chechnya to Saudi Arabia, I tried to answer no less delirium. To be honest, I really appreciate your opinion (do not consider this flattery) for your balance, objectivity and subtle humor. And I always read your comments carefully. Although not always agree with them. I didn’t think that you would take my comment so seriously, in which there was more sarcasm than my opinion. Believe me, I'm not so stupid as to believe in such scenarios. It is unfortunate that you did not understand my humor. Regards, Vlad.
          1. -3
            25 July 2015 10: 15
            Quote: sichevik
            Dear Alexander. All these delusional questions were not asked to you. And to the delirium, the annexation of Chechnya to Saudi Arabia, I tried to answer no less delirium.

            sorry, did not catch up hi
            Quote: sichevik
            To be honest, I really appreciate your opinion (do not consider this flattery) for your balance, objectivity and subtle humor.

            hi , well, we can also fuck who we can fuck wassat
            Quote: sichevik
            I didn’t think that you would take my comment so seriously, in which there was more sarcasm than my opinion

            you can understand (me) Saturday, morning, yesterday with a brother-in-law until 12 at night dumplings cracked, lard, vodka, bazaars for life (brother-in-law from the Crimea, we with Setra from St. Petersburg. my wife is from Kiev) soldier bully --- in the morning half of the neurons have not yet joined the work

            Quote: sichevik
            Believe me, I'm not so stupid as to believe in such scenarios. It is unfortunate that you did not understand my humor. Regards, Vla

            sorry again hi
            Sincerely, Alexander
            1. BAT
              +2
              25 July 2015 10: 26
              Dumplings, lard, vodka is, of course, the topic !!! I myself come from Zaporozhye, so I know a lot about fat and vodka. It's a shame that now I can not go to Zaporozhye. I was there in 2013. Even then I realized that something bad was brewing. Then he wanted to go, but in Kharkov they turned back ...
              1. -2
                25 July 2015 10: 29
                Quote: sichevik
                Dumplings, lard, vodka is, of course, the topic !!! I myself come from Zaporozhye, so I know a lot about fat and vodka. It's a shame that now I can not go to Zaporozhye. I was there in 2013. Even then I realized that something bad was brewing. Then he wanted to go, but in Kharkov they turned back ...

                Yes, the easiest thing is to sit in the kitchen in Haifa, drink vodka with lard, and talk about Ukraine bully
                Although curfew is certainly not the main topic. hi
                1. 0
                  25 July 2015 12: 13
                  Well, of course, Ukraine is no longer the main topic, because the Western elites and their proteges failed to achieve their goals with the help of events in Ukraine!
        4. +7
          25 July 2015 10: 07
          Quote: atalef
          You are a little substitute for concepts - personal devotion (as in a gang) and patriotism.

          Are you really not? Personal loyalty to the state of Israel (like in a gang - your words, no?) And patriotism (in your case, like in a gang based on your personal loyalty) hi
          1. -3
            25 July 2015 10: 20
            Quote: tanit
            Are you not? Personal loyalty to the state of Israel (like in a gang - your words, no?) And patriotism (in your case, like a gang based on your personal loyalty)

            In our country, the premieres change every 2-3 years, while this does not affect the level of patriotism, the draft in the Army, the economy or the succession of suicides of officials (after the resignation of the prime minister, or losing the election) - this is not observed.
            For example, I don’t like Netanyahu and I did not vote for him and I think that he is a bad prime
            I (like most Israelis) are patriots of the state, not regular politicians and incoming prime ministers.
            1. +1
              25 July 2015 10: 43
              Well, if everything is as you described it (I see no reason to doubt your words). So "gang" - so it turns out? hi In such a structure as you described, there is nothing from banditry ?! hi
              1. -2
                25 July 2015 10: 49
                Quote: tanit
                In such a structure, which you described, is there nothing from banditry?

