Space Odyssey of Ukraine ends

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Space Odyssey of Ukraine endsHistory The legendary Yuzhmash, whose rockets were the guarantors of peace during the Cold War and an integral part of international space programs, is close to an inglorious end. There are no personnel, no orders, no money, not even water in the toilets. Worse, the future of all Ukrainian industry is reflected in the tragic fate of UMZ.

A year ago, employees of the state design bureau "Yuzhnoye" them. Yangel celebrated the 60 anniversary of the enterprise. In the congratulatory addresses on the occasion of the anniversary it was noted that during this time, in collaboration with the Southern Machine-Building Plant. Makarov, the design bureau specialists managed to create 13 combat missile systems, seven space missile complexes, more than 70 types of spacecraft, about 50 types of rocket engines and propulsion systems for various purposes, more than 150 new materials and technologies. In addition, more than 900 space launch launches were launched and more than 400 research and military satellites were launched into orbits.

This year, the parade of memorable dates would be logical to continue with the 20 anniversary of the creation of the international project Sea Launch, in which Ukraine was once represented by Yuzhnoye Design Bureau and Yuzhmash Production Association. However, there is nothing to celebrate. Due to the crisis in the Ukrainian-Russian relations, the project is “frozen” and is unlikely to be revived in its previous form. At least, it’s no longer talking about the further use of Ukrainian Zenit missiles for launching, and the Southern Machine-Building Plant that produced them is now on the verge of final liquidation.
Rockets and closets

As a matter of fact, without orders the enterprise has been idle since last year, and in January its employees were sent on leave at their own expense due to accumulated wage arrears. Forced downtime lasted until April. Then, after repayment of the debt and to the accompaniment of generous promises from the first persons of the state to fill up YuMZ with work, the workers returned to the workshops. But, apparently, not for long, because they have nothing to do there. And, judging by the latest events, the case will not be limited to simple idleness.

Vladimir Tkachenko, an assistant to the general director of the enterprise for general issues, told reporters that the factory has been shut off for more than two weeks. In this regard, it was necessary to stop work in foundries, in areas related to the forge and in places where metal hardening and cooling take place. For the same reason, the bathrooms were closed, depriving the staff of basic household amenities.

At the same time, rumors of a possible power outage, supported by recent power outages at pumping stations, are being spread. But the new wage arrears are no longer rumors, but a reality: after April, payments have stopped again. “They said that restructuring was expected, and from August they would cut staff by 30 – 40%. So far, the workers are not paid a salary, apparently expecting that the people themselves will quit, ”says the head of the independent trade union of Yuzhmash, Yevgeny Derkach.

Representatives of military registration and enlistment offices, men guarding the draft of the men right at the main entrance hall, have now become an additional incentive for voluntary dismissal. And they prefer to grab the employees of the design office. Either because they come to work later than the others, or because of their uselessness for curving production. In turn, the “deviators”, relying on the support of colleagues and even the leadership, stubbornly unwilling to part with the last cadres, keep all-round defense: they carry out a telephone alert about the danger and do not leave the factory territory before the “catchers” leave.

Fear factory


Dnepropetrovsk owes its unofficial title of the capital of the Soviet rocket production to the Korean War. It was she who forced the then leadership of the military-industrial complex headed by the Minister of Arms Dmitry Ustinov in 1950 to urgently convert the still unfinished Dnipropetrovsk automobile plant into a top-secret “mailbox No. 586”. In the same year, instead of trucks and dump trucks, it launched the production of the first Soviet combat missile P-1 (which was held as “vertical takeoff vehicle”), which Sergei Korolev and his assistants copied from the V-2 trophy. A little later, the plant begins to produce P-5M - the first rocket in the world capable of carrying a nuclear charge.
A few years later, a special design bureau OKB-586 (now Yuzhnoye Design Bureau) was created on the territory of the “plant number 586”. It is headed by Mikhail Yangel, a former deputy Korolev, who took up the development of a rocket on high-boiling fuel components, which allowed to keep the “product” on alert, that is, fueled with fuel, for a long time (more than a month).

In the 1959 year, after successful tests for the armament of the Soviet army, a single-stage medium-range ballistic missile P-12 was adopted. Four years later, its innovative for the time modification of the P-12U for the silo launcher takes up combat duty in the newly created strategic missile forces. A little earlier, the P-16 is created - the first two-stage intercontinental ballistic missile capable of “covering” the territory of the United States and thus depriving the main strategic opponent of the Soviet Union of the advantage of an unanswered strike.