                In the one where they say that
                -It will break for the country, and not for a single person hi
                1. +1
                  25 July 2015 11: 03
                  And where do they say they won't break for their country? And, again, where do they say that they will tear for a certain personality? Can you give examples of a massive break "for personality"? hi
                  1. 0
                    25 July 2015 11: 12
                    Quote: tanit
                    And where do they say they won't break for their country? And, again, where do they say that they will tear for a certain personality? Can you give examples of a massive break "for personality"? hi

                    Do not meddle in demagoguery
                    I can * break * up for my family, friend and country - and that's fine, but not for a politician or president. especially when it says a government official.
                  2. +2
                    25 July 2015 11: 15
                    If you have noticed, and you have noticed, then here, for a "certain personality", very few people are going to vomit anything. But for the country - here is just the opposite. But - in the case here - "gang". In your case - patriotism? Or is it still a "gang" in Israel? hi
                    1. 0
                      25 July 2015 11: 41
                      Quote: tanit
                      If you have noticed, and you have noticed, then here, for a "certain personality", few people are going to vomit anything.

                      Everyone has their own opinion, there are many. who is ready to tear the anus to himself and others - and this is normal - everyone thinks in his own way.
                      Someone is ready to vomit and happy, someone is not
                      Quote: tanit
                      But for the country - it’s just the opposite.

                      Many replace the concepts of personality and country (although the role of the personality should not be completely eliminated)
                      Quote: tanit
                      ... But - in the case here - "gang". In your case - patriotism?

                      We have for Netanyahu (even his most staunch adherents. They won’t tear anything), as I am for the candidate I support (the same pretzel is still the same) but Bibi had to be removed, snickering in one place
                      Quote: tanit
                      Or is it still a "gang" in Israel?

                      Gang in what?
    2. -4
      25 July 2015 08: 37
      Curse you for a tongue without bones.
      1. -1
        25 July 2015 10: 05
        Quote: noWAR
        Curse you for a tongue without bones.

        Come on the contrary, you sing praises for tongue-tied?
        1. +2
          25 July 2015 11: 05
          Well, emotions. And in your state some citizens have it. Why, then, from the contrary so immediately? hi
          1. -2
            25 July 2015 11: 13
            Quote: tanit
            Well, emotions.

            Without emotion - direct analysis, mathematical I would say
            1. +2
              25 July 2015 11: 21
              That is, if the majority of the population of Israel supports their unloved, yet chosen by themselves government is democracy.
              If in Russia they support Putin, then what is this?
              Some kind of math ... Strange. Moving numbers, probably?
              1. -3
                25 July 2015 11: 28
                Quote: tanit
                That is, if the majority of the population of Israel supports their unloved, yet chosen by themselves government is democracy.

                Why? The majority chose this government, I am in the minority - it (the majority) so far supports it, the minority - no, and this will last until the next election, which does not guarantee that I will not be in the minority again - and yes, democracy
                Quote: tanit
                If in Russia they support Putin, then what is this?

                Democracy, I’m far from thinking that in Russia the results were rigged
                And no one expected anything else if there were absolutely manual media, the absence of opposition and some kind of minimally realistic alternative.
                Quote: tanit
                Some kind of math ... Strange. Moving numbers, probably?

                Each nation deserves its government (including ours) hi
                1. 0
                  25 July 2015 11: 38
                  Quote: atalef
                  And no one expected anything else if there were absolutely manual media, the absence of opposition and some kind of minimally realistic alternative.

                  And what was that about? I'll guess - about elections "in general and everywhere" hi
                  To paraphrase you - Every nation is worthy of life. hi
                  And yours and mine .. And about .. .. about 2000 - the rest of the peoples are also worthy of living. hi
                  1. 0
                    25 July 2015 11: 46
                    Quote: tanit
                    And what was that about? I'll guess - about elections "in general and everywhere"

                    No sorry no everywhere
                    Opposition (strong) must be, it’s good, this alternative does not allow the government to sit around and lose touch with voters
                    Quote: tanit
                    To paraphrase you - Every nation is worthy of life.

                    Well, prehistoric people, and even earlier - lived without governments and were worthy of her 9 life) no less than modern
                    They themselves have chosen - eat yourself (this also applies to us)
                    Quote: tanit
                    And yours and mine .. And about .. about 2000 - the rest of the peoples are also worthy of living

                    Why 2000? There are about 200 countries in the world, and even less democracies hi
                    1. -1
                      25 July 2015 11: 53
                      I'm not talking about the country. I am about peoples. wink
                      1. 0
                        25 July 2015 12: 03
                        Opposition (strong) must be, it’s good, this alternative does not allow the government to sit around and lose touch with voters
                        Yes. Well, since on you ... "No, I'm sorry not everywhere" ... Will you be happy if your oppositionists (those who are about Israel in the biblical borders) win? No? No, I'm sure. An analogue is our swamp creatures. That is, our creatures and your creatures are different, or what? Hardly. hi
                      2. +3
                        25 July 2015 12: 20
                        Quote: tanit
                        Yes. Well, since you ...

                        We have no appeal to you (in Hebrew) I'm used to sorry, this (you) in no way detracts from my respect for you hi

                        Quote: tanit
                        So you will be glad if your opposition (those who are about Israel within the biblical borders) win?

                        Well, let's say that in Israel there is no party calling for the restoration of Israel within the biblical borders.
                        Further, if it arises and gains a majority and wins the election, that means the people want it. Will I be glad?
                        I can’t answer a thing so hypothetical (in modern realities) that I would answer
                        mk in order for such a party to emerge and win, there must be a completely different political and international situation, and it’s to fool the people (in our media it is very difficult, because there are a lot of opinions and our news is a set of different opinions and opinions of opponents)
                        Quote: tanit
                        What no, sure

                        What not sure? If they win 7 Yes, I’m not happy now that Netanyahu was chosen, and so what? Will wait
                        Quote: tanit
                        The analogue is our swamp creatures. That is, the creatures we have and the creatures you have are different, or what?

                        Well, you have it, critics who have different opinions from you. In my department
                        From 4 people
                        2nd for Netanyahu.
                        1 (s) against.
                        and one is absolutely left
                        this in no way prevents us from working calmly and making friends, and the left (he is the youngest with us) - continue to go to reserve camps and even participate in the last operation in Gaza
                        Political views (this is not a favorite football team) - can change under the influence of circumstances. hi
                      3. -1
                        25 July 2015 12: 48
                        And your Hasidim are not a party? Not for Israel within its historical borders? That is, if the others do not consider these "marsh" ones as people, then should they count those of ours as a political force? wink
                      4. 0
                        25 July 2015 12: 55
                        Quote: tanit
                        And your Hasidim is not a party?

                        Well, there are lots of ultra-religious, all together somewhere around 12 mendates. So what ?

                        Quote: tanit
                        Not for Israel within historical boundaries?

                        They are for the grandmother from the budget, the rest of them on the drum
                        I say again, there is no such party in Israel whose program says the return of Israel to the biblical borders - there are separate gorlopans - there is no party.
                        And who will fight for it? No fools
                        Quote: tanit
                        That is, if the rest do not consider these "swamp" people as people

                        Why? We have ultra-left - Merets - 5 mandates (lazy for giving everything to everyone). They have the right to existence, representation in the Knesset and sitting in the opposition.
                        Of course they are people and among them there are quite a few smart people. which have passed quite a few good laws in the Knesset, especially regarding the rights of workers
                        Quote: tanit
                        then the same ours for political power to count?

                        I did not understand the question hi
                      5. +1
                        25 July 2015 13: 16
                        So, I want to clarify. That is, the creatures that do not serve in the army of their state, the howling state - the Israelis care much less than "Putin"? Am I alone funny? laughing
                      6. -2
                        25 July 2015 13: 26
                        Quote: tanit
                        So, I want to clarify. That is, the creatures that do not serve in the army of their state, the howling state - the Israelis care much less than "Putin"? I'm alone funny