By that time, the Dnepropetrovsk Machine-Building Plant was already fully focused on products developed by the Yangel team. As Secretary General Nikita Khrushchev told reporters fairly after visiting the company: “Our production of rockets has been put on the conveyor! Recently, I was at the same factory and saw how there are rockets coming out, like sausages from machine guns. ”

This result was made possible thanks to the well-coordinated work of the tandem in the person of the head of the OKB Yangel and his former chief engineer Alexander Makarov, who was appointed director of the plant in 1961. “It was they who created the model of a unified experimental design and production base, which to this day is an innovation in the sphere of production and design,” writes another ex-director of Yuzhmash, former President of Ukraine Leonid Kuchma.

The main joint work of Yangel and Makarov was R-36M (SS-18 Satan, according to NATO classification) - a missile system with a heavy-duty multipurpose intercontinental ballistic missile, which allowed the use of various types of combat equipment (head units), including those separated with individual targeting warheads , and implemented a strategy of guaranteed retaliation. The “Satan”, which had no analogues, with its autonomous control system and full ampulization of fuel systems after refueling (this allowed the rocket to remain in full combat readiness for a decade and a half), which became the main element of the USSR’s “missile shield”, in the beginning of 70 Americans, called "factory of fear" by YuMZ, urgently go to negotiations on nuclear missile disarmament.

One of the most sensational then novelties was the so-called mortar launch invented by Yangel, when the multi-ton colossus in its launch variant from the transport and launch container was first “fired” from TPK under pressure of powder batteries, and then its engine was started. This enabled designer Vladimir Utkin, who completed the project of “Satan” after the death of Mikhail Yangel in 1971, together with his brother Alexey later created the RT-23 UTHF “Molodets” (SS-24 Scalpel) - a combat railway missile complex, in the number of 12 trains with 36 launchers on alert in the Strategic Missile Forces of the USSR and Russia in 1987 – 1994 (all of them were decommissioned and disposed of under the terms of the START-2 agreement).

No less active, Yuzhmash, 80% of whose production in 1960 – 1980-s were military missiles, participated in space programs. The Zenit rocket created there as a modular part of the first-stage unit of the launch vehicle Energia was used in the project of the first (and, unfortunately, the last) Soviet reusable spacecraft Buran. And liquid Cyclone light launch vehicles or based on the P-12 and P-14 Cosmos and Intercosmos launched space vehicles, many of which (AUOS, Tselina or Typhoon series), into low near-earth orbit. ) Dnepropetrovsk specialists were created again. The side shops, which produced the tractor first under the “Belarus” brand (due to the secrecy of the enterprise), and then its own — YuMZ (totaling more than two million cars), as well as other peaceful “consumer goods” did not lag behind.
Space business

With the collapse of the Union, the glorious history of Yuzhmash, like many other giants of the military-industrial complex, could have ended overnight. Hundreds of combat missiles produced there annually were no longer needed by anyone — as, incidentally, tens of thousands of tractors. The majority of subcontractors turned out to be beyond new frontiers, and the state order changed the “wild market”. The situation was saved by the presidential election of 1994 of the year. The new head of state, Leonid Kuchma, did everything for the survival of the unfamiliar Yuzhmash, which was also one of the few flagships of the young Ukrainian economy.

The main theme for the plant and Yuzhnoye Design Bureau has since become commercial space. One of the first projects was the Sea Launch - the creation of a marine spaceport at the equator with the help of a floating platform, where there are the best conditions for launching (the Earth’s rotation speed can be used as efficiently as possible). Created in 1995, the Sea Launch Company consortium, in addition to Yuzhmash and Yuzhnoye Design Bureau, included the Boeing Commercial Space Company (the space subsidiary of the American aviation industry), the Russian RSC Energia and the Norwegian shipbuilding company Aker Kværner. Four years later, the first commercial launch was successfully carried out, and in just 15 years (until May 2014 of the year) 36 launches (of which 33 were successful) were made.

Shortly after the first launches of the Sea Launch, the Yuzhnoye design bureau had the idea of ​​its land analogue, originally called the Start from the Desert (later the more familiar Land Launch was agreed). It was a joint project of Russia, Ukraine and the United States on the use of the launch complex at the Baikonur cosmodrome to launch the upgraded Zenit-2SLB and Zenit-3SLB launch vehicles. In the course of this program, six successful launches of spacecraft were carried out from 2008 to 2013 year.
On the basis of the legendary Satan, a Dnepr launch vehicle was created, from 1999 to 2015, the year performed the 22 launch, with the help of which more than 140 spacecraft belonging to 20 states were launched into orbit. And already at the very end of Kuchma’s second presidential term (in 2003), Ukraine signed an agreement with Brazil on long-term cooperation to create the Cyclone-4 RSC for spacecraft launches at the Alcantara cosmodrome in Brazil.

Along the way, the Yugmash workers earned money on the maintenance and extension of the service life of the missiles that were in service with the Russian Strategic Missile Forces, “adapted” the Czech trolleybuses and trams to Ukrainian realities, and also mastered the production of wind turbines, food equipment and landing gear for the An-140, An -148 and An-158. This together gave a noticeable workload of production capacity and salaries enviable by the standards of Dnepropetrovsk.

The confidence of the workers of Yuzhmash in their own prosperous future and the five-year plan of Yushchenko’s rule, which tired them during their infrequent visits with tedious lectures about the Tripoli culture and the famine, did not shake. “The caravan is going, and the money is dripping,” they reasoned. Especially since the money was falling more and more tangibly - the Russian “defense industry”, revived in the second half of the 2000's, with its purchases began to awaken the memories of the blessed Soviet times to the factory workers. And when Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin, who visited Yuzhmash already under Yanukovich (at the end of 2013), started talking about creating a joint rocket and space corporation, the former happiness seemed very close.

To the ground


But February 2014 struck, and all the plans were covered with a yellow-blackish-white basin with a red-black tint. In early March last year, the plant was visited by the newly appointed governor Igor Kolomoisky. He walked around the shops with a worried look, signing a certain “memorandum of cooperation” with the General Director of Yuzhmash Sergey Voit. As a result of this excursion, orders at the plant did not increase, but from there they began to export metal from strategic reserves (approximately the same way, pipelines 600 thousand tons of technical oil were pumped out of pipelines controlled by the Kolomoisky state company Ukrnafta last year). At the same time, information appeared on the Web about the possible sale to third countries of the documentation on the Voyevoda BBBR produced in the Dnieper (the Soviet name for the famous Satan).

For some time the naive countrymen of Kolomoisky thought that everything would change. And, in principle, they were not mistaken. Here are just a change for the worse. Back in April of last year, Kuchma, who knew all the ins and outs of the survival of his native enterprise, warned: “We have too much tied up with Russia to refuse to cooperate with it. But, if we lose contracts with the Russian Federation, we need to give an alternative. In Europe, I do not see sales markets for Yuzhmash products. ”

Already in August, the Ukrainian Security Council decided to end military and scientific-technical cooperation with enterprises of the military-industrial complex of Russia. This extremely inspired patriots like the chairman of the Dnipropetrovsk Oblast Council of Entrepreneurs, Vladimir Don, who said: “Today, exports from this enterprise to Russia have decreased by 80%. This is a product that is associated with weapons. This is logical, but we cannot sell to our potential enemies. weaponfrom which will kill our soldiers, our soldiers, our citizens. It is necessary to apply a series of measures. The fallacy of the positions of the plant’s management lies in what they think: the state will help. No one will help. ”

The fact that the state really threw the industrial giant to its fate, the staff of the enterprise was convinced pretty soon. “As a result of a consistent reduction in the production of rocket and space technology, cash inflows have more than quadrupled, from 1 billion 907 million UAH in 2011 to 450 million UAH in 2014. In this case, under contracts with Russia, the reduction was more than 60 -fold - from 1 billion 719 million to 28 million UAH. Further production of the Zenit launch vehicle (Sea Launch and Land Launch projects) has been suspended. Renewal is questionable. Russia is reducing cooperation on other projects (Dnepr, the Federal Space Program). As a result of the loss of the main customer, at the end of 2014, the deficit of working capital amounted to about 700 million UAH. The company's debts on 01.01.2015 amount to about 640 million UAH, including wages, related payments and social payments - more than 140 million UAH, ”YuMZ website reported (after a short time, the information was deleted for some unknown reason).

President Petro Poroshenko, who appeared at the plant a month after his February stop, routinely promised both an order from the Ministry of Defense (“The defense order has a proposal for Yuzhmash. You can guess what kind of production nomenclature is in question”) and civilian (“I he said, an order for 45 million UAH for trolleybuses for Dnipropetrovsk and Dnipropetrovsk region will be offered "). In both cases, Poroshenko deceived. About the state order ("guess what kind of nomenclature") still can not hear anything, but with the trolleybuses of Dnepropetrovsk people they "rolled" completely shamelessly. 6 July Yuzhmash had to sign a contract for the supply of ten cars, but the auto company "Bogdan Motors", controlled by Oleg Svinarchuk (Poroshenko's business partner), suddenly filed a complaint because of the lack of necessary documents from the plant. After that, the Antimonopoly Committee hastily canceled the contract.