                        Generally . Israelis to Putin all the same. by the way, the bulk of the Israelis sitting here (in IN)
                        I generally have a fair attitude to Putin, recognizing some of his merits and at the same time knowing full well that he did more negative than positive. But if he suits the Russians, then it suits them
                        I have a very negative attitude towards our ultra-Orthodox people, and for all that they are * ours * you are unlikely to see that one of the Israelis is protecting them.
                        They are reality, we can’t send them to the moon - it means the only thing that can be done within the framework of the accepted Knesset is to make them at least work.
                        But maybe they have their own party and mandates and they are in a coalition (and they are also citizens of the country) - they lobby their interests - and this is the same (funny as it may seem) democracy.
                        Unfortunately and fortunately (depending on the situation), we don’t have such Putin, which he said, and then the whole parliament stood at attention and squealed - DOBBY hi
                      7. -2
                        25 July 2015 12: 24
                        Quote: tanit
                        I'm not talking about the country. I am about peoples.

                        And then what have the people to do with it?
                      8. +2
                        25 July 2015 12: 56
                        Yes so ... There were = Khazars lived. Do not live. Once upon a time there were Uyghurs. They live. And initially - everything is monolingual. Yes, and there were still Gagauzians. Not written in the Turkic-speaking Muslim world.
                        And the Khazars are almost sorry.
                      9. +1
                        25 July 2015 13: 15
                        Quote: tanit
                        Yes so ... There were = Khazars lived. Do not live. Once upon a time there were Uyghurs. They live. And initially - everything is monolingual. Yes, and there were still Gagauzians. Not written in the Turkic-speaking Muslim world.
                        And the Khazars are almost sorry.

                        Khazar then?
                        And what significance does it have now.
                        Today we have the 9th ABA (this is according to the Hebrew calendar), believing Jews mourn the destruction of the 1st and 2nd Temple (this one happened oddly on the same day) with a difference of 700 years
                        It is a pity of course, but what does it matter in modern realities?
                      10. -2
                        25 July 2015 17: 44
                        Well, here you are. And then what kind of honecker
                        I generally have a fair attitude to Putin, recognizing some of his merits and at the same time knowing full well that he did more negative than positive. But if he suits the Russians, then it suits them
                        hi ? Like the events of 700 years ago - no relation to now, is it? hi
    3. +1
      25 July 2015 19: 10
      Change.
      Quote: wanderer
      I have such a hypothetical question. And if tomorrow Kadyrov (using his authority) declares a referendum in Chechnya and declares independence (based on the results, of course) and joins Saudi Arabia, what will you do? )))


      Change. What is the problem? With the Czech Republic, no one will ever be sad again.
    4. 0
      25 July 2015 22: 44
      This is the Saudis joining us, after the referendum. Do not worry about us, think about yourself. ISIS DOESN'T Sleep.
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  9. -6
    25 July 2015 08: 21
    Kadyr went to see the main enemy of the entire Chechen people.
  10. BAT
    +1
    25 July 2015 08: 58
    Quote: wanderer
    Have you ever read a question or just reacted to a flag ???? Judging by the answer - for you my flag is like a red rag for a bull.

    I read the question very carefully, even found spelling errors in it. I also tried to answer a hypothetical question with a hypothetical question. But this is not the point. I don’t give a damn about what your flag is. Just here on the forum there are several sons of Israel, very concerned about the fate of Russia (in a bad sense). But there are people with Israeli flags here who are deeply respected by me for their objectivity, impartiality and reasonableness in their comments. And my advice to you-- change the flag.
    1. -5
      25 July 2015 10: 25
      Regarding "concern about the fate of Russia" - of course, I am concerned just like any normal person, since I would like the country to be just one-half of the land. about the flag, don't advise me what to do, and I won't have to tell you where to go. Regarding the referendum, I said hepothetically, and there are Sunnis and there it was enough for you to annex Crimea, and you don't need to tell me that he was Russian, he was Turkish too.
      1. BAT
        +2
        25 July 2015 11: 52
        Quote: wanderer
        Regarding "concern about the fate of Russia" - of course, I am concerned just like any normal person, since I would like the country to be just one-half of the land. about the flag, don't advise me what to do, and I won't have to tell you where to go. Regarding the referendum, I said hepothetically, and there are Sunnis and there it was enough for you to annex Crimea, and you don't need to tell me that he was Russian, he was Turkish too.