The affairs of the Dnepropetrovsk machine-building plant and in foreign markets are no less “successful”. Back in December, the American company Orbital Science Corporation, 2014, stopped cooperation with Yuzhmash due to the explosion of the Antares launch vehicle engine with the Cygnus transport ship. Against this background, the statement that Ukraine intends to transfer its tightly frozen Alcantaur space project from Brazil to the US looks even funnier.

“It was the only major investment project of Ukraine abroad, not only confirming our country as a leader in the aerospace industry, but also giving the prospect of loading and development of our enterprises for many years,” ex-Prime Minister Mykola Azarov wrote on his Facebook page. “At the command of their owners, they put an end to the most advanced industry of Ukraine - the aerospace industry,” he stated.

According to political analyst Andrei Zolotarev, the situation with Yuzhmash and Yuzhnoye Design Bureau is fraught for Ukraine with a loss of the status of the space power. “Bazaar” capitalism does not need space. He is interested not in the prospect, but in profit now and today, ”the expert believes, confident that in the process of reforms Ukraine will receive a new model of the economy, which will be inscribed in the Western market. The only successful option of such a "fit" is "total de-industrialization."

So the devastation, sung by Bulgakov, who was born in Kiev, is not really in the southern masseuses of the closet, but in the heads of those who, in full accordance with the words of the party hymn, the Communists, so hated by them, undertook to destroy the world they did not create and leave behind the chaos that they created perhaps not even the famous “Satan”.
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  1. +10
    25 July 2015 05: 48
    This is what you have to be ... to ruin such a production. We also had this in due time, there were only brick ruins left from the Altai Tractor (ATZ). But, a rocket is not a tractor.
    1. UFO
      +13
      25 July 2015 07: 20
      Quote: ivanych
      This is what you have to be ...,

      This is how to jump! what
      1. +14
        25 July 2015 08: 35
        "the tragic fate of YUMZ reflects the future of the entire Ukrainian industry."
        All the most interesting things in Ukraine are yet to come. You think people who do not understand this there. They understand it as well. Well, what should we do with this? Take away everyone who considers himself Russian, everyone to the last! And in no case "help" the rest! These territories should become what they were before. The bare steppe and the maximum agrarian zone and no more. We need to populate the territory of Siberia.
        1. +6
          25 July 2015 09: 45
          Quote: Observer2014
          Take all who consider themselves Russian, all to the last!

          I completely agree with you. But the Russians had to be taken from the 199s, after the collapse of the USSR. By the way, it would be nice to calculate how many people are ready to move to, say, Samara from Odessa, for example. And then they won’t be in a hurry to move from the Baltic
      2. +1
        26 July 2015 00: 37
        Do you think in vain that Svidomo so many jumped ropes broke?
    2. +4
      25 July 2015 08: 20
      The devastation came from the moment when they started to ride on the Maidan, the most annoying thing is that you can’t see the gap!
      1. +1
        25 July 2015 11: 42
        there is a clearance .... to the other world ..... and then to hell.
        Quote: 78bor1973
        The devastation came from the moment when they started to ride on the Maidan, the most annoying thing is that you can’t see the gap!
    3. +6
      25 July 2015 11: 10
      Quote: ivanych
      This is what you need to be ... to ruin such a production

      Americans and Europeans are removing another competitor from the path, despite the fact that they are now the power in Ukraine. Moreover, they just finished off Yuzhmash, thanks to independence for 23 years, the enterprise itself slowed down by 90 percent compared to the times of the USSR.
      But in Russia, ready-made working enterprises bought and cut into metal, which were just put into operation and nothing .......... And in the new Europe it is normal practice, where the RAF, Ikarus, Raba, Globus are now, who knows now EU Electronics From VEF, Radiotehnika
      1. 0
        25 July 2015 19: 03
        Quote: APASUS
        where is the Globus now

        Try to search in Auchan. Lies on a shelf, like 20 years ago
        1. +1
          25 July 2015 22: 31
          Quote: Pilat2009
          Quote: APASUS
          where is the Globus now

          Try to search in Auchan. Lies on a shelf, like 20 years ago

          Globus in Soviet times was a food corporation, to ensure incoming orders from the USSR, an association of 5 collective farms was created, the profitability of the enterprise reached a billion foreign rubles. After the collapse of the USSR, Globus became a company with 20 employees.
          There is a difference?
          By the way, this does not say at all that this is the Globus, and not the overbought name by the same Chinese who will write to you about how everything is grown on the ecologically clean lands of Germany, although local peasants hardly imagine where Germany is and where Globus was born
          1. 0
            26 July 2015 10: 30
            Quote: APASUS
            this is exactly that Globus

            To taste exactly that
    4. +2
      25 July 2015 11: 23
      Quote: ivanych
      This is what you have to be ... to ruin such a production. We also had this in due time, there were only brick ruins left from the Altai Tractor (ATZ). But, a rocket is not a tractor.