        And where does the Crimea? In the distant 1783, the Crimean Khan Shahin Girey voluntarily signed the Manifesto on the annexation of the Crimea and the Taman Peninsula to the Russian Empire. And in 1791, Turkey officially recognized this agreement and accordingly agreed with the annexation of Crimea and. Taman to the Russian Empire. And why don't you recall events much later and relevant? Why didn’t you remember 1981 - annexation. Israel Golan Heights? Interestingly, the UN Security Council resolution No. 497 of December 17, 1981 on the invalidation of the annexation by Israel. Golan Heights still valid? Just already tired. A little bit that everyone immediately begins to remember the Crimea. Why does no one remember Kosovo? Why no one remembers the bombing of Serbia? Why is everyone forgetting about Granada? For some reason, many of you are concerned about the adequacy of Russia. How many military bases do Russia have around the world? In Europe, Asia, on the American continents? All, yelling about Russian aggression. And someone can clearly and intelligibly answer-- WHO IS THREATENED TO RUSSIA? To whom ??????? Or did Russia stumble on its bases and troops around the United States? Why do not you care about the adequacy of the United States, organizing color revolutions everywhere and poking their nose into the internal affairs of other countries? Do not touch us and we will not touch anyone ...
        1. -8
          25 July 2015 11: 58
          Well, if you remember the Golan Heights so what did you forget to mention the Kaliningrad region, Karelia and the Kuril Islands for one. As for the agreement - Crimea, it seems, also didn’t move to Ukraine itself ?! What Serbia or Kosovo annexed some state-in?
          1. BAT
            +6
            25 July 2015 12: 17
            Then you also need to remember about Alsace and Lorraine. And also remember the free city of Danzig, which became Polish Gdansk in 1945 ... Yes, and the Kaliningrad Soviet Union annexed not independently, but with the consent of the anti-Hitler coalition. That is, the United States, Britain, France have given their consent.
          2. 0
            25 July 2015 12: 26
            No. Not forgotten Simply ... How would you answer ... And, there is an option - "in the bastard" Normal people in exactly this - you answer. Why am I answering? So it is said that normal morons will not answer. With me the question is resolved - I am insane. wassat
            1. -10
              25 July 2015 13: 37
              You most importantly don’t mess up the computer with snot, otherwise your parents will have to wash it later.
              1. +4
                25 July 2015 14: 37
                Quote: wanderer
                You most importantly do not mess up the snot computer

                Well, that's why the Zionists are all the same ..... and the boy?
                1. +5
                  25 July 2015 14: 59
                  Quote: sergey72

                  Quote: wanderer
                  You most importantly do not mess up the snot computer

                  Well, that's why the Zionists are all the same ..... and the boy?

                  All those who left in fact with fierce hatred hate Russia and wish it only evil. Let's not forget who plundered and destroyed it in the 90s, and now they want us to remain in the same state as beggars, hungry and on the verge of collapse. And each success or strengthening of our Motherland causes another surge of fierce anger in them.
                  And in fact, we should be glad that such "people" have left our country.
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              3. BAT
                +3
                25 July 2015 15: 55
                Quote: wanderer
                You most importantly don’t mess up the computer with snot, otherwise your parents will have to wash it later.

                But do not be rude. If you want to abuse, then you are not at the address. You need to censor. Here there is rudeness and swearing is welcome. This is their level. You won’t find anything interesting there, since the intellectual level of the visitors there is lower than the baseboard, but you can be rude with impunity there.
                1. -3
                  25 July 2015 19: 03
                  I answered with rudeness to the rudeness of this jerk (taint) you already excuse us, Zionists, it is not customary to substitute a second cheek
  11. +3
    25 July 2015 09: 22
    At the same time, "Barack Obama was warmly welcomed to Kenya late Friday night. This is Obama's first visit to his late father's homeland since 2006 as a senator." Obama warmly hugged his own palm tree, as usual climbed up on it and ate bananas, hid a couple of them in cheek pouches! On the same day I rushed back to Fashington so that, God forbid, some monkey would not take the presidency!
  12. +1
    25 July 2015 10: 42
    “So far, Saudi investors have been wary of us, but the personal communication of the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, Muhammad bin Salman, with President Vladimir Putin at the St. Petersburg Forum has affected them.”