      So what? Laundry soap will be produced. Minimum production alterations (throwing machines and assemblies into a landfill and installing boilers), and selling products for the Kikapu cockatoo feathers in central Africa. And you - rockets, tractors ... fool
    5. +1
      25 July 2015 14: 43
      Enterprises such as Yuzhmash cannot be completely shut down. Then do not start.
    6. +2
      25 July 2015 14: 54
      Quote: ivanych
      This is what you have to be ... to ruin such a production.

      As they say ELEMENTARY, WATSON, more precisely peremoga
      Or maybe the reason is this?
      But in this production huge successes
    7. +1
      25 July 2015 18: 09
      and from tashselmash only the square remained
      1. +3
        25 July 2015 18: 55
        Quote: andrewkor
        and from tashselmash only the square remained

        Like with the aircraft factory there is not good am
        And svidomye for the aircraft carrier "Ulyanovsk" should be answered as for Sevastopol
        We must not forget!
  2. BAT
    +14
    25 July 2015 07: 47
    But on the censor, the Maydan dill cry and yell joyfully about the development of their economy and wait for the default in Russia. Yes, yes it is in Russia. Not on the outskirts, but in Russia. And they are doing well and the Americans, Canadians, Australians, Dutch, Swedes are lining up to invest in the ruins of the economy. At the same time, they are biting at the same time, who more to invest. I really laugh at censorship inadequacies.
    1. +2
      25 July 2015 14: 56
      Well, on the ua domain. and it doesn’t happen, I remember the combat report on the capture of the T-80 of the Russian army by destroying the driver’s drive from the SVD through the viewing gap in the VLD.
      1. +1
        25 July 2015 19: 17
        Quote: dakka-dakka
        Well, on the ua domain. and it doesn’t happen, I remember the combat report on the capture of the T-80 of the Russian army by destroying the driver’s drive from the SVD through the viewing gap in the VLD.

        So this is all human, or rather lyudina Pavuk. Here is a secret photo, as always from social networks, but everything is clear from the coloring
        Laugh laugh a photo from
        Spider-Man Spider-Man 2 Spider Kick Blade

        Dnepropetrovsk, Dnepropetrovsk region Posted: in 12: 41, 20 July 2015,
        The game was slept there
    2. +1
      25 July 2015 17: 26
      Quote: sichevik
      lining up to invest ruins in the economy. At the same time, they are biting at the same time, who more to invest. I really laugh at censorship inadequacies.

      I remember we went through this too, we got hamburgers with Coca-Cola from their investments, but whole industries and work also disappeared
    3. 0
      25 July 2015 19: 05
      Quote: sichevik
      And they are doing well and the Americans, Canadians, Australians, Dutch, Swedes are lining up to invest in the ruins of the economy.

      Dreaming is not harmful, but ... the collar is not very good, they’re used to it. Ask for more, they will send further
      2010 news and what ...
  3. +2
    25 July 2015 08: 19
    “Deviators”, relying on the support of colleagues and even the leadership, who stubbornly did not want to leave the last shots, hold a circular defense: they conduct a telephone alert about the danger and do not leave the factory territory before the “catchers” leave.
    Circus.
  4. +6
    25 July 2015 08: 36
    All delays ... whether !!! All that was inherited from the USSR ... they drank it and drank !!! Let the debiloids dig a ditch along the outskirts, there’s no other mind !!!
  5. +7
    25 July 2015 09: 37
    Quote: azbukin77
    All delays ... whether !!! Everything that was inherited from the USSR was delayed ... or drunk !!!

    This applies to all former republics of the Soviet Union.
    Having plundered and drunk everything that the USSR built for them, now they are here as migrant workers — like cockroaches, you’ll get the hell out!
    Is it time to tighten laws allowing the arrival of foreign labor? - Banderlogs will soon rush to work in Russia. All 40 million!
    And they won't leave here! And in smoking rooms and in kitchens they will continue to find fault with Russia, which "destroyed everything" for them ...
    1. 0
      25 July 2015 19: 49
      For a long time already haut! They roam in Russia to earn money and spit in our backs in "gratitude". If we wipe off, our face will spit too. The "mentality", however ...
  6. +1
    25 July 2015 09: 50
    Looking at them now, we recall the 90s, and it’s quite sad, especially despite the fact that after the 90s we ourselves remained from industry ...
  7. +5
    25 July 2015 10: 57
    Quote: 78bor1973
    The devastation came from the moment when they started to ride on the Maidan, the most annoying thing is that you can’t see the gap!

    Earlier. The fact that high-tech production would go down became clear after the collapse of the USSR. And this applies not only to Ukraine. They fluttered for a while, but everything always ends at some point. And now Ukraine has come to the point that no one needs Yuzhmash's products. They bent the prices for Zenits so that they became comparable to the prices for Proton, which is twice as heavy. The Sea Launch is idle now. But there are at least some options possible, already without the Ukrainian “Zeniths”. Ukraine has not even brought any of its missile projects to iron. Pictures only. Starting from "Borisfen" and ending with "Sapsan". So the odyssey, both space and rocket, is drawing to a close. There are flutters, but they rather resemble agony
  8. +2
    25 July 2015 11: 03
    YUZHMASH will be reborn only in one case, when Ukraine becomes part of RUSSIA. soldier
    1. -3
      25 July 2015 15: 03
      yeah, vAISTENu. South revive. South will raised again! So win!
    2. 0
      25 July 2015 18: 00
      There is nothing to revive there; high-tech production is qualified employees, modern equipment and intellectual property.

      At Yuzhmsh, the last employees fled, the equipment has not been modern like 20 years, and all intellectual property has already been sold ...

      And if you personally need old walls and a leaky roof, then I suggest restoring them to your personal ...
  9. +5
    25 July 2015 11: 11
    Quote: cerbuk6155
    YUZHMASH will be reborn only in one case, when Ukraine becomes part of RUSSIA.

    Will it be reborn? A quarter of a century without modernization of production, the production of solid fuel engines was destroyed. Staff ... Who among those who once "made rockets" remained in the ranks? And even then these are those who just came to Yuzhmash before the collapse ... Other industries involved in cooperation with Yuzhmash have been destroyed as well, or are on their way. So this is hardly necessary ...
  10. +8
    25 July 2015 11: 30
    Why go far. In Russia, the Saratov Aviation Plant "Combine" was also bankrupted in 2010! Recently. And 30000 people worked there! And they produced the well-known Yak-40 and Yak-42. And the military too. And orders from the Chinese were for 100 aircraft!
    1. +4
      25 July 2015 13: 15
      Quote: kuz363
      Why go far. In Russia, the Saratov Aviation Plant "Combine" was also bankrupted in 2010! Recently. And 30000 people worked there! And they produced the well-known Yak-40 and Yak-42. And the military too. And orders from the Chinese were for 100 aircraft!

      And my father worked at the "Combine" in 43/45. On a drilling jig. They did the Yak-1. 90% are the same guys born in 29/30.
  11. +3
    25 July 2015 12: 51
    It is not difficult to guess who this scientific, hazardous production of its kind could interfere with.
  12. +5
    25 July 2015 13: 58
    In addition to the article.
    The number of employees at Yuzhmash in Soviet times was estimated at about 50 thousand people.
    A whole university faculty (physical and technical) with an annual graduation of 300 people worked only at Yuzhmash.
    Dnepropetrovsk in Soviet times was a city closed to foreigners. There were not a single foreign student in the universities of the city.
  13. +2
    25 July 2015 14: 23
    I’m thinking about whether the documentation for the R-24 and R-36M went to China.
    1. -2
      25 July 2015 15: 13
      Why at one time did Soviet aircraft engines (and not only) suffer from resource and reliability? Materials Science! time will pass while China pulls up on this issue. Of course, on a disposable product, the resource is not terrible, but the women at the start are very disappointing
  14. +1
    25 July 2015 14: 45
    It would be nice to invite specialists and workers to move to Russia. Qualified personnel would be very useful. Maybe in this way we can stop the fall of "Protons"? drinks
  15. +3
    25 July 2015 14: 58
    Quote: dvg79
    I’m thinking about whether the documentation for the R-24 and R-36M went to China.

    Even if she left, what does it change? The engines were Russian there, speaking modern terminology

    Quote: Fagelov
    It would be nice to invite specialists and workers to move to Russia. Qualified personnel would be very useful. Maybe in this way we can stop the fall of "Protons"?