    The Saudis have finally begun to understand the value of the American "partnership" (yours is mine and mine is mine too). And, of course, the notorious Arab trick. "The East is a delicate matter, Petruha." bully
    1. -2
      25 July 2015 10: 50
      Quote: Lelek
      Saudis have finally begun to understand the cost of the American "partnership"

      stop . Saud always bought everyone (Amerov is the same)
      1. +2
        25 July 2015 18: 19
        Quote: atalef
        Saud always bought everyone


        So yes not so. Whoever stands at the door with an aircraft carrier tickles the girl. In addition, the "pryntsy" buy everything in the states (from socks to oil production equipment and aircraft) - such is the parity. bully
    2. +2
      25 July 2015 10: 58
      But what has the Saudis to do with it? "For the brother said to his brother, this is mine and that is mine" (guess where the quote comes from?)
      I will prompt. A word about Igor's regiment.
      1. 0
        25 July 2015 11: 10
        Quote: tanit
        But what has the Saudis to do with it? "For the brother said to his brother, this is mine and that is mine" (guess where the quote comes from?)

        Who pays the money, he is dancing the young lady, or have you seen the opposite somewhere?
        Quote: tanit
        I will prompt. A word about Igor's regiment.

        Yes, at least - The Legend of the glorious city of Kitezh hi
        1. 0
          25 July 2015 11: 27
          But in the legend about the city of Kitezh - phrases about "brother told brother" - no hi
          But about the Saudis, I see no reason to argue. You're right.
  13. 0
    25 July 2015 11: 50
    Quote: Canep
    Kadyrov completely rolled off the coils, went to the CA, the main sponsor of terrorism. Did he decide to pursue an independent foreign policy?

    No, he most likely took his "good word" there. Together with greetings from the GDP.
  14. +1
    25 July 2015 15: 22
    Many of us are NOT Muslims. Many do not have a specific eastern mentality. Therefore, it is difficult for us to judge the results of Kadyrov’s trip to the SA. However, it can be stated that even such Saudi ties with the Russian Federation are a bother for s ... Let's not forget that there is an information war going on and such contacts fit well with our doctrine of another world order. And what consequences of the visit will be - we'll see. It's too early to speak. But then, they discovered the Kaaba for the Chechens - our Chechens! - says something already ....
    1. +1
      25 July 2015 15: 40
      Well, even the Jews from Israel are in full contact with them and nothing laughing
      Saudi students instructed at the Israeli embassy in Washington
      Of particular concern in the letter of August 14, 2008, the fact that Saudi students, as well as a number of students from other Gulf countries, visited the Israeli embassy in Washington as part of a program of young leaders.
      http://cursorinfo.co.il/news/novosti1/2015/06/20/saudovskie-studenti-hodili-na-i
      nstruktazh-v-izrailskoe-posolstvo-v-vashingtone- /
      Saudi Arabia and Israel under the leadership of the United States are one of the most important centers for the spread and financing of terrorism in the world.
  15. +2
    25 July 2015 16: 06
    From Tajikistan with a population of 7-8 million people (there is no exact data, due to the lack of a census) 400 people are fighting in the ranks of the Islamic state
    From Kyrgyzstan with a population of 5-6 million people (there is no exact data, due to the lack of a census) 330 people are fighting in the ranks of the Islamic state
    From the North Caucasus Federal District with a population of 6 people (excluding the Russian Stavropol Territory), 543 people are fighting. But according to the deputy chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation more than 722 and even more than 1700! More than 2000 people from Dagestan alone. Commonwealth Channel, Together, June 5000, 500 (www.mir28.tv). This is the clearest confirmation of the colossal level of Islamization of the North Caucasus. The battle is still AHEAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  16. 0
    25 July 2015 16: 07
    Hero of Russia since ............... 2003. ??
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  18. -4
    25 July 2015 17: 34
    Terrorist, I went to the sponsor of terrorism to share my experience on how to fight terrorism, didn’t I miss anything?
  19. +1
    25 July 2015 18: 28
    Sharply, I come up from news from there, 81 motorized rifle, and now my friends, [media = http: // https: //youtu.be/C8RlCloqfpU] ny yes.
    1. 0
      25 July 2015 18: 32
      such things, brother, LOVE
  20. +2
    25 July 2015 19: 27
    About Kadyrov, who openly admitted on TV camera that he "fought against the federals" of the Russian Federation, on the side of the Chechen militants, there is no need to comment on anything ... Everyone knows everything ... And about how Chechen Muslims (chichi) cut their heads Russian soldiers, no worse than IS, again, not without the help of the United States and Berezovsky's TsN, everyone knows everything. The Supreme Court is inevitable ... Even if Putin is satisfied with everything.
  21. 0
    25 July 2015 19: 46
    $ 10 billion will be invested in 4-5 years, he hopes.
    Like this: in the richest country, populated, for the most part, by wonderful and hardworking people, "THEY" continue to dream of handouts from foreign investors! am
    To the soap of such "economists"! And the government that supports them - there too!
  22. +1
    25 July 2015 19: 53
    Quote: Canep
    the main sponsor of terrorism.