    I am afraid that it should have been done at least 15-20 years ago. Now there are no specialists, and qualified personnel have lost their qualifications. The fall of "Protons" can be stopped without the participation of foreign specialists. Just clean up production. Raise s / n to working Expensive their work.
    1. 0
      26 July 2015 21: 41
      Well amused:
      Quote: Old26
      ..R-36M ..
      .. The engines there were Russian


      Where do you get this nonsense? From your head?

      The R-36M complex was created by industry cooperation under the leadership of Yuzhnoye Design Bureau (Dnepropetrovsk city), chief designers M.K. Yangel (1969-1971) and V.F. Utkin (since 1971). The management system was developed by the Kharkov NPO Elektropribor. The chief designer of the control system is V. A. Uralov.
  16. -1
    25 July 2015 15: 45
    If they ruin him, but we don’t interfere, then we need this ?! Industrial base, the best people, hurt 100 years ahead - to collapse ?! Somehow it turns out not in the Soviet way.
    PS. Even Werner von (you know whom) tore to pieces when the missile industry was divided. But here, what - do not give a damn about everything, because we ourselves can in 300 years? People, minds, heads, directions, industries - what is this? For whom is this?
  17. +6
    25 July 2015 16: 40
    It all started with a hunchback. Conversion is her mother. Krupp began with night pots, and the first president of the USSR turned everything upside down. They will bury him, I will drink for joy, and I wish the devil a little more strength so that they would throw up the coal. And I'll see who will push what kind of speech.
  18. -4
    25 July 2015 19: 18
    Here you are scolding Ukrainians and are we better or something. Under Tsar Putin, too, to x. which sold out. In the Chita (then still) region, a steel mill was pulled to a brick and Tsar Putin did not say anything against it. And why, he is for Russia. We are friends with partners. The plant was founded by Peter the first and sold first by Vovan.
    1. +1
      25 July 2015 23: 11
      Quote: burmundia
      Here you are scolding Ukrainians and are we better or something. Under Tsar Putin, too, to x. which sold out. In the Chita (then still) region, a steel mill was pulled to a brick and Tsar Putin did not say anything against it. And why, he is for Russia. We are friends with partners. The plant was founded by Peter the first and sold first by Vovan.

      So I see that he is standing in a sheepskin coat and felt boots on the Chita market, he is selling a factory. Don’t be silly, ask your local authorities who they’ve planted! Just hurry up, it may turn out that the UK or the prosecutor’s office are ahead of you!
  19. +1
    25 July 2015 20: 06
    Quote: burmundia
    In the Chita region, a steel mill was pulled to a brick and nothing was king. The factory was founded by Peter the Great.

    Is the Petrovsk-Zabaykalsky Metallurgical Plant the same?

    - founded in 1789. Peter 1 34 years old was not already alive.
    - founded by Catherine the Second, really named in Peter's part - Petrovsky.
    - November 29, 1790 received the first cast iron from ore of the Balyaginsky deposit.

    Quote: Wiki
    In the war and post-war years, steelmaking capacities were expanded and workshops for the production of finished steel, cast iron and steel casting were introduced, which allowed to increase the total production compared to 1940 by 10,3 times in 1960 and 13,8 times in 1970. In the late 1970s, production was reduced., in 1990 exceeded the pre-war level only 11,5 times. The open-hearth workshop worked on imported cast iron and scrap metal. Lack of raw materials and materials led to a decrease in output: in 1996 63,9 thousand tons of steel were smelted and 53,8 thousand tons of rolled products were produced, in 1997 45,4 and 40,5 thousand tons, respectively.

    That is, the plant stupidly ate the field, from which, in fact, it worked. Even with the Union.

    To transport pig iron for open-hearth metal from where to Transbaikalia, so that the steel products obtained again go somewhere somewhere to transport it - it’s silly somehow ..

    Quote: Wiki
    After the plant stopped in July 1999, work in the open-hearth workshop resumed in 2001, during 5 months of which 16 thousand tons of steel were produced. Since June 2001, the company was stopped, in September 2002 it was declared bankrupt.

    That is - the plant died a natural death, oddly enough ..

    Quote: burmundia
    Tsar Putin did not say anything against. And why, he is for Russia. We are friends with partners

    I understand your accusatory pathos and your desire to hurt the "liberals", but in this case - you .. that .. said nonsense, during negative

    Quote: A. Raikin
    More careful, more thorough

    laughing
  20. 0
    25 July 2015 20: 52
    But February 2014 struck, and all plans were covered with a yellow-black basin with a red and black tint.

    it’s clearly noticed good
  21. 0
    25 July 2015 22: 15
    dogs canine end
  22. -1
    26 July 2015 16: 22
    Quote: burmundia
    Here you are scolding Ukrainians and are we better or something. Under Tsar Putin, too, to x. which sold out. In the Chita (then still) region, a steel mill was pulled to a brick and Tsar Putin did not say anything against it. And why, he is for Russia. We are friends with partners. The plant was founded by Peter the first and sold first by Vovan.

    Oh, another one drew, "Putinuhodist".
    The article is specifically about Ukraine, and about a specific enterprise !!!!
    It seems to be written in Russian.
  23. Oml
    0
    26 July 2015 16: 47
    Quote: burmundia
    Here you are scolding Ukrainians and are we better or something. Under Tsar Putin, too, to x. which sold out. In the Chita (then still) region, a steel mill was pulled to a brick and Tsar Putin did not say anything against it. And why, he is for Russia. We are friends with partners. The plant was founded by Peter the first and sold first by Vovan.


    What a "writer", probably a "well-wisher" of Russia. How a steel plant could have been founded by Peter the Great if Chita, even in 1725, was a settlement, in which only a few hundred people lived. And in 1693 on the site of the settlement of Chita there were only 6 houses. And after this chatter burmundia will be justified, like the dill that they dug up the Black Sea.
  24. 0
    26 July 2015 21: 26
    The story of the legendary Yuzhmash [..] is close to the inglorious end. There are no frames, no orders, no money, not even water in the toilets.


    I decided to check if this is yet another hatred;
    We go to the site of Yuzhmash http://www.yuzhmash.com/, select the language (RUS) and select the Press Center - News.
    It reads:
    -SUCCESSFULLY STARTING THE “DNEPR” ROCKET-CARRIER WITH THE SOUTH KOREAN SATELLITE
    - SUCCESSFUL START-UP OF VEGA ROCKET WITH UKRAINIAN ENGINE
    - Etc.
    this year's news.
    It seems the company is working. Maybe something is not right, maybe not everything is fine, but it works.
  25. 0
    28 July 2015 15: 09
    Quote: ivanych
    This is what you have to be ... to ruin such a production. We also had this in due time, there were only brick ruins left from the Altai Tractor (ATZ). But, a rocket is not a tractor.

    and the plant is no more ?? belay
  26. +1
    16 August 2015 14: 08
    Quote: Vohman
    It seems the company is working. Maybe something is not right, maybe not everything is fine, but it works.

    Do you seriously believe that 1 (one) launch of the Dnipro in March and 1 (one) launch of the European Vega in June (on which the Yuzhmash engines are installed) will feed the enterprise? He will not be fed by the press releases published from March to June, in which, apart from blah-blah-blah, contracts "do not shine" (and already the end of August Karl!).

    Launched "Dnepr" and "Vega engine" are already fulfilled contracts (and you always want to eat), but are there any new contracts?
    So (to paraphrase you): Everything is not so, not perfect, it does not work.
  27. 0
    18 August 2015 12: 54
    This article once again proves that Yuzhmash + Yuzhnoye KB is not some of the fruits of the Ukrainian genius, but enterprises created by the Russians and worked normally only in cooperation with Russian enterprises. In offline mode, they did not have and did not foresee any successful work. All the accumulated before was consumed.
  28. 0
    30 August 2015 22: 13
    my friend worked with Yangel. for a specialist in composite materials. transport packages for mbr and others, pipes for RPGs, composite filling of the T-72 armor and the cruiser "Kirov" and so on.
    Now a family business enterprise of specialists of 3 generations of a surname.
    Germans, yapis, pindy are bought and often give out for their own. but the Russian market is the main one: epoxy resins of dozens of recipes, gelcoats, protective and repair compositions for wood / steel / concrete, compositions for filled compositions for electrical engineering, casting compositions for floor / wall mixtures. compositions for the advertising business ... and so on. and so on ...
    only the founder of the direction under 500 copyright certificates.
    http://www.epital.ru
    no ads never if cho ...
  29. 0
    30 August 2015 22: 27
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    It all started with a hunchback. Conversion is her mother. Krupp started with night pots, and the first president of the USSR turned everything upside down. They will bury him, I will drink for joy, and I wish the devil a little more strength so that they would throw up the coal. And I'll see who will push what kind of speech.
    so the first, Boryusik, was already buried and a bunch of button accordions were torn to pieces in joy. Where were you at that time? :-)) aah, probably from the drink drunk on joys the memory has disappeared? :-))
  30. 0
    19 August 2017 14: 20
    Quote: siberalt
    Energy

    And why doesn’t anyone need it to start it, well, unless the pots and ropes are “PRODUCE”.

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