    It’s true, and the Saudis also fell in oil prices in the late 80s. I don’t remember anything good about SA. And let them put their 10 billion where they know themselves. They just want to get into the country (where millions of Muslims live.) 151 BILLION $ -that was withdrawn from Russia last year for the government. To halve the outflow by half, and there will be funds for investment. hi
  23. +1
    25 July 2015 19: 55
    Kadyrov in good relations with Putin! Duck maybe it was Putin who sent him for reconnaissance, they have one religion, it’s kind of like, it’s easier to agree on anything !!!
  24. 0
    25 July 2015 22: 23
    According to the head of Chechnya, quoted by the agency, The Minister of Defense of Saudi Arabia announced his decision to send delegations to the Chechen Republic to exchange experience. In September, the kingdom’s foreign minister will fly into the region. In addition, a delegation led by the Saudi minister of religion is expected to arrive in Chechnya. This delegation intends to study the local experience in the fight against terrorism and extremism

    The United States has already exchanged experience with the Ukrainian Air Force units, which were later successfully used against them on the Maidan.
  25. 0
    25 July 2015 23: 04
    All that is good for us, the rest is immediately bad. So the right way we go comrades laughing If the Saudis gave money to Israel, and their President would be in Kadyrov's place, there would be a thousand positive historical reasons for the relationship between these two "friendly" peoples. Alas ... While colleagues from the Promised Land, you have to drop snot on the keys.
  26. +1
    26 July 2015 19: 45
    yeah, what is Kadyrov wearing?
    I see it’s really bad with the negotiators in the east!

    Hero of Russia Ramzan Kadyrov once blamed another Hero of Russia,
    Sulima Yamadayev, in involvement in the murder of his father, Hero of Russia
    Akhmad Kadyrov. Hero of Russia Sulim Yamadayev killed in Dubai and charged
    in his murder, Dubai police put Hero on the international wanted list
    Russia Adam Delimkhanov. The brother of the murdered Hero of Russia, Ruslan Yamadayev,
    also a Hero of Russia, previously killed in Moscow.
  27. 0
    27 July 2015 13: 54
    Two terrorists sit and discuss how to fight terrorism?!? Well it really is like bees versus honey. Similarly, our officials and deputies portray the fight against corruption. Kadyrov does not care about the interests of Russia, he keeps his money away from the country, most likely in the same Arabia and Switzerland.
  28. 0
    29 July 2015 00: 06
    It is not necessary for the Saudis to show the experience of fighting Russian terrorists. The Americans will write a brochure and teach terrorists how to fight Russian anti-terrorist units. They will immediately learn how our people fight terrorists and then form terrorist tactics. Like in Kiev on the Maidan. In the film about Crimea, they said what the Americans asked the Berkut people — how they deal with terrorists and the like. And then they taught the Maydanschikov. But the money from the Sadis in Russia, you need to invest.